The End Times
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Remember when video games were just about fun? When games were inspiring, fantastical, innovative, and didn't have any ulterior motives.
Now with the advent of social justice it seems like every game has an agenda to push, indie or not, and the industry as a whole is stagnating.
Are we coming upon the end times /v/?
Pic fucking related. (Where muh POC at tho)
>>331951009
Don't play Western games.
Problem fixed.
Don't be a goobergater.
Problem fixed.
this happens to every form of media. since gaming is the youngest form of media we are now witnessing its transformation into the social political realm.
>>331951210
But the Japs can only make RPGs, and not even that reliably anymore.
>>331951625
And what can DA WEST make?
Platformers?
>>331951541
This
Now almost every industry it's shit music.movies, tv series, cartoons etc. All are shit and gaming too but this it's just the beginnen,
>>331951680
Used to be kickass stuff like Unreal, Psychonauts, Doom, Starcraft, Baldur's Gate.
Now? ...walking simulators, maybe.
Remember when we thought indie games were going to save videogames from the big corporations?
I think things were pretty good in 2004, 2005, 2006...
AAA games were good, there were no hipsters, Forza and Halo playing with friends...
Today people are obsessed with 8-bit shit graphics and minimalinistic games
>>331951848
Now we've got the indie game market pushing their socio-political agenda and a stagnating AAA market hyperfocused on putting out yearly installments that cater to the lowest common denominator.
We're besieged on two fronts.
>>331951989
>Now we've got the indie game market pushing their socio-political agenda and a stagnating AAA market hyperfocused on putting out yearly installments that cater to the lowest common denominator.
Everything that hipsters and communists put their heads it turns into degeneracy
The game industry now is LGBT friendly and that's what is killing games.
10 years ago who would hire this hipster junkie worthless piece of shit?
Now they have to because of "MUH LGBT COMMUNITY"
I want those time back.
Here's a piece of advice:
Ignore SJW games, focus on games you like, do not buy indie hipster trash and enjoy video games again.
You guys love to argue about these kind of shit, and even if, yeah i admit, there's a serious case of cancerous SJW bullshit going on in the industry, don't tell me there isn't any enjoyable games coming out.
If you take some time and search you'll find good games and you'll enjoy vidya again, it's not as much a matter of agendas as it is a matter of you letting stupid shit keeping you from playing video games.
Just enjoy it guys, life is too short to stress yourself with this kind of shit.
(Sorry if my grammar is bad, im not a native english speaker)
>>331952151
>muh diversity
>muh wimmins
>muh lgbt
>muh transfolk
What comes next?
The grave?
>>331952273
Hopefully everyone one of these libtards get killed by Trump and we can be free to express ourselves again.
kys
>>331952273
Where the semitic stairs?
>>331952263
True, there are enjoyable games coming out, but t hey're slowly being replaced by muh lgbtdiversitywimminspoc SJW trash.
I feel like if we keep ignoring the problem and focusing on what we enjoy we'll be overrun before we know it.
Was it all a mistake?
We have to expel this parasitic people from the game industry
They must know they are not welcome by bringing their marxist agenda to the game community
>>331952060
>waaaaaaaaaa it's the evil feminist leftist nigger jew transexual SJWs!!!!!!!!
Fuck off to /pol/ nigger
>>331952539
He's fucking right though
>>331952383
Don't worry, it may look like SJW logic is flooding everything, but actually, people are getting tired of it, and not only in the video games sphere.
Im seeing more and more people getting out of the SJW phase and more and more normies getting tired of this bullshit.
People start to notice SJW shenanigans and are beginning to considers them like the retards they are.
I have a feeling this whole social justice hypocrisy will collapse soon
>>331952539
"It's not the SJW and their marxist/femminist agenda, Trust me"
I don't have a problem with diversity. I mean, if you're going to create and interesting game world, there should be different types of character.
I do however have a problem with bullying tactics used by a certain element of the video game world. If a game developer doesn't want diversity in their game, then that's up to them. It's literally no one else's business. There game will probably suffer for it, but it's not in your remit to bully them into feeling bad about the game they want to make.
I fucking hate it when these people are called liberals. They are not liberals in the slightest.
>>331952312
who do you think Trump will cater to, bunch of broke ass gamers that make up less than a % of US population, or conversative soccermoms n shit that want to ban bad language, violence n hip hop music n shit, n violent games aswell, go fuck ur self u dellusioned faggot
No, you're paranoid and probably just trying to start shir.
Don't get me wrong, there are some games that are a bit too preachy but it's the least of the industries problems.
The reason the actual standards for games have sunk is the industry trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator and using unethical business practices while buying off the gaming press.
The pink haired crybabies who are working on some flesh in the pan indie games are fairly irrelevant in the larger scheme of things.
>>331952653
>I don't have a problem with diversity. I mean, if you're going to create and interesting game world, there should be different types of character.
Diversity means: give LGBT and gay rights to everybody and shut up your mouth your white male
Why are Jews in the USA overwhelmingly liberal?
>>331952681
This
I don't understand gamers voting for Trump, don't you guys realize that in his eyes you are as parasitic to america than migrants ?
>>331952782
Hillary will give free tax for LGBT friendly companies
I DON'T SEE WHY NOT VOTE FOR TRUMP
>>331951009
Protip: the image doesn't show the males, but they expanded from a hundred workers to thousands.
>>331952151
>Her tattoos
Every single time. Makes you wonder if the whole GG campaign against her was just created by some snooty Nintendo exec.
>>331951989
>Now we've got the indie game market pushing their socio-political agenda
such as?
I'm playing Android Assault Cactus, Grimrock, Stardew Valley, Time SHock Pinball, Xenonauts, and Underrail right now.
Play some games, ignore mainstream media/games and stop bitching on /v/
Sjws make up a small minority but they just make themselves stand out by being really loud and annoying
I am currently enjoying vita/3ds, looking foward to persona 5, kirby robobot and considering getting a ps4 in the future for ratchet and clank and FF
>>331952883
I bet the negro Reggie hired her so she could rape small kids without getting fired.
>>331952060
>The game industry now is LGBT friendly and that's what is killing games.
every day we move further from God's light
I'm sure AAA developers are rubbing their hands with glee as everyone loses their shit over those darn SJWs while they release half finished games for $60.
SJWs are the best thing that ever happened for corrupt video game companies.
>>331952892
Thank you for giving money to SJW and communist hipsters
AAA company: Let's do a kickass game that makes fun of women
Marketing department: Let's not, it will get poor sales and probably lawsuit because it's not LGBT friendly
OY VEY
OY VEY
>OY VEY
>OY VEY
>OY VEY
>OY VEY
>OY VEY
>OY VEY
>MUH SJWs
>MUH PATRIARCHY
Fuck both sides of this shit is annoying as fuck. Play someVIDEO GAMES
2007 : AC devs
2015: Woman's day pic
/v/ being their habitual mafia hat faggots
>>331953241
Why should there even be a "Woman's day"?
What, you're a special snowflake because you're a stronk and independent wymyn working in a misogynist industry?
Get bent.
>>331953042
What has communism anything to do with SJWs? I swear, the soviet boogeyman seems like it's still going strong as fuck in american minds after all these years, you have to link it to anything you dislike, from feminists to muslims.
>>331953024
some people just don't give a shit and buy every new game and play casually
Hype also plays a big part, fallout 4, destiny for example
EA do seem to use LBGT support as a scapegoat though.
>>331953342
Wow one day of the year where we are asked to celebrate women is so hard.
>>331953485
>we are asked to celebrate women
I celebrate women every day with masturbation.
>>331951009
Video games were never fun.
>>331951848
I don't remember ever thinking that.
Lowering the bar of entry will allow a lot of fresh talent to come in and make something good. It also opens the floodgates to an ocean of shit. One doesn't have to look very far through Steam Greenlight to see this.That Digital Homicide suit against Jim Sterling though. I can't wait to see what comes of that. Hopefully Sterling crushes them and scares off some of the bad indies that will just shit up the place more
>>331953556
this t b h
>>331953485
also what the fuck? that's sexist as shit? I don't want a fucking men's day because I don't need validation for being borne with a cock and balls between my legs, why the fuck should women get praise for having a cunt?
this shit's what's wrong with society, narcissism throughout
maybe I'm just 'ignant but I just don't see this apparently massive influx of agenda-driven games you're talking about
I mean sure, you have a few more titles with some sort of 'progressive' message being released, but the vast majority of games out recently have no real "agenda" to them at all
>>331953778
2015 also had a lot of releases that were outright a slap in the face of social justice
>>331953778
well, you're half right, it's not the sjw boogieman that /v/ rant about but the agenda is to dumb everything down to broaden commercialization.
And yes, that does mean they're dumbing down the medium for women. And no that's not sexist because facts aren't sexist.
The only pay off will be if the generation of girls that play games actually do it because they enjoy them and become patrician enough that the bar raises again, I had a girlfriend that had played games for as long as I had and she was /v/ incarnate, just with pussy and a killer set of tits
>>331951625
Then don't play anything nigger. Go outside and socialize.
>>331951009
The picture was taken on a "woman's day"
Do some research anal bananal
>>331954007
They'll tank imho. Not enough women will be interested in playing video games on PCs and consoles like the nerdy boys xDDDD do. But there's a market for them in facebook and mobile games
>>331953485
I celebrate people who have done things, not mindlessly celebrating things like gender or race.
>>331951009
There's enough /vr/ stuff to keep me occupied forever, I'm content with that
>>331953485
>Stronk independent womyn don't need no man
>Validate me because I'm a woman
Pick one
>>331951009
>implying jade's game wasn't the best thing ever
>>331951009
Here's the thing
Do not but SJW games. Sales speak louder than words.
>>331952616
This. It's not just about the net, but I see that in the people around. I have one or two friends that were full sjw a year or two and right now they don't even talk about that, they are ashamed of the whole situation.
We think it is getting bigger because it is a political movement, and as anything around politics, we see the effect years after it has happened, and in one or two years we will just see some remnants.
We may think it hasn't gone away because there will ALWAYS be a vocal minority that won't shut up, but that happens in any side.
t b h you guys cant name even 5 "SJW" games that arent already seen as a joke
This war is illusory
>>331951905
You realize that you were just a normie pleb in 2004, those games are all terrible.
>>331954780
Inquisition is the most succesful and even that kinda tanked
>>331954576
>>331953746
The point is, whether you agree it's the case or not, that important historical women are often ignored by mainstream history.
It's not about celebrating people for their genitalia.
The point of Women's Day is to highlight this fact and bring more attention to the contributions women have made to society, science, arts and culture.
Whether you agree with it or not, it's literally one day of the year. Get over it.
>>331951009
Going pretty far back, there were a couple of schools of video game makers. There were people jumping on the bandwagon, trying to push one out and hoping it would be a success. There were people who liked video games and learned how to make them and made games they wanted to play. There was also the guys who were forced into making them but didn't have any interest.
I prefer the ones by people who want to play their games, like Fallout New Vegas. They knew how to say "no", that they knew better than their players and women who thought the game would be better if they did ________.
>leftist act like absolute shitbirds
>double down in defending undefendable Muslims every time they blow the shit out of somebody's loved ones
>try to police everyone's words and thoughts
>cannot possibly fathom how Trump is pounding them
It never ceases to amuse me
>>331953430
Yes but instead of people getting angry at companies for abusing hype and casuals, they decide to get mad at twitter enthusiasts no one outside the internet has herd of.
>>331954732
This. Jade's game made me cum buc-- er, have a lot of fun.
