Now that the dust has settled, what are /v/'s final thoughts on Miyazaki's conclusion to the soul's trilogy?
>>331668638
no more are being made?
thank god
That he stopped giving a fuck about Dark Souls after AotA and only puts effort into new spiritual successors.
The way it's shaping up it'll have less unique content than 2/3 of Bloodborne
>Surely THIS will be the one where he brings back DS1 invasions
>My face when they fucked invasions AGAIN
ITS NOT THAT HARD MIYAZAKI. STOP TRYING TO OVERHAUL EVERYTHING. YOU GOT IT RIGHT WITH DARK SOULS
miyazaki confirmed hack
>>331668826
get fucked invasion fags
>>331668804
>We've already seen more new NPCs with actual quest lines than Dark Souls 2 ever had
Nice meme
>>331668638
I haven't been following this at all, so tell me lads, how are the
>covenants
>invasions
>diversity in the world
>weapons>waifus
Demons souls was ok for the start of a new ip
Dark souls was a buggy, unfinished mess with terriblly basic ai, awful bosses, awful areas and a lack of fun.
Dark souls 2 improved on the gameplay but was still a bad game, not as awful as dark souls though.
Das3 will be more of the same
>>331668638
Confirmed hack.
He got lucky with Demons and Dark 1.
I will be suprised if he manages to make a good game again.
>>331668826
Dark Souls already fucked invasions with those cracked red orbs. Only DeS got it right.
>>331668826
>My face when they fucked invasions AGAIN
What happened?
>>331668638
It's pissing "Dark Souls 2" fans the fuck off so I'm happy with it.
>>331668826
What the fuck are you talking about?
Invasion mechanics are back to the way they were in 1.
>>331668956
All good.
>covenants
We've seen the trophies for the covenants, the good ones from past games are back and there are a few new ones we don't know about yet
>invasions
Back to Dark Souls 1 with actually functional and quick connections if the network test is anything to go by
>diversity in the world
We haven't seen a lot of areas yet, but the ones we have seen are pretty distinct from one another, even if one resembles an area in Blooborne quite a bit
>weapons
We've seen around 40 unique weapons so far, and people only got to show off stuff in the first ~5 hours.
>waifus
Too early to decide
>>331669221
Nothing, invasions are back to Dark Souls 1, except with better net code.
>>331669221
>>331669281
You can't invade a host unless he has a phantom with him. Phantoms can still heal and you can't invade anyone who has a lower level weapon than you
>>331669221
You can only invade gank squads now. They basically took the buddy system from BB and put it into Dark Souls. The only known way to invade a solo player is to have the solo player pick up your red sign, or use a dried finger. So basically 99% of invasions are going to be 1v3 nonsense.
To top it all off, for the host to be able to summon phantoms, they'll already have HP advantage from being in Lord of Cinder mode. Even further than that though, they're not just scaling off of soul level anymore, but reinforced weapon level as well. So we don't even know how that works, but assuming it works with some consistency, it means that it works off your highest leveled weapon. So if you have a +9 axe that you don't use at all, you'll still be invading +9 players with your +2 Straight sword or some bullshit like that.
The PvP for this game died before it even released.
>>331669392
>You can't invade a host unless he has a phantom with him.
But that's wrong and has already been confirmed to just be for the network test. Dark Souls 2 network test was the same.
>Phantoms can still heal and you can't invade anyone who has a lower level weapon than you
Phantoms being able to heal isn't a negative, and [citation needed] for the second part.
>>331669496
>You can only invade gank squads now.
But that's wrong
>>331669505
>>331669378
>>331669281
>>331669221
>they dont know
By using Dried Fingers when in the LoC mode, you can be invaded solo.
ネットワークテストと同様に、闇霊は協力霊がいるホストにしか侵入できないのですか?
いいえ。薪の王化したホストが干からびた指を使用するなどの一定条件により、協力霊のいないホストの世界に侵入できます。ただし、闇霊が数的有利になることはありません。
Can dark spirits only invade the world of host with white phantoms like in the Network Test?
No. Under certain conditions such as host in the Lord of Cinder using Dried Fingers, it is possible to invade the world where no white phantoms present. However, dark spirit will never have an advantage in number.
Edit 3: More and more info
Red Sign Soapstone confirmed, and you can summon them even if you are not in the LoC mode and even after the area boss defeated!
闇霊を呼び出す赤色の召喚サインに触れることで闇霊を召喚できます。エリアボスを撃破後のエリアでも赤色召喚サインによる闇霊の呼び出しが可能です。また赤色召喚サインを呼び出す際には火の力を得ていない(薪の王化)状態でも召喚可能です。
You can summon by touching red summon sign that summons dark spirit. You can still summon dark spirits in an area where the area boss defeated. Also you can touch red summon sign even if you are not in the Lord of Cinder mode.
>>331669505
He's talking about today's news about using the dried finger while in ember form, which is one of an unspecified number of conditions you can meet to invade someone with no phantoms.
>>331669052
>Dark souls 2 improved on gameplay
I don't mind only being able to invade someone with a phantom summoned. As long as the retarded Seed of Tree of Giants doesn't return it's pretty fair.
>Invader + Enemies + Trap
vs
>Host + Phantoms
Is totally reasonable. It's only an issue if you're a fucking duel faggot.
>>331669603
>He didn't read past the first seven words
>>331669904
>I don't mind only being able to invade someone with a phantom summoned. As long as the retarded Seed of Tree of Giants doesn't return it's pretty fair.
i got bad news for you...
