>just bought an R9 390 as replacement
>never used an AMD card, only Nvidia
>worried about no Gameworks or PhysX
What am I in for?
Is AMD really as bad as /v/ makes it seem?
>>331263193
Good luck running anything beyond 720p
Should have bought a 980
390 is a fine card.
t. asus980 owner
>>331263317
meme
>>331263193
Have fun with your new heater.
>>331263193
I got one a few weeks ago, its great
I have a 390 and it's better than the 970
overall a great gpu
>>331263193
prepare for driver hell. As in no fucking drivers, and tons of incompatibilities with everything.
>>331263193
Best performance for value. Good choice.
>>331263630
Name a few senpai
>>331263630
I can't believe The Division is still broken. I'm gonna take my Fury X back.
What the fuck was I thinking going AMD
>>331263756
I think the division is broken on Nvidia cards as well as console versions
>>331263716
anything made before 2010, all the latest releases for the couple weeks after release, and anything with Nvidia Frameworks.
as nicely seen here >>331263756
It was the same with Red Orchestra 2, Serious Sam 3, and quite a few other titles few years ago.
>>331263630
Nvidia drivers are shit lately..I regret my 970...
>>331263193
>first time making a PC
>buy this card
Is there any programs I should download, AMDbros? I already downloaded the Crimson software.
Everyone tries AMD at least once. It's a learning experience. It teaches you about buyer's remorse and how much extra money you'd be willing to pay to get a GPU that had actual working drivers. Once you try AMD, you're an Nvidia buyer for the rest of your life. It's good to remember why Nvidia crushed AMD into the dust.
>>331264032
Nvidia isn't good as it used to be see
>>331263873
It's the same in hitman and quite likely many future titles since 900 series architecture isn't compute based and doesn't take advantage of the new apis.
>>331264103
Fucking this.
Nvidia could easily crush AMD, but they keep them around to show just how bad they are and how amazing Nvidia cards are.
>>331264060
Just crimson my good man,enjoy :)
>>331264060
MSI Afterburner
>>331264032
Tell me about it
I bought a kepler 700 series and now am being shit on by nvidia
Good to see the 900 series cucks are also getting their due
Anyone who buys nvidia is retarded
>>331264212
Thanks friend.
Curious, should I download GPU Tweak ll?
>>331264103
Expect I'm much happier with my 290 than my old 670, but keep memeing.
What are you replacing? A drawing of a GPU? lmbo
>>331263193
I'm just going to wait for the next generation of cards, but I'm going to change to AMD.
>>331263193
I love it.
>>331263193
i have a msi 390 and its really nice
i play at 1080p144hz and im able to run any game i throw at it
nice upgrade anon
>>331263873
Serious Sam 3 works for me.
>>331264315
Never used it mate. aslong as it doesnt conflict with crimson i shouldnt see any reason not to though :)
>>331264867
yeah it obviously works NOW, but during release (5 years ago) there was tons of whining about game not launching or having bad framerate on AMD cards. All while my 560ti had no issues running it all high at 1200p.
>have an R9 390 and an i3
>all games perform like shit
Should have fucking bought Nvidia...
>>331265000
I had no problem playing it back in 2011 on my 6850.
>>331263193
I have a 390x and I can run all games at ultra+.
>>331263193
asus make shit coolers for AMD
>>331263630
>>331263317
>>331263756
>>331263873
>>331264196
>>331264103
Can we please stop this nvidiaposting meme, it's retarded, unfunny and you're just spreading misinformation and utter nonsense for no good reason. Kill yourselves.
>>331264060
You can overclock with the game profiles in Cirmson, it is called AMD Overdrive.
>>331265061
>i3
>>331263193
I also have an R9 390. And like everyone else ITT I get paid a commission every time I mention it on /v/ or Reddit.
>>331265061
>i3
>Dual-core
>>331265061
Upgrade to atleast an i7
>>331265258
What's your commission? I was getting $0.07 for every post I mentioned the 970.
>>331263486
and yet amd runs cooler than Nvidia
nice bait kid
>>331264103
check out this flopping
having a 390X and trouncing all the Nvidia cards is great
enjoy your $1000 1070 with GDDR5 kek
>>331263554
>72c
Hot af
>>331263486
That is not true anymore.
I'll use this thread to ask a question of my own. I've had a 970 for a little less than a year now and I have some cash to spend. Is SLI worth it?
>>331263193
>worried abouy gimmick functions that provide very little in game physical interaction to chatacters.
Once u grow up from that, you'll start to love AMD cards.
I fell for the agiea meme, i fell for thr nvidia phsyx meme, i fell for thr tressFX meme. Now i just dont care, amd provides the best bang for buck now. Unless nvidia have best bang of buck yeah go nvidia.
>>331264808
same here shit based
no GeForce experience crap or shadow play crashing constantly, not to mention Nvidia's bad drivers as of late. They're blowing it.
>>331265061
kill you self moron
>>331264285
>mfw I bought a 980
>>331265846
actually that's well within normal operating temps for a gpu, and I took that SS while under gaming load
>>331265846
stop your jealous is showing
>>331265940
Cfx or sli are never a guarenteed "enjoyable" experience for early game adopters. Be ready only able to play your game stable after a few long months of release cuz only then you get mature sli/cfx drivers for the game.
If lucky, your game works like diamond first relase, then accidentally some new patch might fuck it up and make things worse.
>>331263193
why didn't you pick the sapphire one, fuck man
>>331265846
my gtx 780 runs 80c so what.
>Pascal comming out soon
>Nvidia is slowly killing off their stable cards
>Nvidia cards that should be better then AMD cards run like shit now
>people are finally starting to wake up and see they have been doing this for years
I told you fags that they weren't gonna give a fuck about supporting older cards as soon as the next gen is announced but you wouldn't listen
>>331264285
I paid 700+ dollars for my gtx 780ti
and I cant run the latest games in ultra.
Tell me about it.
>>331266421
that's a bit too much dude, try using Speedfan to change the fan speed manually,
asus is kind of shit for amd
sapphire is best in cooling, but will jew you out rebates
msi is best overall
xfx has the best warranty but their cards have had shitty vram cooling lately
powercolor has the best price and pretty good cooling but you basically have to go through hell to RMA if you get a shit card since their US office is basically nonexistent
for asus you literally just paid for an nvidia cooler slapped onto an amd card
and also you probably paid extra for it.
>>331266704
GTX 700 specs said that is normal under load.
Max temp is +90c.
>>331266759
XFX is only good for USA.
Everywhere else they have a standard 2 year warranty.
PowerColor is alright in APAC and is generally the easiest to get along with for RMA.
MSI warranty in APAC (except China) is garbage.
>>331266640
>Fags with 7870s are still going to be playing vidya for another 2 years with their four year old cards
amd is it's own worst enemy
>>331266664
why didn't you buy the 980 ti?
>>331267193
Not really, they still sell Pitcarin...
So the 7870/270/370 owners can buy second card for crossfire,
>>331266759
sapphire r9 390 cost less than the msi my dude
>>331267341
Because that was a 6 months before the 900 series was out.
I'm not going to spend 700+ dollars every single year.
>>331263193
I have the same but Msi. Its fuckin awesome. But be sure to look AA supersampling at 4x.
>>331265193
asus has twin frozers on most of thier cards dumb nigger. /v/ is never right about anything at all.
>>331267857
And surprise surprise, they work like shit. Look at the benchmarks, Asus always comes last.
every single thing the nvidiots have said in itt is wrong without exception. nvidiots are the worst.
>>331267341
oy vey you must buy the newest flagship card
>>331267975
twin frozers cool the entire board to keep the pcb tems down. also bullshit.
>>331264032
>Nvidia drivers are shit lately
Lately? For the past few years Nvidia has had quite a few really fucking shit drivers with all sorts of issues with drivers nuking GPUs every now and again. It's just that they have incredibly amazing focus group members on basically every large tech forum posting damage control to make people believe that everything is fine.
