Will Overwatch be a success, thick rate-aside?
Heroes when?
>>323489017
bet its going to be popular and later raise tickrate so they can get csgo audience.
>Get's deleted like 4 times
>Censoring it
It's like you're Nintendo OP, don't take that shit be free with your expression!
Hope so, seemsfun. Not everything has to be competitive
>>323489017
>>323489358
>game's not even out
>tons of lewd already
why does Blizzard make such great female characters
>>323489358
If you can't play a game competitively or doubting ii's nature it's not a good sign.
If you gain wallhacks and autoaim it's hard to take you seriously.
>>323489690
didn't they just copy a character from an anime and alter her a bit ?
>>323489690
Well, Mei is basically justInuitInua
Wait, is it confirmed that it will actually have 20-tick servers?
>>323489213
LOW TEST BETA
>>323490124
You know why it's called high test retard? It's fat girls you'd never fuck normally, but would fuck when you're on roids because you're horny all the time
>>323489856
>InuitInua
Why the fuck am i attracted to her jesus christ
>>323490674
She's pretty in a boy-ish way (Excellent eyebrows), plus she comes across as being fairly nice (Though she comes across as being a bit smug at times(. I don't really have a crush on her like I know a few people here do, but I think she could makea good friend.
>>323489213
LOWTEST
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Who's making the best Overwatch smut at the moment?
>>323489213
>Low test
You don't belong here.
>>323489017
MOAR LEIK THICK RATE AMIRITE LMAO
Watching this thread for interest.
Played the entirety of beta and the only time I noticed bullshit was Pudge hooks around corners while playing Lucio with speed boost active.
I didn't notice anything else that I thought was due to low tic rate besides that though. Game is bretty good.
>>323489017
/v/ would take the high test meme and legit turn it into a fetish for fatties ahahah
>>323492518
The tickrate is about equivalent to 50 ms latency. So unless you can actively notice 0.05 second disparities, it's almost meaningless. YOu'll still have the odd Widowmaker killtrade, but it'l be quite the rarity, especially with tank heroes, shields, armor, etc.
I can't wait for the beta to come back
>>323489017
20TICKS
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Food serving hero when?
>>323492980
>The tickrate is about equivalent to 50 ms latency
that's not even close to what such a low tickrate means. do you even know what a tickrate is?
>>323489017
by going paid mode and with microtransaction too I guess is going to be a ok game, nothing great but not unpopular, like hots
>>323489017
>evolve
>titanfall
Oh boy where have i seen these kind of game before
>>323495256
That image is misleading, count 20 of those dudes and ask, is that one second of movement?
>>323491815
Who's that?
>>323495280
Blizzdrones just like up to get buttfucked nowadays dont they.
>>323495413
Don't both those games have little creep ai to farm?
I don't think it's going to be successful if by success you mean it's going to be more popular than TF2.
I think it's going to be an ok game with a small player base and Blizzard isn't going to lose money from it.
The game looks pretty fun. Definitely not competitive gaming material, but then again neither is TF2.
>>323495457
yes it is
what is the problem?
>>323495481
My mother.
>>323495725
Lying to prove a point?
Yes, I see, that's never a problem.
>>323495707
titan fall does. by the way its fun as fuck.
>>323489017
Someone explain why a 20 tick rate is bad.
I don't understand.
what the fuck is a tick rate?
That looks like a magic wand and I love me some magic wand action
but I'm not a fan of whales
>>323495930
what is so unbelievable of a character jumping and landing within a second while running?
>blizzdrones don't know what trick rates are
Can't say I'm surprised.
>>323489943
Nope, people are just freaking out because the beta servers are 20-tick
>>323491815
Sauce.
NAME.
>>323492980
>So unless you can actively notice 0.05 second disparities
You can't? You played a PS1 game on the PS3 with smoothing on, then turned it off? You should easily be able to feel the increase in responsiveness.
>>323495856
Kuramochi Yuka
>>323496090
how many times per second the server is upating information
so if the tick rate is low, like 20hz, and you're playing at 60fps, the game isn't even showing you accurate information 2/3 of the time.
if you find yourself shooting air or dying behind cover, that might have something to do with it
>be really into asses
>characters have great curves and butts
>first person perspective only
>>323496232
That should have about 20 people in that action of jumping and falling. Cut out the rest as they're unnecessary. As stated previously the time delay between each tick is 0.05 seconds, or in latency terms, 50 ms.
