Is it the best bossfight of the Souls series?
Nah. I still prefer Gehrman, just for the setting, music and story beats. And after that it's Artorias, O&S and Tower Knight.
It's the hardest, but not the best.
it was alright
I like most bossfights that only have one boss.
I fucking hate it when there is a "boss" thats just w whole lot of fucking NPCs that I just fought to get the the fight. ie skelly lords
Having two bosses isnt as bad O&S was a great bossfight but I would still prefer just a single boss.
Just meh opinion
Ludwig > Orphan
>>324012135
>Souls series
Uhhh....
The screams kinda ruin it.
>>324012623
man, imagine if orphan babbled and cried like a baby or something
>>324012135
I still think it goes to O & S.
They are formulaic now, but the path there and the fight itself was insane.
>>324012135
Why is he carrying his cancer-riddled ballsack behind him
That looks uncomfortable
>>324012135
Nah since sir reflective floor exists
>>324012674
Well, he does cry at the start, and he does a sort of cry for help before the lightning attack.
>>324012784
Not even the best boss in his own DLC.
>>324012623
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
>>324012784
He's piss easy and predictable, the only thing he has going for him is his OST.
No DS2 bosses can be remotely compared to TOH.
>>324012479
nah, this is the hardest boss in bloodborne
>>324012623
FUCKING HUNTERS GET OFF MY BEACH
RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I like Ludwig more.
>>324012502
but orphan is just 1 boss
>>324012623
He's a literal manchild who spend few centuries alone while being tortured by scholars.
What can he do except for screaming and crying?
>>324012910
play video games and fap
>>324012910
>He's a literal manchild who spend few centuries alone while being tortured by scholars.
You see his birth right before the boss fight.
>tfw NG++ Orphan pushed me to my limits even on my shitter BL150 build
Easily the most satisfying boss out of all the Soulsborne ones I've beaten, which is all except the two DLC's after Sunken King because I got bored after fighting a giant cat boss and a Smelter remake.
I really need to go back and finish those but cba.
Gehrman is the cream of Bloodborne.
The DLC was fantastic, but 'new' things aren't automatically better by virtue of their age.
I wonder how any other souls protagonists would fare against the Orphan. Nigga is so aggressive that he will probably shield break even the havel's shield and even DWGR is not agile enough to dodge his stream of attacks.
>>324013037
>parry2win
>good boss
Thematically it's great, but it's extremely easy and boring to play. Ludwig and Orphan are better
>>324013103
you can parry2win orphan, too
>>324013029
It's not a birth and not even his real body.
His real body is the shadowy creature you see after the boss fight.
>>324012856
Not a boss and not very hard
>>324013058
DWGR is ridiculously strong, you're underestimating it. Although DS is nowhere near as generous with stamina as BB.
As for blocking it really only depends on the values of how much stamina his attacks would drain. Could be nothing, could be all of it.
>>324013124
his timings are more difficult and he has a more versatile moveset with ranged and AoE attacks
I've only fought Gherman twice but each time I stayed at long range and parried his slow swipes, you don't even have to dodge him most of the time. Never died to him
>>324013030
>bolt paper against a boss nearly immune to bolt
>>324013103
>people who complain about bosses being easy because you can parry them
Don't fucking parry, then? Every boss fight in BB is much more fun, and much more challenging if you actively decide not to parry. Don't bitch about a completely optional mechanic that lets you cheese bosses from 30 yards away.
>>324013293
It's a legitimate flaw that could be easily fixed by tightening the parry windows. You don't even need to react fast to parry Gherman, it's ridiculous
>>324013058
Its a boss designed so that the way you play in Dark Souls becomes completely not viable. Which makes it super fun and one of the best in terms of originality and systems.
>He chains 4 hits including a throw or a charge and uppercut that's also homing
>He charges half way across the map, jumps way up and tosses grenades in 180 degrees.
You can't roll out of that, and it'll stunlock you out of poise.
>>324013221
Dude it was literally release day, went in completely blind and assumed he was Kin hence the alien shit.
why he is so overpowered?
>>324013103
The last time I parried was against Gas-can. In hindsight I should have at least tried to do that on Bloody Crow.
I don't have the DLC, what makes the fight so good?
Though they weren't the hardest things I've ever fought, I personally loved the fights against Amygdala and Mergo's Wet Nurse.
>>324013350
>omg this boss is easy when I cheese him
This is like those shitters who do their first playthrough of Souls games with magic, and then come to /v/ complaining about how easy every encounter and boss was because they cheesed it with magic.
>>324013194
>versatile moveset with ranged and AoE attacks
As does Gehrman.
And 'difficulty' in Souls games boils down to levelling so it's a moot point.
I don't care if Orphan wrecked you through counter-damage hits. Gehrman is a much better overall package, with only Maria coming close.
>>324013405
Because he's one of the legit great ones you fight.
They aren't called gods for nothing and even if he's obviously weakened, withered and never had a chance to properly grow up he can mess your shit up with his sheer reaction time and ability to control lighting.
