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A HUMAN REAPER?!
>>331737912
So forced.
Even the Collectors collecting enough human material for one reaper to fight back...
So forced....
My coach said, never force the shot.
Woah. Freezeframe. This is my life right now. How did I end up here? Yeah I'll tell you, but we're gonna have to go alllll the way bac kto the start...
>>331737912
>Renegade line: "This thing is too big for our guns"
>proceed to destroy it with their guns
>destroy base
>ALL the system blows up
>ME3
>Hey, Cerberus here, remember that Reaper baby? Well, he's here!
>>331738076
Proceeds to go to the point of Shepard dying "whoops! Not that far back!,"
>>331739320
Who gave you the bomb that blew up the base?
I never quite understood the whole Human-Reaper thing in Mass Effect.
Just why?
Why did the Reapers want to create one, why did they need human slushie DNA, why is a giant skeletal giant better than fly space bugs?
>>331737912
>A HUMAN REAPER?!
*fade to black*
THREE MONTHS EARLIER....
>>331739417
And why do all of the other reapers look that same yet this cycle they wanted to model it after the harvested species
>>331739417
Because humans are special. HUMANS BE DA MAN. That's why in ME3 earth is major important. Never mind that complete and utter lack of logic keeps it quite safe.
Man, Mass Effect was a fucking amazing series
>>331739514
It is pretty damn amazing how long after its release it still sparks controversy.
Just goes to show how much potential they wasted. It was a fairly generic concept, but man...
just beat this, that was the worst ending i've ever seen
just shitposting on /v/ until ME3 finishes installing
>>331739682
So you're eager for an even worse ending? Why? Never mind that most of ME3 is garbage.
>>331739497
I don't get it.
>>331739682
>that was the worst ending i've ever seen
>until ME3 finishes installing
Anon, I...
>>331739497
>Because humans are special. HUMANS BE DA MAN
Basically this I remember hearing some hidden voices of Harbinger going through the races and stating why they are or aren't fit. Only humans were deemed a "viable possibility". It was on Youtube as apart of some indoctrination theory video that I can't find anymore. I remember one of the lines was
>TURIANS: Inviable possibility, you are considered..... too primitive
>>331739849
Someone (whom /v/ probably hates, so I'm not gonna post it) laid out in detail why humans are actually stupidly inferior to Asari in the goddamn main plot point of ME2.
>>331739417
>>331739464
There was a lot that got changed and cut as time went on. The reapers weren't all supposed to look the same, and the whole dark energy sub plot was supposed to actually go somewhere.
>>331739514
i miss karen gillen
I think I'm going to install Mass Effect again tomorrow. Does anyone know if the frame rates are capped at 60 or will they go higher?
>>331739940
Doesn't really matter with the first game. Since it's a console port, more or less.
https://web.archive.org/web/20130120045453/http://www.holdtheline.com/threads/me2-writer-chris-letoile-on-the-ai-characters-and-the-reapers.4229/
>what could have been
>>331739940
I am currently doing this, I know it won't end well but it's nice to see the world again
>>331739910
please post it, i want to read it
>>331740051
>we will never get the Mass Effect that was meant to be
Shitty Contra reference.
>>331740334
Not with that attitude.
>>331739514
it's my fav game family
>>331740334
not this year, but next year OH BOY !
>>331740590
I can't wait for my hopes and dreams to be crushed YET AGAIN! Fuck Bioware and fuck vidjya gams.
>Needs a whole new galaxy to make more from the series
For all the pros and cons of both games, I'll still take ME1 over ME2.
>>331740051
Ouch. ME3's ending must have been a dagger to the heart for him.
>>331737912
Of course OP. It's a video game, so it had to have a boss fight in it.
>>331740942
I probably would have skullfucked somebody to death over that.
>>331741019
Strongest boss in any game ever?
>>331741242
I think you mean
>>331739815
>Reapers
>bombarding planets from orbit
lol not anymore did they even read the script for me3
reapers are kaiju now HONK HONK
>>331741415
>lol not anymore did they even read the script for me3
That IS from ME3.
>>331739514
>over complexity of the second installment
>Mass Effect 2
>complex in any way
>>331741464
McBainStandingInFrontOfABrickWallLambastingHisAudience.bmp
>>331739417
>Why did the Reapers want to create one,
I like to think before they went full retard, the human Reaper was going to do what Sovereign tried to do. Then they released Arrival and completely ruined that possibility. Really sucks how Arrival ruined both ME1 and ME2.
>why did they need human slushie DNA
Because Reapers are partly organic and that organic part is derived from the species that is harvested.
>why is a giant skeletal giant better than fly space bugs?
Possibly the internal structure of the Reaper. The outer hull of all Reapers is apparently based upon Harbinger's design.
>>331739514
I miss when RPS was good
>>331741548
>Because Reapers are partly organic
ME1 established they're not, no? ME1 is the only one that matters.
>Possibly the internal structure of the Reaper.
You get to see the internal structure of a Reaper in ME2. No skellington necessary. Never mind just plain logic.
*record scratch*
Whoa WHOAAAAA rewind, rewind!
*freeze frame*
You're probably wondering how a giddy little cowboy like me ended up here. That's right, that's me. Director! Let's rewind to the beginning!
*movie rewinds all the way back to when John Marston was a baby*
Aww, there's baby me! Gosh, I was so cute, with my tiny cowboy hat and boots. Hey, WAIT A SECOND! This is way to far back. Director, come on, let's move on ahead.
*movie forwards to when John Marston was graduating cowboy school*
Ah, perfect. Ever since I was small, I've always wanted to be a cowboy. Well, on that day, I got my wish granted. Little did I know, being a cowboy isn't all fun and games as many make it out to be.
*screen darkens*
*hey now you're a rock star.mp4*
*title RED DEAD REDEMPTION fades in over a panning view of the wild west*
>>331741652
>ME1 established they're not, no? ME1 is the only one that matters.
In ME1 they are referred as 'machines' out of ignorance, there is no way the current generation would know their true nature. Even protheans probably didn't figure it out.
>>331741719
Wrong thread, by now.
I think we can all agree M3>M1>M2
the best record scratch yet
>>331741779
>best record scratch
No such thing. It's just another shit meme.
>>331737912
Is it worth it to play ME1 without playing also 2 and 3?
>>331741776
But of course.
Especially all those sexy ass 90s models.
>>331741860
>M3 better than M1
They're entirely different cars. How can one be better?
>>331741860
>>331741912
BMWs are boring as fuck. They all look the same.
>>331741652
>ME1 established they're not, no?
Uh, no. Quite the opposite in fact. Did you listen to nothing Saren said?
>You get to see the internal structure of a Reaper in ME2
Not from a distance to deduce its shape. Plus you just said that only ME2 matters so why bring it up? :^)
>ME2
>beep boop hold up son only faggots joined the reapers we let them go because we tight like that
>we dont need no reaper junk to make our future were doing it solo all the way baby
>ME3
>HEY SHEPARD HIT ME UP WITH THAT SWEET REAPER CODE IMMA MAKE US ALL PEOPLE YO
>>331741757
>they are referred as 'machines' out of ignorance
I think that was entirely different context.
>>331741912
>They're entirely different cars. How can one be better?
>>331741939
>You were supposed to get Legion much earlier in ME2
>Even has dialog and scripting for early in the game
why bioware why
>>331741939
Legion and the Geth will always make me angry.
>>331741860
>normie shit
>>331741938
>Did you listen to nothing Saren said?
Aside from Sovereign (of which even the name has been lore-raped) contradicting itself in the "conversation", there is enough hinting in both directions. It could be either.
>>331742036
Not as pissed as the guy who wrote them
>hurr durr me3 color endings, broski man, shitty ending, third person, earth-focus!
>but its ok when me2 did all those things!
>>331742150
>that last sentence
Goddammit.
>>331742195 >but its ok when me2 did all those things!
But it's not. Nobody said it is. The entirety of ME2 is pointless. And contradictory stupidity.
