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Holy shit I'm playing this for the first time and I swear to god I can hear them screaming in the distance even with the game shut down

What sadistic bastard came up with these guys and the Kleer? Fuck.
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>>331757379
That's what good enemy design looks like.
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>>331757379

Shit was epic with properly setup 5.1 surround sound.
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Kamikaze was actually voiced by Croteam CEO. I'm serious here. He also came up with Serious Sam name.
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>>331757994
It's one of the rare games where having a good sound setup will have an effect on your skills.
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>>331758714
>that last level of SS3
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>>331758762
Shit got so fucking real.
Bar far the best final level in franchise history.
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>>331758824
by far*
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>That Babylonian level in Second Encounter with nearly 1000 Kleers but you got the cannon.
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>>331758714
I swear, every time I hear drums in this game I can't help but think I'm surrounded by Kleers
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>mfw SS4 is ANOTHER fucking prequel
>mfw it's a fucking prequel to a prequel (prequel do SS3)
JUST GIVE US MENTAL'S HOME FUCKING PLANET ALREADY
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>>331758824
>Bar far the best final level in franchise history.

Did you play second encounter mate?
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>>331759109
I did.
The final level is shit in comparison to both SS1's final level and SS3's final level.
Didn't play SS2 though but I prefer to pretend it doesn't exist. So does Croteam.
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>>331759086
But they gave it to us in SS2 :^)
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>>331759086
>JUST GIVE US MENTAL'S HOME FUCKING PLANET ALREADY

But the steaming shit that was 2 already did that.

He wasn't home.
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It is literally Takahata101.
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>>331759086
So it's going to be
Serious Sam 4: the events that happened before the events that happened in first encounter

I might have screwed that up.
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>>331759086
SS2 already did that :^)
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>>331759165
>>331759183
Fuck, really? Didn't play 2 since I know it's shit and the art style was cancer.

But jesus fucking christ I just want to fuck up Mental's shit already.
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>read this thread
>it's slowly coming back to me
>reach the end of the thread
>all I can hear now is
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https://youtu.be/RQMCAdMadMY
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>>331759316
I prefer the Phantom of the Pink Floyd Echoes Opera myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BG1wtCdnEU
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>yfw seeing this colossal motherfucker for the first time
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>>331759159
>TFE
Jump around in an arena for half an hour, then run to pyramid and literally jump through hoops to defeat the boss.

>TSE
A large corridor with clever enemy placement, including ones that spawn behind you just to catch you off guard, long final battle with meteorite shower all around you and a pushover boss.

>3
A large corridor with a shitton of not so cleverly placed enemies and a gimmicky pushover boss.

TSE was designed better, though the sheer amount of enemies in SS3 one was something to behold.
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>tfw Serious Saturdays with /v/ is dead
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>SS:BFE
>It's a prequel
>people seriously think BFE stands for anything other before first encounter
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i dont know what level it was, but it felt like a gauntlet and you have all weapons and you JUST have to fucking plow through waves, hundreds of kleers, big assholes with rocket launchers and if you dont take them out quickly enough/ have a good strafe game you're doomed the second the kleers get close
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http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Aaaaaaaaa
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>Never played a Serious Sam game
>Play 3 on Serious

This is some serious shit, I'm getting my ass handed to me.
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Serious Sam 4: BBFE - Before, Before First Encouter
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>>331759435
Fucking Cucktain.
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>>331759496
Play First Encounter and Second Encounter HD next.
They're on the same engine.
3 is a prequel.
First Encounter is directly where BFE ends.
You still fucked up since you should've played TFE first, now you missed out on all the fucking subtle and less subtle references to it in BFE.
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>nobody posted the best song yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxpplBFjG1Q
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4LCfJ1Kamo
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Moon in Serious Sam 3 is actually in the skybox on the later levels, gradually increasing in size.
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>Jewel of the Nile
>Five Khnums and the Giant Scrapjack
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>The First Encounter
>Lol but there's one before that ;)
>jk actually one before THAT one too :PPP

REEEEE
JUST GIVE ME A SEQUEL ALREADY
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>>331759852
>Throw C4 until it dies

Giant Scrapjack sucked, even in comparison to other SS bosses. No idea why Croteam can't into them, regular enemies and enemy encounters are designed near perfectly.
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>>331759638

Will do, though honestly, I'm still pretty early into BFE, that and it's been awhile since I played.

