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HONK
I'm somehow addicted to the Ganglion Skell battle theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvqlfTGywwM
>>323398703
>>323399091
>vocals
>autotuned vocals
>first time hearing this
>think my Wii U is chewing up my disk
>>323399483
that's pretty funny
>>323398703
After clocking in 50 hours, I finally got a Skell. It's pretty neat, but the transformation could control a little better.
>>323399091
Yeah, that song is fucking rocking.
Most of the music in this game is top tier. Fags can suck it.
>Sidequest
>Transmission from Bates under attack
>Make me choose a direction so he can retreat from Cauldros.
>West or South
>I figure Sylvalum is swarming with Ganglion but at least West he can escape through the sea.
>I choosewest
>He dies
Fucking hell. I was doing so well in missions with life or death situations.
I CANT FIND FUCKING AURORAN BONES FOR THE LIFE OF ME
>>323399652
Light skells wobble like shit, get an Amdusias as soon as possible for tighter controls.
>>323399652
>medium/heavy skells can't turn for shit
>light skells can't go straight
It's just one of the game's weird quirks, like how you can land a melee attack through a wall 30 feet away from the guy you're fighting.
Do you get quest lockouts and points of no return in this game like you did in the previous game?
>>323399782Sending him South would have had him reach the Cauldros Nopon Caravan and take refuge there.
>>323399932
>>323399960
Alright, will do. Can I transfer my gear from my old Skell to the new one or do I have to buy all new shit?
>>323399969
No, all quests that would lock out for story reasonslike Lao's affinity questsare made mandatory to complete before starting a new story chapter.
>tfw played for 90 hours and at level 35 but want to start a new character for wasting so much BP on shitty skills from boring classes.
>>323400106
You can swap equipment but I don't know if you can flat-out unequip items so you might need to buy new gear to swap into its place.
>>323399091
Most of my battles in a skell against the ganglion don't last longer than 10 secs, So I've never heard the full version.
>>323399782
here is where you sent him, no kidding the west from where he say he is goes straight to Phosphorous Lake
>>323400106
>>323400227
You can remove equipment from your Skell and leave it bare, that's what I would do before I sold any frames I didn't need.
>>323400227
Press X on the gear screen and click unequiped all
>>323400404
Well shit, thanks.
>>323399969
no, but you get bad endings thos. or a quest can end sooner so you waste chances to increase affinity
>Wroth fight suddenly kicking my ass
help
>>323400542
getting the kitties to the city also involves getting your ass handled to you by delicious cat
>>323400542
focus on kill em 1 by one. starting for the scrubs, kill 1, die, return. the fire cat and finally Leono
>>323399782
Seriously fuck those side quest.That water treatment plant is a danger to everyone
Is blossom dance the only thing that negates resistances? You can't even use augments to replicate its damage because resist down doesn't stack.
I love the Nopon in this game. In any other game they would be the cute mascot characters, but instead most missions involving them are all about how they're huge dicks. Like, all the other Xenos tend to get along within their own race, while the Nopon are fighting, backstabbing, and even faking pregnancies and committing adultery.
Why does everyone have a fan fic they are writing?!
>>323401087
I see you went for the santa hats too, a man of taste.
>>323401059
Skells Zenit canon
Is there a google doc for weapon drops?
Looking for high level ether sabers and ray guns.
>>323401065
Not to mention, drug trade.
>>323400910
dont shower
>>323401210
Why is his family so much better than Tasu? Hell what makes me mad is that it seem Takahashi wants the Nopon as his version of Moogles. But Tasu just makes everyone just groan when him and Lin talk to each other.
>>323401389
SeriouslyAlso the female Ma Non
That place needs to be closed down forever.
Is there any way to store items in this game? Kind of sick of having all these Limited Tank Tops in my inventory but I don't wanna sell all this fashionable stuff.
>594x437
is that the original resolution?
>>323400723
speaking of which that not-Celica expy is not a Wroth? She sure looks like one
>>323401581
I unironically love the banter between Lin and Tatsu
>>323401638
>Is there any way to store items in this game?
nope
>>323401638
Nope, sorry, you'll have to deal with your collection of over 500 thousand tank tops or learn to depart yourself from it forever. I'd say only keep the upmost tier of tank tops you currently have (Supreme, Ultra, etc.) and sell the rest.
>>323399960
anything can turn immediately in any direction you want, if you just double click the left stick to transform in and out and hold the direction you want to go
>>323401581
The Orpheons need the plant to sustain life, which puts them in a bad spot if something happens to it.
