Why are roguelikes so fun /v/?
What are some good roguelikes?
Ive only ever played 2 roguelikes, elona and tome and i absolutely loves both.
NetHack, ToME (2.3.5 when it still had Middle-Earth setting), UnReal World, Dwarf Fortress adventure mode
ADOM is good
>>332059427
One Way heroics is pretty good
>>332059656
I have it in my steam library and i can't bring myself to play it, how good is it?
>>332059427
FTL
>>332059510
ive been wanting to play df for a while now but how do i cope with the shit graphics and no actual gui
>>332059427
I enjoy a lot of games which don't have great visuals, but holy fuck I'm sick of "it's a rogue-like so it has to look like it's from 1984" trope. I'd love to see a well made, highly polished roguelike that didn't make my fucking eyes bleed.
you shouldn't need anything more than nethack, honestly
>>332059427
UnReal World. It's also massively overlooked and more focused on survival than straight up dungeon crawling. Derpy LARP pictures included. I think it recently got a graphical overhaul on behalf of coming to Steam or something, but there's a free version on their site.
>>332059656
i have 15 hrs in it but it gets too repetitive
>>332059734
beat it several times already
>>332059695
For the less than a dolar it costs it's pretty fun
It doesn't really have a lot of depth but it has multiple party members that give different endings so it can be enjoyable for some hours but after that it gets boring
It has a expansion that supossedly adds a lot of content but I have not tried it yet
>>332059764
Good taste anon.
Unique game. Definitely worth a look, particularly if you've got a hard on for survival stuff.
>>332059845
is itcumfy?
>>332059936
Considering you're constantly racing against the clock, it depends.
>>332059764
looks promising but id like some MAGIC up in this shit
realistic setting is too boring
Swords of the Stars: the Pit. I really wish SF roguelikes weren't so rare.
>>332059845
The expansion adds a fuckton and makes a lot of little improvements.
>>332059936
Nah. Elona's the only comfy roguelike.
>>332059758
Mystery Dungeon series are as "AAA" as a roguelike gets.
>>332060105
Played Elona ages ago man,
Ivan was also nice since you could get a dog. Gonna go play videogames now
thanks /v/
>>332060064
looks too simplistic for my tastes
>>332060064
This game satisfied my crafting hard on
Engineer best class
>>332060152
You might have played Elona but I doubt you actually got anywhere in it.
Though given how fucking long it takes to get anywhere I could hardly blame someone for quitting.
>>332059427
A bit on the casual side, but I really liked Pixel Piracy
>>332059736
Adventure mode is fine, you just need to memorize the dozen keys needed to survive
Then you grab a graphics pack, because the otiginal tilesets isn't well proportioned, so you see your circle of view as an oval
>>332059427
Dungeon crawl stone soup is a real roguelike thats pretty accessible for beginners not like all these pretentious roguelites that are coming out recently.
Dungeon of the Endless is kind of a hybrid roguelike that's worth checking out.
>>332059427
>Be Brawler
>All this fucking mobility
>All these sustained stances
>Haymaker crits
>Maxed out Set Up, Counter Attack and Defensive Throw
>Flexible Combat and Irresistible Sun prodigies
>An unstoppable black hole of whirling fists and radiating fire.
ToME is bretty good.
>>332060546
i just gave up on my bulwark before making this thread
got slammed by 200 giants throwing boulders at me in daikara after opened that fucking room thinking i would be fine with 80armor
it was a mistake
what race/class/playstyle should i play next
>>332060546
>not being a skeleton brawler to embrace the purity of the fist
Special effects on gauntlets are casual as shit.
>>332060658
how to play a skeltal
he levels so slow
>>332060105
>Elona
>roguelike
Pick one. Elona is an RPG in the guise of a roguelike.
>>332060747
play infernodon't play inferno
>>332060747
This argument ended a long time ago bro. It's considered a roguelike.
It's fine if you don't enjoy it due to how different it is. People like different things after all.
>>332060635
I've found that Bulwark can wreck shit early on with some grinding and not give a fuck but towards the higher levels they get shit on EXTREMELY hard it's not even funny. It's really just a battle of how good you can keep your momentum.
I've been enjoying Cata DDA recently, I only discovered it last year but I put off playing it until now. Really hits that innawoods itch.