In that case, should I just say fuck 3 for now and play TFE?
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>>331759852
The AI programs messages and arguments are the best. Especially everything doing with robots arguing what is human.
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>>331759425
>start unloading on it
>Drop it to 1/5 hp
>It starts healing back faster than you can damage it
The fucks the points of giving it a health bar if you can't kill it yet.
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How do they target Sam if they're headless? How do they scream?
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>>331760125
They scream from their necks.
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>>331759956
The amusing thing is that he actually works just like the normal ones.
Get close enough until the C4 marker appears and your charge will grow in size when thrown, making him go down in like five charges.
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>>331760107
to ":^)" you. Those Croatians are masters of it. Didn't you see the 1hp pill in the middle of the room?
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adding sprint in 3 was a mistake
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Imo SS1 is fairly overrated. The level design is almost all flat open maps with mobs for the whole game. Enemy design is also mostly uninspired and the gunplay isn't nearly satisfying enough or gives enough variation to excuse the same arena you have to clear out 100 times. Didn't hate it, but I'd take the old Wolfensteins, Painkiller or Doom over it any day.
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>>331760125
https://youtu.be/FEs7Msp7nsg

A simpleton like you wouldn't get it
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>>331758948
>and you have at least 3 bros killing the bastards with you
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>Sam's voice DLC for TTP
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>>331759435
Just look up Serious Saturdays with /v/ 2.0. Twice the fun but the downside is twice the Autism.
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>>331760217
That's exactly how I defeated him. Do you mean it's a bug? That nigger has so much HP otherwise I figured it was the intended way.
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>>331760293
You can't really compare Wolfenstein and Doom to Serious Sam.
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>>331760285
You can just unbind the button. There's even a cheevo.
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>>331760230
>see suspiciously placed 1 hp or 1 armor
>try to resist urge to pick it up
>pick it up anyway
>fight 100 of suddenly spawning enemies
>lose at least 50 hp
>it was still totally worth it
god damn those games were fun
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>>331760293
>Enemy design is also mostly uninspired
Enemies are designed almost perfectly, especially in terms with overall weapon balance. Serious Sam is one of the few shooters where I can safely say pretty much every single weapon is useful to some degree, and choosing the right tool for the job is half the battle. The other half is evading enemies. That's what makes Serious Sam so great. It's balanced near perfectly.
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>>331758824

I agree, fuck that gorge section has to be one of the best moment in a fps.

When enemies start to arrive then midfight you manage to look down the gorge and the thing is chock full of enemies out to get your ass, a whole motherfucking army of them.

And to think I was about to write it off after the first 3 levels.
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>>331760318
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-7iKcDkgvI

We posting Croteam "masters of Marketing" videos?
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>>331760392
>Sam complaining about Egypt again
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>>331760392
>mfw he flips his shit when you enter the Egypt episode

I haven't even played the game with the normal voice, Sam as narrator is perfection.
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>>331760472
>Without aiming
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>>331760616
>Advanced Algorithm Advantage
>A. A. A.
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>>331760560
Kamikazes and skelly monsters were good.
But don't tell me you think the stationary scorpions, green balls launchers and the headless guys who launch fireballs interesting.
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>>331758762
>1760 enemy units
>Took my dumb ass just shy of an hour to complete it on normal

I'm too casual for this shit. Sure I'm glad I finished it but while I was in the middle of it I was legitimately frustrated for that last twenty minutes.
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>>331760674
>Sam DLC for TTP is currently 90% off for next hour
Oh shit, I'm glad you people mentioned it.
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>>331760392
It was fucking incredible

"Dance for me, monkey!"
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>>331757379
https://youtu.be/dDetHKMAlE8?t=5m42s
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>>331760616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSAfaajKeUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3c4bJni8-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqOS85W07t0
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>>331759991
Just finish 3 since you already started it.
It's not like it has spoilers.
You should never play any fucking videogame series out of release order though.
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I actually have fond memories of SS2, but that was when I could play local co-op with 3 friends. But it was nowhere as fun as second encounter. That gem will never stop shining.
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>>331760847
>Arachnoids
High priority enemies to dispatch with hitscan weapons or rockets (since they can be stunned).