>>331263193
Why AMD doesn't have something like this case. This is really sexy but AMD cards looks like shit.
>>331267193
dx12 shows noticible performance increases all the way back to the 7800 series cards. Nvidia wont see any improvement whatsoever.
>>331268257
Because your case should have a solid side panel so good heatsink/fan design is vastly more important than design.
You do have a solid sidepanel and not one of those "gaming cases", right?
>>331267724
then don't complain, it's not like you got some kind of superior high-end gpu, ofc you won't be able to play every new game maxed out
>>331268257
I buy pretty video cards too. I also wipe my dogs butt when he's done pooping. I cant believe people think I'm weird for this. I cant be the only one.
>>331263193
My 390 shits on everything, fucking everything, at 1440p.
Don't worry about nvidia shills, OP. Just as bad as sony fanboys.
>>331263193
> not getting a 970 instead
Enjoy your housefire.
>>331268071
yeah, since you're going to spend so much at least buy something decent
>>331268197
I never updated my old GTX 560ti driver from 2012 because the newer one always fucked up my game
>>331263756
>I can't believe The Division is still broken. I'm gonna take my Fury X back.
I've been playing The Division on my Fury X with no problems.
>>331268582
>Nvidiacucks still use old meme
At least make it about the power efficiency if you are gonna try
>>331266759
everthing in this post is bullshit except xfx having a bad warranty. xfx is a garbage manufacturer in everything they make including motherboards.
>>331268319
So I fucked up when I bought a 970?
>>331268415
So you change computer every year anon?
>>331263630
R9 390 user here. No problems so far in about 6 month of usage. Pretty solid card. I was scared about the temp issue but this babe runs a smooth 50-60 while gaming. Sometimes up to 70 if its modded games.
>>331268586
spending more on your video card than you can get a decent computer for is pretty fucking stupid desu.
>>331268319
Yes that was my point anonymous. Current amdfags will just keep using their current cards instead of buying new ones.
>>331268787
you fucked up when you chose nvidia.
>>331263193
That's a great graphic card if you're planning on playing at 1080p.
>>331268415
>Nvidia logic
You really like to sucks dicks don't you?
>>331268787
amd does optimizations to increase the life of your hardware nvidia gimps its 2 year old cards through drivers because of planned obsolescence. thye are the shadiest company to ever make computer components.
>>331268787
Well you're fine for the new couple years, but presently it's looking like amd cards will get a lot more of a lifespan boost.
>>331268787
If you did your research before buying, you'd learn about the 3.5....
>>331269010
"GUYS PLS I SPENT 2000 ON A PC IN 2008 WHY CAN'T I RUN ALL NEW GAMES MAXED OUT, THIS IS SO UNFAIR NVIDIA IS SHIT"
i use AMD btw
>>331268973
so you agree amd makes much more powerful cards at that price point. I would be surprised if you actually admit this desu.
>>331269062
>nvidia gimps its 2 year old cards through drivers
How is that not illegal?
>>331263193
Eh, I've had an AMD R9 390 since October and it's been great. Killing The Witcher 3, and pretty much every other game is less demanding than that, so yeah...granted I only play on 1080p but my friend has a 390x for 1440p and it works great.
Think I should upgrade?
>>331269143
I bought it before 3.5.
>>331269232
Average Nvidia user aren't exactly the smartest people
>>331269156
I can run gtaV ultra with just a couple setting turned down a bit on a 7850. so really theres no reason you shouldn't expect to run games all the way up to the new gen of consoles with no problem on newer amd cards.
>>331268870
if you're going to spent so much money that probably mean that you don't want just a "decent" computer my dude, seems kinda obvious
>>331269232
Because no one caught them on time to make a huge stink out of it/PR. Most game reviews are honestly shit. It took someone to accidentally re-benchmark old games with new drivers and compare the results to old benchmarks to notice that their performance had dropped.
>>331269232
Because technology is too new for current laws to govern over. Laws were made to govern over humans, not technology. Hence the reason why Nvidia can get away with all sorts of shady shit.
>>331269162
Amd is butter than Nvidia as expected.
>>331268415
the 780ti was the best card out there, what is high end compared to that?
>>331269339
>I bought it before 3.5.
You're a fucking retard. That shit launched with 3.5.
>>331269409
I bet he has an i3. nvidiots are pretty damned stupid when it comes to computer hardware.
>>331263193
too late to ask. find out for yourself.
>>331269571
I thought that scandal broke after? People knew about this at launch?
>>331269571
nope, 3.5 wasnt found out until like 2 or 3 months later
>>331269370
No they don't, just look at the nvidia forums.
For every complain there is always a bunch of guys defending nvidia.
They are just OK with buying a new card every year.
>he doesn't have two 390s
>>331269376
dude, i just watched a video of a guy playing gta with that gpu, he had everythin on medium-high, with a lot of stuff turned off and couldn't evern reach 60 fps
So there's 1.7%, pork shoulders, wood screws, 3.5GB and the various drivers killing GPUs over the years, defects on mobile chipsets but there's another incident that I can't recall the name of that involved capacitors on the 8000 or 9000 series cards IIRC. Anyone recall the name?
>>331269450
>Because no one caught them on time to make a huge stink out of it/PR
Oh they caught them early on all right. It's just that no benchmark review website will ever say anything bad about nvidia because they lose their free review cards if they make nvidia look bad. Nvidia pretty much bribes lots of benchmark websites free review cards.
>>331263193
my bro bought one, it's pretty good. i'm still rocking an old nvidia 750. it gets the job done but im going to change it soon for an r9 390 or a 980
Anons, my AMD R9 390 AA doesn't seem to do anything. ie changing the AA options in amd catalyst or crimson hasn't had any noticeable effect. Any tips?
>>331269767
Nope. People were talking about it in the forums after the first week. Those slow websites picked it up after 2-3 months.
>>331264808
Same on the MSi 390. Love it, my friend has a Sapphire but I like the MSi more.
>>331269840
>FX-6300
how's that bottleneck working out for you friend?
The real winners are the people who bought the HD7970. Talk about longevity
>>331268861
So im was thinking of getting a 390X
to see if i could OC it to run 1440p on 144hz
Know if i can do that?
>>331269840
why are those GPUs so fucking hot?
what the fuck
mine idles at 25ºC and never goes above 45ºC
How long until the new GPUs come out? I keep thinking about upgrading from my 7950, but every new gen past it on both red and green has pretty much made me not care enough.
>>331269840
How that works for you anon?
AMD are cheaper cards so I'm thinking on doing that.
>>331268663
>amd cpu
I mean their gpus are pretty good, but nigger what were you thinking?
>>331270136
Because we arent using shitty integrated graphics and playing at low settings
>>331269569
yeah dude, it was the best card at the time, so?
he's complaining of the fact that he can't run new games on ultra with a gpu from 2012
>>331269840
Only 8GB of RAM anon? Just spend the $36
>>331270136
He has two of them... side by side in crossfire... trading heat with each other.
This is something you typically DON'T DO unless you're a retard or unless you have liquid cooling installed.
>>331269915
You'd think so but most reviewers don't actually bother rerunning benchmarks when new drivers get updated so what happens is that AMD improves performance but no one gives a fuck if the launch is bad even if they end up performing better than Nvidia. Most comparisons you see online are using old data.
>>331269840
You need to get rid of that bottleneck bro. FX-6300 even OCd bottlenecks a fucking 280x.
>>331270102
Highly OCd HD7950 here, feels good man. Had a GTX460 before this and an 8800GT before that. GOAT cards.
>>331270235
nice meme cuck
>>331269878
he's a moron and isnt using optimized driver settings. also he doesnt overclock and I'm pretty sure he has the 1GB version. he has no idea what hes doing.
>>331266664
I know that feel bro, can't complain that much though I bought mine for 700 in 2013.
>>331270221
Nothing wrong with AMD CPU. In fact, with Mantle, Vulkan or DX12, their CPU will match Intel i7s for a much lower price point.