>>323401748
I don't 100% hate it but them beating you over the head over Lin jokingly wanting to cook Tasu gets old fast. Even in take a long time between story missions. There are a few funny lines here and there but it's a bit of a mess for the most part.
>>323401065
In the fireworks quest, is there a diff if you bring the Cauldros Nopon caravan chief or that other nopon
>>323401748
Its weird because I can almost tolerate him when he's talking to literally anyone else, but when he's with Lin I just want to burn him alive.
Have you made your prayers to the Bringer of Miracles today, /v/?
>>323401893
i LIKE HowMurderesss handle the rogue Orphen on her affinity quest
So we got Nopon, Ma-non and Orphe in BLADE, are there Prone and that pollution alien?
>>323402004
Yes, bringing the wrong person will make the fireworks not go off properly and you have to gather more materials.
Get someone who knows how to work it properly.
>>323401893
The Orpheon's demand our most luxurious items after developing that light armour
praise the Ovah
>>323402004
I don't know the difference, but I told the Caravan Chief to go to his gramps, and the girl Nopon seemed the prefer that outcome. I wasn't going to send her to the old pervert when she's the better leader.
>>323402187
>oh man am I actually going to have to fight this asshOh never mind
I dont really like her, but I liked that. He was talking all kinds of shit that he couldnt hope to back up and deserved that and more.
Can you romance anyone in this game?
>>323402605
onlyMurderess
I beat the game about a week ago. I enjoyed the story, but the ending was a little open for my taste. Here's my crazy-ass take on how it should have gone:
END-GAME SPOILERS"It's something about this planet!" Elma says. A familiar voice is heard, saying "You are correct, as always." Elma appears surprised, turns and says, "Who are you?!" Camera pans, revealing Alvis from XC1. Alvis says, "Sorry for the inconvenience, but I needed the Homs race to be self-sustaining, so I transferred their consciences to the core of the planet. There's a virus in the universe, I don't have much longer." Elma says, "What are you talking about? Did you destroy the Lifehold database?" Alvis continues, "I had to accelerate my plans. I have already chosen one of the Homs to reign once more. The time of gods is returning." Alvis then glitches out of existence, leaving a confused Elma standing alone.
Cut to Cross embarking on a mission with Lin, traveling along the cliffs on the edge of Primordia. After a brief conversation, Lin shouts, "Hey, what is that!" Cross narrows his/her eyes, and the camera cuts to a scene eerily similar to pic related. Roll credits.
>>323402308
>>323402897
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME
>>323402897
just to be clear, this is fake and this anon is stupid as fuck. go to reddit to make fan fic
>>323402868
I don't like her though. In fact, personalities aside a lot of the females in this game aren't that cute except for human Elma especially with those white rimmed glasses on her.
How's the enemy variety in this game?
So I beat the game recently, and while I do plan to dig into the side content a bit more, do they ever explainwhat a Telethia is doing on the planet?
>>323403201
no. but he/she is not the top of the food chain in the world anyway
>>323402605
Almost
>>323403109
>just to be clear, this is fake
Thanks anon, couldn't have done it without you
>>323403481
What would be?
>>323403909
>What would be?
>he dont have the flying pack
>he has not fly into the giant sphere in sylvalum
I pity you
is there any way to tell which missions are actually for my level?
I've seen one star shit thats double my level.
Are any of the superweapons actually worth it? The flame buster and metal face's claws are fun, but they eat up so much fuel
>>323404025
Is Pharsis really stronger than big T?
>>323404131
encyclopedia wise. yes, also cause the faggot hunts for fun. hell Telethia is a bro that dont even aggro unless you attack it
>>323404131
it has less health and is at a lower level, probably has less other stats too
but I don't think telethia has as many big nukes such as dark ray and supernova
he might just be saying how yggralith zero is stronger than telethia plume, or how yggraliths eat ether though
>>323402605
>>323403602
>that one heart to heart withH.B.where depending on your choices he gets hesitantly flustered at the thought of people mistaking you two for a couple
>>323404027
Keep star size in mind. Big stars are worth 6 small stars.
So I just encountered Tatsu. Do Nopons end up setting up shop in New LA?
>>323404503
Yep. Literally, too, there's a Nopon arms terminal you unlock later in the story.
>>323404503
They open up a fried chicken place in the residential district
This fucker's gonna attack me again isnt it
Explain Pizza sidestory to me because I missed it
>>323404671
no.. .but mission mandates you kill him...and then you have to kill it again out of mission if you want to get the 100% MIRA
>>323404590
Does the Nopon AM actually give you any gear for funding them, or am I just wasting my Miranium?
