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Nintendo Issues Statement On Side Quest Changes In Bravely Second


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http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/03/nintendo_issues_statement_on_side_quest_changes_in_bravely_second

>"We literally changed it because having the characters go 'Hmm. Maybe siding with X instead of Y might have worked out better...' made the Japanese fans sad."

B R A V O
R
A
V
O

Westerners LITERALLY are too kiddy to handle bad feelings.
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>japanese players say that was a bad idea
>Nintendo changes it so we dont have the same reaction

So they actually listened to feedback.
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>>331244317
too bad nobody will actually see this
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>>331240857
Wasn't getting players feelings all bunched up the entire point ?
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>>331244317
They never said it was a bad idea, just that they got sad.
Which they should since those were the bad endings.
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Boo hoo the Japs cried. Last I checked we aren't the Japanese.
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>>331244705
>just that they got sad

>each side quest would end with the team lamenting the decision they made, regardless of the player's decision

I'd be more than sad if that happened with every single side quest.
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God dammit, I hate Tiz and Yew so much, their bumpkins but they get to slam hotties like Agnes and Magnolia. It's not fair. What next? That brat Egil from the first game becoming the protagonist of the third and getting a hot waifu as well?
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>>331244317
>Japanese players like something
>Nintendo changes it anyway, cleavage isn't allowed for the west!!
>Japanese players dislike something
>Nintendo changes it for the west, saying it was because of feedback

I don't get it, first they tell us we're two different cultures that are too different from each other to have cleavage in games, then they decide on gameplay changes because of people outside of this region.

Localizers are the scum of the industry when they're supposed to be saviors.
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Played it. Justified.

You shits wouldnt be complaining if you saw the terrible writing like i have. It needs to be changed

>white mage job? Np, sell this girl to a jew
>ranger job? Let everyone starve to death then
>want access to the steal command rob an entite country if water
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>>331243621
Fuck Nintendo is dead to me
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>>331245530
Now the writing is just shittier.
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>>331245530
Oh fuck off, I want to experience it myself rather than be dictated what I can or cannot see.
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>>331245053
Fuck Yew but Tiz completely deserved it, he lost his home, his family, died three times, lost 2 years of life and went in two dangerous quests.
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>Region known for FUCK YEAH I LOVE MORAL CHOICES IN MUH RPG'S
>Remove moral choices in muh RPG's because feelings

????????
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>>331245530
I played it in Japanese and the writing isn't much better, the game is just mediocre, but its a shame its censored in the west.
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>>331245530
>Not siding with the Red Mage even though he tried to rape Edea and had a literal sex dungeon
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>>331245810
From what I understand, it's not really "moral choices."

It's "no matter what you do in the first cycle, you always did the wrong thing. Fix it in the next cycle."
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>>331245942
Close, but no.

It's
"You aren't sure if the decision you made the first loop was a good idea. Either cement your choice in the second loop, which gives you a 'Yes. This was the right choice!' prompt, or fix it in the next."

It's literally a "Are you fucking sure, faggot?" option. And it hurt Japanese feelings.

I thought Japan was a different market? Isn't that why everything gets re-written, censored, and "localized" when it's brought over here to the West?
Isn't that why everything gets changed? Because what the Japanese think is good is wrong and different from what the West knows is actually good?

Then why are we using JAPANESE feedback to dictate the WESTERN VERSION of the game?
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>>331245942
so now pacifist runs are ruined because you can just get all jobs without killing anyone?
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>>331245530
Added bonus, you have to beat the shit out of the person clearly in the right.

Even in bethesda games if I smack some dick around I don't go into his house and kill his wife too. Forced 13 year old appeal dialogue is garbage.
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>>331246642
>Even in bethesda games if I smack some dick around I don't go into his house and kill his wife too.
Casual.
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Remove it for the japanese, then. I'm not japanese.
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>>331246642
>if I smack some dick around I don't go into his house and kill his wife too
I just go kill his wife then slap my dick in his face while waving her severed head around.
For shits and giggles.
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>Nintendo
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>listening to japanese consumers

japanese gamers have become casual as fuck even so much that squareenix called them out because japanese players thought the ffXV demo was too hard.
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Why YewXMagnolia feels so forced? They did a damn good job with TizXAgnes.
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>>331247292
>Why YewXMagnolia feels so forced?
Because it is.
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>>331243621
so instead of trying to improve upon the decisions the player can make and making the player able to emphasize with the characters more, they decided to just lazily scrap it all.

Nice, these guys don't even know how to listen to feedback
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Well, shit. I feel an "unsatisfying disconnect" when the only option I have is to get a censored and butchered game.

Didn't get FE, won't be getting this.
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>>331247284
As a Jap can confirm this, living in the United States compared to Japan is almost night and day difference for me for the hardcore gaming audience.

Jap friend gamers hate Dark Souls and it really isn't even that hard, it is bull shit because every action game has to be a Warrior's clone or it sucks to them.
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>>331245530
>>331246642
This would be a very original premise and one of the only instances in videogames that happens along all the game.

Now we have just another jrpg
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>>331245752
Man, their first time is going to be awkward as hell.Magonila might have to dominate Yew for a bit to get him to take more intuitive
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>Bravely Default has several loops with barely any changes
>people hate it

>Bravely Second removes 2 loops per quest with even less changes
>now people want their loops back
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>>331243621
While the complete removal is stupid, the way these "bad ends" were implemented was just terrible.
Finish the game 3 times to get every job and every good end? Fuck off, that shit makes BD's reashed chapters look like genius game design in comparison.
In the end we probably got the better version.
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>>331250401
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>>331250585
This is the only reason I don't mind this change. Bravely Default was 8/10 brought down to a 7/10 because of the rehashed boss fights. I REALLY hope Bravely Third doesn't pull this shit again.
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>>331251297

Bravely Third needs a bigger budget so they can actually afford new assets and they need to ease up on the anime tropes.
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Reminder /v/ sent a card to these fuckers and are now paying the price for it. Might teach you a lesson next time you decide to shill.
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>>331251538
>so they can actually afford new assets
they should just redo the game and it's engine almost from scratch and learn from their mistakes
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>>331251753
Square did this.
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>>331251538
What it needs is a competent team doing gameplay and non retarded writers who think every generic anime plot/character tropes in existence is good writing.

You can really tell the new writers took over terribly from the after credit cutscene of BD where Magnolia appears and what the final product became.
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>>331251753
This is Square being told directly by NoA and NoE.
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So have they made a statement on the artbook yet, or are they ignoring that subject?
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>>331243621
It's a good thing we have NoA to watch out for us in case of potential sadness. How did this fucking company become the poster boy for how not to localize a game over night?
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>>331251957
>>331252268

No Nintendo did this, it literally says so in the OP and it was confirmed Nintendo did it
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>>331252227

It's a shame when good franchises get run into the ground like this. Reminds me of Valkyria chronicles 2 in a way.