>>331269878
oh dude, really dude?no way dude!!
>>331270136
60 degrees isn't very hot for silicon chips
>>331270136
Asus have this gimmick going where the fans don't spin up until the card reaches 65c.
>>331270370
he had the 2 gb version, it's probably a different video
>>331266123
our cards are only going to be worth $300 around the time vega 10 comes out, it hurts.
at least the 1070 and 1080 are expected to beat the 980 TI in performance so 980 TI owners will probably feel the worst off.
>>331270501
its actually nice not hearing the fans when your just watching videos and browsing the internet. or doing work related things.
>>331270536
then he probably has the amd optimized settings turned off.
>>331269232
because they don't or it'd be all over tech news sites.
>>331269450
source or gtfo.
reminder... this is the near dx12 future.
>>331270416
This is true but will only matter when DX12 games start coming en masse and so far there's all of two games that have it? Not really worth gimping yourself "future-proofing" for DX12.
>>331270364
nice lying on the internet, kid
>>331270670
the cards were listed in order of which was winning with release drivers vs the newest, aka goyimworks patch.
>>331268415
>780 ti is not high-end when the 900 series was months away
>oy vey goy buy a high-end 980 ti months before Pascal!
>>331270670
http://www.techspot.com/review/1000-project-cars-benchmarks/page6.html
>>331270712
This ONLY matters if the devs go out of their way to implement it themselves. Protip: They won't, sadly.
>>331270670
its all over the right tech sites. heres a video that shows you with evidence. and it is known that every time they come out with new architecture the new drives actually decrease the performance its all in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7fA_JC_R5s
if you can stand the guys heavy accent.
What's the most demanding monitor I can use at good fps without upgrading anything else? What about dual monitors?what will it take to reach 4k?
>>331270501
>>331270640
every other gpu brand does that too nowadays
>>331270949
theres only one other brand kiddo.
>>331270849
hey now, don't be a retard. you just claimed that nvidia bribed bethesda to release a patch that boosted all amd cards and wrecked performance on their cards. that's a pretty stupid post, anon. might want to turn off your computer and go read a book after that.
>>331270712
>dx12 will bring better performance guys, trust us!
>>331263716
Not him, but when i got my 390 i could not even get my PC to boot until updating my mobo bios, then i went through hell finding a set of drivers that worked without crashing any game i played. It's all fine now, but a normie would have never gotten that far.
>>331270948
2 or three 290's if you want good performance but wait till dx12 games come out before buying the third one.
>>331270873
"i'm going to start a discussion about something without explaining the context and get mad at someone that didn't know the exact moment i bought my gpu"
>>331271032
by brand I mean asus, msi, sapphire, etc...
don't be facetious
>>331271083
sounds like you bought an outdated mb.
>>331263193
The 390 has been faster than the GTX 970 in the latest benchmarks. So i think it was a nice choice.
>>331270640
also, why did you came up with gta 5? the 780 ti handle it way better than the 7850
>>331271116
Yeah I'm definitely waiting. New cards coming and I can play whatever I want at high quality now, no reason to build a batcave in the next few months
>>331271197
damn people paid 1300 for titan blacks. btfo.
>>331271269
because its a demanding game that came out recently and its a 5 year old card.
>>331271129
>don't complain, it's not like the 780 ti is a high-end GPU anyway and I am saying this after he said he got it before the 900 series came out
>>331271197
Fuck. Never buying nvidia again.
>>331270849
>53 on a GTX 980ti??
No way!
>>331270901
>Protip: They won't, sadly
But they already are.
>>331271401
you lack of reading comprension, i said nothing about the 780 ti, holy shit what does that even mean
>>331271064
yeah i have a hard time trying to explain the graph out but i'm sure you understand. and there wasn't a bribery, it's a legitimate performance hit that maxwell cards took when gameworks features were introduced.
gee i wonder why nvidia would intentionally be lowering performance around the time that their new cards are coming out? who cares lets just buy pascal and throw away our maxwell GPUs! :^)
>>331270901
Ashes of Singularity for all intents and purposes is a glorified tech demo and will most likely not be the norm. I would fucking love to be wrong though, that'd make me the happiest person in the world.
If Stardock's software implementation on it is actually not shit and runs mainly hassle free, that would be absolutely fantastic.
>>331271954
Fuck me, meant to quote
>>331271568
>>331263193
>worried about no Gameworks or PhysX
Turn off tessellation, or only allow a small amount of tessellation. PhysX is only going to kill your performance if your processor is a bottleneck. Anisotropic filtering x4 is the sweet spot, but you can push x8 on most games.
>>331272243
amd optimized driver settings usually do the trick so you dont have to have no tessellation. You wont even notice the difference they just remove the insane levels of tessellation gimpworks games have.
>>331264032
>>331263630
The drivers from both makers are shit this generation.
>>331272565
list some on amd please.
>>331263193
>>just bought an R9 390 as replacement
>When Pascal and Polaris are literally around the corner
>>331272652
do we have any real information or is it still just rumors?
>>331272649
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=398858
>>331272471
nvidia tessellation slider when?
>>331272565
I haven't noticed any issues with AMDs new stuff yet. My only gripe is that their Crimson control centre still has remnants of Catalyst in it. Whether that's just interface bits or actual code, I can't be sure. They said they'd made everything from the ground up, but some things suggest otherwise.
>>331272759
The thing is how much are they going to cost.
>>331272760
>Original post is almost a year old
Anon...
>ASUS
the 390 is absolutely the card to get right now for the vast majority of people
But you really should have gone for MSI or sapphire
>>331272649
>>331272760
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9112/exploring-dx12-3dmark-api-overhead-feature-test/3
all that wasted potential. the 290x shouldn't be getting half the draw calls that a 750ti can get in dx11.
>>331273176
and still not address by amd. kind of like how it took them years to address frame latency and they only did so because tech sites were calling them out on it. they didn't even do a good job of it.
>>331272782
never ever man thats their planned obsolescence in action. maybe when they start getting called out for it.
>>331273039
holy fuck they have another architecture right on time for their 2 year obsolescence plan. like clockwork.
>>331263317
Said Dr. Alienware
>>331273407
>http://www.anandtech.com/show/9112/exploring-dx12-3dmark-api-overhead-feature-test/3
your going to have to paraphase it, I read almost half of the article and didnt see any mention of driver problems.
>and still not address by amd. kind of like how it took them years to address frame latency and they only did so because tech sites were calling them out on it. they didn't even do a good job of it.
your going to have to provide a source.
>>331274326
>As we saw in Star Swarm and continue to see here, AMD’s DirectX 11 throughput is relatively poor, topping out at 1.1 draw calls for both DX11ST and DX11MT. AMD simply isn’t able to push much more than that many calls through their drivers, and without real support for DX11 multi-threading (e.g. DX11 Dirver Command Lists), they gain nothing from the DX11MT test.
their dx11 drivers are a bottleneck. the forum post explained everything in detail.
>your going to have to provide a source.
for what, the frame latency issue?
>>331273260
To be honest, it's not worth it at this point if you've a card that can tide you over some 6 months or so. Polaris and Pascal are approaching and they promise a lot of improvements, some being ones that would've served the 390 well.
The 390 is just a rebranded 290, a 2½ year old card, and while I won't contest its great performance, price point or future proofing potential, these features come at a cost. The card tends to run hot and loud (unless you get the Sapphire Nitro 390) and its overclocking potential is very limited (unless you get the MSI 390). While it could tide you over for years until your next upgrade, it may end up giving you more headaches over that period than a mid-range Pascal or Polaris.
This from someone running a MSI 390. I love what it can do compared to my previous HD6950, but it has the feel of a dead-end/final run product (and considering the 28nm process and GCN 1.1 core it's based on, it is), like it was already pushed well beyond its limits at stock clocks and has little more to offer safely.
>>331275640
nah I believe you, both companies have bad drivers from time to time.
how is my build /v/?