>>323404959
Yeah, it gives you about as much gear as any other AM, including some pretty cool-looking knifes and shields
>>323404959
they dont give gear, given em miraniums only makes em up out new gear and then upgrade.
>>323404894
Now, in the mission thing, does it legit mean for me to kill him or is it going to shorten the fight like in L's quest
>>323404959
They give half decent thermal weapons. Its worth it if you're working with something like shields or longswords, and I think they're the cheapest company to max out too
>>323405102
>makes em up out new gear and then upgrade
That's what I meant
>>323405108
L's quest recquire you take 5% off its health bar, the Orphe mission requires you actually beat it (but it's optional).
Ice cream cake
>>323405342
>>323405157
ever arms man only make armors on lvl 2 and 3, lvl 4 and 5 they just make better version.
I love this game to death, but man the sidequest stories are fucking trash. All the aliens are lame as fuck, with shit designs (except for the Wrothian and Nopon, but then they just straight up dont fit in), and half the god damn missions have you doing something with one of these retards.
>>323405294
Sounds like I'd get some good lore out of it so I'll put this quest on the backburner until I can beat him. I have a feeling a 60 Dragoon Lance would probably fuck it up or at least be useful but I dont know where the blueprint is.
>>323405342
>>323402542
>"The Orphe don't fight. I, however, am not like the other—"
>Murderess caps in him in the knee
>"OW YOU BITCH WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?"
I actually laughed.
>Chapter 12
>My 4 lvl 30 Skells wrecked
>Don't want to grind
>Don't even know how to use Overdrive efficiently
>Try to arrange some skills to do lots of damage and build some TP
>Wreck the whole chapter like that
>mfw
>>323405654
Same boat only I haven't figured anything out
>>323405342
I was disturbed at first but then I remembered deaths have no consequences because fucking mims, they shouldn't have gone with mims and just had everyone be in their normal bodies.
>>323405654
>lvl 30 Skells wrecked
you deserve that
>>323405654
>>Don't want to grind
you have to. you need at least 2 lvl 50 skells if you dont want to cry once you enter the life hold causeMid boss has 2 phases that reset his HP an last boss spawn minions.
also once you enter the life hold you cant exit it till you beat em. even if you die. you start in the LH again
>>323405786
Beat the game anon.
>>323405973
>you need at least 2 lvl 50 skells
how shit are you? I had one level 50 wels and the AI either on foot or in my old level 30 wels. And I still did every fight but the chimeras and the first phase of the last fight on foot
I'm somewhat new to this game and have a question. Does anyone know if the Ma-non company puts out electricity photon sabers or do I have to get one some other way?
>>323406082
I said no suffer.
>>323405973
You ALWAYS save before a character asks you if you're sure to continue to the final boss an any rpg
I'm still shocked that Nintendo had such a shitty year but still put out some of the best games of the year (Splatoon, X, and Mario Maker).
I really hope Takahashi keeps up the open world stuff. I thought I hated open world games but X proved that it was just westerns that fucking sucked at it.
>>323406445
you will be amazed how many anons did not
>>323405973
Sorry anon, but I think I didn't explain myself correctly. I finished the chapter on foot using overdrive.
So i can make myself a draw. OPENING-DMG XX.
But im thinking since i also already found th Draw.OPENING-DMG XVIIII maybe instead i should make MYSLEF 2 Draw.OPENING-DMG XV instead and just stack the three together instead.
Anyone got any thought on this? Or should i just grins out anothe XX one instead?
>>323406445
You can't save in there anyway. if you lose hours of progress thats on you.
>>323405786
>but then I remembered deaths have no consequences because fucking mimsFinish the story
Lets make a list of things we hope gets changed if Monolith continues with X
Affinity Quest doesn't lock you in
>>323406764
AUDIO
OPTIONS
Also an option to turn headgear off ONLY IN CUTSCENES.
>>323406764
Interaction between party members
>>323399920
Beasts den, north of NLA, near it's center.
Where the fuck is Yardley? I just beat the game with 88 hours and I still can't find the guy.
>>323406764
how about don't fucking gut the plot halfway through your dev cycle and leave the remnants scattered randomly throughout the world with zero relevance
also the chucklefuck that thought that needing to go to each individual character to add them to your party was a good idea should be fucking euthanized
>>323406764
Something to spice up the combat a little bit. I'd probably say make auto-attack weaker but you can do a basic attack relative to auto-attacking whenever you press a button. And the ability to manually dodge attacks would be cool with like rolling or diving (besides arts)
>>323406857
>Music plays over people talking
Seriously fuck that. I actually love the music but man did that fuck up those scenes.