Both still have great gameplay but the writing got turned into even more cliches than before.
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>Potential regret

What the fuck are they going on about? Most of these side quests involved characters that were outright killed by Tiz and group in Default. Why are they all suddenly alive again? Why does no one give a shit about the red mage who was locking girls up in his rape dungeon who is now a university lecturer?

The entire plot was a disaster before potential regret became an issue.
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>>331252527
NoA has always been fucking terrible, from the very beginning. They're just getting even worse now.
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>>331252870

I assume either the new team thought they stayed in the last loop were everyone was alive or they just said fuck it because they couldn't afford to make new characters.
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>>331252867
There's a line from the original cutscene that Magnolia says that makes me suspect the original premise for Bravely Second was vastly different

>"You get to live in the same era as me, you lucky dog!"

But now it's only 2 years later.
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>>331251957
>link literally proves NINTENDO did it
>HURR SQUARE

Fuck off you shills
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>>331254330

Maybe you should actually read it

>the development team at Square Enix, in conjunction with Silicon Studio, decided to implement a number of revisions to the game for the purpose of improving its quality and creating a more enjoyable product.
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>>331254460
That's not what it says.
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>>331254494

Why are you lying when the link is in the op and everyone can read it himself?
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Feels good playing best version
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>>331243621
>Nintendo taking the blame
>SE and Binari Sonari are the ones handling the actual localization
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>>331255525
You mean the meme translation?
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>>331255992

I mean uncensored version.

Aside from enemy crab, i didn't see any memes in the game
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>>331256226
The constant gravy puns are meme unto themselves.
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>>331243621
Nintendo knows the majority of it's current western audience are little kids and autistic man children. They literally have to do this.
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>>331256559

They are in the untranslated versions as well though.

They just made Yew say it instead of Magnolia
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>>331255525
do I need a hacked 3DS for that version?
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>>331257065

Yes
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>>331253295
The problems started with them being cheap bastards and firing the Steins;Gate writer who did the original story for Bravely Default and then not going to Revo again, especially since he didn't actually do anything during the time the soundtrack and everything else of the game was being made, so once again we got a shitty watered down version of a game because SE tries to cut as many corners as they poissibly can and wonder why people got pissed with Second
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>>331255525
Oh fuck they made an uncensor patch already? Thanks for letting me know m8
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>>331258060

People got their priorities right
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>>331256718
I will never ever understand why they did this.
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>>331257838
Didn't the Japanese version had tons of internet memes and other really annoying jokes?

Personally I wish they kept it. I'm fine with redoing the game on NG+ if it felt like something new was happening. The problem with the first game was that the last half was just redoing everything over and over again with no sense of progression. Seem here there actually is progression with how things has changed.
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>>331258171
Because Bravely Second is a shitty game on both lenguages and the only people who care about this pice of shit are the jackasses on america who can't learn a single other lenguage to help themselves
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>>331258171
It's cute. Both have this little gravy thing going between them.
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>>331258262
IT had a whole bunch of internet slangs that didn't actually make any sense in the story, think the Neptunia memes
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>>331243621
So are they going to issue a statement on why they altered or cut the costumes in Bravely Second and Fire Emblem: Fates?

Yes that rustles my jimmies.
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But the article said that SE and Silicon Knights are the ones that did it, not Nintendo.

Nintendo is just saying what happened
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>>331259093
Much more fun to shitpost than to read
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>>331259093
>Based on feedback received after Bravely Second: End Layer's release in Japan, the development team at Square Enix, in conjunction with Silicon Studio, decided to implement a number of revisions to the game for the purpose of improving its quality and creating a more enjoyable product.
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Are Magnolia and Yew statistically like Agnes and Ringabel?
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>yfw Edeas dad had probably caught her masturbating
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Nintendo doesn't even have any say in the localization of Bravely Second, they only funded it.
Stop blaming Nintendo, this is all on Square.
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>>331250401
It's almost as if it's not the same group of people complaining.
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>>331243621
And spec-ops is literally "you're a bad person: the walking sim", but it's still (generally) appreciated as a good game.
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>>331245530
>>want access to the steal command rob an entite country if water
fuck, I want the steal command
there was all kinds of shit in the first game where you could only get copies of if you stole it from a boss
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The side quests are the least of the problem with this game, and at the very least, post best boy.
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>>331255676
Nintendo paid for the localization, and got to dictate what's changed. This is what they do as publisher.
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>>331252870
It's implied that at the very least the White Mage and Monk survived regardless of the loop you were in since a later loop revealed that the mage cast an auto-revive spell and they just played dead until the group left. If it happens in that loop, it's fucking retarded to not think it happened in all the other loops.
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Japanese shit taste strikes again
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>We're protecting you from feeling bad about choices.

Fuck everyone involved in this decision, and fuck the drones defending it.
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Dude youre not going for nintendo games if youre looking for GOOD storytelling. cmon now japanese in general suck at storytelling ( except dark souls, and thats mostly world building)
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>>331255525
Do I need to pirate to use this patch? I was dumb and bought it.
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>>331245886
>not siding with the Red Mage because he tried to rape Edea and had a literal sex dungeon
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>>331245053
Who cares?
Best guy got best girl.
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>>331243621
why the tomahawk change then?
especially for europe

there was literally nothing wrong with the japanese version
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>>331245053
This isn't your personal blog. Go cry on tumblr
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>>331243621
the development team at Square Enix, in conjunction with Silicon Studio, decided to implement a number of revisions to the game for the purpose of improving its quality and creating a more enjoyable product.

Nintendo didn't change anything you fucking idiots. It was square.
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Why didn't they just make it a fucking option?
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>>331260940
Because japan confused the lone gunman cowboy archetype with an injun
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From what I heard the only thing they changed was some dialogue at the end of the quest.

You had to choose a side and each side ended with the character saying what they did sucked.

Now they end with them saying maybe it didn't suck so much.
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>>331260940
Because Nintendo is terrified of the whole Redskins debacle.
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>>331261292
they could've placed the bad endings in the Hard Mode of the game so there's a reason to play it besides the difficulty
but, that's just my opinion on the matter
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>>331260694

You just need to be hacked, put the patch on your sd, run bootntr and start the game. Pretty sure it should work with the cart
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>>331261613
No, Nintendo of America could have left it the fuck alone, let players have their choice, and let kids also playing it learn that there are consequences for being little pricks.
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>>331261613

>play hardmode
>get worse endings for your trouble
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>>331261714
awww fuck yeah
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>>331261737
Cry some more of your bitch tears a new thing to be angry about will appear in a few months and you will forget censorship, just like it happened with the 60fps debable once you saw that your crying will not change fucking anything
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>Daddy Nintendo saving us from feeling sad.

