explain this
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and before you say "but video games are for kids" consider this picture I took yesterday at a walmart check out line
Call me when magazines have little girls dressed like that printed on the front covers
Target audience.
Yes it is possible that kids will see the magazines with kinky pictures on them, but the point is that those magazines aren't being advertised and sold TO them.
The entire point of age restriction isn't to create a walled garden where feeble young minds can't be tainted by the horrors of sex and nudity, but that kids need to understand that they're too young and they aren't meant to search for those things, and they aren't meant to take them lightly.
A young kid seeing sex or violence with the awareness that they're "forbidden" things will grow differently from a kid who lives in an environment where sex and violence are treated as normal things.
Because most nip rpg plots are bildungsromans or other coming-of-age stories, with which they use 16 year olds, who in their society are straddling between the childhood of middle school and the adulthood of secondary/post-secondary, trade school, or jobs, in the same way western stories depict 18 year olds doing much the same. However, 16 year old sex and nudity is strictly illegal in the US and a lot of Europe, so the nip stories that have 16 year olds coming into adult life and society often have to be censored in the west so as not to depict what would be considered child pornography.
In other words, those dirty Jews are trying to take our video games away.
I think part of it is trying not to alienate a general audience. Seeing skimpy pictures of live women at least makes sense to be attracted to, there's a bit of a stigma of you being a werido or virgin if you're going after the panty lines of made up animuu women. Companies don't want to appeal to that crowd at risk of warding off people who look down on a bunch of hentai fappers
>>331444528
It might sound strange but the new craze right now is coloring books for adults. My sister is really into them, and I know a lot of women in particular are really buying into it.
That being said you are right, they are usually associated with children, and a child would still be interested in looking at that book.
Does a child know what the words "wild sex" mean though, does it matter if they do? I don't think we should hide that kind of thing from children really.
I feel the same way about game boxes, its true that the standards fluctuate unfairly for certain mediums.
>>331445578
>A young kid seeing sex or violence with the awareness that they're "forbidden" things will grow differently from a kid who lives in an environment where sex and violence are treated as normal things.
Yeah, one will become stunted and maladjusted, the other will be healthy and developed.
Hypocrisy. We don't deny it
Simply put, because the women on the left choose to wear that.
Those characters on the right can't exercise any agency over their wardrobe.
>>331444431
>left: ugly women
>right: simply drawn ugly women
Glad I have a superior taste in men
>>331445524
The girls on the fucking magazine literally look younger.
>>331446245
they all look like 30+ disgusting whores you mongol
>>331446063
I don't know why you switched order, but that's precisely right.
>>331444431
AMERICA!
>>331444431
Because videogames are for childrens.
Tabloid are for adjusted adults.
Who the fuck cares, just play the games you autistic retards.
>>331446178
>CARTOON GIRLS HAVE RIGHTS YOU GUYS!
>>331444528
>only kids eat candy and use coloring books
>>331444431
Because all weaboo cucks should kill themselves, and this is one step closer towards that.
>>331444431
OP, i know you've been on 4chan for a while, but the real world won't support your disgusting loli fetish you sick fuck.
>>331444431
Because it's a freemarket you fucking COMMUNIST
>>331444431
>>331444528
fucking god, the autism, it's unreal
>>331445838
>However, 16 year old sex and nudity is strictly illegal in the US
Sex with a 16 year old is legal in just about every state but Nevada.
>>331446617
I forgot a manchild like you would use a coloring book.
>>331446231
But being gay is a disease anon
>>331444431
because the SJW crowd is composed of spineless faggots with 0 backbone. you don't see these guys spouting their shit against rappers either, and their videos are often way, way worse then most "triggering" things in vidya. It's easy to pick on a dev, but it's much harder to pick on the wolrd of "la mode"
>>331446612
That's the only argument that makes sense, though.
>>331444528
I've actually heard of this trend of people actually using those coloring books
Those aren't coloring books for kids, they are fucking complex as fuck, and I guess they are used to calm stress or anxiety or something.
>>331446857
Fuck off, dumbass.
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Books-Coloring-Grown-Ups/zgbs/books/11357541011
>>331444431
I gotta be honest. I like the censored version of the bottom better because stockings really do it for me.
Because no one wants to see your pedo weeb bullshit except you. Keep your mental illness to yourself.
Retailers don't require it. Game devs/localizers do it of their own accord.
>>331444528
Motherfucking Starburst for only 78cents? Sign me the fuck in.
>>331447223
but they obscure the fact that she's not wearing panties
>>331446845
Selling a commercial product depicting such a thing is not.
>>331447131
Yeah, they are for older people. I know someone who published/is working on publishing one.
>>331447387
But stockings more than make up for that.
>>331446231
Being mentally ill isn't something you should be glad about anon
>>331444431
if you want to know the truth it has to do with propaganda.
>>331447668
And the jews
>>331447480
I wasn't aware any of those game depicted actual sex.
>>331447668
if you want to know the truth it has to do with control.
>>331446178
This.
99.9999999999% of scantily-clad cartoon/vidya women are drawn by men for other men, and generally don't have a female intermediary.
>>331444431
murrica.
>>331447968
So what's the problem?
One is for adults
One is for kids
If the world was ran by autists like you there would be pictures of mlp and Pokémon on packs of cigarettes.
>>331447968
So in a wierd way they are fapping with another mans hand?
>>331448052
Not my problem, I'm explaining theirs.
>>331444431
2D girls are 2pure
>>331447968
Actually, a lot of Japanese fanarts and h-manga / doujinshi are drawn by women.
>>331448095
I don't understand what you are implying.
Cigarette companies want to (use to) advertise to kids, but they aren't allowed to anymore.
>>331447968
The nepnep games are all drawn by a woman
because american principles are retarded
>>331447968
But they're not fucking real beings.
Why should they have 'agency' in the first place?
>>331448095
>One is for kids
>CERO B is for 12 and up
>>331444431
because games are for kids lol
>>331444431
Because we're literally retarded and tabloid magazines are "okay because muh freeeedumm of speech" but videogames are evil and corrupting our children
t. american
>>331448419
Im implying ass and titties have no place on a game meant for kids just like a minecraft review wouldnt belong on pornhub.
>>331448374
No they aren't faggot, almost all of them are drawn by dirty neck beards such as yourself
I think it's because the west still attributes drawn images with children. You can tell by the way we handle cartoons over here. If it's drawn, then the show is either a raunchy adult sitcom or it's a children's show. No exceptions. The west just doesn't like to depict mature images through cartoons or drawings. Many people still believe kids will mistake these drawings/anime/etc. for childrens cartoons, solely based on the fact that they're animated.
The only way you can get away with a mature animated figure in the west is by putting in a show with goofy, cartoony characters like Family Guy or the Simpsons.
Hell, animation doesn't even get a spot in the academy awards for best picture or screenplay. They gave animation a special section because people in the west really don't give a fuck about it unless the film begins with "Disney presents.."
In the 90's there was that uproar about violent video games. Yet TV and movies were FULL of violence at the time. People were campaigning for Mortal Kombat to be censored while at the same time, 1992, we get another Lethal Weapon movie and Basic Instinct, but all that shit is cool apparently. It's live action, so it's OK.
This is why Ralph Bakshi has had a tough time in the industry. His entire body of work is animation based on mature themes, so they slap him with an X rating every chance they get. A movie about a fucking animated cat going through his trials and tribulations in a dank urban sprawl was considered pornographic to many in the audience.
I could go on for days about how twisted our view of animation is in the west. You can thank Disney for most of it.
>>331449015
but why? Kids see ass and titties everyday they are near women. It's a natural part of growing up in a human society.