>Reptiloids
Medium priority enemies with projectiles that can be dodged or shot down, use lasers or rockets.

>Basic beheaded
Basic grunts, cannon fodder.

All SS enemies fulfill a specific niche and serve their own purpose. That's one of the reasons SS2 sucked so much: too many redundant shit.
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>>331757379
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>>331761014
Rich Knuckles commercials were the best thing ever. I probably enjoyed them more than the Kevin Butler videos.
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>>331760616
>Fou and one half pounds and now I can see my bin'ness again

That line and that missed throw gets me every time
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>>331760293
>. Enemy design is also mostly uninspired
Enemy design is fucking amazing.
>old Wolfensteins
Wolf 3D is kind of shit shit. PK is style-over-substance. Doom is good, though.
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>>331760293
SS:FE is alright.
SS:SE expands on it positively in every imaginable way
SS:BFE takes out a massive amount of the expansion that SE did and adds random shit that doesn't benefit the game at all.
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>>331760710
Serious Sam 3 has iron sights for some guns.
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>>331761320
TFE still has my favorite enemy placement and battles. TSE felt too random at times.

>>331761423
Iron sights on one gun and reflex sight on another.
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>>331760569
The game is great with that ruse start that makes you think it's another shitty modern shooter when it's in fact a parody of one in those first levels.
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Is it just me or does Serious Sam: Revolution have some serious mouselag?
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>>331760125
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>>331760125
Some bullshit device that keeps them alive.
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>>331761536
>Fan content
>Expecting them to know how to optimize

I've only seen Goldscr people being able to do that.
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Where to start with serious sam, 1?
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>>331761536
Don't play that shit, HD exists.
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>>331761734
TFE:HD, TSE:HD, (optional 2), 3:BFE.
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>>331761734
First Encounter HD
Then Second Encounter HD
If you own both, you can play entirety of First Encounter HD in Second Encounter HD engine.
Then DLC for Second Encounter HD.
Then Serious Sam 3
Then DLC for Serious Sam 3
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>>331761762
I already played them and I wanted to play the originals this time. Atleast I got both TFE and TSE when I bought the Revolution version, maybe these work better.
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>>331761734
>>331761791
>>331761828
Also for next 45 minutes all games are 90% off.
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>>331761891
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>>331761883
Then play the "Classic" ones.
Revolution is a shitty fanmod.
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>>331761734
You could also do it in story order

BFE, TFE,dlc ,TSE,dlc, 2.

Playing BFE first will let you appreciate how good TFE and TSE are compared to it and then 2 will make you want to kill yourself.
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>>331761828
Should I be playing TFE in TSE engine? I don't know the differences
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>>331762028
Differently colored HUD is the only difference.
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>>331762006
BFE's dlc also.
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>Serious Sam on sale
>Serious Sam DLC for Talos on sale
>Talos is NOT on sale
Well fuck you too Croteam, I ain't buying it until it drops to -75%, I'm a poorfag.

>>331762028
TSE and TFE run on theoretically the same engine but TSE has some slight visual and performance updates under the hood and the HUD has different color.
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>People recommending the HD version of SS:TSE when a ton of the funky physics extras are removed because the new engine can't do them.

Have fun not fighting in a rotating corridor with biomechs spawning on the roof.
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>>331762104
Talos Principle was on 75% at the beginning of the month.
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>>331761985
Yeah OK I get it. You'd think a fanmod endorsed by the publisher would improve the old games, guess this is an exception. Whatevs, TFE and TSE for 1 buck.
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>>331762006
BFE is great though and in some way definitely better than TFE and TSE
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Headless kamikaze are not that bad. This sound, however, will haunt your dreams forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75e7CSapztU
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OP here, why are you guys so down on 2? Was it a different team or something?
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>>331762213
It was made initially as Xbox (the first one, XboxHuge) exclusive and suffers from technical limitations of said platform.
Smaller levels.
Less enemies.
Cartoony art style due to XboxHuge not being powerful enough for realistic detailed textures.
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>>331762190
What the fuck? Please explain yourself because I can't believe what I've just read.
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>>331762213
No its just terrible and have a very cartoony style in both story and presentation.
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>>331762190
I enjoy BFE, but the city areas and underground parts make it a dull drag until the second half.