>>323496090
It's basically how fast the server recieves information. So if you shoot at a guy who's shooting at you, the lower the tick rate the higher the chance you both kill each other
>>323496087
>Because CS:GO has more :^)
>>323496317
>Gravure Idol
Why is this allowed?
>>323496296
That is the build of a 12 year old boy
Fuck out of here with that lowtest shit.
>>323496296
>he thinks you have to choose between the two
>>323496450
Lucky for you emotes are in 3rd person.
https://youtu.be/h272S7QGpFQ
>>323489017
BLESS YOU OP
BLESS YOU
>>323496535
Fuck off, #fatlivesmatter.
>>323496306
https://twitter.com/yukakuramoti?lang=en
>>323489690
Very few devs make pretty females any more. Despite what people may say, its not and never really has, been all that wide spread.
Except in fighting games.
>>323496485
Thing is there are perhaps 2 or 3 guns that do enough damage using hitscan rather than being a projectile that could even take advantage of that. ANd even of those, you'd have to be a squishy enough character to die to it, without having extra armor, shields, or be flying through the map with one of the crazy movement abilities.
>>323496485
>Because CS:GO has more :^)
No really.
I don't understand.
Is 20 actually bad or is this an over-reaction
>>323496535
What's wrong with 12 year old boys
>>323489017
It will be successful just because its a blizzard game, but it will be a shitty FPS, and a awful competitive game. Just like how Heroes is a shitty MOBA
>>323496782
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EwaW2iz4iA
yeah it is terrible for this kind of game
>>323496483
nobody said that image shows only one second
the point is that when the tickrate is that low you get "gaps" where you simply cannot hit someone
even if you had a 50 ms latency, with a higher tickrate you could still hit someone in those gaps which should never exist and only appear on low tickrate servers
>>323496782
Both. It's bad and it's massively blown out of proportion.
They should bump up the tickrate. I don't see why it's so low.
>>323496898
Those gaps should be far smaller than what's shown.
>>323489017
Sauce? Can't find it.
>>323496782
It's good when it's high but it's a massive overreaction anyway
>>323489017
>uhh why dont you go for a REAL woman??? you know? one with CURVES?
seriously fuck off with your fat worship bullshit. i dont understand how literally every facet of media for the last 50 years tells you that skinny is beautiful and yet you want to fuck fatties.
>>323496867
So is this only bad with people with shit connections and high ping?
>>323497030
>i ONLY do what the media tells me
>>323497030
>acknowledging that the idea of skinny being beautiful is the result of media with the intention of selling product yet still going along with it anyway
top sheep
>>323489017
What's happening to her in that picture? Why is she making that face?
>>323496782
i have never head about tick rate until people started shit posting about overwatch
i'm sure it isn't a huge problem
>>323497059
goddamitfuckeduptheorderimagokillmyself
>>323496535
CONFIMED FATTY/BETA LMAO
>>323496090
>>323496087
Online games send information at a a speed. This is the tickrate, measured in ticks per second.
typical tickrates for shooter games are usually something like 64. If it's a twitch realistic shooter with a lot of who shoots first wins, they usually go for 128.
20 is a joke, it's the speed of things that shouldn't even be action based, and because they are letting bullets of players kill each other if they hit at the "same time" it's going to be a casual mess.
basicly, people are going to die behind cover, you having good hard to hit movement is going to matter less(because your position is only updated 1/3 to 1/6th to other players as often as other games) and because of blizzards casual retard pandering, players are gonna be dropping dead at the same time in tons of firefights
>>323497030
Fuck off, false flag. The only thing media is saying is that skinny is ugly and fat is beautiful. They are wrong and the fat fetishists are a tiny minority.
They have been trying to force fat fetishes onto us for at least 25 years.
>>323497296
This dick is not feminine enough
>>323497296
>futa
>>323497238
>twitch realistic shooter
Yeah, so that's not this game, few heroes can kill or be killed that quickly.
>>323497296
>>323497136
nah fatty i like thin women because all the attractive women i've ever known and seen were thin.