ADoM is the king of roguelikes
ToME is pretty good if you enjoy tooltips
[insert word]band games vary from awful to good
Stone Soup is okay
Ivan is fun
Toejam and Earl is totally tubular
roguelites are gay
>>332059427
There's an indie one that I found pretty good called RougeLight, where your only sources of light are arrows you shoot. I thought it was fun, until I ran out of arrowsand got stuck in a pithc black area with no enemies to kill myself with.
You can get it free here: https://managore.itch.io/roguelight
>>332060635
>>332061041
All of the melee classes start to have some problems when dealing with giant rooms of ranged death.
Gotta abuse the fuck out of teleports and/or speed increases
IVAN is fun, but you'll die in a lot of ways that don't make any fucking sense because the game has a strange sense of humor mixed in
>>332061107
>roguelites are gay
most of them, but there are exceptions
>>332061168
Yeah. The worst time I've ever had was in that one level, around 17, with all those teleporting elementals or something. Been years since I played but I remember how cancerous it was the first time I went there and died extremely quick.
>>332060485
People always talk about accessibility and roguelikes, but there is no such thing because it's not like they're excessively complicated or obtuse. You either have the mindset to lose everything with each death or you don't. Only accessibility factor would be having some kind of casual difficulty that gives you multiple lives or or something, which is not a real a roguelike experience.
Battle Brothers
You manage a group of mercenaries in a medieval low fantasy world
World map is procedually generated, as well as all characters events and quests
You take contracts, earn money to buy more men/equipment and keep on going until you die
DCSS is so fucking good after couple of patches.
>>332061436
last time i played it it doesnt have a real gui
does it have a real gui now?
>>332061519
I play text version. It takes few days to completely remember all required keys.
>>332061519
there is a graphical patch and i used that the a great extent. love that game
>>332061712
not really about the graphics but more about a gui
going through menus without gui feels just not right
Nuclear Throne.
don't ask questions just fuckingbuyit
>>332061949
This.
>>332061917
>going through menus without gui feels just not right
It's fast and efficient, which is very important in a game that requires you to repeat same actions thousands times.
>>332059427
>Make a great character
>Can't die to nuthin'
>Reach orc stronghold
>Die like a bitch
Every time
>>332061949
Fish can roll.
>>332062183
Unless you're a wizard or some shit you gotta fight dirty as fuck when tackling those.
>>332060658
>casual
Brawler is best classpretty sure it's not supposed to look this fucked up. Old save on newer version. couldn't be bothered to install old files.
>>332060734
The slower leveling isn't really a problem once yougit gud.
>>332061335
hahaha those motherfucking icons. WHY? DF looks better than that goofy shit
>>332062396
help how to not die to casters
>>332062469
>tfw cant git gud
the furthest ive ever been to is the orc strongholds
>>332062538
>>332062183
Teleports and hastes. Don't feel like you have to wipe out everyone at the area entrances when you come in either, most classes can't actually handle a straight-up fight there.
>>332059427
Play Deathstate.
It's a single-stick shooter, you auto-target the closest enemy so you just have to worry about dodging and your abilities.
A little heads up, the visuals can get a little taxxing on the eyes.
>>332062662
HOW TO HAVE TELEPORT AND HASTE WHEN I ALREADY HAVE REGEN, HEAL AND HEROIC
>>332062725
Get rid of one of your heals. Whether a second movement/teleport is better than heroic depends on the class.
Not having at least one movement/teleport is suicide. I prefer at least two unless I'm certain I'm strong enough to handle shit.
>>332059510
>ToME (2.3.5 when it still had Middle-Earth setting)
MY NIGGA!!
has anyone managed to get Albion to work on W7? dosbox refuses to do it
>>332062364
>>332062662
My best runs were a cornac solipsist and dwarf bulwark. And by that i mean the only ones to even reach lvl 20
Nobody in this thread mentions Dungeons of Dredmor? I know it's not as great as something like ToME, but it's still pretty damn good and well worth playing.
>>332062725
there are several items that grant teleportation like boots and torcs of psychoportation
keep an eye out and always hold onto them. Also note that there's a cooldown when you equip them, so plan ahead...
Brogue is the shit
Also, more roguelikes need to have indepth combat messages like Dwarf Fortress. The best part about that game is the combat but its locked behind all the tedium
>>332063002
barely even counts as a rogue-lite
Shiren the wanderer is a bit casual but pretty fun nonetheless.
>>332063071
u wot nigga.
It's a permadeath game with all classic mechanics and difficulty of a roguelike. It is absolutely one.
>>332063162
>difficulty
the only challenge is in staying awake as you steamroll through everything
Alphaman for silly post-apoc. It was the first RL i played.