The final level though is the best map in any Serious Sam game
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>>331762306
Destructible environment
Second half of the game has great level design
The most enemies on screen in the series
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>>331762306
Not him, but BFE has the best sounding and feeling weapons, the way they feel in originals is pretty shit (and I agree that TFE/TSE are better games overall). Some setpieces are nice, some enemy designs/redesigns are REALLY nice too. Devastator is cool and I like the rifle/minigun ammo split.
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>>331762213
I think it's because 2 went with more of a comedic and cartoony style. Personally I liked it but I still prefer both Encounters and BFE.
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>>331762306
Best weapon design
Best audio
Second half of the game is amazing
Best final level and best final boss (as a whole, not just the big boss enemy)
Level destruction
Biggest number of enemies on screen in the series
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>>331762445
Kleer homeworld was pretty neato I'll give it that.
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Just pick me up, Anon.
Come on.
Don't you want to be ~h e a l t h y~ ?
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>>331762519
>Best final level
Guardian of Time is so underrated, it's a pretty bad level compared to both Cathedral and Pyramid. I agree on the rest, though.
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if the Kamikaze's had heads what would they look like?
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>>331762646
>Guardian of Time is so underrated
overrated*
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Should I get the complete pack on sale for $10 on steam?

Never played any serious Sam game but I like playing the old classics
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>tfw first time in this level
>enemy spawns behind me
>music starts playing
>almost shit pants
Why is the atmosphere so great?https://youtu.be/qIO5TM3WKFA
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>>331762213
2K wanted Croteam to make Sam what he wasn't made to be
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>>331762810
Yes.
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>Join SS Saturdays /v/ group
>It's nothing but faggots speedrunning the whole thing/spouting dank memes/ and trying to boot everyone
All of y'all are faggots.
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>>331762810
Buy this. You will be glad you did so.
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>>331762919
>Interacting with /v/irgins outside of /v/
What the fuck were you expecting?
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>>331762919
That's every /v/ group. I know, it's horrible.
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>>331762810
Yes but play the HD versions.
No real reason to play the originals other than seeing what they looked like.
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>>331762919
The group isn't that bad once people get to know you, but yeah alot of particular members are autistic in the booting process and alot of people actually in the group get booted from the server.
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>>331762359
>Destructible environment
Oooooooooooooooooooh, much new gen, many advance

>Second half of the game has great level design
Aside from the canyon and oasis, fuck no. Every other SS game including SS2 is better in that regard.

>The most enemies on screen in the series
Doesn't necessarily mean better. Speaking of enemies, fuck the Technopolyp and Witchbitch.

>>331762420
Not him, but BFE has the best sounding and feeling weapons, the way they feel in originals is pretty shit (and I agree that TFE/TSE are better games overall). Some setpieces are nice, some enemy designs/redesigns are REALLY nice too. Devastator is cool and I like the rifle/minigun ammo split.

Assault Rifle sounds like a Jackhammer, Devastator is a casualized faster Rocket Launcher, ammo split is fucking useless because you'll get enough ammo for every weapon. Shotgun looks like a nerf gun, Sniper and Laser are hidden (thank god JOTN DLC makes them regular weapons). I do think that SS3 is a great looking game but most of the locals are just so boring.