>>324013542
>it's not a flaw if you can choose to not do it
Anon this approach to everything is dumb, if a boss is cheesable then it needs to be fixed not ignored because "Well you COULD be SL1 with your bare fists so its actually really hard"'
Optional challenges you put on yourself are not an indication of how good/bad/hard the bosses are
>>324013103
>but it's extremely easy and boring to play
>Because I'm a literal faggot who does nothing but stand back and parry fish
>Why is this game so boring holy shit!
You realise you're not FORCED to parrybait like a little bitch right?
>>324013672
>the game/fight isn't hard if you don't go out of your way to handicap yourself
So what your saying is that the balancing is shit and that the boss is poorly designed because it's easy to cheese and hard only if you choose to handicap yourself?
>>324013672
So why not fix the parry windows so unskilled players like me have an actual challenge without handicapping ourselves?
>>324012135
Nah not really. If the fight would have been only his first phase then he would have been great, but the second phase fucks with the camera so hard it's hard to see where the fucker is going at times since almost all of his leaps can break the lock on.
False King Allant stronk.
>>324013554
I really wish they didn't make Maria so easy to stunlock. First time I fought I was using the reiterpallasch and I was just comboing her for most of the fight.Also I wish her theme didn't devolve into generic chanting
>>324012135
prefer Ludwig desu.
>>324012135
It's the greatest boss fight in gaming history
>>324013630
You complained that a boss was boring, to which I stated it's your choice of playstyle which is the boring, not the boss. Parrying is only 1 of dozens of possible ways you could kill him, and you just happened to choose the most boring, because it's no doubt the easiest.
Going man to man against Gehrman with nothing but dodging and melee is the most fun DMC tier shit in the whole game IMO. I honestly do not see the appeal of parrying to down bosses, it's so fucking boring, slow and monotonous it completely kills the experience.
The way I see it is, I COULD parry that boss, but I'm not going to because the playstyle is boring as fuck and not rewarding for me personally. If you feel rewarded by doing nothing but parrying in boss fights that's fine, but don't come here bitching about how a boss is 'boring' or 'easy' because you literally chose the easy mode, like magicfags in DaS.
>>324013029
he was literally born a long time ago
he crawled back into his mothers vagina because he's a huge manchild
that's why he screams REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>324013789
Why not try and fight him without parrying? Honest question I'm not judging you, I'm honestly curious why you feel like you NEED to parry. Is it because you can't beat him without parrying? Again, not judging just genuinely curious. Beating him without parrying is satisfying as fuck.
>>324014007
Again a player having to intentionally not use one of the core mechanics of the game for a fight to be interesting means its poorly balanced fight.
Why are you having so much trouble grasping this?
Why does Micolash sound like Michael Rosen, if Michael Rosen smoked cigarettes his entire life?
>>324013030
>isn't some crazy ass giant you have to chse down.
>>324012135 got my hopes up. From the angle they used it looks gigantic
>>324014116
It's just instinct from parrying so many humanoids during the game. I actually remembered I have fought him without parrying once, but that was after Orphan so my character was overlevelled anyway.
>>324013187
I know this is /v/, but you're a contrarian faglord.
>>324012135
It's cool, but Ludwig is at least 15 times better and the best boss in a Souls game. Two phases that are totally different from each other, 1v1 fight not relying on multiple enemies to fuck you over, every attack is fair and has perfect hitbox, best music in the series, best lore in Bloodborne etc.
I havn't played bloodborne, is this boss actually that big of a deal? Is he Manus material?
>>324012856
Get him on the stairs and he's much easier.
>>324013405
This is what an infant Great One is like. This is why they're so hard to make. Gotta pump so much effort into making something like this.
>>324014352
Ludwig is the Artorias and Orphan is Manus.
>>324014320
he's hard but not that hard 2bh
you just need to dodge around him and he'll bleed himself to death
before he was patched you could just run out after he used the bleed and he'd just kill himself
>>324014343
Also that fucking daunting design. How he's still almost coherent. How you can talk to him after you defeat him.
How half his face is still human, it's just perfect.
>>324014034
HUMANS GET OFF MY BEACH
RRRREEEEEEEEE
>>324014123
>core mechanics of the game
Yet a ton of builds don't use guns or viscerals for damage, or have to save those bullets for Tools, then there's 2H builds that don't use guns at all. Hell visceral damage is exclusive to SKILL builds, so it's fucking pointless on STR or BT and Arc because you'd do more damage just regularly comboing.
It's a completely optional playstyle. This is like claiming why aren't you an Arcane build for those instant backstabs off Augur, backstabs are a core mechanic of the game why gimp yourself baka!
I did it with Bloodletter pure BT build, fun as fuck and I literally couldn't parry because I couldn't risk the health loss of going in and out of BT mode just to parry, and the fact that I have no SKILL so I'd do like 500 damage, less than a fucking R1.
how come i never fought orphan? I just kind of finished the game when the hunters dream house was on fire and the doll told me to go to the tree
>>324014552
Again none of what you said matters, why are you having trouble admitting that it being possible to cheese bosses is a bad thing and something that should not be avoided?