This company is a joke.
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So I'm confused, did they completely remove options from the game that would lead to a bad end or did they just rewrite those bad ends to be good ends but otherwise the game is 100% intact?
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>>331261613
>play hard mode
>for bad ending
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>>331261872

https://mega.nz/#!MYpWULxJ!1MGXjygbipq52vSZKhxvUmcJio_GucEijNt1mJQVEZw
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>>331262034
In a few months, we'll be laughing at how poorly this game sold here too.
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>>331243621

>b-but...slippery slope is a meme ;_;
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>>331261737
>Nintendo
Nintendo had nothing to do with it, moron
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>>331261737

You still have the choice and the choice had no impact on getting a bad ending
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>>331262290

>still posting this image that implies the quest cuts are an entire ending for the game that got cut

And i've yet to see the "heavily altered dialoge"
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If Nintendo cared about their customers at all, they'd remove the region lock on their consoles. That way, the fans can play their games unmolested (I know that the Asian version of Bravely Default has English text) and casual gamers can still enjoy their NoA translations. As it happens, Nintendo don't care about their fans, which drives people to hack their consoles and pirate everything.
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>>331262527
>And i've yet to see the "heavily altered dialoge"
>>331256718
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>>331262578

That's just because they wanted to keep Magnolia foreign.

She speaks english in the japanese version which would be hard to get accross in the translation, so they changed english to french.
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>>331262090
>dense motherfucker can't read
Square, not Nintendo
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>>331262991
What'd they change it to in the French translation?
Spanish?
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>>331263227

Might have kept it as english? Not sure.

Any frenchmen here?
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>>331243621
>Based on feedback received after Bravely Second: End Layer's release in Japan, the development team at Square Enix, in conjunction with Silicon Studio, decided to implement a number of revisions to the game for the purpose of improving its quality and creating a more enjoyable product.

One such change affects the game's optional side quests, where players encounter a conflict between two opposing parties and choose which party to side with.

When the game was released in Japan, each side quest would end with the team lamenting the decision they made, regardless of the player's decision. This was intended to help players empathise with the characters' situation, but overwhelming feedback from players indicated that they felt an unsatisfying disconnect between their intentions and the characters' reactions. In response, these side quest endings were amended to show the party readily coming to terms with their actions in a manner that does not cause the player undue regret for their decisions.

These changes do not affect the gameplay or the course of events in the game, and were made with the intention of improving the game experience for players.

Goddamn, you faggots don't read into shit at all.
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>>331244712
This

Japs hate grey decisions, but we love it.
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>>331262578
>And i've yet to see the "heavily altered dialoge"

Because making references from a 1955 show was in the original heh.
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>>331263787
>and were made with the intention of improving the game experience for players.
Well they didn't.

They made it worse.
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BEFORE THIS GOES ANY FURTHER REALIZE SOMETHING:

>the entire plot of the game was built around player feed back and popularity polls
>literally the entire game is an anime adventure with a random hot spring village, awful romances, and terribly written out of character plot
>the writers and REVO from the last game were replaced and had no idea where to pick up the story and atmosphere
>most of the assets in BS are reused from BD, including music, costume models, entire dungeons, and cities
>because this game was so rushed (in Japan) there were plenty of awful enemy animations and clipping, only some of these were fixed in the localized version (keep in mind this localization is being releases AN ENTIRE YEAR after it's Japanese release)
>the sound quality in the localized version is inexcusably bad, likewise, no dual audio
>the voice actors are just awful, they range from mediocre to plain garbage, not simply because they sound bad but some don't even fit the personalities of the characters
>most, if not all, the returning characters are written out of character or just poorly written in general, some examples: Edea only cares about food, Anges cares about sweets more than the crystals, Ringabel's only defining characteristic now is obsessing over Edea, Tiz has no personality what so ever and barely speaks

now for gameplay

>just as broken as before
>the depth of the game has also gone down with bosses being less complex and relying on shit gimmicks, like Diamante's retard force shield, and "ghost" element status
>new jobs are either mediocre, like Guardian, or just replace old jobs with a new costume
>game is pathetically easy once Chapter 5 hits, you also get swamped with so much JP and EXP drops you need to turn it off if you want to keep any ounce of difficulty
>Quad wield, plus mimic, and meteor rain are probably more broken than the last game's combos


These are all the issues with the new game, not the shitty subquests.
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>>331264030

>removing tiny changes you'd have to replay each quest 4 times for
>not an improvement

>>331263967

The entire meaning of the japanese is in there though, they just added one more sentence
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As it fucking should, maybe SE will learn not to half ass it again
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>>331264138
>keep in mind this localization is being releases AN ENTIRE YEAR after it's Japanese release
that's nothing new for Nintendo
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>>331264263
>Making the game designed more for lazy shitters that would prefer a mobile gacha game over an actual game
>Better
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>>331264138
Fuck off
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So I haven't really followed the plot to BS. How do the loops work this time? Now all the side quests are replayed and each time you can do "better," except now they've removed the sad loops?
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>>331264430
The point is there is still plenty of issues with this game that should have been fixed in the localization. That's why it takes long, to runs bug fixes, they didn't even take the find and fix the fucking basic ones.

>>331264498
Tell this thread to fuck off first.
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>>331243621
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is a game aimed at children using pokemon, a medium specifcally aimed at children;

It is the devourer of emotional anguish. It is a creature sustained on crippling the psyche of small children.

Plus there's misty, for 8-year old boners.

Bravely Defaulting Your loan 2: Repo men's second visit - Platinum watch edition is a game aimed not at children that must not make you sad, or aroused.

has anyone considered the idea that Nintendo is actually just fufilling their intent of literally catering for children? as in not "what parents want children to want" but more "what that one weird creepy fucking kid who started masturbating when they were six and new about girl pee-pee way too easily" kind of way?

That's my theory post elaborately covering this six I just got.
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>>331264138

This.
The game was rushed and written worse than the first, outright contradicting it at points
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>>331264263
>The entire meaning of the japanese is in there though, they just added one more sentence

The entire meaning is different. She sounds overly aggressive, while in the original she's softly calling him out.

Here, have another Pop Culture reference, because you sure sound you love that.
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>>331262189
>>331261810
Stop being chucklefucks. I'm 99% sure he means making the choice have consequence in Hard mode, while Normal removes the risk
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>>331265164
You realize the consequences only effect the subquest.
YOU REALIZE SUB QUEST ARE IN NO WAY EFFECTING THE MAIN STORY.

They might as well not exist. The characters don't come back, your decision does not effect the ending, it does not effect the twist, it ISN'T EVEN MENTIONED BY ANY CHARACTER EVER AGAIN.

The sub quests are so irrelevant (and so are the jobs, you don't even really need any of them) THEY DON'T EVEN NEED TO BE IN THE GAME.

I don't know how to stress this further. You and many others are lamenting over cut content that was barely content to begin with!
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>>331261737
Nintendo of America DID leave it the fuck alone, they didn't fucking localize it.
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>>331264973
>obscure american references in the european translation

Anyways, gets the point across and is a literal throwaway line regardless. Most people here won't even recognize the reference.

