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>>331281179
wish they actually went the zombie route and we had more enemies than hood thugs.
>>331281179
Incredibly dull and poorly thought out game.
Same as Y1 Destiny
>rush to endgame
>no endgame
better loot system imo, similar to how diablo works. Every rioter seems to be black and holds their pistol sideways.
>>331281367
>>rush to endgame
why?
>>331281278
I'm glad there's finally a loot-based game that isn't based off mythical stuff. This was the exact setting I've wanted for a while now, a current setting loot-based game. I'm liking it so far and can't wait to see the end-game builds and items. The only problem I have with this game is that there doesn't seem to be a strong end-game. There's no raids, exciting bosses (that aren't bosses that have some special move or anything).
Overall though, it's not a bad game. I'd say somewhere along a 7.
Buggy ass shit that even Ubisoft tech support admits is broken with no patches to fix them in the forseeable future
>>331281179
grind fest, black thug murder simulator, literally no end game, whole PvP gimmick is brokenoverall pretty fun
Fun game with potential that is suffering because of severe lack of end game content and the train wreck that is the Dark Zone. I've put in 50 hours, I had my fun, but at this point I really only log on to do my dailies and then I log off, but I haven't even done that in two days. I'm just waiting for whatever they have planned on releasing this week, as well as the content patch next month. It's just Destiny all over again. Content dry and repetitive for the people who powered to end game, now we have to wait for the game to get updated to actually be good. Hopefully I haven't lost interest by then.
>>331281550
>even Ubisoft tech support admits is broken
SOURCE?
>all those collectables
>the 100%ist in me has to have all the trophies
fuck
>>331281696
The chat I had earlier with them when I opened up a bug ticket on the support site.
Fun co-op game, but with shitty PvP
If you plan on playing solo or for the Dark Zone then stay away. Otherwise it's a decent loot-and-shoot game when played with friends but a missed opportunity otherwise. It's basically wasted potential: the game.
>>331281490
to be fair it only consists of reaching lvl 30
>>331281524
I agree with the setting, but my problem is how long before a snowy Manhattan area becomes dull? They will have to venture out beyond New York and have different seasons. All snow all the time is going to get old.
>>331281970
Like most ubisoft games
>Not opening up with at least one incursion at release.
>No actual incentive to go Rogue in DZ, making it just ever more grinding.
>No missions set in the DZ where several groups of agents take on mutally exclusive goals.
>Gun and gear variety is just as boring as expected.
>How come this bloke in a hoodie won't go down after several shotgun blasts to the face?
It's moving along, but damned if it didn't punch itself in the face when it launched the way it did.
>>331281179
Game of the century 11/10
Absolutely amazing
>Diverse detailed world
>Memorable characters
>Amazing voice acting
>Phenomenal loot system with exciting combinations
>Top tier sound design
>Visceral gameplay
>Tight shooting mechanics
LITERAL and FIGURATIVE best game ever made quality
>>331282219
My issue with the incursion thing is nobody knows what the fuck it even is. Unless I have missed an announcement somewhere, as far as I'm aware, we have almost no details on what we are doing in these incursions.
>>331282337
>>Memorable characters
>>Amazing voice acting
>>Tight shooting mechanics
>>331282504
McFucking kill yourself you redditor.
>>331282371
calling it now:pvp where we side with keener
>>331281762
but the collectibles give us the only decent writing in the game
>>331282607
The fuck did you call me you dumb nigger piece of shit I will fucking knuckle smash your dick hole you waste of breath cuck fuck boi piece of trash
>>331282607
You have to set the hook before trying to real in dude. Your bait is too weak
>>331282337
is it opposite day?
>>331281632
>but at this point I really only log on to do my dailies and then I log off
This sounds just like Destiny. Fuck.
>>331282759
It's ree---- oh I see what you did there you sneaky fuck.
>>331281179
Got it
>Bullet sponge bad guys
>Easy matchmaking, never hard to find people
>Missions are actually breddy good with 4 people
>There are few missions that are this fun, rest are shitty quick ones
>my files main quest is glitched to tell me to do some tutorial step and im level 15
>can kill dogs, cant kill peds
>havent even played around with the "DARKZONE" for more than 5 minutes because its probably a shit
>no items matter, only clothing items do.
>>331281490
its just how people react to a loot treadmill and a progression system. all that drives a game like this is that, nobody plays it for the story
>>331282751
>>331282759
Disinformation shitposting is a ban-able offense.
>>331283062
[citation needed]
>>331283062
Everyone on v would be banned then you liar.
>>331281179
Downgrade. That's it. I just don't understand why you people keep buying Ubisoft games, when they are always not what the company advertise them to be before their release.
By buying downgraded games, you
stupidly agree with this false advertising.
>Cleaner missions
Fuck everything about Cleaners.
Fuck Shields
Fuck Flamethrowers
Fuck mega Flamethrowers
Fuck napalm grenades
Fuck gas grenades
It's what Nether should have been at release, except this game is third person and there are no mutated creatures. I like it, but fuck me if the Dark Zone is not meticulous as shit. People with high ranked gear camp the low tier places. Even if you are at level 30 and DZ 30 you're still fucked if you go past the 3rd out of 6 section of the zone. Farm this farm that. I just want more of the story, but y'know, DLC plans.I hate myself for buying the season pass today, but I have high hopes that the add ons will add much more sustainable content than Destiny did.House of Wolves is better than Taken King. Fite me nigger.
>>331282337
>Phenomenal loot system
>Visceral gameplay
>Tight shooting mechanic
this is a bait.
>>331283545
>behind cover
>cleaner AI charges with shotgun because AI cant into tacticool
>empty magazine, he's still alive
>out comes the flamethrower
>burn to death behind coverREEEEEEEE
Really repetitive and honestly a grind most of the time. I spend all this time getting all the base wing upgrades and nothing happens, so it feels absent of any real reward. Also, you really hit a wall as soon as you run out of missions because encounters and Dark Zone PvP are pretty fucking boring. The only thing I'm playing for at this point islooting accessories so I can play dress up with my virtual avatar like the autistic little girl I am.
I will say this, I went into it expecting absolutely nothing and came out of it pleasantly surprised. Also, my roommate fucking sucks at it (~20 hours and still level 14 lol).
Overall, 6/10. Mediocre, but as addictive as any other MMO.
>>331283606
>House of Wolves is better than Taken King
its because it made the old shit relevant again while taken king made it irrelevant yet again 5 months later
I would be surprised if ubisoft doesnt raise the level cap and loot quality and make previous dlc irrelevant just the same
>>331283740
>I've never played the game I'm criticizing
Kill yourself 9gagfag
>>331283749
Worse yet:
>Running medical mission
>Final boss battle spawns 5 Shields.
>They all charge at one player.
>Constantly getting hammered by gunfire while trying to get behind their fucking shield.
>Die while rolling away from one's axe into another's
How do I charge for the endgame /v/, I want to be done with this fucking game
>>331283859
The melee in this game is fucking dogshit
>>331283009
I wanted to play it for story, got it a few days later than friends.
They all ground to lvl 30 as soon as they could, then ran through dark zone and ground that too.
I start playing and am digging the setting, the isolation, picking things up, i like stalking through the abandoned city. Exploring, picking up the phones and listening to the chaos.
Friends join my game.
"we'll run you through the levels, we'll replay them on hard to grind you faster"
a few hours of me getting 1 shot by every enemy, not being able to kill anything. Story is fucking ruined.
My gear is constantly getting replaced, every mission, new stuff, I'm not even paying attention to stats anymore. Finally i'm level 30. "Okay cool now what do i do?"
"Now you can grind gear with us"
: (
>>331283946
I'm sorry Anon, but your friends arenormal, you're autistic
>>331283845
>YOU NEVER EVEN PLAYED IT
Fanboy defense #241
>>331281179
It is the most unjustifiably successful piece of shit Ubisoft has ever released
And its one of the worst games Ubisoft has ever made
>>331281179
blandest bland that ever blanded
>>331283946
>I wanted to play it for story
You picked arguably the worst game to play then. I'll admit the setting is handled quite well but the actual story and writing/acting is a fucking joke even by video game standards
>>331284038
You very obviously haven't you fucking newfag.
>>331283946
the standard for content is just too high for this game and destiny to keep up
thats why destiny was dead for a month or two right before the each expansion.
same thing with this game. Ubisoft won't be able to release enough content to keep up with the ability people can grind. they can blast through a dlc in about 3 weeks and then the game will die until the next dlc
>>331284185
>game had an open beta of 6 million players
>B-BUT YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVEN'T PLAYED IT NEWFAG
wew lad
>>331281179
literally who cares
literally no waifus
>>331284485
>beta
Yes, that's a beta, not one of the single greatest games ever made in entirety.
>>331284036
>>331284146
Fuck you guys
(But yeah i get it the story is fucking rubbish, The beginning had suspense and mystery, when you first meet the cleaners.)
I was drawn into the setting.
>>331284542
>not playing as your own operatorfu
faggot
>>331284607
There is like 8 faces that are all ugly as sin and all the outfits look exactly the fucking same.
>>331284607
>having to create your own waifu
what's the point
>>331284573
>IT'S JUST A BETA
Top kek
>>331284696
The last response of a defeated shitstain.
Don't respond to me if you're not even going to attempt to actually refute any point in my original post.
>>331281696
I was actually just reading about some issues like this. Basically, when crafting a new back pack if you immediately go into group play (going into another instance) the game can glitch hard if you have to much in your inventory.
And by glitch hard I mean not even be able to log in.
They have literally said it'll be a month at least till they can fix it. They don't apparently have a tool to go into players accounts, hence the wait time. Affects all platforms. Source is ubiforums if you wanna go look.
>can shoot dead dogs in the street
>can't do anything to civilians. at all
B R A V O
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>>331284734
>The last response of a defeated shitstain.
Actually that would be
"You very obviously haven't played it you fucking newfag."
and
"That's a beta"
You have no point worth refuting. You made bullshit claims and then resorted to ad hominem and fanboy-tier damage control arguments when you got called out on it.
Please respond some more so I can wreck you even harder.
>>331282371
They appear to be raids. I saw some speculation that they were 8 man group content. But that's based off of old vids.
Bottom right of the map shows where the first will be. Ubi has hinted at content drop next week. Could be it.
>>331284847
>Walk past NPC
>"I THOUGHT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO HELP US!"
>Unload on him
>Just runs away
>>331284848
Supreme delusion.
Having not actually played the full software immediately negates any argument you have, if you even bothered to stop being an aspie and constructed something to actually respond to what I said. You even immediately responded with an attack on character.
Your retarded high-horse bravado makes it all the more hilarious.
>>331285109
>playing with a group
>see dog
>kill it
>"WHAT THE FUCK ANON"
>kicked
>mfw
>>331284848
Not the original anon you were arguing with, but those are all marketing buzz words anyway. What the fuck is visceral gameplay and why have I only heard marketers mention it?
The gunplay is alright though.
>>331285219
>no argument
>IT'S JUST A BETA damage control
>complains about an attack on character
>immediately responsts with character attacks and high-horse bravado
This is rich
>>331285380
Pic related is what you're equating to.
>>331285469
Pic related is what you're equating to.
>>331285540
See >>331282337
Give reasons as to why I'm wrong.
You've run in circles for night 40 minutes now and said nothing.
>>331285602
Give reasons as to why
>You haven't even played it
and
>The beta doesn't count
are valid arguments
You've run in circles for 40 minutes now and said nothing.
>>331285380
You're being retardeded than usual. You know what I mean. Knock it off.
>>331285469
Why respond? You just stooped to his level with this post.
>>331285602
>>331285672
can you two spergs just fuck off?
literally no one cares
>>331285693
>You're being retardeded than usual
You even immediately responded with an attack on character. Nice one.
>>331281179
already flopping like a fish its Evolve all over again
check back in a week and itll only have sub 100 players
DLC/season pass garbage
>>331285672
Give reasons based on what you experienced in the beta then?
I stated that you haven't played it simply because you never gave any information in the first place, which is an immediate sign that someone is just shitposting for the sake of it.
>>331285219
>Having not actually played the full software immediately negates any argument you have,
Ad hominem.
By the same logic Having paid for the full software immediately negates any critiicsm you have, since it makes you hypocrite. Remember "don't like it don't buy it", "vote with your wallet".
>>331281179
A poor man TPS. An average ARPG.
>>331285740
It's not hard to tell that you're socially retarded a la autistic spectrum disorder. Fuck outta here bro.
>>331281762
>Upgrade Security wing
>buy Canine Unit
>Intel Discovery perk
Fuck man, can't even move on with the story cause of all these collectables. At least the map leads you right to them.
>>331285796
Oh look another character attack. Your retarded high-horse hypocrisy makes it all the more hilarious.
