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Can't merry emily
>>331301918
What's fun about it?
Numerous bugs regarding AI pathfinding, end of day saving and the occasional bit of getting stuck in the scenery if you've drank coffe springs to mind. It's a pretty good game otherwise, though I feel like it gets rather tedious after second spring. Provided you've worked hard you'll have more money than you know what to do with, enough to buy most anything, including enough stone to reliably get yourself to floor 100 of the second mine with all the iridium you could ever need.
The romance options are terrible and i never have any idea where anyone is on a given day
Combat skill is completely worthless
the graphics are shit, otherwise it seems like a decent harvest moon ripoff
>>331301918
portrait art and characters need work. But other than that it's pretty comfy.
>>331301949
And fucking this.
>>331301918
It's a grindfest
The characters are all unlikable
Shills
no mac
>>331301949
You can't?
Fuck. Thank god I didn't play too much of this game before some decent mods come out.
The default portraits are pretty ugly too.
Other than that, it's really preachy with it's scenario, and it didn't give what Harvest Moon really needed, which is believable characters who have shit to say that's not just "nice weather today" or "This is what happened to me today, this is how my kind of character reacts to it"
>>331302352
thats what happens when you have one neet doing all the writing.
>>331302292
>It's a grindfest
Every HM/RF game ever.
ugly artstyle and >>331301949
You need a mod to remove the coloured gentleman
Game is over by winter of the first year, there's literally nothing left to do or accomplish
>>331301918
The combat is fucking shit
No tutorial.
>2d indie pixelshit
>copied gameplay from another series
>nothing new and innovative about it
i just named 3
your move
>>331302536
i'm at my first fall and it already feels like there's nothing left to see
plant the most profitable plants, get kegs/preservers, some other plants for the community center
then you just fucking water your shit and go for dungeon runs while handing out gifts like some kind of creepy bastard that's desperate for love and affection
>>331301918
Are people unironically going to call this shill's dream good? It's literally Harvest Moon, but if it was called that, it would be a "lazy rehash"
Fuck off /r/gaming
Been about four days and I haven't found a reason to go into town and talk to anybody.
The only flaw is the fact that it's /v/'s new shitposting target. I'm sure it's because it's new and not about e-celebs.
>>331302696
>go for dungeon runs
You mean back to sleep so your kegs and shit process faster.
I am playing RF4.
What's a better game, this or RF4? First I have ever heard of it.
>>331302817
ProJared said he couldn't find a flaw with Stardew Valley. His opinion trumps all of /v/'s...except mine of course.
>>331303082
RF4 is much better
>>331301949
wait what
no
but i gave her minerals
MINERALS ANON
>>331301918
I grew out of Harvest Moon when I was 15.
>>331301918
It's not on a handheld yet
I want it on Vita badly.
>>331303279
Did you never open the relationship panel and see who had SINGLE next to their name
>>331301918
Well, for starters building a barn/house that close to a ledge is not a great idea.
Why is the chicken free like that? It could easily run to said ledge and fall.
>>331303335
>NTR is not a possibility
this game is SHIT
>shit choice of girls
>ugly artstyle
>grind grind grind
>>331303390
Yeah, would have been nice to remind the coalburner who's got the goods
>>331303335
Didn't even know the game had a relationship panel, also people have been shagging barmaids since Pompeii, cut me some slack
>>331301918
Derivative, mediocre, borderline plagiarism garbage for the lowest millennial SJW tumblerina scum that never heard about Harvest Moon.
>>331303453
It's right there anytime you open your inventory or try to craft something
>>331301918
You have to fix Abigail yourself.
>>331301918
it's a worse ripoff of rune factory
>>331303556
lmao
>>331303556
This is even worse
The game was honestly pretty great aside from the marriage candidates, they all suck horribly. I wish I could play more harvest moon games on my PC.
>>331303556
She's looking a little, what's the word
Wide?
>copy harvest moon wholesale
>don't add any new features
>zero charms
>graphics are somehow even worse
>girls aren't anime cute
bravo west developers
>>331303660
Fits her character better.
>>331301918
shit art;_;
>>331303697
Is her character "fat tumblr whale"? I've always avoided her fatass.
>>331303556
That is fucking horrible.
Accurate, but horrible.
http://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/?
Mods are all terrible so far
boring
>>331301918
Can't marry Jas.
>this one battle is better than entire stardew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBYO2GVLOW8
rf5 never
>>331304079
>He doesn't know
so after being cucked when courting pic-related, i've been on a lookout for a better waifu. who'd you recommend, /v/?
>>331302868
ye fuckin mite as well
once you get some sprinklers and the energy boost from the mines there's relaly no reason to go back
fuckin
keg life
>>331301918
refund after 17min
It gets pretty boring after you've experienced a whole year. Nothing changes. Literally the main reward you get for doing stuff well is an item that gives you small amounts of the best ore every day. You end up having way too much money that you have no idea what to spend it on.
I hope the dev adds some extra content at some point, cause it has nothing else after the first year. Even the dialog during the Year 2 festivals is exactly the same.
kind of repetitive. I'm at the end of winter year 1. done nearly half the bundles (without using joja mart) and burned out. it's a great game though. I can easily see some people putting hundreds of hours into it. I was nearly 40 hours in....when multiplayer drops it could awesome again for me. overall though...still a great game and I know I've not seen a lot of content yet. it does keep on giving in that way as long as you don't mind the farming grind.
literal Facebook game
>>331304149
What? Did I miss the muslim DLC release?
Made by a pedo
>>331301918
Can't even play it. Crashes constantly
>>331304426
like I wish you could hire people to do the farm work for you. and you could pay them a certain portion of your profits etc. I mean sprinklers help but damn all those animals and other shit to do.
>>331304512
K.. KEEP ME POSTED
>>331304426
I'll probably play it more when the multiplayer drops as well. I have another friend that got me to get it in the first place and I'd like to play with him.
>>331304534
>he hasn't found the Sparvet Hites yet
The girl I want is married to a black science guy
Cuckold Simulator 2017
>>331301918
- lack of innovation over the obvious inspirations
- mismatched "pixelated" resolutions and disregard for the grid
- lackluster gamepad support
>>331304584
what are you gonna do in multiplayer exactly? farm alongside each other? there's like zero incentive for this game to have multiplayer, if it's co-op and someone is just watering your crops for you you might aswell not play it seeing that's all the game is
>>331302529
lol
>there's a weapon stronger than the Lava Katana
>you have to grind for it
>literally nothing worth using it on once you get it
>>331301918
Both romance and combat are terrible.
Basically no new content after the first year is finished.
A lot of the rewards you get from doing the community center bundles aren't worth very much, specially the fishing one. Bus and Greenhouse are the best.
The friendship/relationship stuff is incredibly shallow. It's not worth cultivating friendships/relationships with many of the people in the town.
It's glitchy as fuck sometimes. I glitched out during the ice fishing festival and I couldn't do anything but watch the others win.
It's really easy to make shitloads of money by just growing potatos/strawberries/blueberries/cranberries/starfruits. Literally no other crop matters.
Animals don't do shit but give you things that give you shit-all money. Not worth having at all.
After you get the Galaxy Sword and Iridium Pickaxe, mining becomes basically useless.
It's a game with many, many problems. But during that first year it's quite entertaining.
>>331301918
It will turn into a goddamn Terraria sooner or later.
Farming, fishing, foraging and mining will soon be something minor while combat will be most focused one.
>>331305660
You really haven't played the game, have you? Mining and combat go hand in hand, because the combat is in the mines. Mining/Combat is just another method of getting resources or money just like all the others. And the system is quite simple and wouldn't ever be focused on. simpler than Terraria.
Is this a sandbox farming sim for autists or does it have a story and an ending?
I'd be okay with both just asking
>>331305886
from what I can tell, neither. It's a half-assed HW clone
>>331305886
Yeah it has a story, but it's pretty loose. It also has an incredibly loose "ending", but you can still keep going after it. Remember that this game was basically the dev making a Harvest Moon clone to learn how to code.
Too much character.
>>331304731
dude...everything in the game will be better with a friend. even just running around not doing shit will be fun.
>>331307596
>running around
not your point, but I picked up on that phrase, and the running kind of bothered me. The whole game tries way too hard to be all calm and relaxed, and then you got that running function in there, or better, you got that sluggish walk option, that looks like it's only in there because they wanted a second movement animation. There's no drawback to running all the time, it just doesn't work. Like the rest of the whole game, really, it looks uninspired, careless and shallow.
>>331304240
I can't believe her and Sam were fooling around. I bought her a fucking bouquet of flowers, man. When I found her and Sam playing with each other I threw them into the trash and burned down her trailer.
Just go play Rune Factory or Harvest Moon instead.
>>331308934
you don't understand anon, there's never going to be another new HM or RF game ever again. So that means there's only a finite number of them. Are we not allowed to branch out and enjoy new takes on the franchise?
>>331309368
Not if the new takes are shit, no. And I honestly doubt you'd have played every single RF and HM anyway, and if you did, then I'm going to guess you'd have more fun with playing one of those again.
>>331309368
>there's never going to be another new HM or RF game ever again
The existing ones still work fine. Stardew adds nothing new. So that can't be the motivation to play it.
>branch out and enjoy new takes on the franchise
Oh? Got any suggestions?