Don't get me wrong, BFE can be loads of fun but it doesn't compare to the first two games. Hell, I think that that SS2 is a better game despite its own shortcomings.
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>>331762632
>that one pill in memphis suburbs that spawns 4 mechs right on top of you while also trapping you
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>>331762898
>>331762964
>>331763032
Thanks anons. Will do.
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>>331757865
>every enemy can be identified by sound
Serious Sam gets me rock hard.
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>>331763153

>NEE HE HE HE!
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>>331763147
>Assault Rifle sounds like a Jackhammer
I had to read this sentence like 3 times because I associate Jackhammer with that one shotgun that never made it past prototype. Anyway, AR wasn't the highlight of the game, but it's above most original weapons sound and animation wise. Fucking pistols in TFE/TSE with their wooden animations and stupid models.
>Devastator
Is a very different gun from RL - you don't get infinite ammo for it, for one.
>ammo split is fucking useless because you'll get enough ammo for every weapon
You actually don't, minigun ammo is semi-rare until later levels and runs dry pretty easily. Compare to TFE/TSE, where you'll be firing your minigun through most of the later parts of the game (except for those times you actually want to switch to cannon). And the minigun actually looks and feels great in BFE!
>shotgun
It sucked, but it always was a weapon with a really weird niche.
>sniper
Devastator IS the new sniper. It even gets a scope if you preordered or bought a full pack.
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>>331763153
This one?
https://youtu.be/lgMdfqS4o8Q
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>>331763557
Nah, that's the yodeler secret, the one I wrote about is right next to it in the corner.
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>>331760851
And so is the FE/SE bundle, the one with both original and HD versions.
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More like every game in the series.
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> the area that separates the mediocre from the good part of the game is a barely visible soccer field
> Croteam's first major game was Football Glory

Coincidence?
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>>331763523
Animations are "better" compared to older SS games but still lacking in visual feedback / recoil.

I honestly can't tell the difference between the Devastator and Rocket Launcher, aside from faster grenades, which are a necessity for dealing with these retarded Technopolyphs. It's just redundant. The old GL required you to gauge distances and it let you cover the field with grenades so that enemies would run into them as you are running backwards. And I'm not a fan of the Rocket supply chests. It makes almost every other weapon useless if you're fighting enemies near it.

I honestly never run out of Minigun ammo. Then again I always hoard it so fair enough.

I don't have a problem with the shotgun being weak, it complements the weapon roaster just fine. I just hate the crappy weapon model and especially the idiotic reload animation.
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>>331763153
that's nothing.
>that lonely palm at the beginning of the temple of Hatsheput in TFE
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>>331764641
Devastator has rare ammo, bigger damage, faster projectiles and less splash (but splash is not really relevant in SS unless we're talking C4. RL is your basic tool, Devastator is more of a luxury gun.

The comparison to Sniper if actually very apt because it pretty much IS the sniper rifle from TSE damage-wise, except sniper was also hitscan and did even more damage, one-shotting bulls and those not-mancubi guys (Zumbuls?).

I have to go, sorry, probably won't reply.
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>>331764641
>I honestly can't tell the difference between the Devastator and Rocket Launcher

rocket launcher:
- fires slow moving rockets
- ammo crates
- that's about it

devastator:
- fires fast grenade shells
- can pierce weaker enemies in a row
- has to be reloaded
- has a scope
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>>331764895
But the Biomechanoids are so easy to avoid.
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>Find this thread
>Hit up steam
>Sale ends right as I get to the purchase window
Well shit
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>>331765302
You can always buy Evolve :^)
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>>331764961
I barely notice these differences during gameplay unless I have to fight Technopolyphs (faster projectiles), that's why the Devastator feels absolutely redundant. And it's just not as fun as the oldschool GL to use.

See you, senpai.
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>>331765302
Shucks. I guess you'll have to wait for a month or so for a new sale then.
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>>331765569
Mechanoids can dodge rockets in SS3. Doesn't work with Devastator.
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>>331765685
I was a few cents short, but got kek'd by Valve forcing everyone to use their mobile authenticator.
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>>331765419
>>331765685
I guess I'll just buy Bubsy then
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I want sassy Nectrisa entries from TFE and TSE back
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As many problems as ss2 had it was the only game to actually get the single shotgun right, that thing was amazing.
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>>331757379
Every time its the Kleer people complain about