GearHead is still one of my favorites because MECHS
caves of qud!!
>>332059427
got crit for 2700 by a steam gun wielding orc antimage last time I played this
>>332063212
Link your steam achievement page with the "Left For Dread" achiv completed then if it's so easy; don't be a pussy-ass nigga.
>>332063002
As someone who's played some near 400 hours of Dredmor, I should warn that one of the mods(Compleat Essential Skills or Bowiemancy) corrupts the save system, should someone happen to get the game and use them. Some of them are pretty rad, though! Like the Ace Attorney mod, which adds a special skillset based on the AA games as well as a Blue Lawyer Suit and Red Lawyer Suit pair of items.
However the game is not a super ultra mega pure roguelike and can rub people looking for that the wrong way.
>>332063370
unfinished as far i've seen, but haping up pretty good.
i suggest dungeon crawl stone soup. i think it's one of the most classic roguelikes. well developed, with different characters and difficulties, not so hard to pick up like many other.
Caves of Qud.
They created some seriously weird lore for that game.
>>332062538
Movement infusion. Rush. Spinning Backhand if you're a brawler. Becoming a sun.
>>332060658
Gotta have that extracategory point
http://pastebin.com/exGzfx2D
From >>>/vg/136310361 which is where you really should be looking for info.
>>332063002
>>332063469
opinion: it is extremely shit and below the level of shitty flash games.
litterally the only thing that kept me playing beyond the point i realized how crappy it was were the shitty shameful puns it has written on every skill.
i am not a guy who call shit on everything, even if i don't like it. for example i don't like many things about TOME and ADOM, but i would not never say they are pure shit or unworthy of being considered a decent roguelike like dredmor.
>>332059764
Played this game once and ended up with both legs broken somehow. Had to crawl around to look for food and ended up freezing to death. Honestly very fun experience, the game really kicks your ass and you can tell there was a lot of love put into it.
>>332060064
Striker higher than normal difficulty will break your balls anon
>>332062342
Like Kevin Costner
>>332059427
>>332059764
>That inconsistent perspective
>>332063727
> it's shit it's shit it's shit
Compelling.
>>332063976
dunno why but i lold
>>332060247
>>332060152
I remember having a great time with Elona Shooter and I think I have Elona somewhere on my hard drive, is it worth a play?
>>332067230
absolutely
go download the lastest elona+
>people preferring any of these roguelikes over stone soup
Sigmund weeps
>>332067346
Stone soup is garbage.
>>332067346
I like Brouge better, much more simple and to the point. Coming from POWDER its like the natural expansion of the minimalist style.
I know it's not entire related to roguelikes, but are some games with fleshed out complex crafting?
I want a roguelike where its a town, and beneath the town is a neverending dungeon.
Is there anything like that?
>>332067841
elona
>>332067763
Cataclysm: DDA has a good crafting system. Not too deep, but a ton of variety. The vehicle crafting system is the best though. You can pull individual parts from abandoned/wrecked vehicles and build your own.
>>332067841
Angband and various bandlikes.
>>332067841
Literally Angband
>>332060747
Play inferno then.
>>332059427
The Gearhead series. You get in a mech and pretty much do mech things. You can give it new weapons,upgrade it, trash it and make a new one,customize your own personal outside of mech weapons, be a suave shittalker, a doctor, get cyborg parts, it's all really fun and multifaceted.
I much prefer Gearhead 2 to 1 though despite how incomplete it is to 1 and I wish Hewitt would hurry up and get around to finishing itgoddammit.
Metroid is a pretty decent roguelike.
what exactly makes a game a roguelike game
>>332068948
>randomly generated content
>made by indie devs
that's pretty much it
>>332067841
Azure dreams on ps1
>>332068948
It's like Rogue.
>>332068948
If it's like rogue.
Although these days retards use it to mean anything with pixel graphics that is harder than Gone Home.
>>332069401
The fuck are you on about nigga, roguelikes are way older than your indie bullshit.
>>332068948
Roguelikes originally were clones of Rogue. Nowadays is means it's a tiled, randomly generated, turn-based dungeon crawler.
>>332061226
yea that city that gets overrun by lighting elementals is rough. Either that or the dimensional rift zone. Both are tough on early/mid game melee characters. You really have to abuse LoS and your speed cd's. It's really satisfying once you finally clear it though
Wazhack is good
>>332068824
>People get paid to write this shit
>>332061107
Any tips on getting into ADoM? I really want to try it, but it seems really daunting.