>>331309504
>Not if the new takes are shit
Did you play this one? It's not perfect, but it's fine for a first try.
>>331309591
Literally nothing to do after you finish the first year though.
>>331304240
how does she cuck you
>>331309591
>it's fine for a first try
No, not really. It's unpolished, half assed, and what it copied, it copied without understanding
>>331309591
I did not. I only watched a few videos and reviews, and concluded it was worse than existing HM and RF games. So, shit in my opinion. That it's a good first try is fucking irrelevant, pong is a good first try at video games but it's still a shit game.
>>331301918
No mega
>>331309748
>pong is a shit game
Whoah there anon, don't cut yourself with all that edge.
>>331301918
when will they let me marry the loli?
>>331309748
>pong is a good first try at video games but it's still a shit game
The direct analog controls, and no fuss approach make it quite playable and entertaining
>>331309860
When it's grown up. Characters do grow/age in the game, don't they?
>>331309525
>Stardew adds nothing new
Sprinklers alone disproves that, which are a godsend, in addition to a wider range of animals to tend to and brewing. Honestly this game is like the older Harvest Moon games with a bit of Rune Factory and costs half as much as any of the Harvest Moon/RF games. It's better than any modern HM game.
But given that it's a new game, and an indie at that, /v/ only shitposts about it and you're not allowed to like it.
>>331309848
How is that fucking edgy? It has terrible graphics, the gameplay is incredibly simple, the replay value is incredibly repetitive, no online, controllers are unergonomic, there's no story whatsoever, the sound is shit when it's there, it's incompatible with modern TVs, etc.
>>331309880
That does not make it a good game in my opinion. Plenty of games have that.
>>331310013
>and costs half as much as any of the Harvest Moon/RF games.
Recently bought Rune Factory for 20€, this costs 15$.
>>331310013
>Honestly this game is like the older Harvest Moon games
That's precisely its problem. It brings nothing new to the table.
>>331301949
/thread
>>331301918
the game gets boring as fuck if you automate your farm
>>331310029
>Plenty of games have that
A feature being common does not diminish the value of that feature.
What other games use direct analog pot input? Not thumbsticks or joystick, they're indirect. And games tend to lose their focus. You get start screens, menus, options, intros, tutorials and all that other noise
1st year is fun. By the beginning of 2nd year though you have it all. By summer everything I had was automated and I was making almost 200k every 4 days just from blueberries.
>>331301918
Not as good as Rune Factory
>>331304602
he's not even trying in their marriage, i raged at those events.
>>331310220
Manually watering your farm at least gives you something to do. After you get iridium sprinklers and everything gets watered for you though, there's nothing to do because you always wake up at 6 in the morning and nothing in the town opens until 9.
>>331310373
Growing only blueberries/cranberries completely breaks the game cause of the stupid amount of money they give you.
>>331310308
>A feature being common does not diminish the value of that feature.
Why not? If it's common enough than it's no reason to like the game. It's like saying you like a particular TV show just because it has an intro, shit's retarded.
>Not thumbsticks or joystick, they're indirect.
How is that indirect? Assuming you're not just talking about how games interpret those input of course, because that would be retarded.
>>331305886
it's a sandbox game.
>>331310013
>Sprinklers alone disproves that, which are a godsend
>>331310220
>the game gets boring as fuck if you automate your farm
>By summer everything I had was automated
I really like how these three posts together prove perfectly how the developer did not give their mechanics a single thought
>>331310478
>How is that indirect?
With a pot you determine the exact position. Speed is a side effect of setting the position quickly or slowly.
With a stick you determine speed. Position is determined by applying that speed for a time, which is not in control of the player
>>331310582
Couldn't you have those fairies do all your work in HM? Never really understood that mechanic myself honestly.
Need to swap Demetrius and Linus manually
homeless nigger seem more fit
>>331310747
>With a stick you determine speed.
No. With a stick you tell the console a direct position. The game can then either translate that direct position to a speed in the game or a direct position in the game.
You're saying the same thing I already said was retarded.
>>331310582
The post about everything being automated is posted by an idiot. The only thing you can automate is crops. You still need to take care of animals and refill kegs.
But I don't expect logic to be followed in a thread taken over by shitposters.
>>331301918
Chore simulator
>>331310854
>autofeed barn
>only need to refill kegs every 6 days
>>331310843
sticks have a dedicated center position, and springs to return the stick to that center, when no force is applied. As such, a stick digitizes a value that's away from the center, a delta. Position is not a delta, speed (or acceleration) is.
>>331310854
>You can't automate your farm because these things that are completely optional can't be automated
Then don't use those? You can still automate them.
>>331311010
I wish there was a robot that automatically petted all the damn animals so they'd give me big eggs/milk
>>331311119
>As such, a stick digitizes a value that's away from the center, a delta. Position is not a delta, speed (or acceleration) is.
That is incredibly fucking autistic. Position can be a delta, and pro-tip rotating fucking knobs also determine the position by a delta. Both are just transmitting the position to the console.
You're fucking retarded mate, and you keep moving goalposts.
>>331311173
ya then i'd be able to just go to bed as soon as a wake up
>>331311010
>still need to milk, shear, pet, and collect eggs, and collect crops
>it's another smug anime face shitpost
>>331311327
The perfect life
>even bothering to have animals when crops make you a million a season
>>331311173
But that's not how love works, anon
>>331311312
>Position can be a delta
Got an example?
>rotating fucking knobs also determine the position by a delta
Pots deliver an absolute value, not unlike a stick. The difference is largely in the auto-centering
>Both are just transmitting the position to the console.
Both transmit values, of course, can't have any input without data. The difference is in the physics.
>You're fucking retarded mate, and you keep moving goalposts.
But do I use a pot or a stick for that? Actually, it's just you desperately trying to argue because you don't understand the difference between the inputs. Because if there was none, surely pots would be as common still as they used to be
>>331311483
>tfw you're the king of blueberries
>>331311620
>Got an example?
GPS.
>>331311678
Not exactly a game, or using player input
Being friends with people is pointless because you don't know where they are half the time. I wish their locations were shown on the map. Same with where you find certain fish and such.
>>331305430
>Iridum pickaxe
Why? Just sell all your crops, go buy a billion stone, make a million stairs, and that level has more iridum than youll ever need anyway
>>331311791
Their schedules are all pretty easy to figure out. Also the community center practically tells you where to find a good chunk of the fish. And even if you keep having trouble the official wiki is pretty good.
>>331311858I enjoyed the mining. Sue me.
>>331311791
>because you don't know where they are half the time
How is that a problem?
>I wish their locations were shown on the map
No, you don't, you really don't. There are better mechanisms to find NPCs, and plenty of times it's desirable to not be able to find them at any given moment
>Same with where you find certain fish and such.
You sound like you just want to 100% the collectathon, and not actually bother with the game. Understandable though.
>>331311929
>the official wiki
Fuck that noise, any game having out-of-band information is an instant show stopper
>>331312013
Collecting all the things was one of the reasons I even played the game for so long. There's some fish I can't find and I just don't want to bother anymore.
>>331311791
>Being friends with people is pointless because you don't know where they are half the time.
>You move into a new town and automatically know where everyone you've never met before is located at all times
Which one of these are more likely
>>331311173
Anon, this is a rural farming simulator, not industrial farming simulator
>>331311756
>Not exactly a game
Correct. Seems you aren't that retarded. You never asked for an example of a position being a delta in a game though.
>Not exactly ... using player input
It does, depending on your definition of "player".
>>331311791
How about being friends with people is pointless because all they do is give you useless recipes anyway?
At least that GC harvest moon has them give you unique gifts or services
>>331312013
>>>I wish their locations were shown on the map
>No, you don't, you really don't. There are better mechanisms to find NPCs, and plenty of times it's desirable to not be able to find them at any given moment
I like that from RF though. Why wouldn't you want it?
It doesn't look right at 4k.
>>331312094
You must hate every game in existence then but thanks for ignoring what I said before that statement, shitposter
>>331312292
>Why wouldn't you want it?
Gives the NPCs more autonomy and creates interactions with the NPCs that may not be your actual target NPCs (Hey X, any idea where Y is? Sure, they went with Z to A, over there, like they do every other day)
>>331312125
Video games aren't real life.
>>331312218
>You never asked for an example of a position being a delta in a game though
Learn to context. You're desperately trolling a gaming input exchange.
>It does, depending on your definition of "player".
What's the input? Where's the delta? You know that a delta requires a neutral base value, right?
>>331312425
Sounds like a hassle to me, purely for one more line of dialogue that then basically does the same as a good map?
>>331312431
>Video games aren't real life.
They're not?! I wish someone had told me that sooner!
>>331312350
>You must hate every game in existence
And now is your shining chance to tell me the official wiki and/or required reading of Tetris or Super Mario that's not in the game or its manual.
>>331301918
it's not free
>>331312523
>Learn to context.
No, you learn to context. I never referred to a game when I was talking about games, you assumed I did.
>What's the input?
I'm not sure how GPS works on that level, but I assume some sort of ping to a satellite.
>Where's the delta?
The distance between you and the satellite.
>You know that a delta requires a neutral base value, right?
Yes, the satellite's position.
Sorry, I assumed GPS was simple enough for you to understand as an example. Should've picked something more simple.