>>331954907
>Whether you agree with it or not, it's literally one day of the year. Get over it.
Not in my country.
>>331951009
Remember when you didn't have to fill your corridors with HR and marketing to pretend you have diversity?
>>331955009
Good for you. Go trade your daughter for some goats if that makes you feel better.
>>331954907
>The point is, whether you agree it's the case or not, that important historical women are often ignored by mainstream history
no they're not, there's just not nearly as many female historical figures as men, granted that's because in the past women were genuinely pressed and it was a real struggle to achieve, but now they have an opportunity to become great women themselves
>Whether you agree with it or not, it's literally one day of the year. Get over it.
I honestly couldn't give less of a fuck but if some woman or white knight like you tries forcing this shit down my throat telling me hat women deserve this shit you bet your ass I'll call you out on being retarded
fucking millennials
>Tfw you are not a real gamer unless you have rainbowhair and ebin dank meme shirt and huge glassess
Fucking normies
I guarantee not a single woman in that bottom pic is involved in coding, music, art or anything related to making videogames. They're all in HR, social media or community management.
>>331951009
Fuck off back to your containment board goober
What do you guys even mean by "SJW game"?
I would agree that for example Gone Home is an SJW game since LGBT issues are the central theme in the game, but just because a game has some cliche strong woman character or a gay couple or whatever doesn't mean it's trying to shove some agenda down your throat.
Some people here are ridiculously paranoid, seeing SJWs everywhere just like SJWs see oppression and patriarchy everywhere.
>>331954907
If their contributions can't speak for themselves then they're obviously not very noteworthy. This is like telling a 2 year old they did a good job just for the sake of telling them they did a good job. It's retarded.
>>331955263
inquisition had an agenda in it
other than that I cant think of anything
>>331951418
I don't think you need to be a GG to agree with op, the industry seems to be pandering to the social justice warriors, I remember in the 90s when companies went out of their way to piss of the "squares" actually it was a marketing practice.
>>331955281
We now literally give kids participation trophy's when they lose in competitions or sports.
>>331951009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InS3Jjtpks4
>>331952356
holy shit the density of epic memes in this image could power 9gag for decades
>>331955358
Bioware is not "the industry"
If anything the industry caters to retarded 15 year old boys more than any SJW, thats a fact thats backed by over 40 years of evidence.
>>331955263
Bioware literally markets their games by highlighting how progressive and inclusive they are.
>>331955419
Sure but at the end of the day they're still kids. This is adults recieving the very same "participation trophy" which is frankly just embarassing.
>>331955419
Who's we?
>conservative faggots
SJW! SJWWWW!!! FEMINIST KIKE JEW SHILLL!!
>sjw faggots
HITLER!! LITERALLLLYY HITLER!!! FACIST RACIST!!!
fuck both of you faggots
>>331955473
Its true
>witcher 3
>gta 5 re-release
>mgsv
>fallout 4
All in the same year, all largely targeting men
>>331955506
The west.
>>331954998
maybe if we're talking about censorship.
Even the normies gave a fuck you to EA for the simcity fuckup
Square enix got a huge backlash when they tried "augmenting" our pre-orders.
And ubisoft have been shitting out some great pc ports, complaints all over steam but obviously not enough for them to care.
There's always someone complaining about sjws and overblowing the situation though and I don't think there's any use in complaining about companies.
A huge majority of casuals will keep buying their games
>>331955325
Never played it but what was the agenda in that? Was it a main story thing or was it that companion sidequest about "Og feel like woman, but Og's race are cisgendered scum"?
>>331955090
>fucking millenials
>Millennials (also known as the Millennial Generation[1] or Generation Y) are the demographic cohort following Generation X. There are no precise dates for when the generation starts and ends; most researchers and commentators use birth years ranging from the early 1980s to around 2000.
So I take it you're 40 years old?
>>331955625
I didn't play it either just going by what /v/ told me ;3
Apparently they went full retard with the gay characters trying to pander to homos but they didn't write them well and it backfired
>>331955523
because that's who buys them,and its kinda of insulting making "girl" friendly games for females who grew up on what boys grew up on,
>>331955191
Yeah because a all those things are not at all important for a company to be successful?
Dont be dumb my friend, every game or piece of content has political implications, intentional or not.The diference now is that there is more people aware of it.
Dont be a baby who refuse to enjoy things trough critical thinking.
>>331955764
all the heavy lifting you mean
>>331955764
those are all made up positions just to make women have something to do since feminism opened up the floodgates, women of course still dont go into jobs with demanding physical labor, so this is the best they can come up with
>>331951009
Uh, so that's why vidya lost its soul. Women.
Makes sense.
>>331951009
Fuck off. We've been saying the industry has been stagnating for years. First it was WW2 shooters, then it was Halo clones, then CoD clones and now games with a political message.
>>331955637
Actually, anon, Gen X mostly encompasses people born in the 80s, with Millenials (having grown up on the cusp of the new millenia) born in the 90s.
>>331951009
Eh, alot of these LGBT games that pander are selling g poorly and developers are getting their asses kicked back in line.
It's a fad, without the market to support it these new social justice devs will migrate after afew failures, which is the ultimate irony.
>>331955818
This pretty much. Whether you like it or not, all art is born of the social, cultural, artistic and critical environment it was created in.
You could write a critical essay bringing in politics etc. on Doom or Pong. There was no golden era where games were innocent and free of politics.
>>331951009
As markets become oversaturated
You need a purpose to buy something that is just good and not great
Making it stand for something gives it purpose in a community
Its just capitalism mixed with idiots that think they can change the world
>>331955907
The first two are just video games, the last isn't related to video games at all. Notice how that's the problem?
>>331955924
Pretty much this, SJWs dont buy games
>>331951787
There is still great games being released, although not as reliably and mostly indie games.
Factorio recently got released on steam and it has become the best reviewed game of steam.
They don't try to appeal to everyone.
>>331955856
What are you talking about? Having a press or media team has always been part of business, it's just that nowadays social media exists.
We need more Eastern European/Russian devs like CDPR. Best of both worlds: less greedy, mostly Western styled, and completely uncucked by "muh diversity" or "muh sexism". It even seems Japanese devs are starting to think there's a problem with the way they do things because of the vocal minority blue haired tumblrinas spouting shit on social media.
>>331955963
Are you seriously suggesting that their is no political message in WW2 shooters or military shooters in general?
>>331955951
>>331956019
>>331956113
trumpcuck propaganda?
>>331956171
rockstar/bethesda dont give a single fuck about sjws
as their games continue being succesful everyone else will fall back in line
>>331955434
I'M A GOOFY GOOBER
>>331956171
>It even seems Japanese devs are starting to think there's a problem with the way they do things because of the vocal minority blue haired tumblrinas spouting shit on social media.
You have a point, but that doesn't mean they will change their games, they simply just wont release them in the west, like DOAX3.
>>331956194
Are they advertised as a political message or statement? No, they're not. While the SJW games make it very clear and obvious they delibirately shoved their own agenda in to the game. If that's what people want to do fair enough, but don't shove it in my fucking face all the time because I really don't give a shit.
>>331951009
Check out Superbad in the middle
A good trick is to distract yourself from gaming for a couple of years. I killed a couple of years traveling with minimal game time. Now I just don't jump ahead in releases and enjoy games thoroughly at minimal expense. It's even better if after not playing games for such an extended period that you start out on much older games than you're familiar with, and work your way back up the graphics food chain. Now I always have a large backlog, and as long as one decent game comes out every few years going forward I'll be set for life.
>>331951009
Just play eastern games then. Don't like them? Oh, well. I'm sorry you realize your normie games are trash.
Find a different hobby.
>>331951009
>implying this hasn't been happening since forever
One out of four Black Mesa scientists were black.
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>>331956376
Guess who controls localization of those games? Sjws, and no, learning an entire fucking language is not the solution to getting around shitty localizations.
>>331956420
But not a inexplicably young woman who spouts pop culture references, and an older black lesbian.
>>331956264
So something has to be advertised as having a political message for there to be one? Do you really need to be told that a game where you play as glorious America fighting for freedom has a political message in it?
If anything the military shooters are the ones being disingenuous because they're marketed as just 'fun' for people when they in fact spread a distinct political message and worldview.
This lack of critical thinking apparent is why video games and gamers aren't taken seriously.
Guys there is still place for hope.
>>331956474
FUCK YOU BITCH I CAN LEARN NIHONGO ON MY OWN I DON'T NEED YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
>>331956113
>tfw into domination
>tfw real "aggressive feminists" can't dom for shit, can't take control of a relationship by themselves and instead whine loudly until their demands are met
>tfw the only good female dom I've met was misogynistic but also crazy as fuck(in the bad way)
I wish I was gay.
>>331956248
Rockstar got dragged through shit for 'Hot Coffee'. They always had to walk a fine line in the past. Today they really could go farther but don't, it's become force of habit.
Many of you don't remember or weren't alive during the Senate hearings on Mortal Kombat.
Sure, controversy and headlines helped sales to an extent, but not getting banned from stores and having to attend hearings.
>>331952782
But Video gamers are parasites.
Come on.
>>331951009
Woah Anon are you some kind of fucking xenophobic misogynist???
Video games aren't about enjoying yourself any more! Why would you want to play a game with fun mechanics, good graphics and a decent story when you could be playing a retro-indie platformer that really makes you think about your approach to gay rights!
>>331956562
You're an idiot, the only lack of critical thinking is when it's done like the SJW method of literally spelling it out for you what's right or wrong. So in effect you just took a dump all over your own argument.
>>331955263
I think Gone Home also fails to highlight how ridiculously bad the decisions of the sister who ran away to be gay were. A high school aged kid who may be a Freshman or a Sophomore dropping out of school to pursue a young love? If this story were ANYTHING other than a gay romance, it would be a highly cautionary tale and she'd wind up either in a dead end job she hated or just outright dead. But, nope, it's the gays, so her decisions are the bestest and sunshine and rainbows 4ever yaaaay.
>>331956604
We need more based mother fuckers like this
>>331956604
>oh please mr. american
brutal
>>331956618
That was conservative soccer moms, not SJWs
the problem was sexual content, not misogyny or whatever
>>331956618
Have you played GTA5 though? Trevor literally tells a bunch of feminists to fuck off and there's jabs at europe on radio channels plus who knows how many less than pleasing jokes for the social fighters
Who gives a fuck, the liberal feminist cancer will kill itself given time. I'm frankly surprised they know how to use the internet at this point.
>>331956604
Funny thing is I don't know if Grand Galactic Jay literally just doesn't know his geography or if he's being thick-headed on purpose.
>>331956657
I didn't ever say I agree with SJWs. But to deny the political message in games just because it doesn't fit your view that games only became political because of SJWs is stupid.
>>331956779
that cant be real
>>331953342
Nigga I don't think you don't understand
Women's day has been a thing for years
It's one of those holidays that aren't holidays or whatever
Like Mother's day
Labor Day
St. Patrick's Day
>>331956840
No, I said I don't want it shoved in my face all the time because I don't give a shit. You're seriously weak-willed if playing a game of CoD suddenly makes you sympathetic towards the US. I'm not that detached from reality.
>>331956604
The only reason this didn't go horribly bad is that the guys isn't American. If he were, the court of public opinion would have destroyed his life.
Also, I fucking love that the immediate kneejerk reaction of "I'm mad at this dude on the Internet for wrongthink" is to get him fucking fired from his job. Holy Hell, people.
>>331956906
white guilt anon, they gotta pay it
>>331956710
And we also should fing the way to protect current studios from lefiests influence.