>>331276446
>nvidia.
how could anyone buy this shit after all the shit they do.
>>331276782
well I got it for $20 and my old r9 280
>>331276148
well just for the sake of completion: http://techreport.com/review/24218/a-driver-update-to-reduce-radeon-frame-times
this is a year after the 7900 series launched. all their previous cards had the same issues.
if i had to guess it's all the little things that go wrong with amd cards that have nvidia at 80% market share. it's just too much of a gamble when random shit goes wrong, like hd 5000 series not working in pcie 1.1 slots, random releases with bios problems that cause 2D/3D states to constantly alternate and screw up performance. wish there was a third competitor. i'm tired of picking between giant douche and turd sandwich.
>>331263193
you will literally get negative fps
>>331265846
2 of mine 280x worked 1 year non-stop at 82C temp.
Both are fine.
Nevar forget that nvidia is the origin of housefires meme and chip (un)soldering.
>>331267724
>I'm not going to spend 700+ dollars every single year
Bad goyim
>>331276446
>AMD CPU
>960
god damn nigga how could you fuck up so badlyi fell for the amd cpu too
>>331269285
I once saw a AMD GPU working fine at 100C.
>>331263193
>PhysX
That might be a problem. Some games run it always because fuck you, and Nvidia has the option to turn this off for more performance. With an AMD, you may think that PhysX wont even run but it does, theres no graphical change but the card struggles to run something that cant run at all, leading to issues. Expect random FPS drops in most games, and in some unlucky ones, less FPS overall.
>>331277526
not that bad of a fit actually. lower driver overhead on the 960 so the 6300 doesn't take as much of a hit.
>>331277750
>lower driver overhead on the 960
how do you do this?
>>331277030
fuck why the hell would you do that?
>>331277126
they have 80% of the share market because they used to beat out amd on the benchmarks. but they have been caught red handed using nasty tricks like putting insane amounts of tessellation where it doesnt belong to pad the numbers. they are ripe for a class action lawsuit but they know they can get away with it because they sell their shit to kids. They have been doing this type of shit since physx was proprietary and the little kids fall for the gimmicks. gimpworks is the newest form of this garbage like this>>331270903 anon shows with this video.
>>331277869
meant the 960 has lower driver overhead compared to an amd card, so the cpu performance hit isn't as great.
>>331277126
they only have 75% of the market share as of this quarter.
>>331277940
oh, yeah, sorry I misread it lol. I was wondering "what the hell does he mean by "Lower the driver overhead?".
I should get some sleep.
>mfw 200 series AMD
>mfw won't have to be bothered upgrading until 2018 or so because I'm not an nvidia cuckster
>>331277883
because the r9 280 dual-x was giving me graphics artifacts out the ass
>>331277883
i've been fucked by amd and have had friends that got fucked by amd. every time they make a mistake they promote nvidia by default. they share some of the blame.
>>331263317
720p? He would be lucky to get 240p going, going to need to turn down the setting just in case.
>>331265604
runs cooler =/= makes less heat
>>331278180
ha you gave someone a broken card.
>>331278220
oh bullshit. nvidia is the ones fucking up the entire industry including people that arent even their customers with goyimworks. and physx. they just keep finding new ways to add ridiculous amounts of tessellation that dont do anything for graphical quality.
>tfw according to /v/ intel is shit would not buy
>tfw according to /v/ AMD CPUs are shit would not buy
>tfw according to /v/ AMD GPUs are shit would not buy
>tfw according to /v/ nvidia GPUs are shit would not buy
>>331278531
nah it wasn't that bad, the card i gave away had checkerboard artifacts appear sometimes.
>built my PC two year ago
>just realised five minutes ago that I installed my cpu cooler in the wrong orientation
>>331278784
probably not even worth changing at this point if it hasnt caused any problems desu.
>>331265061
i3 would def bottleneck a 390
>>331264103
>tfw been with AMD since it was ATI
Naw
>>331278531
when the 7870 came out there were common problems with stuttering or black screens, you don't think amd sent customers to nvidia? what about when their pcie 2.0 cards weren't compatible with pcie 1.1? it's a pretty big deal to go and order a brand new graphics card that should work with your system no problem and it turns out to have such a serious design oversight.
>>331279457
I have a 7850 and never experienced any of these thing but regardless at least they dont sabotage the performance for all pc users on some of the best multi plats to sell their newest cards.
>>331263317
>Good luck running anything beyond 720p
Nigger that monster has 8gb of video ram, why you think it destroys the 970 at higher resolution gaming? holy shit this has to be a 13 year old
>>331279952
nvidia's behavior stems from amd's incompetence. i hope they can turn it around with polaris and zen because if they don't they're probably finished.
>>331280123
meant for
>>331279784
>Tfw been using a GTX 660 for 4 years now
Ain't even mad, handles everything I throw at it just fine.I can't afford the higher-end models
>>331280123
thats just a retarded statement. Why would adding ludicrous amounts of tessellation on flat objects be because amd is incompetent. I've never had any problems with amd just like everyone else as well. They are a very underhanded company and you would relise this if you watched the video posted twice before itt. and until you do. I'm not going to continue this conversation. they have been doing this shit since physx was proprietary.
>>331268663
Clearly shopped, your Fury X isn't idling over 50C
>>331280352
did you try any games since 4th quarter 2015 that are "the way its meant to be played"?
>>331272652
Stuck with my 290 for another year i only upgrade every other gen. Gonna feel so boss when i get a 1070. you know that shit is gonna be a DX12 monster unlike the shitty 970. I feel sorry for you guys that are biased. don't know shit about anything haha.
>>331268767
I got an XFX 390 the card fans died after 2 years of running them at basically 100% they replaced the fans and gave it back in under a week. What the fuck are you talking about.
>>331270416
By the time DX12 is mainstream those 8000 series are gonna be garbage. Face it you cucked your self. How did you not know this you're not an idiot...
>>331281498
I used to stock xfx in my shop. I was getting so many warranty calls I had to stop selling them. I was literally spending more time on warranties than anything else. the reason why the rma system is so good is because so many die before the warranty runs out or are doa.
>>331263630
I had less problems with my 7870 than i do with my 970
I don't think I've even run into any game I can't run at a smooth 60 yet. Overclocked CPU and GPU though it's not showing on speccy for some reason.
>>331281920
Sorry man i meant 290 not 390. ill admit it's the first time i've had fans die on my card well ever.
>>331269285
should blow your dust out fo sho
going back to amd after my 970 goes or I can afford a new card
>>331282131
You playing them all on the lowest detail? or medium? that must suck man.
>>331263193
>buting a new card a few months before Pascal release
enjoy being obsolete so fast
>>331282280
Everything max except Ambient Occlusion and Motion Blur actually.
>>331281798
they are already making every game in dx12. every new game that comes out will use it if its AAA.
>buying any amd card now when the new ones are coming this june/july
amd are shit anyway. you should have bought a used 950 for cheap and then bought a better nvidia card later this year when they get released since its pretty much confirmed even by amd fanboys that the nvidia architecture is way better right now and theyll have a massive advantage when it comes to heat output, power usage and overclocking.
>>331282305
obsolete considering every game that comes out for pc is a console port this wont happen until maybe, and thats a big maybe, on the next gen of consoles.
>>331263193
>buying AMD
you dun goof'd
>>331282429
amd is beating nvidia in benchmarks and cost hundreds less you need to update your database.
>>331263193
>No Gameworks
While gameworks shut looks nice, its power consuming as fuck and really not worth it
>No PhysX
Literally nothing
>>331282506
there is literally no reason to buy nvidia anymore. they cost more and perform worse.
>>331282342
Shit man that's terrible i can't stand playing at 35 fps.
>>331282564
you can use gameworks with amd just fine on the newer cards and they even give you sliders unlike nvidia.
>>331282620
shit I have hairworks enabled on my 7850 and only lose 5 frames. Its all about that amd optimized tessellation.
