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Daily Reminder that CDproject made a better game with less money than Bethesda or Gayware, with better graphics than Square -release never- Enix
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>>324149743
And with the best waifus, and representing based Poland. CDPR is too good to be real.
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>>324149743
Daily Reminder the game was shit, and people will not remember it 5 years from now.
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>>324150089
Literally everything you said is wrong.
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Better doesn't mean good
The Witcher series is awful
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It's better than modern Bioware but Witcher 3 can't touch stuff like Baldur's Gate
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>>324150198
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>>324150149
It was already fading until that reward shit brought it back.
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>>324149743
they're also hiring atm and will provide help moving to poland
really wish i hadn't taken a 2 year gap in my programming
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This Witcher is garbage and Poles are retarded. This is literally objective fact.
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>>324150323
So you think a game having only two threads a day instead of 5 at any time means it's forgotten?
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Generic western fantasy RPG nothing worth praising about. FF XV and Persona 5 will shit all over this garbage.
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>>324149743
It should be noted that huge development budget increase compared to previous two games actually went to hiring foreign developers.
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>>324150453
>implying generic JRPGs will be good
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>>324149743
Remind that after they learned hwo to make female characters.
Not overused glory hole trash
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>>324150626
FF XV and Persona 5 are anything but not generic. Tell me other RPGs that take place in modern setting and have magic, swords, mythical beings etc. You can't.
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>>324150710
>Remind that after they learned hwo to make female characters.

But they always did. Just because you got to fuck every female in Geralt's vicinity it doesn't mean female characters didn't exist. And were meaningful.

>people always ragged on about sex cards and brothels
>conveniently forgetting the fact the lodge are the real movers and shakers in the witcher and they're all women
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>>324150452
It was far less than that but whatever, I'm not going to argue over something I can't prove.
It was also considered a good game that gets boring, after the reward show shit posters are acting as if its the greatest game of all time. I liked it but agreed it got boring after awhile.
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>>324150910
>ragged on

I like you.
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>>324149743
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYnFIRc0k6E
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Witcher games are slav magic.
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>>324149743
CDPR is one of the best devs in current existence so it's no surprise. They did it twice before with The Witcher and The Witcher 2.
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Why are all characters in WRPGs drunks, drug addicts, whores? I really want to get into them because of the absence of good JRPGs atm but those kind of characters just put me off. I mean I know that they are supposed to be realistic but not all people in real world are fucking drunks, drug addicts etc.
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>>324149743
and no gay sex
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>>324150795
>FF XV
>Persona 5

JRPG are the most degenerated kind of game one can play
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>>324150795
>final fantasy
>not generic

oh my god this thread is full of retard "people"
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>>324151193
normal people doing normal daily activities enjoying life are boring as fuck and dont need to be included in the stories
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>>324151284
I'm still waiting for you to tell me what other RPGs take place in modern setting in which you can use magic, summons, swords etc.
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>>324151397
>implying that drunks, drug addicts, whores are good characters

Do you hang out with those types of people in real life to? I'm sure you parents are proud of you.
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>>324151406
Shin Megami Tensei
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>>324151532
no, you need people to act strangely to have player interact with them to begin with. why would you bother people who are just living their lives without issues.
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>>324151689
>Shin Megami Tensei
That's post-apocalyptic not modern times I mean world like ours.
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>>324151791
>world like ours
>final fantasy
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>>324151762
There are no people in this world that live their lives without issues.
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>>324149743
daily reminder that this thread only and solely appears after a witcherfag gets buttblasted in a downgrade thread.

>>324129812
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>>324151935
how many of those issues can be resolved by a sword carrying mass murderer?
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>>324149743
Fuck Ciri, I hate this bitch.
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>>324152048
what the fuck can anyone gain from talking about downgrade 7 months after the game came out, everyone can play the game and see what it looks like. most people think its 2nd best looking game after the star wars game this year.
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>>324151406
VTM:B
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>>324151406
Vampire the masquerade
And it's actually an rpg and not a linear adventure with a numeric system for combat

The problem with persona is that you can program an automatic X button and the game is gonna advance with or without you, you can be dick mc asshole or the fucking holly baby jesus and the game is not gonna be different, kind of hard playing an rpg like that if your only rol it's gonna be grind monsters and make generic friendships with generic anime waifus
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>>324152881
That is game from 10 years ago, name me one current western RPG that isn't fantasy, post-apocalyptic or sci-fi, that doesn't have generic marines for main characters.
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>>324153569
the first SMT is from 1987 and they've been reusing the same concept with different settings since then (persona is just the generic anime version), try a better argument my linear adventures that pretend to be role playing games lover
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>>324151139
They're perhaps the most generous developers in the industry and are making an attempt to bring the industry back to where it was pre-DLC area, but I wouldn't call them the best. They're the only company out there I know who is like "We're going to be releasing this many DLC's throughout the course of such and such game, and it's all going to be completely free". Which is great. I'm all for that. But they just don't make very good games. They have some great writers, but from a technical standpoint there's no reason why TW3 feels less fluid than a game released in 2012. If they could get that down, TW3 would have been an absolute masterpiece. Instead, it's just one of those games that exist with the story and graphics being the only saving grace.
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>>324153956
>implying that Witcher 3 isn't action-adventure game with RPG elements
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>>324155631
It isn't
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When i look at DA:I now. It looks even more shit then before.
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>>324150795

>RPGs that take place in modern setting and have magic, swords, mythical beings etc.