>>323406764
Audio options
better invertori management system
being able to filter shop by Arm Manufacturers
using the game pad to FORCE party member to use arts (basically) you see their arts on the GP and rather than press A you tap on em for em to use it)
>>323405654
I am using a build based off of Mastermind, here is how I Overdrive:
>Arts:
Repair
Smooth Recovery
>Skills:
Secondary Acceleration
With three minimum team members alive, enter Overdrive with Smooth Recovery and Repair's second bars filled. Start with Repair to give Smooth Recovery time for the tertiary cooldown, then use it twice, but not thrice. Comboing out of repair, it'll get a double count bonus and give 6-8 to the counter. Repair twice, smooth recovery twice, and keep that up until around 40, where Repair will keep the timer about at a standstill and Smooth Recovery will add tons to it. From then on, Overdrive's duration should be easily maxed out. Having secondary cooldown reducers on armour makes the window of opportunity for artsing a little more lenient.
If I need to refill my TP, I'll do Gravity Blast (yellow ranged) or Beam Barrage (yellow ranged), followed by Myopic Screen (purple debuff). The amount of TP refilled is (Overdrive Counter*10)*3. At 50, it'll recover 1500 TP. At MAX, it'll recover 3000 TP. It's a shame that the only Tension Arts I keep on hand are Recuperate (aura: regen + evasion), Full Specs (aura: ranged attack power + potential), and Ether Blast, which I'm seriously considering swapping for Beam Bomber when I eventually unlock it.
Also, hilariously, with the maximum 5x cooldown speed from using Repair and Smooth Recovery to reach maximum overdrive on top of Secondary Accelerator and the armour buffs, I can just keep spamming Gravity Blast because it's an Immediate Reuse type. I look forward to finally getting Topple Length Extension skills.
What's this hairstyle called?
>>323406452
Which is hilarious because Takahashi holds western open worlds as the standard for open world games.
>>323406764
Skells appear in cutscenes
>alright we're fighting this mech the size of a building, let's hop out of our skells to talk for the cutscene and then hop back in
Audio options
Better characters and better interaction between them
Party member AI isn't garbage
>>323407360
JUST
>>323406764
Actual story this time and bring back chain attack and improve on it. Overdrive ruins ground combat and makes almost all battles trivial.
Did I mess up the difficulty by picking Full Metal Jaguar? I recently got Overdrive and I'm OP as fuck now, sometimes doing 30k damage per overdrive and everything just melts as I spam backstab and shadowstrike
>>323407039
The combat's definitely my biggest gripe with the game. It's way better than it was in XC, but I still find it bland.
I realize this is a bit out there, and wont ever happen, but I would fucking go never stop playing this game if it had a combat system more like Monster Hunter, along with more integrated co-op.
Seriously, a mixture of X and Monhun is like my fucking dream game.
>>323407812
>30k for an entire overdrive
fucking lamo
>>323406764
If the same setting as X, MAKE USE OF ALL THESE NEAT ALIEN RACES FOR PARTY MEMBERS. Even if they're optional and don't affet the plot much (think Sharla in XC; probably could've left after a bit without affecting jack shit)
>Prone beastmaster who excels at physical attacks, endurance and can command indigens. Higher level enemies are harder to take control of and require stuff like using Dominate spells while they're toppled but with enough set up and care you can even take over Tyrants temporarily
>Zaruboggan debuffmaster. Uses voltant to inflict every shade of nasty on the enemy, uses gorkwa to remove debuffs from teammates and convert it to healing or even into buffs. Benefits or is at least immune from poor terrain and weather (ie EM storms and poison ponds provide regen etc)
>Sexy cat lady because why the fuck not
>>323407372
I think he just really hates how waifu crazy JRPG has become. To him Japan isn't as good as he wants it to be. They have basically became static and unable to move forward. I mean JRPG was just western PC RPG like Wizardry and Ultima and with a Japanese twist. But he felt western games evolved while JRPG is just stuck in the same place. X to him is just the next evolution. Where Dragon Quest is to 80's RPG X is to today's RPG.
>>323407587
Here's what I did to rememdy the AI.
I swapped part positions to play as whatever character I felt was underpowered, played as them for awhile testing builds till I felt comfortable.
L now wrecks as my hybrid dps/support.
Still working on Elma though.
>>323407932
They seriously dropped the ball on that. This is has fucking bad as when Final Fantasy 12 had nothing but humans (And yes I count the bunny girl as a human).