Not nearly as bad as the changes in Fates which really change the entire meanings and far from "heavily altered"
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>>331265442
So why remove it at all? Again, they probably could've just made it a difficulty setting like with the encounter rate and both sides would be happy
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>>331264973
>Here, have another Pop Culture reference, because you sure sound you love that.
It's literally dr seuss dude.

I can understand getting upset by ebin memes but why get upset at this.
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>>331244317
>actions have consequences
>late game event allows you to get good ending
>remove consquences, make late game event irrelevant
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>>331265164

Unless they alter it completely your choices still wouldn't matter as you get a bad ending on the first run regardless of what you choose
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>>331265442
>Guys forget the millions of other people who died in WW2, six million of them were jews, that's the MAIN STORY.

Don't make me cut your content.
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>>331265489
>Dr. Seuss
>obscure
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>>331265549

Because people complained about loops so much in the first game with it being the main negative point 90% of critics mentioned
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>>331264138
>Tiz has no personality what so ever
Sounds pretty in-character to me.
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>>331265808
Except you glided over the part where I basically said "Why not just make it optional?"
The loops weren't 100% optional and that was the issue
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>>331264138
tiz didnt have a personality in the first game though!
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>>331265747

For most of europe, yes.
Not sure about brits.
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>>331265549
>So why remove it at all?
PLAYER
FEEDBACK

That is the ENTIRE issue with this game.
It's why the entire cast came back.
Is why they all fuck each other in the end.
It's why they only talk about food.
It's why there is an awful romance hamfisted into the plot.
It's why it's an anime adventure with no substance like the last game.
It's why everything is feel good until the end.
It's why Ringabel was fucked out of the plot.
It's why YEW (as in YOU) fall in love with the cover girl Magnolia.

It goes on, and on, and on.
It's a mess, and the subquest isn't even 1% of the entire problem.

>>331265690
refer to the above
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>>331259751
Yew is more like Tiz 2.0 but less endearing. He at least has some background and motivation.

Magnolia looked like she was going to be this smug semen demon from the moon but she just ends up being this flat, boring character that has little reason being there. She does nothing without sucking Yew's dick or going on about how great Yew is.

Best girl design. Worst girl character.
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The localization in both games his hilarious backwards.

>Censor lewd clothes
>Keep the rape dungeon, child slavery and genocide plotpoints
>Change delicious native american to a delicious cowgal thinking that's somehow less racist
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>>331265874
>>331265908

Compared to Bravely Default he did.
It's honestly that fucking bad.
He literally doesn't do anything. Anything at all. Ever.
He's so not a character that he even serves as a mouth piece for another character who becomes more important than him.
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>>331265901

Many people would play hardmode because they like a challenge, not because of the choices.

Maybe make it a switch for all difficulties like: "Do you want to see some extended content on sidequests?"
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Thank god I didn't buy this shit.
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>>331265951
Yep, could tell the moment i saw her she was going to be an awful charactet
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>>331245530
That sounds really cool though, having to do horrible things in game to unlock really useful abilities so you can accomplish whatever over-reaching goal is a really interesting way to do moral choices in games because instead of going "do I want ending A or B" you're actively changing your game experience

"I really want to steal or be a white mage, am I okay with doing something this stupid" would hit me way more than dozens of "do you side with this group or the other" options you see in every wrpg
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Not the best thread to ask this, but is BS decent enough to be worth playing if i liked the first? Is the european version censored or downgraded in any way? Is there dual audio if the voice acting is bad?
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>>331245230
they just do what ever they want man
they just say that stuff as an excuse so people dont get too mad
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>>331266225
Her first appearance at the end of Default had me interested.

But that was about it. Honestly looking back at that cutscene and her character in Second they may as well be 2 different characters.
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>>331266265
The European version is the same as the murrican version and was released beforehand.

It's more or less a straight sequel to the first one, with new jobs and exactly the same battle system

Music is by a different composer and falls short compared to the first game, but is still alright sometimes.

So, do you just want more of the same? Then get it. Or pirate it like I did.
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>>331266237

I wouldn't have minded the bad endings to be the only quest endings as well, i just wouldn't replay the game two more times to see both
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>>331266382
I thought BD and FF5 were great
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>>331265587
>expecting 4chan ultrafaggots not to shit the bed any time any game makes any reference to anything ever
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>>331265984
>And i've yet to see the "heavily altered dialogue"

Because a Star Wars Reference in a Fantasy Game makes perfect sense. You guys sure love your pop culture references huh.
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>>331266265
BS is pretty shit.
If you loved the combat of the first, try it.
If you loved the story of BD, avoid BS like the plague.
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>>331266543
>>331264973
autism.jpg
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>>331266265

You will be dissapointed by the plot but it's still nice enough if you liked the gameplay.

I pirated it with no regrets.

EU version alters some costumes but you can patch them back in >>331255525
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>>331264773
The difference between PMD and this is that no matter what choice you make in Bravely Second, you end up getting fucked over with the characters saying "We shouldn't have picked this side". There was an overwhelming negative reaction among Japanese players to it, so Nintendo and Square-Enix decided to change it. What's the point in having a choice if no matter what you regret it?

The better route would have been to make a third "neutral" option where everything turns out well, but still left the "bad" options instead of changing the "bad" options to "neutral" options.
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>>331266543
>allusions are only allowed if the fictional character who makes it would have direct personal knowledge of the source
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>>331266543
>Because a Star Wars Reference in a Fantasy Game makes perfect sense.

Did you read what you wrote before posting it? There had been an on going Star Wars reference in every FF for a fucking decade, you stupid shit.

There are actually people that don't know this, holy shit.
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>>331266543
Biggs and Wedge.
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>>331266543

>japanese
Tiz tries to esp the guards away
>english
Tiz tries to use the force to move the guards away

Still don't see the altered meanings, senpai
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>>331264138
>no dual audio
That's not true.
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>>331266864
>literally
>LITERALLY
>acknowledges that Tiz was using "the force"
>i don't see the difference

you are

completely fucking retarded
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>>331266543
>Because a Star Wars Reference in a Fantasy Game makes perfect sense

It does actually. FF's have had star wars references since like ff4
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>>331267021

It's the same fucking meaning, no matter which kind of psychic force he uses
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>>331267021
>choosing this one to respond to after getting obliterated repeatedly in other posts
lol
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>>331266971
Yes it is. Was cut to make room on the cart.
Also why the sound quality is so bad in general.
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>>331267021
Stop lying anon.

No one references the force. Tiz does the image, the npcs fuck off, then the others state how lucky he is. The cutscene ends and you get a message on how to alter encounter rates.
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>>331243621
>Went from making Kirby mad on every cover to not being able to show shit that made people sad
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>>331267192
No it wasn't. Have you actually played the game?
Most of the other complaints are actually valid, but it has dual audio.
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>>331267262
I didn't know Square localized all the Kirby games!
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>>331267192

Take a look at the options menu
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>>331267192
Stop telling porky pies, anon.
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>>331245810
It's not a moral choice though, it's just supposed to look like one because no matter what you do it's wrong even if you as the player can clearly see a way to solve the problem.
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>>331267587
that's so obviously the first game it isn't funny
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>Bravely Default thread
>expand all images
>no thighs
Why even live
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>>331267038
>>331266787

>FF's have had star wars references since like ff4

Last time i checked, this game's name was Bravely Second. Even if the system is a throwback to classic FF's, it's still a different game. And again. This was not in the original script.

