The great debate.
>>331325506
This isn't even a competition. Meh game vs one of the best Mario games ever
>>331325506
How is this a debate? S3&K is the clear winner.
>>331325506
>itt pretend it's 199
>>331326435
shit, *1994
>>331326435
OOGA BOOGALOO WHERE THE ROCK WOMEN AT
>>331325506
S3&K
>>331325506
>Sonic 3 & Knuckles
>not Sonic 3 Complete
But yeah, between those two, S3&K is the clear winner.
>>331326330
/thread
>>331325506
I like the Mario engine better but prefer the levels in Sonic 3.
The levels in SMW are really bland but the ROMhacks are amazing.
>>331326435
>199 was 1817 years ago
>you will neverEVERbe back in this time
>>331326435
Okay
>Fucking Commodus ruining the Roman Empire, we have provinces bitching about taxes and Germans going for our asses and all our Emperor does is play Gladiator in the fucking arena and tell people to party at the forum.
>this ain't the Pax Romana Marcus Aurelius promised
>>331326435
(sounds of angry amoeba)
>>331326435
>Emperor won't let you build more insulaes
>But more arenas are completely fine
It's like he wants me to be a shitty magistrate. These plebians want my head on a plate.
>>331325506
>Mario world
>launch title, 1990
>S&K 3
>1994, 4th iteration
is not even a fair comparison
mate its not even close. smw is far more loved, and its the better game.
>>331327886
And even then SMW manages to be the superior game.
>>331327493
>>331326718
What version of history is this?
>>331327886
They had 4 more years and still couldn't make a good game?
sonic games were never good
>>331326435
If you listen carefully you can hear the gods laughinglisten...
>>331328362
That's what I don't get. How do people still buy the games? Is it furfags, people with bad taste, nostalgia fags?
>>331328362
I love t his meme when some eceleb idiot can make up the minds of everyone because all these people never played it. SMW is a great game but I'd say it and Sonic 3 are just as good. SMW gets a bit easy once you learn to fly.
![1344214968452[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vsuTDh8.jpg "1344214968452[1].jpg")
>>331326435
>tfw live in Memesachusetts and St. Patrick's day was this week
Super Mario World. Sonic 3's good but it's the second weakest of the original quadrilogy IMO. I'd consider taking Sonic 2 over World, though. Not a shoo-in, but I'd consider it.
>>331325506
Super Mario World > Sonic 3Sonic 2 vs. Super Mario World is where the real debate is
>>331326435
>tfw you don't have to deal with the Romans and their bullshit because Quetzatcoatl will always protect you
>>331325506
Sonic wins this one, but SMW is on par with Sonic 2 and better than all the others. And SMB3 is better than World anyway (though it's still not quite as good as S3&K, but only barely).
>>331326330
>>331327127
samefag
>>331325506
Super Mario World is one game. S3&K is two games. Therefore SMW wins on that alone. Anyone who disagrees never actually played either growing up and are therefore underage.
>>331329024
>SMW
> not Mario 3
SMW is when mario got a little too easy this seems like the slippery slope into what they are now started.
>>331329160
pretty much this
I've never liked mario games.
Everything feels like ice.
>>331329309
Either half is still better than SMW.
>>331325506
>Compare a game made in 1991 to a game made in 1994
Mario had the better exploration in terms of multiple levels, Sonic had better exploration in terms of alternate paths within levels
Sonic had the objectively better soundtrack. I love Mario games but SMW was one of the most lacking in terms of soundtrack.
Replayability, SMW wins too with the exits and special worlds. Knuckles paths are interesting but it's just replaying the game again with some slight differences.
Gameplay, Sonics is more fun. Shield power ups are instantly available, every character has their own abilities to explore levels in different ways, and so on. Marios arsenal is just the star, fire flower, Yoshi (and his different conditions of flight, fireball and stomp). Marios power ups do allow level exploration to alternate routes, but it's less in-your-face than Sonic is about it.
I don't fucking know.
I like 2 more than 3. But I like SMW more than 2.