>mfw running isn't an option for most fights because you get sniped by some random move every monster seems to have
God name i hate some of these monsters and their magical ranged attacks
Someone explain the ending, it's 2deep4me
Who is the best character in the game and why is it Lin Lee Koo
>>323406764
A smaller, more cohesive party with better interactions and banter and the ability to switch teammates on the fly like in Xenoblade.
A Wrothian and Nopon party member.
A way to make Skell combat more engaging than "everyone spams attacks on their own and hope for cockpit mode", like attacks that combo into one-another to synergize better with teammates. Maybe bring back chain attacks as a mechanic for both skells and ground for easier combos.
Better normal online missions, the world nemesis are the only ones that are any fun once you reach level 60.
A way to expand/see fully what the shortened text describing effects on gear says other than having to go into the upgrade effect menu of the AM terminal. Seriously, some of them shortened versions are nothing more than cryptic gibberish.
>>323399776
I like most of the music. The tracks in NLA, except for in the barracks are so bad, though. Also, I don't hate the song during Skell flight, but I'm definitely deterred from continually landing and ascending to the skies again because hearing the first 20 seconds of it on repeat is also awful.
>>323408318
90% of the characters in this game are bland, under-developed motherfuckers who I could give less of a shit about.
And she still loses out to H.B.
>>323408318
>you will never read her fan fiction
Feels bad man
>>323408367
Yeah, I entirely agree with you on everything you said.
I fell in love with the flight theme, thought it was the raddest shit at first, but hearing it over and over really gets tiring, especially considering flight is the optimal way to move around.
>>323408205
>getting out of range of a fight and having the music stop/battle menu disappear etc
>5 projectiles catch up to you and harmlessly crash into you
Too fucking close every time
I CAN'T HEAR YOU
>>323406764
I almost forgot; KEEP THE MOVEMENT SPEED/MOBILITY FROM X. I'm playing Chronicles 3D and holy fuck, it feels like I'm swimming through molasses.
Keep skells but use enclosed areas/untraversable-on-foot-areas to provide opportunities for areas that are balanced around being on foot/in a skell (ie in an area where you're meant to use skells, you need to make use of binding a lot more, you shouldn't be able to trivalize an area)
>>323406764
I'd like some out of combat abilities.
Maybe some shit to distract/sneak past monsters.
Or traps.
>>323407039
Basic attacks would kill it, I think. I already have enough on my hands wondering if I should wait for the secondary cooldown or just use something right away, and soul voices keep me on my toes often enough.
Auto attacks are already weak as balls compared to any art. Why would you make them even weaker?
>>323407230
I'd rather see an art priority system than actual party control. Use these arts less often, or these arts more often. Use this the moment it's available, use this when it's got its second cooldown only, use this as you see fit...
It might be kind of neat to see AI learn or something from the kinds of commands you give them, like Pawns. Like, I want to be able to flip through and tell Elma to "ATTACK FROM THE SIDES!" or "AIM FOR THE BACK!" and be able to eventually figure "Oh, I should probably use these arts when attacking from the sides, and when I'm using this aura, move to the back to use these arts."
>>323407805
>overdrive ruins ground combat
I don't see how. It's almost never worth the TP drain unless you're going up against a tyrant or a whole pack of enemies a few levels higher than you, and Overdrive doesn't necessarily mean you aren't going to get two-shot or wombo comboed if you pick your battles poorly. Also the number of people who actually understand how to Overdrive and how to take full advantage of its quirks are pitifully few.
>>323406764
THE ABILITY TO RECONNECT ONLINE FROM IN THE FUCKING GAME INSTEAD OF HAVING TO BAIL TO MENU TO RECONTINUE.
THE ABILITY TO LEAVE SOULS-STYLE IN-WORLD MESSAGES.
AN ACTUAL FUCKING CHAT ROOM.
PERSISTENT SQUADS WHICH PEOPLE CAN MAKE, NAME, SIGN UP OR RECRUIT FOR, AND RETURN TO WHEN THEY GET BACK INTO THE GAME.
MORE DETAILED ITEM LOCATION DETAILS - IF YOU FOUND THE GAME IN WORLD ONCE, THEN IT WILL TELL YOU WHAT PART OF THE REGION, INSTEAD OF JUST THE REGION, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO ASK NPCS OR JUST RUN AROUND HOPING FOR THE BEST. MAYBE COLLECTION QUESTS IN PARTICULAR COULD MARK ITEM CRYSTALS RED.
I don't suppose anyone would have access to a drop list from tyrants, right?