>>323497356
i have never read a book or seen a movie where the protagonist was fat without it being a comedy about being fat
>>323496535
Just accept you're a chubbychaser you deviant.
>>323496782
kinda, but depends on a game and mechanics of it. For a game with a lot of hitscan weapons higher tickrate is more important, because otherwise it can lead to tradekills and general "behind of the corner" kills. The biggest argument of csgo faggots is that there are no other lag compensation methods than tickrate, which is false. CSGO also has bad lag compensation to begin with, which lies in the constraints of the source engine itself.
how to get into the beta?
Mercy best Widowmaker worst
>>323497514
>liking 3dpd
you don't belong here
>>323489017
Yes. Now can I have source...for research purposes?
>>323497863
>>323497238
>If it's a twitch realistic shooter with a lot of who shoots first wins, they usually go for 128
UT2004 was 20 tickrate and default q3 tickrate is 30. Hell even Quake Live is like 100. Only custom CSGO servers go to 128 tickrate to compensate for bad netcode.
>>323497296
>cut
>>323497940
only digging that hole deeper my reddit friend
>>323497816
You gotta suck my dick.
>>323497706
Terry was pretty good imo
>>323497816
It's not up yet, otherwise just open you b.net account settings and make sure the checkbox for overwatch beta is clicked.
>>323496410
so if i'm playing r6 on a boss pc and always dying behind cover and not seeing whats actually happening, is it because my fps is too high? would lowering my settings get me closer to the 'tick rate' and give me more accurate information?
>>323497863
how was i supposed to stay a wizard forever
>>323497428
You know how I know you're a fag?
Because if that SFM had been a faceless dude who's only purpose was to be the cock and balls in the shot you'd have liked that.
Fucking homos.
>>323497356
This as fuck
>game needs waifus to sell
And that's how I know it'll be trash. Appealing to your audience with sex fanservice is the biggest red flag that your game will suck.
>>323496485
>>323498249
people in r6 ALWAYS kill each other, like 2-3 times a game it happens
>>323498423
But the game is lots of fun.
>>323498457
Doesn't everyone die in a few shots in the game?
who's the lewdest Overwatch
>>323498516
>cinematic experience: Platinum Edition
Thank you for proving my point.
>>323498423
That's some false equivalence there. Appealing to your boner is easy, and doesn't mean they took anything away from any other aspect.
You're actually pro-censorship when you talk like that. Or are you some kind of stealth SJW?
>>323498423
>game happens to have female chars in it
>means it's waifu bait
>>323496974
me neither
>>323497940
Lurk the fuck more.
>>323498048
>games from 1999 and 2004 had similar/better tickrate
also
>ut
>quake
>games where who shoots first wins
no
>>323497238
Yea I died behind cover all the time in the alpha. Peek and launch a rocket at a Widowmaker, dive back into cover where clearly the only thing in front of my camera is a wall, boom dead.
post tracer
>>323498423
Game doesn't even have much 3rd person mode to stare at those asses, unless you really like Reinhardt's.
>>32349853
every gun is kinda like the m4 in csgo with less recoil, 3 shots to body, one to head kind of thing, but usually puts people down for revive. but yeah stupid how often people kill each other. also kill cams are completely different to wehat the person who dies is seeing every single time
>>323498685
>>323498718
>Appealing to your boner is easy, and doesn't mean they took anything away from any other aspect.
The time they spent modeling the jiggle physics and ass physics could've instead been put into a decent singleplayer, or a higher tickrate, or maybe the ability to use a non-crappy UI. But this is Blizzard, the same company that runs every franchise it owns into the ground, so I'm not surprised at this rather unimaginative game.
>>323497816
>>323498576
>Tits so big they get in the way of her arms
jesus christ my dick
>>323496973
Indeed, that's why want a tickrate higher than 20.
>>323498740
>>323498147
Nah fuck off, 3dpd whining faggots should really deactivate themselves.
>>323498867
>The time they spent modeling the jiggle physics and ass physics could've instead been put into a decent singleplayer,
Holy shit, you're stupid. The people modeling tits are not the same people who program netcode. They were going to hire an artist either way, dumbass.
Imagine a world in which people would just stop being Blizzdrones and refuse to play their shitty copy-pasted games, a man can dream right?