>>331329273
Nah bro. I'm the one asking how people like sonic games still though
>>331329732
Because modern games have a habit of stringing players along by having just enough in them that the fans go "well, if they expand on the good stuff and get rid of the bad stuff the next game should be good." Aside from 06 and Boom they're never complete disasters.
>>331329340
You know, I suppose you're actually right about that. Mario 3 vs Sonic 2 is a better debate. SMW is just a bit more nostalgic for me.
>>331328362
>IMM UNDERAGE!!!1!!
the post
>>331330394
>IMM AUTISTIC!!!1!
the post
>>331325506
S3&K no fucking contest.
>>331329441
>Sonic had the objectively better soundtrack
>Gameplay, Sonics is more fun
Fucking christ I hope no one takes you seriously.
>>331325506
>Sonic 3K
>better art
>better music
>better presentation
>richer atmosphere
>richer platforming mechanics
>multiple characters with alternate playstyles
>vastly more expansive and interesting levels
How people can say a game with shitty tinkly midi loops, ms paint art and boring basic platforming is better than Sonic 3K is mind numbing. How fucking brain damaged are you lot?
>>331331717
Yeah. I hope no one takes you seriously.
>>331331549
>>331331717
You think SMW had better music than S3K? Are you joking?
S3&K
>>331331887
Yes?
>>331331559
>Mario World
>basic platforming
>when compared to Sonic 3
That's the craziest fucking thing I've read in weeks though.
>>331325506
>SMW instead of SMB3
Grand Dad
>Legitimate defense of Mario World over Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
Jesus christ. I love Super Mario World, but I didn't realize people were delusional. S3&K had everything.
>>331332269
it also has autistic furries in it
>>331330582
wow did it really make you that mad?
>>331332371
wow did it really make you that mad?
SMW
It's no fun to press down+button to gain speed every 5 seconds.
>>331325506
Sonic 3&K.
>>331325506
Sonic 2 is better
Mario 3 is better
>>331325506
Honestly I'm just suprised there's this many people in this thread that played these. I was under the impression the majority of /v/ hadn't played anything earlier than ps2, gamecube , and xbox.
>>331327180
this. Mario Gives up, VIP3, Hyper V, Super Mario Something, there's a lot of great ones out there.
>>331332515
Huh? That's what I'm asking you dude!
>>331332660
the majority of /v/ is in college, yo. All the true underaged newfags are going to reddit instead these days.
>>331331830
He was probably just giving them their (You)
>>331332141
Yes. You obviously haven't played much Sonic.
>>331325506
I think Super Mario World is the better game but I'd rather play S3&K on a given day. Also it has a better soundtrack.
Why do people never dislike Mario games?
Is it because the majority grew up playing them?
Both games are good, but I liked S3&K more.
>>331332120
but sonic 3 and knuckles has a better soundtrack
>>331332594
>SMW
>tons of enemies, dangers and ways the level surprises you like the purple dragons that don't die in one hit, the football players and the big-ass Bullet Bill that fills the screen, and because the level has a single path the danger is hard to avoid if you're not skilled
>S3&K
>just Spin dash your way through the levels, enemies can't hit you when you're a ball, you're literally invincible whenever you are jumping or rolling around
>pointless loop de loops that all take you to the same places, if you fail a stupid jump or get hit by some asshole you didn't see coming you fall down to the lower part of the level, filled with bland and boring platforming with very little chance of making your way up to a part of the level that allows you to go faster
wow wee
>>331332986
is a setpiece supposed to prove anything? That's what Sonic has always been - going fast from one epic cool badass setpiece to the next. The old games used to let you try and use alternate paths to get powerups and stuff, but the modern ones don't even bother.
They're platforming games for people who don't like platforming
>>331330582
How mad are you?
>>331333280
It doesnt, though
>>331332269
Except post-game content.
>>331332906
Huh? That's what I'm asking you dude!
>>331325506
I had both, so I didn't need to choose.
Free of bias, I can tell you that Sonic3&K is the better game.
>>331333138
Original Mario was my first game ever as a little kid and played the hell out of the nes games but I still came out a Sonikkufag.
They were honestly on another level.
>>331333406
But it does.