>>331739389
You overload the system and the base evaporated behind you, it's also the only thing keeping the location it's in stable so that entire area would be ruined.
>>331737912
how the fuck would that even work? how would it play through space? like superman?
>remove all references to reapers from me2
>collectors now are a race that is trying to forcibly evolve themselves with human dna slurry. Humans are targeted because they only recently joined the galactic community.
How much better did me2 just get?
>>331742150
I feel so sorry for that guy.
>>331742875
Not much. Because Reapers would still be a thing in the overall sense.
Introducing Reapers was the first mistake of the ME series. Especially for a writing team on the level EA buys up.
>>331742875
If they could utilize alien DNA to augment their own, they'd be better off just picking up animals nobody cares about
>>331742875
D-Do you want to build a sn...videogame?
>>331741838
Anyone?
>>331742875
You still get your ass kicked by a blind space ninja in 3. Nothing tops that retardation.
>>331742973
Never mind picking up Asari. Which are much more versatile genetically. Actually infinitely more versatile.
>>331743019
2 is alright, and 3 has fun combat, but if you're playing for the story just forget 3 altogether.
>>331743019
Sure, why not
>>331743019
Yeah, it's fine. Most of the first Mass Effects main plot missions feel very disconnected, though, so it's not really THAT good. But it has a very nice world, with some interesting concepts.
>>331742957
Reapers would have been a lot better if we didn't know why or when, or even how many there were, or if more were coming after Sovereign.
Less really is more when it comes to cosmic horror.
>>331742150
like, tears in the rain, scoob
>>331743232
The problem is that this is a video game. Having (as of ME1) an unbeatable (the kill-Saren-avatar thing was real stupid bullshit) space god as an overarching enemy just doesn't work for the setting of Mass Effect.
>>331743032
Even putting the endings aside, 3 has so much wrong with the story I'm not sure it can be fixed without rewriting the whole game.
>>331743019
>>331741838
ME1 is one of the last solid things Bioware put together. The writing is decent but also feels kind of like its pulled together from 1/3 generic bioware structure, 1/3 babylon 5 and 1/3 star control 2.
My favourite thing about the game is that the tone and aesthetic of classic science-fiction is absolutely nailed all throughout the first game. It looks, sounds and generally feels like pulp science-fiction should. The sequels go full JJ Abrams on everything but ME1 really gets it right.
And call me absolutely out of my mind but I think it's the only one that plays well out of the whole series.
>>331743032
Wait, Kai leng was Blind?
>ME2
>Mordin comes to terms with his doubts regarding the genophage, agrees that it was for the greater good
>Legion refuses to use reaper code to get the geth one step closer to true AI status, says the geth have to get there by their own hands
>Cerberus is a morally gray organization focused on the protection of humanity above all else
>ME3
>SHEPARD THE GENOPHAGE WAS WRONG LETS FIX IT NOW
>SHEPARD I MUST UPLOAD THE REAPER CODE TO BECOME A REAL HUMAN BEAN
>CERBERUS IS EEEEVIL, WE AUGMENTED OURSELVES WITH REAPER TECH!
Mac Walters is a hack.
>>331744080
ME2 is the anomaly with regards to Cerberus' characterization
And even then, they still do a bunch of shit that's justified with "Well TIM didn't know or he would have stopped it"because you were never given a choice about working with/for them and they have to appear slightly better than an organization of Mengele tier evil scientists
*RECORD STRATCH*
a bomb??????????????
>introduce frictionless materials
>2 years later
>guns need disposable, universally applicable "heatsinks"
Uh...wat?
>10 years missing ship crew has them too
>>331737912
ROB SCHNEIDER
>>331744080
Also, what the fuck was up with EDI secretly having reaper code?
When I played ME2 the game just totally skipped this boss fight. Was it fun/
>>331737912
So, can we all agree that as a series it never achieved any of the hype or promise it said it would? That as a series it failed to establish the gravitas of the crpg titles that faggots still hold up today as the best games of all time?
>>331744748
It already failed at simple, logical cohesion. Everything else is just the avalanche following that.
>>331744492
IS
A CARROT!
>>331744816
Yep. Went from fairly hard sci-fi with a consistent tone and world building to Gears of War: Space Magic.
>>331739514
That's just plain fucking Stockholm's Syndrome what this guy is going through.
>>331744605
>Big guy fight on a platform
>Mario-tier obvious weakpoint
>Adds
>Slightly less obvious, but still obvious weakpoints
>Ridiculously easy, since 90% of the time you're probably have the collector laser
Pretty shitty final fight, I'd say even Saren was better.
>>331745132
>fighting Saren
>take out his shields and start chipping at his health
>cutscene starts
>hear shield recovery sound
>back to fight
>his shield is full again
Must have been a lousy boss fight if Saren was better
>>331742448
I don't think "racism" means what he thinks it means.
>Bioware doesn't see the irony in a canon fucking ending to the series being exactly what Saren wanted in the first place
God damn it why couldn't the reapers have been something other than what they were. I'm sure there was some original plan other than "UHH ROBOTS GET CRAZY EVENTUALLY SO WE HAVE TO KILL EVERYONE SO THEY DON'T KILL YOU FIRST".
>>331745307
You have three massive weakspots, a nuke to halve health the first cycle and then just boring point and click.
Yeah, it's bad.
>>331745582
>I'm sure there was some original plan other than
>>331745582
Saren's only mistake was choosing the Reapers as the galaxy's future. If his vision of Synthesis involved giving everyone tech upgrades that weren't Reaper in origin, it would turn out okay.
That said, he'd never even try to do that without getting his brain indoctrinated.
>>331737912
So a reaper is just a very tall robot?
How did reapers wipe out whole civilizations again?
>>331745816
Numbers. And lasers.
>>331745816
By having unprecedented powerful weapons and defenses, a single one being able to stroll through a united galactic armed fleet without (much) damage. Who then uploaded its entire operating system into a piss-easily defeatable, broken piece of machinery.
As in stupidity.
>>331744605
>pc vs console graphics dot jejpeg
>>331745941
>a single big metal machine can destroy tens of thousands of other metal machines without being destroyed in turn
Thats pretty dumb. Science fiction, more like anti-science fiction ammirite?
>>331745950
That is very literally the joke
>>331739417
>Why did the Reapers want to create one, why did they need human slushie DNA, why is a giant skeletal giant better than fly space bugs?
They aren't better or anything. There wasn't supposed to be anything special about the human reaper. The reapers just pick up whatever species they like the most each cycle and use it to make one new reaper to build up their ranks, then ME3 came out and retconned this. I can only guess they wanted their giant space battle an fuck if they were going to make a different design for each individual reaper. Would have been cool getting reapers with different designs knowing they are the shape of species that were in your situation and lost in previous cycles. kind of like your enemy going to battle all dressed up in the corpses of his enemies.
>>331744594
Oh man, look what have Reapers done to those poor people
>>331746008
>Thats pretty dumb.
But it's not. You should play the game, so you know what you're talking about.
>>331746008
The only thing dumb here is your oversimplification. ME may be stupid but your argument as to why is plain retarded.
>>331745950
wow good job you looked at the same image everyone else did and were capable enough to read the words on that image
So I just finished ME1
Can you really not save both Ashley and Kaidan?
Also why is the boss fight so shit? it's literally Green Goblin then it turns into Zombie General Grievous
>>331746281
>Can you really not save both Ashley and Kaidan?
That's the point. Albeit handled a bit hamfisted.
>Also why is the boss fight so shit?
I don't think (modern) Bioware ever could into bossfights.
This is why OP.
http://www.gamewatcher.com/news/2012-15-03-mass-effect-writer-drew-karpyshyn-reveals-original-mass-effect-3-endings
The Reapers were going to kill everyone due to dark matter buildup.
>>331746281
you didn't make saren kill himself?
>>331746494
The bad part is the "processing". That's not much less dumb than what we got overall (as proven in 2).
>>331746575
the option came up but I thought choosing that option might talk him down into joining me so I didn't pick it since I want to kill him.