>>323498963
Lurk the fuck more
>>323498812
>post worst girl on the fucking planet with way too much porn
literally u right now
>>323498664
>crazy action beatemups are cinetmatic
Sure anon, maybe you should play them before spouting nonsense
>>323498983
>Holy shit, you're stupid. The people modeling tits are not the same people who program netcode.
Where did their money come from though? It all comes from the same company, and they have a set budget for the game. maybe if they used simpler models that didn't require millions of hours to get LE HIGHER POLYGON COUNT XD, then perhaps that money could've been spent on improving gameplay, which is sorely lacking.
>>323497182
>I've never actually played a competitive shooter, but let me spout my opinions anyway.
Go back to whatever shit card game of MMO you were playing blizzdrone.
So why are other game devs so afraid of Overwatch they have to shit up /v/?
>>323498984
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP ENJOYING THIIIIIIINGS!
Can we all agree. You go too skinny and you get a bag of bones like Miss Spooky Scary, you go too thick and you get hamplanets. There is a pretty wide gap between the two and it's ok if you like everything between there.
>>323499208
Si us this a confirmation you're working for Blizzard?
>>323499039
Lurk where? /s/, one of the longest running boards on here?
>>323499208
For the same reason Dotards attack other MOBAs at every opportunity
>>323499171
>modelers and animators are writers, scripters, coders, and voice actors
>>323499171
They were going to pay an artist to model the characters no matter how you restructure their team in your mind. Do you know how easy it is to add jiggle physics? No of course not, you're a fuckin idiot who thinks it's interchangeable with an entire single player campaign.
>>323499308
Lurk the fuck more
>>323489017
>thick rate
Le fat acceptance movement
>>323497296
Always gotta love the internet for making porn so fast of things.
>>323499090
>crazy action beatemups are cinetmatic
But we're talking about Bayonetta, not an actual video game.
Pic related.
>>323499190
keep spouting memes i'm sure it will make what you're saying sound true
>>323499424
Epin
>>323499649
>ironic shitposting
Kill yourself
>>323499396
>>323499415
>They were going to pay an artist to model the characters no matter how you restructure their team in your mind
That's the problem then. They should've never hired an artist. Give the game a more simplistic look, stop focusing on graphics. Make them boxes shooting at eachother, and I guarantee you that it would be better than this fanservice garbage they keep trying to push. At the very least I'd know the gameplay was getting more focus.
>>323499713
>edgy shitposting
>>>/reddit/
>>323499781
>games should look like shit
>>323499808
You're not going to fit in by shouting "reddit"
>>323489017
I want to believe.
I'm already on board, don't leave me hanging /v/ros. This sub is all I've got.I felt dirty typing that. I'm sorry. Just get Overwatch, ok?
>>323499847
I'll take that over them playing like shit. Gameplay is kind of more important than graphics, you know?
POST
SFMS
>>323499995
Good thing Overwatch has good gameplay, then
>>323499781
A triple-A game is going to have good graphics. It's expected. Regardless of if it includes "fanservice" or not.
So are we getting the sauce to that Mei pic?
>>323499995
Ok, I'll have fun while playing something that looks great while you play minecraft.
>>323499878
>muh sekrit club
>>323499627
So you're going to completely disregard the actual gameplay?
>>323500213
Lurk more
>>323499627
>games with long cutscenes can't possible be good
A meme to surpass Metal Gear.
You know I hate to be that guy but this game's gonna attract the entire shiteating LoL/Dota/TF2/HS/Twitch/Reddit/Tumblr crowd, there's no fucking way I can get hyped for that
>>323500280
>$2 per tickrate
>>323500074
>A triple-A game is going to have good graphics.
And that's why they usually all have bad gameplay. They focus on pretty graphics and watering down the gameplay so you can admire their predetermined set pieces.
>>323500052
>>323500209
>>323500238
Good gameplay doesn't exist when the game's primary focus is just fanservice. That goes for Bayonetta and Overwatch. A good game does not allow fanservice anywhere near it, and can hold up on gameplay alone.
>>323500345
>Metal Gear
ANOTHER example of a movie. Thank you for again proving my point.
>>323500354
How, those people have no money.
>>323497296
What was the source of this again?