>>331285785
I didn't buy it, I got it for free with my GPU so I don't have an obligation or bias for trying to justify a purchase.
>>331285857
http://psychcentral.com/quizzes/autism.htm
While we're at it, take this too. http://www.alexithymia.us/info_Alexithymia-Description_14.html
>>331285882
So basically only people who got it for free bundled with their GPU are allowed judgement. Got it.
>>331285837
>find a missing agent collectable
>1/10
FUCK
Someone save me from myself
>>331285943
I only gave that as my situation because you assume all people will be bias because of justification of purchase.
However ignorance of any first hand experience with a game does make your point invalid.
>>331285758
Flopping? Biggest new title in history and it's flopping? Genius observation. How will it lose millions of players in a week?
>>331285765
You stated that I haven't played it simply because you have nothing to back up your original post so you resorted to personal attacks when called out. It's typical fanboy rhetoric which is an immediate sign that someone is just shitposting for the sake of it.
You never gave any information to back up your original claims in the first place. Just spewing buzzwords like "Visceral gameplay" and "Phenomenal loot system with exciting combinations" doesn't make them substantiated arguments with merit. Shouting PROVE ME WRONG doesn't change that.
>>331285348
No it's not. It's boring and the sound design is absolutely shit. You can't make visceral gameplay or good gunplay in a game with braindead bulletsponge enemies. It's just stats. And it's fine for a ARPG but not for a TPS.
It's a casual game for casuals, the same as all ubisoft games. Whether you like it depends on whether you like playing mediocre mechanics long after they've stopped being novel.
>>331285924
The fact that you're familiar with those sites says a lot more about you than it does about me. Nice projection though.
The saving grace for me is the story, and that's just from the collectibles.
It's refreshing to not have an apocalypse from zombies or nukes but from a very real scenario like a pandemic, and getting to see the results and how civilization degrades and we all turn on each other.
I'll probably stop playing once I complete all missions and find all the collectibles though, I'm not interested in grinding through the DZ, just like I was with Destiny, though the story wasn't nearly as good so I never bothered finishing that game.
This game makes me wish for a sequel set in the same universe but without all that MMO shit, just a greatly expanded single player experience.
>>331286115
The burden of proof is on you.
You disagreed with the opinion but never said anything to substantiate why.
Your loophole shit isn't working.
>>331285796
>>331285740
>>331282337
Geeze. I'll argue the fucking points if you guys stop circle jerking.
>diverse detailed world
No. It's not diverse. It can be detailed but you don't notice it because there's piles of garbage everywhere.
>memorable characters
There are only a few characters, none of which are memorable, fleshed out, dynamic, etc. The jtf hub people are memorable, but for all the wrong reasons.
>amazing voice acting
No. Not terrible. Not good. It's just kind of there. Also, silent protagonist is stupid/20 years ago.
>phenomenal loot etc.
No. It's okay though. The modding is pretty decent at first glance, but it really all devolves into what has best stats.
>sound design
This is actually good.
>buzzwords
Gameplay is okay
>shooting mechanics
I guess? They aren't bad anyway. At least they all have unique patterns. An ak47 fires in a way unique to that particular rifle.
Probably 30 hours logged. 7/10
>>331286045
I didn't assume anything. Post purchase rationalization is a real thing, and I was only citing previous /v/ threads where criticism was invalidated based on purchase of the game.
My point is still valid as you have yet to refute it. Ad hominem does not an argument make, and you don't get to arbitrarily decide that anyone who played the beta doesn't have a valid opinion.
>>331286276
All wrong.
>>331286115
My god, you're still here? I'll be disappointed if the guy you're talking to is NT in terms of no ASD or OCD (or maybe even a personality disorder), but god damn man, stop resorting to sub 75 IQ posting in an elaborate attempt to ruse. The only ones you ruse are those who share similar qualities to yourself; ruse meaning that the person who reads your posts will linger on the fact that they bother them. Improve yourself at once or I shall be forced to taunt you yet again.Yes, now you can say damage control. Congrats. :)
>>331281278
>we had more enemies than hood thugs
but we have more
have you even played it past level 5
>>331286375
Turn the projection down or you'll burn a lightbulb kiddo.
>>331286187
I'm a psychology major and psychological disorders happens to be one of my main interests.
>>331286473
>he's an actual armchair psychologist
Oh my fuck
>>331286116
But the enemies aren't brain dead bullet sponges? They all have specific behavior patterns based off their class. Some rush you, some set up defenses, others sit back and snipe.
Sponges are only there is you aren't geared towards dps, under leveled, or playing group content solo.
>fine for an arpg
What the fuck do you think this game is?
>>331286431
The best kind of armchair psychologist is the one who studies it, has seen multiple professionals for the matter, and has many of the things that normies would consider socially unfit (i.e. schizophrenia, narcissistic personality disorder, asperger's, bipolar disorder etc.)
>>331286265
I'm not the one who made the original claim.
You failed to substantiate the original opinion or prove that the critics didn't play it and that the beta doesn't count. The burden of proof isn't working.
Your damage control isn't working. Nobody is falling for your loophole
>>331286347
Give reasons as to why that's wrong.
Don't respond f you're not even going to attempt to actually refute any of those points
It's alright. I'm playing through it mostly solo. I just take my time doing side quest and exploring the city. I'm just a sucker for loot shooters though.
>>331286626
You're entirely wrong.
>>331286661
Give reasons as to why I'm wrong.
Don't respond to me if you're not even going to attempt to actually refute any of those points
Burden of proof is on you.
I just fucking hate the fact that there's lag even when you're solo. I understand it's always online, but I'm getting tired of shooting guys and having them die 2 seconds later after they've shot me up a bit more.
>>331286661
It's bedtime in america kid.
>>331286701
Nah you're just wrong and literally and figuratively a stupid cukold.
>>331285758
>its Evolve all over again
>bought Evolve
>397 hours on record
>play it on a weekly basis
>hear a big update is coming this summer
>still find low level players who've just bought the game
I know it's fun to shit on Evolve but dammit, I like the game. Shit's fun, and it's come so far from when it first released.
>>331286525
Besides, you don't even know if I'll practice the field or go into a law field.
>>331285219
Supreme delusion.
Having not actually bothered to stop being an aspie and constructed something to actually respond to what I said. You even immediately responded with an attack on character.
You lose.
>>331281179
I get a Diablo feeling playing it, feels good actually. Wonder what will happen in the next few weeks senpaitachi.
>>331286803
Supreme delusion.
Having not actually bothered to stop being an aspie and constructed something to actually respond to what I said. You even immediately responded with an attack on character.
You don't know what you're even doing anymore.
>>331286748
>cukold
Played the beta and watched a mate play it, and by level 9 it looks identical to level 1. No going to bother withb this.
>>331286868
>>cukold
>>331281179
Fuck /v/. I liked it.
>>331286412
Don't try and play it off like they have a variety of enemies. I enjoy the game, but you don't need to blindly defend it. You get the point of his post. There is no enemy variety. You can't argue that
>>331286796
>>331286618
You're a first year psych major trying to psychoanalyze anonymous strangers in an argument over video games on a mongolian shitposting board.
There is no save for you. You're actually this pathetic.
>>331282004
> to be fair it only consists of reaching lvl 30
To be fair... there's lvl 99 for dark zone. You can buy better plans for better weapons from the dark zone vendors at level 50.
>>331286962
We actually could have had a pretty decent level-headed discussion going before the shitposters arrived >>331282337
>>331286962
The majority of people who played it actually liked it. No one actually thinks it's perfect. Can usually get a decent thread going once the shit posters leave.
Joe ferro did nothing wrong
>>331287057
Go the fuck back to your redshit hugbox you autist.
>>331286990
You're shitster and I hope you never make it in the real world. brb applying for SSI for my psychotic and anxiety issuesif you care to know, my IQ is MENSA qualifying, but you don't want to know so too bad amirite?
>>331287149
You seem upset.
>>331287032
Wait, the dz goes to 99? I thought it stopped at 50
>>331283749
>>331283859
git gud. Use better tactics.
You people always bitch about how braindead the AI is but you can't even beat the braindead AI.
>>331283943
> The melee in this game is fucking dogshit
Maybe you should try shooting instead. Melee is only decent to give you 3 seconds to run away to another cover spot.
>>331287168
>if you care to know, my IQ is MENSA qualifying
The gift that keeps on giving.
>>331283946
>"we'll run you through the levels, we'll replay them on hard to grind you faster"
>a few hours of me getting 1 shot by every enemy, not being able to kill anything. Story is fucking ruined.
Tell your friends to fuck off and leave you alone. Enemies scale to everyone's level so if your friends are level 30 and you're much lower... they gonna one shot you.
>>331287128
>The majority of people who played it actually liked it
Ad populum
>>331287216
>melee
I really wish they'd open this up. It's a loot drop game. Let me use a fucking fire axe. Give me a melee skill tree
>>331287193
It goes to 99 but there's no point past 50 since the vendors only sell up to lvl 50 blueprints.
>>331287289
To be fair, the game is pretty much designed to be played co-op. I get that some people are going to want to run through solo at their own personal pace, but they're the odd man out.
>>331287032
Which is a trivial point since the Dark Zone is ass, and progression is based on farming phoinex credits making DZ credits mostly pointless.
>>331287367
With how much health enemies have on challenging... I don't think you would even want to run up to the enemy to melee him. Seems like a sure way to get yourself killed.
Pro
It's a decent 3rd person shooter.
Good combat mechanics
Nice tweeking of builds
Online with mates is good
Cons
Expect destiny style level gaps.
There are some inexcusable bugs
Solo is boring
7/10
>>331287578
>Expect destiny style level gaps.
Could you explain? I haven't plyyed Destiny.
>>331287485
>To be fair, the game is pretty much designed to be played co-op.
Yea but it's designed so you play with people around the same level as you, not 20 levels above you. Go do matchmaking to find people around your level.
> progression is based on farming phoinex credits making DZ credits mostly pointless.
You don't even know what you are taking about here.
There are a shitload of safe rooms in the Dark Zone. Every single safe room in the Dark Zone has a vendor that takes DZ credits. And yes you can buy Yellow blueprints with DZ credit.
>>331287149
>Go the fuck back to your redshit hugbox you autist.
>tumblr_mefp5pxIHu1rvpnry.jpg
>>331286975
>looters who have baseball bats and AKs
>prisoners who are like the looters but with better guns like LMGs and shotguns
>cleaners who have flamethrowers, gas grenades, firebombs, fire axes and shields made of scrap
>a PMC who has guys that carry SMGs, flashbangs, and shotguns, dudes with full sized ballistic shields and LMGs, medics that can deploy first aid stations, fuckers with grenade launchers
Oh no, some of them share enemy archetypes, like snipers and engineers. shit game 0/10
>>331287342
>ad populum
Fuck off. Doesn't even make sense in this context.
>>331287709
It makes perfect sense. "Most people who played it liked it" is a fallacy. You fuck off.
>>331287578
The biggest con for me is that you can get through all of the content in 2 days and then there's nothing to do but grind gear in preparation of future content, which they keep nerfing to artificially drag out how long their game lasts.
>>331287485
>progression is based on farming phoinex credits making DZ credits mostly pointless.
Nub. Every single special enemy with a name you kill will earn you phoenix credits. And DZ has lots of respawning ones. You can FARM phoenix credits from the DZ. Not to mention many DZ endors sell yellow plans for DZ credits.
>>331287491
Hence why I wanted another skill tree to go with it. Could be cool. Bladed melee shreds armor or something. Blunt could cause a flashbang like affect
>>331287804
>Every single special enemy with a name you kill will earn you phoenix credits
They nerfed it. They used to drop 15 phoenix credits, now they drop 1 or 2. It's an extreme waste of time to farm phoenix credits in the darkzone when you can just farm lincoln tunnel and get 30 every 15 minutes
>>331287741
Ad populum implies a falacy based off of collective misperception. This is not what you are implying.
>>331287652
>Yea but it's designed so you play with people around the same level as you, not 20 levels above you
That's a design flaw on the part of Ubisoft. Most multiplayer online games scale enemies down to the lowest member or average level of the party. Playing with randoms is shit compared to your mates.
>And yes you can buy Yellow blueprints with DZ credit.
The best gear is bought through Phoinex Coins. End game in the Division is all about farming PC.
>get yellow gear item at the end of a challenge mission
>it's worse than my current purple
yellows are too hard to get tbqh
>>331287906
You just described exactly what I'm implying.
>>331287809
You might actually be retarded
>>331287956
Not him but yeah, you literally have no idea what that phrase means.
>>331287910
>The best gear is bought through Phoinex Coins. End game in the Division is all about farming PC.
We've seen 3 Phoenix Credit shop resets, and the blueprints have been the same for all 3. Only the purples switched. What you see now is what you get, and there are things missing.