>>331746410
I enjoyed ME1's boss fight the most because biotic ragdolling actually works on him, which makes it ridiculous
>>331737912
>*RECORD SCRATCH*
>A HUMAN REAPER?!
>AND THE PROM IS TOMORROW!
How do I make a cute Shepard in ME2? :3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbIuOU4l1Pw
>what could have been
>>331747491
http://www.facesofgaming.com/
>>331747491
Play with the sliders. Listen to your dick.
>>331747662
Then leave creator engine and enter game engine, to be horribly disappointed by simple failure of shading.
>>331747604
aaaaayy
>production "quality" ALL the way
>right up to marketing
>>331747848
are those squiggly lines from microsoft word spelling corrections?
>>331747902
what the fuck
>>331747902
>>331747958
Yes, they are.
>>331739514
I'm absolutely fine with people enjoying AAA and simple games.
But this "article" is deprived from any critical thinking and soley based on his own imagination.
That's all fun and well. But trying to sell it as a fact is either a troll or a shill.
ME had a great concept, that unfortunately was only announced as a trilogy, never layouted, or written as such. I think many /v/-people would be ok with the simplification of the games, if the concepts and plotlines were anywhere consistent as its major selling poont promised.
>>331740051
I don't even know what to believe anymore, I mean I loved ME2 as is but after reading this...
>tfw no shiala romance
Mass Effect 1-3 are my favorite games of all time.
>>331748438
My condolences.
the mass effect general on /vg/ made some scientific chemical research bullshit that claims Batarian cum turns into foam
also some guy in the Bioware forums also did some scientific chemical research bullshit and claims Quarian sweat smells good and can be used as energy drinks
>>331748501
It is perfectly fine to like shit. The problem is with not being able to accept that it is, factually, shit.
>>331743019
it's a decent series if you just go with it and do try to think the inconsistencies. changed content or not, Rannoch remains my favorite part in ME3
>>331748512
That map seems like nitpicking though. Maybe they should've named some things differently, but it honestly does not matter that much.
>>331748579
I'll show it to you again tomorrow.
>>331748337
>that kid is a resized adult
>>331744571
EDI was partially made from Sovereign's guts after Shepard destroyed the rogue VI on the Moon in ME1
>>331739514
He kind of has a point, that everyone looks at the ending in a vacuum. Also it is based of the visuals alone rather than the choice made.
yes they dropped the ball with the final cutscene but I think it was more of the implications your choices had for the Galaxy than a right in that moment kind of thing.
not saying they did a good job, but people definitely over reacted.
>>331748773
Your "joke" doesn't work, try again.
WE WUZ ROBOTS AN SHIET
I really thought the entire series came together at the end to teach a harsh lesson about trust.
Like, your favorite devs spend YEARS telling you that your choices are important and will affect the final outcome of the story, and you trust they're going to deliver, I mean ou brace yourself for there only being like 2 or 3 different endings with slight variations of each, but you believe that at least there's going to be SOME effect based on your decisions.
Then the ME3 ending just blind sides you out of nowhere and it turns out oyur decisions didn't matter even a little bit and you're left angry and even confused, all because you let them build up your trust over half a decade only to smash it down within a couple of minutes.
No game series has ever tough as harsh a life lesson as Mass Effect. Trust leads to dissapointment.
>>331749045
But the 90% of ME3 is broken, never mind judging it as a sequel.
>>331749079
I wasn't even mad about the ending
It's way worse how absolutely everything else is shit
Especially after Tuchanka
Still I'm Mad.
I'm still meme
meme I'm mad
Why are Leviathans a thing again?
>>331748780
Don't talk about me or my endings again
>>331749314
>>331749319
sonmind
>>331749287
To sell more content. To destroy more lore. To..."explain" reapers' existence.
>>331749287
Because someone at Bioware thought they needed to destroy what was left of the lore
>>331749287
To give a thing that was made, a thing that made it.
also, they are genuinely freaky and they made them the scary insidious threat that the reapers should have been
>>331749367
>To destroy more lore
the lore with them is fine.
Only issue would be it undermines the reapers, but given everything else it almost does the opposite.
>>331749195
Tuchanka was shit as well though.
>>331748337
Some of these complaints are bullshit and drag down the others with how petty they are. Poisoning your own well with that.
>>331749561
What are the Leviathans? I tried to replay ME3 with all the DLC but I couldn't bring myself to not uninstall it
>>331739514
>Cis Gender Shotgun
Nope.jpg
>>331749628
A deus ex machina is never fine. And that's what the Leviathans are. Except that it doesn't even get used.
>>331739270
Yeah the renegade options were retarded for being renegade alot of the time
Such as cooperating with the people who spent an incredible amount of resources to bring you back from the fucking dead, while the paragon option is just be an asshole and dismiss them for something they may or may not have done
>>331749651
Tuchanka was one of the few places I actually died on Insanity. It was okay.
>>331749771
>And that's what the Leviathans are.
They don't come in and save anything, the entire DLC is building up to them and establishing them, and when they show up its because you hunted them down, they didn't come out of nowhere.
You don't actually know what that phrase means do you?
>>331749714
More or less the Rakata from KOTOR, they were the OG galaxy-spanning empire that had all the original ancient sentient races in their hand, then they got too greedy when they created Reapers, which turned on them, leading to their downfall
>>331750004
>They don't come in and save anything
Hence the "it doesn't get used".
They came out of nowhere, because they were hinted at but once before (pic), which was then retconned into a stupid idea (derelict reaper).
They are an unused deus ex machina, because they created the reapers, thus know their functioning and could thus, if not entirely disable, at least be a huge step to defeating the reapers.
And to top it off, they were introduced in an optional DLC.
>>331749714
>What are the Leviathans?
sea monster things that have a stronger version of indoctrination that they can exert more strongly to the point of killing you, or release.
they used it to subjugate the other species of their home world, have them build ships and then just went around enslaving worlds for fun.
their slaves kept making robots to be their slaves and the robots kept having uprisings. Their abilities didn't work on robots so they made an AI to figure out the problem and stop it, it started making reapers and somehow killed almost all of them. A handful survive, and have been alive since the time of the first cycle.
they can kill reapers using a feedback of indoctrination , but it tires them out and thus they are still at risk of being overwhelmed and just hide from the reapers every cycle.
>>331746102
>Would have been cool getting reapers with different designs knowing they are the shape of species that were in your situation and lost in previous cycles. kind of like your enemy going to battle all dressed up in the corpses of his enemies.
Stop making me sad
>>331750234
So you got exactly what you expected
>>331750240
>>331750141
how entirely predictable
>>331750226
>Hence the "it doesn't get used".
No that means it cannot be a deus ex machina. It doesn't fit any of the definition.
>They came out of nowhere, because they were hinted at but once before (pic)
That doesnt make them a deus ex. not having 3 games of build up isnt the same thing as comming from nowhere in full firce as a first appearance. If the end of the DLC was the first introduction to them then maybe, but it isnt.
> thus know their functioning and could thus, if not entirely disable, at least be a huge step to defeating the reapers.
Could but arent because there's like 3 of them.
Buddy, its not a deus ex, there's more than one way for writing to be bad.
You are just astonishingly ignorant
>>331746102
>The reapers just pick up whatever species they like the most each cycle
They REALLY pushed the extinction angle for the reapers, though. The possibility of harvesting came about by an out-of-nowhere comment of one of the squadmates present at the Sovereign conversation and was never mentioned again until...I think WAY into ME2? If there at all.
>>331739320
>>331742341
>the Reaper IFF system on the Normandy is the only thing that allows Shepard to use the Omega relay without drifting into a black hole
>Cerberus just goes through the Omega relay with no problems without the Normandy
>>331749892
Renegade didn't really get dumb till 3 where it became an actively cripple yourself by not getting resources option cause you said fuck off
>>331750226
If it doesn't do the thing that makes it a deus ex, its not a deus ex.