It's fucking close but personally I like Maria just a tiny bit more.
>>324014584
dlc.
>>324014501
>>324014352
See pic related. The DLC also has a Laurence boss fight, which is similar to pic related but different.
Maria in the clock tower is the best god damn fight, I would get her to low health and die on purpose so I can fight her again.
Also going back to playing dark souls 2 after playing bloodborne for so long is terrible, it's so fucking slow and shit in comparison, bloodborne has completely killed my love for the dark souls games I don't think I can stomach dark souls
>>324012135
Why does it look like he has a superhero cape?
>>324012623
>>324012674
>>324012832
One of my favorite things in fiction is when people scream passionately or aggressively while they do shit.
Another is fighting with loose, untrained, but powerful blows and swings.
The Orphan fight pretty much gave me a boner
>>324012856
you mean the easiest
the dude literally walked into all my charge attacks until he died
idiot even forgot to heal
>>324014742
>bloodborne has completely killed my love for the dark souls games I don't think I can stomach dark souls
no, the 2nd game is just shit. 1 is still good
>>324014742
To be honest, the entire DLC is just great on so many levels.
>>324014352
Manus was the only challenging boss in DS1. Orphan is one of the few really challenging bosses in a game that is more difficult than DS1 or 2 in terms of boss fights.
>>324014626
>>324014552
>>324014123
>>324014007
>muh completely subjective opinion about what is good and fun is the only correct one
This is fucking autistic. Agree to disagree, and just move on, or ignore each other.
>>324014779
I went back to DS1 recently, its showing its age quite a bit in just about every area. The setting remains strong, the combat, graphics, and mechanics are pretty archaic at this point. BB capitalized on a lot of whats great about the series and streamlined a lot of the bullshit.
>>324012135
DELETE THIS
>>324014936
>the combat, graphics, and mechanics are pretty archaic at this point.
combat is fine, just slower than bloodborne. You get used to the graphics quickly and the game still has extremely strong level design until near the end. It's very playable still
>>324014742
Agreed, but I honestly think they should have made it more difficult to stunlock her.
She'd be perfect, but I was able to beat her on my second try because 50 endurance + saw cleaver + fire paper.
2 combos ended her, and she deserved better than that.
>>324015008
I wish Dark Souls 1 could have adopted DS2's speed and weapons variety.
It would be GOAT.
>>324014626
But it does matter. You claimed that parrying was a mandatory mechanic, but it isn't
>only SKILL builds actually get visceral damage
>Arcane builds have to save bullets for their Tools and don't get visceral bonus
>2H STR builds get no visceral bonus so parrying is pointless for them
>full Bloodtinge also gets no visceral damage either
>certain weapons like Bloodletter are pretty much made to be strictly in 2H form
Therefore a mechanic's entire damage output being tied to ONE out of FOUR damage stats means you're wrong as fuck. It's only a core mechanic if you create your build AROUND it, via pumping Skill, otherwise it's useless for damage.
>>324015018
>be extremely overlevelled
>complain boss is too easy
>>324015018
>50 endurance + saw cleaver + fire paper.
Fucking kill yourself.
>Dark Souls DLC
>dat Astoras and Manus
>Dark Souls 2 DLC
>dat everything
>Bloodborne DLC
>dat Orphan and Ludwig
Why are souls DLC bossfights always the best?
I've spent a lot of time trying to beat the orphan with my skill/BT reiterpallasche/bowblade build. I've came really close, but not enough. I know I could just sit back and cheese the fuck out of him with bowblade shots, but that just sounds really unsatisfying.
Similarly, I have a coworker that brags about his Souls pvp experiences, but by the sound of it, he just uses really cheesy, exploitative builds and strategies, even when he's underlevelled. Is that just what most people do, pvp or pve? Cheese or be cheesed? Am I just setting myself up for failure to feel legitimate, when nobody else but me is going to see or experience that kind of gratification?
>>324014925
>being able to cheese a boss is good design
Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy.
>>324015120
When did I claim it was mandatory?
I'm just saying that going "Well the boss is hard if you blindfold yourself so its a good fight" isn't an argument.
If you have to handicap yourself to make a fight difficult or interesting then its not difficult or interesting by default, ergo it shit design.
>>324014936
It's completely unplayable after Bloodborne. DS3 better be BB with dragons or it will suck.
>>324012135
no this is
>that build up in the base game
>that guiding moonlight
>that orchestral swell when he learns to walk upright
>those horse noises
b-b-but forgotten madman is Ludwig, Cleric Beast is Ludwig. Fucking faggots couldn't recognise what good character build up is.
>>324015226
LE HAPPY MERCHANT FACE
>>324012135
He's clearly malnourished and/or deformed.
But his second form is so pretty, so is his mom's face, sort of.
I wonder what he would have looked like if given the chance to fully develop? Could he have been one of the beautiful people, /v/?
>>324015226
Dark Souls 2 had at least one lousy boss per DLC though.