>>331333138
The worst you can say about them is that individual games can be too easy. On a technical level they're never badly made, unlike most modern Sonic games.
>>331333345
How mad are you?
>>331325506
File name related.
>>331333436
NO DELETE THIS
SONIC WAS NEVER EVER GOOD
>>331333330
>is a setpiece supposed to prove anything?
That "setpiece" can be utilized freely, since you weren't paying attention to the gif. It's not an automated prop like the shitty modern Sonic games. Sonic has the added dimension of rotation involved in the platforming, where his movement is affected by speed and angle on terrain. The game has basic physical rules and gives you big wild levels to let loose in. It has a much greater degree of technical depth than SMW. It's literally everything SMW is and much more.
>>331333328
>just Spin dash your way through the levels, enemies can't hit you when you're a ball, you're literally invincible whenever you are jumping or rolling around
Wanna know how I know you never played S3&K?
>>331333426
Man, I love it. Proving your underage(yes, your).
Now copy me again except change your mind because I told you to, except do it anyway because I said that, etc etc.
ur cool dude
>>331325506
I only grew up with Mario so it might be bias, but the classic Sonic trilogy I think beats the first four Mario games by a large margin.
Once it jumps to 3D Sonic declines pretty fast while Mario stays consistently good, but I'd call classic Sonic great and better than Mario.
SMB3 > SMW anyway.
>>331325506
Mario is undeniably the better series but...I found Sanic 3 & Knuckles more fun to play as a game than SMW.I also prefer SMB3 to SMW.
I had both, so I didn't need to choose.
Free of bias, I can tell you that Super mario world is the better game.
>any Mario game
>better than classic Sonic
I'll take "fucking stupid" for 1000, bill.
>>331333705
Your lame move has no effect on me
Man, I love it. Proving your underage(yes, your).
Now copy me again except change your mind because I told you to, except do it anyway because I said that, etc etc.
ur cool dude
2D Sonic Maker when?
>>331333669
I can also tell you, that these crying feel guys fanboys aren't funny.
>>331333692
>implying it's not true
Sonic was always a platformer for babies with bullshit difficulty
>>331325506
As in love as I am with S3&K, Super Mario World is much better
S3&K vs. Yoshi's Island would be a fairer comparison.
Regardless, a game with the scope of SMW could still potentially be made again today. Meanwhile, Sonic 3&K's scope would be impossible to reproduce. It's a real once in a lifetime thing, even if you don't care for the sonic gameplay.
- Every stage has a unique BGM with a rearrangement for Act 2.
- Every stage has unique graphics, several unique gimmicks and an entirely new set of enemies.
- Every stage has two unique boss encounters, one for each Act.
- Knuckles campaign has alternate routes(Some, like Launch Base Act 2, are practically new stages) and some new boss encounters.
>>331333971
It's not true you stupid fuck. Sonic may be easy but the way you described it is complete bullshit.
>>331326435
COME TO MECCA WHERE WOMEN DANCE NAKED AND ARE THROWN INTO FIRES.
>>331333890
rude
>>331333971
It's like the one unspeedrunnable game
Sonic 3 was better in nearly every aspect but I still prefer SMW anyways.
smw isn't even the better game in it's series, smb3 blows it out of the water.
So we all agree act 2 themes are always better than act 1 themes?
>>331334159
Nah. Sonic 3 had worse platforming.
>>331334227
>flying battery
nah
Sanic. I always found the 2d Mario games a little boring desu.
>>331334035
>Meanwhile, Sonic 3&K's scope would be impossible to reproduce.
To be this delusional...
>>331334293
SMB3 > SMW >S3&K
>>331328298
>>331328298
Maybe Berenstain version? Beats me.
>>331334360
Stellar argument.
I guess I win if all you have to back up your ideas are shite jpegs.
>>331334326
>Desu
You fucking WHAT
>>331334227
Not even close, outside of Hydrocity.
>>331334035
>Meanwhile, Sonic 3&K's scope would be impossible to reproduce.
Fucking easy to reproduce if you release half of it for full price twice.
>>331334465
same desu
>>331334035
I'm pretty sure every Sonic game after S3&K has more music, more bosses, more unique graphic designs, and more characters.