Generic weebshit
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5hrs in, im a self confessed souls fag but ill admit the game is winning me over, sure some of the combat is hit or miss but the multi emeny fights work better than Souls and the dialogue and game world are top notch.
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>>324149743
Polishfag here.
You can thank that to our fuckep up economy and shitty salaries.
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>>324149743
>Boring story
>Generic, dry, bland, gritty western medieval fantasy setting. Nothing unique about it.
>Constant fetch quests
>Protagonist Geralt lacks any personality or emotion.
>Game focuses on too much sex in order to sell to 14y/o autists

Witcher fags btfo. Quit trying to damage control a mediocre series.
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>>324159582
I have this one fellow polishfag
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>>324149743
Pity about the combat system and, well, you know, the actual GAMEplay.
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>>324159806
Ooooh thank you might Anon for this rare Pepe.

It will have special place in my collection.
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>>324159582
Cheers m8, u build our homes in uk and fill em with good games, Queen Elizabeth thanks you.
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Are there any good mods out for the combat? Or at least to fix the shitty enemy level system. I shouldn't have to wail on some random bandit for fifty hits to drop him, no matter what.
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cześć, uczę się języka polskiego, just because it seems like a pretty good place to move to honestly. I work in software, so might try get a job in Wroclaw in a couple of years when my Polish is better.
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>>324160114
Godspeed anon
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>>324159737
Here's a pity (You)
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>>324156954
aymen
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>better graphics than Square -release never- Enix

Not when you compare the console versions of those games. The FFXV demo looked better than TW3 on consoles.
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>tfw poland becomes the last bastion of degenerate-free zone
>with good games
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>>324149743
Never into fantasy genre but Witcher makes me interested in it.
I like how they take the setting and make it fun as fuck with a bunch of humors. They didn't forget they were making a video game.
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>>324150089
>goty 2015 and I hate it
/v/
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yeah yeah, now make Cyberpunk 2077 you slavs
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Thanks OP now I want to play the game again
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>>324160578
>TW3 had a crossdresser and a character modeled after a tranny in it
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>>324149743
Well duh.
They're competant.
It's sad that it's come to this, this is why I exclusively play indie games.
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>>324160785
>that whole dialogue with him
top kek
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So pretty
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Playing TW3 after Fallout 4 really shows how shit Bethesda is at writing
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>>324160578
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>>324149743
>with better graphics than Square -release never- Enix
Why do you have to torture FFXV kun? He probably wants to kill himself each time he realises that he's wasting his time trying to prove FFXV superiority yet his sense of duty doesn't let him stop.
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>>324149743
Cool!
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About to start, what build is most FUN.

Kinda thinking big dick heavy sword fighter
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Guys I have 50$ on steam, should I wait til its on sale and grab it?

I've already played on ps4
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>>324161880
Spinny man build is fun!
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>>324149743
>put baby in the oven

GAME
OF
THE
YEAR
EVERY
YEAR
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>>324161880
Magic
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>>324161710
>>324161980
Turn off easy and you`er good to go.
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>>324149743
Bethesda is 100ish people and Fallout 4's budget was around 120 million.

CD project is 250ish people, and their budget was 80 million. However, being based in Poland, their workers cost less than half, so their budget could be translated to be 160 million.

Don't make it sound like CD project is the underdog here.
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>>324162281
Okay!
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>>324161980
>>324161710
Is this supposed to show you're playing the game with cheat mode?
Woah congrats man you couldn't really play a RPG without cheats.
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>>324159978
With rare Pepe comes grate responsibility.

And you'er welcome.
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>>324151193
>War constantly ravages your homeland
>Monsters and shit all there with the purpose to fuck your shit up
>Bandits feed on the fear of men and take advantage where possible
Not drinking and/or taking smack up to relax in this universe shows you're mentally handicapped
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>>324162412
It`s not cheats. He just plays on "Easy" and shittposts how easy the game is.
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>>324161710
>we want the dark souls audience
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>>324162567
They sure do! Look at those sexy hitboxes!
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>One boring turdfest is slightly better than these other boring turdfests

Except in reality; it actually isn't. Witcher 3 falls flat in Gameplay, Graphics, and Story. It also is uninspired at it's core, being generic fantasy with real world mythological influences, and not even attempting to disguise it.