Base of Operations and DZ06 safehouses don't sell weapon mods for every mod slot. Some high end mod blueprints are only available from other DZ safehouses for DZ$, not PCredits
>>331288036
I looked it up to make sure and I know exactly what it means.
>Not him
Sure buddy.
>>331287910
>phoenix coins
Actually, it's worse than that. It's all about the division tech
I'll buy it on summer sale or once it's under €15.
>>331288145
This. The game is already pretty cheap right now but what's the point when I don't have people to play with and it's plagued by hackers. The Dark Zone was a good idea but they fucked up massively on execution.
>>331288145
>>331288219
Better to wait until they release more content. A lot of it is going to be DLC but some of it'll be general updates
>>331288282
The annoying part is if I ever do get the game I'll be way behind on the gear treadmill, unless they reset it with new toptier gear. Thats what I hate about loot-based games, you either get in early or your fucked. IIRC they nerfed the drop rate on high end gear after the first week.
I would have liked it more if there were some kind of mutants or monsters (no zombies), killings thugs is not that fun after a while
>>331288393
>You either get in early or your fucked
How? I got the game a week after my friends did, but I've caught up to them and now I'm doing challenge missions with them. I don't see how changing that week to a month or a year is going to fuck someone.
>Beta launches
>Get to 8
>PvP is fun
>Game launches
>Get to 30
>PvP is shit because it now boils down to ultimates
Fuck this is boring. Everyone is running the Defense ultimate and it makes engagements so fucking boring. Dark Zone was much more fun in the Beta.
>>331288074
No. Saying most people that played it liked it isn't even a falacy. Pic related.
Ad populum applies to when everyone though the world was flat, or various urban myths, shit like that. Not someone saying most people enjoyed the game that played it.
>>331281179
Fine by me
>>331288545
Ad populim applies when majority perception is used to justify something as true. Saying most people played it liked it implies it was a good game for that reason.
>>331288545
There was never a time in history when everyone thought the earth was flat.
The Earth being round was known from about 400-200 B.C., maybe even earlier, historians can't quite agree on that
>>331288676
No. It just means most people liked it.
>>331287128
>no one actually thinks it's perfect
>>331288676
>Ad populim applies when majority perception is used to justify something as true.
True. It doesn't matter whether they were right or not, it's still a fallacy.
Except there are cases where something is "true" based on what majority perception says it is. The meaning of words, for example, or general consensus, or what the majority opinion is for a video game. And the majority opinion is that the game is good.
>>331288507
Are you kidding? The difference between a week and a year is massive. A week is nothing, especially if you have friends to level boost you and barely anyone except the most dedicated of players have the best gear in the endgame.
Even then you're going to have to spend 100 hours to grind for the same gear that used to take 10 hours to get. The only way to fix this is if Ubisoft makes that gear obsolete with newer gear in future updates. Which will most likely happen.
>>331288813
>The meaning of words
>or what the majority opinion is for a video game
Only one of these things is valid based on argument ad populum
>Anon! Go rescue those hostages
>Fight through a series of purple and yellow enemies
>Open cage where hostages being held
>There's a loot crate behind them
>It has a fucking assault rifle in it.
These niggers serious?
The grind to 30 is pretty mindnumbing
all the encounters give pretty shit exp, the only useful part of them is if you need a few extra resources, better to do them overleveld if ever
the missions themselves, are really really hollow, its all "go to this spot, have a shoot out, move to next spot, another shootout", none of them have any depth
once you hit cap its all about the challenge missions and other daily resets, todays daily weapon was a crazy ass SCAR, which sucks too because if youre under 30 you probably cant afford it let alone have the option to buy it, so without being capped you miss out on gear, and if you dont log in every day, you miss out on gear
this also applies to cosmetics which can be bought daily
DZ lvls are pretty worthless after 30
DZ is as shallow as the main game, and PVP is pretty shitty right now, if you dont have your signature and the other group does, youre fucked
go into the DZ alone and youre also fucked
go into the DZ with a matchmaking group and you can expect some fun and good loot, until you try to extract, because one person is going to leave the party, rogue your ass, and then his buddies take the gear.
the only way to do DZ and actually get loot is to play with friends, most of my friends are normies who arent even capped yet, so going to the DZ is a short lived affair because of timezones and shit combined with work/military duties/other shit
if they dont come out with new content within the next month the game will be dead as everybody will have farmed the fuck out of their gear to the point where they cant find upgrades
combined with the endgame being 100% bullet sponge, fights dont feel tense, they feel tiring, signature skills only decrease the time on the bullet sponge and not by a whole lot either, or they keep you from getting railed either at the mob or when you try to extract
and gl getting an extraction without 3 other groups showing up, which then puts a big target on that extraction
>>331288815
Gear is going to be obsolete though. Incursions drop set gear, which will probably be better
>>331288804
Implying that means the game is good, just not perfect. Hence Ad populum
>>331288815
>Even then you're going to have to spend 100 hours to grind for the same gear that used to take 10 hours to get
That's assuming they only nerf and never buff. They could wind up buffing the game more so that it takes 10 hours to get what it used to take people 100 hours to get.
Your argument is based on assumption
>>331288893
If most people think a game is good, then the statement "most people think the game is good" is true.
>>331288979
>Your argument is based on assumption
And yours isn't? Why do you think they're going to suddenly for no reason revert the change they made to loot drop rates?
>>331288964
Implying that your opinion is all that matters in video games
>>331289024
But it doesn't actually make the game good. Which was implied in the context of discussion.
>>331289059
Implying your opinion is all that matters because more people agree with you.
>>331288545
considering that most of those "reviews" were within the first week, i dont trust them in the least, namely because people will try and justify their purchase by circlejerking in review sections like those. SO MANY of those reviews are from people with under 5 or even 10 hours, and theyre either under 20 words or have no content whatsoever to the review. touting that number like it means anything is pointless.
go look at the DLC shit for COD games, its positive rated most of the time, does that mean its good? does that mean its worth the money? absolutely not, steam reviews are a joke
>>331288979
I don't see why they would do that considering they specifically went out of their way to nerf the game so that it takes 100 hours to get what it used to take people 10 hours to get.
>>331289147
Actually, the game had worse reviews when it first came out
>>331281490
>>331281367
Im 2 days played on a character and still level 14 on my highest
Twinking in DZ is fun as fuck
>>331289030
>Why do you think they're going to suddenly for no reason revert the change they made to loot drop rates?
The methods they nerfed were not even the fastest way to get gear. Someone who got into the game after the nerf can get full yellows in less time than it took someone who used those methods before they were nerfed
>>331289078
How does it not make the game good? Just because your fairy ass didn't like it doesn't mean it's bad
>>331289239
How does that work exactly?
>>331288695
>There was never a time in history when everyone thought the earth was flat.
Nigga, you must of failed history class. Back then, the teachings of it being flat was even enforced by Christians. If you said it's round, it went against their teachings. Galileo proved it was round but then he had to take it back or he was gonna be beheaded. He was then placed under house arrest for the rest of his life.
>>331289265
>How does it not make the game good?
Ad populum is a fallacy. Just because lowest common denominator plebs like you liked it doesn't mean it's good. No more than it makes Call of Duty the best shooter or WoW the best MMO ever made.
>>331289263
How?
>>331289341
>i didn't like it so it's shit
Fine. What do you like then?
>>331289078
Now change what I said to "If anon thinks a game is good, then the statement 'anon thinks the game is good' is true."
Now let's say someone asks anon "Is this game good"? Anon thinks it is so he says yes.
He doesn't say "I personally think it is" because this isn't how people talk. People don't add "I think" to the beginning of everything they say. It's already obvious that someone saying something is only saying what they personally think.
Nobody claimed it was objectively good. They were asked what they thought and they answered with what they thought. You turned a question of taste into an argument over semantics and logical objectivity. You're a spergelord
>>331289423
Who are you quoting? Also why does that matter? The point is "most people liked it" does not make a game good.
>>331289442
>Nobody claimed it was objectively good
They did based on the claim that most people liked it.
>You turned a question of taste into an argument over semantics and logical objectivity. You're a spergelord
*sperglord
And actually you did that. Also you're rude.
>>331289276
Plan out a build and carefully do missions that will allow you to unlock the wings stuff you need for skills and what not
stay in the DZ at level 14 and gear some awesome gear
optionally hit DZ rank 30 like i did recently and load up on sweet OP as FUCK Purple level 14 weapons and armor
PvP like fucking crazy taking on entire HORDES or low level players
shit goes down with the occasional VS another well geared player or group of players and its fucking crazy fun
>>331289391
Do Lincoln Tunnel. 30 birdbux in under 10 minutes if your group is good.
Back when you could do it solo, I was doing the final mission on hard. I'd get 30 Phoenix Credits from it and it took longer than 10 minutes.
There's also a bug they're about to nerf that lets you get 1PC every 10-30 seconds depending on how you do it, but it's about to get nerfed and isn't actually that much faster than Lincoln Tunnel farming with competent players.
>>331288920
>The grind to 30 is pretty mindnumbing
Not really. Just go around the city normally and doing missions when you get to em. You can easily end up lvl 30 before you even finish all the missions.
> DZ lvls are pretty worthless after 30
There's a bunch of blueprint that can only be brought at dz lvl 50.
> DZ is as shallow as the main game, and PVP is pretty shitty right now, if you dont have your signature and the other group does, youre fucked
Use fire ammo. Seriously a life saver.
> go into the DZ alone and youre also fucked
I've done well alone, tho I do recommend going as a group.
> go into the DZ with a matchmaking group and you can expect some fun and good loot, until you try to extract, because one person is going to leave the party, rogue your ass, and then his buddies take the gear.
Never seen that happen ever. Once you're in a party, they stick with your party.
> and gl getting an extraction without 3 other groups showing up, which then puts a big target on that extraction
Never seen that happen either. People just summon another helicopter and move on.
>>331289512
The point is, you're using some arbitrary judgement system for a game without providing any context. Let's see the list of games that you think are so great then.inb4 best of v damage control
You also continuously use ad populum incorrectly.
>>331289589
>They did based on the claim that most people liked it.
They brought up the fact that most people liked it because OP wanted to know what the "verdict" of a large group of people was.and sorry for being rude, it's what 10 years of /v/ does to peopleget out while you still can
Who road to DZ level 0 here?
So much fun just playing DZ without worrying about levels. Yesterday, by myself, I terrorized 4 German guys. A perfectly timed grenade thrown in front of them as they ran, and a BFG and I got them all down.
Was fun, beat all the missions, did alot of the side missions, got lvl 30.
all 50 hours.
now I am done with the game because theres just not anything new to do,
>b-but my dark zone
it sucks.
Maybe some of the dlc will bring me back, but for now i am done with it.
8/10 its okay
>>331289789
Not when more than half the high end blueprints in the game require DZ level 50.
>>331289879
Ubi has mentioned new content next week. Mission on map shows an incursion already.
Check back soon anon
>>331289913
I can't be bothered grinding, not when the DLC is likely going to make it worthless.
>>331289512
You just keep spouting stupid shit. If a game is liked by a lot of people, then it is a success. Generally speaking, shitty games are not successful. You're arguement couldn't be more flawed. CoD may not be the most stimulating game ever but it is always well designed and has tight shooting mechanics and whether you will admit it or not, it is mindless fun as well as a huge success. Thus, a considerably better game than whatever indie bullshit you have been playing instead of giving The Division a chance.
>>331289706
>The point is, you're using some arbitrary judgement system for a game
And what judgement system is that exactly? All I did was point out that ad populum is a fallacy. I haven't used ad populum once incorrectly. By saying it makes the game good, you're using an actual flawed judgement system to defend it while only providing fallicious reasoning instead of actual reasons why it's good.
>Let's see the list of games that you think are so great then. inb4 best of v damage control
Again, why does that matter? Why do you feel the need to resort to personal attacks instead of attacking my argument?
>>331288219
>The game is already pretty cheap right now
>$100
>Cheap
Thats the only thing preventing me from buying this game.
>>331290047
Because your argument has been ripped to shreds by several people now, but you insist on persisting in your "argument"
Your position that you feel is so iron clad has already been argued. There's not much else to do but point out that you're retarded at this point.
>>331290039
>You just keep spouting stupid shit.
Pot meet kettle.
>If a game is liked by a lot of people, then it is a success.
I don't care. The arguemnt isn't about the game's sales success. The argument is about whether it's a good game or not.
>Generally speaking, shitty games are not successful.
You and I both know that's not true.
>You're arguement couldn't be more flawed.
I'm not the one implying sales=quality.
>it is always well designed and has tight shooting mechanics and whether you will admit it or not, it is mindless fun as well as a huge success
That's your shitty uninformed opinion. If you think CoD is one of the best shooters because of it's "success" then you're too stupid to reason with.