These fuckers are the real evil, guaranteed damage no matter what
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>>331757379
i recently played it for the first time as well, and you're just a pussy
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>>331768540
HUEHUEHUHEUEUE
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>>331768540
>every night I fight the urge to sleep
>because every time I do I dream
>a nightmare
>I'm taken back
>to THAT room
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Serious Sam is boring. Play Painkiller.
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>>331768540
>circle bunny hopping strafing with the Tommy gun
>hard
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>>331768825
There's a simple trick to it. Just stand in a corner, when frogs start falling onto you go to a different corner. It worked even on serious difficulty.
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>>331768856
Painkiller
>Ragdolls

Serious Sam
100+ Enemies every minute
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>>331769045
You'll still take damage. Less damage, but still.
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>>331761014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEUy_lNTtHI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcib0VvziXM
KRUNDLE BLIND
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>>331769270
Doesn't make it better.
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>still no SS4 footage
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>>331769713
is that nigga the shop keeper from dota 2
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>>331769270
Hey man, Painkiller has the most dangerous enemy in video game history.
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>>331769926
kek'd
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>>331757379
No matter how many times I played it this game was always too hard for me, and I only play Normal. I always give in to savescumming by the time I'm in Luxor. How do you motherfuckers deal with it on Serious?
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>>331770489
you get serious
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Which painkiller do I play?
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>>331770639
Painkiller: Black Edition
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>>331770639
Also play on Nightmare difficulty first.
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>>331759439
missed opportunity to call it ss:bfg
big fucking gun
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>>331768540
Not in Second Encounter, all thanks to the Chainsaw. That thing basically made the shotguns redundant because it even handled Kleers better than the shotguns ever could (moreso in the HD version, where the Kleers had a smaller hitbox)

Not that the shotgun were ever good in FE, SE and BFE. Only time it was great was in Serious Sam 2, where it was stupidly strong.
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>>331770489
Try going up to hard, see if you can beat the games on it. For TFE and TSE you'll really want to disable autosaves. The games have a really, really bad habit of making them at the worst possible moments. Fuck autosaves.

How do I deal with Serious? knowing is half the battle. Seriously. First run, I savescummed like mad and died a lot. Once I got a good idea of when and where the enemies come from, and what they are, it got a hundred times easier.

My way of getting gud involved beating a Sam game multiple times on Serious, trying to beat a level with less and less quicksaves (because as I said before, fuck autosaves) until I managed to beat the levels without dying.

Oh yeah, you might wanna make sure autojump is off. That shit can get you killed.

>>331770697
Black Edition. It has the original game and Battle out of Hell. When people talk about loving Painkiller, they talk about the original. Battle out of Hell really ranges in quality despite only have 10 levels, some of the levels suck (Colosseum), others are GOAT (Leningrad).
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>>331758948
How much Kleers in the kleer's alley in TFE?
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>>331760392
>TTP
what's that?
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>>331771738
I liked Colosseum and hated Leningrad :^)
But I agree, BooH was kinda shitty. Nothing new and worse level design.
You replied to a wrong guy btw
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>>331760616
>PASGETTI
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>>331772408
Yeah, just notice.

And man, fuck the card condition in Leningrad. Hard as balls condition for the one of the worst cards in the game.
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>>331772375
The Talos Principle
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>>331762193
when that moment happened i was playing with friends and the three of us thought they would fall as a joke
oh boy were we wrong. fun times.
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>>331772913
Me on the left.
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>>331772913
me on the right
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>>331757379
>all those secrets and eastereggs
I love shit like this, especially if its hidden well.
>that bobblehead graveyard

Nowadays it's just collecting textfiles and audiologs.
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>>331773173
>The fucking bobbleheaded devs where even the reason TSE existed, story-wise.
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>>331773790
>They took the cutscene out of TSE HD
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>>331772913
gameboy hot pocket
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>>331773985
Did they take out their crashed bus as well then?
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>>331771738
>Colosseum
That's the one with that trap corridor, right? It was the only bad part of the level and I'm pretty sure you can just tank it even on hardest difficulty. The city and the exploding zombies was far worse
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>>331774194
I think the bus is still there, which just raises further questions.
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>>331760616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9-OW_CXdEc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj_SZEzKpH8
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>>331774294
I just found it really dull. Dead City was pretty great.
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>there are people that prefer duke nukem 3D to serious sam

y
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>>331774496
2 completely different games.
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Do these games still hold up if I never played them before? Also, is there a decent story to them, or is it just you dropped into a level and you kill everything and move on to the next level with little to no context?
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>>331774972
Yes.