>>323500409
>usually
Why are you evaluating it on "usually?" The beta is out. Stop judging it on statistics and judge it for what it is.
i will fuck InuitInua
>>323489017
>tfw too slow to get flustered over the tick rate
This is the best game for old men, girl gamers, and anyone who isn't a twitchy CS:GO player.
It's hardcore casual.
It's going to be stupid popular and you genuinely hardcore fags won't be able to enjoy it.
>>323500409
You're making assumptions about things you've never played
>>323500409
>Good gameplay doesn't exist when the game's primary focus is just fanservice.
That Roadhog is so hot, you must want his big sweaty belly to be rubbed all over you.
Looks fun
>tickrate
>game without you tryhard faggots
Looks even more fun.
>not F2P
>no BRs and poorfags
Looks like i found an amazing game to have fun in.
>>323500409
>Good gameplay doesn't exist when the game's primary focus is just fanservice.
Good gameplay is the highest form of fanservice
>>323500475
They will make an exception and buy a game because it's from Blizzard.
>UT 04 had 20 Tick
>Played fine
>Most modern Esport Games have 15-20 Tick
>Play fine
>This one game is 20 tick
>/v/ throws a shit fit
I can't wait for them to announce it is gonna be 60 tick instead. The shitposting will be so real. Remember all the threads about it being P2P with P2W? Then they busted that meme? I cannot wait.
Also reminder: The difference between 20 Tick and 60 Tick is .0004 Seconds. Very much needed for competitive lmao
Isn't 20 tick rate essentially like playing at 20fps? Where's the source on this info anyway?
>>323500354
>gonna attract the entire shiteating LoL/Dota/TF2/HS crowd
Good luck. Not sure about Twitch/Reddit/Tumblr though.
>>323498274
Yes, because you're projecting yourself as the guy with the dick in porn. That's why when people watch a futa fuck a girl, they feel uncomfortable because they're projecting themselves as a hermaphrodite.
When the fuck are they going to reopen the beta?
>>323500409
>Metal Gear
>bad gameplay
Shit, I should have read the thread. I always take this weak ass bait.
>>323500475
No, that's /v/irgins. Those are the people who drop $600 on virtual hats, skins, etc. Meanwhile the people here won't drop more than 350 of their free government autismbux on VR.
>>323497182
Fuck off shillposter.
>>323500657
>trying to be good is bad
>telling people that they're trying to be good is an insult
20 tick rate is dis shit RS?
>>323500541
>Stop judging it on statistics and judge it for what it is.
Gladly. This is what I've analyzed so far.
>ultimates either are broken or completely useless, throws off the balance of the game
>half the characters have no proper role and are just variations of the same damage dealer
>there's not enough maps or gameplay modes, especially for a 2016 release. It makes launch date Splatoon look like Unreal Tournament after years of mods
>20 ticks means that most shots will usuall be sporadic and you'll never get proper accuracy if you even have the slightest bit of lag
>UI is ugly and uncustomizable, with poor draw distance and depth perception
>40 dollar game with no singleplayer, and guaranteed microtransactions ala the blizzard special for every single one of their games (b-but they said they wouldn't THIS time even though every single current game of theirs has them! it'll be different this time!)
>no customizable loadouts means that he characters only have 1 useful weapon and a junk weapon that's not even good as a backup
Need I continue?
>>323500740
None of the games you listed are by Blizzard. Why would they make an exception?
>>323500657
A game without tryhards, it's something we'll never get.
>>323500912
Not fucking soon enough
The other day I was jonesing for OW so badly that I actually played TF2 to get my fix
>>323500657
This. This entire post.
I can't wait to be away from the tryhards and BRs of the world and actually having fun for once.
The beta was excellent, can't wait for the game to release.
>>323498664
>>323499627
>Point and click bullshit that play themselves are the real games
It will be trash and it will die fast like Heroes of the storm.
>>323496782
it's actually that bad, here's some numbers to compare
gears of war and call of duty have 30 tick rate
halo and pub cs:go have 60 tickrate
quake live and private cs:go servers have 125
as you can see there is pretty much a 1:1 correlation between casual babby shit and tickrate, therefore overwatch is mathematically worse than cod
>>323500657
>game without you tryhard faggots
The downside is it doesn't seem very pubfriendly. It's built like a tourneygame. No 24/7 anything maps.