>>331312626
Not that anon, but isn't half the fun of fishing figuring out when the fish appear and shit? Lots of NPCs give you clues, the community bundles give you clues, that TV show will tell you about hard to find fish, if you dig up enough books one tells you the locations of all the legendary fish, etc etc.
>>331312626
Okay fine. You hate all games post-NES/SNES. But again, thank you for ignoring half of what I say, really makes it easy to disregard you.
>>331312431
This one is trying to emulate it, to some degree
>>331312527
You might not be interested in that kind of game then.
>purely for one more line of dialogue that then basically does the same as a good map?
Why would you think that? Small-talking with them improves your status with them, and they might pick up on your own schedule (you do have one, right?) so in the future the NPCs might visit or seek you, instead of you doing all the upfront work. Remember, HW/RF/SV is, in theory, anyway, bit of a social network game. That means you do not want to give the player too many tools to avoid social interaction, and instead value social interaction beyond gifts and the player initiating everything
>>331312608
Good. Now you'll stop applying real life logic to them.:^)
>>331312817
I tend to not play many modern games, because out of band communication is a big no-no for me, among many other reasons.
>>331312861
Life simulation games aren't truly realistic. Which is fine. Adding a way to find someone you just met won't break immersion.
>>331312861
>Why would you think that?
Because it's the only example I can think of.
>so in the future the NPCs might visit or seek you, instead of you doing all the upfront work.
Wait, NPC change their routines then? That makes that asking even more of a hassle, because then you'd need to ask somebody again if you're looking for them in the original spot. I'd want a map even more in that case.
>>331301949
That was bullshit bro.
I have more hearts with her than fucking penny.
>>331301918
fishing is useless and no fishtanks for rare fishes that just stay on pocket
>>331312732
>never referred to a game
>>331309748
>the satellite's position
They're not geo stationary.
You're also wildly confusing inputs. Nice sense of superiority though. Well done.
>>331313016
>Adding a way to find someone you just met won't break immersion
Certainly doesn't. It just makes you sidestep other social interactions, that could become an integral part of gameplay instead
>>331312963
Well that's fine. Most old games are better than new ones anyways. I'm just saying, the game does make an effort to tell you everything without needing a wiki. NPCs will occasionally tell you what the NPCs they're related to like, and you can find hidden books in the ground that tell you several niche details in the game, like the locations of the legendary fish.
>>331313053
>hassle
Sounds like you're not interested in NPC interaction to begin with. Why would you play a game with that as its focus?
>the original spot
How long do you stay in one spot? NPCs are your peers.
>>331313175
>>never referred to a game
>>>331309748(You)
Sorry, something went wrong in my post. Instead of "talking about games" it should've said "talking about positions and deltas". Not to mention, when you mentioned that position is not a delta, you posted it as a universal fact. A universal fact to backup a claim that was about games.
>>331313175
>They're not geo stationary.
Okay? They still know their location.
>You're also wildly confusing inputs.
How? What inputs am I confusing?
>>331313293
>the game does make an effort to tell you everything without needing a wiki
That's how it should be. Anything else is inacceptable. Though it should go beyond "effort". That's the minimum standard.
The controls
>>331313472
It does more than most games do. It just doesn't make it super obvious right in your face handholding.
>>331313472
Still this anon
>>331312767
I don't think rare fish should be told exactly where and when you can catch them anyway, that's part of the hunt. Nor is the lack of info on them out of band required reading. That's like saying all the locations of warp exits in super mario not being in the manual is out of band required reading
>>331313354
>Sounds like you're not interested in NPC interaction to begin with.
Why do you think that? I am interested in it. I am not interested in chasing them down by obscure means though.
>How long do you stay in one spot? NPCs are your peers.
Fucking hell, I meant the spot in any given time. So their route if you assume I don't keep thinking. Obviously I adjust where I'm going based on the time and how long it takes to go somewhere.
>>331312963
>hating a game for a reason as arbitrary and irrelevant as it having a wiki
http://tetris.wikia.com/wiki/Tetris_Wiki
Even Tetris has a wiki. You hate almost every game.You are a true citizen of /v/.
>>331313175
Just shut the fuck up you retard. Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about, and you're the fucker that keeps talking about bullshit that's not even fucking relevant.
>>331313458
>when you mentioned that position is not a delta, you posted it as a universal fact
In an exchange about games and game inputs. That said, care to have an example of position being a delta?
>They still know their location
It's not neutral, there is no base location from which they're offset (the concept of a delta)
>How? What inputs am I confusing?
GPS is a combined input from multiple sources to perform triangulation. It's a sensor. A game input is an active manipulation, with the sensor merely being the mechanism to sense the input performed. The closests thing to an input in that sense in the GPS system would be moving the receiver, which is a bit meaningless and has no neutral position.
Analog movement is fucked for me. My controller is properly calibrated but the character will walk when I want him to run and vice versa
>>331313517
>It just doesn't make it super obvious right in your face handholding
Where does that came from? Nobody's talking about spelling everything out for you. The problem is when out of band information is required to play a game. Say, a game has its map posted on a wiki, and the game assumes the player is familiar with the map, because it's on the wiki. If the map is essential for the game, it better be available in the game (don't care how obscured) or the manual
>>331301918
it has more replayability than Friends of Mineral Town and any other harvest moon game, so it's already half-decent
combat is shit
>>331313810
>That said, care to have an example of position being a delta?
Read the thread, I already posted one.
>It's not neutral
How is it not neutral?
>there is no base location from which they're offset (the concept of a delta)
Why do you even think this though? Delta is nothing more than a difference. As long as you know the beginning and the end, there's a delta. This is the case for GPS.
>GPS is a combined input from multiple sources to perform triangulation. It's a sensor. A game input is an active manipulation, with the sensor merely being the mechanism to sense the input performed. The closests thing to an input in that sense in the GPS system would be moving the receiver, which is a bit meaningless and has no neutral position.
Okay? You still didn't answer the question you were responding to though.
>>331313251
Good point.
>it's a Harvest Moon clone
>except better in every way
>people still call it shit
to be fair, the Harvest Moon games were always shit, and it was pointless to plant anything other than the most expensive crops, or even interact with anyone. Never played Rune Factory.
After a while the game starts to become a bit too easy. You're always bringing in shit tons of money so you're never strapped for cash. Then it turns out that just growing stuff like blueberries which constantly give you crops that give tons of money.is the best way to make money, and every other way to make money just seems tertiary and sidelined.
>>331313589
>I don't think rare fish should be told exactly where and when you can catch them anyway
duh?
>Nor is the lack of info on them out of band required reading
I didn't claim otherwise.
>That's like saying all the locations of warp exits in super mario not being in the manual is out of band required reading
Iff they are required to play through the game, it's out of band bullshit. If they're secrets, that's cool
>>331311929
suggested that the official wiki is treated like some fluent manual thing, that's supposed to be known info for the player, but it's not part of the game, or its manual.
If it's just a guide and secrets then it's just useless bullshit anyway and shouldn't be in an "official wiki".
>>331301918
- Older portraits were better than the final product
- Post-Marriage conversations are the same for all suitors
- Almost all of the content is based around first year and doesn't change much in year 2 and beyond
- Fertilizers and other plant helpers are beyond tedious to apply and it's always better to just plant more
- The way tools and specifically watering cans power up, it's much better (and cheaper!) to just invest in sprinklers
- Animals are meh
- >>331301949
- move speed is 1/3rd of what it should be
- fruit trees are weak for their cost. the idea of making your money back in 1 year and a profit in years thereafter is nice on paper but I can just spam blueberries and shit for more money than I can possibly use
- It's easy to get more money than you can possibly use and there aren't that many money sinks.
That said I FUCKING LOVE THIS GAME.
>>331314003
>Combat is shit
understatement of the century
It's downright frustrating, the guy who made this game has the design sense of a fucking baboon
Did he not sit down and ask, at any point, "Is this fun?"
This spreadsheet game hurts me
>>331311119
The paddles work by generating a voltage to a fixed reference position by the way, i.e. it's a delta. So according to your logic, it's not a position.
>>331313709
Last I checked this wiki is not official (remember? That was part of the deal), created or endorsed by the Tetris company, Nintendo or anybody else associated with the game, or marked as required info for the game
>>331313760
>game inputs, not relevant to gaming
You go, girl
>>331314339
>This spreadsheet game hurts me
what are you on about
>>331301918
too expensive
>>331314478
What? That's not what I said. You're generalizing this thread to a talk about gaming when it's about Stardew Valley.
It's pretty good considering it only had one guy developing it.
Where can I find portrait mods?
>>331314303
Through Year 1, I enjoyed it quite a lot as well.
After I got the greenhouse, I went and bought 120 quality fertilizer and 120 starfruit seeds from the desert shop. When they were ready to sell, I made so much money off those starfruits that I broke the money counter during the day summery.
>>331301918
IT DOSNT WORK ON VISTA GOD DAMN IT!!!!
>>331314010
>How is it not neutral?
What's the resting position, that the satelite defaults to?
>Delta is nothing more than a difference
Indeed, which requires a neutral, a reference
>As long as you know the beginning and the end, there's a delta
Ah, that's the problem. A moving object has a speed, and the difference of positions between two timestamps is that speed, a delta. The position itself is not the delta though. The neutral would be no change in position. Position itself has no neutral, certainly not for these satellites, which are wildly off-topic anyway. The original subject was inputs gaming inputs. GPS is such a removed system, it's a technical, dry and off-topic exchange of random bullshit, from you, and me.