>>331267192

This game has dual-audio. But what they say in the original audio don't always match what is written. This is another case of dubtitles
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>>331245886

This is what gets me about BD's censorship. They cover up the bravado bikini, but it's pretty clear DeRosa has a Bible Black lair under the streets.
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>>331267801
There's been little to no fanart of Second since it was released.
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>>331267310
>>331267587
>>331267723

Oops I feel stupid
I meant dual audio as in dual speaker audio, heh. Sorry, it is late...

>>331267837
It's a fucking FF game, everything about it is FF, from it's original concept and story, don't kid yourself.
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>>331267948
You can leave now if you feel ashamed
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>>331267948
>It's a fucking FF game

The boxart says otherwise thought, can't you read?
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>>331243621
>Westerners LITERALLY are too kiddy to handle bad feelings.

But that applies only to the Japanese, Nintendo just assumed gaijinshi would feel the same way

You're dumb
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>>331268167
You're boring.
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>>331267914
>>331267801

>There's been little to no fanart of Second since it was released.

Do you go on pixiv? There is plenty of Magnolia, by herself.
Fanart, recent ones, have gone down recently, the game is a year old in Japan.

Also you're expecting fan art for a game that was kind of badly received (at least not to the level they expected). If you compare the amount of fan content that exists between BD and BS, it's rather sad. BD has twice the amount of fanart, in fact people still pop out art celebrating BD's release date, 3 years after the fact. I'll be surprised if i see any for BS.

Though I do have some Magnolia, let me dig through my folder for some of the better ones of her I saved.
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>>331268191
>Nintendo
>You're dumb
And you're dumber
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Japan hates moral ambiguity? Why are half their villains pretty-boy genocidal murderers who you're supposed to sympathize with?
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>>331267775

Keep shitposting on
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>>331264973
>>331263967
Funny, I normally complain about stuff like this but these are perfectly fine to me.
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Let's ask the really important questions here

http://strawpoll.me/7098358/
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>>331267837
you're trying too hard
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>>331268426
nice photoshop
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>>331268630
>http://strawpoll.me/7098358/
>No "neither, i'm just here to shitpost" option
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>>331268426
Looks fake, you can see the phone taking the video in the reflection
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>>331266331
>they just do what ever they want man

why is it that they always seem to want to remove content?
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>>331268167
It reads FF to me.
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>>331263967

memes so dank
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>>331268978

1955 memes
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>>331269295

they were the dankest o times
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>>331266543
Reminder that one of the main complaints JAPANESE AUDIENCES had with this game was the meme dialog.
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>>331264138
>the voice actors are just awful

Damn, i liked the voice acting in Default
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>>331268308
Came with the fan art I promised.
If you got a request, male or female, I can fill it.

I have comics too.
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>>331271074
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>>331271194
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>>331269934
Tiz and Yew are okay but the audio quality on Edea and especially Magnolia is fucking terrible. You can really hear it whenever a word with 'S' in it is pronounced.
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>>331271303
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Alright, I'm playing the demo and the AR scene was neat like Agnes holding you and is running away from someone. The question is: Was the entire scene censored? I couldn't see Agnes's panties due to those black voids.
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>>331265442
Random battles and overworlds also have no impact on the story, should we remove those too?

Stop being a fucking retard.
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>>331269295
Just means they've had time to ferment.
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>>331271330
The audio quality is one thing, I think he means the VAs they picked were bad.

Janne was bad, tomahawk girl was awful, pastry boy was awful, did they change Brave's voice he sounds off?

Several others too.

>>331271414
They actually do because when you level, it effects how well you do in the game. Getting an ending dialog removed from an otherwise useless sub quest? Nah, not really that impacting.
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>>331271330
Are they keeping the Voice actors of Default?
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>>331271623
But if random battles were removed, boss fights would be balanced around not levelling off them, so why don't we just remove them? In fact, why not just make everything between bosses pure cutscenes? After all, all that walking on the world and exploring dungeons doesn't actually affect the story.
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>>331271721
Edea, Tiz, Ringabel and Agnes are all the same

>>331271623

I kind of liked Janne's voice, just the right amount of cockiness you want from an antagonist.
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>>331271623
>Janne was bad, tomahawk girl was awful

This. A lot of people have a boner for Janne for some reason in spite of his horrible voice and shitty motivations. Aimee's voice.. What were they thinking?
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>>331272246

I really don't like that cutscene art
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>>331266543

This is actually somewhat charming and much better than simply "go away" DESU.
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>>331268940
then get a prescription for your eyes in the nearest optician.
you can't even see words clearly from 50 cm away
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I would of preferred the second game only having Agnes,Edea and Magonila as party members just for their thighs, dear god, their thighs. I wanna lick them, lick, lick, lick
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>>331272636

Lewd
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>>331272162
>>331272246

Janne's voice wasn't horrible, but compared to his Japanese voice which was amazing, it's a pretty bad drop in quality.

>A lot of people have a boner for Janne for some reason
Because he was good in the demo, would have added costume variation, you actually felt bad for him, he wasn't badly written as some of the others (he wasn't good, but not horrible like the others involved in the Empire), his connection with Yew was believable (though he didn't really have a reason to be pals with Nikolai), his character design is top notch, and without the revenge shit pulling him down, he would have made a fun character.

That's pretty much why, at least all the reasons I can think of. I hope he comes back, he had potential.
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>>331272792
>Janne's voice wasn't horrible

Yes it is. Sounds like the VA should of voiced some random annoying side character instead. He is your cliche anime childhood friend that turns on you. He shouldn't even of had any sympathy either, he killed tons of people.
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>>331245620
>I want the toy company that made my baby games when I was a kid to make more mature products now that I'm an adult!
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>>331245230
Localizers get paid to change things.
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>People un-ironically expecting to play a JRPG in 2016 that don't have broken mechanics and/or worse-than-anime stories.
>mfw

It's a video game, try to have some god damn fun and stop taking shit so seriously.
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>bad endings makes me feel bad so it is bad

Why is Nintendo treating us like toddlers?
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>>331274154
>the development team at Square Enix, in conjunction with Silicon Studio
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>>331273262
His voice matched his character, and no, there are worse sounding rivals. He wasn't edgy and dark, he was bitter and young. The kind of bitter you are when you're young and stupid minded.