>>331282606
I can't stand playing below 60fps either. That's why I turn down the AO. I get rid of motion blur just because my eye isn't a fucking camera. Same reason I go with soft shadows because nature doesn't make sharp edges with light unless under a spotlight or another hot source
>>331263317
Fucking 12 year olds know nothingh about GPU's
>>331282429
haha what? a 950 is fucking garbage. 970 is the lowest anyone should go for the green.
>>331282516
>amd is beating nvidia in benchmarks and cost hundreds less you need to update your database.
lol no.
980 ti>fury x
980>furyx, fury, 390x (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDxTcvZ4T2k)
970>390
>>331282731
>i don't play in low detail
>yeah i turn off all the detail
>i play in ultra
sure bro sureeeeeee.
>>331264196
Kill yourself faggot, i have a Radeon 7990 and have never had a problem with it. Fucking great card that will destroy a 970
>>331265061
>i3
>r9 390
>shouldve bought nvidia
Do you know anything aboiut computers you dirty fucking nigger
>>331282837
see>>331271197
beats it by 1 frame and the amd is 100 bucks cheaper. not to mention these benchmarks dont even use amd optimization which gives it a huge advantage when turned used.
>>331280967
nvidia doesn't have any real competition.
>>331270712
>doto 2 dx 12 jumps from 30-50 fps
>switch to 11, flat out 144
>>331283093
when used*
>>331283140
except when you use amd otimized settings then they beat the shit out of nvidia.
Ah i remember being in middle school and buying AMD, ah to be young and niave.
Youll grow up someday kiddos.
>>331283191
oh the ironing.
>>331283191
says the nvidia cuck, just buying nvidia for the name
>>331283181
>Amd optimized aka low-medium on everything
So much better amirite?
>>331282838
>textures on ultra
>models on ultra
>max view distance
>max AA
>max APF
>turn down to SSAO and it's suddenly on low settings
kay
It's obvious I'm talking to someone who thinks a 770 is ancient or something and unknowingly is ignorant that it's the direct decedent to the 970 since there was no 800 series.
>>331282456
This. Every game they talk about needing big specs to run turns out to scale down to potato easily because all of them need to run well on PS4 and Xbone too. You're only going to be maxing out these cards on shitty unoptimized games or with power/space hungry mods. If you're running 1080p/60 fps now congrats you'll be fine till 2019. By then 4K will be the norm and these cards will be replaced by better cheaper versions anyway.
>>331283295
nvidiots know nothing about computer hardware it seems.
>>331283181
>game uses nvidia optimized settings
>reeeeeeee kill the green jews
>stop cucking my beloved amd
>game uses amd optimized settings
>perfectly fine
amdrones everyone.
Face it you delusional amdfags, Nvidia performs cooler, can OC better and has amazing driver support.
>>331283380
nvidia doesnt even have optimized settings durplord.
>>331283459
Lol spot the reddit/amd user
>>331283438
too many buzzwords to comprehend. youre going to have to speak English.
>>331283438
this
>>331283459
>what is gameworks
Hi im here for the shitposting thread.
>>331283527
>hur hur buzzwords guise
Still waitinjg for a proper retort, try again.
>>331283509
nvidia tess sliders are the best huh.
>>331283531
not optimized tessellation thats for sure. theres a time in any conversation on the internet when you realize youre talking to a child and that was about 4 posts ago.
>>331263317
Spotted the Kid A(lienware).
>>331283640
Yeah but amd drivers are shit.
>>331283531
samefagging youre own comment. I told you to turn of the computer and go to bed. if I have to come in there I'm going to fucking pissed, your mom needs this.
>>331283723
no butts mister its time to stop posting.
>>331283640
>not optimized tessellation thats for sure
>he thinks gameworks is just tessellation
>what is nVidia HBAO+
>what is nVidia TXAA
>what is nVidia Soft Shadows
>what is nVidia DOF
theres a time in any conversation on the internet when you realize youre talking to a child who has done literally no research on the topic hes trying to (but failing massively) put an argument forward for and is just a blind shill who frequents amd reddit for news about the nvidia boogeyman. kill yourself.
>>331283840
>he defends amd to the death
Whats it like knowingly defending the lesser company?
Thats novelty to root for the underdog and all, but when i spend money i want the best. I dont settle for less, sorry you do.
>>331265061
What kind of fucking moron would buy a high end card and pair it with a weak ass processor like an i3?
You sir are an idiot.
>>331283786
>s-samefag
>pls stop bullying me s-samefag
jump off a cliff faggot. youre a waste of oxygen.
>>331283971
none of this is optimization. your moms ass is amazing. I had to grab her by the ears and retrain her how to suck a good dick though but the pussy game is amazing.
>>331284083
Neither is tesselation you fucking autist
is /v/ an nvidias bots playground. where do i get my dollars for writing "amd drivers are sheet"
>>331284083
>being this mad
KEK
your mom should have swallowed you when she had the chance, asswipe. i know it must be hard to be a failed abortion but the simple act of shooting yourself in the head can take all the pain away :-)
>>331283973
thats it I'm putting it in her pooper. she doesnt like it but she'll do anything for her boyfriend.
>>331284148
aww its retarded.
The 390 is a good card, but you should have gotten the Sapphire version. I've got a 980ti with that cooler and it's got a shitty reputation for not keeping the card cool.
>>331284238
theres those buzzwords again.
>>331284243
>no real rebuttal
>he justs shitposts instead
Spotted the redditor
>>331284316
damn nigger have you ever come up with an original insult even once in your insignificant life? tell your mom I love her for me will you.
>>331284238
>your mom should have swallowed you when she had the chance, asswipe. i know it must be hard to be a failed abortion but the simple act of shooting yourself in the head can take all the pain away :-)
Fucking burnnnnnnn
>>331265061
i3? Heh, this kid is a no hoper
*jumps up into the moonlit sky*
enjoy your pixelated bullshit fag...OSAKA BREEEEEEAAAAAKK *turns into a fireball and crashes into OP*
*OP bursts into treats*
Heheh...i3 fags are too easy
>>331284434
>samefagging this hard.
you actually think youre fooling anyone itt? fucking pathetic.
>tfw you feel the urge to buy a 390 but the plan was to save money until the end of the year and buy a brand new build
>>331284393
>original insult
>your mom jokes
pick one
>tfw you feel the urge to buy AMD but then realize im not a retarded poorfag.
>>331284481
>samefag
Nigga you just got shut down. This man deserves his (you).
>>331284513
I'm not sure how this works but I have been hearing about using different cards to increase performance in dx12 I've even seen amd and nvidia cards used together. do some research on the subject but dx12 isnt just the normal api update they normally come out with this is revolutionary stuff.
>>331284656
go away kid youre bothering me.
>>331284683
Yeah I'm aware, it's just that I've been waiting for so long for an upgrade.
>>331284729
Amd shills shut the fuck down
>>331284732
what I mean is buying a card now probably wont be a problem because you can just buy a new one later and they stack.
>>331284782
at leat this is what I think I haven't really looked into it yet.
390/970, i3 6100+z170 board would play every videogame perfectly until you upgrade to kaby+w/e gpu. in 1-2 years. this threads silly.
>>331284729
You should be the one going away bitch. You just got slammed 6 feet under the ground. That man right there should have make you reconsider you LIFE.
>>331284732
Shitposting aside, dont wait unless something is literally coming out in a week. Find something in your pricerange you like, amd or nvidia who cares, buy it and enjoy it. Thats my advice.
>>331284827
i3 is not a good idea at this point. its really starting to bottleneck even console ports.
>>331284897
Made *
>>331284827
I3 is trash
>>331284906
>literally
>>331284906
I'm pretty certain my 2500k would just bottleneck stuff and I'm planning to get one of the new cards anyway, so I'll just have to keep waiting.
>>331265061
>has shit tier CPU
>blames GPU
>>331285007
I doubt it, its a i5 right not sure what ghz it runs at though. buying a better gpu will improve performance now if you dont want to wait and dx12 will allow you to use the newest gpu when you can afford it and it will stack unlike before.