I haven't counted them up myself. But by estimation, that seems to clearly be the case.
>>331333328
>You're literally invincible whenever you are jumping or rolling around
You could've just said you've never played the game and saved us the trouble of reading your post.
Never been able to get into 2D mario games so S3K by default
>>331327886
>SMW is the fourth mainline Mario game
>S3&K is the fourth mainline Sonic game
It's a fair, logical comparison, retard.
>>331325506
There is no debate.. sonic is utter dogshit an always has been, its no better than fucking bubsy the bobcat, its never been fun to play the music is the games only saving grace but thats it! thats all it has lol! an the people that still enjoy it are the same disgusting faggots that still like dbz at 30 years old lmao! or the subhuman furries.
>"new" opinions keep getting posted
>unique IP's count barely changes
kek
At least we know that both Mario and Sonic autists are fucking samefags.
Sonic has never had a good game. Going fast is inherently bad for platformers.
>>331334516
Not trying to hide the samefag. I just wasn't aware that abbreviation autocorrected to desu.
>>331326435
>me go rockstop
>rockstop man ask what want
>say want rocknic 3 and rockles
>say have buy two game not one to get that
>only have five pebble
>can't afford two game
>hit rockstop man with club
>take two game
>go cave
>game no work because the no electric yet
UNGA BUNGA ROCKSTOP
>>331334805
it's been like that for a while senpai
>>331334772
>He never got gud at any platformer
>>331334561
SA1 and SA2 have (maybe?) more stages by virtue of reusing assets. SA2 might have like 20+ stages but there's only like four or five different environments (pyramid stages, jungle stages, military base stages, etc.)
There's definitely not a game with More Bosses though.
>>331333328
>SMW
>tons of enemies
That are completely non-threatening.
>dangers and ways the level surprises you like the purple dragons that don't die in one hit
Let me guess. It takes 2 hits. WOW.
>the football players and the big-ass Bullet Bill that fills the screen
Blocking a screen for ONE enemy is a good thing? OK.
>and because the level has a single path the danger
That's also a good thing? To constrain a player to ONE path? I don't think so
>is hard to avoid if you're not skilled
Jumping over that is not big deal. Since, that's the only thing you can do.
>S3&K
>enemies can't hit you when you're a ball,
Because you're attacking at a high speed.
>you're literally invincible whenever you are jumping or rolling around
>what are spikes, pits, invincible enemies, hazardous terrain (i.e lava) etc.
It's like you've never played a Sonic game before.
>pointless loop de loops
Which are there to build speed and momentum.
>that all take you to the same places
Big talk from a Mario fanatic.
>if you fail a stupid jump or get hit by some asshole you didn't see coming you fall down to the lower part of the level
The game is just punishing your meager reflexes anon. Nothing to be ashamed about.
>filled with bland and boring platforming
Kek. Says the defender of a single Path in SMW.
>>331334704
>Conspracy theorists on 4chan think anyone cares about the fucking post count.
>>331334805
To filter your fucking Twitter cancer.
>>331334987
wow look at all this shit taste and wrong opinions
>>331335005
I don't frequent twitter so I don't even know of this cancer. You do apparently.
>people actually prefer these games over mario 3
what's the average age on this board again?
More like The Great Bait>>331325506
>>331325506
Fun as Sonic 3 was, looking back, it was pretty boring. Most of the Sonic games are "HOLD RIGHT TO GO FAST THEN PRESS DOWN! FAST IS FUN!"
SMW is the clearly superior game in very way.
>>331334991
spot the samefag
>>331335176
Shit like "pham" and "2bh"? That's social media-tier cancer as far as I'm concerned.
>>331335193
>people actually prefer classic Mario over classic Sonic
What's the average IQ on this board again?
>>331334987
>>the football players and the big-ass Bullet Bill that fills the screen
>Blocking a screen for ONE enemy is a good thing? OK.
Posting opinions on games you haven't played is a good thing? OK.
>>331334987
>Kek. Says the defender of a single Path in SMW.
>>331331559
>Wrong
>Debatable
>Very wrong
>Embarrassingly wrong
>Rest is also wrong
Fucking retarded as hell.