And where do MLP and Pokemon come into this, which is the original point of my confusion.
>>331448207
I've never thought of it like that, but that's pretty accurate/hillarious
>>331448580
>12
Its meant for kids
Are you implying they should put 12-17 ratings so you know when to grow the fuck up?
>>331444431
because anyme women can't consent, but this is something the japanese society hasn't realized yet
>>331449102
Japanese men have no beards.
Checkmate atheist.
>>331446036
>>331446617
>>331446828
>>331447131
>>331447189
>>331447487
Normalfags are fucking weird.
The west has a very strong puritan religious right that is very actively trying to bring them back to the days of sexual repression. All intellectual movements start with kids. Kids play more videogames than read magazines. So they call upon their almighty scapegoat "pedophilia" to force the devs to censor any images that might "corrupt" any child that might happen to play the game. Under the guise of "protecting the children" they are slowly but surely taking back control of the media and in turn western society again.
>>331444431
Ones on the left adult women.
On the right the top one looks like a child and I support that little butterfly.
the bottom looks like an adult woman and adding leggings is unneeded, unless you find legging sexy.
>>331449206
Because thats what society deems socially acceptable. Kids dont understand sex like adults.
>And where do MLP and Pokemon come into this, which is the original point of my confusion.
Metaphor
>>331444431
>7th Dragon
For the fucking children, alright.
>Tactics Ogre
I.. I'm okay with this. Actually, that's better.
>>331449759
>>331450051
Fuck off.
>>331449701
>back to the days of sexual repression
Do you live under a church?
>>331444431
I'm so glad they chose to cover her butt with a butterfly. God only knows what would happen if children knew about butts.
>>331450158
>Im a child who can't handle the fact that other people have opinions so instead of debating I'm just going to tell them to fuck off.
>>331450158
>not liking leggings
fuck off
Mostly Xenophobia. "Normal American women" vs "creepy Japanese drawings."
There's also the animation = kids stigma that's been present here since I've been a kid.
>>331450310
>fat eceleb
Not even surprised.
Kill yourself cancer.
>>331450339
>cover alterations are OK if I like it!
Again, fuck off retard.
>>331444431
>>331444528
Every time I go to the store, they have those magazines hidden behind a piece of cardboard or plastic.
>>331450161
It might be hard to believe since you've lived probably your whole life in a sexually progressive society, but back in the day, (early-mid 20th century) sexual expression and exploration was very looked down upon. They even had a "self abuse" scare where people considered it dangerous physically/mentally for a boy to masturbate.
Pictures like this aren't a joke, they were actual things people believed.
Masturbating boys were something to be punished. The religiious right has always used scare tactics to control and repress people. Witch hunts, Self abuse, homosexuals, devil music(rock and roll), Pokemon/harry potter and pedophila. All the same thing, just with a different coat of paint. It's all about control. Covering the girls on your videogames is just a tiny part of their influence. It's so widespread people don't even know they are being controlled anymore.
>>331451025
So no cover should ever be different? We should just copy all the JP covers even if they suck donkey balls?
>>331450559
Real women vs drawings
FTFY tumblr
>>331451145
I believe he's calling you a retard for thinking religious people have any kind of power over the government. Casual sex and all that shit is around an all time high, I think.
>>331451179
I have yet to see a case where it's justified, would be curious to be proven wrong, but in these cases it isn't justified.
>>331444431
The left is targeted primarily at women. The right is targeted primarily at men. The left is also more likely to be staffed by women than the right.
Women displaying/viewing women in a sexual manner is considered "empowering" and "sex positive". Men displaying/viewing women in a sexual manner is considered "objectifying" and "degrading".
>>331446017
this is the real answer
>>331451145
forgot pic, lol
>>331451145
the religious right doesn't control shit when it comes to video games. remember when fox news complained about mass effect having lesbian aliens and everyone laughed at them and ignored it? then dragon age came out and you could have gay sex and use blood magic to summon demons and you didn't hear a thing because they had all given up trying to censor video games because they were too worried about gay marriage and shit in real life.
>>331451314
they don't have to control the government if they control people.
Game covers are being changed and censored, so they must be doing something right.
>>331451586
I don't think it's the religious people doing this.
>>331447189
>be an adult
>but be such a whiney baby you need to pretend you're a child to cope with life
>>331451145
this
>>331451314
Sex is more acceptable then ever and in every way people can think up.
>>331451145
Replace "religious right" with "feminist left" and you'd have the situation we have now.
Stay mad weebs
>>331451680
People are stupid. They don't know what hobbies are so they have to be told by the evening news. This just happens to be a big new thing so they don't actually have to think about what they want to do.
>>331451725
Why would I be mad that lolis are a protected freedom in America?
>>331451386
>>331451530
It's sexist to assume no woman is involved in the development of video games in japan, specially when talking about the art team.
>>331451339
Skyward Sword
Okamiden
Patron 3
Are just a few off the top of my head that have Awful JP boxart and the US version was a welcome change.
>>331451725
>>331451967
Legal here in the US. Feels great, bro.
>>331445524
They do. In Japan at least.
>>331452003
Involved in development != running the companies. Cosmo is (or was) run/founded by a woman, whereas no major video game publisher or development house can make the same claim.
>>331449701
This. It's a silly witch hunt.
>>331452070
>Okamiden
You're kidding, right?
>>331444528
>Walmart checkout line
>clearly an outdoor vendor at a street corner
You ain't fooling anyone, anon
>>331444431
Video games are for little children
>>331452645
>I disagreed with one of the 3 examples that means zero examples exist and I win.
>>331452885
I never even said that, are you autistic? I'm just questioning why you put Okamiden there.
>>331452848
like you?
>>331451386
>staffed by women
>>331452339
So you are just changing goal posts? What about the other magazines that are run/founded by men? Are those ok or objectifying?
>>331452981
Because I think the US/PAL cover was better.
Why focus on 1 disagreement like it destroyed my whole point?
>>331444431
One is a normal magazine for Americans, the other is strange video games for weebs. Since it doesn't seem American enough it is censored more because they don't know whether the content might be really creepy inside. They know gossip magazines aren't creepy or weird though because normies read them. And normies determine what is acceptable and what is NOT.
>>331452681
are you retarded and blind?
>>331444431
Video games are for children.
>>331444431
I thought it was funny when the "censored" Tharja pic, which covered up literally nothing with a curtain, looked more explicit than the actual image.
>>331453116
A generic background is far worse than actual artwork, so no, it's pretty bad.
Because I didn't care about being proven wrong, otherwise I wouldn't have added that bit about wanting to be out of curiosity. Your point was fine, and I agreed with it.
>>331444431
One is marketed towards an adult audience while the other is still seen by and large as a children's hobby.
>>331444431
I'm sure others have already called you a fucking idiot in this thread, but I'll call you one as well: You're a fucking idiot, OP.
The shit on the left is being marketed mostly towards adults. The shit on the right is being marketed towards a more general audience.
Extremely simple.
>>331453007
Holy shit! How will he ever recover from that burn anon? I bet you have to wear sunglasses to stop from burning everyone like that guy off street fighter.
>>331444431
>Only the weebshit gets censored
Everytime
>>331453384
Fatal Frame V was rated M and still had sexy outfits removed. No children were ever going to be involved. It didn't change the rating.
>>331453384
Why would adults read the garbage on the left there? They should be reading edifying literature such as War and Peace if they're real adults.
notice how it's always the weeaboos complaining that their pedo games got "censored" while nobody else gives a fuck
>>331453727
Notice how you're a faggot?