>>331314705
>IT DOSNT WORK ON VISTA GOD DAMN IT!!!!
holy shit I regret my decision to upgrade to windows 10 but I'm too lazy to revert it.
but if I still had vista I'd be taking advantage of that shit right NOW
>>331314140
>except better in every way
Name the improvements, I dare you. Not the differences, the things it does better, the mistakes it fixes.
>>331314362
What's the neutral position of the pot? What position does it go to when you remove all active input? There's more to an input than its sensor.
>>331314802
Don't skip on my questions fucker.
>A moving object has a speed, and the difference of positions between two timestamps is that speed, a delta. The position itself is not the delta though.
So, you're saying not a single difference between positions can be a delta (because all positions are moving at speeds)? Then there is not speed either, because that's the difference between positions and difference between time. And there can be no acceleration because that's the difference between speed, which is a difference between other things.
Do you realize how stupid that is?
>>331314574
I just had a casual side remark on Pong and then some anons jumped on me, trying to win an argument nobody was even starting. Don't like it? Talk about Stardew instead of responding to that pointless technical discussion I'm frankly tired of.
>>331305660
>>331305805
If you get enough Crystalariums just pooping out diamonds, and kegs pooping out pale ales, you basically can forget about doing anything for money. Just fill your greenhouse with hops and become the richest farmer alive.
>>331314989
>What's the neutral position of the pot?
Where it's 0V.
>What position does it go to when you remove all active input?
Nothing. That doesn't change how it's a delta, and thus not a position according to your logic.
I'm either waiting for a reduced price or a mod that makes the graphics look like less ass.
>>331315192
The graphics look terrible in screenshots, but they look decent enough in motion.
And I'm laffin' at your life if you can't even afford $15 to throw around. I spend that much on lunch every day.
>>331314878
Sprinklers to make crops less tedious and allow you to have more of them
More animal variations
More ways to get money
Better, more in-depth mining system
If you're like any other shitposter you'll begin to set up strawmen against these things.
The game is pretty shallow. I wish the NPCs routines were more complex. Majora's Mask is a game from 16 years ago and you feel that the characters really have routines and schedules. You can follow them and see them doing a lot of stuff. Another game that blew my mind with npcs actions was Radiata Stories. Holy shit, that game felt "alive" somehow. You could trigger events depending on the hour of the day and discover some cool secrets by simply following the npc, like discovering secret passages.
It's a shame, because this is a 2D game with a lot less characters. With a bigger development team, the result could've been amazing.
>>331315079
>I just had a casual side remark on Pong and then some anons jumped on me
No. You made a remark, then you said something that made no sense, and now you're in a discussion about it.
>trying to win an argument nobody was even starting.
You started the discussion that's been going off-topic for so long though, the delta bullshit that makes no sense. You asked for it.
>Don't like it? Talk about Stardew instead of responding to that pointless technical discussion I'm frankly tired of.
No. If you put fucking words in my mouth that I never said, then I will respond. Fucker.
>>331315049
>you're saying not a single difference between positions can be a delta
I'm not. You seem to suggest the difference between the positions of different satellites when doing the measurement. That's not a single object, not a single input.
>because all positions are moving at speeds
positions don't move, positions are. Movement is an artifact of position, speed, changing the position over time, and time
>Do you realize how stupid that is?
Do you? Should clue you in that we're talking about different things. The original subject was a simple directional input device, and the resulting interaction in a game. A game that positions an object on a screen (or in a game world), moves it over time (ticks).
Hell, the original subject was the difference between a pot and a joystick, one being auto centering, the other not so much. You completely lost track of it, argueing some odd meta physics, wildly conflating all kinds of unrelated concepts, and for what? What is your point? You're trying to win an argument, don't you? Newsflash: you won it. Get a medal, achievement unlocked, tell all your friends that you succeeded at correcting someone on the internet. You learnt nothing, you read nothing, you just cherry picked fragments and shifted exchanges, and you won, well done
>>331315357
>With a bigger development team, the result could've been amazing.
Or fucking terrible, just like every other indie game made by a "development team."
Seriously, name one game that is as good as Cave Story/Stardew/Undertale made by a development team. Remember when Minecraft was good? Yeah, Mojang really made sure the game headed in the right direction, didn't they?
Fucking indie dev teams, they can't make shit worth a damn and they fuck up potentially good products.
>>331315469
>positions don't move, positions are.
I meant the positions that humans use, of course. Can you name a single position that you could use? One that isn't relative?
>>331315345
>Sprinklers to make crops less tedious
Not an improvement, as it breaks a key aspect of the game, manual labor on a schedule
>>331309683
She can have black children when your character is white. I'm not even kidding you.
>>331315360
>I don't understand things, so I'm angry
If you're in over your head, maybe take a step back, go read a book, or play a game. Maybe something like a VN, as inputs are apparently a bit of a weak point for you.
>>331315972
Nice fucking argument. That's exactly what happened though, you can't just deny that.
>>331315827
Thanks for making my prediction correct. Strawmen.
It doesn't break anything because every other aspect of the farm requires manual labor. But you ignoring everything else already shows I've won.
They should have made sprinklers much harder to make work and having to maintain them. Having them so easily just breaks the farming aspects of the game leaving you with just tending to animals and harvesting when the plants are ripe.
>>331315357
>Majora's Mask is a game from 16 years ago and you feel that the characters really have routines and schedules.
I mean that was the whole focus of the game, the game took place over 3 days so it didn't have to have super long routines, and other parts of the game most definitely suffered because of the attention on npc's (dungeons being a example).
>>331316047
>It doesn't break anything because every other aspect of the farm requires manual labor
It breaks that particular aspect, freeing your time for other things. Mechanics don't exist in isolation
>>331316029
>Nice fucking argument
About all you deserve
>That's exactly what happened though, you can't just deny that
You getting confused and blabbering nonsense? Yeah, definitely happened. Kind of tiring though
>>331316252
>You getting confused and blabbering nonsense?
No, what I posted of course. Try and point something that's wrong, and I'll point you to where it happened.
>>331316047
Good job
>>331316153
>freeing your time for other things
>implying this is a bad thing
>continuing to ignore anything else that shows improvement for your fallacious point
Keep the strawmen up, it makes shitposting easier to deal with.
>>331303967
Because the game has to have pixel mods done from scratch. No workshop.
You are now aware of just how lazy modders are these days.
>>331302417
>Mac
>having games
>>331316312
>what I posted of course
Yeah, blabbering nonsense
>Try and point something that's wrong
All of it, since you kind of haven't understood the original statement, or the basics of input devices. But boy, do you know your physics, kind of, somewhat, mostly, just enough to blabber nonsense about it.
So far. Just this.
>>331301918
The art-style is western. No loli.
>>331311791
There's actually a fishing show on the TV from time to time that gives exact information about where and when to catch fish.
>>331316394
>implying this is a bad thing
Indeed, I am. That you're disagreeing is expected but irrelevant
>continuing to ignore anything else that shows improvement for your fallacious point
I didn't comment on the rest of your post because I was not disagreeing with it. But don't let that stop your anger over strawmen. Keep in mind, everybody on /v/ is out to get you, to tell you what you are playing, making, or talking about, is bad, and you should feel bad. We're watching you, and laughing at you.
>>331314303
Pretty much everything this anon said
But seriously, why can't you marry Emily? Does she have a secret bf? Is she considered 'too old'? I honestly don't understand
>>331316568
It's not a bad thing and you are continuing to argue after already being proven it improves the formula, seeing how you are consenting to the other points. You're retarded/shitposting.
>>331316670
She's meant forClint
>>331316568
>game has more to do it it than in Harvest Moon
>makes a single aspect of the formula faster to make up for this so you can do things without running out of time
It's not a bad thing. I can only assume you haven't played the game.
>>331316434
>All of it
No, just point to a single thing, I am not going to disect my own post for you, I assume you can read it just fine.
>since you kind of haven't understood the original statement, or the basics of input devices. But boy, do you know your physics
That's not even mentioned mate, at least not by me or in this reply chain. Clearly you have no idea what I posted, or what you even posted. Oh well, not really unexpected of somebody that can't even point out something that's wrong in my post.
Pro-tip, my post is >>331315360
Who's the biggest cuck?
>>331316690
>you must agree with me completely or you're shitposting
Yeah, no. Just enough to keep you on your toes. Got to retain your defensive and aggressive stance, so nobody will ever do anything bad to your opinion.
>being proven it improves the formula
I don't think I've seen any proof
>>331316851
Pierre.
>>331316895
>list improvements
>I'm not talking about these things because I agree they're improvements
>BUT I TOTALLY HAVEN'T SEE ANY PROOF
Fuck off
>>331316807
Tried to, but can't, because the character setup is bullshit, the different-resolution pixelation is insulting, and the gamepad controls are broken. So I'm left with looking at aspects here and there, and finding confirmation, from all kinds of sources, that the game's an uninspired HM clone.
>>331316452
Jesus christ. Delete your save now.
>>331315859
Christ the dev of this game is such a sjw waste of life.
