>/v/ hates movie games but loves the MGS series
Explain
MGS isn't afraid to be video gamey and self-indulgent unlike most other movie games
>>329364216
MGS games are proper stealth games with good gameplay that just happen to have long ass cutscenes. If you don't give a fuck about the story you can skip the cutscenes and carry on.
Other movie games are primarily focused on telling the story through gameplay, meaning you're stuck with boring unskipable in-game segments where all you do is walk in a straight line while characters talk, or run in a straight line while the scenery explodes.
>>329364631
like bad Japanese writing is a positive thing.
>this same tired bait
In MGS games the gameplay and cutscenes are separated
>>329365152
This
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>>329364631
This
It's like a cinematic experience that doesn't try to be a movie and acknowledges the fact that it's a video game
that is because /v/ has bad taste in movies
>>329364216
You're that autistic faggot that things story and cutscenes are an abomination in video games.
>>329364216
It retains good gameplay while other movie games are either nothing but qtes or walking sims
>>329365152
But that's a total lie, you think crawling through the microwave corridor mashing buttons in MGS4 wasn't a movie cutscene?
If you skip the cutscenes it's very much a videogame, and does not deny it.
There hardly any parts where you are just "acting in a scene" (besides MGSV but it's a mess to begin with)
>>329364956
>MGS games are proper stealth games
>>329364216
Its Japanese
>>329367135
>shining lights happened
>no one talks about how the scene made you feel like shit
All of mgsvs flaws beside.. this one really hit home. Kojima made me cry. Again.
if MGS is a movie game so is splinter cell
>>329364216
>MGS: Snake, press the circle button to preform a specific action that can be used in conjunction with the rest of the controls to defeat the enemy. We're all counting on you.
>Other movie games: [Press X to immediately defeat the enemy through a glorified cutscene containing a context-specific action that will never be used again]
>>329364956
>MGS games are proper stealth games
definitely not talking about 4 or 5 are you
>>329367334
Splinter Cell never had a cutscene longer than 20 minutes.
>>329364216
/v/ is not one person?
Because (aside from MGS V) the video game parts of MGS are very video gamey. Floating item pickups, wacky sound effects, fourth wall breaking, bossfights with health bars, etc.
Not so much in games like TLoU where a cutscene is followed by half an hour of keeping the movement stick titled forward and occasionally pressing a context sensitive action button while the characters do nothing but talk.
>>329364956
>MGS games are proper stealth games with good gameplay
Play something good like Thief 2 you dumb nigger
>>329364216
MGS is dead.
>>329364216
ITT: Idiots don't understand what a movie-game is and stupidly lump MGS in "b-because it has l-l-long cutscenes, right?"
>>329367135
MGS movie/cinematic gameplay portions are all to serve the actual game. They make you feel something through the gameplay itself.
Compare that to the Last of Us where it's just to give you some expository dialogue while you're forced to walk forward slowly.
>>329364216
I am still in time to cancel my sfV purchase and make it a venom snake adventures, how much times should I do it in a row and why?
Bear in mind I cannot appreciate fine things.
>>329368208
what are you talking about, MGS cutscenes are all expository rambling that doesn't even make sense the majority of the time.
>>329368208
>MGS movie/cinematic gameplay portions are all to serve the actual game. They make you feel something through the gameplay itself.
MGS constantly and irritatingly interrupts its own gameplay for the sake of cutscenes. It's incredibly inelegant.
>>329368382
Game with long cutscene =\= movie game
Game with little to no gameplay and long cutscene or the gameplay is cutscene = movie game
MGS has gameplay, TLOU does not
>>329369272
>MGS has gameplay, TLOU does not
In both games it's still a bunch of second rate filler.
>>329364216
I actually hate all of them except Phantom Pain. Not trolling btw. I think almost all of them are shit games.
>>329369272
MGS has mediocre game play, its the pleb version of Splinter Cell. At least TLOU does good cutscenes.
>>329369373
What you're saying only applies to MGS4 though.
>>329364216
MGS did it right.
>>329367231
it's no splinter cell, it's a simplified stealth game
it's a game where you're at a disadvantage if you're spotted so the player's best bet is to sneak around, it's more arcadey than anything but if that doesn't count as a proper stealth game then i don't know what does
>>329371446
MGS4 has the best gameplay actually. At the same time there's about 2 hours of worthwhile level design so it's wasted.
the video game and the cinematic sequences are separate, not rolled into one
>>329372686
That's a bad thing.
>>329373249
no it isn't you stupid faggot
>>329373682
Gameplay and story segregation is a terrible thing for immersion
>>329373937
maybe if you're a dumb casual
>>329364216
the cutscenes are fun
>>329364216
Because metal gear was crazy, unique, and felt like a video game in all purposes even when you're watching a scene because of how crazy they get. As opposed to something such as TLOU where it is dead serious the entire time and like you're watching a slow moving film it is very much different. I like both the games but MGS I like much much better..MGS is special and one of the defining series of gaming, did a ton of revolutionary shit in the mdiumm
dummo
>>329374050
Do you know how to argue or do you only speak in buzzwords?
>>329371113
>its the pleb version of Splinter Cell.
splinter cell is a pleb version of manhunt
>>329374050
If anything, being a dumb casual would be beneficial for story and gameplay segregation. I think youre just shitposting for the sake of it
>>329374649
>>329374561
a dumb casual would be alienated
>>329364216
It's okay when Japan does it!
>>329367135
>t that's a total lie, you think crawling through the microwave corridor mashing buttons in MGS4
and that was considered the worst game in the series for a reason anon. (at least until MGS5 and peace walker). MGS4 definitely went into movie game territory.
MGS5 then tried to compensate but went too far in the other direction.
MGS 2 and 3 got it right in terms of cut-scene/gameplay (well, mgs 2 had a little bit too much codec at the end)
>>329373937
>immersion is important
Fuck you immersion is worthless in the grand scheme of gaming, it means nothing. It can be cool but in no way is it something games must have, yes you are a fucking massive casual for thinking immersion is important.
>>329375404
>Story driven game
>Immersion doesn't matter
I just love sitting in front of the screen watching a whole load of shit that I'm not involved in.
>>329364956
he went full retard. Even Splinter Cell is a better stealth game.
>>329375607
>needing to be immersed to enjoy a story
immersion is only important for horror games, so you can get scared.
>>329375607
>games = immersion
You're still not getting it, you don't need to feel like your "involved". Its a fucking video game you're supposed to play it and see it unfold, gameplay is the most important aspect not a fucking immersion gimmick. You sound like a casual babby who only plays first person.
>>329376020
If you're going to use a video game to tell a story the least you can do is actually use the game part for that purpose, dumbass.
>>329376281
>moving the goalposts
Casuals need to leave