>>331453675
Because reading's gross or some such bullshit. The magazine has more picture per square inch than word, so it's not really reading.
>>331453621
The censors are aware that no one abides by the ratings. Everything in any video game must be fit for kids, while film and other mediums can actually have content inappropriate for kids.
>>331453792
you don't have to make it so obvious that you're mad weeb
>>331444528
>coloring books
my mum buys some occasionally because she likes the design
but she doesn't go color them
>>331444431
Damn, did they actually change the cover of 7th Dragon? I checked on Amazon and they have the cover with the butterfly. Anything else they change?
>amerifaggots
>>331453792
Got eeeeem
>>331453873
weeb is better than gay amerifaggget
>>331446231
>Glad im a degenerate and proud of it
tumblr is that way -->
>>331454149
kill yourself ahmed
>>331446036
>>331446617
>>331446828
>>331447131
>>331447189
>>331447487
Sounds cheaper than Lego I might look into it
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND POST BEST VIDYA LOLI
>>331453401
did you literally not read the second post?
>>331444431
>>331444528
>expecting society to play by reasonable, consistent rules
You're going to have a hard life.
>>331454115
not even american or gay
but both would still be better than being weeb
You've lost once you've stopped denying weeb
>>331454286
I just got rid of all mine because I'm under investigation for child molestation.
Is shota OK?
>>331447968
Not true, a fair amount of character designers are female.
>>331454393
i will be here forever just for your asshurt cunt
>google "adult coloring book"
>surprised I can't see one cock
>see this shit instead
I mean, some of the pictures look relaxing but fuck spending the hours actually coloring that, guess I just don't get it
>>331454624
It helps retards forget about stress due to the amount of concentration requires. People capable of thought can concentrate on other things with the same effect.
>>331454483
you would be surprised how many minecraft lets plays are on pornhub
>>331454624
I can understand there being a certain kind of zen to coloring stuff. It's one of the reasons why you do it as a kid. But I think if you're spending hours upon hours in those books you might have a bit of a problem.
>>331453869
>The censors are aware that no one abides by the ratings.
Are you fucking joking here. No of course they're not "aware", do you think they do their job just for funsies? They are deciding what age group that content is appropriate for.
Any sexualized content just makes it M for Mature, if it's just juvenile humor you might get T for Teen.
But if you are already M-rated, and your edits won't lower the rating either way, then there's no reason to censor anything.
Violent western games (and a lot of western media in general) seem to get away with exposing kids to this stuff and parents don't care, in comparison to Jap stuff which is frequently censored or lambasted as inappropriate, even when it's clearly a game made for adults.
Like Americans are okay with their kids getting blasted by subliminal messages and constant ads on cable TV, or feeding their kid's addiction to consumerism, or buying their teen daughter vapid, complex-inducing fashion mags, but god forbid I see cleavo or part of a buttcheek on the cover of my son's handheld game.
The changes are so small in some cases you would seriously need to squint to even tell the difference. Yet it still keeps happening.
Who are these changes for? The only people who point them out are all on the internet. IRL parents will happily buy whatever game their kid nags them for.
fucks sake my brother is 12 and hes already moved on from harmless minecraft to PS4 cowadooty black ops online with his friends. kids aren't even kids anymore.
>>331454468
LMAOing @ ur life
>>331448550
Because it is still representation, I mean look at /v/ as an example. Years of seeing characters that are sculpted and built have made everyone on edge and shit on eachother for being manlets or cucks or fatfucks.
Lets be for real nigga, it doesn't matter if they are real or not because it has effects on the real world, are you really gonna try and say shit like this doesn't happen when disney literally created furries back in the day.
Its not as extreme in japan where they have people dedicate themselves to remaining virgins for pop stars and getting depressed because real life isn't like their comic books.
When you have a hobby that limits your ability to be sociable in the physical world you start drawing way too much out if it, and over time when all of your base interaction is with fake characters it hits hard.
>>331454989
>Implying most people here didnt play Golden Eye and Conker as kids
Nigga pls.
>>331454908
>>331454851
Yeah, I suppose I can see just losing yourself in one of those for a while as a somewhat nice piece of escapism, but stuff like THIS picture just confuses me and seems autistic
When was /v/ first exposed to pornography
hentai at 7 real shit a year later
DA CHIDRUNS
>>331454989
remember that one poll people posted years ago to make fun of americans where people said they would rather their children see bare titties or someone being beheaded than two men kissing? now games are full of homo shit and no one cares. who are the changes for?
>>331454851
>>331455234
I was first exposed to adult coloring books when I was talking to a lady on a dating site. She seemed interesting enough in the fact that she had set up a 3DS wifi hotspot spoofer to get all the street passes every day... but then it seemed like she was obsessed with those coloring books.
>>331453093
The fact remains that tabloids and women's magazines have a predominantly female audience, and video games have a predominantly male audience.
>>331455316
Humans are a bisexual species anon
People just wanna stick their dick where it feels good and since sex in america is so common place throughout the culture and we are creatures of indulgence its just no big deal.
>>331455097
>Because it is still representation, I mean look at /v/ as an example. Years of seeing characters that are sculpted and built have made everyone on edge and shit on eachother for being manlets or cucks or fatfucks.
Then why are 99.9999999999% of gamers still manlets, cucks, fatfucks and beanpoles?
>>331455821
Flavor of the month meme
>>331454908
>I can understand there being a certain kind of fun to playing video games. It's one of the reasons why you do it as a kid. But I think if you're spending hours upon hours in those games you might have a bit of a problem.
>>331455219
i think the most realistic games of today have a more profound effect because it no longer looks like a video game. the "game" quality that makes it "fun" rather than "unhealthily addictive".
I dunno, maybe I'm wrong. But stuff like COD nowadays feels like it's training us to be okay, even desensitized, to killing increasingly real looking virtual people.
the shitty graphics of older gens helped your brain distinguish it as a game imo
>>331444431
What I hate about this shit is that it's like they go over these pictures with a fine-tooth comb LOOKING for things to censor.
>explain this
pic related
>>331455506
>I don't understand the difference between sexual liberation and depictions of women in fantasy not matching real life parallels
The problem is that female characters are nothing like women, and I dont mean MS MAN FACE should be a thing. Just saying between misplaced militant feminism and guys, noone can make a good female character that is believable or at least not the fucking generic bs we always get.
>>331447968
>99.9999999999%
A little lower than half of character designers are women, you cuck.
>>331456029
Reported rapes and molestations are insanely low compared to the ones that actually happen.
Kind of the inverse for America.
>>331456029
I think you mean rate of rape REPORTING there.
Pre-feminist cultures like Japan tend to be more likely to put rape on the hush-hush and have women be less encouraged to come forward.
>>331449701
>>331450161
>>331451145
I know this may sound crazy to somebody who's lived their entire life in a blue state and therefore has had the privilege to make liberals the mainstream to which they are the edgy countercultural rebel, but sexual repression is alive and well, you would know that if you bothered to leave the house
>back in the day
For real? Are you fucking serious?
so you're telling me I just imagined getting spanked senseless with a wooden paddle and locked in a broom closet half-naked during elementary school for looking at another student longingly? Authority figures terrifying me into the thought that if I masturbated I was going straight to hell? Shit was so deeply ingrained to me I would burn myself for thinking sexual thoughts about guys and telling people no sex before marriage was the only correct path until I turned 16, then I actually got into a relationship and cracked hard because the most repressed people end up the ones into the freakiest shit
Live in the south and get back to me kidand this is why I get so inordinately pissed when people try to shove their puritanism on me as if being a preachy rightwinger telling everybody how to live their lives is edgy, counterculture, unexpected, and not something I've been putting up with for my entire life
>adult coloring books
Are millennials the generation of manchildren and pampered princesses?