>He is your cliche anime childhood friend
Except he wasn't. He became friends with the sappy ass MC to try and kill him but couldn't do it. For some cosmic reason (yes this wasn't explained, it should have been) Yew was too important to him.
The point of this is, that connect was believable. Can you honestly tell me if Yew's connection with either Anges, Tiz, Edea, Magnolia, or his brother were more believable?
The game reminded you about Janne, made you feel a little sorry for him in Chapter 4, and Janne, while in the party, was entertaining. I think Janne is the only character that forced Yew to have character development and become something other than a whinny bitch, the members in his party did nothing. Really nothing.

And lastly
>He shouldn't even of had any sympathy either, he killed tons of people

This happened in Chapter 5, when the whole story completely falls apart for everyone involved, literally anything any character did was just overwritten for Yew's magical negotiation powers. Everyone became awful, no character was immune to the shitty writing. This is also when I dropped the game unsurprisingly.


>>331273913
The main complaint is, none of that was really in BD. The combat is the same but it shouldn't be. Is it wrong to expect some improvements? They reused assets and classes and replaced broken mechanics with even more broken mechanics.

And the story in BD was actually decent as far as JRPGs go, that's why people liked it. BS is a steep drop in quality, very.
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>>331268978
>>331269295
It's called a reference you flame-retardant cocksuckers. Christ.
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>>331274674

>And the story in BD was actually decent as far as JRPGs go, that's why people liked it. BS is a steep drop in quality, very.

Hahahaha fuck no.

"Edea, my daughter, what you're doing is wrong and bad. I'm not going to tell you WHY though."

"My goal of AntiCrystalism is to remove the corrupting influences of the indolent Church. So lemme just hire a user of WMDs and a literal date rapist as top officials in my army."

"Hey, guys. Guys. Do you think there's something off about Airy?"
"Hm... maybe. She's pretty suspicious. We need to keep an eye on her."
-Later-
"Airy betrayed us???? Who could have seen this coming?"

"So in one reality Agnes fell through the Holy Pillar and survived long enough to pass on the message to DeRossa and Yulyana from that world. After that EVERY incarnation of Yulyana and DeRosso magically know about the Angel and what to do about it."
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>>331274892

I'm just making fun of the complaint
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>>331274892
>references so dank
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>>331275219

Reminder that we played the for the sequel version. Many of the foreshadowing parts weren't in the original game
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>>331275219
>decent as far as JRPGs go

JRPGs are not exactly known for quality writing.
But to comment on your shit examples:

>Edea was supposed to be stupid, too stupid to ask that question
>Brave didn't know his top officials were working behind his back, he exiled them from Eternia upon realizing it, he didn't realize this because of his obsession to destroy the Orthodoxy
>they new for some time something was wrong with Airy and even admit it in conversation, they kept going down the path because they didn't know what else to do, their ages were changed in the west version but the party is actually comprised of stupid children with Ringabel as the only legal adult
>Ringabel saw Airy coming from the start
>there was an explanation on how worlds connect specifically with Yulyana and his probably being Ringabel

Why don't you give the wiki a quick read before jumping to conclusions?
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>>331275781
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People actually cared to play this game even after watching those godawful previews? Literally nothing but the new classes would have kept the people who liked BD from coming back, and we know how those turned out.
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>>331276873
There are plenty of people who will be tricked by the demo, which is better than the game.
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>>331277456
What makes the full game worse?
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>>331277613
Other than the audio still being bad (which is a red flag)

Better team
Better dialog
Better banter
The non canon quest is entertaining enough
The fights are fun.

Once you start the game your team, which you enjoyed in the demo, is replaced with a boring one with rehashed Edea and Tiz and the gamplay doesn't hold up once the brokenness of the jobs begins to show through. Likewise, you get to watch the quality in the writing drop; chapter, by chapter.

Think of it like a bull shot for burgers at a fast food joint. The picture looks great, and then when you get the real thing, it doesn't look anything like you thought it would. Kind of like someone stepped on it and offered it to you with a smile.
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>>331266507
I would.
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>>331243621

I don't really give a fuck why

They should have left that shit alone
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This is beyond censorship at this point. This is just cutting shit out for no GOOD reason.
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SO what exactly was even altered?

contemplating playing the uncensored euro version of Bravely Second, It only has the original costumes though. I can understand eliminating redundant garbage, from what i've been reading it's just some open ended bullshit that went nowhere and wasted time, but if they cut it cause it's "sad" then i'll just wait till I can actually read japanese.
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>>331278687
Punishing you for wanting to go back and get a job you missed isn't a good reason? Sub quests were horribly written and a chore to go through. Their stories were pointless.

What would adding them change? What would removing them change? Pretty much nothing. Still bad either way.
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>>331278892

Japan complained about the sidequests being frustrating because all of them had a bad end no matter what you did.

Square and Silicon decided to react to the negative response for the foreign market.

/v/ complains like babies.
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>>331278892

Just read >>331264138
Sums up the problems with the game pretty well.

Finally starting to run out of decent female lewd, what would people want next?

I've got:
misc comics (in Japanese)
Ringabel
Janne
BS group shots of the party
Geist

Someone pick one.
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>>331273913
>try to have some god damn fun
I would if they would stop cutting content from my games.
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>>331279231

/v/ always complains

>>331279269

Group shots
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>>331279631
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>>331278892

The only legitimate censorship are costumes and artbook, both can be got around if you pirate
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>>331264973
>>331263967

As someone who's been bitching non-stop about Fire Emblem changes (which are legitimately fucking not okay) these are perfectly fine
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>>331279703
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>>331279769

That guy is the kind of person that thinks everything other than word for word translations is raping the original work
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>>331279853
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>>331279740

>Pirating gets you around images removed from the physical art book

u wot
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>>331280019
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>>331280042

You know people can those and post them right?
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>>331279853
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>Westerners

You mean Nintenyearolds. Sony still pulls in all the sex, drugs, and gore and that's just in their rated T masterpiece "Uncharted". Feels good that Sony is against censorship.
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>>331280042

Someone is likely to have bought and scanned it by now
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>>331280321

>implying no censorship on Sony consoles
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>>331279918

Either that or he's false flagging
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>>331243621
>When the game was released in Japan, each side quest would end with the team lamenting the decision they made, regardless of the player's decision. This was intended to help players empathise with the characters' situation, but overwhelming feedback from players indicated that they felt an unsatisfying disconnect between their intentions and the characters' reactions. In response, these side quest endings were amended to show the party readily coming to terms with their actions in a manner that does not cause the player undue regret for their decisions.

Doesn't sound like the endings were actually changed, just the party's reactions.
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>>331280181
>>331280340

I get you, but that's not quite the same as having a physical art book

You could always import one but that's kind of pricy
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>>331280398
Not BS but I really want to post it.
>Artemia's fucking face
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>>331280545

Pirating the game and importing the artbook probably doesn't cost you much more than the collectors edition
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>>331280406
The "censored" Xenosaga pic is the japanese one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg9OYyPIYNk
Minute 3:45
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>>331280398
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>>331280512
no. theres entirely different dialogues for first time endings versus loop endings. this is quite literally removing character development from an RPG.
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>>331280707
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>Want to import Agnes figure from Europe since we don't get it

>$90 on eBay

Fucking hell, it's not that nice
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>>331280406

Those Xenosaga ones are kind of unfair.