>>323500952
>>323500658
>>323500651
>>323500629
>>323501129
see>>323500998
None of this would plague the game if blizzard was more competent and allocated their funds responsibly, instead of jiggle physics and overpriced VAs everywhere.
>hey, who cares about the terrible matchmaking system? Gotta give Tara Strong and Nolan North their several billion dollar paychecks!
>>323500776
there is literally no excuse for having bad tickrate.
Insurgency, a great shooter you can get for 2 bucks, has tickrate of 128.
>>323500979
The concept of trying your hardest and improving to an exceptional level isn't whats bad, i don't mind getting raped to death by a truly good player. Its the Tryhard mentality, the faggot who HAS to be top rank in every match or else he throws a fit, attacks others and makes excuses. Guess tryhard might not be the right word for it but its faggots who also complain that things aren't absolutely fair down to the smallest element. Those who complain about something like a tick rate are probably those faggots looking to expand their ego. I probably won't notice it much and it will probably be a small inconvenience.
>>323501387
Blizzard wants to save money because they know overwatch is gonna flop.
>>323501387
It's an artistic choice anon
>>323501439
>Its the Tryhard mentality, the faggot who HAS to be top rank in every match or else he throws a fit, attacks others and makes excuses.
But anon, those are the people who pay for their games. If you want casual gameplay with people who aren't tryhard, your game should be F2P.
>>323501285
What the Fuck did the VAs have anything to do with this conversation, or making the actual fucking game faggot?
Also doesn't address the people laughing at you for whining about shit you don't play and enjoying autoplaying clicker bullshit.
>ults are too powerful
But I thought you Dota players liked having big, game-changing ults?
>>323501572
>implying Dota 2 isn't chock full of tryhard faggots who will ignore every single one of their mistakes and blame everything on their teammates
>>323501572
You're forgetting a variable. This is a blizzard game. There are going to be lots of terrible blizzdrones to fill the gap where the F2P element would increase the normie population.
>>323499627
You are a fucking retard.
>>323500998
>ultimates either are broken or completely useless, throws off the balance of the game
Yeah, the ultimates are really the only important part of the characters. There are no characters in other games featuring ultimates that are not entirely dependent on them, or even don't have them at all.
>half the characters have no proper role and are just variations of the same damage dealer
Their role is then to run around doing damage. This is a game where you kill each other, it is their role to do so in whatever fashion their characters does the do.
>there's not enough maps or gameplay modes, especially for a 2016 release. It makes launch date Splatoon look like Unreal Tournament after years of mods
I agree.
>20 ticks means that most shots will usuall be sporadic and you'll never get proper accuracy if you even have the slightest bit of lag
>UI is ugly and uncustomizable, with poor draw distance and depth perception
>40 dollar game with no singleplayer, and guaranteed microtransactions ala the blizzard special for every single one of their games (b-but they said they wouldn't THIS time even though every single current game of theirs has them! it'll be different this time!)
Do you have any idea what you're talking about here?
>no customizable loadouts means that he characters only have 1 useful weapon and a junk weapon that's not even good as a backup
Star Wars Battlefront (2004) and Star Wars Battlefront II pulled this off well enough.
>>323501195
>tfw when even Splatoon has a 60tickrate.
Even the babbygames have better than 20 tickrate these days.
This is WORSE THAN SPLATOON.
>fps with unlimited ammo
>>323501628
The point is allocation of resources
Instead of pay the voice actors $100k or whatever ungodly sum they get, they could pay them $90k and use that extra $10k to beef the game's servers up to 60 tickrate
>Overwatch thread where fags discuss thie shitty game and not just dump porn
Should be bannable to make threads like this
>>323501852
>rapper with unlimited rhymes
>>323501727
>implying Dota 2 isn't chock full of tryhard faggots
Nah, DOTA is full of casuals. LOL is the tryhard moba.
>>323500998
>ultimates either are broken or completely useless, throws off the balance of the game
Oh? Name some. Don't give me hearsay. What ultimates are broken from someone who did more than glance over them?
>half the characters have no proper role and are just variations of the same damage dealer
Oh no, options! Variety is the enemy of replayability!