>>331956906
It's real, they don't want white, swedish men to help them because it would be racist if the attacker was an immigrant.
>>331952782
>immigrants
>parasitic
This is hilarious. Go to any unemployment office and offer any job an immigrant is doing to those amazing non-parasitic "Americans". See how many are willing to do those jobs.
>>331956604
the absolute madman
women please stop making games :(((
>>331956906
sweden has collectively lost its fucking mind. it's kinda what happens when you have it too good and get bored.
>>331951009
The /v/ party line is that games were never fun and always super serial business
>>331956998
YOU HAVE TO GO BACK
>>331956745
Explicit sex scenes though? Beyond a few glances.
>>331954030
>Go outside and socialize
>Look at a woman wrong or refuse her something
>Rape claims filed against you and your life is ruined even if you were acquitted
>>331951009
Wait, you mean games can have messages just like books, music, and movies?
It's almost like you guys got what you always wanted. It's almost like video games are a form of art.
>>331956604
He's a cool guy and in the right, but that whole #based just comes off as annoying.
>>331956959
>>331956997
>>331957040
but I thought immigrants and swedish people were always segregated in sweden, what the fuck happened?
>>331957078
Dont think so, they did have the schlong in one of the GTA4 trilogy games but I cant remember which
Does an explicit torture scene count?
Either way rockstar is still holding their ground
>>331953342
Look I'm against the Gen Zer fags by all means, but you are fucking stupid.
>Fathers Day
>>331956745
>Trevor literally tells a bunch of feminists to fuck off
wooaahhh
>>331951989
Huh, that sounds almost exactly like the film industry, doesn't it?
>>331957132
that's one based motherfucker
>czech republic
AHhahahahah literally immune to the twitter war brigade too !
Based eastern europeans fighting the good fight
>>331957219
>Mother's Day
>>331957173
it's sweden don't try to understand them
>>331956940
I agree with you in that things should not be shoved in our faces and that there should be a mature approach to things like diversity. I want to like a black character because they are interesting, well designed and well written, not because they are black and I'm looking for a gold star for liking a minority.
>>331957265
>Based eastern europeans fighting the good fight
Isn't Czechia Central Europe?
>>331957173
>they did have the schlong in one of the GTA4 trilogy
truly amazing
Serious question: why do you guys spend so much time and effort hating video games? It's a lot harder to actively look for things to dislike instead of just playing a game and enjoying it. Do you know why you enjoyed games more "back in the day"? It's not because everything was magically better 10 - 20 years ago, it's because you hadn't developed cynical tendencies and didn't know to look for things you dislike. You just played games, and you enjoyed them. The crazy thing is, it can still work that way.
>>331955963
No because it's simply a trend in video games. Once it stagnates, as it always does, a game will come along that everyone will hail as the "new, fresh idea" when it comes to video games and that will be the next trend.
>>331957346
I dont know I'm american
>>331951009
>didn't have any ulterior motives
Pure ideology! *sniffs* tugs shirt*
>>331957052
deporting 11 million people wont "open up jobs" it'll just shut down possible jobs for americans
if you're getting cucked out of your job by spics who cant speak english then its your own fault
>>331951009
cry moar bitch nigga
>all these doom and gloom posters
I dont even buy indie or aaa crap and im still satisfied with gaming. You guys need to stop being babies.
>>331951009
>paying for denvuo crap
>paying for sjw tumblr tier western trash
fuck that i just support the smaller devs who are all male teams
Sure most of the good stuff is stuck in early access but if you look around there is some good games out there even if the final releases are still years away its so much better than buying the latest AAA crap only for it to be abandoned in 1-2 years when the sequel/reboot comes around leaving the community fractured and never having mod support or decent mp
>Average real early access game 15-30usd
>average AAA/inde shite 40-80usd+
NOPE
>>331957368
No, it was because games back then were genuinely better.
t. man who played Homeworld for the first time two years ago and was absolutely blown away. Now fuck off to whatever Tumblresque hugbos you crawled out of with your psychoanalysis.
>>331957346
Nominally in that they have some of the Central Europe's work ethics, but also retain some of their own more savage edge.
>>331952203
Arkane is still around and making vidya gaems broheim
>>331957437
I thought illegals weren't registered workers
>>331956604
If he was American he would've been brought to the court for saying Poland had no niggers.
>>331957509
M-more
>>331957524
but they're taking all of those american jobs!
thats why they HAVE TO GO BACK!
>>331957437
>deporting 11 million people wont "open up jobs" it'll just shut down possible jobs for americans
What fucked up logic is that? Yes it will because someone else will have to take them up. Problem is Americans don't want those jobs because mowing lawns is beneath them or something.
Just don't play triple A games or shitty indie games
Just play niche games
>>331957561
No they have to go back because having such a large illegal element can be an issue
They can always apply for a work visa and return under lawful terms
>>331957546
>saying Poland had no niggers.
But there were no niggers in medieval Poland and the whole Eastern Europe.
>>331957601
>Problem is Americans don't want those jobs because mowing lawns is beneath them or something.
Yes.
Mexicans would be filling all these spots either way, they'd just be registered and taxed
Both /pol/ and leftists are too stupid to understand trump, I dunno why
>>331957368
Because most modern AAA vidya is CRAP
Just like most mainstream media
>TV
>Youtube
>Movies
>News
ect.
Mainstream crap wasnt as bad 10-50 years about but lately they are just pumping out the most abbhorent shite we have ever seen in the history of media since the goddamn invention of the broadcast radio
Its literally forced bluepill devoid of talent especially videogames since most of the work is already done and prepackaged these days
>Unreal Engine 4
>???
>>331957604
>Just play niche games
We used to call those normal, medium budget games. Shame industry has done its damn best to stomp out the these middle-sized studios over the last generation or so, and split the industry into AAA and indie. It's kinda getting better now.
>>331957623
>>331957601
many many business have A LOT of immigrants working, they wont be able to fill positions fast enough, murricans dont want the jobs and dumb illegals who cant speak english take it, americans are too lazy for them and blame everyone else as usual
>>331957546
>brought to the court
>for stating the truth
Nah I doubt it, at most he'd get fired if he wasn't already his own boss or forced into a public apology because he is.
Either way its a sad situation when historical accuracy has to be supressed in the name of I dont even know what, just some retarded fucking idea
>>331957280
Right, you don't have a fucking point. There's a day for both. It isn't a gender celebration day dipshit, its a day to honor your parents.
>>331956998
Well if I was living 9 to a house of unrelated people like my neighbors do and I had a cost of living of 200 a month with no intention of staying here long term, I could work for 8 an hour operating a leafblower.
The immigration issue is about wages not people, the jobs would be done by Americans if they supported an American lifestyle. Corporate world is addicted to cheap labor. You want to fix the problem start jailing executives under RICO statues for conspiracy to bypass labor laws regarding illegal immigrants. Wages would rise, immigrants would self deport, prices would go up slightly but Americans would have more money to spend as well.
Tl;dr You would still get your big Mac for 25 cents more but an American would be making it.
>>331957664
facts are a racist social construct put in place by the patriarchy to hold minorities and women back, check your privilege
we wuz kangs n sheit while whites were kkkavemen
>mostly play jap games these days with some old western PC games occassionally
>never deal with this shit
>>331951009
OP video games arent the only culprit its happening to many other mediums and people with half a brain are hating it
>>331957845
thanks for the mcdonalds math i needed that to understand
>>331957872
I mostly play western shit and dont have to deal with this issue
Even got to shoot anita in fc4, a ubisoft title
Whatever happened to Jade?
I missed that one event where she was supposedly drunk hosting.
>>331957857
Real talk, why minorities and women are a) separated b)considered equal?
>>331957951
i can't even
don't talk to me or my wife's son ever again
>>331957857
It's about class not race dipshit. Racism is kept relevant to distract the masses from joining together and demanding more for the poor and middle class. Keep them scared of each other while the bankers and rich bleed them all dry.
>>331951009
>Remember when video games were just about fun? When games were inspiring, fantastical, innovative, and didn't have any ulterior motives.
No because that never ever ever has ever happened you fucking crazy cunt.
>>331958078
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
>>331958106
You get 'me, Anon!
Video games were never fun!
So what's wrong with being an SJW anyway?
>>331957506
Dishonored was pretty mediocre though.
Suffered from the modern game treatment of every AAA release, it was a massive step down from their two previous games.
>Top
Men and woman
White, Black, Asian
>Bottom
female, white
Truly a diverse world we live in.
>>331958245
Dishonored was really good if you ghosted through or went full combat
>>331958237
Nothing. Just keep in mind that SJW does not imply racism and sexism against white men.
>>331958245
Wonder how many AAA studios suffer from poor management since smaller teams in the past made great games with way smaller budgets.
>>331958196
whos this meme funny to
>>331958380
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
American influence ruins everything
Why is this surprising?
>>331958237
>>331958406
>nothing
teehee.
>>331958406
It's not implied.
It's expressly stated.
:)
>>331951009
Nah, there's so much to pick from these days even if huge part of it is total junk.
I'm more bitter about shitty sequels that have barely anything to do with the earlier game(s) and lazy "HD remakes" that instead of being a proper remake is just upscaled thing with barely any changes.
>>331958331
>we need to be more diverse
>hire more women
>only ones who represent muh lgbt are white females
>now the different races and male gender are minority making it even less diverse
>>331957346
It used to be, but the modern interpretion pretty much is Easter Europe = Everything that was part of the second world
>>331951210
hot tip: there's only western games now. Japan has totally dropped the ball and done mobile (see Konami in particular). Chink/Sork games are mobile shit as well.
At the end of it, the only games left untainted are passion projects on steam
>>331958421
Everyone who isn't a cuck and finds SJWs to be hilarious clowns.
>>331958196
Black people gotta be kept on democrat plantation and republicans gotta be kept mad at brown people. All the while both sides are in the pocket of big finance and keep things favorable for the bankers and shareholders. American dream died a long time ago bud. One day you'll grow up and realize it too.
>>331958717
i dont find hillbilly redneck conservatives or city kid sjw retards to be funny
>>331958138
No I don't play games for autistic children and manchildren who shit in their bed.
>>331951009
>Remember when video games were just about fun? When games were inspiring, fantastical, innovative, and didn't have any ulterior motives.
No.
Look on the bright side.
Now you have time to finish that backlog you've been working on.
>>331951210
/thread
>>331958784
Oh, so this IS the shitpost thread.
>>331958773
Why not? I hope you don't take them seriously.
>>331958864
>generic survival with crafting game
>>331958695
>proximity mines in my vagina?
>it's more likely than you think!
Hey yo this thread's gonna blow up in like 2 minutes so before it does I wanted to ask a question about something y'all might know about
I've been playing Starsector and I'm trash at it because I don't know what to do. The game just dumped me in a huge world and I don't know what step one is. Can anybody help? TIA
>>331953342
It's all retarded anyway but here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Men%27s_Day
>>331958963
dumb people will be dumb people
>>331958237
Haven't really gotten a serious answer yet.
>>331958864
i don't even get enjoyment from playing videogames anymore
so i just read stories about other people enjoying games on an anonymous chinese cartoon pictograph sharing forum
>>331958864
>/V/
Opinion discarded.
>>331958237
>>331959119
Regressive ideology of treating people unequally.
People aren't replying to you because they think your post is bait.
And it is.
>>331959132
I bet your family and friends are proud of you.
>>331959098
And for intellectual patricians such as ourselves, their antics are quite amusing.
>>331958864
>/V/
>goldberg
pure coincidence
2007 was fucking horrible.
>but CoD4
Had tons of connectivity issues.