That would be like a retcon thats consistent, planned from the start that contradicts nothing.
>>331750391
So they're not DEM, fine by me. Nevertheless, they break lore.
God I just wish that Andromeda would be good, even if it's not likely since literally everyone left, I still have a glimmer of hope
>>331750240
>things that have a stronger version of indoctrination that they can exert more strongly to the point of killing you, or release.
>they used it to subjugate the other species of their home world, have them build ships and then just went around enslaving worlds for fun.
>WE LITERALLY CANNOT STOP COPYING STAR CONTROL
>>331747112
I really liked that part. 10/10
>>331750308
But i was not expecting to fall in love with the best waifu ever anon :3
>Hi Shepard, what's up?
>I'm sick, i got some cosmic flu. Wanna come in?
>Make yourself comfortable, I will make some tea.
>OOO candy!
>What a candy?
>WAIT! THESE ARE ANTIBIOTICS!
>>331741939
Legion deserved more love. You know who didn't? The filthy space gypsy Tali
>Talk to Tali in ME1
>Yeah so we had to kill the Geth cause they were getting smart and then we'd have no free labour and have to give them rights and shit
>Tell her that's bad
>OMG YOU JUST DON'T GET IT
She is a gypsy and a nazi
i'm so eternally butthurt about this fucking series
>>331750643
Take it back, Bioware would never copy something from another game!
>>331750678
And then you realize where the thing is located, in correlation to its contents.
>>331750643
no one cares about those old games, grampa
>>331750583
>Nevertheless, they break lore.
Except they don't. The lore around reapers was fucked before they showed up and they help restore some degree of threat and the unknown to things.
>>331750643
>Mass Effect carries SC lore better than SC3 does
>>331750240
>can subjugate races through the entire galaxy to worship them as gods
>can't make them not create killers robots
>create AI because "lol that woudn't happen to us"
>said AI somehow manages to build SOMETHING that drives them to extinction without them noticing
>said SOMETHING is somehow irrelevant and never appears on the story
>>331747112
I fucking loved that bit.
>>331750763
This is retarded, even if it was candy she wouldn't eat it
Everyone knows about species-specific food and Liara is an anthropologist on top of that
>>331750907
>help restore some degree of threat and the unknown to things.
How so? They merely explain that they were created with a strange mishap in their programming (which kinda makes no sense) and make the reapers much LESS mysterious.
Yes the reaper lore was fucked before, of course. But the Leviathans didn't fix anything, just twisted it in a slightly different direction, while removing tension/mystery.
>>331750842
This inst surprising and is very common.
Its the senior staff for a project that you should track, they are the ones who are supposed to guide things. Turnover in a video game company for lower positions is the standard.
>>331748231
>form-fitting shiny outfits
Mass Effect was fun for me. In ME2 Miranda's alternate uniform camethen I did
>>331750931
>>can subjugate races through the entire galaxy to worship them as gods
>>can't make them not create killers robots
>>create AI because "lol that woudn't happen to us"
See this is all fine because I can see it happening.
Arrogant beings that have no interest properly managing their toys? I'm down with this.
but the rest
>>said AI somehow manages to build SOMETHING that drives them to extinction without them noticing
>said SOMETHING is somehow irrelevant and never appears on the story
Right? Fucking no effort to explain it They were the first species wiped out too!
>>331739497
Actually and I will admit I could be wrong but I'm almost certain that the Reapers targeted earth so heavily solely because of Shepard. Shepard basically pissed off Harbringer so much that he got a hard on for fucking up humanity. It's actually impressive that a single man pissed in the cereal of a millions of years old sentient machine eldritch abomination so much that he effectively doomed his species even harder then normal.
It really showed during the battle with the reaper on Ranoch.
"Shepard. Harbringer speaks of you."
That's pretty damn good going from "Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh. You touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding."
To that.
>>331751112
The way their indoctrination works, seeing the mining center under their control and how they twisted people to control them, it gave the sense of fear of this unseen force that was present in the first game and entirely absent since.
>>331742150
>legion was well written as it was
>he could have been twice as good and all the dumb shit with the geth in 3 could have been avoided
Fuck
>>331750697
>>331750234
im gonna need a tetanus shot
>>331751252
>Shepard basically pissed off Harbringer
That just makes things worse. ESPECIALLY with the last bit.
"Sovereign" already sounded like a high-horse school bully, now you have Harbinger being the kindergarten villain.
>>331751287
But we've known about other species being capable of indoctrination (or similar, which made much more sense having ended up being incorporated into reaper form- and would've been more interesting rather than yet another new godlike species) with the Thorian. Hell, even a second Thorian would've been better.
>>331742150
>literally Idea Guy coming with "wouldn't be cool if" and ruining everything
Jesus Christ.
>>331751380
I KNOW YOU FEEL THIS>pump entire Mattock magazine into his head with adrenaline rush
Fuck, I accidentally clicked on a hide-post and now the conversation is gone. How do I unhide things in just one thread?
>>331751727
4chan X has a button on its settings to reset hidden posts
Maybe the vanilla extension does as well?
>>331751727
Press [+] on the stub.
>>331740051
Damn... They pissed away so much great story potential.
>>331751891
For all hidden posts, yeah. But not for just one thread? Eh, it's not that important.
>>331751979
I disabled stubs.
Again, thanks, but not that important.
>>331752046
Then enable stubs.
>>331752062
>it works retroactively
Well shit. Could've thought of that myself. Whelp.
>>331750763
>ANTIBIOTICS!
hehe hehehe heh
>>331750697
Whoever was responsible for her horrible design needs to be dragged outside and shot with a tank.
Probably the same "wouldn't it be cool!" guy that fucked up Legion.
"Hey wouldn't it be cool if we throw away any artistic consistency of our slightly gritty scifi game and put something that looks like a 1950s sexy cartoon robot maid in it!"
"Uuuh... no that would be horr..."
"DO IIIIIIIIIT!"
I think I'll have to wash my brain with bleach to forget what a fucking abortion ME3 was.
The worst part of the ending is that you could improve it drastically by just changing the sequence it happens.
>Have harbinger taunt you as you approach the beam
>Get hit, enter beam as standard
>Immediately get transported to catalyst part
>Argue with starchild
>If you pick destroy/refuse, cut to white and you wake up where you normally get transported with the beam
>pick control/synthesis and you get a harbinger quote as you see Shepard "sacrifice himself"
>This adds indoctrination as a valid plot point and lets you have a final confrontation with harbinger in a battle of the minds
>Go meet Anderson/TIM as usual
>After confrontation have chat with Anderson, sit down, Anderson dies, Shepard has a moment of peace looking out the window while horribly wounded
>Weapon fires instead of Hackett contacting you about "something went wrong".
Suddenly you have a more satisfying ending without removing anything because "muh artistic integrity" and without having to add anything more. Doesnt fix the plotholes or many other failings but eh.
>they stole Garrus from XCom
>>331752816
what kind of alien is that on the right? never played ye olde xcoms
it looks hilarious
>>331752915
A Spitter, perhaps. I'm watching Nook for old XCom, not playing myself.
>>331752915
It's ablowjobber. The next time you masturbate think of what it does.
>>331752421
>horrible design
>>331753068
Nah, it's horrible alright.
>>331737912
>mfw deadpool made cheeky 4th wall breaks not-funny
>>331751380
>>331751380
I disagree. I enjoyed sovereigns dialogue and wished the reapers stayed as unknowable eldritch machine gods from outside of the Galaxy. I wish we never learned why they do what they do. With that in mind I enjoy the idea of a single man actually being noticed and pissing off one of them. The idea that a creature that barely perceives organics as sentient would get so fixated and angry about one is neat to me.
That being said they ruined the reapers after ME1 and Harbringers personal involvement and hate of Shepard shows their downfall into mediocrity.
Also What school did you fucking go to where the bullies talked like that? Sovereign as a high school bully would be
>sup faggot how's your Nerd7 shit class? You ever going to bang that Ashley chick? Oh wait of course not you're always going to be a virgin and I already did. See you later Shepard.