>>there's not enough maps or gameplay modes
Granted. We'll see if they support this or at the very least, encourage modding.
>UI is ugly and uncustomizable
Opinions. Why do you want to customize it? It isn't WOW.
>40 dollar game with no singleplayer
Dividing attentions to singleplayer in a game like this is always bad. They always take money out of the Multiplayer aspect, and 90% of people won't touch it anyways.
>and guaranteed microtransactions ala the blizzard special for every single one of their games
Characters are free and always will be. If you contest this, show me when they said something to this effect and lied in the past. If they sell cosmetics, I don't give a shit.
>no customizable loadouts means that he characters only have 1 useful weapon and a junk weapon that's not even good as a backup
Not out the gate, but it remains to be seen. TF2 didn't have customizable loadouts at launch either, you know. The ability to change characters at will is a suitable replacement though. Since there's way more classes than in a game like TF2.
>>323501989
>dota
>casual
>>323489017
link to original
>>323501285
>instead of jiggle physics and overpriced VAs everywhere.
Uhh, voice actors are payed at set union rates. Do you not know what equity is?
Also I'm pretty sure Strong and North are not in Overwatch and the VAs that are arent "big" names
>>323501852
Ammo's pretty much a non issue for most fps anyways. I can't really remember the last fps I played that didn't make it an absolute breeze to get more ammunition. The only hard numbers one should worry about in an online FPS is DPS and Health.
>>323502045
Well, it is a MOBA. Casual by definition.
>>323502148
Holding choke points as demoman or soldier in TF2?
>>323501794
>This is a game where you kill each other, it is their role to do so in whatever fashion their characters does the do.
And yet they barely have variation. Half of them are glorified "run around and shoot stuff fast" players, while others are generic "sit still and be a turret" players. The lack of variation doesn't justify a completely new character for each one.
>Star Wars Battlefront (2004) and Star Wars Battlefront II pulled this off well enough.
Yeah, because they were made by a competent company who couldn't rely on boobs and jiggle physics. You can't add a breastplate to a stormtrooper or a CIS droid. Gameplay and execution was all they had. Blizzard doesn't need that if they put in waifus.
>>323502179
Dota isn't a MOBA though. You're thinking of league of legends.
>>323502031
>Why do you want to customize it?
I agree with most of your points, but you should always be allowed to customize UI, it's the shit you have to stare at all the time
No idea but I know i had fun playing it when I got into the weekend stress test.
>>323502206
Snag your ammo off the dead or just zip somewhere for an ammo box. If you have to hold a choke point alone for so long that you can't even do those things, you have a shit team and you're dead in the water anyway.
>>323502304
Dota players are seriously sad at arguing
>>323502321
That's fair. I've just never cared enough to do it myself.
>>323499781
I know you're baiting but I'd be willing to bet someone on /v/ would actually agree with this.
>>323489017
lets get a rundown of popular overwatch anti shill memes
>20 tick
quake 3 was 20tick
>costs money
csgo and tf2 did
>microtransactions
skins, btw tf2 literally lets you buy your way into guns. irrelevant whether theyre better or not
>waifushit
? based SFM models
>>323501907
idk man the concept of having a very good fps with very good fanservice and very good fan generated porn is attractive. it just seems people are setting the "overwatch will be a good game guys, enjoy" in this thread
>>323502304
>Dota isn't a MOBA though
whats with all the kiddies and facebook normies out in full force tonight?
>>323502243
>Gameplay and execution was all they had.
But the gameplay and execution in Battlefront is atrocious
>>323502418
>costs money is a negative
I want brussians to leave
>>323502404
And you're a fag that browses /v/ all day and prolly likes nintendo.
Kill yourself nigger
>>323502418
BUT ITS MADE BY BLIZZARD! THE 4CHAN GUIDE I READ ON REDDIT SAYS IM SUPPOSED TO HATE BLIZZARD
>>323502562
>paying for 20 tick shooters
>giving money to blizzard
You're a horrible person.
>>323502562
They have to, since it costs money.