>but Bioshock
Linear, easy bullshit.
>but Halo 3
Legitimately a shit game.
>but Mass Effect
Nice effort. But the 360 version is literally the worst.
>>331959241
>smug anime face
Opinion discarded.
>>331951009
Boo-fuckin'-hoo, OP.
If you don't like today's games, go and play games that came out years ago. I'm sorry, but games are now like this and shit is not gonna change. It's only going to get worse for people like you who don't want games to have agendas.
But there are plenty of old games you've never played -- probably never heard of.
>>331951009
I liked it better when gaming was a niche thing.
>>331956616
holy shit this so much
the few actual dominas you occasionally hear from on twitter about this meanwhile are really chill about feminism and gender shit
>>331958684
>Ignoring Atlus
>Ignoring Square Enix
You're right about Konami, but with upcoming games from Atlus and Square Enix, then this looks like the year of JRPG. Then that isn't even including some Sega games since they have realized people in the west want the yakuza games, and they are delivering.
>>331959321
that is some nice looking raspberry jelly
>>331955042
Honestly? No
>>331951009
your image shows the problem, but not the only one you are thinking, games are made by teams of 500 niggers now, of course they are dumb generic and compromised
>>331951418
Hello tumblr
>>331959195
>Regressive ideology of treating people unequally.
Well that's demonstrably untrue, though, when you look at how the word is applied, in this thread for example.
In fact it seems the regressive ideology of treating people unequally is the one that belongs to the people complaining about SJWs, and their "agenda" of "diversity" and treating people with respect and all that.
>>331959601
Now you're just baiting hardcore.
Looking into history, what's happened with videogames really isn't that out of the norm. Initially nobody knew what the fuck they were and the medium was extremely niche. Slowly it grew more and more mainstream, until it reached a point where more and more people are starting to exploit it.
I like to think that eventually the AAA industry will collapse in on itself, but regardless, its only getting easier and cheaper for developers to make games. That accessibility also means that dumbasses can make stupid shit like what you see on early access; the whole issue with that could be solved if Valve got some standards.
On the topic of PC bullshit, realize that every art form has had censors. Also realize that these people have every right to make their own games. Lastly, let it be known that AAA garbage has no singular artistic vision, so if something PC gets added, its not a big deal.
>>331951418
>goobergater
Fuck off permanently .
You faggots have been outed.
GET OUT.
THE WALL JUST GOT TEEN FEET HIGHER.
>>331959373
>I liked it better when gaming was a niche thing.
So...never? Christ, you faggots are delusional.
>>331959507
Been here since '08 and never been to Reddit.
>more anime shitposting
Opinion discarded.
>>331952539
>denying reality
BACK TO MEXICO.
>>331959726
Not taking the bait.
>>331951009
Agenda is a /pol/ meme word. You can still find a shitload of games that are just about fun if you bother to look for them.
But I guess crying about MUH SJW on /v/ is more fun
Speaking of GoofyGoobers.
>Hulk slams Gawker
>SJW blame it on GoofyGoobers
It's funny how these people are so affraid they keep acting like GG is still a thing.
>triggered /pol/ tards spamming gore and femdom because they have no real arguments
O, I'm laffin
>>331959894
I thought the femdom was from butthurt feminists.
>>331951210
EFFPEEBEEPEE
>>331959781
I guess I was kind of vague in that statement. I personally have no problems with steam beyond a mild annoyance from seeing stupid shit on the front page. Even so, do you not think that if Valve were to raise the bar of entry, these lazy indie devs might actually try harder? Then again, it might not even be worth caring about creators who don't create out of a desire to do so.
>>331959920
Dynamite fuses don't get put out by water that easily.
>>331956604
>"I live in X country that means im a history expert and you cant question anything I do or say"
epic
>>331959975
Nah, it's the jews, always bringing us down.
>>331959989
Well that was clearly a mistake, now, wasn't it?
>>331959662
You might as well have said ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
Remember when /v/ wasn't overflowing dumb right-wing SJWs like OP?
>>331960089
I find it odd that /pol/ hates SJWs so much, considering how much they both hate jews.
>>331960150
It was a better time.
>>331960150
Pre-Gamergate /v/ was preety good
>>331951009
why exactly is Jade front and center in top?
what the fuck does she even do?
>>331960126
I should have, considering it's clear he's just trying to get a laugh.
>>331960182
/pol/ are the niggers of white people, except replace EVIL WHITEY with DA JOOSE.
>>331958246
Jesus you fucked up the joke.
It's supposed to be:
>He told me to make him a sandwich
>...So I made him a sub
>>331960262
The thing is SJWs are starting to be just as anti Semitic. It's weird isn't it?
>>331960228
the faGGotry was just the icing on the shit cake that has been brewing since 2013, and even earlier if you consider the anti-feminism aspects of the "feels threads" before that.
>>331951009
Pretty sure if there was some way to start a petition to a game company, it would have thousands of signatures.
But this is /v/
>>331960295
Yet they're being massively shit on by the SJWs in colleges left and right with all kinds of the same shit you see on /pol/.
>>331960332
Sure, I don't spend all day trawling Twitter to find stuff to get mad at. I'm sure they both have massive victim complexes though.
what is the point of this thread?
all i learned is that i don't mind guro anymore.
>>331959886
Actually what happened was the people who still cling to GG celebrated and even took partial credit even though they weren't even a piss droplet in the ocean and all of this would've gone down exactly the same without them.
Why would SJWs join GG in their masturbatory fantasy of relevance when it's easily another example of GG being irrelevant, delusional, and pathetic, not to mention petty and mean-spirited?
>>331960351
Nothing wrong with anti-feminism though.
/v/ and 4chan has always been against that kind of retardation.
>>331959714
y tho?
>>331960447
anime guro is childish, it will never compare to real gore
Post you're 3D vidya industry waifus
>>331960465
>petty and mean-spirited?
Yes, WHY ON EARTH WOULD SJWs EVERY ACT LIKE THIS, IT'S TOTALLY OUT OF CHARACTER!
>>331960470
Fuck off goober
>>331960470
Except that shit should stay in /pol/ because its almost never related to videogames
>>331960242
No, I'm dead serious.
People act like SJWs are these dangerous extremists but when you look at the things that are actually derided as "SJW" there's usually very little wrong with it and the people railing against them are just not very nice people.
>>331952263
>then you see a tumblrtale thread on /v/
cancer spreads, you can't ignore it.
>>331960560
GG pretends to be different from SJWs, though.
>>331960671
>WHY DO PEOPLE TALK ABOUT A GAME I DONT LIKE ON THE VIDEOGAME BOARD???? MUH SJW
eric, simply eric
perhaps we should all get a new hobby. maybe we can get a few years out of it before its gets over run. we had a good run vidya but oh well
>>331960470
Speak for yourself. /v/ is not one person.
>>331960652
And I'm dead serious as well.
Whenever I see any social justice issues or progressive issues, the people are cruel, mean spirited people who are full of hate and spite who do nothing but spit hate and vitriol.
>>331959680
>TEEN FEET
Mmm...
>>331960674
>le palestine did nothing wrong meme
>>331960768
Yeah, sure, go ahead. I'm sure it's best for everyone.
>>331960768
I will take up mongolian throat singing, good thing we're already posting on a website dedicated to it.
>>331960781
I am giving you the benefit of the doubt here anon that you are not silly or foolish enough to be feminist.
>>331955263
Why would anyone but an SJW put gays into a videogame?
>>331954907
>tfw live in a country without womans day
feels good man
It's like having a black day or a brown hair day, shits retarded.
>>331960730
The only problem I have with that image is the last line suggesting that some cultures aren't superior to others.
>>331959601
I know this is bait, but I'm going to respond anyway.
SJWs push for inclusiveness and diversity in different fields, but the way they go about it is violently and belligerently exclusive. Instead of saying, "Huh, there are no games that feature black people. I should make a game that features black people," and thus adding to and expanding the video games market, most SJWs (not all, there are some developers who are doing this) instead say, "Wow, this game developed by a white male doesn't have enough black people in it! How shitty and racist!"
By putting these soft restrictions on games to be as inclusive and diverse as possible, they're stifling creativity and forcing other developers to dance to their tune. If a developer's game isn't quite PC enough, SJWs will blast them on Twitter, run campaigns to stop people from purchasing the games, and shame the developers into doing what they want them to do, sometimes causing entire features or sections to be removed from games because they were deemed "too problematic".
As an ideology, social justice is fine. Like pretty much any ideology, it makes sense on paper and looks really appealing. That's why so many people adopt the SJW culture, as it touts itself as a tool of justice and equality. But the methods that most people who follow the SJW trends use are nothing more than bullying and throwing fits, and people somehow want to take them seriously. All because they're hiding behind an ideology that looks great, but breeds toxicity under the hood.
>>331960818
schlomo pls
>>331957845
This is basically it. The right caused the immigration boom because they sold out their own people in the hunt for the cheapest possible labour.
Can't speak for the US really, but in the UK we had a very strong industrial sector producing our own cars and things, then the Conservative government decided that it was too expsensive and outsourced everything to China and Asia. Now the UK has no real industry and has become a union of service sector workers and middle management for foreign companies.
All because the right sought to maximise profits and sell out our own skilled labour force because they had the guts to ask to be paid what they were worth.
>>331960895
Wow, I spent 20 fucking minutes writing that post, and now it's going to be disregarded because of your shitty picture.
Why do I even go on /v/ anymore, I'm going to kill myself
>>331960794
You'll always see some, sure. But they support good causes in spite of being terrible people. Anti-SJWs oppose those causes because they are terrible people. And then they generalise those causes as "SJW" because they associate it only with the radicals. As a result, "SJW" no longer means radical. It means anyone who supports a good cause. So anti-SJWs are automatically bad people, whereas bad people are only incidental on the SJW side.
>>331960881
Shut up fascist, n'bongo mkawe has just as much right to his child raping culture of genital mutilation and animal sacrifice as you do to yours.
The solution to all of this? Refuse to play anything that even tries having some kind of political message. Infact, get rid of all the trash that has a story, period, except for maybe 2-3 minutes of minor context here and there. Think about it, if there's no story, the author can't push their retarded political agenda, and the game has to be about gameplay first. And really, what do we lose?
>trash like Xenoblade, Bayonetta, Metal Gear, Uncharted, Halo, Fallout, Call of duty, etc
Put it in the waste bin where it belongs.
>>331960473
I can understand the difference between the crimes of the state of Israel and that not all people who are jewish are necessarily perpetrators of these crimes or condone them.
>>331959250
It's fucking hilarious.
>look at us, we're strong domineering women
Except that's exactly what these men want.
Reminder that the bottom pic is merely all the female employees who work in that particular Ubisoft building, this includes secretaries and janitors
Basically, those at the bottoms are not all developers. Just anyone who does something in the building who happens to be female.
Oh but who am I kidding, I'm too late for this aren't it?
>300 replies
>>331953746
Actuall a men's day already exists, November 19
I agree with you btw, these '''''''''celebrations'''''''''' are retarded and just commercial at this point
>>331961128
Opposing SJWs is not the same as opposing the ideals. This is where your logic takes a nose dive into retardation.
Supporting a "good cause" but executing it poorly is still shitty and not redeemed.
Might I also add you are begging the question as well; stating outright that all the causes they all support are all good always. Which is also wrong. Your logic is fallacious as fuck.
Being radical is not really all that laudable either. Saying, "oh if you hate SJWs you automatically hate all the causes they necessarily believe in and therefore must hate the causes they believe in and you must hate equality" is such bullshit logic I can't fathom how you reached it.