If nothing else Square Enix games generally have interesting mythos.
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>>324162283
nie math there kid
the truth is, wages in murrica are inflated, as in most countries.
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>>324162283
>Doubling the money based only on wages.

Jesus anon, wages aren't the only cost in development.
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>>324149743
You know that the cost of living, typical monthly wage and operating costs in Poland are substantially lower than that of countries where games are typically developed in, right?
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I wish it was fun to play, and didn't feel like work.
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>make 3 games
>every game increases in quality over the last
>third game is the best game ever made

POLACKS
O
L
A
C
K
S
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>>324162365
Still better then Dark Souls
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>>324162652
I'd like to see someone defend this. Clearly not easy mode as he's almost dead in 3 slow swipes.
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>>324162980
I agree!
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Daily reminder CDPR paid for 2 cinematic trailers, 2 TV spot trailers, and airtime for those spots on major networks.

They are not poor nor are they the underdogs. They are also not your friends.

Witcher 3 is also not a good game, and it's not even a good movie, it's also based on a garbage book series.
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>>324149743

What the fuck are you talking about the Witcher 3 cost 80 million dollars.
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>>324157213
it is tho.
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>>324150406
Anon you have no idea what are you asking for.

First of all - in Potatoland you won't get good wages.

Entry tier programmer's wage for CDPR is around 5000 potatoes a month which is like $1250 - so think of getting $15k a year.
Living costs are much lower and the wage itself is good for their standards(then again startups will give you more potatoes easily) but think about squeezing money for $3000 gaming PC cause you want one to enjoy games you've helped to make on max settings out of it(or a new car). Can you save that money? Sure, if you manage to just live off on $1000 a month you will do it in a year. Even more - neckbeards will find that enormously easy but why are you thinking about moving to the entire new country, one filled with gold-digging sluts to continue your neckbeardy ways?

That's one issue. The other are working conditions. You'll work 7 days a week, likely more than 8 hours a day(you'll get a bonus for it, so at least it's honest). Some foreign CDPR employees left with impression that the company is in non-ending crunch but the truth is that this is how software development looks like in Potatoland. Be glad you're not construction worker working on a similar manner, except physically and for much less money!

Independent dev studios formed out of "ex-CDPR devs" are everywhere in Potatoland now. And those are often decent devs - Hard West was put together in like a year, doesn't suffer from performance issues other unity games suffer from, isn't really bugged, has reasonable although unique mechanics and enough content to take ~25-30 hours. Do you really think these guys quit the CDPR because they were thrown out, being useless contract code monekys they were? No, absolutely no, these are simply professionals quitting because they've got enough of the conditions. HR certainly has "lol everybody's expendable" approach there if you still didn't get it.

You don't want to work here, even rockstar of all dev studios seems better.
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>>324162980
that will never be true
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>>324163060
>defending a video playing with trainers
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>>324163074
That's actually pretty cool and makes me want to give this series a chance.
I've always hated how rushed status effects are in most arpgs.
HA! I've poisoned you for 1.4 seconds and you're frozen for .5 seconds!
Too bad human reaction time won't let me use this advantage because I"m not a fucking cyborg.
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>>324149743
Friendly reminder that Witcher 3 had a budget of around 80m USD, which would've been close to b Fallout 4's budget.

Friendly reminder that cost of living and wages in Poland are far lower, effectively making Witcher 3's development budget much larger than Fallout 4.

Don't be fooled by the CDPR drones; CDPR are NOT a "small underdog". They are a massive company with hundreds of employees.
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Just Bitcher 3. Is a full alchemy build fun? If not I might just go signs and combat
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>make thread about how good TW3 is
>people unironically get mad just seeing it
hilarious
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>>324163393
Go for it bro!
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>>324150453
FF is THEE generic rpg, ask any casual to name a rpg and it'll be FF
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>>324163416
Who gives a fuck how many employee they have or how much they spent. They made a great game, that means they know how to spend their budget.
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>>324163282
thanks for the heads up anon.
i'm not at the skill to even apply due to the time away from programming, but you may save another poor soul.
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>mfw TW3 cost more than MGS4 and MGSV

It's not even a game. I mean neither is MGS4, but at least MGS4 doesn't hurt to play inbetween cutscenes.

Holy fuck Polacks, nuke yourselves.

Does Poland even have nuke?
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>>324151193
Because human scum are interesting.