They were so the game wouldn't be rated M. Namco had no faith in an M rated JRPG.

Now that scene in III that just removes blood for no real reason? I can give you that one.
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At least people can import on Sony consoles since they are not region locked, right?

It's not optimal of course, but beats paying for a neutered version.
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>>331280860

>90€ for a below nendo quality figure
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>>331280723

Not him, but thank you. I've been saying in these threads I thought that was the case, but I wasn't sure.
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>>331280981

Dlc and vita memory cards are locked though
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>>331281004

$90 though

But still
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>>331281004
>them thighs
God
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>>331281065

For DLC don't you just need to import point cards?
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>>331280839
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>>331281038
Is really weird, japanese version has blood but the american version has the decapited Albedo's head talking. Other weird changes happen in II too.

The only real censored Xenosaga game is III but III focuses on other stuff so is not a big deal.
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>>331281264
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>>331281160

You need to play the game on an account of the region it's from, import cards and purchase the dlc of that region.

There are no warnings on out of region dlc either, so you might buy some and then find out it doesnt work on your first import
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>>331281264
>Twintails
muhdiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick
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>>331262290
>Removed the bad ending

What?
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Wait a fuckin' minute here. Didn't Square originally say Nintendo was the one who made these changes, despite Nintendo not being in charge of the localization? How is Ninty saying that Square is doing it now after Square said the opposite?
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>>331281530
Gonna switch to some Ring-a-ding now

>>331281690
He really has twin tails with that job outfit you know.
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>>331281832

>>331281828
It's a mystery.
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I think I accidentally skipped he AR video in the demo because I had to close the game when it was starting

Is there a way to re-view it?
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>>331282047

>>331282070
Yeah, by selecting AR movie.
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>>331243621

The most frustrating thing about all of this is that with this statement they're going to consider the issue solved

Especially when masses of people buy it anyways.
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>>331280406
All of the games on the right were solely decided by the publisher's descretion not Sony. Games like Senran Kagura, DOA, and the like are allowed to flourish. In Nintendo's consoles, first-party games with any risque type content are guaranteed to get censored or "localized" in some form. It used to be Nintendo actively pressured third-party devs to also censor their titles but now they are desperately trying to get all of that third-party support they want on their machines, which the bulk have been absorbed by Sony, Microsoft, and the PC. The only thing saving Nintendo from full collapse now is the 3DS. Without the large library of games and accessibility it has, Nintendo would have been finished. And this is coming from a life-long fan who first bought the SNES and 64 when they came out but not blinded by nostalgia to realize Nintendo is heading in the wrong direction. I hate to say this but unless the NX is a competent machine(which I doubt it'll be), they are finished. They can't respect their own fans, are abusing DLC in the form of "amiibo", and are not delivering the kind of games fans want(such as a proper Metroid Prime and Paper Mario game without all the gimmick sh*t). I've lost faith in them to actually rebound.
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>>331282132

>>331282146
Nothing can excuse how bad BS is overall.
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>>331282132

I don't see such an option

Only

[New Game]
[New Game]
[New Game]
[Special gifts] [Delete] [Copy]
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>>331281828

Maybe Nintendo forced the costume changes and Square choose to cut out the unnecessary quest loops?

And the whole Nintendo did it part was just hearsay on a podcast
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>>331282220
It should be in the options when selecting a new game.

If not, I don't know what to tell ya.
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>>331282302
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>>331282302

Nope

What the fuck

RIP me
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>>331282201

>bravely default
>project zero
>first party
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>>331282201
Senran Kagura is on Nintendo consoles and all they do is not mention the characters ages just like they do on Sony consoles.
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>>331282201
>first-party
>sh*t
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>>331282378
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>>331280398
I'm still mad this isn't the actual party
God forbid they have to make three whole outfits per job instead of two
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>>331282201

Senran Kagura is a bad example, it's uncut on nintendo as well
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>>331282591
Join everyone else who feels the same way anon.
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>>331281065
The Vita requires a bit of work to get going but it's very nice once you get everything set up.

The PS4 only requires you to import the PSN Cards and set up an account for that region since it does not have any issues with multiple accounts in one system.

A bit of work of course, but much better than nothing at all. Hopefully one day we won't need all these hoops on any console and just get to enjoy whatever we want.
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>>331282665
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>>331282783
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>>331282962

What are they reacting to?
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>>331282962

What are they looking at?
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>>331283026
>>331283075

It's a mystery
(Nah this is the first part of that image)
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>>331283156
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>>331283224
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>>331283672
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Time to go to bed, might continue playing tomorrow
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>>331283794
One of the worst characters and worst dialogs in the game.
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>>331283923

Puns are the worst part about japanese humor
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>>331263967
>>331264973
The problem is that you can't really translate Japanese as it is while maintaining the feeling. I'm not that good with Japanese but, in the first one for example, you can tell from the particles that she is speaking with a soft masculine tone. This can't be translated directly into English without rewriting it completely and if they just kept it word for word she could just as easily sound hysterical so they added something on the end. The second one is obvious, it's a children's song but Japanese songs don't rhyme or register as songs when translated.
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>start playing the demo
>magnolia opens her mouth

Why does she sound so off compared to the other characters? It sounds like shes yelling over the phone whenever she talks. Does she sound like this the entire game?
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>>331245530
I don't see the problem, you're siding with one or the other, neither is entirely perfect and both have their drawbacks. You have to live with those choices.

instead they just made it where everyone is happy and feelgood
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>I'd hate to have a game I'm enjoying suddenly twist it around and make me feel negative vibes. Great work SquareEnix!
>And remember folks, its a video game RPG. You've played through this same story line about 100 times before. I say that as a huge RPG fan, but we all know we get the same rehashed storyline over and over agin.
>The class change? Not cool. But this? This is improving the game, and having heard their reasoning I see nothing wrong with what they've done.

All these shills defending this shit
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>>331283963
Not even a pun, just annoying cat speech.

>>331283998
Awful audio quality.
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>>331283998

Monolia made me switch to japanese. that way i can actually understand the foreign parts she speaks
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>>331284127

*Magnolia
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>>331284105
It's just people who haven't actually gotten their hands on the game yet.

>you will never have an AR movie of Ringabel talking to you directly through the 3DS screen

His face is just made for it.
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>>331254460
Did you even bother fucking reading the link? It's saying that SE and Silicon PUT IN THOSE ALTERNATE PATHS IN THE FIRST PLACE TO IMPROVE THE GAME WHEN THEY WERE MAKING THE GAME

Then that Nintendo changed them and took them out when localizing it
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>>331243621
>2016
>playing on a nintendo console/handheld
>expecting anything but trash
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>>331284273
Guess I'll start posting muskets since that once anon mentioned them.
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No matter how you spin it, Bravely Default is absolute kino

Also Mangolia is kino as fuck too
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>>331284364

That's some horrible reading comprehension, must have failed your english classes
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>>331284487
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>>331284534
So you literally cannot fucking read.
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>>331284518
>kino

What?
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>>331284720
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>>331263967
>>331264973
>Americans are okay with this

You are the cancer of localizations.
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>>331284954
That shit is really the least of the problems with this game.