>>331456150
>>331456217
I don't know why everyone says this. Sure, they may be a bit lower than the actual, like it is in every society, but definitely not enough to close that gap. It's just a fact that they have less crime overall, and yes, less sexual crime as well.
>>331456029
Those are the ones reported
>>331455859
Because of how long they have had their masculinity compromised by videogame characters that outpace them in every aspect.
It's why most gamers have body image issues, confidence issues, and feel like they dont understand women, or they don't understand them. Because their common representation of men is burly muscly military men.
>>331456420
>less sexual crime as well.
Nah.
>>331456420
and the non PC answer for this is Japan doesn't have white guilt so they don't take in hordes of raping 3rd worlders.
>>331456420
>less crime overall
>less sexual crime
You don't know jack shit about Japan.
>>331444431
Mothers are the main buyers of these games and they dont want sexual content on the cover of things they hand over to their sons.
>>331456430
>>331456217
>that repulse of sjw scum
>>331455973
I think you are reading too far into it, it does have effects, but there are plenty of alternatives to those games (the alternatives even outweigh them) and its more of a correlation you are drawing from your own head about the over exposure of said games due to being in a majorly 18+ environment
jealousy
>>331456150
>>331456217
>>331456430
>the FACTS and STATISTICS are WRONG
>all that is important are my FEELINGS that there are way more rapes than are reported!
>no I can't prove it... because proof is the tool of a PATRIARCHY!
This is what happens when an entire generation is raised by liberals.
>>331456568
Are you actually implying that they have girls/woman being raped/sexually assaulted at as high a rate? Hell, most places you can have a drunk chick stumbling around in a mini-skirt at 3 in the morning, and nothing happens to her. Try that in a one of our big cities.
>>331456713
Again, you think they actually have more crime than the U.S., England?
>>331456540
If you let fiction to affect you that much then YOU have problems, not the fiction.
>>331456769
You don't need to be a SJW to know that Japan, and Asian cultures in general, look down on reporting crime, and have high rates of unreported sexual crime.
>>331454513
>>331456140
I said "scantily-clad cartoon/vidya women", not "cartoon/women women in general". It's just common knowledge that women tend to be more modest when it comes to portraying their gender than men are.
>>331456420
>Less Crime
>Less Sexual Crime
Yakuza is to japan what the Mafia was to Italy, organised crime is prevalent as fuck, sexual crime is such a problem that they have separate cars on some trains just for women.
If you are going to make a comparison, america only has a higher rate of violent sexual assault that results in death.
>>331454286
I MEAN IT
SHOTAS ARE FINE TOO
>>331456130
Everyone knows, nobody will say because google images exists.
>>331457078
>what are neps?
>>331456993
>2016
>Not being socially liberal
They're not liberals, they're just idiots.
>>331457012
Don't bather arguing with them, they're fully committed to the narrative that a racial homogeneous country like Japan is a crime ridden rape fest, despite literally every piece of information saying that's not true.
When confronted with the facts, they will simply yell "SECRET RAPES!" over and over until you leave.
>>331446036
>adult coloring books
God damn normies are weird.
>>331457012
>Are you actually implying that they have girls/woman being raped/sexually assaulted at as high a rate?
Yes.
>>331457169
OK.
>>331449373
That's a comeback to you man?
Only projecting 12-17 year olds think "growing up" means jackshit.
>>331457078
>"It's just common knowledge"
>tfw I know this will be your excuse not to provide proof
>because you know it's bullshit
>>331447035
>you don't see these guys spouting their shit against rappers either
yes you do, all the time in fact. Did you ever think that because you likely care about and read about vidya a lot more than hip hop maybe you just notice it more on the vidya side?
I mean if you really think people dont criticize rappers you are living in a bubble.
>>331449676
Looks like those Normalfags weren't so normal after all.
>>331450263
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JphDdGV2TU
>>331456420
>didn't say "per capita"
I see what you did there.
>>331449450
This is fake, please tell me its fake.
>>331457310
Hm, maybe the text is preventing it.
Fine.
It's Monobeno.
The girls blink. You can take a screenshot mid-blink.
Smug face - captured.
>>331457186
Why would anyone with any sense of self awareness choose to be a cuck
>>331456345
sounds like a personal problem. I suggest seeing a therapist.
>>331444528
>>331446036
>>331449676
>>331457240
>>331446828
>>331447131
http://thebiggestproblemintheuniverse.com/episode-64/
>>331456993
just because data exists doesnt mean its infallible. Certainly it shouldn't be discounted immediately, but you also have to consider the context of the data and in that vein we can see it might not be super accurate.
Ignoreing data is retarded, but taking data at its face value and not evaluating further is just as retarded
>>331457078
The writer of the Sengoku Rance series is a woman. The artist of the Neptunia series is a woman. There is a popular lolicon manga series called "Kodomo no Jikan", which you've probably heard of, that was written and illustrated by a woman. Women have also done a shit load of works you've probably fapped numerous times to on exhentai without knowing. Don't underestimate the perversion of Japanese women.
>>331457063
>know
>all the factual data and statistics are wrong because patriarchy!
>my preconceived notions about feminism are right because my womens studies professor told me so!
that's now how knowledge works, anon
>>331457475
>I suggest seeing a therapist
do you really think I'm not doing that already, therapy is not a magic cure-all
>>331457471
Because they have a massive inferiority complex, to the point of fetishism. That combined with the Taboo of interracial sex is heavy.
>>331457601
Or I'm just stating that you have a higher likelihood of getting away with rape in Japan because of the ridiculous amount of unreported crime there. Go have some fun.
>>331457409
I hate that all these idiots are labelled as liberal when they couldn't be any further away from it.
>>331457012
Nigga I actually go to bars, that shit happens commonly and nothing happens to them.
Japan DOES have a high crime rate, they have one of the largest centralized organized crime groups in the world. Mugging/extortion/pickpocketing happens all the goddamn time especially in the more densely populated cities.
As for sexual assault and molestation, if you actually travel to japan they actually warn you about the potential and how to avoid it on public transportation because of how common it is.
Rape definition in japan is also extremely strict and a lot of things aren't considered rape, if someone shoves their fingers into you it isn't considered rape or even sexual assault, its just considered molestation. Accompany that with societal opposition to coming forward about it.
You are literally retarded
>>331454989
Oh no you are a fucking idiot. No one cared about it. When Mortal Kombat came around and kick started the ESRB and there were actually now ratings for games everyone in elementary school still went out and played Mortal Kombat and its sequels.
The kids with parents that actually paid attention to the ratings was a minority.
>>331457546
>The context of the data
This isn't "50% of gamers are women" where simple research can make things arguable.
The burden of proof is on you to find this magical hidden majority of rapefests.
>>331457197
>they're fully committed to the narrative that a racial homogeneous country like Japan is a crime ridden rape fest
i think you may have just let slip some of your true motives. Was anyone talking about race or diversity until you brought it up while describing the other sides argument? Maybe you ought to evaluate your own motives before attacking others
>>331457242
Prove it then.
I would love to see you try to prove that Japan, which has one of the lowest crime rates in the world, is somehow a rapefest.
Just face it cuck, you've been brain washed by the liberal media into buying the narrative simply because japan is more sexually progressive than us they are somehow more dangerous to women
It's basic sexual repression 101. They like weird porn, so they MUST be a bunch of raping perverts right?