>>331958684
Go look at the upcoming games for 3DS and PS4.
>>331960860
It was scepticism and rationality that made me a feminist, when /r9k/ was still young and robots would proudly self-identify as misogynists. I noticed the terrible arguments anti-feminists used full of fallacies and leaps in logic. I noticed how much of it was rooted in bitterness and anger instead of rational arguments. I noticed the often very benign and commonsensical ideas they would denounce as if it were all the SCUM manifesto. I noticed that the alternatives they suggested never seemed very fair and always seemed rather selfish and mean.
I was on the path to becoming just like them at first, but they held me up a mirror, and I turned away.
>>331957845
>Well americans would do those shit jobs if they paid them more ;^)
The american mindset, everyone
>>331960470
/v/ and 4chan have always been indifferent.
Fuck off back to twitter with your social justice bullshit
>>331961293
Ironically, SJWs are starting to hate jews indiscriminately.
>>331961395
lmao who cares about mudslimes
>>331960908
shut up spider
what do you know about human politics
>>331961406
So you saw some people argue against it fallacious, you concluded there were no rational arguments.
Nice.
you guys argue about some really pointless stuff and that's saying something considering that this is a malaysian falconry forum
>first it was femdom pics
>now it's jews pics
the fuck are you guys doing
what is this thread
>three (3) whole hours
>this thread is STILL up
What the fuck mods?
The issue is you OP, you don't like video games anymore and you care more about feminists and bogeymen.
>>331960908
>nstead of saying, "Huh, there are no games that feature black people. I should make a game that features black people," and thus adding to and expanding the video games market, most SJWs (not all, there are some developers who are doing this) instead say, "Wow, this game developed by a white male doesn't have enough black people in it! How shitty and racist!"
>(not all, there are some developers who are doing this)
So then there's nothing inherently wrong with it, and complaining about SJW developers is actually entirely missing the point?
>By putting these soft restrictions on games to be as inclusive and diverse as possible, they're stifling creativity and forcing other developers to dance to their tune.
They're not forcing anyone any more than /v/ shitposting is forcing developers to pander to /v/.
>But the methods that most people who follow the SJW trends use are nothing more than bullying and throwing fits, and people somehow want to take them seriously. All because they're hiding behind an ideology that looks great, but breeds toxicity under the hood.
And yet anti-SJWs always tend to denounce the ideology, rather than the people, or tend to see them as inseparable. Seems rather counterproductive.
>>331961128
>some
Most if not all.
>>331960986
Shut up, spider.
>>331953410
>SJWs are marxists
>what has communism anything to do with SJWs
>>331951009
I think I genuinely need a break from all this socio-political garbage. Its too depressing.
I have so much free time on my hands, to do what I want, yet I constantly come back to observing this shit and getting angry about it. I guess humans really do need conflict in their lives.
Also OP, just play old games. There's pretty much an emulator for anything, thats what I spend most my time with.
>>331961709
>SJWs are marxists
>Source: My ass
>>331961617
>the ideology
The ideology of...bullying people?
Oh no.
What a terrible thing.
>>331951009
>it seems like every game has an agenda to push
it seems like that because you're on /v/, where hysterical nerds whip themselves into a frenzy over the slightest details that dont even matter
>>331961193
>Bayonetta
>trash
nice meme, unironically kill yourself
>>331951009
The sjw cancer is not only related to videogames. Go and watch some tv, some movies and you will see the same shit:
>MUH DIVERSITY
>ghostbusters
>not enough blacks
>not enough womyn
>>331961525
There aren't in fact, it's nothing but emotions and fallacies from any sides involved into this
Granted I'm not him but when it comes to internet movements the mentality always is
>it's ok when we do it
>>331961374
>Opposing SJWs is not the same as opposing the ideals. This is where your logic takes a nose dive into retardation.
It's an observation, rather than a logical conclusion.
>Might I also add you are begging the question as well; stating outright that all the causes they all support are all good always.
Of course. It is social justice. It is inherently good. That is not to say that SJWs can't also support causes that aren't good, but those causes would not be social justice, and their support would be incidental to their being SJWs.
>Being radical is not really all that laudable either.
No, it's not. Hence it's understandable that anti-SJWs try to label support for social justice causes as inherently radical. But that's a fallacy on their part.
>>331961817
This bout sums it up
Stop being sensitive little bitches and play some vidya
>>331961793
I do it too but because I have OCD and I legitimately start feeling ill if I stay away from this shit for too long
Save me, the meds aren't working
>>331961193
>Xenoblade, Bayonetta, Metal Gear
Fucking kill yourself
>>331961525
If there was one good argument in support of their position, none of them managed to come up with it in several years. Meanwhile, I was exposed to some very reasonable points from the other side which were always painted as ridiculous.
After a while it just seemed statistically unlikely that anti-feminists had anything more to offer than self-entitled whinging and fallacious reasoning.
Nice video games faggots
Why don't you just fuck off
>>331961837
>watching the BBC last night on the tellybox
>"we're usually criticized on this show for not being diverse enough, not having enough minorities as guests, but this week I think you'll be pleasantly surprised; we've got a welsh bloke AND a fat man!"
>>331961958
This is /V/. We like video games, not movies. Fuck off with your cinematic shit, fucking milennial.
>>331961817
This, everything is life or death or world-ending when it's just either a bunch of social justice warrior whining or something that has little to no effect on their life in any way other than using it to act like drama queens.
>>331961870
>Of course. It is social justice. It is inherently good.
Labeling something you're doing as "social justice" does not automatically mean what you are doing or supporting "good."
>That is not to say that SJWs can't also support causes that aren't good, but those causes would not be social justice, and their support would be incidental to their being SJWs.
This is a real no true scotsman you have. "it wouldn't be Social justice if it wasn't good!"
Except to say the parts that are declared social justice, that aren't. And, believe me, if you think there aren't bad:
There are fucking plenty. Most of them, in fact.
>But that's a fallacy on their part.
Fallacious in what sense?
>>331961193
Is this pasta? I'm getting a feeling of Deja vu
>>331961797
>The ideology of...bullying people?
That's the method, not the ideology.
If you want to say that SJWs are inherently bullies, fair enough, I can see why you'd hate them, but then you'd also have to admit that Ubisoft putting minorities in their own games is not SJW on their part in the slightest. On the other hand, if that does make them SJW, then being an SJW has nothing inherently to do with bullying people.
Either way you're bitching about being inclusive of minorities rather than about bullying people.
>>331951210
>japanese games get censored in the West
it's not as simple as you're claiming because these western faglords affect a lot more than their own games.
>>331961958
>>331961828
>""""""games"""""" with more cinematics than your average COD title
>with console-centric gameplay no less, designed to be "comfy" instead of challenging
>this is somehow good
No thank you.
>>331961853
>There aren't in fact
There's plenty, if you ever took the time to think about it.
>>331962039
There are plenty of good arguments if you take the time to listen, broaden your horizons, and look around. Make some logical steps.
Any one else find it amusing that straight white dudes who are leftist get the most shit from everyone?
>you're not oppressed enough, you don't belong on the left
>haha you white knight cuck.
>>331962310
Oh please, as if I haven't
It's all pseudo-science, pseudo-history and feelings.
>>331960674
>Shoot at someone
>Get mad when they shoot back with a bigger gun
Nigga you serious right now?
>>331962173
If it's not good it's not justice, innit.
>Fallacious in what sense?
In that support from radicals does not imply the position itself is radical. If someone bombed the white house for his right to play video games that doesn't make the act of playing video games extremist.
>>331962191
>If you want to say that SJWs are inherently bullies, fair enough, I can see why you'd hate them, but then you'd also have to admit that Ubisoft putting minorities in their own games is not SJW on their part in the slightest.
I'm not the op, nor am I making the latter assertion.
Do I agree with putting minorities in a game JUST for the purpose of putting minorities in a game? No, that would be stupid.
Many SJWs do, but, that's not necessarily an SJW issue. If they want to put minorities in their game though that's their prerogative. But it ends up negatively effecting the characters when the character is added and developed as per their race, religion, sex, sexuality or whatever FIRST rather than the character that may have those traits.
What I am is not who I am. And that is true for believable video game characters as well. Of course "believable" is not always what's needed.
>>331962310
I'm still on /v/, you think I'm not exposed to anti-feminism on a daily basis?
>>331961837
Its all a controlled effort with very malicious endgoals. I know it sounds like conspiratard garbage but this shit is so unbelievable self-destructive yet prevalent in all facets of media that there is simply no other explanation
>>331962321
Young white males are the new marginalized member of society in the US. SJWs hate them. Older white people hate them (unless they are related to them and even then still sometimes). It's pretty ironic.
>>331962458
>If it's not good it's not justice, innit.
What is good is subjective.
What SJWs may BELIEVE to be good, may, in fact, not be.
This is the whole problem. "it's good so it's justice, right?"
And thus we come to the problem. Justice is objective or at the very least strives to be.
What you feel to be good or bad is not and has not duty to objectivity.
>>331962514
Some people just can't take a hint and die when they're supposed to.
>>331962547
I'm not sure that it's a huge conspiracy, but it's definitely about power. Think about it. Do you think a movement just ends or stops once it accomplishes it's claimed goals? Nope. It keeps on going because power seeks more power. Equality stopped being a goal a long fucking time ago.
>>331962534
Then, as much as you may not listen to it, have heard of some pretty rational arguments against it. Against patriarchy theory, against the whole privilege bullshit. Against _all_ of it.
>>331962607
>israel literally destroyed Liberty
>americans will defend this while yapping about "muh freedom and liberty"
is there a single country that's stupider than america?
If I started a game dev company with 100% white male, some of them racists, most of them homophobic but because they had the top credentials, I hired them. They cream out a very good game, but all the reviews put it down with their social agenda shit.
Would it be supported by you? Exactly. Got to pander.
>>331957726
THAT TWO FACED PIECE OF SHIT. Fucking Backstabber
>>331962494
>Do I agree with putting minorities in a game JUST for the purpose of putting minorities in a game? No, that would be stupid.
Why? It's their game. Let them. Why would you oppose that? There are so many things in games that are just there for the sake of having them there. Why is the inclusion of minorities different from having ice cubes melt at different speeds relative to their distance from a heat source in that regard?
>Many SJWs do, but, that's not necessarily an SJW issue.
That's what it ends up being in /v/'s discourse, though.
>But it ends up negatively effecting the characters when the character is added and developed as per their race, religion, sex, sexuality or whatever FIRST rather than the character that may have those traits.
That's not necessarily true, nor is it necessarily obvious. /v/ just jumps to this conclusion almost by default.
SJWs aren't the main problem, but they do help make it worse.
>>331962310
>there's plenty, but I don't have any examples or sources
Ok buddy.
>janitor applications
>two weeks later, threads are deleted within minutes
>three weeks later, offtopic threads stay up for hours again
>>331962658
I've seen people misunderstand concepts and attack strawmen thinking they had great arguments, sure.
>>331962801
>Why would you oppose that?
I just explained why.
re read:
It effects the game. That's my opinion on why I think it's a bad decisions.
>That's not necessarily true, nor is it necessarily obvious
It's typically true, and typically obvious. Almost patently so.
>>331962868
They've got their hotpockets, they don't need to do shit now.
>>331951009
If they SJW my triple A games, I won't buy them anymore. Simple as that. It's as simple as good games to SJW crap.
>>331962801
>let them
No one is stopping them. What you're asking is for people to stop dissenting, which makes you cancer to the industry.
>>331962873
>>331962815
Do you want me to go into depth about the problems with feminism?