>>331280352
>660 Ti
>Fallout 4 on medium graphics in 1080p with rare fps drops
It's passable, but I'd rather upgrade.
>>331266640
So what choices does us,consumer has, either amd housefire card or jewvidya crippled the last gen card
What a crappy choices in our lifetime.
>>331285345
fuck my amd card is 5 years old and can run fo4 on highest settings before the physx patch now I have to turn down draw distance a bit but it will run it 60 frames solid out of areas you can build. in sanctuary it likes to dip a few frames. I even have gimprays to ultra. I feel bad for nvidia owners. but not that bad because the support a company that shits on the whole platform.
>>331285508
the amd housefire is an old meme.
>>331285614
Nvidia was better before the 600s and Gameworks became a thing. It was my first build and the card got me Memelands 2 for free, which is why I picked it versus the AMD counterpart. I run my rig at stock speeds, so it could be faster.
>>331285916
I hope you learned your lesson with that company, I dropped them when their selling point was physx. I fell for the physx meme, I bought a 260gtx with glee thinking how awesome physx sounded. It came with UT2004 with a special map that used the tech. I was mildly amused with the tornadoes picking you up and throwing you around and couldnt wait for the future. turns out no games other than that demo used it for 2 years. Then borderlands comes out. Holey fuck I can finally have a game that uses the technology in the whole game this is awesome. Turns out my at the time 1 year old card couldnt handle the physx and rendering at the same time and I had to turn it off to play the game at more than 20 fps. This is when I realized nvidia was a shit. I've been happy with my amd card ever since. playing the newest games at 60 frames solid with overhead to spare just untill recently when they came out with gimpworks. Its fine when a company shits on its own customers but when they cross the line and fuck with people that arent even their customers anymore its infuriating.
>>331285916
someone on 4chan is actually praising fermi, abandon thread.
>>331286419
come to think of it it might have been UTIII I'm not sure. it was ages ago.
>>331263193
>not waiting till may to get the finfet cards with HBM1
Truly a retard in its natural habitat.
>>331286419
>you crossed the line motherfucker, you better watch your back.
You did good anon, you did good.
>>331287313
dx12 gives amd cards a big performance bump too. amd is the future.
>>331287385
>negative scaling for Nvidia
Remember they said they were working on supporting async compute 6 months ago? Yeah well Thats just a bullshit lie given Nvidia have known about the DX12 spec from at least 2010.
>>331287450
I dont want to speculate too much but youre probably right.
>>331287450
Async compute is still off for Ashes for Nvidia, but it's in their drivers now, they just have to enable it
>>331287450
dx12 is an api. and not just some graphics bonuses its a whole new ballgame. considering they are giving win10 out for free you know microsoft believes in it. this is the first os they have ever given away for free in history.
>>331287773
Where can I get it for free? I'm using linux right now.
>>331287773
Windows 10 is free because they couldn't get anyone to buy it.
>>331287860
bootleg 8 activate it iwth a loader and you can get a legit copy of win10 for a limited time. or so I'm told. I got an rs copy of 7 back when they were offering it off of my legit 250 dollar copy of xp. It killed the xp key I'm a little sad but whats the point of hanging on to the past unless its my childhood.
>>331287954
ok kiddo you keep telling yourself that. they gave it away because they want to fastrack dx12 since its the first api upgrade since its inception that provides performance increases.
>>331287773
they are giving it away for free because they want it everywhere for total control. if it weren't for dx12 I would simply ignore it entirely.
>>331288108
microsoft has had total control of pc gaming since the beginning. you thought otherwise? oh ho ho.
>>331263317
1st post is always a shitpost
>>331288094
It's true. Adaption is slow even while it's free. Currently it's just slightly ahead of Windows XP in market share.
>>331288187
you think microsoft's priority are gaming PCs? and I'm not talking control of the market but users.
>>331288273
I could give you a link but you are would just try to refute it. dx has been the only thinkg games have been made on in close to a decade. better get with it.
>>331288281
youre going to have to expand on this autism for me to understand you.
>buy 390
>get 980ti performance
Grass is always greener eh?
>>331288384
On Steam, which is the gaming platform on PC and generally has users that have cutting edge hardware and software - Windows 7 vs Windows 10 is about even.
Outside of the tiny Steam ecosystem it's way worse than that.
DX12 will not become relevant anytime soon. If it ever will.
>>331264285
What is broad support for parallel computing?
AMD wouldn't know.
Vidya wise I agree though.
>>331288698
>AMD optimized game
You don't say.
>>331288797
every AAA game coming out is using dx12. explain that shit.
>>331265801
Enjoy predicting the future on 4 cores while the rest does it on ~3k kek
>>331288850
>nvidia optimized game
negative scaling. you are only fucking yourself at this point.
>>331263193
So OP what you will find in this thread is /v/ AKA /g/'s retarded little brother, trying to make AMD look bad.
The R9 390 is the best value card on the market right now, period. It hits the sweet spot, and has enough vram for all your modded skyrim needs. Plus you can OC for extra performance.
The problem you're facing is not the chipset here, it's the manufacturer of the card alltogether. ASUS' version has a lot of heat pipes and at first glance it looks really great, but they fucked up on this specific card and the pipes actually do not connect meaning the cooling is shit.
My advice: Return this card and get a Sapphire R9 390 or an MSI R9 390 for your gaming needs
>>331288850
Okay then, i'll stick with simply having 980 tier performance.
>>331288868
They'll run on DX11 just as well, and I don't know anyone who plays AAA games on PC.
>>331289003
In theory vulkan is the real game changer as it lets you ditch a DX11 path entirely.
>>331289003
I used to think this but at some point you just have to accept that AAA devs only make console games and port them. Its very sad but its what it is. I just have to accept it and move on. I used to really like AAA games pre 2013 when they actually made pc games. life is endless compromises.
>>331289045
vulkan is opengl 2.0
>>331289251
The codebase is nothing like opengl (and for good reason).
>>331288967
not to mention all games will be dx12 compatible from now on.
>>331289340
the point went over your head I guess. DX is the standard. what game even uses vulkan? guess what theres already games out that use dx12.
>>331289424
Vulkan is a year behind DX12, but it is still very enticing as it essentially brings all the benefits of DX12 without alienating the still sizeable win7/8 crowd.
So far the only game that supports vulkan is the talos principle (and even then its a straight port, like GoW ultimate is to DX12).
>>331289424
Guess what there are already games that use vulkan you ape.
>>331289526
like anon said dx11 took years before anyone implemented it. dx12 has been adopted almost immediately. Vulkan has no games its already irreverent.
>>331289576
I want aware of this you gibbon. name them.
>>331289636
>jewvidia
Software
The Talos Principle - The Talos Principle was the first video game with Vulkan rendering support.[34]
Unreal Engine 4 - On February 21, 2016, Epic Games announced Unreal Engine 4 support for Vulkan at Samsung's Galaxy Unpacked event.[35][36]
>mfw I fell for the AMD meme
>no reason to upgrade in the next 3 years
>GPU released in fucking 2013
>literally a six year lifespan
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
NVIDIABROS GET THE JOY OF UPGRADING EVERY YEAR AND I'M STUCK WITH THESE FUCKING CARDS WHICH GET BETTER PERFORMANCE YEAR AFTER YEAR
>>331289754
although talos is a great game its hardly AAA.
an engine inst a game chimp.
>>331289794
I used a GTX 460 from 2010 until 2015.
>>331289794
Vapor-x or tri-x? Those early 8gb vapor-x models were rare as fuck.
>>331289863
The claim was no games support vulkan, which is false. Further while UE4 isn't a game having vulkan support baked in is very important given how popular the game engine is.
>>331289794
This is the struggle, I just bought a 390 but want to update to Polaris or Vega when they come out. When is the best time to take it out in order to keep it from becoming too powerful?
>>331289931
yet every AAA since dx12 has been announced is using it. dx12 is a much more robust and mature api if you bet on vulkan you will probably lose.