>Hi Gank Squad
>Hi Blue Smelter Demon
>Hi reskinned Kitty Cats
>>324015018
>he maxed endurance
>>324015248
I replayed DaS recently and stepped into PVP at Oolacile after a long hiatus and almost everyone was just some crown of dusk fag firing off dark spells and WotG everywhere. So yes, as far as PvP goes people will always create builds specifically for doing as much damage in the quickest amount of time, which makes perfect sense, but is really boring and predictable.
As for Orphan, I had the exact same setup as you and I beat him, so i so go for it.
>>324015018
Wow, end yourself.
>>324014343
>there are people in this thread who still equip guns
>>324014626
Why not get to level 150 before fighting any bosses?They've got to give you shitters some way to clear the game :^)
>>324015248
Rakyou build at level ~50. I just brute forced him, somehow. It's possible. You should be able to parry the first phase easily. Second phase you just facetank his shit since you got through phase 1 without taking damage.
>>324015279
>When did I claim it was mandatory?
You claimed it was a 'core mechanic' and that you HAD to use it.
You failed to realise that every build has a different core mechanic.
>skill build's core mechanic is visceral damage
>blootinge's core mechanic is gun/blood damage
>arcane's core mechanic is consumables/hunter tools utility and damage
>strength build's core mechanic is that their weapons get the best regain and hyper armour in the game
>AYYY mode's core mechanic is Kos Parasite combat and hunter's tools
>beast mode's core mechanic is Beast Pellet usage
So no, doing viscerals is not 'core' mechanic of the overall game, it's simply a core mechanic of SKILL builds specifically. That's only 1 out of 6 builds that uses parrying/viscerals for damage. You had to go out of your way to build your character around that just to cheese bosses with visceral damage. All 5 of those other builds get none.
I WANT AN APOLOGY FROM MIYAZAKI FOR THIS BULLSHIT
>>324015128
>>324015181
>>324015531
>>324015591
>easily beat boss who everyone says is difficult
>regularly win PvP
>"whaaa! you didn't powergame like me"
Viper yourselves, manbabies.
>>324015791
>You claimed it was a 'core mechanic' and that you HAD to use it.
I said it was a core mechanic of the game
I didn't say someone HAD to use it
Do you not know what words mean? Those are not synonyms.
Estus flaks are a core mechanic of the Souls games, you don't have to use them if you want an optional challenge, but saying that the games are hard because there is no healing is dumb.
>Bloodborne
>Soul Series
pic obviously the best
>>324015990
>he maxed endurance
>also everyone said maria is hard
kek all humanoid bosses are parry bait
>>324015456
Do you think he would have lifted?
>>324016107
Shame the actual fight itself is so simple and easy. Not to mention how easily it can be cheesed. Everything else is great.
>>324015115
>Dark Souls
>Slower than Dark Souls 2
I never got this meme.
In Dark II your movement is floaty and slightly faster, but rolling is slower, attack animations are generally slower, and stamina regenerates so much more slowly. Try to play Dark Souls at 60fps and you'll find it faster.
>>324016107
I think OP is talking about gameplay, not feels.
>>324013565
Yeah, but Mergos and Moon Presence were complete jokes, despite being real Great Ones and are adults
>>324015990
>50 end
>literally overleveled scrub
If you're doing Maria after level ~35, you're a scrub that deserves to die.
Proper boss order is Gascoigne -> BSB -> Amelia -> Ludwig -> rest of dlc
If you don't do it that way, you're literally a shitter that don't deserve to play BB.
>>324016131
>also everyone said maria is hard
As you can see, I wasn't the one saying it.
Also, didn't parry her.
I just wailed away at her until she was at 1/2 life, and did it again. She didn't even enter her exploding blood phase before she ate it.
>>324015963
What a fucking mistake this boss was.
>reskin
>first phase just stay to your left, his right and he can't hit you
>second phase stay to the same side and he still can't hit you
>>324015963
what's wrong with super saiyan cleric beast?
>>324016247
Lol, if you play it that way you literally have no life outside of From Soft games.
>>324016030
>I said it was a core mechanic of the game
>I didn't say someone HAD to use it
You said the boss was poorly design because everyone should use a 'core mechanic' to render it easy and by not doing so you're making it 'artificially' difficult.
You failed to understand that that core mechanic (visceral damage) is exclusive to ONE stat, and thus builds that don't invest in points in SKILL get nothing from viscerals.
Therefore it's an optional mechanic, and is in fact an actual detriment to DPS to use on Arcane, STR, Bloodtinge, Ayyy and Beast Mode builds, as they do far better DPS by avoiding parry bait viscerals since they don't get a damage bonus built into their stat.
Face it, you're wrong anon. You probably didn't even know visceral damage was exclusive to the Skill stat.
>best theme
>most hype transformation
>based weapon
>visceral ending
easily the best boss fight in the game/series.
Seath because of the character model.
>>324016547forgot pic
>>324016404
And they were poorly designed because they are easy to cheese
Again how are you having trouble grasping this, are you actually this retarded?