>>331962763
If you can keep it out of your game I see no reason why it should even come up. If you inject all that shit into your game people would be right to pan it.
>>331962981
considering I was referring to a post defending feminism, that doesn't seem necessary. But knock yourself out.
>>331962961
Except that's an outright lie?
>>331963020
>If you can keep it out of your game
Except that then SJWs change the definiton of what sexism/racism is. Literally this is what happens. I've watched it happen over the course of a decade.
>>331963045
>considering I was referring to a post defending feminism
I wasn't.
I think I may have misunderstood the post before it.
>>331962237
>""""""games"""""" with more cinematics than your average COD title"
Xenoblade is a fucking JRPG no shit
Bayonetta has the same amount of custscene as a COD game
It's Metal Gear.
>with console-centric gameplay no less, designed to be "comfy" instead of challenging
You never played Bayonetta have you?
Xenobade and Metal Gear were designed for consoles no fucking shit
>>331962921
>It's typically true, and typically obvious. Almost patently so.
You can't actually check unless you get a special insight in the development process so you're really just assuming.
>>331962980
Well, you're bitching about it on the internet, which, I am told, is very stifling to creativity and intellectual liberty.
>>331952312
>Hopefully everyone one of these libtards get killed by Trump and we can be free to express ourselves again.
I support trump, but I don't think he supports video games.
>>331963115
ah, in that case: 3rd wave (neo) feminism is complete bullshit. That is my opinion for clarity's sake.
>>331962981
Nah, not really. I doubt I haven't heard it before and this is still /v/.
>>331951848
I never thought that.
I also think having creators as the people in charge of the business aspects is fucking retarded. We've seen how awful some of these indie developers can be with Kickstarter money or public relations
>>331963138
I can't check if the game characters are poorly designed?
I think that's pretty easy to tell anon.
>>331962360
Israel is basically the feminazi SJWs and Palestinians are the poor guys that wanna play good non-SJW games.
>>331951009
>Le women are ruining games meme
At least you're transparent about your bigotry.
>>331963136
This>>331963068
Wasn´t me champ. Are you falseflagging?
>>331963126
>Xenoblade is a fucking JRPG no shit
And how does that excuse it?
>Bayonetta has the same amount of custscene as a COD game
Wrong. They both have around 3 hours if you also take into account the time you have to listen to the characters talk.
>It's Metal Gear.
And? No video game should ever exceed that much time spent towards feelings and cutscenes and garbage.
>You never played Bayonetta have you?
You can't play a cinematic experience, m8.
>>331963092
This doesn't actually make any sense.
>>331963195
If you've heard what I've got to say before, you've heard rational arguments against it before, and ignored it.
>>331957845
>i can't compete
>clearly the coimpetitive people are at fault
get good you faggot.
>>331963138
>which, I am told, is very stifling to creativity and intellectual liberty.
So you're just shit-posting now? No one said this, you're just being obtuse.
>>331963169
It'll be hilarious if Trump gets elected and the memers voting for him realize that he's going to be anti-video games and anime.
>>331957845
>Tl;dr You would still get your big Mac for 25 cents more but an American would be making it.
food analogy
>>331963252
You would think not but no - SJWs will actually claim that the definition of racism and sexism are different from what they actually are to suit their complaints.
They will claim a game is sexist or racist by using invented definitions.
>>331958078
Glad someone gets it
>>331963227
>I can't check if the game characters are poorly designed?
But you can only guess the reasons.
If a character is black and poorly designed, would he still be poorly designed if he weren't black? Maybe the character designers just aren't very good. You can't actually point out that the character is bad because he is black. All you can say is he's bad and he's black.
>>331963308
When SJWs do it on twitter /v/ literally says this.
Anyway, even if you're not actively preventing people from doing what they want, why even have a problem with it when there's nothing wrong with it?
>>331961374
Hey, do you wanna get a milkshake later?
>>331957123
>2016
>being a burgercuck
I like Jews more than I like Muslims so I support the Jews.
>>331963252
>this doesn't make sense
>it's a fucking fact
Sorry the truth is so inconvenient for your indoctrinated mind:
"Some sociologists also argue that, particularly in the West where racism is often negatively sanctioned in society, racism has changed from being a blatant to a more covert expression of racial prejudice. The "newer" (more hidden and less easily detectable) forms of racism—which can be considered as embedded in social processes and structures—are more difficult to explore as well as challenge. It has been suggested that, while in many countries overt or explicit racism has become increasingly taboo, even in those who display egalitarian explicit attitudes, an implicit or aversive racism is still maintained subconsciously.[33]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism
>>331963271
You're awfully sure of yourself.
>>331963458
Sure anon, that sounds fun.
Where do you wanna go?
>>331963347
Just as some tards on /v/ keep claiming games are SJW this and SJW that by using invented definitions.
>>331951009
The bottom group looks like a group that would make a shit feminist indie game. The top group, a game like Oblivion. They're no match. And you still picked a picture that's feminist. The lady in front of all the dudes probably wasn't even the lead designer.
>>331952653
This guy gets it.
What's ironic, is that the SJWs shaming games that don't have diversity is actually counter intuitive to their goal of equality. All it has done is create a quota for developers to fill (they need to have a certain number of women, black, homosexuals, trans). The problem is they develop that character simply to appease the SJWs, but the character isn't fully fleshed out. This means that instead of having an interesting character who just so happens to be gay or trans, we have a character whose defining characteristic is being gay or trans.
>>331963448
>/v/ literally says this
confirmed for shit-posting. Respond to my post or fuck off. I'm not interested in fallacies.
>>331963504
Why would I be unsure of rational arguments?
If I was unsure of them, they wouldn't be very rational, would they?
>>331963518
Let's go to the malt shop, down the road.
>>331963347
>>331963496
You people aren't thinking. You're framing the process completely backwards: 1. SJWs want to complain about a game for no reason at all. 2. SJWs have racism as their excuse to complain about things. 3. Something that isn't racist gets labelled racist to satisfy the need to complain.
When in actuality 1. The definition of racism is refined over the years 2. SJWs are concerned with actual racism 3. SJWs find racism somewhere and consider that a good reason to complain
>>331952758
>Why are Jews in the USA overwhelmingly liberal?
Ever notice who is now the majority of the serf population? It's now minorities/women, with white males either being completely fucked out of jobs or at the top with the jews. Who do you think is behind the SJW's?
>>331957845
>with no intention of staying here long term
erm, I think you're wrong about that
>>331963539
Touche anon.
Not everything that everyone on this board claims is SJW, is SJW.
>>331963448
>But you can only guess the reasons.
In the instances of borderlands 2 and the pre sequel, there were some shitty characters, dialogue, and writing.
And burch was very VERY upfront about why.
That's just using one example, anon.
Another would be other games and developers that state their intent purpose of "diversity," which, while not inherently bad, putting in a character for that purpose can be, well, we already went over this I think?
The overwhelming majority of mainstream games still target the dudebro demographic that's been the focus on the industry for the past 10-15 years. What political message do you think Call of Duty or Ubisoft Sandbox #247 has?
>>331963636
Oh shit a strawman comic
Blown the fuck out
>>331963636
It's hilarious how a-like you are that you even reply to arguments using shitty strawman tumblr-like pictures or comics like they do.
>>331963658
>1. The definition of racism is refined over the years
The definition of racism seems pretty cut and dry.
Prejudice based on race. Anything else is not refined. It's incorrect.
>>331962074
The Brits are really good at the Banter
>>331963539
So you're this guy basically?
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>>331963636
Holy shit you rekt him with that sick image, i loved the part where progress is considered wrong, nice.
>>331963693
So you think Burch could've written better characters if he had only left out the social justice stuff?
>we already went over this I think?
Yeah, you thought it was silly, I believe, and I thought there was nothing wrong with it.
>mods delete jew pics
>keep the thread alive
When are the next applications?
I'm seriously consider to apply because holy shit our current mods are fucking terrible
when did /v/ get filled with actual unironic legit misogynists?
>>331963760
Maybe "definition" is inaccurate. It's more that its exact workings are better understood. The definition stays the same, but we get better at detecting prejudice.
>>331951009
you can blame the plebs. they ruin everything. just recently started getting back into games. i stopped playing them for a good few years, i come back and they have turned even worse. most people who call themselves "gamers" now a days dont play much but mainstream titles - i.e call of duty, halo, skyrim, fall out.
>>331963636
Was this made by that patri-archie faggot?
He's like the champion of dumb strawman comics
>>331963790
banned ;^)
>>331963791
>>331963791
Several years before you move from reddit
>>331951009
The funny thing about that picture is that the pre sjw pic looks more diverse
>>331963585
That's circular reasoning.
>>331963790
>I'm seriously consider to apply because holy shit our current mods are fucking terrible
They also did it just in time when the thread hit the bump limit so they could bump their shill thread even more.
Very impressive actually.
>>331952653
>I fucking hate it when these people are called liberals. They are not liberals in the slightest.
You're just like faggot Muslims crying that ISIS aren't true Muslims.
>>331963658
You're attributing statements to my argument that I never made. I assure you, I've thought about this a lot.
> 1. SJWs want to complain about a game for no reason at all
They complain because it gives them a platform. A platform gives them power.
>SJWs have racism as their excuse to complain about things
Because that's one of the things their power platform is built upon.
>Something that isn't racist gets labelled racist to satisfy the need to complain.
Because actual racism is no longer prevalent in any meaningful way, but people still need a reason to complain because otherwise they lose power.
The crazy thing is, you act like this isn't how it's been for decades. What I'm saying is nothing new. You need to educate yourself before you speak down to me, try harder next time faggot.
>>331963783
>So you think Burch could've written better characters if he had only left out the social justice stuff?
Burch added characters JUST to be gay. JUST to be inclusive.
He also admitted they suffered in the game as a result as being very good.
> I thought there was nothing wrong with it.
I explained why I thought it wasn't very good. As I said, more times than not, the characters suffer. The writing suffers. Adding in a character just for diversity sake makes the character weak.
Who you are is not what you are. This is important.
>>331963791
It's just a natural action-reaction.
>>331963791
when did /v/ get filled with actual unironic legit tumblrinas?
I can't beleive this thread is still up
>>331962651
Aside from the obvious overrepresentation of a certain group in the institutions that push this stuff the most- its just the illogical hate towards anything traditional coupled with the blissful ignorance of all the foul aspects of Islam that convinces me that this is all controlled. Even the biggest idiots should recognize patterns well enough to realize that islam is the culmination of social injustice, yet it is treated like a persecuted group of victims.
It all goes back to the Frankfurt school.
Bideo games
>>331963851
If I was mod I'd delete every single SJW shit on sight, I wouldn't let any of these thread get more than 50 replies
>>331963775
Someone already beat you to your tumblr style strawman picture.
I guess this is some sort of trend to use it to deflect criticism.
>>331963873
A better answer would be:
why shouldn't I be very sure of myself?
>>331963907
>feminists are bad so I'm gonna be just as bad but I'm excused because they did it first
Every time, this is what that other anon meant with fallacious reasoning
>>331963887
I think you might be a paranoid schizophrenic, Anon.
There is no conspiracy of people complaining about racism to stay in power at your expense. There are people who are genuinely concerned about actual racism. You may not understand it, but that's how it is. You are dealing with rational people arguing in good faith. If you can't understand this you will never understand what motivates them and you are doomed to always fight strawmen.
>>331963938
to deflect retardation
ftfy
double the truth man, I don't care
>>331963932
>if i were a mod i'd be a blatantly political faggot
Cheers for the info.