>>323408770
I CAN'T SEE YOU
>>323408367
That would have been SUCH a simple thing to fix, too:
>Flying activates by pressing jump while in the air, pressing jump on the ground just makes you jump normally (that way you can immediately take off by simply double pressing jump)
>The flight theme only kicks in if you go so far off the ground, like how the ocean theme kicks in if you leave the coast.
Does Lao have any heart to hearts?
>>323408953
>distract/sneak past monsters
There's augmentations for reducing enemy sensory range.
You can use Elma's shadowrunner art for a couple dozen seconds of running through a pit of enemies with none of them detecting you at all.
>>323409098
He has 5 like everyone else. They're not required for 100% completion.
>>323409091
>>323409091
Youre fucking genius.
I had a hard time trying to think of a theoretical fix to it, and couldnt think of something satsfying, as I wouldnt want to ditch the theme. But damn. That's so simple and elegant.
>>323409098
Yes, but they don't tell you much that you don't already know, and they're not mandatory for 100% completion.
>>323408998
>like Pawns. Like, I want to be able to flip through and tell Elma to "ATTACK FROM THE SIDES!" or "AIM FOR THE BACK!"
man full metal jaguar is wasted on AI as the whole fucking class is based around positioning and melee to range / range to melee comboing
>>323408276
pls spoonfeed
So what's the downside to heavy armour?
It seems pretty good to me.
>>323409180
>>323409235
Alright. Thanks.
>>323401087
That scene made me laugh.We never find out who these Mysterions are right?
>>323402187
>rogue Orphen
wait, how is that possible?
>>323408276The Lifehold Core didn't actually hold real people in stasis, because that would have been an impractical mode of transportation and limit the number of humans saved. Instead, 20 million human consciousnesses were digitized and stored in servers, and samples of the DNA of every living things on Earth were gathered and stored in a device capable of decoding and manipulating said DNA as to give birth to practically any living creature from scratchThe Ganglion are artifically-created slave laborer for the empire of Samaar, their Samaarian masters hardcoded something in the Ganglion's DNA that makes Samaarian DNA extremely toxic to them, making sure the Ganglion would never rise up against them and spill Samaarian blood. Humans are actually descendant of the Samaarians and their DNA still holds the power to destroy Ganglion. The Ganglion feared humanity and decided to blow Earth up from orbit. Elma knew the Ganglion would one day come to Earth and decided to devise a plan to try and save humanity, giving them access to technology far more advanced than their own. She's the one that gave us schematics for Skells, light-speed travel ark-ships, the DNA machine, etc. It's unclear why Elma cares about preserving humanity so much, but it's possible she's just an Earthaboo
Continued.
>>323409912They are love anon
>>323409912
>wait, how is that possible?
they explain it but I dont remember it right now, they all are high logical but they are not a hive mind tho
>>323403481
>no fun police
but why does it hate skells
>>323409502
Low dodge chance and shit-tier Gravity resistance. Lighter armor also usually comes with better elemental resistance while heavy armor usually focuses on physical/raw defense
>>323406764
Some way to actually coordinate your party members. The AI for them is just awful and adds an artificial layer of difficulty to the game (not calling the game difficult). The first game also had this problem but at least I had some opportunities to control the other party members during chain attacks.
Also remove that stupid 30sec timer that forces you out of the battle if you die, there have been several instances where I could have won if not for time going out a second before I was about to win. Better yet, give me the option to switch to another character if I die.
>>323404959
they make cute as fuck weapons
>>323410063
do you randomly kill an ant when you see it?
no, you ignore it.
if you see an ant 10 times it size?
you are likely to kill it.
same logic
>>323409502
>>323410067
You can upgrade the stats of light gear more.
>>323410067
is good that just few enemies are built around gravity damage, but does that are, handle you your own ass. like xe-doms
>>323407932
B-but what about Nopon and Orphen and Ma-non!
>>323410023
So Vulcans?
>>323410175
>if you see an ant 10 times it size?
I don't think those exist... right?
>captcha
>select pies
>pizza
>implying pizzas are pies by definition
>>323410450
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ka3hNgR4Qo
>>323410286Do you want to keep hearing Ma-non chit chat for hours upon hours in combat? Because I actually would love it.