>Thus, a considerably better game than whatever indie bullshit you have been playing instead of giving The Division a chance.
I never mentioned anything about indie games. Stop projecting and desperately trying to defend your game.
>7 Days into playing the game
>Level 30
>Beat main story
>No more new side missions
>Hard/challenge modes all done
>Dark Zone farming only thing left
>Bored as fuck already
So...I just grind DZ now...?
Yeah...great game, glad I got this shit for free.
>>331290236
Using character attacks calling me stupid and claiming that popular games are good because they are popular is hardly ripping anything to shreds except maybe your own credibility.
Your position that you feel is so iron clad has already been debunked. But you insist on persisting in your shitposting so there's not much else to do but point out that you're projecting at this point.
>>331289147
>
the game had mixed review at launch due to server problems at release. Glad to see the review score is positive and blue now instead of red.
Game is fun with friends. I'd never play this game alone.
I like it just fine. I have 4 days in it as of a few hours ago. It's more fun if you have a crew to play with. Single player is a chore, though I got all of the collectibles on my own time. The only trophies I have left are for killing 20 rogues (they're rare to come by in my experience) and to beat a handful of missions I have left on hard.
>>331289589
>>Nobody claimed it was objectively good
>They did based on the claim that most people liked it.
Then they made a false claim, because there is no such thing as an objectively good game. Even if 7 billion people thought it was the best game ever, all it takes is one person saying "I don't like it" (and meaning it) to stop it from being objectively good. Since the claim is false, you don't need to argue around it by pointing out fallacies.
>>331290047
You probably learned about ad populum like a week ago and use it as much as possible now so you can look smart to people even more retarded than yourself on the internet. Your opinion does not matter in the grand scheme of things. If a majority of people think something is good, it is good. If a majority of people think something is bad, it is bad. A minority of people thinking the opposite do not decide the quality of something. If almost everyone thinks MJ is the best of all time but 20 people don't think so, that doesn't make it any less true. It just makes those 20 people autistic.
>>331290465
There is a fuck ton do to!
Like...ehh...grind DZ for gear so you can...do challenge modes even faster! YEAH! That's it, do that!
>>331289327
No, you just don't read.
Vatican has most of the hermetic teachings accepted, at least those that in their opinion don't speak against christianity, among those teachings are those of Hermes who about 400-200 B.C. during a meditation realized that the whole universe came from a single point which exploded into a million pieces which then formed together under the law of Logic and formed hot "round" lumps which rotated around themselves and cooled off gradually and after some time life appeared on them and we live on one of those objects.
The church never believed in the flat earth theory, most of the well read people never believed in the flat earth theory, there were maybe a few peasants who did although I don't think tat most peasants were at all concerned with anything besides their crops, alcohol and sex.
Anyone who died because he was waging a fight against the church, which knew the earth wasn't flat, which had libraries with books that stated the earth wasn't flat, in order to prove the earth wasn't flat is an idiot who wasted his life.
Anyone else see the rat man? It's just a dude standing around showing off his bundle of rats that he has by the tails. This is the best pic I could get of him.
>>331290718
I've seen a rat and a pigeon fightingI shot the rat
I haven't played in 2 days. I have literally nothing to do except grind for a possibly better weapon/gear, but we all know the drops are shit 99% of the time. I don't feel like wasting time hunting a slightly better weapon when I have a ton of games to play in my backlog.
Challenge modes are unfun, and the Dark Zone is nauseatingly repetitive, jumping between the same 5-6 landmarks the whole time. No one fights because the penalties are too severe. There's no loot worth stealing anyway.
this game sounds like everything wrong with the industry.
>>331290047
Ad populum only works with objective informatiom
A games quality is subjective
>>331281179
Did we ever get to meet the timers leader face to face?
Also how the story is presented is awful. Without using the wiki I did not know why the LMB were in New York and why they stayed there.
>>331290657
>Your opinion does not matter in the grand scheme of things
Neither does yours.
>If a majority of people think something is good, it is good. If a majority of people think something is bad, it is bad.
Nope. Argument ad populum.
>A minority of people thinking the opposite do not decide the quality of something.
A majority of people thinking the opposite does not decide the quality of something. Quality isn't determined by majority opinion, that's an indisputable fact. Just because 20 million flies loves shit doesn't make shit taste delicious.
You have no argument, just character attacks and lame attempts at appealing to the majority. Which makes you more retarded and autistic than anyone else.
>>331290416
I didn't say CoD was one of the best shooters of all time, in fact I said it was mindless. However, it is always well put together with good fps mechanics. Now as for The Division, the game has good (not stellar) tps mechanics, a great premise, a good story, great loot and an interesting setting. All of that and most people think it is a good game. How do you get to decide that it isn't?
>>331290950
Even if a game's quality was compeltely subjective (it isn't), that doesn't make ad populum a valid argument.
>>331290851
I've never had this experience. Every time I go into the dz there's usually a group of 2-4 people going rogue.
I do wonder how much platform and time of day affects it
>>331290465
If you thought this game had ANYTHING to do at max level, you are sadly mistaken, there is ZERO endgame, all you do is grind for gear that you don't need because there's nothing to do with it
But hey, at least you got it for free, I feel bad for all these idiots that dropped 60-100 bucks on it.
>>331291067
>a great premise
New Yorkers bring large amounts of cash to buy things on Black Friday?
Is this game out on PC? Where is the fugging crack, family?
>>331281179
It's shallow, but fun.
Movement and shooting mechanics are fun when there aren't any bugs or server problems.
>>331291108
Seriously just wait one month you impatient faggots.
>>331291009
Who are the timers? Not sure who you mean. Going to assume the rioters, because those are the only ones that you don't.
Also, go into your inventory, and look at evidence. Thats where a lot of extra story stuff is
>>331290614
>Since the claim is false, you don't need to argue around it by pointing out fallacies.
But why shouldn't I? The claim is false after all.
Also I disagree with you, objecitvely BAD games do exist. Not that I'm saying the Division is one of them, but still.
>>331291178
It's more of the fact they released a game that has no endgame content, kind of fucked up don't you think?
>>331290950
>subjective claims
>most people agree with them
>therefore it is true
That's ad populum in a nutshell.
>>331281179
Its very solid game, has good ideas, is centered around gameplay which I love, has tons of details, the world's all one block that you only load into once, missions are varied and fun to teamwork through, upgrading bases is always cool to see too.
Cons is the novelty seemed to wear off fast. I was very into it the first 20 hours but now I'm level 21 and don't really have a drive to play anymore. Although that could just be all games because I don't want to play anything else really either. I burned myself out on vidya these last couple weeks. I'd give it a solid 8.5 I am really curious about the underground expansion dlc
>>331291246
It's more like they underestimated the player base.
I have no idea why companies don't expect players to rush through games anymore
>>331290657
What kind of ass backwards metric is that?
Fuck off with this "the majority decides quality" bullshit. You're enforcing your own bullshit stupid popularity metric on other people, then looking down on them for not following your stupid rules.
Get over yourself.
Would you tell a foodie that a Mcdonalds big mac is just as good as a fine steak and wine?
Would you tell a film buff that your 6 second snapchat bullshit is just as good as Lawrence of Arabia?
Hobbyists/enthusiasts are not obligated to enjoy literally everything popular that comes out in the medium. In fact, anyone who does lacks any sort of discerning taste and should not be trusted to levy his opinion on ANY matter, much less his fucking hobby
>>331291147
>I have no arguement so I better try to make the game sound as dumbed down as humanly possible
>>331291398
That's literally the premise though. You can wax poetic about the gameplay all you want, but to try and upsell the story because "most people liked it!" is beyond pathetic.
>>331287623
Playing with a group.
The difference in lvls of players means pvp or co -op is either walk in the park or they look at you and you die
>>331291304
>Its very solid game, has good ideas
Only one of these is true.
>the world's all one block that you only load into once
Unless you fast travel or enter an instance, then be prepared to wait for loading times even if you have a fast SSD
>missions are varied
:|
>>331291095
I'm on PC so that's probably why. I noticed when I played the beta onxbonethat more people were just dickweeds and killed you no matter what. Then again, it was the beta, so who knows.
>>331291203
Rikers leader
Do we ever meet her?
>>331291398
>I have no arguement so I better try to make the game sound as great and interesting as humanly possible
>>331291556
Yeah. Larae barret or however it's spelled. She's one of the security missions I think. Rescue jtf hostages in it
>>331291640
Damn
I finished all theaters missions and never noticed I killed her already.
Even Joe Ferro had more talking
>>331291460
Oh you're right, the premise isn't that someone engineered a virus that has never been seen before and completely wiped out NY as we know it with a very well executed plan. The premise is people in NY took money shopping.
>>331291702
Oh, I don't remember if she says much during it. She's got a scene in thd evidence menu though. Then you're glad she doesn't talk more
>>331291702
Also, ferro + the cleaners seemed to be the faction that had the most love put into them in general
>>331291210
>But why shouldn't I? The claim is false after all.
Because the claim is false. The fallacy doesn't have anything to do with that. If someone says "Almost everyone agrees with me that the world is round" it doesn't mean the world isn't round. They've still committed a fallacy by implying that what people personally think about something has anything to do with it, but their claim that the world is round isn't false.
>objecitvely BAD games do exist
Unless you can get everyone in the world to play it and each say it's a bad game, then you can't really make that claim without some level of assumption. And if assumption is involved than it isn't truly objective. A game like that COULD exist but there would be no feasible way to logically prove that it does.
>>331291727
>someone engineered a virus that has never been seen before
A money virus. A well executed plan by Terrorists to use Black Friday shopping as a means to kill people using a MONEY VIRUS.
But yeah you right a virus used to wipe out NYC is a great and original premise that has never been done before and is worthy of praise. Because most people like the game.
Get a fucking grip dude.
>>331281179
>LMB sniper gets set on fire
>>331291954
dare I ask for source on that pic?
>>331291901
Not him, but a broken game is an objectively bad one. There's no assumption needed there. If you think there's no feasible way to logically prove that it is then you're beyond reason.
>>331292036
Only pic of her I have
Post your agents.
>>331291942
>>331291147 is saying that the premise is people bringing large amounts of cash to black friday, but even though the money is spread by cash, that's not the premise. Someone who handed over $5 and got a $1 bill in change could have been infected. The amount of money any ol' shopper brought along on Black Friday has nothing to do with it. It's the amount of money that changes hands.
>>331292042
Every game has something broken in it. They're called bugs, and there has never been a bug free game.
>>331291942
>Money virus
You mean a virus that just so happens to be spread through money? So if it had been in cupcakes, it would be a cupcake virus? Or doorknob virus if it was spread by doorknobs?
>>331292107
>that's not the premise
That literally is the premise though.
You're literally going out of your way to defend the story of this game. The story of a money virus infecting NYC on Black Friday. Use your head for a single second and realize how stupid you're being. This is the worst hill you could have chosen to die on.
>>331291534
>:|
Get the fuck out
>>331292186
>that just so happens
Give me a fucking break. The story is beyond retarded and you know it. Even most people who think its a good game know it.
>>331292167
The fact that bugs exist in every game does not excuse games that are broken. A broken game is objectively bad by any reasonable metric.
Relativists are the worst fucking people to deal with. Period. What's the fucking point of having a discussion about anything if "hurr its everyone opinion dey all matter the same!"?
>>331292187
"People bringing a lot of money to Black Friday" isn't the premise. The premise is "People EXCHANGED a lot of money on Black Friday and spread a disease in the process".
>>331291534
>Unless you fast travel or enter an instance, then be prepared to wait for loading times even if you have a fast SSD
Fuck are you talking about? The ONLY times you have to load are when you enter an instance or fast travel. There are 0 loading times when traversing through the city.
>>331292187
It's not a money virus.
It's modified smallpox. Initial outbreak was started with cash, that's all.
>>331292307
Holy fuck reading comprehension you retard
>>331292236
Did the money create the virus? Is that why its a money virus? Because it definitely isn't a strain of small pox, its the very seldom heard of 'money virus.'
>>331292303
>>331292323
Now you're just arguing semantics. I get that you want to defend the Division against the haters or whatever, but this is just fucking stupid.
>>331292283
If you don't want relativists to pop up then don't argue about objectivity
>>331282337
>>Memorable characters
Literally the most obnoxious cast since Borderlands. Ultra passive-aggressive doctor, tourettes syndrome asshole that can't go a sentence without "FUCK". At least Faye is moderate enough, but she's so bland, she may as well be a random street NPC asking for water.
>>331292421
I'm not the one who started the argument to begin with. It's not my fault that relativists love to pull the subjectivity card when defending their games.
The division is like a big cafe sandwich.
The place is full of macbook faggots, but you decide to go anyway.
Then you buy your coffee and the sandwich.