>>331317030
>confirmation
>by filtering out whatever disproves your claims like you have been doing in this thread
>>331301949
>Wanting to cuck Clint.
He's a good guy.
>>331316976
Haven't seen proof of the automation improving anything, which was the only contested item in the list.
>>331317176
didn't have to filter anything yet. I disagree with some of the people in here, but that's fine, not everybody needs to have the same opinion. I mock some of them, especially the paranoids, expecting shitposters and trolls around every corner, and that's about it
Is there a mod to remove the nigger scientist (lmao) and coal burning carpenter (ayy) and replace them with something more realistic?
>>331317390
>dude racism lmao
You forgot to complain about their half black daughter who is following in her father's footsteps.
>>331317441
Nah I'm good. How about you go back to Tumblr?
>>331317390
any asians in there?
>>331317387
>didn't filter anything
>pretending the rest of the stuff on this post except the sprinklers doesn't exist
>>331315345
If you hate video games so much there's probably a great e-celeb thread going on just for you!
>>331314878
more customization with your farm, and better facilities
fishing isn't a joke
quality crops
community center, which gives you something to do, whereas in every harvest moon game, the game is done and fucking boring after the initial year.
>>331301918
Is there an ultimate goal to this game, or is it like Animal Crossing or something?
>western
>interracial couple
>all single girls are free sluts
>>331317550
>pretending the rest of the stuff on this post except the sprinklers doesn't exist
I acknowledged the rest already. What else do you want?
I do not consider the sprinkler an improvement. Does not change that the rest may be an improvement to some people. These other aspects are not a proof that the sprinkler improves anything.
>>331317552
>quality crops
What does that mean?
>>331316851
(You)
>>331317714
How many of them are actually sluts though
>there's coloured folks
>this is what passes for "games discussion" on /v/
>>331317721
>to some people
So you're just going to take anything positive as being subjective and anything negative as being fact.
>>331301918
Absolute shit combat.
I got to winter and nobody was wearing jackets, or winter hats and scarfs. Nobody was sitting in front of the fireplace sipping hot cocoa. Penny was still at the fucking beach in a skirt.
That is fucking ANTI-Comfy.
Why does the game say "you're not good enough friends with X to enter their bedroom" instead of letting me enter it, only to be screamed out of the room, or the character getting madly upset if they discover you were in there?
>>331316764
[spoilers]FUCK CLINT[/spoilers]
>>331317552
Those are differences, not improvements.
More customizability isn't inherently a good thing. There's a reason why games are made in slick, solid packages. It's trying to be something it isn't, which is a sandbox game.
Next.
>>331318005
>Nobody was sitting in front of the fireplace sipping hot cocoa.
Do people actually do this? It sounds like a generic, 'muh comfy' excuse to like winter.
>>331318038
Because that would take more time to program.
>>331317952
>moving goalposts
I personally don't care too much for customization, and don't consider "more of X" an improvement. But I understand that people want that stuff, which is fine. I'm not the arbiter of what's right.
Quite a few other anons already commented on farm automation being a problem, as it reduces the things to do after an ingame year or two. A large aspect of farm management sims is exactly that, the managing aspect. I'd welcome if these games dared to give you more work than you can handle, forcing you to actually make decisions between work, sleep and social life, as that increases involvement and player agency. You can say that's subjective and opinion, and I'd agree with you.
So, yeah, I do not deny the other things being an improvement, although I may not care. I do deny the sprinkler being an improvement, as it damages key game mechanics. Automation has been largely omitted from previous games in the genre for a reason.
>>331318204
>literally deflecting anything good with the game
>taking anything positive as subjective and anything negative as fact
>>331317390
>only black guy in the game is not only a loving father who is there for his family and daughter but is also a scientist
At least he's not trashy or anything.
>>331318145
I'm pretty sure if he doesn't get fucked then he'll kill himself.
>>331318005
fuckin this uninstalled at that instant
>>331316976
>automation
>improvement
might as well not even play the game anymore
>>331318363
no kidding. It was just my way of giving an example how I consider the game shallow and careless
>>331301949
Just bought that game and after talking to everyone for the first time, I wanted to marry Emily
This game is dead to me now
No robo hitler.
>>331301918
I really want this game... but i cant see how a game like harvest moon will be good for PC.
I mean it might be just me, but i like to play confy games on consoles... you know because confyness.
>>331318612
Well that's undeniable. Game did suffer from a lack of robo hitler.
>>331301918
NO RIVAL MARRIAGES
I want to see NPCs actually doing something with their lives as well
>>331318657
in theory you could hook your pc up to a tv and grab a controller. In practice its controller support is shit
>>331318657
Exactly what is the difference to you between a console and a PC?
It plays with a controller and a m+kb equally well. About half my hours played are on my cheapo $400 touchscreen i3 laptop, sitting on my back porch with a controller.
>>331318469
>remove automation
>have so many crops to water that you pass out or run out of time before you can do anything else
>in a game where there are more tasks to do than in Harvest Moon
Neat
>b-but then don't have a lot of crops
The farming space is designed to allow you to have a large farm if you want. If you aren't allowed to have a large farm because of energy it'd be retarded.
Nothing else in the game is automated. Except hay in the barns and coops, but that doesn't stop you from going to these places in the slightest, as you still need to milk, shear, collect eggs, and gather crops yourself.
>>331301918
It gets boring really fast, games like Rune Factory and Harvest moon are still kinda fun even when you get to year 3 but in Stardew everything kinda falls flat by the end of the 1st year.
Specially with how bullshit bundles are.
>>331318851
>>331318751
Its never the same... sadly.
I like to just turn on myconsole, lazy around on my couch and just chill.
On PC, it feels like i am still at my job
>>331319357
>hook up PC to TV wherever your console is
>have the same experience
>???
I think the "Console Comfort" argument is the most mind-numbing strawman I've seen.
>>331319357
I too, lazy around on my couch and chill, with fullscreen games. Only, I start them by selecting them from the start menu. It works, kind of well, even, because as soon as the game is running, I can't tell it apart from a console game, because anything resembling a computer is off screen, and even out of my sight.
>>331314303
>- The way tools and specifically watering cans power up, it's much better (and cheaper!) to just invest in sprinklers
This is bullshit, sprinklers save you ingame hours of tedious work and they are so efficient that the point of them is making watering automated so you can focus on the animals.
>- move speed is 1/3rd of what it should be
That's why you get a horse
>- fruit trees are weak for their cost. the idea of making your money back in 1 year and a profit in years thereafter is nice on paper but I can just spam blueberries and shit for more money than I can possibly use
Yeah no shit, they are endgame content, a single tree costs almost as much as a coop and they are mostly there to build cute orchards.
Also you can marry Jaswith mods
>>331303556
I'm not high test enough for that.
>>331318340
I do this in front of my computer. I have a Nvidia GPU so it's pretty much the same as a fireplace
>>331319650
>Yeah no shit, they are endgame content, a single tree costs almost as much as a coop and they are mostly there to build cute orchards.
That's exactly the problem I brought up in my post man. They may be end game content but they do not provide end game rewards.
For less investment, you get better returns from regular plants and there is a point where money is pointless because there's very little upkeep costs.
He should take that money, hire an artist and a writer.
Of course he most likely has no experience working in or running a team of people and burn through every last cent he's made.
>>331304079
>Implying
>>331319357
A screen is a screen man, and SDV has good controller support which is how I play it.
Shit, I can stream the game from my desktop TO my TV if I want.
>>331311654
>>331311483
>Bundles
>>331319468
>>331319629
Yeah but i would have to drag my PC to the living room just to play. And return it to my room afterwards.
Its cool if you have a laptop, but on a desktop its just too much work for the working class man, who just wants to get home, sit down and play confy games.
Game needs an expansion that adds a store that you can buy.
It would start decrepit, maybe even have a basement that leads to it's own dungeon with tons of floors.
You'd upgrade and expand the store, fill it with stuff people like, and if people like you they'll be more inclined to buy from you instead of Jojamart.
Then you put Abigail's dad out of business, and buy a second store.
>>331319847
And again, they are mostly there to build cute orchards and to help you do the bundles.
They are not money making machines and it's just small nice passive gold.
>>331320223
>Yeah but i would have to drag my PC to the living room just to play. And return it to my room afterwards.
install your PC where it really belongs, or use a longer HDMI cable and wireless inputs.
>on a desktop its just too much work for the working class man
Just a matter of putting the desktop in the right place
>>331320223
>having to move your desktop back and forth
For what reason at all?
>>331320223
nigger what year are you living in http://store.steampowered.com/streaming/
>>331309368
And the ones that are being made, are made by SJW cucks that force their bullshit into their games.
>Tumblr approved female portraits
>Coal Burning
>Cucking
>No Style
>No Substance
>>331320338
>just small nice passive gold
Good example how the sprinkler kills the mechanics. Trees would be more valuable if they would generate less money but save work. They become useless if other mechanisms save work
>>331320330
ConcernedApe is probably working on addon stuff right now while also trying to compose himself that he's made a couple hundred thousand bucks off his farming game coding exercise
>>331320489
>And the ones that are being made, are made by SJW cucks that force their bullshit into their games.
>Coal Burning
>SJW
The fuck are you dumb 2015 trolls even saying anymore?
>>331310751
yeah but you can't ask the fairies to do your job everyday
>>331301918
It's difficult to find people sometimes.