>>323409962The mims' consciousnesses (other than Elma's) weren't being streamed from their real bodies like everybody (but the higher-ups) though, but instead it was streamed from the consciousness database of the Lifehold. Or so it should have been. Instead, it's revealed the entire database has been completely trashed in the crash, and is non-functional. It seems that the data is then being streamed from Mira itself. Mira's an odd case to be sure, for one thing, none of the alien races brought there against their will like the Ganglion, Humans and basically anyone that isn't a Nopon or L seem to know WHERE the fuck in space IS Mira. Also, despite having workable ships capable of space travel, none of them can LEAVE Mira. Those forcefields you see in-game aren't merely game-related invisible walls. They're real, and no one can get pass them, not even time-traveling Professor B. It seems an unseen force is manipulating all these races and people to learn and co-exist together for some reason. Who or what that force is and what its true purpose is remains unexplained. It seems to be the same phenomenon that is translating everyone's languages.My theory is that that force is Alvis, but that's merely speculation.
>>323410528
>>323410450
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKRSo5npu4I
>>323410286
maybe an Man-on specialized on long range attack
and that failed clone Orphen that wants adventure as fuck
Nopon still a shitty race.
>>323410373
basically
>>323410450
its an example, you got the drift, giants dont care for ants, but something bigger, is worth kill
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I still wonder why only L is the only one of his race we encounter.. and he is supposed to be a MIRA native. not like the other race that were brought in the ganglion ship
>>323410757
It was my impression that L lives on Mira, but wasn't born on it.
>>323410286
A heropon is fine, too.imagine if it was tatsu's dad and he kicked 12 shades of ass wearing those sweet kamina shades
>>323410713
Alright but then who were the aliens that the Ganglion were fighting over earth?
First the story said two alien forces were at war and Earth was just caught in between, but later it is revealed the Ganglion were hunting humans on purpose.
So who was the other alien space army?
>>323411046
>Tatsu doesn't get to keep the shades after the mission
FUCK
>>323411106Elma's race
>>323411010
L even mention his people.
>>323411117
He does. He just doesn't wear them, which is sad. It means the only way to see them again is to put up the holofigure, but I felt weird doing that once I looked behind his glasses and discovered that his eyes are literally just 3_3. Also it would give the little potato a lot of ego to know I kept his figure up.
>>323411106
>So who was the other alien space army?Probably Elma's people, trying to stop Samaar/the Ganglion. Elma did seem pretty resentful of the Samaarians in the second Goetia fight.
Seriously it's obvious a lot of the plot was cut out/is missing, there's a lot of, I wouldn't say plotholes, but "blanks" in the story that failed to be filled and makes the whole thing pretty confusing to grasp.
>>323411106
>>323411207
it was not show. also.. fun fact. the ones that crash the WW in MIRA where not the Ganglion but the other Race. the purple ones.
how did no one mention that we're all robots
and why do so many people freak out when someone dies? I understand they may never see each other again but no one entertains the idea they have a equal chance of survival
>>323411384
>how did no one mention that we're all robots
they do. after chapter 5 tho. also the idea is to forge they are robots tho.
>>323411384
>and why do so many people freak out when someone dies?
Because they haven't found the lifehold yet. No lifehold, no bringing people back, and only squad leaders like Irina, Lao and Elma know that the countdown's a doomsday clock. Plus there's the chance that the Ganglion, with their superior numbers and flight tech, could find the lifehold first and bypass its defenses before the humans could secure it.
>>323408276
I can tell you how the plot would have ended with 100% accuracy.Either Elma or some unintroduced character would have been the last of the Samaarians. The Samaarians come back, maybe using the Lifehold biocreator machine and the human DNA. They start being big assholes, probably enslaving or killing all of the other non-Samaarian races on Mira, so the humans have to rise up and fight off their ancestors to save the other races and probably the universe. The humans might have even worked with the Ganglion. This fits in with Takahashi's love of the "the being that created you is/became evil so you have to rise up and kill them for the greater good despite your affiliation" theme. I am 100% positive the end would have involved humans vs Samaarians.L is recycled Alvis and is the embodiment of Mira or some shit. He probably brought all of the aliens crashing to Mira to satiate his "thirst for knowledge" or some shit. However, if the ruins in Cauldros were Samaarian, then maybe Mira's consciousness knew about/was created by the Samaarians and brought all of these races to Mira to try and stop the Samaarian threat. Note that L using "we" as a pronoun was a translation addition. He says "I" in the jap version.Also there would be some shit about "The Samaar" being God, in that it came from a "different plain", and assumedly being unable to live in this reality, created life so that it could remotely "live" through living beings in this realm. This would tie a conventional idea of God and the soul to the game's overarching theme of remote consciousness and what it means to be alive. Living beings would be like robots and their sentience would be controlling them from a different realm of existence just like the lifehold computer controlled the mims.
>>323411384
There were PLENTY of hints up to that chapter.