![[HorribleSubs] Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! - 06 [720p].mkv_snapshot_00.46_[2016.02.24_16.53.58].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3EKIn9x.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! - 06 [720p].mkv snapshot 00.46 [2016.02.24 16.53.58]")
>>331457516
I'm sure you think you're clever and have a point there, but I'm not going to bother to decipher it. I am going to round up and just call you a dipshit as I have no idea what you are trying to convey here. So whatever dipshit. I have a feeling anime triggers you, so have an image from an anime.
>>331456420
>less crime overall
The Japanese are liars and regularly refuse to investigate crimes. There's a reason their murder rate is so low while their suicide rate is so high.
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/nov/09/world/fg-autopsy9
>less sexual crime
Sexual crime is rampant in Japan but either the victim wont report anything for fear of retaliation or being looked down on or the police will flat out refuse to investigate the crime.
Yes, the only first world country in the world that has female-only metro cars to stop the out of control train molesters has less sexual crime. Yes, the country that passed a law requiring photo devices to make a loud noise when a picture is taken to hamper the enormous creep shot culture has less sexual crime.
>>331457471
>2016
>Still being a bigot
Who cares what faggots do on their own time
>>331451725
>>331451967
>>331452224
Child porn is legal in US? I didn't think you were THAT degenerate.
>>331457475
Not at all. It's far from just his case anon, i'm from the south as well and it was quite like that for me too.
This is the South-East White American experience.
>>331457117
Yes, the Yakuza exists, but I'm talking about things like robbery, murder, rape, etc. All of those are without a doubt less prevalent. As for the separate cars, without a doubt there was groping going on. However, if we are looking at things like rape, etc., I would say it's definitely lower.
>>331457393
I admittedly didn't mention per capita, but I meant it.
>>331457197
Looks like it. I can acknowledge that yes, there is a certain aspect that makes reporting some crimes less common in places like Japan, but people are acting like the rate will triple, quadruple even. And even if that were true, the rate is still less compared to the countries I was comparing them too.
>>331457771
MK seems to be the only example anyone ever posts
"oh snes censored MK so it's always been like this where every single thing gets censored!"
no, it's a reversal where they have stopped focusing on violence to rage about sexual content instead.
>>331444431
SJWs won their fight against Vidya.
>>331457816
I don't know where all this cuck stuff is coming from, but it sounds like you have some issues you need to work out.
I know people who've been to Japan, and I know enough people who talk about Japan happenings, including Japanese people, who say molestation is a daily occurrence. I really don't care, but I'll keep replying to you if you're going to get this riled up about it.
>>331457765
>muh SECRET RAPES
>muh secret CRIMES
Like poetry
Japan doesn't believe in racial diversity or modern feminist dogma? Of course they must be EVIL and filled with rapists and crimes right?
Oh whats that? They actually have one of the lowest crime and sexual assult rates in the WORLD?
There must be a government wide conspiracy to hide it!
If it is a bright colored cartoony looking anything then it is assumed that it is being marketed towards children, period.
Doesn't matter if there's a big M rating on the box, if it looks cartoony then it is being aimed at kids because that's what kids like right?
Not how it SHOULD be but that's just how our culture works.
>>331446857
no, no, really anon coloring books are trendy right now
>>331458114
>still no proof
You're just proving my point.
>>331451725
let's get this shit started
>he attributes age to drawings
I'll fap to shota now and then but I would never even come close to hurting a child, in fact if somebody admitted to me that they would or did I'd do everything in my power to ruin them
it's not banned in my country because people here may be fucking insane but at least we have the ability to tell reality from fucking 2D drawings on paper
>>331452681
Bro I work at a retail store as a cashier.
There's about 5-6 different 'adult' coloring books in my store.
>>331457062
The problem isn't when specific fiction has those problems, its when all of it does. Just like women get inaccurate representations of men in romance novels.
This isn't complicated stuff m8, Im not going full SJW or nothing I am just pointing out its a real thing that happens, and over long periods of time it can cause problems.
For example, just look at what 50 shades of gray did? It was marketed as an alternative hardcore romance novel to women that spend most of their time reading romance novels, and it even killed someone because of it because these people don't know any better.
Sure people like you or even a decent amount of people well know the separation and distinction between reality and fantasy, but the more that your reality IS fantasy (hardcore fans) the more that disassociation can and will happen.
>>331457831
It's not a crime if it's not reported Anon. Nothing is wrong if there's no one investigating it.
You aren't breaking the law, if you aren't being caught.
what appeal do people see in lolis
>>331447968
Nice sources there kid.
>>331456993
>>331457816
Shouldn't you cuckservatives be arguing how America is the BEST MOTHERFUCKING COUNTRY IN THE HISTORY OF ALL OF FUCKING EVER instead of sticking up for filthy socialist gook foreigners?
>>331458230
What point? I won't bother googling shit so that means glorious Japan is a crime free paradise? Good. I certainly hope so.
>>331457765
>one of the lowest crime rates in the world
>one of the lowest rape rates in the world
>no no thats impossible! its all a giant government/patriarchy conspiracy!
>>331457765
>>331457831
Maybe. You guys seem convinced, but I don't know if I agree with it. Again, I acknowledge that there is a degree of under reporting. But I don't think actual rates are anywhere near multiple times as high.
>>331457781
the point is that no proper data exists. If you want me to point to numbers well then i obviously cant. That however doesn't make your data immediately correct, the idea is that there isnt any decent data at all due to cultural tendencies making it near impossible to collect.
Certainly im not claiming rape is utterly rampant and Japan is just one big rape pile, but i do think there is a very reasonable concern that the numbers we do have regarding the issue arent really indicative of the reality
>>331457962
There is a large amount of unreported crime in Japan. Given the fact it's large and unreported, it may equal or exceed western cultures, especially sexual crimes.
Murder rates are obviously lower, but sexual crimes are probably higher. A woman or little girl that gets raped there fears for her safety too much to even go to the police most of the time.
>>331458545
>data is wrong because patriarchy
literally your argument
>>331444431
>retailers require
These are decisions being made entirely by the publisher. It's not to adhere to any laws, not to appeal to any specific retailers, but to increase sales.
Also, fyi, some grocery stores such as Publix do have a small censorship screen that they place over the magazine stack if they consider the material to not be family friendly.
>>331458119
>Oh whats that? They actually have one of the lowest crime and sexual assult rates in the WORLD?
Well when they take steps to avoid or curb it, without just merely complaining about it, that tends to happen.
>Women aren't represented in manga!
>We'll make our own then, from start to finish including publications
>Oh look, a woman is the most finacially successful manga artist.
>Women are being touched on trains
>We'll make another line for women only
>Oh look, crime rates dropped and the trains aren't as crowded anymore
>However, fares did increase a little bit
>>331458534
>all stats are infallible and cultural context doesnt matter in the slightest
Japan isnt a shithole, but its also a real place filled with real people who do shitty things all the time like anywhere else. Its not the Utopia you want it to be
>>331458304
>Just like women get inaccurate representations of men in romance novels.
And they are retards if they believe that nonsense. Anyone with a healthy brain knows that fiction != reality. So they understand that people in fiction DON'T represent actual people. If they can't "handle" fiction, then they shouldn't consume it. This same thing applies to alcohol and other drug, hell even other activities. People are responsible for their actions, you can't just say "fiction made me do it". That's absurd.
This might not even be a boy.
>>331458545
>the point is that no proper data exists
Then stop making things up and shut up, retard.
>>331458570
>that gets raped there fears for her safety too much to even go to the police most of the time
Okay, come one, this is just hyperbole at this point. I've acknowledged in other posts that there is some degree of under reporting, but I don't think it's the many magnitudes that people seem to think it's under reported. But to act like a sexual assault victim in Japan will not go to the police out of fear of their own safety is absurd.