Generally, if you decide you want to marry a person, it's easy to become acquainted with their daily and weekly schedule.
However, if you are answering one of the random requests posted in your mailbox or the town bulletin, you usually have only 1-2 days to figure out how to obtain the item and how to get it to them. You pretty much have to look at a wiki to figure out where a person is going to be, unless you happen to find them wandering around town.
The movement speed is slow.
I don't see why having slow movement speed is "balancing." Harvest Moon SNES allowed you to run very fast compared to this game, and it did not drain additional stamina.
This is mostly my fault, but I wish the game had emphasized earlier on how important the community center is. I had no idea it was so important for unlocks until my first winter.
>>331320489
this
i'd love if platinum made a farming game. i'm so tired of indies ruining my favorite genres
>>331320521
If you want to make money out of fruits then get fruitbats instead of trees, I already told you, the trees are not meant to be used as a money making tool but rather to make orchards and make the farm pretty. That's why they are the best looking trees with fancy leaves. The money is irrelevant anyway, you can complain about sprinklers all you want but in reality you don't even need them to be rich. The game is not meant to be played with profit in mind, not when OP stuff like beehives exist.
You just make a cute farm and make fucktons of money when you need to, not always.
>>331301918
Devs surrendered to SJWs.
>>331320809
>The movement speed is slow.
>I don't see why having slow movement speed is "balancing." Harvest Moon SNES allowed you to run very fast compared to this game, and it did not drain additional stamina.
Again, that's why you get the horse and it can be greatly improved by drinking coffee as well.
>>331320868
>If you want to make money out of fruits then get fruitbats instead of trees, I already told you
I don't want anything, because the game's an unplayable mess. I thank you though for actually summarizing all its major problems so well
>>331320901
>devs
It's one guy.
>>331320989
The horse can be greatly improved by drinking coffee?
>>331301918
character portraits and horrific combat. other than that it's better than the other farming sim games by far
>>331321132
Yeah, it makes him faster.
>>331321132
The speed stacks
>>331321064
Dev surrendered to SJWs*
>>331321224
>>331321259
That's hilarious.
shit because devs put cuck memes in
So modding is a thing for this game apparently. AntiCucking mod when?
>>331321321
You give a horse like a gallon of coffee, what did you expect dummy.
>>331320989
The horse only brings it up to tolerable speed. Before I modded it, I spent the vast majority of my time walking to the next screen. No engagement, no thinking or gameplay. Just walking.
>>331321406
A dead horse?
>>331321424
>Before I modded it, I spent the vast majority of my time walking to the next screen. No engagement, no thinking or gameplay. Just walking.
The sad thing is that your (and the devs, effectively) solution is to increase the speed of movement, wasting that distance; instead of increasing the things to do on the way
>>331321424
This. It's why I can't stand this game or any of the Harvest Moon/Rune Factory games. I always spent like 70% of the game walking from one place to another.
I don't get why people like this fucking garbage.
>>331320809
Movement speed is ridiculously slow and it takes ages to get the horse, but you could run fast in harvest moon because time flowed much faster than stardew. Just grab the cheat mod that lets you up movespeed and also gives you a warp function. This vastly improved my enjoyment of the game. You can also reduce smelting time, another bullshit mechanic.
>>331321424
To be fair I feel like CA did that on purpose to give a sense of size to the town and the world since it takes you like 30 minutes to go from your house to the mines and otherwise it would take you 30 seconds. The world is really small and you can do a fuckton of stuff if you are faster, making the game really short in return. The problem is the game having nothing inbetween the areas other than a few foraging spots, not the speed itself.
![[polished] Mahoromatic 03 [BD 720p][E7A45C1B].mkv_snapshot_05.10_[2015.09.14_00.45.25].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0TAPTjf.jpg "[polished] Mahoromatic 03 [BD 720p][E7A45C1B].mkv snapshot 05.10 [2015.09.14 00.45.25]")
Jesus, some of you guys are complete shitters.
Now I kind of understand the whole deal those faggots in /vg/ have surrounding minmaxers in these kind of games.
>>331321707
In other words, it's yet another half-arsed and unfinished mechanic
>>331321707
Thank fuck the minecart fast travel bundle is so easy to fulfill.
>>331321845
I have no idea what you're trying to communicate
>>331321707
Oh yeah it was absolutely intended. That was his vision for the game and he is allowed to have one. It's his game afterall.
But I paid for a copy and will deviate from his vision if I think it's a better game. And I do.
>>331321557
I don't see how cramming more things in would really benefit.
>>331321845
You got a bit of a point there. Minmaxing kills these games quite badly. However, when you remove minmaxing from the equation, what's left? What's the saving grace? Any NPC interaction, is shallow as fuck, all minigames are careless and the only justification the game has for them is the collectathon.
>no harem mod
How
>>331301918
It's too bland and soulless to be enjoyable over a long period like Harvest moon is.
It's basicly Harvest moon's Dark souls 2
>>331321978
see also >>331321707
Also "cramming" has a bit of a connotation. The thing is, people consider going from A to B a bit of a waste of time, because it's slow, and there's nothing to do. The second part is the important bit. It does not mean adding more collectathons. Think of mechanics to actually get something out of enjoying the scenery, mechanics that increase the value of meeting NPCs by chance, mechanics to adjust your walking stance, and have it have an impact. Mechanics to dress for the weather, and have the weather affect the way. Randomized events and interactions with the environment, there are so many things to include that are not "cramming", but merely turning filler space into something you look forward to pass through
>>331322261
they're both shit
>muh soul
fuck off. even mineral town had fuckall to do after the first two months. i don't get why you niggers like these half-assed autism simulators
>>331322380
>Doesn't understand abstract concepts
>calls others Autistic
mk.
>>331322513
there's nothing abstract about shitty dialogue, an empty world, and boring, flat characters that do nothing
i'm so glad people are starting to shit on farming games after this came out
>>331303967
http://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/13/?
Other than the niggress and the bachelors, bretty good
>>331301918
it's not harvest moon 64/BtN/FoMT/MFoMT
>>331322704
>people are starting to shit on farming games
They aren't. They're just shitting on SV, for good reasons
>>331322835
>variants are fatter and nu-male
>>331322364
Adding things just wouldn't do anything to make the trip to town take any less time. I'd still be taking the same trip to town but there'd be a bunch of stuff to pass by now.
I think the world design is good, but the move speed is bad. It doesn't need more, it just needs to be quicker to get to.
>>331322850
>it's not harvest moon 64
desu I played HM64 as a kid and I'm grateful. Not only is it incredibly old by todays standards, I wouldn't want a 1:1 copy anyway. That's why I stopped playing HM games. Every new version was the same as the old version.
>>331318421
>only black guy in the game is not only a loving father who is there for his family and daughter but is also a scientist
>At least he's not trashy or anything.
I'm willing to buy into some pretty wacky sci-fi concepts but a black child who knows his own father? Come on.
>>331323050
>Adding things just wouldn't do anything to make the trip to town take any less time
Correct, that's not the purpose
>I'd still be taking the same trip to town
Possibly less often, to offset the time it takes
>I think the world design is good, but the move speed is bad
We disagree
Bitches and whores.
>>331303556
fuck it I wouldn't marry her if she looked like that
>>331301918
Girls are all ugly as sin.
Best Harvest Moon game is Rune Factory Frontier with the Runey patch. Prove me wrong.
>>331323238
Well then you're not talking about JUST adding more things to see and to do, you're talking about a total redesign.
I'm content with the design. I just want it to be quicker to get from A to B. And thankfully, this is finally a HM game on PC so I can easily do that.
>>331322850
those are all shit
>>331323514
>I just want it to be quicker to get from A to B
Yeah, I consider the concept of wanted to quickly anything in such a game to be flawed.
And actually, we do both agree that the move speed is bad. Only, I'd like it slower. I used the walking primarily on the brief test play I had with it. The lack of penalty for running is annoying.
Why should I play this if I already own the original HM and Friends of Mineral Town?
Does this go above and beyond what either of those games did? Does it have the same kind of strange mystery to it, when you discover the wealth of secrets you can completely miss and still beat the game?
>>331316452
>Not spreading your lightning rods out so your crops don't die in a storm
>>331310416
>he's not even trying in their marriage, i raged at those events.
So, black man simulator 2016? He will hit it then run for it once she get pregnant with a half breed monstrosity?
Most of the shit you unlock is pretty useless and underwhelming. The desert is probably the most substantial one with a shop, casino, and dungeon.
Unlock panning and the quarry were a fucking joke though. Greenhouse was nice I guess the best one was minecart but the location could have been better.
Combat was mediocre.
8bit graphics. I hate em
>>331323697
Maybe.
The game gets old quickly, just like with the old Harvest Moon games, though there's a few more things to do. Fishing is fun enough.
I'd say it's worth a pirate and nothing more.
I see sales of this meme game have finally started slowing. It won't reach a million without discounting.
I'm sure the dev will be happy with earning $5m+ (after fees etc) from it though
>>331323837
The quarry is fine but panning was a complete joke.
>8 bit graphics
thats not 8 bit
>>331323837
>8bit graphics. I hate em
off-topic. The graphics in that thing are all over the place, and stay well ahead of 8-bit limitations
>>331301918
Dialogue isn't interesting.