Well shit
I was going to get myself a 750ti but what's the AMD equivalent? I was aiming for a cheap card (~$100) with more power than the piece of shit placeholder (GT 610) i'm using now.
>>331290013
>yet every AAA since dx12 has been announced is using it
That isn't true - remember DX12 was announced years ago and only became available with win10's release. Since then there have been plenty of AAA games released that do not support DX12.
>>331290058
Splash out on a 370.
>>331290079
announced is different than implementation. win10 had to be a thing before it could even be used.
>>331289945
>When is the best time to take it out in order to keep it from becoming too powerful?
Two years ago when the 390 was still labeled as a 290 and got stomped by the 780. Nowdays, it absolutly destroys the 780ti and is expected to get a even bigger boost with DX12.
It's already too late, bro. Should have got that 3.5 memecard instead like a real gamer.
>>331290153
..Yes? The claim was since its announcement every AAA game has supported DX12 with is flatout bullshit. If anon actually chose their words correctly the goalposts wouldn't keep shifting.
>>331290243
I'm not about to argue semantics we are past that.
>>331289945
Updating to polaris would be dumb. What they showed us is basically that the larger polaris chip is <980ti.
Vega will be the really big gpu.
>>331290327
amd is the future if you cant accept it then you will fall into irrelevancy.
>>331290218
Fuck me this was a bad idea
>>331290343
I'm thinking of getting the 390X equivelant of the next generation if my 390 doesn't keep getting better and better.
Can someone tell me about the newer cards this year?
Right now I'm leaning towards the 390/390x for a new video card but I'd like to see what's coming next.
>>331290685
pascal is the future. nvidia is a sham.
>>331290685
Well thats probably Polaris 10. If Polaris 10 has only GDDR5 memory it will be on the level of a 980 and with HBM 980TI level.
going to build a pc soon, should i just get anfx-6300and do some mild overclocking while we wait for zen? or is there a cheaper alternative that will run games about the same?
pairing with either sapphire 390 or 290x
>>331290785
polaris*
>>331290769
>3 year old rebrands that will get abandoned next year
>useless 8gb of vram which the gpu is too weak to fully utilize anyways
vs
>waiting until August for poolaris with only 4gb, guaranteed stuttery experience
OR
>wait til April and buy Pascal card with 8GB with the performance of 980 TI SLI for $400
>>331290769
For AMD: Polaris 10 and 11.
11 will be around 960 or 970 level and Polaris 10 around 390x/980 level.
If the rumors are true for Nvidia they will release a whole variety of cards.
>>331290803
Polaris 10 is supposed to make the MINIMUM VR requirements more affordable so it must cost a bit less than $300.
A GPU that cheap will never be on 980 level.
>>331290996
> 4gb, guaranteed stuttery experience
Nvidia can provide that on a mere 3.5!
>my 6950 is on it's last leg with graphical errors everywhere
>no release dates from either brands so i can finally replace this piece of shit
>>331290996
video memory is a non issue you can get current amd cards with 8gigs.
>>331291117
Polaris can't even compete with the Fury x. It's a replacement for the old as fuck rebrands. AMD doesn't have anything to compete with the x80/x70 this time around because they fucked up their supply chain.
>>331290803
What will the actual performance difference between GDDR5X vs GDDR5 and HBM vs HBM2 be like?
>>331291117
But they showed Polaris 10 running hitman at 1044p and 60fps. That round 980 or 980ti level.
Although they could have pulled some optimization stuff.
>>331290996
waiting till april for the pascal doesn't sound bad
is there a catch to it?
>>331291043
complete bullshit.
>>331291175
nobody expected more from you.
>>331291175
Depending on how its dying you could actually bake the thing in the oven to reflow the solder. Assuming that works yoiu might get another few months out of it (as baking is only a temporary solution unless you also find a way to make the gpu run cooler).
>>331291264
youre buying a card that will see 0% performance increase.
>>331291205
4GB definitely isn't enough for the new generation with 14/16nm.
And like I said before the 390x is too weak to utilize the 8gb. You would be hitting the frame limit before the vram limit.
>>331291043
AMD compared the power efficiency of the Polaris 11 with the GTX 950.
Since lower end cards have higher power efficiency this would have only made sense if the Polaris 11 is speedwise on the level of the GTX 950.
AMD always talks about how Polaris is all but performance per watt and performance per dollar. So expect it to be an entry level card with a cost <$100.
>>331291370
you cant say this we saw a huge increase in vram usage in just the fourth quarter of last year. whats your basis?
>>331291226
Those old as fuck rebrands are shitting on 980's and even 980 ti's. And they cost under half.
>>331291264
The only catch is a TI version will arrive a year later that performs 30% better with HBM2, for $150 more.
The x80 has 40% more cores than the 980 ti. We're looking at massive leaps here.
>>331291476
speculation at best.
>>331291448
also 390 has 8gigs.
>>331291448
>whats your basis?
There's been numerous tests done to see if the 8gb versions of Hawaii performs better. It doesn't when the core clock remains exactly the same.
Either way there's no point in discussing nearly dead cards. Polaris will only be 4GB. It won't be enough for 2016 fowards.
>>331291370
>AC:U
Meanwhile, in Hitman....
>>331291663
again basis. do you have evidence that polaris will have less than 8?
>AMD
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/11/amds-new-crimson-drivers-accused-of-burning-up-video-cards/
Ahahahahahaahaahaaaaa
>>331291663
far cy four doesnt utilize dx12.
>>331264103
>bought AMD 7850 for my first card
>zero issues except that one time I set an unstable overclock (my fault)
I have no reason to switch to NVIDIA unless i want PhysX, which I'd probably turn off anyway to get more fps.
>>331291763
AMD released a road map several days ago. Google it.
If you want more than 4gb you'll need to wait for Vega in 2017.
AMD is so immensely fucked this generation.
>>331291263
>The showcase at GDC involved Hitman running at 1440p, 60 FPS, although quality settings weren't mentioned.
>quality settings weren't mentioned
Also AMD cards in general are really strong in Hitman. Polaris 11 will be 390 tier speed with a 380x tier cost.
>>331291770
>http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/11/amds-new-crimson-drivers-accused-of-burning-up-video-cards/
literally who? also what is bumping up?
>>331291853
CPU wise they did bad, Fury and Nano aren't exceptional cards but the 390 and 390x are the best value cards out at this moment so I wouldn't say that.
>>331291864
>HBM
>14nm
>$250
HAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>331291853
4 gigs will handle all console ports fine until 2017. in fact I'm positive it will hold till the next gen of consoles.
>>331263756
The Division is working great on my R9 270X, I don't know what you are talking about.
>>331267193
7850/70 are both great, I've got a 7850 that can OC to 7870 performance. This baby has solidified my next GPU purchase as AMD.
>>331291980
>HBM
>Polaris
Pick one
Polaris is GDDR5.
>>331291932
amd will have comparable performance to intels cpus with dx12 at a much more affordable price.
>>331291985
Who's going to buy 4GB cards with the power of previous gen 290x when the x70 will pack 8GB better than 980 ti performance for $350?
>>331292072
No.
>>331292113
Polaris is not comparable to previous iterations.
>>331292208
Tell that to the currynigger amd hired to build Polaris.
>>331292113
>when the x70 will pack 8GB
Not correct it has only 7.5GB.
> Nvidia GeForce graphics card with 7,680 MB of graphics memory, 512MB short of 8GB
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-3dmark-11-entries-spotted/
>>331292064
muh nigga. I have a 7850 and its going stronk into the next gen. feels good being an informed consumer.
>>331292312
what the fuck is this guy talking about?
>>331292367
lol don't know which is more funny, 4gb or 7.5gb
>>331292463
considering console games could never use more than 4 gigs until next gen of consoles its probably the nvidiot.
>>331292503
Some games already use more than 4gb if your gpu is capable enough.