>>331458686
Actually hilarious shit.
I work at Publix. We're only supposed to vocer I think it was Cosmopolitan and Vogue.
90% of the time in my line some 40+ something woman gasps in terror, finds one of those little censor things, and covers up the things she doesn't like/goes against her religion or whatever and then bitch at me for 30 minutes over how evil my store is for having that magazine.
We're told to just nod our head and wait until they leave then fix it back to the way it was, but most people don't care and just don't bother with fixing it.
>>331458382
here's your (you)
>>331458119
It's really hard for western feminists to understand that the reason women complain less in Japan is because they actually have interests and hobbies outside of being a cunt.
>>331457962
I will point out that Japan's definition of rape is extremely strict, you can force objects into a woman without it being labeled rape (Like fingers, toys, etc.)
Japan has a notoriously low reporting rate of sexual related crimes, both because of societal influences, also partially because most male on male assault isn't even legally actionable.
Its on the upcurve though and they are doing better than they were, which is thanks to them actually talking about it and doing things about it (Like providing women alternative cars to avoid sexual assaulters). And have been tackling issues in their society surrounding sexuality especially with the idol shit that has been going on and how its affecting birthrates and how sexual crime has been driving up female suicide rates.
>>331458657
id more phrase it as
>"the data is highly imperfect due to cultural tendencies.
this shit happens all the time in social sciences. and isnt at all unique to this situation. Theres a reason studies are published with often hundred of pages explaining their findings, because shit is never as simple as just presenting some numbers and having them tell the whole story.
>>331459071
He's right you know.
>>331458963
I hope it's a boy
>>331458849
our point is literally based in reality. all the factual evidence and data available on the subject support it.
your point is based in fiction and ideology. zero factual evidence and data support it.
all you do is spout talking points (but muh underreporting!) that have zero value on their own because you don't even TRY quantifying them, and you provide nothing to back them up with ANY evidence. literally nothing but your ideology supports your argument.
>>331458570
>Okay, come one, this is just hyperbole at this point. I've acknowledged in other posts that there is some degree of under reporting, but I don't think it's the many magnitudes that people seem to think it's under reported. But to act like a sexual assault victim in Afghanistan will not go to the police out of fear of their own safety is absurd.
See what I can do with your "I can't believe a country would do bad things!" logic?
>>331458894
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzeZhCt5PVA
>>331459149
Me too.
>>331458976
i dont belive i made anything up. All ive said is that the numbers being reported are likely pretty inaccurate due to cultural tendencies and at least to me that sound pretty reasonable.
that is unless you think all data is inherently correct and should never be questioned
>>331449450
>videogames
>>331458003
My post has to do more with parents getting games that are M rated. Most parents didn't care. Hell they probably didn't care when getting their kids R rated horror films as well.
Only a minority cared, even then I personally haven't encountered them.
>>331459331
You have no evidence so therefore you have no argument, stop trying.
>>331459457
my parents cared
>>331459532
As I said, a minority.
>>331459039
I think the problem here is that you're choosing to underestimate how large unreported crime can be. You have this notion that Japan is this incredibly safe sanctuary.
There is a running joke you see all the time in Japanese manga about rape. You know how the girl says "now I can no longer be a wife"? When women get raped or molested the last thing they want is for anyone to know about it, because it makes them seem like used goods. Unlike in the west where women routinely blame men for rape that never occurred.
>>331459293
I'm assuming you meant to quote me instead of the post you replied to. And nowhere did I say that Japanese people don't do bad things. They're people, of course there will be crime, etc. But if you are trying to say with a straight face that in modern Japan, people on a wide-scale are scared to go to the police to report crimes because they fear for their own safety as a result of doing so, you are full of shit.
>>331459620
>>331459457
So then, who are these changes and censorships for if parents don't even pay attention to what their kids play?
Why is this almost exclusively applied to Japanese localizations?
>>331459285
> all the factual evidence and data available on the subject support it.
evidence that is highly suspect and doesn't seem to gel with the on-the-ground situation with things like women only train cars being almost commonplace.
>because you don't even TRY quantifying them, and you provide nothing to back them up with ANY evidence
because the argument isnt that japan is a rape factory, just that the data you tout as fact has some issues and likely isnt entirely accurate.
You make it sound like i have some entrenched position im trying to back up, but i dont think ive made any such claim. The only thing ive really said in this thread is that the stats you present have some problems.
>>331459592
This is an otome game. It was made for women.
>>331459807
>japan has tons of SECRET RAPES
Uhh ok prove it
>RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE
This is literally your entire argument?
>>331459592
Fucking male power fantasies.
Pic related is what a REAL man looks like.
>>331459458
>look at this data, Japan is a utopia
>I think that data might have some problems
>FUCK YOU NUMBERS ARE NEVER WRONG AND SHOULD NEVER BE QUESTIONED FOR ANY REASON
You are right i dont have any evidence, because im not making an argument. All im doing is critiquing yours and questioning your evidence. Im deeply sorry if that triggers you, but in the real world social data is often imperfect and must be evaluated in context
>>331446036
makes sense. Women are just children that you can legally have sex with.
>>331459592
CENSOR THIS
AS A MALE I'M GETTING TRIGGERED
>>331459972
>>331459826
>>331460119
It's fun taking pictures of the book/magazine rack at my store.
>>331444431
Well, bad localization and over sensitive American localization. But clearly you're referring to the big picture here.
I'm going to put words in your mouth here and assume you're not just talking about the scantily clad women, but the concept of censoring scantily clad women because they make women feel uncomfortable.
The truth is, it is a small but vocal minority that the videogame community is listening to, to its detriment. Women consume Cosmo and similar magazines by the fucking ton, and it is the most degrading shit I've ever read. The entire magazine is "How to be a vapid whore: the magazine." Why does it sell so well? Because women are voting with their dollar. They like that kind of thing. They love attention, they love feeling sexy. Women all around the world wake up every day and put on provocative clothing without ever getting input from a man, because they want men to look at them and women to be jealous of them. Well, most women.
Then we have the women who complain about sexy women in the media. Women complain about objectification in videogames because they feel alienated. They feel alienated because they can't fit in with "normal" women, so they move to videogames. They feel alienated there because the perfect depictions of women make them feel insecure, so they complain. This is a fundamental difference in the way men and women view the world. Again, most women don't care because they're successful, have no trouble getting dudes, and are not intimidated by other sexy women. The issue is the female equivalents of neckbeards who filter through the cracks into primarily male-dominated hobbies. These women retain their need for attention, and begin to loudly complain that a male dominated hobby isn't catering to them. The sad part is, it works because white knights.
>>331456029
I think you need to consider that the people of Japan are simply less willing to have sex in general, something that is also killing them.
That pic is like declaring countries without cars are better because less people die from car crashes.
If more people are willing to have sex (something Japan NEEDS) more people will rape but that can't really be helped if when increasing the amount of people willing to have sex.
>>331460198
>How many does should you shoot?
God damnit Florida
>>331459705
I do think Japan is quite safe, yes, and I would go out on a limb and say most people in the world, and hell most Japanese, would consider their society quite safe.
And I have said that I do understand the issues that can come with having to report something like a rape, etc. I just don't think that the numbers would be as high, even with more instances being reported, as people like to make it out to be. But the post said fear for their safety, like the police would call them whores and stone them in the town square or something. Which I think we can all acknowledge is not going to happen.
>>331459807
Not him, but I can see where you're coming from. I just think he's trying to say that people out of hand dismiss the numbers as wildly inaccurate, instead of saying that they may be off a bit, but they would still be quite low.