Yes.
>>
The Dunes fight music:

Dun dun dun dun dun dun don don
Dun dun dun dun dun dun don don
Doobydoobydoobydeedoo
Doobydoobydoobydeedoo

And then the approaching kamikaze horde:
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh!
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>>331774972
Yes, and yes. There is some basic lore that you can read between levels and whenever you analyze objects.
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>>331774972
Basic story with cutscenes in single for tfe and tse but 2 and bfe have cutscenes online also.

Solo Serious Sam isn't for everyone so I would recommend you form a group to play with or find a group that plays like Serious Saturdays etc.
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>>331774972
There's an overarching story. But's its mostly in a Mario "go save the princess" or Doom "defeat all the demons" sense.
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>>331775332
>>331775380
>>331775387
Serious Sam has the deepest lore, you casuals.
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>>331775387
>>331775380
>>331775332
>>331775270

I'll probably play it with my friend / roommate tonight. So, just start with regular Serious Sam vanilla, or is there an end all be all version I should play?
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>>331775621
Vanilla is fine.
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>>331774972
There is actually a story and before and during the levels you get some infos for why you are there and why you have to to go to the next place but it never gets in the way of the gameplay itself.

It also has a surprising amount of lore.
The main antagonist for example is nothing more than a carrot on a stick that after all this years still hasn't been shown outside of his arm in a non-canon game and yet his wiki-page is almost stupidly long:
http://serioussam.wikia.com/wiki/Mental

And speaking of stupidly long, here's the backstory of the games:
http://www.seriouszone.com/ssgold/festory.php
All you really need to know from that wall of text is "Sam", "Mental", "Time Lock" and "Revolver".
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>>331775621
TFE and TSE are fine as they are.
It's highly recommended to play SS3:BFE with the Enhanced mod (adds tons of new stuff to the game and combines the DLC with the main game), classic Kamikaze and Rocketeer stats mods and perhaps the no-reloading mod.
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Awesome, thanks champs. Gonna get this shit and rev up those good times.
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>>331776045
>Enhanced mod
Does it make the sniper and the laser gun non "super obscure hidden weapons"?
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How about Duke Nukem?
>>
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>331776730
What about him? I don't much care much for him after that tasteless joke he did after the not!Olsen twins died
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5PqmwOs_e0

> yfw when WAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRR
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>>331776525
it does
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>>331777173
Undercode from TSE was better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkTnXPmsL8k
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>>331757379
>pathfinding goes wrong
>can hear muffled aaa?s
>>331758762
it was like the deathstar trench run
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>>331776730
If that "Glorious Bastard" comic is anything to go by then Duke as a character can still work in this time and age.
It's just that DNF was both, extremely poorly written and completely outdated and hearing random and out of context Don Hertzfeld references in 2011 is simply unbelievable.
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>>331757379
>Kleer
Literally circlestrafe them

>Kamikazes
Shoot them before they reach you. Which is fine if it's ONLY them.

But when you've got Werebulls screening the Kamikazes, you are in some sheeit.

Fun fact: With proper timing and abuse of the way the AI gets locked into animations, you can defeat a Reptiloid Highlander with your knife, without it hitting you in melee.
It's harder in SE than in FE because in SE they can attack while moving, but it's still doable.
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>>331759435
>mfw i got kicked out of that group for griefing
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>>331758762

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5JqLwyI70w
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>>331759430
Doing the final run to the pyramid, on serious, Knife Only, was some of the most intense shit I've ever done.

>Jerp how can defeat red mech with knife
If you've only got 2 it's easy - get them in a line, so the front bodyblocks the back's shots. Jump towards the front one when it fires its missiles at you (it fires its missiles AT you, so being off the floor means they won't hit you with the splash), slash it once or twice, retreat, and jump towards it again when it fires at you.