It does not have husky girls.
can anyone post a pic of all the waifus?
its going to be the deal breaker if im going to play this or not.
>>331323801
cept he's taking care of his stepchild and real child
>>331324074
delete this
>>331323837
Besides from obviously aping famous 16-bit looks rather than 8-bit, it also does a lot of things that most of the 16-bit systems would dislike having had to deal with.
>>331324189
Just google it. 5 seconds.
>>331314303
>>331319650
Everyone likes the fruit that comes off trees, I see them less as ways to make money and more as easy present generators.
Plus fruit trees are cute af
>>331324074
sauce
>>331304602
>The girl I want is married to a black science guy
Mod that allows you to give her the D when
>>331323801
>So, black man simulator 2016? He will hit it then run for it once she get pregnant with a half breed monstrosity?
Too late for that.
>>331301918
Portraits are shit tßh, although there are some mods that change it to make it tolerable
>>331301918
It's great, but there should be lots more throwaway dialogue for every character to make interacting less repetitive, the kart arcade game is trash, you can't date some of the best characters like Emily, the fisherman, or Jas, and after marrying Abigail she seems like a totally different person. Ducks that I can't play the western game with her any time I want, and I can't drag her along when I go out or give her gear to help her be an adventurer.
And there should be a catalog system like Animal Crossing, getting furniture and wallpaper and shit is tedious.
>>331301918
>ebin retro 2D indie grafics xD
So are there any girls in this game who won't cuck you with Sam?
>>331324074
go on...
>>331324927
Haley doesn't cuck you with Sam.She cucks you with Alex instead
>>331314303
just plant the trees in the hothouse
enjoy infinite fruits all year long
>>331303697
Nah, she works best as pale, petite thin, and fragile. Like an asocial lamb.
>>331315557
radicall larry?
>>331301918
I haven't played it but the player sprites really bother me from the trailers I've seen. Standing still is fine but they look like they have a shuffling similar to Terraria or however it's spelled.
I'm not sure how noticeable it is when actually playing it but the animation just looks kind of cheap.
>>331324646
Mushrooms are more rare though.
>Everyone complaining about the game being too slow or taking forever to go from A to B
>Game features a horse that doubles your speed, boots that make you go faster, consumables that increase your movement speed, minecarts to move around town and even easy to craft warp totems.
wew lad, might as well just /tp everywhere with the cheat mod.
Why have you had the office drone job to begin with? You swapped one repetitive dayjob for another. Why didn't you know about the farm before that letter? Why didn't you work on that farm earlier. Grandpa just bought it and kicked the bucket or what?
>>331324998
Alex is overcompensating for his homosexuality though.
>>331301918
-shit character design, samefaces
-shit level design, throw houses at random places, et fuck up the screen by putting clutter everywhere, because he doesn't know how to make a clean yet full map
-character way too slow
-best characters can't be romanced
-next to no interaction with other characters (oh you can give them 2 gifts per week, neat)
-no feeling to be in the country
-music that bugs out sometimes
-no ambiant sounds (in a game supposed to take place in the country, bravo)
-can't play with your pet
-you're always, ALWAYS rushing because it takes 10 minutes to walk 5 meters
-next to no activities, except watering plants
>>331303556
>making her a lardass even though she spends most of her schedule walking around the valley
>and practices swordsmanship, which is far more physical activity than any of the other bachelor(ette)s (except Alex) ever do
>people call this "accurate" and "more realistic"
Are you the same faggot who keeps trying to force his fetish in the vg general?
>>331325732
You forgot to complain about the energy system but other than that, good job on the meme list.
>tfw black man was the first "friend" my character had in the entire town
>mfw reading these threads
he's always busy doing his science shit and hooked it up with that fruit cave. He's cool.
>>331303279
did someone say minerals
>>331325876
She eats a lot.
>>331325732
>next to no activities, except watering plants
There's a ton of shit to do compared to harvest moon which is what this game tries to improve on.
>fishing that's actually fun
>mining
>faux-dungeon running
I agree with the rest though
>>331326004
Man, who cares, it's just hip to be racist on /pol/ and /pol/ culture leaks out everywhere else like nuclear waste
>>331326129
>>mining
This was in Harvest Moon. It's better yes, but that's your other point.
My biggest problem with the game is the fact that the dev removed whole Butchering animal process because some vegan fucks were triggered by it.
Fun note, it was basically fully ready to be implemeted into the game.
>>331326129
for me, fishing is just gathering underwater crops
and mining is gathering rock crops
I just want to chill by sitting outside while chatting with some characters, stargazing thanks to the observatory, play some games with other characters, teach he curious children, hearing some lectures about the rocks I gave to gunther
even side jobs other than killing slimes
>>331326129
>Best characters can't be romanced
Leah and Emily fags are idiots.
Haley and Sebastian are really cool and nice characters but no, you want the WACKY borderline autistic blue haired bitch and the 40something married woman with a complete family.
This is not like Rune factory where Shinobu and Hazel were widowed or divorced and had awesome portraits, that's the reason why Leah and Emily fags feel like memers just trying to perpetuate the I CAN'T MARRY BEST GIRL IN HM GAMES! meme.
wheres the promised multiplayer
>>331326490
It was a buggy mess that had to be taken out to get the game out earlier. It'll get re-added when CA gets around to fixing it.
>>331326432
Then go tell CA, he's still implementing shit and some of those sound like really good events.
You do play games with Abby though.
>>331326057
Well, shucks, mineral bro replied to my post
>>331326090
And your evidence of this is what, the response for giving her a "liked" gift?
Are you legitimately retarded?
>>331326602
>games
>plural
>>331326639
It was a joke man, chill.
What if she got fat trying to lose weight?
>>331301918
Fun and relaxing, very comfy to play. The only flaw is that its pixelshit.
>>331326606
I doubt that's him, he types in all caps
>>331325987
Fuck off shitposter.
>>331326463
my problem with this is that everything is on rails
your character won't even try to seduce them
yes it sounds stupid, but it would be a good thing, that would make a subject, they would say why you should drop the subject, instead you just stay away for no reason
>>331326772
>It was a joke man, chill.
merely_pretending.png
>What if she got fat trying to lose weight?
If anything she'd get fat after marrying and moving into your house since she only goes outside to stand in the porch and occasionally repair a fence, water a crop, or feed the animals which are probably being fed automatically anyway.
Can't have multiple wives.
I want to ntr everyone on the island.
>>331327039
>merely_pretending.png
Jesus, can't make a joke anymore without upsetting someone.
>>331326602
Once and never again, for only one level of one game
Sigh
Not enough lewd mods
>>331327230
jokes are supposed to be funny
a blatant lie is not a joke
>>331327294
>wanting pixel lewds
Seconded
>>331326158
I've been sick and tired of token nigs and multikult in everything since SA days. For many of us, all /pol/ has done is made it safer for us to be honest about our feelings.
>>331327398
It's funny because she eats everything you give to her. You just seem upset because someone made a hilarious portrait.
>>331327439
I third this notion.
>pic related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoDb1QCZyXw
>>331326463
but you can romance leah. So what?
>>331315859
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA WHAT?
Why do people let developers get away with this god-awful amateur pixel art? This was exactly the same thing that turned me off Terraria, I've seen RPGMaker games with better art than this shit.
I know who I'm marrying.
>>331328051
because HM clones with better graphics aren't made? People know it's shit, but crave their doses of mindnumbing entertainment. In a pinch, anything, including shit graphics, will do
>>331328051
pixel art is easy as shit to make, so it lowers costs for art, allowing games to be sold for less making people buy it
>>331326580
aka
NEVER
EVER
>>331328373
Are you honestly suggesting this thing is "sold for less"?
>>331327556
>It's funny because she eats everything you give to her.
That's wrong though, only items she likes.
And even then, gems are not a good source of calories.
>You just seem upset because someone made a hilarious portrait.
Nice "u mad" post. Is that how you're convincing yourself you're not a meme-spouting retard? A bit dated to be a coping mechanism, don't you think?
>>331317196
Clint isn't gonna get the girl.
>>331328542
its $15. i wouldn't buy it for more than $40
>>331328306
If only this were real
>>331329153
That's $10 more than it has any reason to be. It's just milking on a lower level
>>331302130
what does stone have to do with getting to floor 100 of the second mine
>>331329464
99 stone = 1 crafted staircase
>mfw the only black guy in town is a literal cuck who takes care of his wife's son
>>331329464
sounds like a crappy dungeon crawler hiding in a crappy farm simulator. To any game devs reading: That's not genre crossing, that's just being unfocused
>>331329464
Making stairs, duh.
>>331329737
What, his wife is unfaithful?
>>331328373
>>331328346
I suppose what bothers me more than anything is that if they really wanted pixel art, they could just hire someone who actually knows what they're doing. There's thousands of phenomenally talented artists on places like pixeljoint who would work for peanuts if asked nicely.
The way they instead choose to go about it just comes off like an excuse to be lazy and indulge their auteur fantasies.
>>331329954
The wife had the emo neet faggot with another man before meeting the black scientist and having the grrl scientist daughter with him.