You would normally pay about 6$ for that but in this big cafe it costs 18$
>18$ What the fuck? Fine.
Then you go to your table looking at the smug assholes eating their vegan bullshit.
Then you take your first bite out of that sandwich and notice that the edges have dried up.
The middle of the sandwich is soggy as fuck
And it only looks good, taste is mediocre.
The faggots sold you cup of coffee and a 8 hour old sandwich for 18$
>You were retarded enough to pay for it.
>>331292473
>wholly misrepresent the premise
>get called out
>"you're just arguing semantics"
Shoppers a lot of money on their person has nothing to do with anything about how the virus spread. Anyone who had ANY money was at risk of spreading it, and once it began spreading, the money itself stopped mattering because it was spread through things like doorknobs and handrails
>>331292473
My point is that the guy obviously has not touched the game or he would know simple shit like that. How can you argue against something without knowing anything about it?
>>331292432
You're wrong. The game has memorable characters and on top of that most people think it is a good game. So you are wrong.
>>331292518
>You would normally pay about 6$
>for coffee and a sandwich
>number before the dollar sign
Canada sounds awful
>>331292618
Funland actually but here everything is already expensive.
>>331292567
No, your point was the premise is good because most people liked the game.
>the guy obviously has not touched the game or he would know simple shit like that. How can you argue against something without knowing anything about it?
And we're right back to ad hominem >>331284038
>>331286752
Me an my friends really wanted to get into Evolved(20-something people in our hangout/discord) since we were rhuge Left 4 Dead fags. But when that DLC bullshit surfaced, it was too much for us. Some of us are still hoping they'll right that bullshit.
>>331292303
>The premise is "People EXCHANGED a lot of money on Black Friday and spread a disease in the process".
Which happened because New Yorkers bring large amounts of cash to buy things on Black Friday
>>331292590
You're not wrong because it's a fucking amazing 10/10 game.
>>331292762
No. The only person that needs to have brought large amounts of cash is the person who brought the infected money.
>go to store
>get a coffee for $2
>get infected money back
>now you're infected
>go to store
>get a TV for $2000
>get infected money back
>now you're infected
It doesn't matter how much money you had, the only thing that matters is the fact that you had money to spend at all. You can exchange money without having large amounts of it. In fact, this is how most people exchange cash money: in small amounts.
>>331292793
That's what I'm saying
>only buy popular games most people think is good
>never be wrong when defending your games because they're popular
>anyone who disagrees with you is an autistic hipster
It's that simple.
>>331292878
The virus was spread through large amounts of money though. It wasn't just a single on black friday.
Also you're still pedantically arguing semantics
>>331292886
Shut the fuck up.
>>331292690
It's not really ad hominem though.
And it's not really fanboy like you linked.
Having played the game gives more insight into the game than having not played it. That's just logic.
Also, unless I missed it somewhere, no one said that the premise is good because most people liked the game
>>331281179
Im actually exited for the contend patches.. ill maybe buy the DLC's.
>>331292952
If you're going to keep saying that multiple people who each individually have a large amount of money is IN ANY WAY IMPORTANT TO THE PREMISE, then I'm going to keep arguing against it because that is not the premise. It's not about semantics. It's about you being completely factually wrong about everything you've said
>>331292690
>babbys first argument
>>331292886
The problem is when people dislike it simply because it's popular. Then you actually are a hipster.
>>331292878
The question is why do you think either of those premises isn't completely fucking stupid?
>>331291147
>>331292187
>>331292952
>Money was involved so anything I say about money is the premise
>Anyone who disagrees is just arguing semantics
This is how dumb you sound.
>>331293146
>I have no arguement so I better try to make his posts sound as dumbed down as humanly possible
This is how stupid you actually are.
>>331293115
It's as equally stupid as any other piece of fiction about a pandemic.
>>331293068
>If you're going to keep saying that multiple people who each individually have a large amount of money is IN ANY WAY IMPORTANT TO THE PREMISE, then I'm going to keep arguing against it because that is not the premise
Ok but it is the premise. Nothing you say will change that.
>It's not about semantics. It's about you being completely factually wrong about everything you've said
No it's about semantics. You're quibbling over the difference between a large amount of cash being used to spread a virus and a small amount of cash used to spread a virus, even though ultimately they're both incredibly idiotic premises.
>>331293192
>make the game's premise sound as dumbed down as humanly possible.
>this is A-OK
>someone makes my premise sound as dumbed down as humanly possible
>straw dude straw dude dude
>>331293115
Have you ever seen black friday? That shit gets crazy. People are literally trampled to death.
If your weapon of attack is a virus, it's literally the best opportunity to get the maximum exposure
>>331293279
It's not Black friday that's the issue.
The vehicle for the virus is what's being mocked
I know /v/ can be obtuse sometimes but cmon.
>>331293270
>You're quibbling over the difference between a large amount of cash being used to spread a virus and a small amount of cash used to spread a virus,
No, I'm saying that the amount of money each person has is in no way relevant. It doesn't matter if they have a large amount. It doesn't matter if they have a small amount. It doesn't matter if they even had money, if they were asked to hold someone's purseor stole a pursefrom who was spending money then they were still at risk of infection. The amount of money any shopper had has nothing to do with the premise in any way.
>>331293272
>strawman someone's argument by dumbing it down as much as humanly possible
>this is A-OK
>someone points out the premise of the game is actually pretty dumb
>NO IT ISN'T YOU HAVEN'T EVEN PLAYED IT
>>331293427
>>331293272
>>331293192
>>331293146
Kill yourselves multiple times until you're undoubtedly dead.
>>331293365
>No, I'm saying that the amount of money each person has is in no way relevant. It doesn't matter if they have a large amount. It doesn't matter if they have a small amount.
And yet you're arguing petty semantics between the two
>It doesn't matter if they even had money
Right, it's just the item used to spread the virus. But sure money had nothing to do with the virus in any way.
Give it up kid.
>>331293482
If the guy put the virus on subway seats and taxi doors we could still have the same situation
Insisting that thet money itself was important to the premise is arguing semantics.
>>331293364
I guess? I mean, if you legitimately look at it it makes a certain sense. Dropping off some 1$ bills at as many places as popular would hit a lot of people.
Black friday brick and mortar store sales are primarily the older generations. People growing up with the internet primarily use it for sales, excepting door buster nonsense. Older generations tend to prefer cash or cheques as opposed to debit cards.
Come in, buy the toy if the season, get change. Change is infected. Go to a different store, infect things/people there. Go home. Infect family. Etc
>>331293026
>It's not really ad hominem though.
It's the quintessential ad hominem. "You haven't actually played it" is one of the most overussed meme tier fanboy defenses on /v/.
Someone called out the dumb premise of the game and you got backed into a corner you resorted so you accused of never having even touched the game.
The game had an open beta where over 6 million people played the game. A beta that includes the opening premise of the main story. And yet you fanboys still, STILL insist on using meme arguments and hamhanded accusations to defend it. It just reeks of desperation.
Also it was implied the game had a great premise among other positives because most people think it's a good game.
>>331281179
I pity Tom's ghost.
>>331293619
That's not the premise of the game though. But even if it was it would still be pretty stupid.
>Insisting that thet money itself was important to the premise is arguing semantics.
The money itself was used to spread the virus you fucking moron.
>>331293632
>Black friday brick and mortar store sales are primarily the older generations
>Older generations tend to prefer cash or cheques as opposed to debit cards.
You know we're talking about New York City here right? People do not spend cash on
I almost can't believe you people are trying to justify this. Almost.
>>331293768
>That's not the premise of the game though.
The premise of the game is that a city got infected and people have to come and fix the city. It doesn't matter what city. It doesn't matter what disease. It doesn't matter how the disease spread. It doesn't matter what government organization the player character is a part of.
All that matters is
>city in trouble
>go shoot people
That's the premise. To argue that anything else is important to the premise is arguing semantics
>>331293098
No, the problem is when you like a game that is popular. If a majority of people think something is good, it is good. A minority of people thinking the opposite do not decide the quality of something. If you think a popular game is bad then you're a hipster and theres nothing you can say to change that.
>>331287704
Not that guy, but they do kinda all play/ feel the same, except the cleaners. The "bosses" as well are just bullet sponges with nothing especially interesting
I like the game but it isn't amazing
>>331293880
And you accused me of dumbing down the premise as much as humanly possible?
Fucking really dude?
>To argue that anything else is important to the premise is arguing semantics
You don't know what semantics is. Stop embarrsing yourself.
>>331293953
No, the game is amazing. It has a great premise, a good story, great loot and an interesting setting. All of that and most people think it is a good game. How do you get to decide that it isn't?
>>331294030
>You don't know what semantics is.
You just argued semantics over semantics. Good job, anon that's pretty meta.
>>331293872
I dunno. I don't live in New York. I find it hard to believe that not one person would use cash. Or ask for cash back.
Which ultimately, for the plot to work would only need one person to be infected initially.
Not about justification. It's plausible, that's all. I'm not saying it's the greatest story ever written. Could it feasibly happen? Sure, why not?
>>331294220
>disagreeing with me is semantics
Just kill yourself.
>>331292715
I don't want to start anything, but I will say that the base game is solid.
>On release
2 main gamemodes: Hunt & Evacuation (5 matches w/ Hunt, Rescue, Nest, ending w/ Defend) + custom games
12 maps
12 starting Hunters
3 starting Monsters
DLC Cosmetics
>Now
3 main game modes: Quick Play (Hunt, Arena, Defend), Ranked Hunt (choose Hunter or Monster), Evacuation + custom games
16 maps + map changes for some
16 free Hunters w/ plans for 6 more free Hunters + 8 DLC Hunters
5 free Monsters w/ plans for 1 more free + 2 DLC Monsters
DLC Cosmetics + more DLC Cosmetics
All players can play with each other regardless of if you own the base game or all the DLC characters. I feel the game deserves a sale buy consideration. The content is there, it just took some time to get to this point. There's also a bunch of little changes but I've alreadyshilledthe game enough with this post.
>>331294251
Nobody saying it isn't plausable. Just that it's a hamhanded premise considering it takes place in a major city where most purchases on Black Friday are made via credit or debit.
Did I mention money is used to carry the virus? Like actual paper bills?
>>331294417
What would you prefor instead? Should the virus start on doughnuts? How about chorizo? Jeans?
>>331294363
>16 free Hunters...
>5 free Monsters...
I feel a bit misleading with this now that I think about it
>12 starting Hunters + 4 free...
>3 starting Monsters + 2 free...
that sounds better
>>331294504
are you seriously defending the money virus
>>331294504
To be fair all of those would be more interesting than MONEY USED TO MAKE PEOPLE DEAD. Especially chorizos, I could go for that.
>>331281179
It's /v/ they hate everything.
>>331294630
here we go
>>331294539
Again, what would you prefor instead?
Why do you have such an issue with someone using money as the initial vector for a virus?
I'm enjoying it so far, I play pretty much exclusively with a friend. We're at about level 20 at the moment; every few days we drop in for a co-op session. We'll head for a mission, carry out any sidequests or encounters on the way, try to find famous bits of New York to
gawk at like the Flatiron building or the municipal library in the Dark Zone.
Gameplay is decent, I like the loop of advancing through cover and flanking enemies; it makes me feel like the main mechanics of a game like XCOM turned into a TPS. The loot grind is fine, the numbers keep going up. The world itself is nice, I like the atmosphere of it. That said, it does have some dumb things to it, like the invincible civilians, plot points that don't make much sense.
>>331294597
You say more interesting
>>331294539
Thinks it ludicrous.
Is it boring or silly then?
>>331294665
Take it from a veryoldfag, it's not a myth.
>>331294742
>Is it boring or silly then?
It's both. Chorizos would have been silly, they could have maybe gone with a more interesting carrier for the virus. Instead they settled for a boring and cliche money is bad premise.
I don't really see why the premise is so worthy of praise when the rest of the story is rubbish. You guys aren't actually the Division for the story right?
>>331294857
Sure newfag.
The games okay. I enjoy the story and setting, and the flavor collectibles do a nice job of making the world a tad more real.
Can't stand the fucking community though, especially PvP. Twinking is rampant more than WoW, so if you're not max level or know precisely what to min max you're gonna eat shit. Doesn't help that you can't see an opposing players DZ level until after you're lying dead, and the game let's people of any level run anywhere really, so expect to bite the dust.
Grouping with people and doing missions I enjoy a lot, but the PvP is beyond cancerous in this state.
>>331294670
>plot points that don't make much sense.
The plot points make perfect sense. To argue anything else is semantics. Most people like the game.
>>331294953
Summer come early this year?
>>331295060
You tell me mr. spring break underage
>>331284146
The story sucks, but I like the phone calls and little tidbits that plays out the lives of civilians before or during the plague
The ultimates ruin the game.