>>324012249
O+S is and was always shit.
>>324016240
Wet Nurse is just a guardian.
Moon Presence is actually insanely strong. You can't fight him without becoming a great one while you can fight Orphan while being still mostly just a human. He just shits the bed once someone is actually able to ascend to his own level as his strongest abilities are manipulative ones.
>>324013030
This webm is how my fight went down. NG++ on my first run through TOH. We were trading blow for blow for the last thirty seconds as Kin vs Beast.
>tfw no cute hunter gf
>>324013221
what are you on about he's clearly a kin
>>324013030
>that health bar
I want to hug Djura!
>>324016848
He's a lighting-controlling great one.
Not all great ones are a kin.
He's not a kin.
>>324012135
The top fights are always gonna be Artorias and Gehrman and Ludwig, and False King Allant.
>>324012859
Underrated reply
>>324012135
I dunno about best, but he was definitely the hardest for me
I ate shit on this faggot on my BL43 so many times I lost count
Demon's Souls: false king Alant
Dark souls: Ornstein & smough
Dark souls 2: Burnt Ivory king
Bloodborne: Gherman
Ivory king is underrated as fuck, he never gets mentioned in these threads but he's a very fun boss and the build up to his fight is god tier and his lore is great as well.
>>324012852
>le "ds2 was a disappointment" meme
>>324012135
I don't know. But this guy though.
>Hardest boss fight
Nope.
>>324018978
what the fuck
>>324019091
Just go to Drangleic Castle and BUY the shield with 100% dark resistance and reasonable stability.
Enchant your weapon with fire and swing at him.
He's really not that hard.
>>324019091
he said best not hardest
and darklurker was easy as fuck like most dark souls 2 bosses
>>324012821
If you're talking about Raime, he was too easy to be the best boss of the DLC
>>324016247
>Hey play this hard game that's only hard if you choose to not level up and understand what you're doing
Why does the Moon Presence hate Mergo, again? Or does it hate the Wet Nurse? Either way, it wants you to kill the Wet Nurse and ONLY the Wet Nurse, before it considers your contract fulfilled, and offers you a way out of the Dream. Why is this?
>>324018978
that nigga was clearly off the chain
>>324019497
and HOW is mergo the source of the beastly scourge?
>>324019630
it's not, the Moon Presence is.
>transcend the Hunter's Dream by halting the spreading source of the Scourge of Beasts
you only TRANSCEND the Dream and take it over when you kill the MP. otherwise you just leave it.
>>324012502
What the hell are you talking about anon? Orphan is just one boss
>>324018726
Ivory King was the single best character in all of Dark Souls 2 and Dark Souls 2 lore, and he had the most epic boss fight
why does no one ever want to talk about lore anymore?
>>324018763
>>324019703
I would love that theory if there was more to back it up, anything that hints to moon presence being behind the scourge?
>>324018978
>>324019234
>>324019520
>Ever doubting the best npc of the franchise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihTIbshVVEs
>>324012135
Absolutely
>literally an inhumanely stronk babby that just got out of his mother's womb
>flailing around just trying to fend off what he sees as a threat
>all of his moves screams POWER
>dat sweet boss theme
He got my blood pumped the whole fight. Feels like I'm fighting some monster straight out of a shonen manga or some shit.
Kinda feel bad though that I finished the DLC before the main game. Gehrman nice too, but I would just put it a bit higher after Maria.
Artorias. His aesthetic, his theme, the way he moves. When I finally learnt to dodge all his attacks was when I finally got good at DaS, the fight is rhythmic and just fun as all hell.
Poor Sif.
>>324020656
more hints nothing concrete
First off, the MP is in charge of reproduction. It dropping the blood red moon is what gives all of the other Great Ones the go-ahead to breed. It therefore stands to reason that having kids is it's sphere of influence.
Second, we know that Great Ones can cast curses on civilizations that displease them. The Loran and Defiled chalices, as well as the DLC, all corroborate this idea. We also know that the Pthumerian civilization of Loran (and it is Pthumerian, you can access it in the Old Labyrinth) was cursed and subsequently fell to Beasthood. We also know that Loran was cursed because they had unauthorized kids -- children and marriage were highly regulated during the time of Pthumeru, and only Great One - sanctioned unions were permitted (see the Ring of Betrothal).
The logical conjecture to make is that the people of Loran pissed off a Great One by having unauthorized children (bastards of Loran), and the Great One cursed them with Beasthood in response.
The most logical Great One to do so is the MP, since it's sphere is reproduction, and therefore out of all the Great Ones that we know about, it's the most obvious choice to get pissy about people not listening to it about when to breed.
Of course the DLC reveals that the specifics of this curse meant infecting the Old Blood with Vermin, and the blood-chugging Pthumerians went down in flames. Yharnam inherited the Curse when the Healing Church started handing out tainted blood from the Old Labyrinth without caring that it was infected with Vermin.