>>331325506
Who cares?
Yoshi's Island is much better than both of them.
both games were already surpassed by the infinitely superior originals, Sonic 2 and SMB3.
>>331335159
>wow look at all this shit taste and wrong opinions
Which you haven't debated (or don't know how to). It's good to know what the Mario fanbase is.
http://strawpoll.me/7126342
>>331335523
>SMW has better art
You are literally blind and retarded.
>>331335564
YI is shit.
boring slow platforming with intuitive egg mechanics. getting 100% is a nightmare and not in the fun way. literally the only good thing to come from it was the music.
>>331335523
>better music
>>Debatable
>>331332986
>>331331559
"Hold right!"
"Do I need to dodge enemies?"
"Nah, press down and you kill them"
Great gameplay, 10/10.
The one thing I can't believe is that some people think the music in SMW is better. I barely even remember it. Give me some examples of the best songs from it.
>>331335363
clearly pretty low if there's actually people like you on this board
>DURRR LOOK HOW FAST I'M GOING THIS IS SO FUN OH NO I GOT HIT OH IT DOESN'T MATTER I CAN JUST GET THIS SINGLE RING AGAIN AND AGAIN AND NEVER FUCKING DIE BECAUSE THAT'S GREAT GAME DESIGN
>>331335634
>pick one or more
You had one fucking job anon.
>>331333481
It really doesn't. No where near as memorable, catchy or good as SMW
>>331335747
Alright.
LIST OF OBJECTIVELY GOOD SONGS FROM SUPER MARIO WORLD:
>>331335726
"Hold right!"
"Do I need to dodge enemies?"
"Nah, jump and you kill them"
Great gameplay, 10/10.
>>331335634
>100% mario
Sonic autists blow the fuck by superior, objective opinions.
>>331335747
really nigga?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7bvnjQMgq4
literally the greatest song nintendo has ever composed.
>>331333682
>It's literally everything SMW is and much more.
>literally
>>331335835
>I played Sonic for 5 seconds and formed an opinion about it
Although more likely you're just shitposting.
>>331335918
Or hold down, just spin dash through entire levels was so easy.
>>331335747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N06X9k2kJGk
>>331335903
All of them?
>>331335873
But they are.
>>331335939
imagine disliking the smw athletic theme
>>331335918
not all enemies can be killed by jumping, anon
not even spin-jump kills everything
>>331335975
how many times have you used that argument in this thread alone?
>>331335957
Yes. Are you stupid? It has all the linear platforming mechanics of SMW, plus slope physics and uncapped momentum. When I say literally SMW and more, I mean it.
>>331333682
>movement is affected by speed and angle on terrain. The game has basic physical rules
you're describing SMW here, you know that right?
>>331335438
2D Mario levels just consist of ONE linear path to reach the goal. In S3&K gives the option for more. Look with your eyes.
>>331335975
nice barthouse
>>331336032
>list has none
>he thinks this means "all"
Are you OK?
>>331336210
nigger multiple exits are a thing in SMW, are you retarded?
>>331334965
You know what? I forgot Sonic3&K were essential 2 games put together. It's hard to compete with that. But like the other anon said, if they could release a game in halves for both full price, then that's a different story.
>>331336032
None.
>>331332269
except good base design
>>331336202
SMW does not have this, you are fucking retarded.
The closest it has is the butt slide on slopes, and even this isn't remotely as in depth and relevant as it is in Sonic.
>>331336262
Is English not your first language?
>literally having serious arguments over godawful ""'classic""" children's games
are you guys ok?
>>331325506
>comparing a launch title to a late gen title
Why do you guys do this?
I mean, if we're going to compare 1st party exclusives, why not compare S&K to Donkey Kong Country 2?
t. Kirbyfag mentality
>>331336210
>cherrypicking linear levels from a game that has nearly 60 more levels than s3nk
nice meme
>>331336430
Shut up, kid.
>>331336136
>Slope physics.
Amazing argument, forgetting Mario had something like that as well. On top of that, the "momentum" was always in a set piece where you had no control or when doing anything other than spin dashing was the only thing to do and you were pretty much just watching Sonic go right.