>>331669653
>Under certain conditions
ok yeah, I'm seeing this no problem. So what's the issue? Are people just assuming the other conditions are just going to be going to nightmare areas like in BB?
>>331669642
>>331669653
Where are you getting this from?
Besides, he mentions dried finger as "certain conditions, such as...", not the only condition.
If un-invited solo invasions weren't possible, Way of Blue/Blue Sentinels would not be a thing.
>>331669957
Did they at least fix it by having the Seed also allow summoned Phantoms to turn on the host if they want just like it turns the Invader's help against them?
If there's a risk to the host in using it by having it turn the entire session into a free for all it's fine.
>>331670231
official site FAQ translation
>>331670231don't point out the obvious uncertainty anon, we can't shitpost about it if you do
>>331670246
no one has any idea
no one even knows if using the dried finger is the only way to get invaded soloaside from the FAQ of course, which confirms that it isn't.
>>331668638
>Dust has settled
Game isn't even out yet. Never change /v/.
>>331670938
yes it is, im watching streams of it right now
>>331671054
Mind linking them?
Oh quit your bellyaching, they'll patch the game and let the player have the option of being invaded whenever. And we don't know what all the covenants do yet so there may be multiple ways around this. Fucking babies.
>>331668638
>Now that the dust has settled
Literally no one has played it yet, the dust hasn't even started.
>>331668638
Why is giving a thumbs up?
>>331671221just search for das3 on twitch, im not risking people reporting it
>>331671228
b-but I wanna laugh at people for not handlin' the bantz
>>331669281
>resembles an area in Bloodborne
Tell me it's the fishing hamlet. I need my gloom.
>>331671452
Yeah, found it already.
Surprised it's not being shut down instantly, Twitch seems to have an instant-alert system in place for people streaming unreleased games usually.
>>331671540
Nah, Hemwick. And it's not really as similar-looking as people made it out to be at first.
>>331669496
weapon scaling sounds pretty cool, but it'll be impossible to find people to invade
>>331671304
Except, you know, the people playing ht right now
>>331671328
He's sifting sand(ash?) in his hand
Hopefully they'll stop making these games and I'll have to stop hearing about how these ugly, sluggish, half finished messes are the saving grace of video games.
Bloodborne was decent but everything else was pure dogshit.
>>331671540
the settlement resembles hemwick and the cathedral of the deep is 70% ripped assets from cainhurst castle.
>>331669642
JUST
>>331671228
>they'll patch the game
Just like they patched the resolution, 60 FPS bugs and awful netcode in Dark Souls, right? Just like they patched the hitboxes in Dark Souls and Dark Souls 2, right?
>>331671625
>hemwick
Bah!
>>331671729
Well, cainhurst us my third favorite are. I hope this game has something of it's own though.
TOP
>>331671708
Horrible b8.
>>331672058
You can't prove me wrong, though. All of the games are unfinished, sluggish, ugly and pitifully easy.
>>331671945
Outside of blightown, I never had any frame drops, or the other problems you mentioned.
>hitboxes
I played scholar, not vanilla so, guess I dodged a bullet?
>>331672174
>I never had any frame drops
If you got to 60 FPS and went down a ladder you fell through the map and couldn't make certain jumps.
>or the other problems you mentioned
If you played Dark Souls you had resolution locks and awful netcode/poorly designed covenants.
>>331672387
>If you got to 60 FPS and went down a ladder you fell through the map and couldn't make certain jumps.
Wrong. There are two ladders this sometimes happens for, the one leading from the sunlight altar bonfire down to the rats below the hellkite drake bridge and the extremely long one leading from hellkite drake bridge down to lower undead burg. It's not consistent either.
There are no jumps you can't make on 60 FPS, the far ones are just a bit harder.
>>331672713
No, it's all ladders. Also hitboxes were tied to FPS somewhat and you could get phantom hits. Either way, the original point that none of this shit was patched stands.
>>331668826
A guy from GameInformer messaged Bandai Namco and confirmed you will not need the Dried Finger to be invaded. 1v1 is in. Either earlier was an incorrect translation or misinformation
>>331669110
Sure buddy... he got lucky with Demon Souls, Dark Souls AND Bloodborne amirite? What a hack!
>kill yourself you autistic sperglord
>>331672860
>No, it's all ladders.
It absolutely is not.
The just placed the ends of the two I mentioned slightly inside the ground, so they fuck up sometimes at 60 FPS.
>>331672991
>lucky
>Dark Souls
>Demon Souls
>both unfinished, ugly and easy
?
>>331672929
best be providing a sauce for this negro
>>331672387
>If you got to 60 FPS and went down a ladder you fell through the map and couldn't make certain jumps.
I've clocked 200+ hours in DaS with 60 fps.
I only went through the world once. Actually, the most frequent and annoying issue I experienced was getting stuck at bonfires. So I just made an easy keybind to toggle 60 fps and never had any issues since then.
>>331673790
The point is it was never patched.
>>331673873
It wasn't patched because the game was never intended to run at more than 30 FPS to begin with.
>>331673965
The point is it was never patched, nor were any of the game breaking issues.
>>331672929
it is very odd namco would make such a fuck up on their official q&a though, assuming 1v1 invasions are in.
>>331674227
For all we know, it's just a translation error.
>>331668638
All i wanted was a boss fight that had a live hollow orchestra. the hollows would be the source of the music and killing them would distort/Fuck up the soundtrack
PVP SAVED
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