>>331458689
I think its funny that people treat japan as some anti-feminist utopia when in actuality there has been leaps and bounds in the past decade to bring women into the workforce, paying them equally, etc.
>>331458894
That's not what I am saying you fucking retard, I am stating that when you have a hobby that innately not only has the intent of removing you from reality to experience fantasy, but said hobby also takes time away and removes you from reality (staying home reading/playing games) more and more of your understanding or opinion on real life is influenced by the medium.
It's not strictly BECAUSE of the fiction, it is a product of isolation combined with what information you take in in your isolation. Its not a "I saw them doing it so I thought it was okay!" thing, its a "our mind will fill the gaps of social interaction with expectations with what it has to fill it" kind of thing. Which is why children that spend a lot of time watching television or playing games have issues interacting with real people or other children.
ESPECIALLY as games become more realistic, the problem being that the lack of realistic or accurate representation of women in games over time can create issues with men being unable or unsure about how to interact or view women. Again this isn't "Women should be more powerful/ more important!" its more that the representation is inaccurate and causes a disconnect.
It's the same thing I said earlier about the constant overuse of unobtainable body types for men create extensive rates of body image issues in the male gaming populace, as well as causing them to become depressed or antagonistic(Calling others manlets or cucks) because their representation of what a male is is subconsciously drilled into their head.
What the fuck do you think Waifu's or the 3dpd is? It is the manifestation of the disconnect between reality and fantasy making some completely unable to rationalize how women act in real life versus fantasy media.
>>331460330
does refers to the plural of doe, a female deerray a drop of golden sun..
>>331459117
>>331459130
>>331459331
>>331459705
>>331459807
Whats more likely:
Japan actually has a worldwide low crime and sexual assault rate based on DECADES of studies and crime statistics
or
A nationwide conspiracy to hide criminals and rapists with every citizen and local government conspiring to hide all these rapes you're convinced are happening all the time.
Just accept that what you've gleaned from second hand information from biased western sources and brief vacations to the tourist areas is a pretty poor way to become on expert on an entire country.
b-but japan has SEXY LITTLE GIRL COMICS? THEY HAVE TO BE ALL RAPISTS! Right??
>>331460524
I've only ever heard the plural of doe be doe before, but a quick google does in fact show it can be both.
Still, damnit Florida just in general.
>>331460440
Not him, but I don't think anybody really has a problem with woman working or getting paid the same. Nothing really feminist about that in this day and age. It's more, at least in this context, people bitching about not having woman in stories, the representation of woman in stories, shit that doesn't really matter. But since they don't like it so much, instead of going and making their own, they just complain, things like that.
>>331460417
Its more so that the requirements of proof and definition of rape causes issues with women having to come forward about it.
Which is even a problem in the US especially more so with reports of same sex rape. No they won't be lambasted as whores, but if it doesn't hit the criteria it's "not rape" and there is nothing they (the police) can do about it.
The report rates are low because of those reasons, I am not saying that its WORSE than the US, but knowing people in japan there are reasons behind the low reporting rate and the actual rate actually IS higher than it is.
>>331447968
There are actually a whole bunch of hentai artists that are women you fucking moron
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>>331457918
Lol. No its fucking not.
>>331460790
It is more that japan makes all the efforts they complain about the US making while pretending it doesn't happen I guess?
Animation studios intentionally hiring more women for the purpose of having more women working in animation. Game companies taking on more female writers because of the growing female gaming population in japan. Consulting women actively in the development of female characters. Etc.
The amount of people that have a complete misunderstanding of japanese culture here is pretty amazing, SJW's aren't the only ones that think they know shit about japan is all I am saying.
Its 2016 and faggots can twerk in the streets naked, children can get sex reassignment surgeries, cuckolding and polyamory relationships are mainstream and yet anime girls get censored and you can't legally marry a 2D girl.
>>331460818
I'm not disputing anything you said, and I haven't disputed that fact through this entire thread replying to others. Of course the actual rate will be higher than it is. However, I don't think it will be 3x, 4x, 5x higher like people seem to imply, and the fact remains, that even if it was that much higher, the rates will STILL be lower than the U.S., other countries. That was the original point that was raised, I think.
>>331460790
>I don't think anybody really has a problem with woman working
Our existence as a people has. Bitches don't get enough babies.
>>331461250
Truly a nation that needs its priorities straightened out.
>>331454468
I got accused of molestation by my own sister who I never visit. It took a while to get everything resolved, good luck anon.
>>331461223
That's true, not really a secret, but the fact remains then that they still make the shit they want, and that their customers want. They don't sit there saying well, I don't like how this game is, this anime is, etc., and change it to suit others needs. Nobody has a problem with woman working anywhere, but the things is, most people working in these industries in Japan get that people like different shit, and that they can make x for this consumer base, and y for this consumer base, no need to castigate x or describe the people who like it as problematic shitlords.
>>331461485
That has pretty deep running roots, stemming from things like the economy, long work hours, etc. Don't know how much having more woman working help/hurts Japan's birthrate.
I don't see what's so confusing
>>331461553
I see no reason for a sister to claim this if it wasnt true. What would she hope to gain?
>>331462171
She wanted to ruin me, what isn't there to understand?
>>331462032
>That has pretty deep running roots, stemming from things like the economy, long work hours, etc. Don't know how much having more woman working help/hurts Japan's birthrate.
bullshit
that's a direct result of women being forced into the workforce
all western europe and northern america have the exact same problem
>>331460524Me, a name I call myself.
>>331461553
I'm under very similar circumstances. Hopefully it'll be resolved by the end of this week.
>>331461740
This nigga gets it.
>>331445578
Rated T games are not sold to kids, much like PG-13 films are not.
You're entire post is void.
>>331462032
>That has pretty deep running roots, stemming from things like the economy, long work hours, etc. Don't know how much having more woman working help/hurts Japan's birthrate.
Fairly easy to see how in Western nations it hurt the birthrates of whites something fierce, along with WW1/2 taking a lot of the more alpha males out in gunfire. Women couldn't, and wouldn't be able to, take care of children due to having to work all the time. This isn't counting not wanting to have sex due to fatigue either.
>>331462348Far, a long long way to run
>>331457903
Child porn is illegal, loli isn't.
You seem to be confused here, anon.
>>331461091
Butthurt god-fearing southern Republican detected.
>>331457078
A MAJORITY of porn artists and loli artists in Japan of women. see >>331459110
>>331462935
I thought drawn depictions were prosecutable
>>331462636
who are these semen demons?
>>331463526
Pic related.
>>331463386
It varies by state.
>>331463386
I think it has to be photorealistic and of a real person, otherwise the only way you're getting charged is if you already were getting charged for real CP but they wanted to tag more bullshit charges on top of it.
>>331463386
Anything is prosecutable. You can prosecute somebody for being a fag but that doesn't make it illegal and the case will just get thrown out.
>>331463607
No it doesn't. The supreme court ruled crimes must have victims.
>>331444431
Hypocrisy
>>331445524
Some models for swimwear, in america, are under 18.
>>331463607
>victim girls
>there are no girls AND no victims
Why is this allowed?
>>331463526
They're male.
If you're still interested, search "Danke Danke Revolution" on sadpanda.
>>331463386
It varies by state, but as >>331463692 already stated most of the time it's only to add more if you get caught with real CP. Kind of like when you get stopped by a cop for speeding, they start looking for every bit they can get to make the fine higher.
>>331463726
being molested by MILFS/older women
>>331456150
This nigga knows what's up.
>>331463867
just a prank bro
>>331463726
Pure juvenile love with an oneesan.
>>331464173
Fuck off succubus (male).