>>332068948
Turn based, tile based, procedurally generated game with perma death and RPG mechanics.
>>332069401
>>332069456
>>332069463
>>332069612
thanks for the information
>>332069838
It's more of a proper CRPG baked into a flaky roguelike crust.
Healers are by far the easiest class since they start with all the best skills.
>>332061949
i don't give my money to someone who hates white people.
>>332070375
thanks for the advice, i'll give it another shot!
>1000 hours+ on dcss
i dont regret it
COME WATCH ME FAIL HORRIBLY AT TOME
IM OP BTW
http://steamcommunity.com/broadcast/watch/76561197970551208/
pls tell me it works
>>332070817
You can post in /rlg/, and they'll probably give you helpful advice as you go along.
A handful of them have beaten ADOM including the ultra endings. Another guy successfully ascended an archmage.
>>332061335
i was excited to play that because people rumoured that it was based on The Black Company, but the devs said they didnt hear of it until after the game was made.
Time Stalkers for the Dreamcast
>>332059427
mastery through repetition
>>332062684
>auto-target
why?
>>332059427
rogue legacy is the best roguelike out there
Are there any roguelikes that don't look absolutely dogshit?
>>332074520
Rogue looked dogshit, therefore if a Roguelike looks good it's not a Roguelike.
>>332059734
I'm hoping this is bait.
>>332059736
By realizing graphics don't matter
>>332061436
>removing features every patch
>good
>>332067346
Babby's first rl
>>332074520
Almost all of them?
i love elona
theres also chocobo's dungeon if you want something different
>>332061335
It has potential but it isn't roguelike.
Also devs lack vision, skills or resources to truly make this game great.
No wonder they are Germans. Or Turks. Hard to say.
>>332075450
no?
The thing I hate about roguelikes like TOME and DCSS is the completely insane and nonsensical difficulty curve.
Normal games have a difficulty curve that is a relatively smooth upwards line, with a few bumps here and there.
The roguelikes have vast swathes of zero difficulty, as you easily plow through identical filler mobs in level after level. And the suddenly there are enormous spikes when you (many times unexpectedly) encounter a real enemy. The challenge isn't the actual game, it's staying focused while doing a mindless repetitive task, just in case a boss will show up.
No binding of isaac mention?
Sure, I know it is slapped in your face on the steam front page constantly, but there's no denying that its good.
Also, Darkest Dungeon, Risk of Rain, FTL, One way Heroics (with expansion) are all great.
And one that is just ridiculously fun and I see myself coming back to all the time: Nuclear Throne.
>>332059734
Thats a roguelite or a "roguelike-like"
>>332076114
Crypt of the Necrodancer is a real Roguelike thoughin Bard mode
>>332074247
It's not as big a deal as it sounds. There's a fuck-ton of enemies on every level but they all die pretty fast.
Nethack is bretty gud. Rogue survivor is quite good also, but the dev abandoned it
DCSS webtiles was pretty fun a couple of years ago. Don't know how they've changed it since then.
>>332076004
Sure mate, I know most of them are roguelites but I've seen both lite and like in this thread so why not mix it up a bit.
Also, many people who like roguelikes also end up liking many roguelites.
>>332076621
I don't know how long it's been going on but they've added some sort of team tournaments where 5 people can play together and their scores are added to try and get more points for e-peen
>>332059764
it's been on steam for a month now. one of the best roguelike there, no doubt.
>>332076280
You might wanna look into CDDA then.
>>332076621
Lots of new features, mon.
>>332076898
>I don't know how long it's been going on but they've added some sort of team tournaments where 5 people can play together and their scores are added to try and get more points for e-peen
Tourneys always had teams. It's not a big deal though. Just getting some completed games in is good enough.
>CTRL+F
>"Berlin Interpretation"
>0 Results
Look it up and stop arguing about what is or isn't a roguelike, geez.
>>332067841
tobal 2 quest mode
DoomRL is fun
>>332063002
it's ok
probably best entry elvel rougelike with actual UI and shit
I never beat it tho, like random skills roll too much
>>332063071
the fuck you talk about?
>>332059427
IVAN
>>332078309
my nigga
>>332078309
what is with this game and bananas
>>332075813
>DCSS
>Insane difficulty curve
DCSS is probably the fairest roguelike though
After the early game it's pretty much entirely skill dependent
I'll be without internet for quite some time and I'm looking for a roguelike to play until I get on land again. Which one is better start with: ToME or ADOM?