>>331294875
>Money is bad premise
But if we want to be serious wouldn't something like a money actually be a good thing to infect?
I'm sure people catch stuff all the time from bills changing hands.
>>331294875
Hell no. And I was assuming that everyone who said it was great was false flagging because anyone who's played it knows that anyone saying 10/10 great game/great story/great characters is full of shit.
I'm just saying it's not out of the realm of possiblity. It does its job. That's it.
You guys do realize that The Division takes place WEEKS after the virus got around, not like the day after black friday, right?
>>331295124
You're wrong though. The Division is 10/10 great game/great story/great characters. All of that and most people think it is a good game. How do you get to decide that it isn't?
>>331295153
>WEEKS after the virus got around
>cars in the street still have lights on
>fresh tire tracks despite it snowing constantly and nobody driving
Great game sweden
>>331295153
You realize nobody said it takes place only a day after right? How does that change anything?
>>331295117
Maybe? Quite possibly it would only work on black friday. Viruses tend to have issue surviving on random surfaces over periods of time. But this is getting into specifics
It's pretty fun. Less variety of content than Destiny and more mundane overall, but more content in sheer hours, co-op is more fun, and the end-game content seems more promising. Plus, free DLC was promised iirc, so that's nice.
>>331295016
No, I mean: the specific one I'm thinking of is:
>power plant mission
>the Rikers are going to blow up the power plant with bombs, for some poorly-explained reason! Stop them!
>defuse bombs
>enemy boss: well fine, instead of bombs we'll blow up the power plant by making it overload somehow while we're all still inside!
>oh no, now we need to turn all of these valves placed all over the plant to stop the self-destruct sequence otherwise this power plant will somehow explode like a bomb!
It's silly, it feels like something out of a cartoon or dumb action flick, and not something I'd expect from a Tom Clancy game.
>>331295220
Not that guy, but I wouldnt give it a 10/10 because the end game isn't great. Relying on DZ as an end game terrible because you just get wrecked by people with a ton gear better than you, and to get better gear you have to DZ or farm the last mission on the hardest difficulty
It's a different loot game though, too many loot games that came out kept using the same diablo-style combat and gameplay. I got tired of d3/poe/grim dawn and borderlands is repetitive as fuck. Dying light and the expansion is great, but that game has literally no end game, even with the legend levels there's no reason to keep playing.
>>331295220
Thanks for providing an example
Tom Clancy's: Gears of Destiny.
Fuck at least Destiny had some interesting lore locked behind those bullshit cards and had sweet ass handcannons.
>>331295316
You're entirely wrong. If you legitimately look at it it makes a certain sense
That's not silly. It's plausable.
>>331295316
>not something I'd expect from a Tom Clancy game
You haven't played any of the modern TC games. I think all of the TC games past r6v2 (and included maybe) had trash stories.
>>331295359
You just keep spouting stupid shit. If a game is liked by a lot of people, then it is a success. Generally speaking, shitty games are not successful. You're arguement couldn't be more flawed. It's a considerably better game than whatever indie bullshit you have been playing instead of giving The Division a chance.
>>331295367
I don't need to. Most people think it's good.
>>331295092
Fixed it.
>>331295491
I don't know what you mean about "you keep spouting shit" when I'm a completely different person you're talking with. I bought the game and I like it, but I'm stating that it's nowhere near a 10/10 game. I don't know how you can find this a 10/10 game when there's obvious flaws that even the most hardcore players notice.
>>331295515
Nope you broke it
>>331295316
There's actually story for it, you just have to pay attention to the echos, watch the evidence, gather collectibles.
It's a shame they locked what story there is behind so much crap.
Rikers are pretty much just fuck everyone that isn't us we run shit now and murder rape everything else in the face
>>331295270
More time for exposure? Spreads by money only at first but then from person to person.
>>331295359
D3 still works because of seasons, which provide new sets that people wanna try as well as the Greater Rift Leaderboards, so you always have people competing.
I agree with you wholey, centering endgame around a PvP zone is retarded. You get absolutely destroyed by people with better gear so you cant progress, so your only other option is to grind a handful of stuff over and over and over.
>>331294757
That isn't a rebuttal.
>>331295567
What flaws? Why do you think they're flaws? Because you don't like them? Implying that your opinion is all that matters in video games. Most people liked it.
>>331295262
>implying everyone died at the same time
>>331295593
It's all good, once you're here long enough to realize it's not a myth, it will be too late for you to leave anyway.
>>331295678
Good because there wasn't an argument.
>>331295609
The story is trash. The sub plots, which include the phones, echos, missing agents, etc are good. The main story just feels like a basic "bad guys are bad because they are bad". I don't expect a good story from a loot game though, so having good sub-plots worth reading or listening to is impressive.
>>331295704
Dear god. I like the game but you're making me hate myself for it. Please stop
>fighting using modern weaponry against thugs and niggers
>bullet sponging headshots
And no I'm not buying this 'its an RPG' excuse shit anymore. Its a terrible fucking RPG. Fallout 4 is more of an RPG than the Division and Fallout 4 took out almost EVERYTHING that made it an RPG.
>>331295732
Oh the irony.
I've been here long enough to realize it's a myth, you're still a newfag who perpetuates bullshit to defend your shitty taste.
>>331295491
>A lot of people bought it therefore it is successful
You can have something that appeals to the masses and be a financial success, but could pale in comparison to past projects.
The division was made to seel, it doesn't mean its good.
>>331295820
Wut
I haven't even played The Division.
>>331295824
Why because you say so? Your opinion does not matter in the grand scheme of things. If a majority of people think something is good, it is good. If a majority of people think something is bad, it is bad. A minority of people thinking the opposite do not decide the quality of something. If almost everyone thinks MJ is the best of all time but 20 people don't think so, that doesn't make it any less true. It just makes those 20 people autistic.
>>331295801
No. A game is only as good as how many people think it is. This is the way it has to be.
>>331295874
Then why are you here defending it?
>>331295797
>Bad guys are bad because they are bad
Rioters are rioters. There will always be people who take advantage of disaster situations to spread chaos.
The Rikers are escaped criminals, so this makes sense as well.
Cleaners are a grey area of "ends justify the means." A lot of the collectibles explain their drive and beliefs. They believe themselves chaotic good would be a good explanation I supposem
>>331295989
I was just talking about the stupid picture trying to make /v/ look like it has any sense of whether a game is good or not.
>>331295704
The flaws are flaws that most people agree upon. Look at forums, reviews, even the subreddit. Just because people like it it doesn't mean the game is flawless.
The end game is bad. Relying on DZ as an endgame is a terrible decision because to get good items efficiently you have to dark zone, but a lot of people in dark zone have the best weapons, so you just get wrecked by people playing with their top builds and you can't extract. It leaves you to farming one mission on the hardest mode, and even then you won't get yellows. Not to mention you lose DZ levels and currency when you die.
Also the side missions are repetitive, for example the fixing pipe one was used 4-5 times, with the same exact sewer layout. The interesting ones with stories behind them though make up for it.
Another problem is server issues can really fuck you up. I lost 2 hours of progress because it said my account didn't sync with the server, so I had to revert to the last server save state. That shit sucked.
Other than that I like the game. I'm just not shill enough to call it perfect. A good game doesn't' have to be perfect
>>331295424
It seems implausible. The way radio man described it, the turbines were going to suffer a build up of pressure until they exploded, which would have taken out the surrounding neighbourhood.
I find it hard to believe that the steam/turbine system of a power plant would be designed with such tolerances that a steam pressure buildup could be allowed to occur to such a point where it caused an explosion big enough to destroy the entire power plant and surrounding area. Or that the only way to stop such a thing from happening would be to activate multiple valves placed far apart from each other. It seems the opposite of safe.
I get the reason for it, the mission itself was exciting, but it seems a bit goofy.
>>331295609
I do like the story elements, the side stuff, the general plot is interesting. Just there's occasional things which seem silly.
Like how in one minute you'll pick up a phone recording where a father listens helplessly to their son panicking as rioters break in and murder him, or an ECHO recording of some civilians being burned alive by Cleaners; then you'll unlock a safehouse and the quest giver there has a wacky gimmick like being a hippy or overly literal or constantly referencing the fact that they were on TV.
It's a bit like that weird disconnect in GTA games between a somewhat serious plot and the extreme parody of the world, but in a game like this it feels weirder.
>Rogue system is shit
>scaling is awful
>Phoenix Credit nerf shows how little they thought about the economy in everything
>little variation in enemy types and there is no way to really expand on it
>Challenge mode is dodging 1000 grenades and trying not to die to a shotgun guy
I wish this wasn't a Tom Clancy game, just so they could have literally done anything with the mechanics, the map and shit other than realistic enemies and scenario.
>>331296029
The problem with the story isn't that it's unreaslistic or not feasable. A game can be logically consistent while uninteresting and poorly written.
>>331295981
>>331295824
A game that is made to sell and successfully does so is a good game.
The Division has good (not stellar) tps mechanics, a great premise, a good story, great loot and an interesting setting. All of that and most people think it is a good game. How do you get to decide that it isn't?
>>331296147
No I understand, but I just feel you saying "bad guys are bad for the sake of being bad" was a bit unfair, because I feel a lot of their reasoning makes sense is all.
>>331296029
I had no problem with rioters and rikers. My main gripe was the cleaners, that's what really killed the story for me. Like I know you said they're supposed to be chaotic good in their opinion, but from what I'm seeing they're killing everyone and everything just because. Like even the echos or phones are just them killing people. It's too basic of a plot for main enemy. If they were like looters or rikers that turned into cleaners, I'd understand.
Even the division agent going rogue seemed to forced. Like he believed in leaving no man behind, and then in a matter of minutes or hours he just kills his fellow agents.
>>331296067
The picture is accurate though. /v/ has different opinions good and bad on games, "it's /v/ they hate everything" is a stupid argument to begin with.
>>331296247
Since you're such an expert. What's a game /v/ actually likes?
>>331296218
How is it unfair? "bad guys for the sake of being bad" is still valid criticism even if they technically have logical reasons to be bad.
>>331296196
You saying that it's good in everything aspect that you mentioned is literally your opinion. In fact, the loot and story is considered the worst part for people that like the game. I like the loot, but people see it as a treadmill, where if you don't keep up you'll fall deeper into the pit of obtaining the best loot because of DZ.
>>331296276
This is the part where I point out /v/ is not one person and you shitpost in response like a douche
>>331296338
>You saying that it's good in everything aspect that you mentioned is literally your opinion.
No it's not my opinion. If most people think a game is good, then the statement "most people think the game is good so it's a good game" is true.
>>331296346
I thought I was the newfag.
>>331294196
The game is awful, trash, and shit. I literally just got The Division for free a couple minutes ago. It was smeared all over the toilet paper. The game is shitty fucking garbage and blind sheep such as yourself will be the only ones to submit to shit.
>>331296407
You are the newfag.
>>331296196
>great premise
Not really. Smallbox hits Black Friday, people die. Some delusional people think they can take over New York City.
>good story
No. It doesn't even end, you kill a Colonel and the actual bad guy and the Russian escape.
>interesting setting
Its fucking New York
>great loot
The appearance shit isn't varied enough, because of its setting, and the actual gear loot barely changes your look. There is enough variety in guns but a big problem is they are all shit. No one is using shotguns, few people using LMBs.
>>331296113
Haha, I literally said that exact same thing a few days ago
>>331296393
ok, now you're just baiting. Good doesn't mean great, and if you think so you're retarded. Good still has it's flaws, but you saying those things are perfect is retarded. You want general consensus? Go read user reviews or even reviewer sites, you'll see there that people can agree there's problems with the games, even though it's a good one.
>>331296468
>>331296432
All wrong.
>>331296071
>The flaws are flaws that most people agree upon. Look at forums, reviews, even the subreddit.
Vocal minority. Their opinion doesn't matter. All that matters is that the game is a success and people think it's good.
>>331296503
It's not about baiting. It's about you being completely factually wrong about everything you've said
>>331296298
That doesn't make sense though.
If they have logical reasons for being bad, how is that bad for the sake of being bad?
>>331296237
I kind of like the lore and motivation behind the Cleaners; it isn't so much 'kill everything just because', so much as 'Manhattan is tainted, and we can't risk the virus leaving the island; this is a horrible thing we must do but it needs to be done and nobody else will do it.' The Cleaners never give off the impression that they're enjoying what they do.
>>331296593
My point is that they obviously have not touched the game or he would know simple shit like that. How can you argue against something without knowing anything about it?
>>331296526
Yeah yeah cry all you want your game fucking sucks. I went to my friend's house and watched him play it. IT was so FUCKING boring. F.U.C.K.I.N.G boring. Oh wow, a virus is killing everyone! HOW MANY FUCKING GAMES DID THAT ALREADY? You play as your own created faggot image of yourself, bland as ever, then you go do repetitive shitty fucking garbage missions over and over, same kinds of enemies, bullet sponges, my rectum is more interesting as a setting because it's literally just a dark uninteresting abandoned city that looks like shit. Multiplayer is shit. Everything is shit! Like what the fuck, do you roll around in shit and garbage?