>>331301918
shitty graphics
shitty waifus
below average gameplay
literally trash
/v/ has always been wrong
>>331329954
Son's from a previous marriage
The meaning of 'cuck' went out of the window once people decided that the word was inherently funny
>>331330113
>if they really wanted pixel art
They didn't. The game is using several different and incoherent resolutions, rotating objects around. Pixel assets were merely means, not a goal.
>they could just hire
Or they do it on their own, pay less, and still make money on the desperate. Good game development is not economic.
>off like an excuse to be lazy and indulge their auteur fantasies.
Not much of an excuse even, they know it's shit. They don't care, it sells.
>>331330150
So you didn't mean "literal cuck" to be taken literally? Kek, you figurative retard.
>>331330113
Was literally made by one dude to test his game making skills out. Its legitimately a good game, one person team aside.
>>331328668
>>331329165
It is dummy.
>>331329737
>>331329954
He's just a meme spouting retard, ignore him.
There is a person in town who was literally cucked but that's a spoiler.
>>331330845
>just a meme spouting retard
Welcome to /v/
>literally cucked
see?
There is a black guy sneaking around in town. Makes me a bit uneasy and unsettles the comfy a little since I need to watch my back, but other than that the game is 9/10
>>331331007
>he doesn't know
Just like her Dad
>>331301918
I recently played Recettear and fell in love with this style of gameplay, can I do it in this game? are there any more games that allow you to manage a shop or play the market? I know some MMOs allow you to play with the trading post so feel free to recommend those if you want, same goes for strategy games that make you manage resources in a meaningful and economically tight manner for profit, maybe you can recommend me something nice?
>>331331535
no
no
ultima online and eve have the best player driven economies out of MMOs
no idea but I want more recettear too, preferrably without the awful dungeon gameplay.
>>331331535
you could do that in real life, you know, for actual profits
>>331331979
yeah because building a business in a few hours or days is exactly the same as 10 years of your life.
>>331332165
yeah and it even makes you actually rich and not some broke turbo autist with inflated ego
>>331331815
>awful dungeon gameplay
I thought the dungeon crawling was alright. Not great, but not awful. The drop rates for some items is a nightmare though. Just refining the dungeon controls would make it infinitely better.
>>331330348
Raising another man's child is essentially the definition of cuckoldry from Nature's point of view.
>>331332770
If you don't know how civilized society works, sure. Go back to the jungle, chimp.
>>331301949
>merry my dick in her
>>331332770
A cuckold is a man with a wife that is fucking other dudes on the side, possibly with permission, like with Anthony "Open Relationship" Burch.
By your logic, a man who adopts and raises an orphan is a cuckold.
>>331318453
I will, it's true, I really gotta get laid guys. Please just let me have this, I swear that golden watering can will be useful...
>>331333302
Cuckoldry means unwittingly raising someone else's offspring. A man who adopts and raises an orphan is not a cuckold, but a man who thinks his wife's son is his is.
>>331302679
To be fair, Harvestmoon died ages ago. This just fills the niche that no other title would
>>331333545
So if my wife commits suicide and im raising my kid and start dating a black woman. is that reverse cuckoldry?
>>331333715
I think Cuckoldry only aplis to men. so no
>>331333048
You're seriously implying that loose families and a lack of strict patrimony is the definition of "civilized society"? What planet do you live on?
>>331333545
But that is wrong.
None of the dictionaries I am looking through define cuckold as anything more than a man with an unfaithful wife.
The state of being a cuckold has nothing to do with children at all.
>>331332770
Cuckoldry wasn't a thing "in nature". For the vast majority of human history you had tribes with a few dozen men and women who just fucked each other at random and the women raised the kids. Men wouldn't be responsible for raising specific children.
>>331302679
its just nintendo title on pc. those nintendo executives are ignoring lots of money not publishing for steam
>>331302679
>2d
not a flaw
>indie
not a flaw
>pixel
not a flaw
>copied gameplay from another series
not a flaw since every game does this
>nothing new and innovative about it
same can be said for 90% of the game industry
>>331334010
>But that is wrong.
>None of the dictionaries I am looking through define cuckold as anything more than a man with an unfaithful wife.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckold#Theories_in_evolutionary_biology_and_psychology
In evolutionary biology, the term cuckold is also applied to males who are unwittingly investing parental effort in offspring that are not genetically their own. As noted above, the term cuckold is derivative of the mis-directed parental investment of birds who direct parental investment to the eggs that cuckoo birds have laid in their nests.[1]
>>331334369
>>2d
>not a flaw
>>indie
>not a flaw
>>pixel
>not a flaw
It's the combination of the statement that makes it shit you dip.
>>331334369
Wow, how does this guy's balls taste in your mouth, faggot? Jesus I cringed reading this.
Keeps crashing. Jobs will spawn at inappropriate seasons. Iron ore is nowhere to be found. Foraging spawns too few and far between. Some of the fish are basically impossible to catch unless you're lucky. The mines are a sorry excuse for additional gameplay. You're given no insight on how to use or find more than half of the game's items and features. Of course the running speed. Time passes by ungodly fast. I get it. Farmers always say they wish there were more hours in the day, but holy fuck my dick does the time fly when you're just running somewhere. It shouldn't take two fucking hours just to run around town. What my dick?
>>331301918
Harvest Moon games suck and this is just a soulless attempt to cash in on people's love of it.
>>331334449
>2d indie pixelshit
not a flaw and never was
>>331334510
not a flaw
>>331331979
>he thinks video games are real life
Fucks sake, go outside sometimes.
>>331334919
>not a flaw and never was
Something that's shit can't be anything but a flaw you retard.
>>331335015
you have yet to explain how it's shit, parrot.
>>331334564
>Jobs will spawn at inappropriate seasons.
Do you not save anything from previous seasons?
>Iron ore is nowhere to be found.
Are you even looking in the right place? You can be swimming in it in the ice levels of the Mines.
>Some of the fish are basically impossible to catch unless you're lucky.
Fishing is literally the definition of git gud. You level your skill up, buy better rods and use buffs to be able to catch things easily. You also have to learn by exposure to the increasing fish difficulty speeds to be used to the higher level ones.
>>331335080
Why do I have to? Nobody asked, and I'm not even the original guy that said it. I just said that 2d indie pixelshit is a flaw, and it is.
>>331335223
Explain how it's a flaw. There's literally nothing wrong with something being 2D, having pixel graphics, or being indie because it has nothing to do with the quality of the art itself.
Keep on parroting this "everything that isn't 3D is garbage" maymay ;^)
>>331327294
I want a pixel blowjob in the bed every morning.
>>331335386
2d pixel indieshit isn't a flaw, its a marker for potential flaws. There's nothing wrong with any of those things, but a lot of things that have all of the above are shit.
Being a flaw and being an indicator for potential flaws is not the same thing.
>>331335386
>Explain how it's a flaw.
Okay. Shitty graphics make people not want to look at the game, it makes people not immersed. There are probably different reasons as well for shitty graphics being a flaw. All of these apply to 2D indie pixelshit because that's a broad term for shitty graphics in a particular style.
>There's literally nothing wrong with something being 2D, having pixel graphics, or being indie because it has nothing to do with the quality of the art itself.
Refer to >>331334449
>It's the combination of the statement that makes it shit you dip.
2D indie pixel graphics can be good. By definition though, 2D indie pixelshit is shit, it's in the name.
>>331334418
Yes, the name is derived from the behaviors of animals, but I was under the impression we were talking about the term as it applies to humans.
>>331335386
2d and pixel shit are not mutually exclusive. We evolved from the look of nes/snes graphics and get things like guilty gear. Indie devs are fucking lazy and don't want to put the effort into making things look good and use the whole "retro" look as an art direction, not a mask for their lack of talent.
>>331335937
>1 guy working on a game in his spare time
>expecting graphical fidelity comparable to a full studio with infinitely more resources+manpower
ok bub
>>331333452
PLEASE UPGRADE YOUR TOOLS
>>331326772
>>331327230
>joking about waifus
you're deliberately trying to hurt yourself - you know how territorial males can get in this board
What the fuck do i do now that it's winter?
>>331336118
Ultimately the problem lies in the consumers willing to buy this shit. Other indie devs get away with it, so this guy figured he can too. I simply think its a shame that there are so few 2d games that look more like 32 bit era and onward.
-No endgame content
-Poor income balance
-Animals suck dick compared to crops
-Dialogue is mediocre and encouraged to win NPC's hearts by throwing gifts at them
-Marriage sucks
The game isn't bad, it's just incomplete.
>>331336118
ripping off an existing game must be so hard
>>331336906
what's there suggests though the dev does not understand it enough to fix it, or "complete" it
>>331337085
Yes, it kind of is. Ideas are a dime a dozen and not worth much. There's a lot of work in developing the engine, assembling the assets, etc.
That said, I do not defend the utter lack of creativity on the side of the developer. I'm just trying to put the sweat part of the job in perspective
>>331337360
>make a dozen shitty sprites and assets
>done
Wew lad, sure is hard up in this bitch.
The game is a 100% ripoff. there isnt a single original thing in there. a fucking monkey could do this in RPG maker, and it took this moron 4 years.
>>331336906
That's all harvest moon/Rune factory game ever.
>>331337908
>make a dozen shitty sprites and assets
No, that's the simple but time consuming part. You need the engine to put them in, implement the mechanics.
>a fucking monkey could do this in RPG maker
RPG maker includes an engine. This one had its engine written