>>331963932
You can start by reporting every SJW thread you see.
>>331963246
>And how does that excuse it?
RPGs are mainly played for the story, and some of the most revelutionary games have a fuckton of them.
>Wrong. They both have around 3 hours if you also take into account the time you have to listen to the characters talk.
Bayonetta 1 Cutscenes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_BZ8XUXdms (2h 34min 2sec)
Bayonetta 2 Cutscenes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKhyM-c3FZY (1h 55min 20sec)
Call Of Duty Ghosts Cutscenes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO2kCtZ_nwg (2h 20h 19sec)
Call Of Duty Advanced Warfare Cutscenes:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idphc8MlwDs (2h 8min 19sec)
>And? No video game should ever exceed that much time spent towards feelings and cutscenes and garbage.
That's actually a valid point. Problem is that only 2 games in the series have that many cutscenes. (MGS2 and 4) The other ones aren't actually that bad.
>You can't play a cinematic experience, m8.
ayyyy good one
>There are people who are ashamed of being white
>There are people who think the race that has given the world the most advancements should take a backs eat in the world
>>331964004
What they believe to be racism*
>>331963891
>He also admitted they suffered in the game as a result as being very good.
I think he said potentially. But it's all hypothetical. There is no better Borderlands without gay people that we can compare it to.
>/v/ now has full blown SJWs running rampant
Welp, It was a painful death but it was inevitable I guess.
>>331964039
I do, but it's clearly not enough
>ignore them
>SJWs are a small minority
>they have no influence
>leave your room and go outside
How can people still say this? I might have believed that 8 years ago, but they've done plenty of damage by now. The Internet has a huge impact on society.
>>331964041
Nobody is talking about pancakes, you poor /pol/ refugee you.
>>331964068
>There is no better Borderlands without gay people that we can compare it to.
Borderlands 1.
Sorry.Not really that sorry.
>>331964080
What ''''''''damage'''''''' have they done?
>>331964098
What's your favorite pancake anon? I like Blueberry
>>331964024
>to deflect retardation
So that's why you're so retarded, it deflects your retardation back at yourself but you're so retarded that you don't realize that deflecting it back at yourself is retarded.
>>331963967
I don't know about you in particular but it's always good to question yourself.
>>331964040
>RPGs are mainly played for the story, and some of the most revelutionary games have a fuckton of them
Yes, and? A good game can tell the story through the gameplay, and doesn't need 10 HOURS OF CUTSCENES. And before you flaunt the 60-100 hour game time, let me remind you that games like dragon Age: Inquisition have the exact same game time, but that doesn't make it any less cinematic or poorly made.
>using the shaved down version that cuts out talking scenes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRKCWWNgYbg
>Problem is that only 2 games in the series
Any game with over 1 hour of cinematics is guilty of it. That includes every single Metal Gear ever made, minus the first one maybe.
>>331963778
>progress
You serious?
Picking shitty feminist women developers to make terrible video games/shit video game stories isn't progress. That's a downgrade.
If you agree with any of this, you are the current cancer in the industry:
>Video games are art;
>Games must have less interactivity in exchange for better visuals and/or story;
>ALL video games MUST be educational;
>ALL video games MUST cater to EVERYONE;
>Video games aren't just about having fun;
>Video games have much to learn from literature and movies;
>Visuals are more important than gameplay;
>"Immersion" is more important than gameplay;
>Niche and difficult games are elitist.
>>331963775
So you can't hate sexiest assholes with being an SJW? That makes no sense. You can have a more central viewpoint and accept ideas from both arguments. I hate the whiners on both sides. SJW's getting mad over bikinis as extra clothing that you aren't forced to wear are just as stupid as the mouth breathing idiots who think women have no place in how video games are made. I'm all for diversity in games but if it comes off as just an attempt to get obvious brownie points i.e throwing in a trans person in Assassin's Creed from the SJW's I can't stand it.
>>331964004
>I dont agree with someone
>better personally attack them
Call me when you get out of high-school anon. I'd love to hear your opinion of racism once you get into the job market, that is if you're white and male of course. If not, then enjoy never feeling accomplished since you'll never know if you're success is being propped up by artificial bullshit.
>You are dealing with rational people arguing in good faith
Good faith is not a part of business, and hasn't been for quite some time.
>>331964056
Yes, and they've thought about it a lot. You need to educate yourself before you speak down to them.
>>331964207
Feminists are dogmatic as shit, anon. Questioning their dogma doesn't happen.
>>331964149
Censorship in games
OP's image
Getting rid of confederate statues
Sweden
The whole refugees welcome shit
>>331964229
>ALL video games MUST be educational;
I don't agree about all but it doesn't hurt. I learned more about geography from Europa Universalis than from any class
>>331964224
Except the people at the bottom pic are not just developers, but everyone who works in that specific building who happens to be female
So janitors are included too
>>331964004
There are people who are actually (wrongly and stupidly) concerned about racism. They are driven by people who profit from identity politics. You'll understand once you're not a teenager, anon.
>>331964229
Video games can be art but not all video games must be art. It's no different than other form of media.
>>331964229
You are wrong.
>>331964278
Just because they believe strongly does not make their opinion more valid than mine.
Video game depictions of characters is not "real racism."
Their opinion is not necessarily true or negate my opinion or that mine is wrong either. You BELIEVE you are concerned with real racism. You are not infallible, and your opinion is not fact.
>>331964149
Black lives matters, see the state of every college campus
>>331964149
Universities are fucked
Black terrorists cause havoc with zero repercussion (Black lives Matter)
Birthrates are fucked
Divorce rates are fucked. Children of single mothers make up the biggest amount of people in prison
affirmative action is literally institutionalized racism ("want to get into this college? Too bad, we need more Jamals with bad marks!" not making this up)
Males have, I believe, twice the suicide rate as women
Europe getting literally overrun by illegal third-worlders
Perversion is put on a pedestal (LGBT+ people being a protected class)
Its easy to ignore on a personal level. Stay with your family and your friends, but do not assume that society is going to be pleasant in the future.
>>331964353
>Dat silk road
disgusting borders aside I got a little hard there
>>331964353
Still, the purpose of the game wasn't to be educational, just to be accurate. Anyway, I'm fine with a niche for educational games, especially for children. But when people think that games absolutely must teach you a lesson about whatever ideology they follow, it's a real problem.
>>331964417
Sure, these skillful manipulators have managed to infiltrate academia and brainwashed our best and brightest critical thinkers into all following the same reasoning (which, of course, is entirely false, or they wouldn't be wrong), but you're too smart for all that, because you stayed away from higher education, no doubt.
>>331964345
>Censorship in games
non-issue, inb4 but muh petting minigame
>OP's image
You're missing the context, see >>331961250
>Getting rid of confederate statues
non-issue, unless getting rid of a flag somehow destroys society to your eyes
>Sweden
Got shit to do with SJWs and besides people here always exaggerated that country because it's a meme
>The whole refugess welcome shit
Got shit to do with SJWs, but then again anyone who's on the left is automatically labeled as one so maybe your definition is incredibly loose
And you waste hours on the internet about this? Ayy lmao dude, get a life tbqh
>>331964491
>twice the suicide rate as women
Try 10 times.
BUT THAT'S BECAUSE OF OPPRESSION AGAINST WOMEN!
>>331964278
>Yes, and they've thought about it a lot
No they haven't. They've literally created physical spaces where they can go to avoid critically thinking about other people's views and opinions. The people and movement you're describing are not rational.
>>331964353
>Georgia
>Sibir
>Nizhny Novgorod
>>331964432
Still, differently from art, video games are necessarily about fun.
>>331964553
Why is it so hard to believe that profit motivates people to manipulate others? How can you struggle with this fact? There are limitless amounts of conflicts of interest within academia, and not just in identity politic areas. Economics is another hugely compromised area of academia that has been utterly destroyed in the last two decades.
>>331964278
>>331964560
This.
The average SJW literally believes it harassment to disagree with them or their believes or argue against them. They have safe spaces dedicated to being protected from ideas that offend or hurt them and challenge their ideals.
>>331964491
So basically SJWs are a scapegoat for everything you personally consider wrong with society, including some things that are objectively good, and things that SJWs logically couldn't possibly have been responsible for?
Good to know.
>>331964214
>RPGs are mainly played for the story, and some of the most revelutionary games have a fuckton of them
Yes, and? A good game can tell the story through the gameplay, and doesn't need 10 HOURS OF CUTSCENES.
.....Huh. Fuck man, you're right. Even though I don't think that games that have more than 1 hour of cutscenes are automatically 'cinematic experiences', I agree with everything else. Lost this one.
>using the shaved down version that cuts out talking scenes
The video you used still isn't that much longer than COD cutscenes tho
>>331964253
10 years ago, whoever got a good job in games was someone that was qualified for the job. Which was mostly men, and some women. Now, instead of qualification at play, it's just: "get dat feminist doe cause shes a woman you gotta pick er doe". End result: shit game.
>>331964554
>SJWs do have influence
>no they don't
>those aren't real issues
Ignored
>>331964491
>Universities are fucked
Not really, life goes on as usual even with dumb fields. As if the right doesn't have propaganda fields anyway (see: evo-psych)
>muh blacks
Oh fuck off
>Birthrates are fucked
Got shit to do with SJWs
>Divorce rates are fucked
Only in Murrica, got shit to do with SJWs anyway
>muh single mothers
pseudo-science and retarded correlation based on incorrect stats
>affirmative action
I'll give you that but even then again you guys over-blow it as fuck
>muh suicide rate
Only in Murrica, got shit to do with SJWs
>muh refugees
Got shit to do with SJWs
>edgelord mentality against fags
Oh fuck off
ayy lmao
>>331964253
Congratulations, SJWs will call you a sexist and a racist.
>>331964474
>Just because they believe strongly does not make their opinion more valid than mine.
No, they have logical arguments. You have strong beliefs.
>>331964683
>>331964560
These are ridiculous strawmen intended to poison the well, propped up by people who either have no personal experience with what they're talking about, or are intentionally disingenuous.
>>331964730
I want to live in a world where everything is so simple and straightforward.
>>331964149
>big universities/colleges ruined
>blacklivesmatter
>ruined a perfectly good website by taking it over and using it to complain about white males all day
>presidential candidates they don't agree with shouldn't have rights
>refugees
>mass protests that usually degrade into hate or looting of towns
>censorship
>ruin people's lives if they say something they disagree with or if the person disagrees with a certain ideology
should I go on or are you going to pass that off as they're "just a small number of extremists bro"?
>>331964705
pretty much, for everything he doesn't like btw making the whole thing a mere individual opinion
Did I accidentally walk into /pol/? I thought this was /v/.
>>331964491
>Perversion is put on a pedestal (LGBT+ people being a protected class)
I know what you mean, but at the same time, it's not like we can cure those people anyway. The whole problem is building a whole identity around this shit. I do have my perversions, but I'm not one to be letting everyone in the world know about it. At the same time, I wouldn't want to be treated like shit by everyone if some people got to know of them.
>>331964353
Golden Horde master race reporting in
>>331964784
>incorrect stats
The DoJ stats aren't incorrect, where are you getting this bullshit?
>Only in Murrica
It's other nations as well.
>>331964846
Oh no I've already countered your retardation, it's amazing how loose your definition of an SJW is now
>>331964842
>No, they have logical arguments.
What logical arguments?
>These are ridiculous strawmen intended to poison the well
Stop using "strawman" incorrectly, is that all you know how to say? That is in no way a strawman fallacy.