>>324019091
no one said anything about hardest. It pisses me off whenever I post a DeS boss as my fave and people go "WHAT HE WAS SO EZ!" Nigga all the bosses in DeS can be considered easy, but they were all enjoyable as hell. Pulling the storm ruler out of the ground and using it against the Storm King gave me such a hard on. Games don't do shit like that anymore.
>>324020946
fuck Sif.
>no Chosen Undead pls don't go into the Abyss I would rather die than see you get corrupted like my master
fuck that dog. guess what? i already fought the Abyss once -- you saw me do it, I SAVED YOU. I personally beat Manus' ass, and you were there to witness me do it as a summon! I'm not going to get consumed by the Abyss, trust me. Just hand over the fucking ring. dumb dog.
>>324021142
I mean he's just a bigass wolf, dude doesn't really understand how shit works (not like anyone in Lordran really does). He just knows that 'Abyss = BAD BAD BAD BAD".
>>324012745
It's his placenta
>>324021334
why does his placenta have a built-in blade?
>>324021385
Didn't yours?
I have a theory (probably unoriginal and debunked) but the quote "When the red moon hangs low, the line between man and beast is blurred. And when the Great Ones descend, a womb will be blessed with child." seems like it could be talking about the three cords ending. With how low the moon is behind MP as he descends and then after you kill him the doll seems to treat you as her child.
>>324013103
The only boss I parried2win was pthumerian descendant. Christ that fucker hit hard and fast.
>>324021414
no, is that not normal?
>>324021435
it's telling you that the Red Moon is a signal for the Great Ones that it's ok to descend on the city and start knocking up humans for muh surrogates. coincidentally, the plague of beasts tends to go out of control, as well.
>>324016650
Someone never beat biggie and smalls
Well, OOK is one of the best in the series, that's a fact, too much offensive and the transf. is insane.
But I think that fights like Ludwig one or Maria are more impressive in visual and gameplay terms.
daily reminder that not all pc users are shitposters, some of us actively talk about the game and just wish we could play it ourselves.
Ludwig and Logarius alone makes me super jelly. Oh well, here's to Das3, there's sure to be some rad bosses
>>324021091
what a memefest that guide was. I dont like it
>>324021540
well that's like...... your opinion man
>>324021435
the red moon drops regardless of how many cords you've eaten, the two are unrelated
>>324015696
Im confused. I got BB 2 days ago and just beat it. Why wouldnt you use a gun?
>>324018726
This.
Human type bosses are clearly best bosses.
I would add Artorias to DS1 and Sir Alone to DS2 though.
I really like Gwyn too, it's a shame that he is that easy, because the area, his theme, and even the character itself is cool.
>>324016726
You're a moron. The Wet Nurse is a full fledged great one and you are not a great one when you fight the MP. Not yet anyway.
>>324021701
here's another
>>324021981
>and you are not a great one when you fight the MP
You are in an active process of ascending. High enough to be able to reject his influence, not high enough to nullify his godlike abilities like a 1hp gaze or heal sealing.
>>324012249
>Tower Knight
What the fuck, that's such a middling tier boss
>>324021658
i wish for it to come to the pc too pcfriend
it's annoying that 1. console exclusivity keeps people from enjoying it
2. everytime there is talk about this game jelly fags shit up the threads
if it were released on pc there would be less shitposting and more actual talk about the game
>>324021385
Im not up on my Great One physiolog enough to know why placentas are weaponized. Regardless the Orphan still has his umbilical cord attached to his belly button and its anchored to the placenta.
>>324021981
the Wet Nurse is so powerful that it can generate a Nightmare
![Pole_axe_2[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/Rx7ULfI.png "Pole_axe_2[1].png")
>>324021818
How are you going to use a gun while twirling circles with this axe?
>>324022310
>using the spin2win on the tricked axe
l2 and r2 spam is far more efficient
>>324012135
It's literally a re-enactment of a fight from bleach. Can't find a clip but it's literally when he first fights his hollow inside himself.
>>324021464
>he didn't visceral his midwife
You had one job
boss expectations/hopes for Das3?
>>324012856
Only enemy in bloodborne I had trouble with and I platinumed
>>324022126
In the process of becoming a great one actively proves you are not in fact a great one
>>324022424
>be midwife in Yharnam
>have to master iframe dodges to avoid getting 1HKOed by the baby
hardcore
>>324012623
>not equipping the embrace rune and screaming back
>>324022302
I'm not so sure it;s the Wet Nurse generating the nightmare. She is by far the most mysterious Great One. We know very little about her. Her name implies a symbiotic relationship with Mergo however. Also, keep in mind that the nightmare slain message appears not when you kill the Wet Nurse but when the crib tips over and Mergo's crying ceases. There's a significant delay between when that Nightmare Slain texts appears and the Wet Nurse's death as compared to when you kill he Moon Precedence. The text appears almost immediately there. I suspect that Mergo is the true source of the nightmare but his stillborn status may have compromised his power. The Wet Nurse, as all great ones desire a child, cares for what's left of Mergo and sustains his life so he can maintain the nightmare.