The entire hivemind are in this thread.
>It's popular so I hate it!
Kek yourself then kill yourself
>>331296623
This.
Found a couple awesome audio logs from them.
One where a cleaner is talking to another about having to burn a kid.
Another where a cleaner's suit is comprised and his mates immediately fry him
>>331296276
/v/ typically has constructive discussion on games made for children, has threads about Bowser wearing diapers, and nearly unanimously praises turn based JRPG trash that is impossible to fail at and has the cringiest dialogue possible.
In essence, /v/ is one of the worst boards to discuss video games on of all time unless you're 12 or autistic.
>>331296701
see
>>331296712
You are part of the /v/ hivemind. You only hate the game because it's popular.
The game is a success and most people think it's good. How do you get to decide that it isn't? You don't. You're just part of the /v/ hivemind that hates everything and can't enjoy video games anymore.
>>331296393
>>331296196
>>331295916
And so on..
I think you're actually ad populum anon from earlier.
>>331296712
Oh really is that the response you and others give whenever anybody is bashing a game no matter what? because the game fucking sucks despite sheep mentality eating it up. like do you even understand how the world works? it runs on stupid. people are easily brainwashed because they don't have power, so why do you think all these shitty companies who sell shit products even go anywhere? BECAUSE YOU BUY THEM. YOU BOUGHT THE DIVISION. OH SHIT MAN THE DIVISION YOU PLAY AS A GUY AND VIRUSUS, OH MAN GOTTA GET THIS MAH BOI. FAGGOT
>>331296791
My point exactly.
>>331296819
I'm just saying what this guy said >>331296791
>>331296850
and you see.
>>331296817
I am not part of the hivemind. I have been here longer than you and I just know how everything goes. The game is fucking DUMB and it's garbage you fuck.,
>>331296850
I'd >>>/pol/ you but I think you need to take a break for 4chan entirely. This site's influence really isn't good for autistic people.
>>331296850
Was this meant to be bait?
>>331296923
This site is containment for autistic people
>>331296901
You are part of the hivemind. The /v/ hivemind that hates everything.
It's all good, once you're here long enough to realize you're part of the hivemind, it will be too late for you to leave anyway.
>>331281179
Endgame is thin. Too thin. And fuck this shoot gunners
>>331296979
Name a single video game community on the internet that is not a containment for autistic people
>>331297032
Patapon
>>331296923
I'm not autistic but you're definitely retarded for using a word you don't understand just because 4chan does it. Oh, wait, that's because you're part of the hivemind. You constradicting motherfucking garbage eating faggot. You don't need to "pol" me, shut the fuck up. The game fucking sucks, and that is how the world works basically.
>>331296985
I've been here almost a year since this site has been up. Let me tell you it fucking changed so much. But you faggots are still the same. Stop with the newfag insults, it's as if that's what anybody goes for now in any argument because it's so fucking easy to throw out there.
>>331297032
Minecraft
>>331296739
I like the chatter and logs you hear from the enemies, like the radio messages you intercept if you hover over mission icons.
Again, there are some dumb things in the story: I just remembered one from the beginning of the game, where you have to prevent the rioters bombing open the floodgates in the Lincoln tunnel, which would destroy the tunnel and flood everything. And they thought this was a good idea because?
(if you were charitable though you could just explain that as the rioters being fucking idiots, I guess)
>>331296452
see
>>331296791
>>331296923
>>331296901
leave while you still can.
>>331297073
>I've been here since the site has been up a year**
fuck you guys. I'm sick of listening to the /v/ hivemind bitch about how every videogame ever is terrible. All my casual friends are buying this for xbox, and fuck it if it's not a fun game, my friends are playing it so I'm going to play it too. And even if it's bad, I'll be having fun with them.
People everywhere just want to buy on the opposite end of whats popular. So much so that they start to believe what they want to believe. So you're pretty much hipsters
>I've been here since the site has been up a year**
>>331297032
I dunno, I don't really go to many other places anymore.
So, largely conjecture
Ign
Gamefaqs
Only places I can think of off the top of my head. Never been to gaf, so I honestly can't say on that one.
>>331285943
You can also get it free with a Logitech keyboard
>>331297239
which one? Is it a cheap one?
>>331297184
Nobody said anything about anything else but that the game fucking blows. The game fucking blows, but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy blowing, you faggot. Go play with your friends like any other person would, especially for a shitty game. If my friends bought that garbage, which they wouldn't (except for one dumbass who buys every single new game) because they know it's just generic shit that 60$ could be spent on something way fucking better.
>>331297184
CRY CRY CRY
CRY MORE CUNT
>>331297032
>Ign
>Gamefaqs
>not a containment for autistic people
Wrong answer.
>Enter DZ
>3 guys walk up to me and ask what's up
>Immediately start shooting me after
>Retards geared up purely for DPS
>Just scratch my tank build
>Drop them all in 2 shots each with my shotty
Why are casuals so shit at MMOs?
>>331297119
I don't really remember that one very well. Story wise anyway. I remember trying to clear it with a pug on challenging though. Was unpleasant.
The rioters were really given the least amount of love. There's some interesting audio logs from one guy calling his brother and that's about it. I really need to find all the collectibles at some point.
Why are there so fucking many though
>>331297342
meant for >>331297235
>>331297347
How did you drop them if you're running a tank build?
>>331297342
They both seem like their populations are largely normies.
Is that not the case anymore? Like I said, don't really go to them anymore
>>331297184
Just say you want to play with your friends and don't mind spending money on a shitty game, no need to defend your taste to anyone
>>331297184
Don't bother anon, it's typical /v/ faggotry.
If a game becomes popular at all, everyone feels the instant need to hope on the hate bandwagon so they can feel like they fit in, seriously, /v/ is worse than /pol/ when it comes to containment boards.
>>331297456
Pulse+smart cover to buff the fuck outta crits and damage output
>>331297374
>the rioter recording where one hood tries to mug a group of kids at gunpoint and the kids draw on him, and beat him up with a bat; and he complains about how society has gone down the tubes
>>331297302
You might want to try reading next time, instead of just... Whatever the fuck you did there.
I obviously did judge the game on it's merits.
I played it.
I loved it.
I saw that the company that made it was incredibly proud of it.
I saw the critics and fans loved it.
The /v/ hivemind hates it, for no other reason than it's popular.
It's the same shit you get in Dark Souls threads. Every DS thread is shitposted to death with either "Demons souls was better!111!" or "Artificial difficulty!"
Every XCom thread is shitposted to death with "Da old Xcom was betta!11"
Every Division thread is shitposted by retards like you with "THE GAME FUCKING BLOWS! I HATE IT!"
Why do you hate it?
Because it's popular.
>>331297492
>ahahaha I'm much better than him, I'm so much better than anyone, that's why I have no friends, I have patrician-tier taste even though I can't relate to actual, normal people. Fuck having friends, all I need is myself and 4chan. Yeah, that'll teach 'em
>>331297551
See? This shit is frustrating though. There's a lot of great shit in the collectibles.
Why are they in the collectibles?
>>331297471
They're largely "normies" in the same way youtube comments are largely "normies"
Anyone who claims gamefaqs is not a cesspit of autisim is completely full of shit.
>>331297585
I like old and new xcom though
ITT: People complaining that their friends are having fun playing a game and they haven't found a fun one yet
>>331281179
>What's the /v/erdict?
>>331297510
Seriously, /v/ is pretty much a cesspit, blatantly called a containment board by other boards on 4chan. Its hate for Division is fueled by its popularity and likely some fucking tribalism because it's full of hackers on peecee.
>>331297691
this really can't be the norm though right?
Or is it just that all mlp fags play vidya? Idk
>>331297641
Because people don't know how to include plot elements and world building into games any more so they fart audio logs all over the map?
I'm just glad this stuff is in there. I liked the story things that Massive did with World In Conflict and I think at least some of that carries over to this game.
>>331297691
"not little girls"
holy shit how can someone be this delusional.
>>331297585
>the fans loved it
holy tautology batman
>the company that made it was proud of it
do you think a company would let any of it's people say they weren't?
>the critics loved it
The critics are pandering to your average videogame reader, assuming /v/ plays more games than your average person, don't you think their tastes might be different?
>It's the same shit you get in Dark Souls threads. Every DS thread is shitposted to death with either "Demons souls was better!111!" or "Artificial difficulty!"
I mean there's a thread on the front page which proves this wrong right now
Smells like marketer t bh
>>331297852
Maybe? I blame the casual audience. The majority don't want to deal with any extraneous story.
Bioshock did it and got praise. Now it's the defacto method.
>sucking dick is popular
>/v: "sucking dick sucks"
I amK E K I N G
>>331297886
Well, the show creator (lauren... faust I want to say?) did kinda say that it's not mono target audience, at least definitely not since the start.
I used to hate mlp fans as much as anyone else but honestly I'm so sick of all the cynical bullshit that the fact that they just earnestly enjoy something is refreshing to me now.
>>331297949
I disagree
Looks more like leddit
Also, BB was better
>>331297585
Do you honestly think I just hate it because it's popular?
Look at the fucking game itself dude. It's been done before, better, much better, multiple god damn fucking times. Everything is bland, and I'm not just saying "bland" because that's all there is to say, it fucking is. The city has some detail but it's boring, you see the same enemies over and over being bullet sponges. Story is just plain, garbage. Missions aren't fun. Guess what? It's the same fucking thing we've played before. It's nothing new. You're eating this shit up like it's gold and you think I'm the bad guy. You have really fucking bad taste in games, man. It's Watchdogs all over again. It's only popular because the masses are actually retarded people who will buy anything popular, like dudebros and their girlfriends, and middle aged faggots who want to play with their sons. The game sucks hard.
>>331297632
When did I say I didn't too?
>>331298030
Yeah, but did she say that before or after she had a bunch of bronies frothing at the bit for more
>>331297949
>>331298089
I see you're ignoring all the people saying they've played the Division and still enjoyed the hell out of it.
Here's a running commentary for you.
The only people who hate the Division are hipsters like you that hate it because it's popular.
Whether it's the best shooter ever or not, it's far, far from the worst.
Ubisoft have said many times it's the game they always wanted to make, it's was to be their magnum opus.
The critics loved it.
The fans loved it.
Only you hate it..., because everyone else loved it. You are the /v/ hivemindStay strong anon. Good games aren't allowed to be talked about! You must shitpost those games instead!
>>331281179
I like it personally, but I can see it getting dull eventually. So far the most fun I've had has involved running around the DZ with friends and switching between dicking people out of their gear and hunting down rogues. It's like DayZ but fun.
>>331298105
She obviously said it after the show had aired because how else could she answer that question? why would it even be asked?
But it's besides the point, the person who decides who the target audience is has said that it's not just aimed at little girls. Nearly nothing in fiction that the author says matters, but this is one of those things that you can generally assume what they say is right, even if just because them saying that inherently makes it slightly more true due to the change of perception.
I want everyone ITT to know that I am playing Division and enjoying it. And there is absolutely nothing any of you can do to stop me. I'm having fun.
inb4 but you're eating shit and liking it
If this is what shit tastes like, okay.
>>331298089
>Irrationally hates Division
>Thinks he has superior taste
kek
>>331298234
> 2 hours later
> "what else can i play besides the division?"
A (vocal shitposting) majority of /v/ doesn't buy vidya for games anymore. It buys vidya for status symbol.
Because having fun on your own just for the heck of it isn't enough anymore. You have to prove to everyone you have the most superior taste in your choice past time, however irrelevant it may be. You can't buy a game that'll make you look bad in the crowd, oh no, that'll hinder your /v/ cred
>>331298146
I see you're cutting into my chain like a wannabe heroic faggot who thinks he has something good to say. Guy said I hate it cause it's popular, so I said no, it sucks, but you can enjoy shit if you like. There is a summary, looks like you didn't read it all because you're just one of those GUYS who come in to recap the same shit from the beginning of the thread which has already been addressed.
The people who hate The Division are anybody with a brain capable of understanding the game has been done multiple times before, without letting the critics, reviewers, and "fans(you)", brainwash them, just like any other shitty game that comes out. I think /v/ has a general good idea on when a game is not shit. Like Black Ops 3 is a pretty nice Call of Duty game and most of them have been shit. You keep repeating yourself, but you're literally part of the masses, the biggest hivemind.
You don't belong here, and take your embarrassing smug pictures with you.