>>331265846
underage
>>331292620
I havent encountered any that need it. name some games nigger.
>>331292656
Scroll up and you'll see them. I wasn't the only one posting them.
>>331292773
link to it then.
>>331292813
I'm on mobile so I'd rather not.
>>331292836
name one then.
Any 970 owners here? How do you feel now that your gpu is obsolete?
>>331292836
googles furiously.
>>331293008
I almost feel bad for you guys considering the dx12 will show significant performance increases all the way back to the 7000 series. the benifit of not using a new architecture every 2 years.
>>331276446
>AMD CPU
>GTX 960
That's a bait right? RIGHT?
>>331293257
dx12 api*
If it's anything like the quality of the 380 it'll be a fine card.
>>331293257
Classic example of mount stupid.
>>331293436
nothing wrong with amd cpu's. considering dx12 will boost the performance to comparable performance of intel's equivalents all the while costing the consumer considerably less. multi-core is now.
>>331293575
they had it coming thats for sure. burned bridges with microsoft, and every dev they ever messed with. not to mention shitting on amd's ability to optimize "the way its meant to be played" titles. they really took that splash screen to heart. I remember when it was just an advertisement. different times anon different times.
>>331263193
It does get hot and loud if you're demanding. Mine is 61 °C on idle (don't know if that's normal though) and can get up to 79 if you're playing ie witcher 3 on ultra. Just buy good headphones that cancel noise and you'll be fine
>>331293898
>61c idle
Holy shit I idle at around 30c on my 780
>>331294004
holy shit you bought nvidia.
>>331293898
In dual monitor use that's normal.
When used with a single monitor it should idle around 40° with the fans off
>>331293898
>Just buy good headphones that cancel noise and you'll be fine
Why would anyone recommend this
Unless where you're playing games is noisy, open-back is better
>>331293575
amd gained 5% of the market share just in the first quater of 2016. and dx12 isnt even a realization in the public sector. nvidiots btfo.
>>331292072
That's not what AMD says. They will use HBM or GDDR5 depending on the price point. Polaris 10 will probably have 6GB of HBM1
>>331294175
amd isnt known for lying to its customers. In fact they have never been caught lying and cheating.
>>331294260
since 1969.
>>331294329
thats only 10 years older than my 59 olds. thats something to trip on.
>>331294175
Polaris 10 is the nvidia's 1060 competitor (or AMD 480X).
Polaris 11 is the 1080's competitor or AMD's 490X
If anything, its the Polaris 11 that will have HBM
they used to sell this car by putting a 10 dollar bill on the dash and telling the prospective owner to try and take the money as they accelerated. it was my grandpas's car.
>>331294621
it's the other way around. What they showed last week was Polaris 10.
>>331294789
regardless amd is the frontrunner for 2016. there should be no argument.
>>331294621
Polaris 11 is the slower card that they showed playing Star Wars Battlefront on 1080p with a lower power consumption then the GTX 950.
Polaris 10 was shown to play Hitman on 1440p.
AMD said that Polaris will make the minimum VR specs more affordable.
The rest is pure speculation.
>>331295007
you niggers arent even talking about the duo. its the go to card for vr development and high end consumer. nvidia btfo.
>>331295107
Nvidia gave up on dual chip cards after the titan z bombed so hard hiroshima felt it.
Why the FUCK haven't either just announced shit already? I want to upgrade my shitty 970 but both of them are too piss-scared to say anything about their new GPUs.
It's getting really frustrating now, I could spend £500 on a GPU right now but if I did it would be the 980 ti, a card that will be outdated once next gen comes out.
JUST ANNOUNCE THEM YOU FUCKS.
>>331295256
all I see is amd for the future. nvidia were a bunch of kids that pissed off their betters. their time is over. they deserve it. they were acting like children in a world of established companies.
>>331295473
Just buy the AMD Radeon Pro Duo.
>>331295582
he couldn't afford it.
>>331295582
My computer only has a 660w power supply so I can't fit two cards or two-in-one cards in. I did so because my last computer (560ti SLI) was more trouble than it was worth.
>>331295675
>pretending you could afford a 1400 dollar card.
>>331295739
I don't know the prices off the top of my head, sorry.
>>331295784
you dont know shit off the top of your head.
in these gpu threads i can never know if people are seriously or not
>>331295917
I'm dead fucking serious.
>Lords of the Fallen
>Realworld performance would be 90-100FPS
>Nvidia shitworks limit it to 45-70fps
>Literally have to intall MSI Afterburner to force FPS to 50
And its the only game that runs "bad".
Nvidia Nvidia you're so green
Pays me for every post on screen
For every benchmark and chart I post
I get more shekels than the Ivory Coast
Whenever someone posts red
It keeps me awake at night in my bed
I use my shilling skills to divert the truth
Nobody needs such silly things as proof
>>331295979
rip
>>331295996
Don't worry, Hardocp won't add far cry primal to their benchmark suite because it doesn't have gamesworks and thus runs too well (seriously).
>>331263193
The R9 is great. Fuck nvidia with their shitty consumer rape tactics.
>>331296019
faggot.
>>331296163
another informed consumer. youre a rare one it seems. they'll all fall like dominoes. their reign of terror is over.
>Mfw Oced 7950 to 7970 level of performance
I'm set until the next generation, and even then I could still keep this card chugging for another year. You Nvidiafags enjoying your 700 series cards that get worse every year?
>>331263193
Why are you dumb? The next generation of graphic units is on the starting line.
>>331296849
dont insult someone that wants to play games now and has seen the light. dx12 allows stacking numb nuts.
>>331263193
Hope it came with ear plugs
>>331296849
The next highend cards by AMD only come in 2017.
>>331296946
nvidiots can burn in hell with your 2 year obsolescence plan. what are you trying to encourage this kind of shit?
>>331296946
The cards coming out in June will offer Fury X performance for $300 or less. You'd have to be retraded to not wait for that.
>>331297093
june is a long way off. why not get a card that can stack right now if you are unhappy with the performance of your current card. there is nothing stopping you.
>>331296082
>Hardocp
Holy fucking shit. Thats a lot of performance gain
>>331297093
youre thinking in nvida terms asshat. dx12 is a whole new ballgame brought to you by amd.
>>331297093
>Fury X performance for $300 or less
Keep dreaming
>>331297250
>he didnt read the therad.
>>331297289
There is nothing that suggests it has Fury X performance.
>>331297312
ya your right except for all of the benchmarks that use dx12.
>>331297158
>3 months is a long way off
There aren't even any graphically intense games coming out.
>>331297371
they probably will be at the 600 dollar price point. since you can use any card to increase performace with dx12 theres no reason not to update.
>>331297524
>Windows 10 only
Day 1 flop
>>331297557
its free.
>>331297557
>refusing to play game because free update
pcucks
>>331297457
$600 card is Vega 10 which is coming out early 2017.
Polaris 10 and 11 are midrange cards. Polaris 10 is rumored to be 232mm^2, which would make it extremely cost efficient even with HBM1.
>>331297660
we just dont know. if the guy is unhappy with current performance he can buy a new card when the prices come down or not. thats the power of the pc now.
>>331297747
>buying outdated tech
>ever
unless you can pick up a 390 for $200 there is no point
>>331297825
just to clarify the next card he buys will just stack performance and doesnt have to be the same card. get with it man.
>tfw got r9 380
Maybe in a year or so I'll upgrade to a better one.
>>331297910
all of this is because of amd tech. the power of open. shit he could buy nvidia next time if he's an idiot and it will still stack.
>>331298018
bump limit reached if you want to continue this conversation make a new thread
>>331267857
Twin Frozr is MSI's thing, who's the dumb nigger again?
>>331298840
the last word faggot strikes again.
>>331298893
Not my fault your retard ass insists on arguing when getting even the basic facts wrong.
>>331299104
a child is you
>>331299151
>call someone a dumb nigger by being one himself
>gets corrected
>gets triggered by immediately resorting to ad hom
Better a child than some easily triggered autist.