>>324012623
I know what you mean. Laurence's OST just isn't the same without
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
in the background
>>324022903
while it's true that you only get NIGHTMARE SLAIN after Mergo stops crying, consider that you don't get an independent PREY SLAUGHTERED message for killing the Wet Nurse. In addition, you don't get your soul rewards until NIGHTMARE SLAIN pops up, either, so it's not like the Wet Nurse is dropping it's souls and then you see NIGHTMARE SLAIN. the issue of the souls dropping on the same delay as the victory message is what tips my belief in favor that it's the Wet Nurse that is generating the Nightmare.
imo what's happening is that you kill the Wet Nurse's body, but it tries to hang on even in spirit, until Mergo dies on account of a lack of life support. then the Wet Nurse lets go, and you get your Blood Echoes and NIGHTMARE SLAIN for your trouble. It's kind of like how killing the Orphan's body doesn't actually kill it, it lingers on as a spirit so long as it feels that it has business to do.
>>324016637
1 out of 4 being able to cheese is pretty good design bub
Especial since Gehrman isn't easy to parry, considering he has 3 attacks from the same stance at varying speeds, and he's the worst offender of the bullet going over his head in the game.
>>324012623
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3nR_4F1anI
>>324023347
fuck me
>>324013221
And you surely knew that right away
>>324012623
The One Reborn sorta unnerved me with its muttering/screaming
>>324022431
The Dancer was great, and it had the level of uniqueness that all the Demon's Souls bosses had.
Hoping most bosses are as memorable and interesting.
>>324023092
We're saying the same thing essentially. Killing he Wet Nurse is essentially killing Mergo because he is unable to survive on his own, hence the necessity for a "Wet Nurse". Once you kill her, Mergo dies shortly afterward and the nightmare is finally slain. I use the term die here loosely as I don't believe Great Ones truly die or at least they don't die n the same way the mortals do.
>>324023559
>dancer of the frigid valley
T H I C K
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>>324023605
>>324014158
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>>324014158
>>324022392
Can't find a videoclip but he laughs the same way as orphan of kos
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120229002514/bleach/en/images/3/34/DeadlyDarts.gif
>>324012623
The screams and the jumping around and all the projectiles got me super hyped up, especially in the second phase. I died to Orphan tons of times but it was always really fun.
>>324023580
I had always thought that the Wet Nurse was setting up the Nightmare for Mergo to live in, as a part of it's life support duties.
Also, I think that the MP wanted the Hunter to kill the Wet Nurse, not Mergo (as is commonly believed). the MP is being beckoned by Mergo's crying, and wants to take Mergo as a surrogate child. the Wet Nurse stops it from doing this -- notice that the Moon in the Nightmare of Mensis isn't red, and logically it should be, considering that the MP is trying to get at it's lure (Mergo). We know from the DLC that the Great Ones that control Nightmares seem to have some limited control over the Moon in their own Nightmares (see the fucked-up Moon in the Hunter's Nightmare that appears only there, and disappears when you kill the Orphan's spirit). So IMO the Wet Nurse is blocking the Red Moon in the Nightmare to stop the MP from stealing it's baby. The MP wants the Wet Nurse dead because muh surrogate. Jokes on it, though, since Mergo dies when you kill the Wet Nurse.
>>324022431
They will be Bloodborne reskins. Different desing, almost same movesets. I'm calling it right know..
>>324023580
Is that why the nightmare slain thingy takes so much time to appear?
>>324024114
Exactly. It's intentional. The Wet Nurse isn't the progenitor if the nightmare, it's Mergo. He dies AFTER you kill the Wet Nurse which is why the message appears to "lag" when you kill her. The nightmare slain appears only when the crying, Mergo, stops.
>>324015405
>Ludwig, the Accursed
>feral
>lasted (and still lasting) the longest to succumb to the beastly scourge, hence his form
>MLGS
>his guiding moonlight
>remembers
>becomes THE hunter once more
>Ludwig, the Holy Blade
His boss fight and music really summed up what Bloodborne was to me
>>324024087
>implying bloodborne will have anything as amazing as Skelly-Man, Big Head of the Crypt
>>324024087
pretty sure the tall hollows from the latest gameplay video had the movesets of the villagers of yharnam.
>>324023987
I still think the MP wants you to kill Mergo specifically. The mission you are given explicitly states "slay the nightmare newborn." That is clearly referring to Mergo. The Moon Presence desires a surrogate, like all the other Great Ones, and Gherman fills that role as he is the host of the hunters dream. This is also why the MP embraces you lovingly, like a child, upon the defeat of Gherman. It is only when you start to become a great one yourself that th MP recoils in disgust and attacks you The MP seems to be threatened by other Great Ones and is territorial as well although only to a specific few for unknown reasons. Namely, Mergo and the hunter if he ascends.
>>324023987
Pretty sure eye ball spider is the thing stopping the moon.
It took me 3 fucking hours and 150 vials to beat this thing yesterday
Parried to 40% with pizza cutter and switched to serrated for the rest
>>324022209
You say that, yet after Dark Souls was ported the threads were infinitely worse.
>>324025016
You're a fag
>>324025224
Need I remind you that the flood of artificial difficulty shitposting and low quality discussion was because of the port?
>>324025386
That shit has been around since DeS. All the PC port brought other than a revival in popularity was shitposting over the FPS dips in Blighttown. And complaints about how the port itself was absolute shit, which it was.
>>324024612
and then it dies and the Nightmare still blocks the red moon, which shows up everywhere else
>>324025640
>That shit has been around since DeS
In small doses, sure, but that's been the case in every thread about games with some sort of challenge to them. Nothing compared to drop in quality of discussion following the port, mixed with console war shittery.
>>324026149
Look at those goal posts go!
>>324024525
You need to slay the Nightmare Newborn and end the Mensis ritual because the MP getting exited enough to drop the Bloodred Moon is causing the Scourge to go out of control. You aren't killing Mergo on the MP's orders, that's coincidental. You're killing Mergo because you want to save the town.
With respect to Gehrman, I don't think he was the surrogate child, basically because the MP doesn't seem very vengeful or angry when you kill him. It flipflops very abruptly from Gehrman to you for such a monumental commitment as a surrogate child. No hard feelings, right? I dunno. I always interpreted the relationship between Gehrman and the MP as one between an employee and his boss, as opposed to a foster child and his parent.
>>324012623
the screams were fucking great, he's a representation of /v/ when it comes to literally any topic
also the screams basically tell you way ahead of time what he's going to do .
>>324026289
but hes right, des had barely any discussion, same with ds, but as soon as it gets ported to the piratestation BAM, meme after meme.
>>324026347
HUNTERS GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT OF MY VILLAGE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
SKREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>324012479
>pewdiepie kills him first try
>hardest
Either pewdiepie is good, the game is easy or you fags are casuals.
>>324026289
I didn't move a thing. I never said the threads were a shining beacon of quality to start with. I only said that the quality of discussion dropped significantly after the PC port and that's a fact.
which monster in BB has the best screams, /v/?
>>324021091
I agree.
False Idol is super easy, but one of my fav bosses in souls games ever.
>>324026549
The only thing really wrong with these threads is faggots like you bitching about other platforms.You were the shitposter the whole time anon
>>324026470
PDP has been playing games forever and pretends to be retarded for money, of course he's good.
>>324026625
ludwig
Dunno, I beat him first try, NG+ too. I was level 155 or so though with 793AR Ludwig Blade. I really enjoyed it overall, short though it was.
>>324026470
This.
If you think he's hard you're admitting that pewdiepie is good at video games.
>>324026665
>that resolution
EW DUDE! Since I'm here anyway have the nearly 700 image DeS album I have been working on: http://imgur.com/a/XhBxC
>>324026470
>pdp is bad at games
ayyyy
I bet you also think he's retarded, and not a money-making genius.
>>324026957
>>324026693
because she's a qt girl
should have been an NPC instead of a boss
>>324026874
I didn't do any of the platform bitching. In the month before the port released I was finally happy that the neverending constant stream of Dark Souls threads had slowed down to a point that was actually bearable. Then the port released and there were 3+ threads on page 0 at all times for months and it was just as bad as before /vg/ removed all the generals.
>>324027057
Talking about qt girls.
Are there any porn of her?
It's seems there're only Maiden in black porn.
4kings is my favorite souls boss
![what-is-cancer[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cJWwGxT.jpg "what-is-cancer[1].jpg")
>>324027138
>I didn't do any of the platform bitching
You're doing it right now. In this thread.
>>324026470
pdp ironically pretends to be bad at games because that's what his blind idiot fanbase demands. he's better than you think
>>324026957
>1923
This triggers my autsim.
>>324027269
I was talking about back in 2012. I do it now because I'm a worse person that I used to be.
>>324027253
if the girl isn't:
Maiden in Black
Gwynevere
Priscilla
there is basically no porn of her
>>324026881
Yea I beat him on my first try as well on ng+ under a minute with my lvl4 smurf with +0 stake driver while wearing no armor, using no blood vials at allowed and having only 7 vitality.
Did I mention I was playing blind and that my dominant hand was handicapped that day too?
I don't know why people think he's hard at all. Easiest boss in the game to be honest
>>324027354I bet you even play Darksouls on PC
>>324027441
I don't what this post is trying to achieve. Sorry.
>>324013554
>And 'difficulty' in Souls games boils down to levelling so it's a moot point.
you are wrong
>>324027474
I haven't touched the series on PC. I've got DeS, DaS and DaS2 on PS3 and BB on PS4.
>>324026549
I'll rather blame popularity. When something gets popular memes happen and discussion quality drops. I have seen this shit on /a/ a lot. Des was not very popular and neither was Das at launch. Das got popular with time.
The reason why people memed about Das after the PC version was because the port was fucking unplayable until DSfix happened.
>>324027474
there is nothing wrong with playing DaS on pc
>>324027441
you cant be level 4 with 7 vit
waste of skin is the only level 4 and it starts with 10 vit
noble scion starts with 7 vit, but is level 10