>>331298146
I like how you were blantanly wrong in your first post and are now resorting to calling people who don't like something that's popular a bunch of hipsters
>>331298353
>implying I haven't poured over 40 hours into this game
Your opinion means shit m8. Go circlejerk with the rest of the /v/ hivemind.
>>331298353
this
There is literally no other big game out now to enjoy
Im waiting on Blood and Wine but that will only quench my thirst for a week maybe.
>>331298216
Well yeah, but my point is she didn't really have much choice in the matter did she?
She could say it's a show for kids and alienate a chunk of their fanbase, and specifically a chunk that spends a lot of money on merchandise.
Or say it's for multiple demographics and exonerate that same faction from the evil online communities?
Basically, it was a matter of choosing to like money
>>331298372
>being this dramatic
>>331298372
this place has always and forever will be the way it is. this place will never, ever, ever, be accepting of shitty games that come out, that you like to enjoy. if you want to discuss shitty games do it with your casual ass friends. this place isn't like reddit. you aren't going to have a fun little conversation with your anons about stupid fucking games. well, you can, but you have to be great at ignoring.so something tells me this thread is full of fucking newfags.
>>331298483
>Well yeah, but my point is she didn't really have much choice in the matter did she?
Yes, she could have said "no, I'm happy you guys are enjoying it, but I really am focusing on this market" and they'd still watch the show, all her shows have been generally more "for everyone" anyway.
>>331298392
>>331298441
>waah the game is shit waaah
I believe you are pieces of human garbage for being a mean spirited pile of shit, but whatever, enjoy dying alone.
There is a point where that attitude of yours will make you a miserable bitter cunt, and you will simply get mad at people for having fun. You don't know any better, you are just garbage.
Also it is an honest opinion. It is not trash, it is what anyone would had come to expect from ubisoft, a great open world game that has a few things that made it worth playing as long you don't go in with the /v/edditor hivemind mentality.
I knew this from the start and I was perfectly fine with it, I have been playing a lot of challenging games, and on top of that I have been busy at work, so a casual game was right up my alley.
Jesus Christ, most of /v/ cult classics are horridly broken, and mechanically buggy games, and you need to be very fucking forgiving to have any fun. STALKER for example or Fallout New Vegas, I love those games but I can see how a cunt like you would get assblasted the moment the game crashed on you, you would come to /v/ to whine like a faggot because because the game you played was not the religious experience you sought.
>>331298372
Why are you so convinced that a bunch of people who play games more than often than others might have different tastes than them?
I like the game.
I like the game
>>331298564
This is it, here we go, you moved the goal post so guess what? I'm not reading your post! Haha!
I wonder how it feels to have typed all that, and I only read the first sentence. You told me something completely and attackingly irrelevant to everything said. The game is garbage, has nothing to do with my life you fucking loser ass piece of shit. Enjoy your shitty game.
>people dislike something other people like
>both sides for some reason feel like they're being judged for their tastes and get defensive
/v/ discussions in a nutshell.
>>331298593
>implying /v/ plays games
kek
>>331298564
answer
>>331298593
>>331298524
>implying /v/ doesn't have just as shit taste as those places, just with different games.
/v/ has the shittiest taste of all
people like you make /v/ shit
>>331298661
I too wish it was 2009 again, anon
>>331298651
>I totally didn't read your post haha!
I know you did. Don't lie.
THe /v/ hive mind like to complain about anything. That's what this place is made for, a shithole for shitposters like you. Enjoy being a sad cunt with no friends.
I just told my friends that I am not playing The Vision with them anymore because 4chan thinks it's a bad game. Have I done everything right?
I haven't played the dailies yet. Please tell me the challenging isn't fucking Russian embassy again? Fucking impossible with pug
>>331298735
/v/ spends way more time shitposting about games they never played than actually playing them
>>331298524
/v/ is like leebit or however the fuck that site is named that /v/ hates so much.
As far as i know they hate the site because they have a boat system (i guess they mean they have some kind of rate system of comments) or some shit and it causes a hivemind and they spout memes and shit like that.
Yet /v/ is a fucking hivemind, people come here, they see people rehashing threads after threads and wanting EVERY SINGLE FUCKING GAME to fail or say its shit, and using buzzwords to describe why is shit without even playing it.
I seen people just spouting the same shit opinion some anon wrote here some days ago and use it as an argument, then when asked in-depth review of why it sucks, they just back into a corner and start saying "but it just sucks, gameplay and shit"
And also with the memes, /v/ even if they dont want to admit it, they fucking use memes, insde memes but they are fucking annoying
I been here for 6 years now, shit has changed, i hate this fucking place and people who browse with me yet i dont have anywhere to go.
This game is good, it had a gameplay that did its job better than other AAA games, the story and atmopshere was the focus of the game and it did a good god damn job of using it.
People are hating on ubisoft for no reason. They have done nothing to deserve this, They have made a critically acclaimed video game series.
>LOL DIVISION IS POPULAR GOT TO HATE IT
>>331287128
>ywn play an ending where jtf teams up with Joe ferro and Charlie bliss to eradicate the dollar flu
>>331298770
Nope, I honestly did not read your post. As soon as I ended the first sentence, I knew what the rest was. And there you go again, saying I have no friends when I do indeed have friends, and a girlfriend. I came in this thread with people arguing about this shitty game, so I jumped in because why not, it's fun making fun of fucking losers like you who like stupid ass games. Afraid of criticism and shit, the fuck you think this place is. Reddit is thata way bitch.
>>331298948
I just got done with this >>331298953
So you can go ahead and read that. I'm not reading your post though. I'm about to be done with this thread after this posts, fuck that.
>>331298827
>a screencap where one guy posts something wrong and is likely b8 and gets called out for it
>proving that /v/ doesn't play games
I mean it really proves that they do, or that post wouldn't have that many replies
>>331298953
>I totally didn't read your post I swear!
You're not convincing anyone. It's obvious you read it and are now butthurt.
Hating reddit is pretty much a meme as well. Most people don't understand why they use it as an insult, they just know that telling people to go reddit when you disagree with them is the hip thing to do when you're part of the /v/ hivemind.
>>331298948
Are you going to answer why people who play games more than others can't have different tastes?
>>331298821
usually a different one every day, think it resets at 4pm.
>>331299075
In the simplest terms people just love to have that "Holier than thou" sense that you get from criticising something popular. At the same time it gives people a chance to be all nostalgic and demonstrate their "superior taste" by talking up a game that literally everyone in this thread has played, in a way these threads a lot like/mu/. All the while you have people who hate anything that's AAA come out and criticise the shit out of it along with that you have the /v/ hivemind and other such faggots criticising it because it has the audacity to think it's a good game. Honestly given all that I'd be more surprised if it wasn't getting shit in every thread
>>331299005
>i haven't read your posts
>but I still feel compelled to reply anyway!
Top kek
>>331299019
>/v/ posting and replying proves that /v/ plays video games
Whatever you say /v/
>>331299172
Have you considered that they have played things which have deeper gameplay, better atmosphere/writing, more original mechanics and don't want to spend their time on an unoriginal treadmill?
>>331298953
>I do indeed have friends, and a girlfriend
>>331281179
TPS cover shooter with bullet sponges which is very fun to play with random matchmade groups.
I'm really enjoying it. I think going Rogue needs a bit of a buff but not by a large margin.
I thought I wouldn't enjoy it as a friendless loser but have matchmade every mission and most DZ sessions and it's worked out well.
Best sandboxish world I've seen. Miles better than anything else out right now.
I really hope the whole thing gets used for DZ in the future. Seems pointless to only use a map like this for dull sidequest content when most of the playerbase will be lvl 30.
>>331299305
I kek'd
Playing Division is more fun than whining about Division
'weeeergh the gameplay isn't deep enough werrrrr I'm sensitive to people doing things I don't like and have to find people to argue with about these thing to help me rationalize my lonely existence werrrrrgh how dare they upset me the king of vidya in my very domain with their oh so unorignal mechanics, le reddit muflips shop da wap barrel roll double rainbow pedo bear rage guy grumpy cats HE weeeerrrrgh I'll never create a single worthwhile thing with my time in my whole life and it scares me weeeerhghh sniff sniff suck my dick faggot you are one if the dulermurnabbi SJWS (or SHE-JEWS) trying to RUIN MY FUCKINF LIFE LIKE MY MOM AND SCHOOL AND SOCIETY AND EVERYONE ELSE werrrrrrrrrrrg theyd made this game more like super mario rpg'
You guys should seek professional help, life can get better maybe
>>331299413
>life can get better maybe
For the type of person it takes to regularly browse /v/ and consider it a "community" they are "part of," I doubt it.
>>331299413
Great post, you've #rekt me, you've convinced me that your game is fun and deep and that I'm a lonely loser who should give 60 dollars to a bad company in exchange for a shallow game. I also no longer hate women :) 10/10 post addresses the one you replied to yessir
>>331299668
why are you so butthurt about this video game? Let people enjoy their games fuck
Can /v/ even have an opinion on something that isn't completely jaded and cynical?
>>331299101
I know, I'm just hoping it's not that particular one today. That's not a mission where you can just have one geared player. Fucking opens with suicide shotguns and no cover/retreat space.
Conversely also the best mission, because you know in the first 5 minutes if it's doable with your group
>>331299704
>getting this bootytickled that someone is calling out your shitposting
>>331299704
It matters an awful lot to him that you only discuss video games that he wants to discuss because it makes him feel like his opinion is worth something(which it isn't) and allows him for the first, and probably only, time in his life to feel as if he has power or control over the whims of other human beings.
You can only imagine the type of person it takes to create a vapid cunt with a superiority complex like the ones that frequent /v/.
It's sad, really, because any number of hobbies could arguably justify being a sophist about but video games sure as shit isn't one of them.
Especially since you can go to any other board on 4chan and get better video game discussion.
>>331299840
>getting this fanny flustered that people enjoy video games you hate irrationally
>>331299804
>implying v is one person
And no. Because it's weebs, casuals, indiefags, etc.
>>331299893
>his game is so much fun he'd rather try and convince mysoginist turbovirgins on internet about how good it is, even after stating many times that they were just a hivemind that the game wasn't bad
I wish my games were that fun
>>331300014
>YOUR FUN IS FAKE STOP ENJOYING IT JUST READ MY OBJECTIVE REASONS WHY THE FUN YOU ARE EXPERIENCING IS FAKE PLEASE STOP IT!!".
/v/ doesn't like any kind of video game. This is a place for normalfags who can't be normal due to social anxiety come to hugbox and share feels before crying yourselves to sleep. You only play video games to escape your misery and don't actually enjoy playing them
>>331299882
Seriously, there isn't a single fucking game that /v/ hasn't tried to ruin.
I mean, I'm almost impressed by how much arrogance and ignorance is festering in this board for this many years. I couldn't make a list of all the games that I like and they don't. A list of the games they do like would be much shorter. Oh wait they don't like any.
Sometimes /v/ shows me games I just don't EVER read what the hi/v/mind has to say about them cause its normally just "hur dur worse than hitler, ded game, its over X is finished."
This is going to sound like bait, and I promise I don't mean it to.
But after being in countless Division threads, not engaging just lurking through everyone's conversations, I've genuinely come to the conclusion that most people on /v/ are either too jaded, too entitled, or too stupid to admit what a great game this is.
It's not the "citizen kane" of gaming, and I don't really know if I agree that it's the "best game of all time", but I will certainly say that it's special. It tells a special story about it's characters, tells it well, and give you a really good game to go with it, which is pretty rare when you really think about it. It's a pretty great game that's fun to play. Which is really what playing games is all about at the end of the day. Having fun.
But this /v/. I don't expect to have decent conversation with the hi/v/mind here anymore.
>>331299882
Find a post where I discouraged discussion about the game, and the find a post where you actually discussed playing it in any sort of detail
>>331300148
I like how you're still not playing your game and instead decide to argue with someone who you have concluded is a retarded, pretentious cynic.
>>331299305
That's all subjective. People obviously love things like GTAV, CoD, Fallout 4, Division etc. They're breaking sales records proving that there are people who prefer them. Gaming isn't going anywhere, it's just phasing people like you out.
>>331300675
answer>>331298593
>>331300781
I don't need to answer that. Proof is in the pudding. Your opinions are irrelavent as the industry disregards you and more and more people flock to games you don't like. All your posturing and your oh so developed "taste" won't change a thing.
>>331300920
>I wont need to answer that
kek, why are you afraid of a question?
>>331300995
How am I afraid of your loaded questioning? I'm just stating facts.
>>331301061
>eat french fries your whole life
>some guy wants you to eat some generic fries and pay for it
>no I don't like those french fries
>fugging hipster why don't you like french fries, more people are buying these generic fries all the time why aren't you eating them you lonely virgin
:^)
>>331301206
>food analogy
>i am silly
Ok anon, you can go jerk off to your superior developed tastes while the rest of us actually enjoy playing video games.