Guess I'll just post some Janne now to finish it off.
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>>331284954

Both the meaning and tone are carried over

Stuff like this are the very, very least of our worries, ranking only slightly higher on the give-a-fuck scale than removing ages in SK
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>>331285085
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>>331284691

> the development team at Square Enix, in conjunction with Silicon Studio, decided to implement a number of revisions to the game for the purpose of improving its quality and creating a more enjoyable product.

>One such change affects the game's optional side quests, where players encounter a conflict between two opposing parties and choose which party to side with.

>overwhelming feedback from players indicated that they felt an unsatisfying disconnect between their intentions and the characters' reactions. In response, these side quest endings were amended to show the party readily coming to terms with their actions in a manner that does not cause the player undue regret for their decisions.

Just where are you getting the Nintendo part from?
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>>331285202
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>>331285259
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>>331285317
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> tfw CFW 3DS and 5.3.2 WiiU
Feels good not giving them a dime. I'll wait for the uncensored uncut version instead.
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>>331285385

Already out
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>>331285371
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>>331285460

You got an unhealthy amount of male pictures, are you a girl or just gay?
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>mfw Multitask with quad wield

The most broken early game combination
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>>331245530
>You shits wouldnt be complaining if you saw the terrible writing like i have. It needs to be changed
Kill yourself.
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>>331285513
Are you saying I can't save images I like?

What's literally wrong with you.

>>331285643
Get mimic, spell craft, meteor rain
Spam it for insta win.


Also did you know you can cap damage as early as chapter 2?
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>>331285696
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>>331285696

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, just curious
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>>331285694
You first, dumb nigger

I just finished the part where you unlock the ship. It's a Japanese hotspring the protag names the Rubadub

End your life if you defend that shit, and yes, moralfag choice asterisks is fucking retarded
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>>331285849
>says saving images is unhealthy
>I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it

But you just did.
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>>331285892
Pretty much this, the story is awful and wasted on the very few characters that had any potential, like Geist and Reverent for example.
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>>331285921

>Janne chasing the butthole orb
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>>331285696
>Also did you know you can cap damage as early as chapter 2?

I didn't, but I've always spent early on making my own cool job combos. I really want to find uses for Catmancy and Patissier but I just don't feel like grinding consumables to use them. Any tips on how to utilize those correctly or any other cool job combos?

There's a lot more flexibility in BS than BD in the sense that some jobs aren't absolutely vital to your success like Spiritmasters and Pirates in BD
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>>331286047

Even in default i was only forced once or twice to use spiritmaster
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>>331286047
>I really want to find uses for Catmancy and Patissier

They are basically repeat jobs but not as fun and slightly worse for making you use items for casting. It's not really worth it, neither job adds anything super useful. They just look cute.

You'll eventually find in later chapters the game becomes even easier. Yeah you have room to experiment, plenty, but really no need to do so either once you find what's broken and stick with it.
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>>331286235
>all that costume potential with Janne and Nikolai was fucking wasted

It really does feel like shit, especially when looking at fun shit like this.
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>>331286047
>>331286235

You can use Patissier and Red Mage passive to create a BP battery character.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cpDUfyuHa4
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>>331286604
>>331286235
>master1200
Anon pls
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>>331286654
Huh, that's interesting. It's actually not that broken either because you have the limit of item consumables. And then there is also the status effect but that's not that bad.
You could use calm as a period for curing the blindness and then wam attacks out.

>>331286728
They're from pixiv? Where else would they be from?
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>>331286951
You're basically saving thumbnails
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>>331287018
Some of the images are too hi rez, you know?
Besides, it's not like the quality is hurt or anything.
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>>331245530
I didn't really care before but this actually sounds interesting. Now I'm fucking angry.
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I LOVE BEING PATRONIZED AND STEPPED ON
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>>331258350
> jackasses on america who can't learn a single other lenguage to help themselves

Should've learned English frst 2bh instead of wasting your time on a pedo language
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>>331287154
The sub quests were written badly in Japanese too, you just had to deal with a bad consequence to your actions.

>>331287270
A poor example of censorship if I've ever seen one.
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>>331287347
Oops, that reply was meant for: >>331287236

I think I might be done posting for the night, if someone else wants to take over, feel free.
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>>331282507
>>331282642
You can't completely break their clothes on 3ds.
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Neptunia: literally designed for more mentally mature people than Square RPGs.
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>>331287689
The remake was supposed to remove it.
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>which would end badly irrespective of the player's actions

Why would you want this

It's an RPG. Quests should have either a good or bad turnout based on whether you succeed or fail. Getting a bad result no matter what you do sounds like plain old bad design.
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>>331285107
>>Both the meaning and tone are carried over
Meaning? Yeah, sort of. Tone? Fuck no.

Something like this: (>>331266543) is completely unecessary. Nobody but retarded Americans think this kind of butchering is okay.
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>>331288409
Please, britcucks were defending the first censorship way before the murika release.
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>>331288409

At least quote the Edea thing if you want an example of something that could alter the tone a bit, this is literally the same
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>>331288490
>Englishmen
>Human

Pick one.
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>>331288636
Go away, go away, go away has no inflection and fits the character and tone of the story better.

These aren't the intruders you're looking for is a tasteless pop culture reference that suits only to please pleb faggots like you.
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>>331244976
Didn't Fable did this bullshit and got regarded as awesome stirytelling long ago?
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>>331289320

Nah, fable just fucked over good people
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Just got the last asterisk. Game is okish, first game's story, OST(doesn't count too much since a lot of it is present) and main cast are way better, Magnolia is more plain than I expected. The worldbuilding of the Geneolgia family is pretty cool though, I loved the similar portion on the first game with the story behind the Templar's uprising.

Really wish the cast was more colorful though, I don't particularly hate anyone but the party chats and tent events are kinda bland with only Edea and Yew pushing the conversations forward. Yew is Tiz++ overshadowing Tiz, while Magnolia is way more similar to Agnes than I hoped. Edea without Ringabel is a mistake, I don't know what they were thinking.

Also, what the fuck was up with that explanation for the Ba'al Altair gives us?
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>>331268679
you mean aftereffects
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did edea love ringabell? i kinda feel bad for her since she's forever alone since yew is totally landing a man on magnolia's moon and tiz and agnes are an item
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Is there an uncensor patch for the first game?
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>>331243621
>buying nintendo games
>buying 3DS games
What is this, 2013? There's no reason to support the faggots that are in NoA and their retarded decisions
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>>331293175
There was barely any change in the first game except some costumes, so I doubt one will even be made

This one si bullshit though
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