>>331751370
>man-face
Fucken Bioware
>>331750763
>antibiotics? But Asari aren't dextro based....
>antibiotics
>Anti Biotic
Hehe
>>331752997
Doesn't look like the same but this one's even more hilarious
Are X-Com aliens intentionally camp?
>>331753018
hot
>>331748337
Who is the tranny that Ashley is modeled after, I need it for research purposes
>>331753156
>I really don't give a shit about you
>you are less than an ant to me
>but let me taunt you and tell you how superior I am anyway
>let me rub in your face how insignificant you are, because I really don't care about you
Just no.
In any remotely "realistic" setting, "Sovereign" would've simply hung up after "You are not Saren."
He has absolutely no reason to give a shit about you, just because Saren had some plot-armor difficulty of removing your interference.
I know, I know, it's a video game.
mmmmm
>>331753348
Beautiful!
>Sovereign
>in German
>>331753431
He's just a shitposter who wants your attention
>>331752737
The mod endings are a must.
>Shepard gets to the citadel.
>showdown with Tim
>No starchild shit
>sit there with Anderson staring at earth
>destruction ending cutscene plays without the Relays and the Geth/Aigetting fucked up
>game ends with the back shot of Shepard and a (dead) Anderson propped up against the podium staring at Earth
>>331750763
oh my fucking GOD
>>331753587
He's not nearly that bad.
>>331753583
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHAbZEq7X8g
Good grief
>>331745657
Well that hurts to read
>>331753431
I can accept that. Hell I can agree with it. Iv basically got two conflicting opinions. On one hand I agree and if soveriegn is truly this unknowable almost Lovecraftian Machine squid then yes he shouldn't even bother with words. However at the same time I like the idea that said creatures do get fixated on lesser things and are just as liable of mortal frailties as we are.
Either one works for me.
>>331753587
I'm not Australian
>>331754019
>I'm not Australian
Not you, Sovereign
>please keep responding to me so I can tell you how inferior you are
Typical shitposter behavior
>>331754019
They did (try to do) both, is the (a) problem.
Really, all things considered, a non galaxy threatening focused game would've been SO much better. It would've been incredible to have a focused story in a grand setting, as opposed to the opposite.
Fuck the fucking reapers. They ruin everything.
>>331743118
>fine
you drones sure do love that word dont you
>>331754534
I don't...wat? "Fine" triggers you? How is that even possible?
Protip: read more than until whatever word triggered you.
>Hey people are saying that the way we handle ammo in ME1 isn't very interesting
>Ok how about we introduce a mechanic where you can stop your gun from overheating using a heat sink of some kind
>Alright that sounds pretty cool, we can make it a fairly scarce resource that allows you to choose to immediately cool off weapons so there's some semblance of strategy to stop your guns from overheating, and it would actually fit with how weapons already work
>Nah fuck that, just make it completely indistinguishable for ammo
The Reapers ruined mass effect
>>331754880
>Hey people are saying that the way we handle ammo in ME1 isn't very interesting
I really found it interesting, considering the established universe.
>>331750847
What do you mean?
>>331754880
>people are saying that the way we handle ammo in ME1 isn't very interesting
who?
>>331755135
Marketers.
>>331753068
The style clashes hard with all other aesthethics of the game.
You just can tell that the lead art disaster came in late to the office one day, smelling of alcohol and with powder residues under his nose and just screaming "CHROMED MAID SEXBOTS, WOOO!". And by the time he sobered up the game had already shipped.
>want to replay ME 1+2
>only on Origin
>origin freezes my computer no matter what I do or guides I follow
WHY
H
Y
>>331755251
What's the problem with it? It's a regular dude with a VI sound effect overlay, just like English Sovereign
t. German
>>331755397
>only on Origin
what?
They're both on steamand piratebay
>>331754880
>Remember the old days when you could just slap omni-gel on everything?
>>331739270
>>331749892
>>331750419
>VtMB came out in 2004
>Jack literally says "there's no such thing as good or evil. We're all evil."
>all the factions have understandable motivations that you can sympathize with, in addition to likeable characters you can relate to
>there are no good or evil decisions, in one quest you can kill that thin blood who leaked vampire secrets in cold blood and the only thing that's affected is your conscience
>3-4 years later bioshock and mass effect implement 100% black and white good or evil moral choices and they become the next hot fad for 5 years
I hate this industry
Anybody reading that 50-something-part retrospective breakdown by Shamus Young on the series? Shit's a good read, he really goes in-depth with the entire thing. Things were already fucked with 2, 3's ending was just the culmination of everything that had gone wrong.
Understanding exactly where and how bad the series fucked up eases the pain a little bit.
Personally I blame whoever on the writing team had that fucking hard-on for Cerberus.
>>331755890
What's VtMB?
Sounds like something I'd want to check out
>>331750812
I still liked that ass and nerdy behaviour.
>>331744080
To be fair, it was really obvious that Mordin had huge issues with the genophage thing. I didn't play 3 but I figure it was a matter of time before he changed his mind
>>331755890
>Understanding the Anarchists motivations
>In Bloodlines
Bull fucking shit
>>331755890
but that was standard BioWare morality system wankery already by that point
did you really think they would go "wow look at this failed RPG I'm sure it will become a cult classic so let's emulate it"
>>331747112
>tfw all the sense of mystery and wonder died throughout the series
>>331756020
Considering his character, not really.
>>331747112
>>331756138
>replaying 1 now
>the Thorian on Feros
>the Rachni's speech patterns
>all these planets everywhere I can just explore on, even if they're mostly the kind of thing I used to do in 3D animation programs when I was like 14 with nicer palettes and more lens flares
God fuck dammit I wanted more of the Star Trek space opera aspects. Exploration, discovery, weird alien shit, maybe a climactic fight or two.
Maybe No Man's Sky will scratch that itch, but it won't have the great characters with good bantz that really seal the deal.
>>331750812
She's pretty good. I think they should have tuned down the gigglesquee xd nerd bits about her but aside from that she was mostly alright. Should have been able to call her out more often though
>>331755998
Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines
It's a good game.
>>331755446
Germans make everything a bit more evil.
>>331756020
Salarians are logical creatures with very short timespans.
If he had doubts about the genophage during ME2, it's simply because he had not given much thought about the issue. After his loyalty mission, according to everything we learn about salarians, that issue was resolved, catalogued and archived deep within his mind.
>>331754880
>thermal clips happen in between ME1 and ME2
>Shepard gets blown the fuck out a few weeks after ME1
>"This pistol doesn't have a thermal clip."
>that shit with Jacob's dad and his goons all having thermal clips
If you're going to retcon, don't half ass it. You're half assing a half ass at that point
>>331747112
I real like liked that part, it was so unexpected
I think there was another one of those ruins on some other planet, but it didn't have the vision
when they brought it back in ME2 I was really hoping to have a fully animated vision
oh well
>>331756810
>Timespans
Am an idiot. Meant Lifespans.
>>331755552
>they actually are
holy shit
Do they have the DLC?I gotta hang with my nigga Zaeed
>>331755890
>motivations you can sympathize with
NO
REMOVE KUEI JIN
KUEI JIN SHITDOGS REMOVE
KILL KUEI JIN
>>331756024
The idea is that they want to be independent of the Camarilla and Sabbat, as well as the elders. Sabbat were originally Anarchs too
>>331756821
The thermal clips in the universe are supposed to work just like the poster you replied to said, they just changed it in the game for gameplay purposes
Zaeed's story about his his old rifle finally gave out had him blasting it non stop through huge groups of mercs, and he specifically mentioned how he didn't even bother ejecting clips
>>331756462
Exploration in ME1 was mostly shit tho
>>331741939
Guh, why are geth and turians so sexy... It's like the only thing Bioware did right.
>>331750406
Simple, the explosion destroyed the black holes, too.