Honourable, role model do-gooders are fucking awful and artificial.
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>>324163494
Nevermind, those hitboxes are straight garbage.
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>>324163282
This is a really great post, thanks.
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>>324163431
Never go full alchemy
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>>324157213
not even him, it is
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>>324163494
Well when you play like a retard i kind of think you deserve ONE broken hitbox.
bro.
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>>324163494
>modding the game just to make the hitbox looks bugged
Is this autism?
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>>324163393
>.5 seconds
>60 frames a second
>can't react within 30 frames
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>>324162889
>>324162871
Explain how they can pay more than twice the people on 40 million less, other than the labour there being extremely cheap.
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what happened from TW2 to TW3 to make people hate on the series and constantly complain about "shit combat" and "boring"

it's not like /v/ could have gotten more underage
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>>324163784
>Ps4
>modding
No
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>>324163431
Nothing in TW3 is fun. It's not an RPG, it's an Adventure game more shallow than LoZ.
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>>324163897
TW2 is more fun to play than TW3. TW3 is a fucking borefest.
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>>324163960
not sure how anyone could possibly think this but sure
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>>324149743
Yeah. If only CDPR could also design good combat and some other gameplay things.

But you can't have everything it seems.
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>>324163897
It got popular so it attracts autists.
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Fuck....
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>>324163897
It's the same guy shitposter every time. Notice how it's always the same 5 webm that get posted and the same meme about "bad combat".
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>>324164159
>that horrible fucking pop in
Please tell me this was a console or toaster version. i don't want to believe this game is that bad.
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TW3 is the worst game ever made.
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>>324164262
What?
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>>324164159
Reminds me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pQ_ZozZIio
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>>324164262
Here >>324164397
This is the guy I'm talking about.
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It's ok, Witcher 3 won goty of 2015.....It's over now.........
>>324164159
>>324163494
>>324164397
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>>324164262
I'm pretty confused at that guy, what exactly is he trying to get across?
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>>324164525
Oh I see.
Seems like it bounds to happen to every game that has gotten popular.
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>>324163897
Superman is such an asshole.
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>>324164586
At first people thought it could be a shill for another game but time passed and seems like he's just a general autist who thinks he can somehow convince people this game is bad.
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>>324165069
He convinced me.
The witcher series was on my backlog before it got exposed to me as a meme game in this thread.
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>>324165306
this, i'm glad this hero among men redpilled me with his 5 webms
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I'd rather go back and play Skyrim on my PS3 than play through Witcher 3 again.

Witcher 3 is the most overrated game ever.
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>>324164397
>always posting the same webm.'s of obvious bugs which have been patched or happen once or twice during the entire playthrough

Fucking hell you people are highly retarded. What the fuck is that supposed to prove, that the game has bugs? Success, every game has bugs.

The best thing is that Witcher 3 DOES have pretty big problems, but I guess you're too preoccupied with making an ass out of yourselves instead of discussing them. Every fucking thread, the same shit.
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>>324150453
if you wanted to play any Sword and Sorcery fantasy game, The Witcher 3 should be everyone's first choice, other games may not apply
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>>324165395
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>>324165870
I'll stick to bg.
This game looks like feces.
Like the worst bits of dark souls made a baby with real time final fantasy games
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>>324159943
its an RPG with action elements, RPGs usually have shooty gameplay but everything else about them is what people care about
an Action game with RPG elements is a Souls game
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Literally SJW - the game
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Cdpr had the crutch of using a well established universe with deep and complex characters which had to be easier for them when developing a game. Pretty smart move for them.
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>the gameplay sucks because its too easy!
why not play hard mode then?
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>>324166117
more games should do this, i want to see a new Dune game damn it
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>>324165695
Stunlocking enemies where they can't fight back isn't a bug you fucking retard. The combat is just that bad
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immersion is more important in an rpg than gameplay
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>>324166631
True but bad gameplay destroys immersion.
Especially bad hitboxes and stunlocking which seem to be Witcher 3's speciality.
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>>324166150
The game is easy as fuck
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>>324166448
And yet most of the webm's show retarded shit that's been patched out a long time ago.

Witcher 3's biggest issue isn't with stunlocking, it's with the way hitboxes and i-frames work. Also how Geralt can't really damage people with his sword if he's not soflty locked onto them.
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>>324160578
>soon
>soon it will be over

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVDur6QA2OM
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>>324166881
The hitbox is fine, you just get damaged a lot because the monsters in the game is really fast and aggressive.
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>>324150795
>FFXV
>High School simulator 5
>not generic
kek
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>>324150910
why was anna a mage in witcher 2?
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>>324167483
Yeah, being aggressive means hitting the air 3 feet away from someone means they take damage.
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>>324166150
Doesn't add mechanics
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>>324151249
>>324151284
>>324158154
>>324167689

The guy still makes point. I feel as though triple A rpgs that come out now from westerners are pretty much all the same. Feels like there is any game made in the west either has to be post-apocalyptic, in the future, or some mythical kind thing.
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>>324167939
>things never happened
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