>>331964915
>ad hominem
>>331964676
>Why is it so hard to believe that profit motivates people to manipulate others?
The part that pushes it into conspiracy theorist territory is the part where this is supposedly institutionalised, that people all over the country are taught to think this way, in an institution teaching critical thinking of all things, and none of them catch on that there's nothing there and perpetuate the same supposedly fallacious reasoning.
When the alternative is that maybe you don't know what they're talking about because you don't share their academic background.
>>331964915
>BLM isn't SJW.
Anon please.
>>331964892
No it's not, in my country the divorce rate is at 25%
Literally any stat you have is about Murrica, not the rest of the world
And besides, I don't see how a couple of screaming bitches on the internet caused any of that. There's no real correlation and you know it.
>>331964915
>Already countered
>A third of the answers were "Fuck off"
>>331964842
>Says fact related to SJWs
>STRAWMAN!
>>331964842
>No, they have logical arguments.
You have presented none.
>These are ridiculous strawmen intended to poison the well
I don't think you understand what an SJW is.
>>331965015
It's a standard SJW deflection technique when their views are challenged.
>>331965015
Fuck off indeed, I'm still amazed by how anything is an SJW to you guys at this point
>>331964842
I don't think it's a straw man. Most SJWs do fit the criteria. Only a handful can actually back up their shit with something. You have to understand this is a movement that relies heavily on social groups for pressure, and most people aren't all that knowledgeable on it, they just get the basic ideas.
>>331964987
>The part that pushes it into conspiracy theorist territory is the part where this is supposedly institutionalised
It's literally signed into law. If that isn't institutional, then I don't know what is. I can't even fucking hire people who are best for my business because I will get sued so fucking hard I wont be profitable anymore.
You don't know what you're talking about.
>>331964660
Not really. Movies and TV were first viewed as pointless entertainment with no artistic value until people started to show what could be done with the medium. But like I said, it all doesn't have to be art and it all doesn't have to be treated as such.
>>331964705
SJW are the useful idiots that drive all this destruction.
I'm not exclusively talking about the SJW in gaming
>>331964784
>>muh blacks
>Oh fuck off
look up the gun homocide rates in america. look up who makes around 25% (?) of the population, yet perpetrates ~70& of all gun crime.
What conclusions you get from this is up to you, but statistics are not racist. I'm of the belief that this is mostly due to the welfare state and the education that makes blacks believe everything is actively working against them. inherent racial differences are mostly insignificant in this.
>>331965007
Yes?
America?
So if it happens somewhere you don't live, it doesn't count?
So those millions of people who live there just don't count?
>I don't see how a couple of screaming bitches on the internet caused any of that
I was more concerned with the accuracy of saying that single mothers and divorce rate stats.
They're accurate for the US.
Big country.
Though I'm curious why it doesn't count. Other than. "Murica."
>>331965148
> I'm of the belief that this is mostly due to the welfare state and the education that makes blacks believe everything is actively working against them. inherent racial differences are mostly insignificant in this.
Oh look, a correct person. Too bad you're a dirty fucking racist.
>>331964956
>What logical arguments?
I dunno, what are we talking about now? Racism exists? This is pretty broad m8.
>That is in no way a strawman fallacy.
It's misrepresenting a concept in order to attack it.
>>331965087
No, because this thread is dying and we're only talking in generalities and vagueness.
>I don't think you understand what an SJW is.
I don't think you do.
>>331965148
Ok but two things
1) That does not correlate to SJWs
2) Yes the majority of criminals are black, but are the majority of blacks criminal? Incidentally, nobody ever talks about that particular stat, I wonder why?
>>331965146
>It's literally signed into law.
But is it wrong?
You have to prove that something wrong was signed into law. Otherwise the system is working fine, there is no institutionalised wrongness, and you're the wrong idiot complaining about things you don't understand.
>>331964491
Spot on.
>>331964845
In reality that's what it boils down to.
>>331965231
>I dunno, what are we talking about now? Racism exists? This is pretty broad m8.
So now I have to supply your arguments. You know what, fuck you. You fucking suck.
>It's misrepresenting a concept in order to attack it.
But you won't explain how it's misrepresentative. Safe spaces are literally places that people (SJWs) can go to avoid facing things that challenge them. How is that not accurate??? You're either the best troll I've ever seen, or a future government employee.
>>331965252
>1) That does not correlate to SJWs
again, who enables this? look up "useful idiots" then youll understand what I mean.
>2) Yes the majority of criminals are black, but are the majority of blacks criminal?
not exactly sure what you're implying. Literally nobody is saying that all blacks are criminals.
Again, ~25% of the population commit ~70% of all gun crime in america. this speaks for itself
>>331965331
>because it's signed into law we can assume it's good until proven otherwise
That's not correct.
>>331965189
You still failed to present any of these stats
But still, if that problem only happens in a country then it's not a worldwide problem, simple as that
And you still fail to explain how any of that even correlates to a couple of hipsters on Twitter.
Face it: it doesn't.
Oh and if that single mothers shit only applies to Murrica it simply means that the whole propaganda about women being bad at parenting is false and the real issue is something else entirely
>>331965331
So you're completely ok with weed being illegal
>>331965331
>list reasons why something is wrong
>"but its not institutional!!!"
>explain how it's institutional
>"but it's not wrong! prove that it's wrong!!"
So now I have to objectively prove something is morally wrong? After you've provided zero counter-arguments to anything I've said and moved goal-posts the entire time. Go fuck yourself. You are a waste of will-infused-matter.
>>331965431
>a couple of hipsters on Twitter
A couple?
>>331951009
They just took every single one of their women employees for women's day. This picture is autistic. That wasn't to show how "progressive" they are"
>>331965148
There are literally hundreds of other factors that play into people committing crimes. It's not as simple as it being because of someone's race, you're oversimplifying it to fit your agenda.
>>331965365
>So now I have to supply your arguments.
Well yeah, you can't just say "SJWs are all wrong" and then expect me to guess what you think they're wrong about and explain it to you. Or if it's all of social justice, that's way too much to cover.
>Safe spaces are literally places that people (SJWs) can go to avoid facing things that challenge them. How is that not accurate???
Because that's not actually what they are? Safe spaces are intended for minorities to have a place of their own. It has nothing to do with ideology or opposing opinions or "challenge".
>>331965331
>But is it wrong?
He explained why and how it's wrong.
>>331963870
cuz the hambeasts and dyedhairs have call tried to crowd themselves into a visible spot in the picture while all the men are way in the back and don't really care.
even in the top pic, jade has to be front and center while the rest of the group just has their hands in their pockets waiting for the pic to be taken. but of course Jade needs to pose like she's the most important
>>331965426
It's also not what I said.
>>331965521
Nope.
>>331965524
>list reasons why something is wrong
Where was that again?
>>331965582
>It's not as simple as it being because of someone's race
Did you miss the part he says inherent racial traits are mostly insignificant? Stop attacking strawmen.
>>331965586
>Safe spaces are intended for minorities to have a place of their own
Segregation.
>>331965554
A couple, when compared to literally the whole fucking world population
>>331965380
>the majority of crimes are done by blacks, that is not because of shitty ghetto nigger culture, it's because of some guy with glasses and a beard protesting against police abusing power (which only happens in Murrica, in my country the police forces are actually competent)
>>331965586
that is not what safe spaces are used for you willfully ignorant retard
>>331965586
>Well yeah, you can't just say "SJWs are all wrong"
You've consistently ignored everything I've said, so why should I bother? You've presented zero arguments defending SJW's. You've claimed they have logical arguments, so lets fucking hear them. If not, you clearly just got rocked.
>>331965586
>It has nothing to do with ideology or opposing opinions or "challenge".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/03/24/someone-wrote-trump-2016-on-emorys-campus-in-chalk-some-students-said-they-no-longer-feel-safe/
>>331965609
>live with my single mother and my two brothers
>She works 50 hours a week
>Makes $115k a year
huh, never knew how lucky I was
>>331965692
>A couple, when compared to literally the whole fucking world population
ANYTHING will be insignificant when compared to the whole world population. It doesn't mean they have no leverage on affecting the real world.
>>331965586
>Safe spaces are intended for minorities to have a place of their own
Uh no, actually. That's not it at all. And if it were, that would be fucking racist. Jesus christ you are fucking stupid.
>>331965609
I think I got the why (the conspiracy theory), but now the how.
The thing is I'm not convinced on the why at all and if he can't prove the how then it doesn't even really matter. If people benefit from a good cause, I won't mind.
>>331965582
>There are literally hundreds of other factors that play into people committing crimes.
Like the overglorification of ghetto-culture? Or the tribalist mindset of black people? (ever heard of "oreos"?)
Like the demonization of "whiteness"?
You're the one projecting stuff on me, I never said its inherent to their genetics, just how the whole demographic is being treated. Blacks are obviously capable of breaking the cylce but a significant portion of the population will never leave the ghetto and welfare checks. You don't need a majority for something to be a problem, sometimes "enough" is enough
>>331965586
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/22/opinion/sunday/judith-shulevitz-hiding-from-scary-ideas.html
>>331965731
What are they used for then?
>>331965830
Explain then, explain how they caused any of that
So far you haven't
>>331965692
> that is not because of shitty ghetto nigger culture, it's because of some guy with glasses and a beard protesting against police abusing power
Its the ghetto culture AND the people who enable it. Europe has muslim ghettos now with terrorist cells in it, the police knows that but cant do anything against it.
>>331965903
what the guy just fucking said
>so they don't have to hear other opinions
god damn you are a fucking retard
>lelelelel they for minorities even though whites use them the most
>>331965916
How about forcing games to adopt their political agenda, which is the whole fucking point of the thread?
>>331965860
>conspiracy theory
It isn't a conspiracy or a theory. It's all facts.
>the how
Federal hiring quotas based on race. That is affirmative action. You must hire a certain number of people in your business if it's a certain size of a certain minority.
That is the law.
He explained why. There's no conspiracy or anything wrong with his explanation and you didn't counter it.
>>331965860
Explain to me how it's beneficial to the majority to keep peopled locked in poverty cycles and fucking up actual businesses run by working people? Do you know that affirmative action doesn't even help the people it's targetted at?
>>331953485
Celebrating womens day is treating people not as equals
>>331966042
>Explain to me how it's beneficial to the majority to keep peopled locked in poverty cycles
they rely on goverment handouts = easy votes
>>331966013
Wanting more niggers in a game has got shit to do with ''having a political agenda'', it's just people who unironically give a shit about a character's race
>>331965682
>Voluntary seclusion is now segregation
>>331965731
It is you wilfully ignorant retard
>>331965749
I can't just give out a logical argument in general when we're not talking about anything in particular.
>>331965790
I can honestly understand feeling threatened by Trump supporters. But the only reference to "safe spaces" seems to be from people complaining about these students complaining.
>>331965841
>It's racist to give minorities a place where they aren't always drowned out by the majority
>>331965872
>Safe space for rape victims
Those fucking sluts should be more open to the opinions of rape apologists, I guess?
>>331965860
>If people benefit from a good cause
Do you believe that people should be hired base on merits to the job instead of race?
HINT:
Saying "no" is racism, categorically.
>>331966105
while true, that doesn't actually benefit anyone except politicians. It doesn't even benefit the people getting hand-outs, not in the long run at least.
>>331951009
>Game comes out that is 100% gameplay and nothing else
>/v/ hates it for a new arbitrary reason
Make up your minds.
>>331966201
thats my point actually, sorry i didnt follow the conversation
>>331965673
So why is he implying that it's because they are black?
>>331951009
why are those women all making retarded faces at the camera?
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