>>323502418
HI CONTRARIAN WEEBSHITPOSTER
>quake 3
1999 you nigger, this is 2016
>costs money
if there's f2p/cash shop shit in it, it better be f2p, not a hybrid of both, you cant have your cake and eat it. i dont mind if it costs money at all; i actually like that idea (like tf2/etc, gets rid of the underage/third world)
>microtransactions
see above, it should not be a double dip, which Blizzard does, fuck you drone for defending this garbage, and tf2 is shit by now, m8, its been dead since 2012
>waifushit
cant defend it except fags like you abuse waifuposting and give us a bad name
tl;dr fuck off
>>323502031
>Oh? Name some.
Hanzo's Dragonstrike for one, which has a very misleading hitbox, so you can be one shot from around the corner by something you didn't even see. How about McCree, who basically gets auto-aim? Pharah's barrage also has a broken hitbox, meaning you can't gauge how close you are to the attacks. I could easily name more if you want.
>Oh no, options! Variety is the enemy of replayability!
If they actually played any different and weren't just glorified reskins of eachother, this wouldn't be a problem.
>Opinions. Why do you want to customize it? It isn't WOW.
Because I'm gonna be looking at it the whole game. If I don't like it, can't I at least get rid of it? This is a basic option for an FPS.
>Dividing attentions to singleplayer in a game like this is always bad.
Then maybe they shouldn't make the multiplayer if they can't multitask properly. We have enough multiplayer games without singleplayer, and singleplayer games are sorely neglected.
>If you contest this, show me when they said something to this effect and lied in the past.
Starcraft 2. They claim that it'll only be 3 installments. Come Legacy of the void, they chop it into 2 pieces and sell the nova missions seperately.
>TF2 didn't have customizable loadouts at launch either,
Yes, and launch TF2 was a complete garbage trainwreck. your point?
http://strawpoll.me/6506922
>>323502689
The game itself is irrelevant
>wanting the f2p crowd in anything
Brussians pls go
>>323502418
>>20 tick
>quake 3 was 20tick
>Posting lies on the internet
Id servers for Q3 at retail launch (1999) were all 60tick.
Some low-tick servers existed for those on dialup back then (which was still really prevalent)
60tick is standard, 120tick is what comps use, the higher the tickrate the better. (but obviously the more bandwidth you'll use)
>>323502418
Yeah, I pay 40 dollars for this shit game and i have to pay more money if I see a hero skin i like.
No thanks.
>>323502732
Hello there mad BR.
>futa SFM Overwatch porn
My life finally has meaning.
>>323502823
>i have to pay more money if I see a hero skin i like
Sad desu.
>>323502068
>Uhh, voice actors are payed at set union rates
Then hire cheaper ones who aren't part of the union, or don't have VAs at all. Who said video games needed expensive, unnecessary voice actors?
I really don't see any problem with this game.
My biggest concern is the 20 tick, which seems really bad in theory, but what I did play of the game it was very smooth and worked out in practice.
>>323502816
You act like there's something wrong with being russian when shitposters come in all races.
Like you :^)
>>323502823
Would you prefer no skins at all?
>>323502921
But I'm australian m8
You can't outshitpost me
>>323502942
Yes, but this is blizzard. They want to make even more money after the initial 40 dollars.
They're probably gonna release map packs too.
>>323502916
I don't know why companies don't just hire bozos.
Use the NEETs you're selling to to make your game.
>>323502732
>1999 you nigger, this is 2016
CS1.6 had a higher tickrate in the same year, dumbass.
>>323502732
alright i see you started playing videogames last year let me tell you why youre wrong on everything
>1999 you nigger, this is 2016
irrelevant, ticks have nothing to do with how competitive a shooter is, interpolation and lag compensation is what make the game competitive
>if there's f2p/cash shop shit in it, it better be f2p, not a hybrid of both, you cant have your cake and eat it. i dont mind if it costs money at all; i actually like that idea (like tf2/etc, gets rid of the underage/third world)
dota 2 would prove you otherwise but my point was the payment model is the best of both worlds. the shop consists mainly of cosmetics but you avoided that because it wouldnt fit your narrative
>cant defend it except fags like you abuse waifuposting and give us a bad name
negative press is still press, if you werent 16 youd understand this marketing concept that rules the world.
>>323502817
nice source
>>323502823
publishers should give me everything for free
>>323503045
All future maps will be free
The only thing they're charging for is heroes, maybe sprays I could see too, but anything that actually has an impact on gameplay will be free