>>331757136
That doesn't change the fact that there were absolutely no thermal clips in ME1
And I don't see how making a system that is inconsistent with the lore is better than a previous system that was consistent
>>331756932
I'm pretty sure the DLC is dependant on your bioware account
so you could just copy the DLC files to your steam folder fomr your Origin folder and it should workOr just use an unlocker and don't go online
>>331757350
I agree, but they don't give a fuck
And the sad thing is, most players wouldn't give a fuck about lore either
>>331757320
I approve of this.
>>331757459the origin guide had me delete everything origin from my computer
Guys. We are on an anonymous board. All jokes/bait/lies aside, and also..think for 1 minute that you were not on /v/, like ever. DID you or DID YOU NOT enjoy the Mass Effect Trilogy experience as a whole ?
>>331757935
me2 was so disappointing I didn't even play 3
>>331757935
Yeah I guess so
I liked ME1 and 2 and the first 10 hours or so of ME3
Played the first two like 5 times but couldn't bring myself to finish an ME3 replay though
>>331757935
I enjoyed ME1 with a few (some deep) chinks in its armor. I was confused by ME2, but didn't think much about it and tried to enjoy what it gave me. In the end it was blah so badly and more and more confusing, that I didn't even bother with 3. THEN I found out about 3's..."flaws".
>>331740838
wtf was that scene all about, there was so many unnecessary scenes at the end.
>>331737912
me is good
>>331758085
well people like you don't count.
>dropping games...ffs
>>331758250
>wtf was that scene all about,
It almost has the feel to it that they knew how fucked their ending was and this leaves shit open to interpretation(Except it doesn't). One of the most out of place things in the history of storytelling.
>>331757935
Liked the first one, the second one got me hyped for the third.
But when I played ME 3 I just found myself questioning everything more and more the further I got into the game. By the end I didn't even know if the time I spent playing was worth it.
>>331737912
A YUMAN REEPER?!
>>331758413
What the fuck man? What is this post?
Stop baiting and/or lurk moar
>>331755890
That was already popular since KOTOR came out.
>>331755890
>5 years
what a surprise
It's not like a normal ending where you choose red blue or green.
>>331755998
Don't open it.
TELL ME ANOTHER STORY ABOUT THE SHEPARD
>>331749698
please inform us as to which of the complaints are petty and bring down the others, because every complaint there shows how lazy bioware is
>>331747848
I enjoyed the multiplayer.
>>331759037
Sorry, relays exploded. There was no Shepard.
>>331757935
I really liked 1 with the exception of some parts, really loved most of 2, with the exception of some parts, didn't play 3 yet, so I'm hoping the rumors aren't true
>>331758085
too bad, you should. It's better than 1 and 2 in a lot of ways.
>>331750406
Why wouldn't Cerberus have a copy of the iff code after it is installed on the normandy? It was likely phoning home with all sorts of data.
>>331741719
Where is this from? It's going to drive me crazy/
>>331759161
>so I'm hoping the rumors aren't true
>>331758681
I like this design, but doesn't really fit with the whole 'shepherd commander saviour of galaxy' thing.
Would be a cool party member though
>>331758132
just re-play the trilogy with ALL the DLCs, it's impossible to not enjoy it
>>331759037
Shepard is an equal opportunity faggot and he rammed his dick in every hole in the galaxy.
The End
>>331737912
SO like, how the fuck do they manage to kill EVERY SINGLE LIVING THING, when they take months to even level a few earth cities? Seems like a really fucking dumb plot from the beginning
>Lets take an absolute evil
>Give them no reason to wipe out a galaxy every 50k years (apart from muh potential wars)
>Give them an edgy name like the reapers (which they don't even reap apart from that one in OP's pic)
>Add zombies but call them husks
How did people even fucking like this?
The only possible explanation is space, literally nothing can fail if it's set in explorable space. It doesn't make sense otherwise
>>331759161
>so I'm hoping the rumors aren't true
you should play it, with the DLCs, then compare your thoughts to those rumors. It's still a very good game despite the hate
>>331757935
Still going through 3 for the first time but I like 1 and love 2.
>>331759273
What?
>>331759426
Just waiting for it to go on sale
>>331759427
i really hope you installed the DLCs because they really make the game more fun. Especially Citadel DLC
>>331759292
>it's impossible to not enjoy it
I can't shut my brain off that much, sorry.
>>331759324
The premise is simple, really:
Reapers take over Citadel and with it take control over ALL the relays. They shut the relays off, making communication impossible. Then they have huge numbers, each individual reaper being seriously powerful, and just plow planet by planet.
As stated in ME1, it takes hundreds of years for the reapers to finish.
>>331757935
Loved it then, still love it.
Each of the three games had colossally stupid endings. It's goofy as fuck but that's what makes it fun. 3 has more flaws than the other two and feels unfinished, but it's still ME at it's heart. And I'm not counting the ending as a flaw. I've played games with ACTUAL bad endings, like NWN2. That shit was fucking BAD. The ending to the trilogy is fine. Not particularly good, but it's fine. And it still feels great to see all the decisions pan out in little ways throughout the story. People overemphasize the problems with 3 and 2 and ignore all the problems with 1. The trilogy as a whole is a flawed masterpiece.
Also Ashley best waifu.
>>331759324
>EVERY SINGLE LIVING THING
No, every single advanced civilization
And as evidenced by the Prothean stasis pods, they don't magically kill everything
>>331759531
>As stated in ME1, it takes hundreds of years for the reapers to finish.
Liara also mentions that in ME3
>>331759497
>Just waiting for it to go on sale
you think that will happen ? Because that bioware points currency shit is still ongoing...i haven't bought any DLCs neither because of that. Just pirate them and play it, see if you like them, then buy it
>>331759324
Well, the process takes hundreds of years apparently, and they use indoctrination to make the living species fight each other and shit, and they only kill the space-faring races
>>331759554
>People overemphasize the problems with 3 and 2 and ignore all the problems with 1.
But that's not true.
>The trilogy as a whole is a flawed masterpiece.
And that's contradictory and really a dumb thing to say about Mass Effect. 95% of all criticism about it is true and valid. Do not discount this, just because you like it (which is perfectly okay, don't misunderstand).
>>331759531
>I can't shut my brain off that much, sorry.
the problem is that you must play it with your heart not with your brain anon
>>331757935
1 and 2 were great for me. 3 was good until the Cerberus station.
>Oh hey the station is blowing up and being shot to shit.
>HEY I'D BETTER WATCH THIS VIDEO ABOUT THE LAZARUS PROJECT
>>331759659
Yeah I'll probably do that
>>331759281
It's an RPG. Additional story paths aren't a bad thing.
>>331759324
They are called reapers because they cultivate galactic society and then harvest them when they peak and are ripe for the taking.
Evil and good are subjective. The reapers purpose is to resolve the conflict between machine and organic life. Since reapers are machines, they use machine logic to accomplish this by viewing organic life as mechanical in nature.
>>331759789
Oh please, don't be ridiculous.
>>331759554
>People overemphasize the problems with 3 and 2 and ignore all the problems with 1.
Eeeeh not really. Before 3 came out, there were weekly threads with people flinging shit about ME1 vs ME2
>>331759694
WHy? what's the fucking point though?
The whole premise is so god damn stupid. Like deathwing, an absolute evil and utterly stupid
>>331759867
>They are called reapers because
the Protheans started calling them that. No other reason is given.
Reaping, as in harvesting, is an offhand comment by one of your squadmates, which then became the main point of the trilogy for no reason.
>>331749319
>my wife's endings
>>331739514
It's okay. I liked 1 & 2, but I think it peaked with 2.
2 was effectively the same but more polish and with less inventory management and random drops. It had less free roam though like with the MAKO
>>331759867
What conflict though?
>>331759971
>WHy? what's the fucking point though?
The 'point' we're given as explanation for their actions is what most of the ending-hate is about. So, yes, it is plain stupid.
>>331759659
Main problem with pirating it is that you miss out on the god-tier multiplayer.