You can even knife fight Beheaded Kamikazes with proper terrain - though it's less of a knife fight and more of a terrain abuse because they'll blow up if they get close enough to you, even if there's a wall between them and you.
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>>331769926
FUCK THAT
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>>331765569
Wow, thread is still alive! Apart from mechanoids being able to dodge rockets (which another poster already mentioned), if you shoot Khnums with the RL, they do that fast shoot-dodge which is damn hard to avoid and with the damage Khnums do that is lethal. Plus, you need to reload it.

Personally, I think it's more of a sniper replacement (I'm repeating myself, I know), and GL, which was useful but not very exciting, was replaced by C4, which feels really fun to use. Though I guess C4 is also a bit of a Serious Bomb?
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>>331768739
>jump in the water
>these fags start gang-raping you
>jump out
>they jump out too and continue the fun
why Croteam why
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>>331772890
>>331772375
Puzzle game. You fuck about with forcefields, lasers, fans, boxes, buttons, jammers, level hazards, and a record-and-playback-to-co-op-with-yourself mechanic.

Also has some EPIC xD TOTALLY IMMERSIVE xD ROLEPLAYING xD about what is consciousness, what is human, what is free will, what is truth, and on how the physical limits of the human (or robot) body affects your ability to think about things.
I mostly just ignored it because it's all herp derp irrelevant shit.
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>>331779478
are you autistic
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>>331779352
Actually if you fire the rocket launcher at close range the Khnum won't do the dodge thing.

Though at that range you're better off sticking C4 on it.
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>>331779847
Yes.
I liked the puzzles.
Didn't like the roleplaying.
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>>331771738
>For TFE and TSE you'll really want to disable autosaves.
What? Doing those using autosaves only is fun!

>>331780004
Well, but if I fire the RL at close range at a Khnum I'm in close combat with a Khnum. That's not a thing I'd like to do!
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>>331779478
I also disliked the "deep philosophical story" part and played it with Sam voice. It made a great comedy game.

However Road to Gehenna has a pretty good story, in my opinion, I liked it way more.
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>pssst
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>>331780019
do you even know what roleplaying means?
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>Deadlocked/Gladiator
>Not a pun

and that's why you are the black sheep.
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>>331780270
Woah, you replied to two of my posts.

Maybe it was just me but the games had a really annoying habit of saving at really inconvenient times and because the game stops for a moment while autosaving, I ended up taking damage that I could've avoided.
Also if you want real fun try doing it without any saves. Makes beating levels a lot more satisfying and really encourages you to git gud.

Being in close quarters with a Khnum isn't as bad as it sounds. If you've got enough C4 (takes 3 blocks to kill one) then it's as good as dead. If not, it's just a matter of running, firing rockets/devastator shells (because the cannon would make it kinda trivial) and knowing how to dodge their attacks.
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>>331780886
>Also if you want real fun try doing it without any saves.
Nah, I'm not serious enough for that. I spend 20-50 tries on some checkpoints!
>If you've got enough C4 (takes 3 blocks to kill one) then it's as good as dead.
I tend to misjudge C4 radius and blow myself up with the Khnum in the process.
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>>331781070
Just detonate it when there isn't a C4 indicator on the screen. If the Khnum is chasing you just keep running, after a while it will start charging his fireball attack which is when you want to detonate the C4 and stick another block on it. If you didn't know, you can stick two blocks on it at once so hopefully you'll only need to do the running thing once.
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>>331781567
Well, that's probably fine with one Khnum, but if there are several I really prefer ranged options. Especially if it's Khnums + Kleers, like in the last level of BFE - a deadly kombo.
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>>331781721
Yeah, that wave was fucking nasty. Kept me away from getting Queen Hatshepsut for a long time.
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>>331781839
I think I could've done it, but what really stops me is the boss. I really don't like jetpack controls and it seems so random overall. Getting through all that shit only to die in the final battle would suck so much.
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>>331782006
But final boss is the easiest part of the level.

>Jetpack has a charge and momentum
>Don't let it overcharge
That's all there is to it.
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>>331757865
what is the lore behind them tho.
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