>>331336430
yes dad .. god..........
>>331336483
SMW is quantity over quality. And that example you posted still does not come close to the depth of level design in S3&K.
But is there a SMW theme as good as Hydrocity Zone?
>>331336523
nice projection
i think someone has a little growing up to do
enjoy your flashy colours and cute characters you fucking manchild
>>331336305
I'm talking about actual level design (i.e the TERRAIN). They're just horribly linear, simple and plain landscapes with no variety.
>>331336618
here's another one
>>331336546
>Amazing argument, forgetting Mario had something like that as well.
See >>331336372
>On top of that, the "momentum" was always in a set piece where you had no control or when doing anything
Completely fucking wrong, thanks for being yet another retarded shit revealing they never played Sonic for more than a few seconds.
>>331336210
>Dat cherry picking
Multiple paths and multiple exits which lead to more paths on the game map itself. All this, plus much more interaction with terrain and puzzles and 60 or more levels.
>>331336483
lol that's still linear as fuck
>>331336618
>SMW is quantity over quality
And it had higher quantity and quality over S3&K
i like both
>>331336756
Holy shit dude just stop.
>>331336446
Because not even Sonicucks could defend that, at least with these two the can have some delusion of Sonic standing a chance.
the only thing sonic 3 has going for it is the soundtrack
i don't understand how anyone thinks the snes soundchip is better than the genesis one
at the very least people made much better use of the genesis one than the snes one
>>331336858
Kill yourself.
>>331336904
>Marble Garden
>>331336618
THE GAME SENT SONIC THROUGH SOME LOOPS OR AN ELEVATOR! THAT MEANS ITS A MULTIPLE PATH.
Sonic 3 & Knuckles was the beginning of the downfall of Sonic because Sega decided to Jew customers by releasing two halves of one game at full price each, setting the precedent for fucking up the development process because they think Sonic fans would slurp down whatever bullshit they shat out instead of demanding a well-made game. Obviously they were right.
>>331336430
Caring about child's game such as hockey or football
>Grow up manchildren
>>331336904
>Posting one of the worst levels when talking about level design.
>>331336765
>Chops the argument in half
>"Y-you never played it!"
Well played, you sure showed him.
>>331337040
You sent Sonic through loops.*
Aside from occasional gimmicks, you always have full control over Sonic in the environment.
>>331336904
>3 separate paths made to look complex by criss-crossing over eachother constantly
>smw level has six unique paths that have actual meaning because one of them leads to a secret exit
>>331337026
>pic is alpha vs neetlol
The original SMW was good for its time but the problem is that it's too simplistic. There's very little replay value because the levels are all very same-y in terms of design and gameplay; especially once you get the cape. Things only really get interesting once you get to the Special World.
Sonic 3 has better replay value and overall more interesting level design.
>>331337152
There was nothing about the rest of his argument that makes it valid. Control is not taken away from the player, and momentum is not an automated set piece by any means.
>>331336904
>Arguing superior level design
>Posts the worst level
Look boys! Its a retard!
>>331337101
>I know nothing about the design processe abut the game or the choice of hardware, but I bet they were trying to jew people.
Shut up faggot.
>>331336904
>Sonic
>Game that crows about its speed.
>Making you do this god awful platforming with its dog shit physics.
Fucking hilarious.
>>331337194
>Sonic level is 10x larger and more complex with far more to offer
>m-muh secret exits!!
>>331325506
Did someone say "and Knuckles"?
>Literally hold right to win
Mario wins again with its complex level design.
>>331337396
Marketing that crows about its speed.*
You only have yourself to blame for being a retard that bought into the marketing bullshit.
>>331337157
Did you ever play it? It literally sent Sonic through uncontrollable but fast pipes or elevators all the time.
>>331337407
>Far more to offer
>LOOK MA! INSTEAD OF RUNNING FAST IN THE LOWER ROUTE I'M DOING IT IN THE HIGHER ROUTE!
>>331337396
>>331337531
>uncontrollable
Nope. Most of the time you have full control of Sonic. Try again anon.