Buy the base game and pirate the DLCs. Might be a bit tricky but it's worth it. You can use cheat engine to hack your MP credits and get some decent guns. You can even use save editor to unlock all pre-order bonuses.
>>331759851
That doesn't work as a blanket statement
Multiple story paths are good if the game is built for it, like Age of Decadence
If you have a game whose main point is the usual "big hero saves everyone" routine, adding some alternative where you're just a random guy having space adventures would dilute both paths
Note that I'm not saying space adventures is bad, it's just a bad idea to force both ideas into the same game
>>331759203
Generic Hollywood schlock, not from anything in particular
>>331759989
The protea so figured out what the reapers were, anon. They figured out that the reapers were cultivating civilization and then harvesting said civilizations. They figured out that it happens in a predictable cycle.
>>331746008
>A single tank can destroy tens of thousands of bicycles without being destroyed in turn
Reapers are really, really big and really, really advanced.
[RECORD SCRATCH]
HOL UP
>>331759971
they are assholes basically...they want to be the most advanced species in the galaxy and the harvest cicle is performed to cut the wings of all other rising species.
>>331759971
Because they didn't go through with some of the original ideas as the main writer left.
"Maybe the Reapers kept wiping out organic life because organics keep evolving to the state where they would use biotics and dark energy and that caused an entropic effect that would hasten the end of the universe. Being immortal beings, that's something they wouldn't want to see.
"Then we thought, let's take it to the next level. Maybe the Reapers are looking at a way to stop this. Maybe there's an inevitable descent into the opposite of the Big Bang (the Big Crunch) and the Reapers realise that the only way they can stop it is by using biotics, but since they can't use biotics they have to keep rebuilding society - as they try and find the perfect group to use biotics for this purpose. The Asari were close but they weren't quite right, the Protheans were close as well.
>>331760209
Please listen carefully to the entire Vigil conversation.
>>331757935
I enjoyed every single game, regardless what people tell me
>>331760090
oh i have the 3 games, just none of the non-free DLCs. The games were on sale for like 10 $ all 3, but the DLCs never go on sale as far as i know. Maybe before Andromeda ? idk...
>>331760218
10000 bicycles is like 70000 tons
I don't think so Tim
>>331759971
You talking shit about Deathwing, son?
>>331760430
What the fuck are you even trying to say?
Can we at least agree Cerberus is responsible for most of the shitty parts? Not Cerberus the organization, I mean the role of Cerberus in the plot and all the stupid half-ass-asspulls and retarded backwards justifications and pretty much everything that went wrong is all due to Cerberus being important in 2 and 3.
>what's that? You want to fight cool new enemies and Reaper-related shit? Too bad, cover shooting against human enemies.
>what's that? Joining forces with an organization that has proven in 1 to be cartoonishly evil/retarded at best is a terrible idea, I don't want to do it? Tough shit, railroaded because the plot demands we fix a problem we just created five minutes ago.
>>331759840
not like that's the first and only game where shit is going down but you still have time to do side-shit..if that was your turn off then it's a bit lame
>>331760507
>most
Not most, but a lot, yes.
>>331759758
There are a lot of valid criticisms, but everyone tends to focus on 3's ending, which is really fine. If I had to make a list, the biggest problems with 3 are:
>not seeing Elcor/Volus/Hanar homeworlds
>not enough time with ME2 romances
>Legion isn't nearly as interesting as he was in ME2
>really small number of party members
>game starts way too easy and doesn't get even slightly difficult until after Sur'Kesh
>pre-order/dlc items are kind of bullshit
>the EMS system ruins decision-making because it tries to quantify outcomes that should be priceless, since meta-gaming now reduces all choices to right or wrong when they should be morally ambiguous
All of which are valid criticisms, but they're annoyances, not nearly enough to make the game bad. Really the only potentially game-ruining complaint is the EMS, which can easily be ignored.
>>331760504
That you're a really dumb nigger
>>331760704
>>game starts way too easy and doesn't get even slightly difficult until after Sur'Kesh
Really? I only played it once shortly after release but I remember Banshees blowing me the fuck out as a Vanguard
>>331760430
Are you on drugs? 10,000 bicycles is about 100 tons.
>>331760801
Nevermind, just realized Sur'Kesh is probably that mission where you get the Krogan female
>>331755890
I like how you can always spot these fake images because those two words obviously come from two different captchas.
>>331760704
The biggest problem of three is that it is supposed to be the conclusion to a trilogy, the second part of which had nothing to do with anything, so it introduced a deus ex microphone that made absolutely no sense (neither in introduction, nor sudden importance, nor explanation/description), only to solve a non-existent "problem", introduced in the last 15 minutes of the game.
There is absolutely no defending this shit.
As a GAME, it might be well and fine. As a STORY, which is its main goal, it fails beyond repair.
>>331760381
All DLC from ME1 and ME2 can be easily pirated. ME3 is a bit trickier but it can still be done.
ME1: just do a basic search for "Bring Down the Sky" and "Pinnacle Station" and just run the .exe files.
ME2: download the unlocker, I think it's called "giveme2entitlements" or something like that and run it. Then download all the DLC .exe files and run them. I'm not sure what the links are, but you can get the .exe files legally from Bioware as well as other sites.
ME3: I'm not sure how to get the big DLCs since I bought them legit. There should be plenty of online guides on how to get around Origin though. You can even unlock the pre-order items by editing your save file.
>>331760992
Each of the three deals with it's own separate story. Nothing Saren did has anything to do with 2 or 3. The focus is on developing shit with Shepard, the squaddies, the Alliance and Cerberus. Regarding the Reapers, they're hardly ever on screen so of course you don't see their story.
The "deus ex machina" was hinted at multiple times throughout 1 and 2, and the "problem" was already vaguely explained by Sovereign way back in ME1.
>>331748337
>>331753385
I'm part of the research team, sauce is critical for further progress in our investigation.
>>331739417
It was supposed to save the human race into a reaper form, which was the race with most potential, the plot twist being that the reapers were the good guys and tried to save the galaxy from the dark energy, with you fucking up and had to spent mass effect 3 rushing to do something about it, of course it was 2deep4u and just cut it out
>>331749314
Oh shit, so this is where that meme comes from?
>>331761465
No, it came from tumblr and wasn't associated with ME3.
>>331742150
The fact that this guy wrote Ashley makes me appreciate her character more than ever.
I'm still mad people shittalked and dismissed her as a "durr racist Christian".
>>331761338
>The "deus ex machina" was hinted at multiple times throughout 1 and 2
What?
Even BioWare didn't know how they were gonna defeat the Reapers back then
>>331761338
>Each of the three deals with it's own separate story.
That's damn bad for a trilogy. Which it was advertised at and which it hinted at being/wanting to be in all the games.
It failed this.
>Nothing Saren did has anything to do with 2 or 3.
That is the problem. Do you even story structure? The antagonist was introduced in 1. Two NEEDED to be finding out about it and how to defeat it. Three, obviously, the conclusion.
>The focus is on developing shit with Shepard, the squaddies, the Alliance and Cerberus.
What shit? Neither (relevant) characters, nor story was developed in 2 or 3. Failure #3.
>Regarding the Reapers, they're hardly ever on screen so of course you don't see their story.
They are introduced as the main antagonist, a galaxy threatening adversary. To be sidelined by a previously next to non-existent "shadow group". You honestly think this is of any quality for anything?
>The "deus ex machina" was hinted at multiple times throughout 1
No.
>and 2, and the "problem" was already vaguely explained by Sovereign way back in ME1.
No. In 1, it was kept all a mystery. That's good. Except for the narrative not being sure on what it wants. Destruction or "harvest".
2 had nothing to do with anything remotely related to "the problem". Not even much with the reapers. It introduced an entirely new and completely unbelievable (as well as comical) antagonist. Baby reaper, again, did not fit logically in the up to then established narrative, nor has it been explained (believably) when it popped up.
>>331755890
>Space opera game isn't grey like muh obsidian and troika games
>Mass Effect 3 was 4 years ago
>The vidya industry is still as retarded as it was back then
Is there no hope?
>>331762186
Stop playing AAA garbage
>>331762186
"AAA" games will never get better, anon
I don't know what kind of big turnaround you're still expecting, it's basically the same problem as Hollywood
The industry itself is fine though
>>331739514
John Walker is the guy who absolutely hates Myst and will go out of his way to insult fans of the game, right?
>>331760507
That and the Reapers really did it in. Cerberus/some other shadowy organization should have been the big villain, like the Shadow Broker or whatever. Intragalactic terrorism plot or something
>>331759867
who are the repeats did someone create them
>>331740051
>I wanted to treat AI with more respect than the tired Pinocchio "I want to be a Real Boy" cliches of Commander Data. The geth are machines. There's absolutely no reason they should want to be organics. They should be allowed to be strong enough to want to better themselves, not change themselves.
And then comes the fucking ending to the Geth in ME3. Man, reading this just makes me sad.
>>331757935
I felt 1 had the best story, it felt so fresh. Maybe a little unpolished and campy in other spots but still memorable.
2 had the best range and depth for characters but everything else in it felt pretty generic. I missed the rpg elements from the first one.
3 was actually pretty good, it tried to balance characters and story with a bit of lore. I played it expecting to be butt blasted by the ending but the dlc had come out by then and it was decent I guess. There were some genuinely emotional moments when you lost your party members, but then again that cheesy fucking dialogue at the end with the old man: "one day my sweet"
>>331763868
>I missed the rpg elements from the first one.
What RPG elements?
>>331750931
Apparently it's harbinger. Which, if true means harbinger is somehow immune to leviathans.
>>331763868
>but the dlc had come out by then and it was decent I guess.
But the DLC (I am guessing you mean Extended Cut) just made things worse. It even introduced new plot holes and logic breaking elements.
See, again, I have no problem with people enjoying these games. But the fact that everyone just glosses over these glaring problems means we won't ever get a quality product that can ALSO be enjoyable.
I was thinking about replaying all 3 ME games just to see how they fair in one go with DLC.
Is it possible to pirate dlcs, seeing as torrents for all 3 games are mostly non existent and do DLC bring anything that matters or fun story wise?
>>331764506
Judging by what you'r saying it seems pretty grim tho.
>>331764887
>Judging by what you'r saying it seems pretty grim tho.
Quite a bit is more or less nitpicking. But the overall things are broken, AS WELL as the details. It just culminates into a giant pile of shit. Subjectively, naturally.
>>331764505
>Harbinger
>Sovereign
>those not being their actual names has no bearing on anything
>them actually having names and giving them to the Geth means jack shit
Goddamn fucking details, man. Just why...
>>331764887
>seeing as torrents for all 3 games are mostly non existent
what? I just recently pirated ME2 and 3 with all DLC
>>331764887
The third torrent by seeds on kat is a trilogy repack, just get that.
>>331765108
Thanks for input, it was too much hassle to lurk private torrents to find whole threelogy with dlcs included anyway.
>>331757935
I liked the idea and the world building.
The game play part where in 2nd and 3hrd game i just had to visit planets to farm resources mindlessly without in dept story telling or actual populace on planets to do quests and story with felt like cheap garbage.
Funnily enough, cause its Bioware, they did this exact same thing in DA:I with the farming of power/forces so you could advance the story.
God damn it those mechanic that they copy pasta from their own game is making me furious.
>>331765370
I might have not been clear, at start I hoped to find all 3 games in a single package with dlcs, as it happens no such thing.
Then i saw vanila ME is scarce to find, and even then for some reason people were saying on torrents that dlc was hard to install(?). Or had complications, guess I'll just have to try it and see how it goes.
>>331765756
Ill give it a shot
>>331763868
I really liked the whole underworld scene that 2 established with places like Illium, Omega and the shadier parts of the citadel
>>331759203
Emperor's New Groove most likely.
>>331757935
They just didn't stick to one fanbase, which gets people angry:
ME1 scratched the sci-fi itch
ME2 invented biotic charge, the single most satisfying ability in any TPS.
ME3 had fantastic multiplayer.
They were good GAMES, but the storytelling turned to shit. So the people that got on board in the FIRST game (storytelling was its strength) are righfully pissed off. But pretending ME2/3 are bad games is kind of silly. It's legit fun to shoot things and use space magic.
>>331767621
>ME1
>good storytelling
meeeeeeeeeh
>>331767621
I never finished ME3 so i didnt even get mad like most people back in the day about the ending.
The game just felt a bit like milking the franchise with overly forcing dramatic story, the ghost kid, and planet farming/gathering allies whatever it was.
Just somewhat enjoyed more ME and ME2 then it, strange.
>>331767621
>mfw going novaguard
I want to reinstall ME3 now
>>331750818
Shivans were Reapers done right.
No talking with the prey, no bullhit justifications, they were more like a force of nature than an actual alien species.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2RAC5l_jQQ
>>331739514
Why do women, casuals, sjws, and weebs all love mass effect? Actually I think I know
>>331742341
Yeah but look at the cutscene before the fight. Shepard pulls out what looks like a hand grenade and sticks it in a random panel.
Where did that come from? Why in this specific area? How does it have two functions; one blow up one that doesn't that we are only aware of AFTER illusive man says we can save the base, which he himself only just realised?
>>331751252
>>331751380
The reapers were aussies.
>>331768517
Because some people who have influence (that smug IGN fuck, for example) said it's above reproach, therefore every connoisseur needs to love it.
>>331747491
>>331739497
>>331739815
what are we supposed to take from this?
>posted on The Escapist forums around 2010
>everybody constantly sucked Bioware's dick, wanted to fuck Tali, talked about how Mass Effect BTFO JRPG's
>now Bioware's considered a joke by the mainstream, instead of just contrarians on /v/
Did the "culture" change, or did Bioware shit the bed that hard?
>>331770692
Take a guess.
>>331770885
>now Bioware's considered a joke by the mainstream, instead of just contrarians on /v/
since when?
>>331770885
>>now Bioware's considered a joke by the mainstream,
Did DA:I sell badly? Because it seems to be received pretty well, at least.
>>331770885
>>now Bioware's considered a joke by the mainstream, instead of just contrarians on /v/
hahahahahaha
>>331747517
it still hurts
>>331770885
Bloodthirsty Donald was my favorite joke from old 4chan, back when we made shit, and didn't just repost reaction faces.
>>331771021
Never gave out numbers but said it had the best launch in terms of units sold for any Bioware title.
>>331738076
>Woah. Freezeframe. This is my life right now. How did I end up here? Yeah I'll tell you, but we're gonna have to go alllll the way bac kto the start...
is this a new meme
>>331771187
no its a trope
>>331770885
>around 2010
>did Bioware shit the bed that hard?
>Dragon Age 2: March 8, 2011
>Mass Effect 3: March 6, 2012
Pretty hard, yeah.
>>331771187
Not new.
>>331771268
Remember TOR in the middle of those two
>>331739514
I beat ME and ME2.
I never knew touched ME3 since everyone on /v/ said it was shit.
>>331770943
A bit of throwaway info about an irrelevant planet wasn't used later?
>>331771335
Isn't TOR going strong? Last I heard it's still growing.
>>331745551
No, he's absolutely right. Thinking that niggers are equal to black people is racist.
>>331771475
It still makes a decent amount of money but on release it was a huge mess with some of the issues still present.
>>331771115
>back when other people made shit. Now everyone's like me, and waits for someone else to deliver.
ftfy
>>331771463
It's a finger to the reader, even in such insignificant throwaway lines. The fact that it's an irrelevant planet, too, is the other hand's finger.
The wording makes it a juvenile taunt.
In short, one big fuck you just for the sake of it.
>>331771187
It's a movie cliche that /tv/ started making dank memes out of, but come to think of it I can't actually name any movies that did this.
>>331771843
How did you take that away from that?
Looks like an easter egg at most.
>>331757320
Eh, it's dumb enough to pass for bioware writing.