>>331464064
This gentleman of great taste knows what's up
>>331460198
so ripe for edits holyshit
it's a shame i'm a lazy fuck.
>post yfw you live in a state where they don't give shit about you fapping to shotas/lolis because they can realize that fapping to 2d does not automatically translate to 3d
>>331462272
Why tho? Its your sister. Not a crazy ex or something.
>>331464357
So every State?
I kind of feel bad for Canada fags.
>>331464214
you're rude
>>331464475
Yeah but our government doesn't watch us at every moment of our lives so we can get away with it whether it is legal or not (which it is in BC)
>>331464357
That's every state bro.
>>331463726
Tender loving.
>>331463867
>(?)
Victim Girls (male)
>>331464679
>>331463715
"The supreme court ruled crimes must have victims." There you go.
>>331464679
Oh wait, British Columbia, so you are a Canada Fag.
>>331464459
Well if you really want to know, I was never truly there for her. We don't live together and we're only related by having the same dad. We used to get along when she was younger but as she grew older we hardly ever talked and I ignored her for the longest because I never really wanted to do anything with her. I have my own things to take care of with my mom's side of the family and I assume that she never liked that.
She's fucking crazy and now I feel that all women including children are hell spawn. I will never trust women again for as long as I live.
>>331463726
It was a pleasure knowing you before mod comes and bans you.
>>331464812
The victim is society, they are encouraging pedophiles.
>>331461740
sauce?
>>331465214
You should've been there at the Supreme Court before they legalized it because it's legal now. You can thank George W for that.
>>331444431
jealousy of a superior artform
jap art is always destroyed for this very reason.
>>331465259
Here you go.
>>331452681
Walmart employee here, that image is legit, I see magazines with racy models on them all the time at our front check stands.
>>331444431
Games with "cartoon" artstyles are for "kids". You have to protect the children, anon, even if more kids are playing M-rated shooting games than T-Rated RPGs.
>>331465425
>Not making your own Alfredo Carbonara
>>331444431
Bullshit, mostly.
also, as far as I've seen, people are more fine with 3DPD shit being sexualized than 2D in the US and maybe the rest of the west
>>331458468
>>331458114
>>331457242
as much as I love and adore Len, is there a reason you're posting him, or are you just being an avatarfag
>>331464357
US obscenity laws are retarded, take note that possession is legal (possessing obscene material isn't a crime), obtaining/distributing it mightn't be depending on the state.
>>331465605
We have age ratings to "protect kids" from unsuitable content. There's no need to ruin other people's fun for the sake of people whom the content was not intended for.
>>331466072
>>331466072
Wait for 3 mins and then delete the image
>>331466076
You're right, but the people calling the shots don't see it that way.
I mean, Call of Duty is advertised on Toys R Us commercials for crying out loud.
What vidya series or games have good lolis or shotas
>>331466212
Does the native extension allow that?
>>331466414
It really is a cultural thing, which makes changing the status-quo more slow and difficult. It's still funny to me how violence is so normalized in America while sexuality is so normalized in Japan, even though people over there barely fuck anymore. Maybe it's because they've stopped fucking that their products are so full of sex.
>>331466614
Not sure but here's how it looks like for appchan
>>331466503
Tales has both
Some of the lolis are even best girls in their games
>>331454040
you should see a doctor about that buttock inflammation
>>331461091
Mississippifag here. Come to pascagoula and try to survive a fucking week. I guarantee you'll fucking shoot yourself having to deal with the goddamn toxic ass environment here. Makes /v/ looks like a goddamn paradise.
>>331466904
>Mississippi's flagship city
lol
>>331449450
>writing a sentence in two bullet points
This is the worst thing about that image.
>>331466767
>Sexuality is normalized in Japan.
No it's not. It's just that their games and manga and shit are as a reaction to their stuffy culture.
>>331466904
I'm in Oxford
I fucking hate Oxford
>>331449450
This is /v/ levels of VIDEO GAMES.
>>331467067
The only job creating place there is the shipyard.
It has about 11,000 positions. Of those, only about 40% have a high school degree. Of those 40%, less than 30% have a higher education.
>>331467885
Sounds rough.
>>331459130
>id more phrase it as
it doesn't support my argument, in fact is damaging to it's premise, therefore it is incorrect.
>>331468334The rough part is they're allowed to vote and have opinions. They can't fucking spell, work any math problem, or think critically to solve mechanical/scientific issues but oh man, can they quote Leviticus or how that *use your imagine for southern slang for a black person because the mods are funny about that sort of thing apparently* in the white house are running this country to the GROUND, by gawd.
You people disgust me.
>>331468597
lol, I wish you luck in the future. Hopefully you can find some place better.
>>331460248
Okay, I need to know what step 2 is.
>>331468848
Have a shota.
>>331463386
Every time someone in the USA has been sent to prison for possessing lolicon art/manga/anime/whatever, they either also had real CP or were too stupid to fight it and cut a deal.
>>331469020
Sorry, I'm not a pedophile like you. You people should be put in a hole hand have cement poured over you.
>>331468997
children
>>331469412
That's pretty tame.
>>331444528
I'd have Wild Sex with Penny from the Big Bazinga Theory.
>>331468597
Good luck anon.
Seriously mate, from across the ocean, I hope ya get enough cash to leave that shithole one day.
>>331468997
Be real
>>331446612
>>331446178
Whoa. That gave me an idea.
What about a game or movie or show or book
Where the people know they are in one and have to deal with that?
Like, "fuck, man what's the point? I can't walk over there unless you tell me to motherfucker. I hate you so much."
>>331470626
And he could like, beg and plead with you to go other places or do what he wants/ Yet you decided.
Even though he was programed to say such things. And he is still infact not free
>>331470626
Already been done in each medium. Several times, I'm sure.
>>331470626
It's been done.
>>331470626
Are you 14
>>331470731
>>331470761
TELL ME WHEN AND WHAT?
>>331444431
Fucking USA.
>>331471219
Deadpool comics, video game, and movie.
>>331471219
They've all been shit so I don't remember. I think Stanley Parable was about it. Stranger than Fiction(?) may have been something like that. Wes Cravens New Nightmare was like that.
>>331471581
>Stanley Parable
>shit
wew lad
>>331471219
Wasn't The Truman Show like that?
>>331471714
It was. It had one joke that wasn't particularly funny.
>>331447480
I'm pretty sure Glee depicted underage sex. You only can't have real cp
>>331457546
>Over 10 rapes per 100000 are covered up in japan
Gonna need a source on that one
>>331472413
Or to put it into perspective, you're claiming that about 92% of rapes in japan are hidden somehow
>>331460440
>realistic representation is important
>in an entertainment medium
I suggest a healthy dose of never post again.
>>331472664
Wait, I eyeballed it but it's more like 87% if you assume japan has the same rape as Britain somehow, but that's a tall fucking order
>>331471529
Wow, one example.
>>331471581
>They've all been shit so I don't remember
See? That's why there needs to be a good one.
Thanks though, I'll check out Wes Cravens New Nightmare.
>>331471789
Kind of. Yeah.
>>331473257
Honestly I think that because of the premise. It's just schlocky, and there isn't any way to "class" it up.
>>331473418
I know. And now that I'm thinking of it I think Conker's Bad Fur Day dealt with it at the end.
I just feel like if people found a way to do it incredibly good though it would be amazing. Somehow.
>>331473657
this is a shota thread, please take your autistic idea guy daydreaming elsewhere
What is appealing about lolis and shotas?
>>331475181
Can't believe I haven't been hit yet. My luckiest run yet.
>>331475404
Innocence, youth, taboo. General cuteness.