>>331337587
>Mario
>LOOK MA! I'M RUNNING AT A FIXED SPEED ON THE ONLY FUCKING ROUTE!
>>331337264
>was always in a set piece where you had no control or when doing anything other than spin dashing was the only thing to do and you were pretty much just watching Sonic go right.
>had no control or when doing anything
>no control or when doing
>control or when
>or
Jesus Christ, its embarrassing watching Sonic fans try to argue anything.
>>331326435
>tfw rome is best country on earth
#2big2fail
>>331325506
It's actually pretty hard. But I think I'll choose SMW
>One of the best Mario games ever
>Awesome music
>Nostalgia. It was the very first game I ever played.
>I prefer completing the Star Road than collecting the Dragon Emeralds, I mean the Chaos Balls.
>Rom-Hacks. Some of them are awesome.
But I still like Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
>Nice gameplay, altough it feels a lot like Sonic 2 and 1
>It has Knuckles
>Variety of playable characters
>It has Knuckles
>Music is good
>It has Knuckles
>>331325506
Super Mario World. It had an entire world map and you could find secret levels.
>>331336210
And yet SMW has tons and tons more levels.
You also don't have to play them linear either unless you use the cheat code in zone 1.
>>331337773
>If I keep saying it, maybe it will become true
Debating obviously isn't one of your strengths.
>>331337973
You're doing the same thing pal.
>>331337874
>>Nice gameplay, altough it feels a lot like Sonic 2 and 1
Whats your point?
>people actually think this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INC0Qu4fzlc
>is better than this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo_4R17gYSY
>>331325506
fuck, this whole thread is some meta-tier bait or some shit
how shit has everything become?
>>331338281
it is, though.
posting best track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsS-UDyNKf0
>>331338365
>how shit has everything become?
Look no further than the people saying SMW is better than S3&K. Major shit gauge right there.
>>331338458
And you are objectively wrong.
I'm not even saying that jokingly. Lava Reef is objectively better than that shitty grandpa loop.
Lava Reef is a rich song with substance and SMW Overworld is a bare minimum "so the level isn't silent" shit tune.
>>331338716
>Random instruments that create a huge mess
>Lava Reef is a rich song with substance
>>331338716
nah
>>331338931
6/10 bait I will admit you almost got me with that one.
>>331336930
What do you mean?
SMW is better than any of the DKCs.
>>331338953
The delusional nintoddler nostalgiafag everyone, incapable of forming a solid rational basis to support the game he grew up with because he's wrong, and thus resorts to grunting single syllables of objection.
>>331339035
>I'll say that he is baiting
>That makes me the winner!
>>331339354
>claiming Lava Reef is "random instruments that create a huge mess"
>isn't bait
Is this meta bait?
>>331338510
Nah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlV6sFcMtcA
>mfw that bass
Everyone in this thread is an ass.
Both the comparatively worst of the "classic" series (Mario 1/USA/3/World and Sonic 1/2/CD/3) but still very good games.
Tie.
None of you were alive when these games came out, shut up.
>>331338510
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyDc1H0GrPw
Gets me hype everytime
>>331336845
Linear levels with no challenge; sounds right for a Mario game. Also can you explain what SMW does better than S3&K? If you can of course.
>>331335939
>>331336012
you guys can't seriously think these are anywhere near Sonic music right?
There are two types of video game music. The kind that works for games and the kind you can listen to by itself like any other song. Mario is great for games, and that's all.
It's like I am in the '90 againS3&K is better
>>331339765mine was b8
>>331339891
So inside of your dad's ballsack?
>>331339765
>backtracking
>>331337396
>He doesn't know you can go fast with skill
Kek.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kOAdhUlkt0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6yZxuDFGG0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwUyiwb8sa0
>>331339945
nice bait nintentoddler
>>331340124
Not him, and I defend classic Sonic, but its worst problem is how close the camera is. In these videos there are clearly moments where a jump is made before what it's made for is even visible with the camera.
I love S3&K, in fact I was playing it yesterday on my Saturn.
But I dunno, they're very different games to compare.
You can't juggle with objects on Sonic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWgvPSkgMzY
