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http://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/01/sega-reveals-new-25th-anniversary-details-branded-events-new-style-guides/

>possibly up to four new sonic games this year
(fire and ice, Mario and Sonic at Rio, new 2d classic sonic game, and new 3d modern sonic game)
>celebration will be throughout the ENTIRE year, not just in summer or fall
>more events
>sonic boom is getting recognition
>Archie Sonic is now called "comic book Sonic"
>Classic Sonic is being referred to as "Pixel Sonic"
>they are claiming 2016 to be Sonic's best year yet

Get your dicks ready folks. This is it. How will they fuck it up this time.
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>>323519062
I almost believed you until sonic boom
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>>323519062
>How will they fuck it up this time

More Sticks, everywhere, all the time, always.
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Oh boy, I'm just hoping the latter 2 platformers won't be a mess. I think they'll do the 3D platformer alright but the 2D will be make or break depending on how much they choose to butcher Clas- I mean, Pixel Sonic.
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>Classic Sonic is being referred to as "Pixel Sonic"
that fucking reading comprehension, it literally means they're using the old sprites on merch
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>>323519062
oh my fucking hell. no fucking way. theyre seriously making boom sonic official? i thought that was just a spin off by sega america and nothing to do with sonic teams plans?

jesus fucking christ this is going to be a disaster
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>>323519245
the show is doing well
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>>323519062
>celebration through the whole year
calling it now, they'll just shit out merchandise
>up to four games
they never mention that. it's just boom, olympics, and anniversary game. sonic stadium just likes stirring up shit
>comic book sonic
>pixel sonic
this is just for dumbasses who don't know what a genesis and archie are

i can't say i have much faith, since they said the 15th anniversary would be the best thing ever. they are merely trying to cash in on the hype of casuals as usual that don't know sonic's shit history. all we can do now is wait and see everything crash down.
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>>323519245
>>323519483
It's a poster used to sell the brand to merchandisers you idiots, not a game
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>>323519062
>The Classic Sonic licensing programme is a celebration of the brand's heritage as the most popular and most iconic video game character of all time

Wait what? Are they saying he's more popular than Mario?
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Sonic nendo rerelease W H E N?
I bought a bootleg one because scalpers.
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>>323519726
>classic sonic proportions
>modern sonic features

???
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>>323519649
Why the fuck is boom sonic there then?
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>>323519820
Kind of like the SA1 model.
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>>323519062
>Boom Sonic

Why must they keep acknowledging his existence?
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>>323520201
The unleashed model is still the best and cutest 3D sonic model.
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>>323520374

Everything but the games did pretty well.
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>new 2D Sonic
can't wait for them to fuck it up.
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>>323520524
The show is pretty good for a chuckle, but it has this weird void-like atmosphere where everything seems stilted.
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>>323520661
>tfw 2D sonic is shit

Cant wait to see the new 3D game though, lost world used way to much 2D. Generations was better but by default at least 50% of the game was 2D and then add the modern sonic 2D sections, so maybe 70% 2D total. Colors was literally almost all 2D, 3D was just used for cinematics and stunts and reminding you sonic goes fast. I feel like Unleashed was the last fully 3D game so Ive been waiting forever
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>>323520035
Because other than the games it has been a success?
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>>323520374
>>323519483

Sonic Boom was made for the show intentionally more priority

The game just exists as a tie in prequel to the show
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>>323520918
Maybe because low budget?

Personally I want them to get better music in the show.
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>>323519062
they should just call classic sonic "retro" sonic

also holy fuck i miss old eggman
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>>323519062
Well, SEGA already fucked up by acknowledging sonic boom as something worth celebrating
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>>323521101
>Maybe because low budget?
It's definitely a budget thing. They've got some french animation team pumping out episodes in rapid fashion.

>Personally I want them to get better music in the show.
This along with more audio work overall would probably help alleviate some of the stiffness in scenes. It's amazing what good sound composition can do to make things seem more alive.
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>>323519062
>sonic boom is getting recognition
Because of the show, not the games
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>>323521151
Eggman is 6 feet tall? His roundness is really throwing me off
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I used to love Sonic so much. I used to play house with plushies of sonic characters with my siblings. I followed anything sonic related back then. I even enjoyed 06. Around the time of generations, I lost my love for him. I just want another good game. Fuck Sonic 4. Fuck Lost World. Fuck Boom.
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>>323519062
I should feel excited for this, but I feel nothing. I don't think I can really say I'm a Sonic fan anymore.
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>>323519062
Whatever it is, they should stay away from Nintendo
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Super secret leak

It has Sonic
He collects rings
He goes Fast
Eggman has been confirmed
Repeat Eggman is confirmed
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>>323522391
Don't forget plenty of new friends!
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>>323520035
Because it's part of the Sonic franchise? Are you being serious?
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>4 Sonic games in a year

sega pls, what did i ever do to you
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>>323522391

bullshit
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I honestly like Boom's design, and glad that they're still using it./spoiler]
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>>323522679
why
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Havent played Sonic Generations. Should I give it a try?
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>>323520961
Unleashed had plenty of 2D sections as well, anon.
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>>323522913
Yes
It's pretty good
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>>323522490
Anon, that hasn't been a thing in the sonic series for a decade.
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>>323523030
Even if its on 360?
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>>323520493

PC port of Unleashed when?
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>>323522913
Stop listening to the "Sonic Generations is good" meme that's spouted on this board.

It's not good, even the demo sucks.

No modern Sonic is good.
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>>323523153
ebin
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>>323523119
You'll miss out on the Unleashed mod
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>>323522913
Yes. Best 3D Sonic.
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>>323519483
The Sonic Boom show is by far the best Sonic tv show.
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>>323523281
I'd say Unleashed was much better if it weren't for all the filler.
And the majority of Generations is 2D anyway.
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>>323523153
go to bed, arin
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>>323523528
Unleashed Day stages are certainty much better and it is faster, but the controls are better in Generations. I actually didn't like colors much.
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>>323523337
Nah cartoon was better
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>>323523135
Technically, there's the Generations mod that includes all of the daytime Unleashed levels aside from Eggmanland and the night stages. I wouldn't mind an actual port of Unleashed if they changed the night stages to where the stage music always plays even during combat instead of being overridden by the battle/fight music.
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>yfw they'll all be mediocre
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>>323522953
Yeah but it was still fairly balanced, especially compared to what came after. The werehog being a full 3D platformer really helped it feel like 3D was the predominant genre in Unleashed as well

I just want that feeling again of a primary 3D platformer. I miss when you stuck to the handheld games if you wanted 2D and console sonics if you wanted 3D
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>>323522913
pirate it if you're getting it for pc, it's fun but its short as fuck and you'll never play it again afterwards.
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Whatever happened to the Sonic movie that they were planning to do?
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>>323524174
>you'll never play it again afterwards
What?
Do you not enjoy trying to beat your best time?
Do you not enjoy finding different paths and shit?
Most good Sonic games are designed almost primarily with replay value in mind, and Generations is no exception.
Are you really playing it like some linear story-focused AAA game?
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>>323523890
Thats nothing a quick mod cant fix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoLN6uVtb_o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftyDZouqJ1Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQxaI50HLzE

Man Unleashed is really a work of art. The way it so lovingly celebrates major cultures in a style that inspires childish wonder is something else. The night stages are very under rated because of the constant battles and battle music. A mod to make the werehog 1 hit kill everything and disable the battle music would show that there was a great puzzle platformer buried in there all these years that everyone unfairly shat on
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>>323524252
No news since the announced it. Writer said they are aiming for a PG-13 rating, though.
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>>323519062
>All this shit

Laffo. What a joke.

Sonic will always be dead.
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>>323524727
>them balls
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>>323519062
OMFG Why the fuck would they put Uncharted Sonic in there?
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>>323524990
Because his show is a runaway success?
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>>323519062
>possibly up to four new sonic games this year
K
>celebration will be throughout the ENTIRE year, not just in summer or fall
If they put out 3-4 games, of course it'll be all year.
>sonic boom is getting recognition
Not surprising
>Archie Sonic is now called "comic book Sonic"
>Classic Sonic is being referred to as "Pixel Sonic"
Those are just how they are described. Pixel just refers to Classic Sonic as a sprite, and comic book Sonic is self-explanatory. Hell, they say Classic Sonic in the pic in the article.
>they are claiming 2016 to be Sonic's best year yet
Yeah, and they claimed pic related too.
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>>323519062
> sonic boom a smashing success
> no TV station has ever played it

I don't think people know the meaning of success. Sonic cartoons were on more
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I'm sick of all the stupid fucking teases.

Just do it so we can get on with our lives.
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What the fuck is up with Boom? So you've got this video game franchise that's lost 95% of its audience due to poor quality games. Then you've got this same franchise made into a modestly successful children's television show. And to tie in with the show, you've got games that Sega knows are terrible beyond redemption in either quality or infamy and they just keep releasing them. It's like a snake eating itself to survive. Where the fuck is this going in the longrun and who is making this stuff up?
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>>323519062
I hope we get some Knuckles stages in the supposed new 3d game.
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>>323525860
If they would be like the stages from Adventure 1/2, then no thanks.
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>>323520493
Can't say I agree. Modern Sonic looks like a goofy idiot.
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>>323523980
Im assuming the 2d sonic is just going to be sonic 4 episode 3
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>>323526036
Knuckles would be perfect for a character action segment, if only Sonic Team could do it without fucking it up.
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>>323526154
Unless they change the style, that wouldn't happen. If we were to get a 2D game, it'd be something Classic Sonic related.
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It annoys me that Sonic Boom is there as if it's something significant at all.
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>>323526192
Perhaps I'm just being stupid but maybe Unleashed would have been better if the nigger animal stages were just knuckles instead and not at night.
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>>323525860
There is no way people enjoyed knuckles levels. They slowed the game down to a halt and how many times can knuckles loose the emeralds because he was asleep
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>>323519062

will we FINALLY get a sonic game that doesn't introduce a new character?
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>>323526192
>>323525860
>sonic unleashed 2
>as ambitious and complete as the first one
>knuckles replaces werehog, same general style and design of werehog stages remain; combat, platforming, light puzzles and exploration
>sonic is hunting for the chaos emeralds in the day
>dark gaia fucked with the master emerald, so knuckles has to look for the pieces at night
>tails replaces chip
>amy has her same role as cute doting sonic fan

y/n
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>>323526409
Do you count the little alien things in Sonic Colors as characters? I don't.
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>>323526409

There hasn't been a new, mainstay character since 06, Sticks aside.
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>>323526549
n
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I'm still mad Sonic Boom didn't at least have good music.
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It's really sad to think that one day Sega will die and be bought out by EA.
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>>323525254
I remember hoping the reveal would just pan out to show the gang making shadow puppets and making fun of drastic redesigns.
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I read the post in OP and I saw literally nothing worth note aside from the "throughout the year" bit.

I'll care about sonic's anniversary when I actually see something new from sega.
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>>323526669
Blame Richard Jacques
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>>323526579
I had to look up who Sticks was.
I watched someone play through Sonic Boom, and I don't remember her.
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>>323520493
Yuck
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>>323526845

She's not in the Wii U version.
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>>323526968
>>323526845
Sticks was non-noteworthy NPC in Boom for Wii U. Kinda like she was never meant to be in the role she is in the show and other game.
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I didn't even know there was more than one Sonic Boom game till this thread.
I remember the first one came out and was a huge disappointment. They kept making them anyways? Doesn't seem like anyone paid attention after the first ether.
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>>323526409
Will people FINALLY realize this hasn't been an issue for the past decade, or recognize that the issue was the different gameplay types and not the characters themselves as no one seemed to mind every game adding at least one character until Adventure came along?
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>>323527165

knuckles was the last worthwhile new character
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>>323526401
I know, but there must be some way they can implement him effectively without resorting to a snoozefest treasure hunt.
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>>323524481
>Man Unleashed is really a work of art
I fucking cringed
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>>323527134
There was the Wii U and 3DS game that came out around the same time.

A new 3DS game coming up called Fire & Ice.

And a mobile endless runner that is a sequel to Sonic's other endless runner.
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>>323527243
E-102 Gamma was fun and interesting.
Too bad they just fucked up his gameplay format immediately with SA 2.
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>>323526549
n
Unleashed sucked
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>>323527165
That was the fanbase. The very shitty fanbase.

SA2 and Sonic Battle were fine, but Rush and '06 CROSSED THE FUCKING LINE.

But nooooo, /v/ had to drool all over Blaze, and the turbo autists latched directly onto Silver's ass and never let go, and now it's just fucked.
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>>323526779
Richard Jacques worked on the 3DS Version not the Wii U one
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>>323527540
>SA2
>fine
SA2 was ass.
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>>323527540

shoulda just put Sally in the games. make her a techno nerd ala Coco Bandicoot or the like
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>>323527540
Rush was an okay game. I'd hardly put it in league with 06. Blaze didn't even play differently from Sonic.
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>>323527584
Jacques worked on both versions.
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>>323527298
Come on now, the game is beautiful.
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>>323527674
No he didn't
Wikipedia fucked that up
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>>323527591
Shadow and Rouge were fine additions. Although I wish Shadow hadn't gone full edgelord, was more of a "perfect warrior" type.

We're not talking gameplay.
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>>323527591
a fine ass game
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>>323527716
Too bad that and the music is all it's got going for it
The game is terrible
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Can Boom just fuck off, please?
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>>323527298
You dont think so? Suit yourself

Nothing has yet to surpass unleashed in graphics or art style and design. And that was in 2008
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>>323527814
>We're not talking gameplay.
see
>>323527165
>recognize that the issue was the different gameplay types and not the characters themselves
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>>323527619
Ehhhh, if the comics hadn't become such drama, I'd agree.

>>323527653
Rush is playable.
'06 is just UGH
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>>323527936
The gameplay types were fine.

The characters were what was shit.

Fucking alternate dimensions. Same shit wrecked Kirby.
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>>323526779
>>323527584
>>323527674
>>323527805
Richard Jaques is shit regardless of whether he worked on Boom or not.
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>>323527887
kek
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>>323527619
>shoulda just put Sally in the games.
How about no?
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>>323527895
Sorry anon. The TV show did good, so that means we have to deal with it until it gets canned.
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>>323527895
I wasn't bothered by Boom initially, even though I knew it was a sub par game. But the way they are continuing to force it is making me hate it a bit more every time I see it.

And no, I don't care about the cartoon any more than I care about the comics. Sonic is a video game series to me. The characters and setting works well for colorful platformers, but as their own entity they fail to interest me at all.
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>>323527887
Nah.
Any content that isn't a daytime level is generally pretty poor, but those daytime levels are fucking great, and Colors and Generations mostly just took steps back from it aside from removing the QTEs.
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>>323527903
Colors had better art design.
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>>323528072
>Fucking alternate dimensions. Same shit wrecked Kirby.
What are you talking about now?
Kirby has never been wrecked. There's like maybe two bad games in the whole series.
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>>323528286
Not a chance in hell buddy
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>>323528238
The 2D sections in the daytime stages were terrible, and played worse than Sonic 4. 3D parts were nice though. Too bad they only made up like 40% of the game.
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>>323528112
>Richard Jacques
>The man who composed the legendary Sonic R soundtrack
>The man who composed the legendary Sonic 3D Blast Saturn Soundtrack
>The man who composed shit like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMTi5b1ca4U
>Shit

Fuck off
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>>323528072
Uh what Kirby game had alternate dimensions besides Amazing Mirror?
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>>323528112
What's wrong with him? The Saturn OST for 3D Blast has some damn good tracks here and there and he contributed to Jet Set Radio Future.
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>>323527887
I never got why people thought Unleashed was terrible. The speed stages looked and felt great and the night stages where wild and fun. My score was better on the night stages than the day stages.
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>>323528429
>played worse than Sonic 4
Stopped reading here.
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>>323528440
>>The man who composed the legendary Sonic 3D Blast Saturn Soundtrack
Sonic R had catchy music, but Saturn 3D Blast just sounded like stock music they borrowed from some unrelated library.
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>>323528306
I'm talking about
>Shadow Kirby
>Dark Metaknight
>Dark Mind
>Dark King Dedede
>Star Rod came from Halcandra instead of being something novel
>Magolor
>Dark Crafter

It still makes me fume.
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>>323528238
The daytime levels are terrible
And Generations kind of improved on them by making the level design more multi-tiered but it was still shit because Sonic still controls like a car
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>>323528475
>>323528440
3D blast genesis had better music than the saturn version
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>>323528490
Liking the Werehog stages is a minority opinion anon.
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>>323528440
Sonic R soundtrack was legendary for being cheesy as fuck and not fitting the game. It was still enjoyable though. Saturn 3D Blast soundtrack was mediocre as fuck and pales in comparison to the Genesis one.
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>>323525254
The shadows look a lot better than the actual designs
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>>323519062

Can't be worse than 06 right?
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>>323528614
That's true, but both soundtracks are great.
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>>323528453
Amazing Mirror, RtDL, TD. Was the wizard from MA from another dimension? What about Dark Nebula?
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>>323528614
Overall yes, but don't tell me Rusty Ruin, Gene Gadget, and Panic Puppet on the Saturn aren't great too.

Also don't forget how superior the Special Stage was to the Genesis one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlAaAlnSBVA
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>>323528490
>I never got why people thought Unleashed was terrible.
Because it's not a good game
And the "speed stages" consisted of running on a linear hallways most of the time
Werehog was a shovelware beat 'em up at best

I don't think it's that bad...it's an average game that I wouldn't mind playing again but it's not a good game
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>>323528589

you can't be serious
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>>323528698
Its really not. The only good songs in 3d blast saturn are the special stage and panic puppet act 1. Everything else sounds bizarre and doesnt fit at all. Genesis has a more arcadey classic feel to it which perfectly fits the game
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>>323528535
Stay in denial I guess. The boost games all have terrible 2D stuff, but Unleashed was the worst offender.
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>>323528541
>Saturn 3D Blast just sounded like stock music they borrowed from some unrelated library.
I don't want to even talk to you anymore anon
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>>323528812
>The boost games all have terrible 2D stuff
I agree, but they are still better than Sonic 4.

Also Colors' 2D was worse because it was the entire game.
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>>323528614
no
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>>323528678
>Sonic R soundtrack was legendary for being cheesy as fuck and not fitting the game
How exactly did it not fit the game?
The songs described the stages(kind of) and were fitting

There's also the Instrumental Soundtrack(where you can turn off the vocals) which imo is better than the one with the vocals but that's just me
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>>323528932
Level designs were better than Sonic 4 but I'm talking about the controls and physics. As shitty as Sonic 4's were he at least handled okay unlike the boost games.

And yes I forgot about how much 2D shit was in Colors. I retract my statement about Unleashed being the worst offender.
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>>323522391
going fast would be an improvement over boom
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>>323522913
generations is the best game to come out since SA2. the 2d and 3d sections both control great and if the throwbacks don't give you an erection you aren;t a real sonic fan
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>>323528589
I'm confused.
A lot of those were awesome boss fights.
Are you seriously flipping out about Kirby canon? Something that hardly exists?
Not that it matters if it exists or not, since Kirby belongs to such a fluid, dynamic universe.
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>>323526353
Unleashed on PC can help fix that.
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>>323529075
>I'm talking about the controls and physics
I know. That's why you're wrong.
At least in the sometimes 3D boost games you kept moving forward in the air when you let go of left or right and couldn't casually stroll up walls and shit.
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Sonic Boom Shattered Crystal had such great music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cc7laSFYyc
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>>323529219
>boom knuckles
>boom anything

NO
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Can you guys stop talking about the past and start talking about the future?!
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>>323529172
>generations is the best game to come out since SA2
I'm assuming you're ignoring handhelds.
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>>323528798
It's crap! This is Kirby, for FUCK'S SAKE! None of this shit fits!

Galacta Knight is okay, except his backstory could have been better,

And the dragons, which were Halcandra's Kirby, should have made it to Dream Land or been more of a single, marketable unit, or something.
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>>323529341
As shitty as that was I still prefer 4's controls to Sonic slipping and sliding all over the place in the boost 2D stuff.
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>>323528418
Colors definitely fucking had way better art design than Sonic Unleashed's boring ass Real World shit

Too bad that it was stuck on the Wii so it doesn't look as good as it could have looked
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>>323529503
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>>323529441
There is no Future for you SONIC
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>>323529503
You just seem upset that the fictional world of Kirby didn't elaborate in a way that matched your personal vision.
But why does it matter anyways? Kirby is not a story heavy series. Everything that happens in the games happens to service the game mechanics or make something cute/creepy appear on screen.
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>>323529631
I agree Colors had the better art design but I wouldn't day Unleashed's was boring.
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>>323529441
The future looks bleak
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Why has the music for sonic always been great where as the games have not been on par?
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>>323529631
Not to say that colors wasnt creative but I thought it was amazing how well modeled yet stylized the real world was in unleashed. Being in a small chinese or south east asia village, or a town in europe, or the big city new york in the united states was an incredible feeling since it looked so real but kept it surreal by having those pixar like humans.

If it looked bland like 06 i would agree but Unleashed has a really great engine and style powering it all which makes it win in the end
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>>323529808
Sega has always been god tier at music, it's not just Sonic.
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>>323529808
Outside of Generations, Sonic music has been forgettable since 06.
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>>323529427
https://youtu.be/2SETACyNGjU

But it works perfectly man without having to redo every animation.

Plus you'd love everything knuckles would have to say.
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>>323529794
It was boring for Sonic
You get what I'm sayin'...it looks good but it's too realistic/not fantastical enough for Sonic
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>>323529808
Sonic Chronicles and Sonic Boom are here to ruin your wonderful theory.
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Best Sonic song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vv6BSDJ8aw
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>>323529808
Because Sega always has fantastic composers.
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>>323529973
Sounds like PSO2 music. Same composer maybe?
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>>323529843
The art style was done well...it just doesn't fit Sonic

And I didn't like how the NPC's looked...they looked like Mii's
Give me anime-ish NPC's from SA1 anyday(not that I want NPC's in a Sonic game in the first place)
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>>323528589
>>323529503
Kirby villains have almost always been some personification of darkness. Even Meta Knight is to some extent supposed to be a darker Kirby.

Like, what about Nightmare or Dark Matter? That's about as classic as you can get with Kirby villains.
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>>323520661
Sonic 4 episode 2 was actually good, but everyone overlooked it because episode 1 was so shit.
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>>323530076
You think Unleashed's NPC's looked like Mii's. You must be high. Every one of them are pretty distinguishable too.

I don't want 06 Shit tier npc's again.
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>>323530076
I would want the humans to look like Eggman and the Billy Hatcher characters, actually in the style of the main cast.
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>>323529787
So it didn't turn out to look like Kirby's Adventure or Dream Land 1. That's fine, I guess. Although KA was pretty fucking sweet.

But all these edgy characters? Why? Can't it just be Dedede and Metaknight?

Can we have something different than "Evil Sorcerer For The Fifth Time In A Row" and "Not-Dark Matter"?
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>>323529914
Secret Rings, Colors, Unleashed, and Rush Adventure all have pretty good music.
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>>323530064
Yes actually, 2/3 of the PSO2 composers worked on zero gravity
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>>323530064
Same Sound Team works on both series
With Hideaki Kobayashi and Kenichi Tokoi working on both

Fumie Kumatani also worked on the original PSO
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>>323530236
The NPC's should look more Bioshockish.
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>>323530236
>I don't want 06 Shit tier npc's again
How about no NPC's...EVER
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>>323530197
It was definitely better than episode 1. I would stop short of calling it good but it was probably the best they could do with that busted ass physics engine.
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>>323530158
Yes, but Nightmare bit the dust, and Metaknight's no longer a recurring villain. Or even a villain.
Dark Matter was a good antithesis to Kirby.

Now, it's like, OH WELL, NO SENSE PLAYING THE NEXT KIRBY, BECAUSE THE FINAL BOSS IS JUST GONNA BE THE EVIL SORCERER FROM THE INTRO. AGAIN.
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>>323530076
Nah man youre nuts. They didnt look like miis. They looked like typical cartoony characters youd see in maybe a pixar movie or whatever.

It was great how the npcs actually had side stories, missions, and interesting dialogue etc in Unleashed. It was the first time the hub and npcs felt useful in a sonic game.
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>>323530374
Never speak again.
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>>323530440
Why?
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>>323530537
Whatever...
They looked ugly as shit...like they came from a Dreamworks Movie and I hate that style
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>>323530275
Dark Matter and it's various incarnations are often considered a fan favorite when it comes to Kirby antagonists, are still some of the more visually disturbing things in the series.

And Nightmare existed as early as Adventure. The only game with just Dedede is Dreamland. That's a very small portion of the series history.
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>>323530440
No human NPCs at least. I wouldn't mind finding Knuckles or somebody hanging out in a level (or hub or whatever) but no humans.
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>>323530696
Because they literally serve no purpose in a Sonic Game
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>>323530627
I'm sorry you are against decent ideas.
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>>323530783
Yeah that wouldn't be bad I guess
Any maybe Sonic's little animal friends(the ones he frees from the Badniks) could be NPC's too
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>>323530802
Do you want hub worlds with no life in them?
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I didn't mind the Unleashed NPCs at all. It was Chip that annoyed me.
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>>323530783
Fuck that. We don't need Sonic living in Furryvile. If the Loony Tunes can live with Humans with no problems, so can Sonic.
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>>323530480

I don't remember Sectonia being in the intro of Triple Deluxe.
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>>323530783
If the humans are mixed up with the anthropomorphic animals, and are also in the Sonic style, what's the problem?
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>>323530918
>Do you want hub worlds
No
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>>323530979
There shouldn't be a bunch of NPCs to begin with. If any show up they should be rare, and they should be one of the established characters. The only human should be Robotnik/Eggman.
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>>323530945
I blame the voice
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are we ever going to get a good super sonic ending battle again?

the last good one that felt like it properly ended the game was unleashed, where you fucked up eggman followed by destroying a dark god UNDER THE CRUST AND AT THE CORE OF THE EARTH

fucking hell the budget for unleashed mustve been insane
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>>323530480
Who gives a shit, they are almost always interesting fights.
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>>323531149
fuck super sonic ending battles, I just want super sonic to be a bonus for playing through regular stages
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>>323530480
Which Kirby game recently has even done that? Besides /maybe/ Rainbow Curse?

And if anything, Kirby villains have gotten less dark as time has gone on. Most of the recent examples you gave are colorful characters that don't even come off as dark or edgy (but more like final bosses which tend to look sort of villainous sometimes)
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>>323531102
You people just want Sonic games to have nothing. It's no wonder that the games are shit if you are what Sega listens to.
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>>323531102
Hub worlds =/= Sonic '06 hub worlds
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>>323530197
Episode II is the shinning example of a game being so painfully average in every way that I can't even muster up a fuck to give about it and barely remember anything of note beyond that one song no doubt created by someone stomping on ducks.
It is THE 5/10 game for me.

Episode I was at least so fucking terrible on all fronts that I felt an identifiable emotion playing it.
At least I can say that for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAM4px0sTu4
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>>323531071
See >>323531128
I'm against having a bunch of NPCs. Also I agree with >>323531102
No hub worlds. All of that shit is a waste of resources and the hub worlds have never done anything but bog Sonic games down.
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>>323530918
I dunno about that guy, but I don't want hub worlds. Worst party about Sonic Adventure and Sonic Unleashed, games that had a lot of strong points otherwise.
And if you gotta have them, have something small and simple like the early Crash Bandicoot Games or Wario World.
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>>323531149
>are we ever going to get a good super sonic ending battle again?the last good one that felt like it properly ended the game was unleashed, where you fucked up eggman followed by destroying a dark god UNDER THE CRUST AND AT THE CORE OF THE EARTH


Are you fucking kidding me?
That shit was done to death for years and years
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>>323531149
Not as long as those Happy Tree Friends writers are on the games
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>>323531128
>he only human should be Robotnik/Eggman.
Why?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFW2CHGTlH8

I'd rather know what big the cat is up to.
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>>323519062
I hope bestiality comes back this year in some form or another!! Sonic 06 part 2 maybe?
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>>323531206
>>323531297
Do you want another Egg-Nega Wisp copypasta battle like they've been doing with every game so far?
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>>323531206
Super Sonic just broke physics, replaced great stage music with repetitive and annoying invincibility music, made precision platforming retarded, and made already too easy games even easier.

It's shit as a bonus.

It also doesn't make much sense as a reward for getting emeralds or whatever in a modern game with saves and shit.
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>>323531337
Eggman should have a romantic relationship with Cream's mother.
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>>323531239
You're a fucking faggot
The games are shit because Sonic Team is shit
>>323531252
SA1's Station Square was fine but that's about it(hated Mystic Ruins...it was creepy and the forest part was confusing as fuck)

Either way it's unnecessary padding that serves no real purpose
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>>323531293
The hub in sonic adventure is useless but the ones in unleashed are very small and have useful npcs and side missions and stuff. They range from tiny (empire city, adabat, holoska, chun nan) to small (spagonia, shamar, apotos) and really helped you get into the world traveling theme of the game.
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>>323531319
When will those fuckers die as horrible a death as a happy tree friend?
The series needs this.
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>>323531206
I'd be okay with an ending battle if it was how Sonic 3 & Knuckles did it: Super (or in this case Hyper) Sonic is still playable normally but if you have him unlocked you get an additional "true" final boss.

>>323531239
I don't want the games to have superfluous bullshit. They need to focus on nailing the core gameplay and making sure the levels are well designed. We don't need some shitty hub world full of NPCs who contribute nothing to the game. It's not a fucking RPG.
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>>323531263
>>323531293
The hub worlds in SA1 are relatively small, filled with easily-recognizable landmarks so you never get lost, add to the game by having atmosphere and making the levels feel connected with an actual world, and are great for doing random spindashes off ramps and hills to get some extremely satisfying air.
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>>323531239
>WOW, YOU DON'T WANT FISHING OR HOT AND COLD TREASURE HUNTING? YOU BASICALLY WANT NOTHING IN SONIC AT ALL!
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>>323531406
Whatever they do it doesn't concern me
If the game isn't good in the first place(which it never is and will never be) I don't give a shit

If you ask me what I want for a Final Boss I would want a Classic Giant Death Egg Robot fight with no Wisp/Godzilla bullshit
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>>323522913
>>323523030
>>323523153
>>323523281
>>323524174
>>323529172
it's good but it's not as good as everybody says, especially iif you don't like one of the two play styles, and double especially if it's 2d, because the 3d levels have 2d sections for some fucking reason.
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>>323531728
I'm not that guy, but what the flying fuck do hub worlds have to do with shitty and gimped gameplay-styles?
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>>323531856
I'm criticizing the argument.
The "if you don't want stuff that doesn't have any place in Sonic, you must want absolutely nothing" bullshit.
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>>323531526
yeah I loved the world travelling theme of Sonic Unleashed. I'd be up for another game like that, imitating real world places. Strangely Sonic's never been to a Japanese type city yet, in any game I can think of.
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>>323520493
wtf is that on his chest?
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>>323531962
Define "doesn't have a place in Sonic".
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>>323532072
messed up shadow.
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>>323531962
But hub worlds in Sonic games are fine if they're done correctly like in SA1 and Unleashed.

>>323532007
Speed Highway has some Japanese-looking neon signs.
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>>323532007
Yeah i thought it was weird how china and south east asia got represented before japan...but i guess there was a small bias since its 2 asian countries. An Unleashed 2 with new continents or locations in established places (like a different major city in the united states, or germany or spain instead of italy for europe, have japan now etc) would be fucking perfect
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>>323523153
Nah. That game was great
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>>323532115
Things that make the game worse. Like, say, every hub world in the series. Yes even the shitty Unleashed ones.
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>>323532265
At the very least Unleashed had semblance of layout design for them compared to Adventure and 06. Some people just don't like it.
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>>323524481
are you 18 years old and grew up playing it or something? unleashed is trash, the good parts of it were ported into generations entirely
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>>323532212
I'm of the opinion that the hubs in Adventure were mediocre, the hubs in Unleashed were pretty good, and the hubs in both added absolutely nothing to the experience of playing a Sonic game.

By the same token, I wouldn't have enjoyed Big even if he had the most masterful, finely crafted fishing mechanics of any fishing game ever made.
The point isn't the quality of the content, but whether it belongs at all.
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>>323532265
But there is seriously nothing inoffensive about the unleashed hubs. Anyone who played it remember how tiny but dense and comfy they were. This is empire citys hub, its literally this big. A fountain in the middle in a park area with some food stands and tables on the side. Small things like this helped the atmosphere intensely and it wasnt just random open world garbage spewed out like in adventure and 06.
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>>323526859
describes adults playing video games
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>>323532367
I'll take Station Square over any of the Hub Worlds from Unleashed
That hub world was very comfy at least and it was more sonic-y in the sense that Sonic was vacationing there

Fuck Mystic Ruins though...that place gives me the creeps
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>>323530076
>>323530716
Same person every thread with the shit taste.
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Sonic Colors is the worst Sonic game of the games I played, I couldn't even finish it as I was too bored, but I did finish Sonic 06. Colors is junk.
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>>323532382
>>323524481
I'm 22 and I don't think Unleashed isn't terrible but its the best complete Sonic game we've gotten in years.

Sure its not Sonic 2 or 3 bullshit. But yeah its going to be 8 years since Unleashed and 10 since Sonic 06 ( I feel sorry for the people who liked that game) . So some people are gonna like that game.

>>323532595
Station Square the area with the worst cameras ever. Yeah alright.

>>323532536
I agree with this here. small and have you do something simple to reach the level and no bullshit fetching.
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>>323532673
As a matter of fact, it's the ONLY sonic game I ever returned to the store.
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>>323532673
BUT DOESN'T THE COLORS FEEL SO RIGHT?
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>>323532669
piss off
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