>the "doctor" who "fixes people up" is a technician outside a building called a "mimeosome maintenance center"
>Elma tells you that your senses will need time to "reactivate"
as a Psycorruptor, you gain an art called "Repair" and another called "Full Specs"
>there's a quest that tells you to show off the full capabilities of the Mimeosome
>Hope's recruitment affinity quest has a woman walk up and ask if "these Mimeosome bodies can conceive"
>>323411345
The purple aliens are called "Ghosts" in the Secret File Art Book of XCX. Yeah, It's pretty obvious a lot of the story was cut halfway through development & resources were shifted into the gameplay, online & world. You can tell Monolith did their best within the time they had to rewrite the story and make it as good as they could.
>>323405786
are you serious? Phina was heavily traumatized and had to quit BLADE, even if she got her real body back her mind is still messed up. Grette will wake up and the first thing she'll remember is getting skinned and dismembered, she's gonna be doped up on psycho meds for life
>>323411106
>Alright but then who were the aliens that the Ganglion were fighting over earth?
They're called the "Ghost" in the short stories. They have technology that can phase through matter; they left antimatter cores on the white whale which Elma's partner disposed of before disappearing into the void of space.
>>323411106
>So who was the other alien space army?
Its never revealed during the game, but I believe in the Art of Mira their called Ghosts.
>>323411785
and also, that the main responsible for the blown on the earth. as their anti matter skells were basically nukes when they crashed on earth
its also worth to mention that is likely the Samarians created the garbage xenos too. not only the Ganglion
>>323411785
gotta hunch that that guy was supposed to be the original protagonist before he was scrapped for the custom made avatar. Or it was his father & you later inherit that Skell he uses in the intro.
Is Galactic Knight any good? I really like the name of the class.
Astral Crusader sounds cool too, but I can't see myself using a sniper in this game.
>>323411986
More like your nameless protag is the mim of the lone hero with a faulty backup of his memories.
>>323412054
Yeah it's got some high-damage combos and pretty useful auras and skills.
Alright I'm absolutely clueless here.
When should I use the gun, when my sword?
Cant even compare damage numbers because the sword is a big swing and my rifle goes rattattat.
>>323412496
>rattattat
are you by any chance stupid?
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just to make sure. did you just started the game?
>>323412496
I...what...
Anyways there are two types of arts. One that builds up when you are using range and one that builds up when using melee. So it's good switch them around to keep up the arts.
>>323412054
Sniper rifle has an art or two where you flip it around your body for multiple sick trickshots.
>>323412496
Back off with gun when you want to get less aggro and not deal with close range attacks. The trade off is that you generally get less TP though unless you fuck with augs or use specific arts. Also ranged weapons have a reload period.
Melee generally has better damage and TP gain in its auto attacks but this is not guaranteed to be the case depending on your build, but it also has greater aggro gain and puts you right in the enemy's face ready for its fat cock to smash your jaw.
With me in particular I just use knife when I want to get secondary cooldowns on my buff/heal arts and my aura arts, or need quick TP gain since ray gun is shit for that... for now.
>>323411730
Is the hint in Hope's recruitment mission before you after you would have to go to Cauldros? I did this mission quite a bit after finishing Chapter 5, so I didn't think anything if the "can mimeosomes conceive" line. If you can get to Cauldros before you start Chapter 5, you probably deserve the hint.
>>323412496
Depends which arts you want to build the secondary cooldown for. All your arts are tied to your weapons, some build their secondary cooldown when you have your melee weapon out, others when it's your ranged weapon. Using your weapon's auto-attacks also builds TP. Melee weapon usually go slow but give big chunks of TP per hit, while ranged weapons usually go fast but build very little TP per hit (with exceptions, obviously)
Once you max out a class branch (say, go all the way to rank 10 Duelist), you can use that class branch's weapons with any other class, allowing you to mix-and-match arts.
For example, after maxing Duelist, I started to build toward Full Metal Jaguar while still using my Assault Riffle, that way I could use FMJ's dual-sword Shadow Strike art to inflict Stagger before using the Riffle's Assault Hammer to inflict Topple.
>>323413052
>If you can get to Cauldros before you start Chapter 5, you probably deserve the hint.
You definitely can. Its not a pleasant trip, but you can
>>323412496
It's mostly what you spec to. Certain builds want you to switch it up, others you can lean heavily on one while merely supporting with the other.
It all depends on what skills and arts you are using.
>>323412674
rattatatatatatatata
>>323412772
>>323412852
>>323413154
Thanks, thats what I wanted to know.
Wasnt aware of weapon types reducing cooldowns.
>>323413309
advice. take 1 hour off and read ALL the manual
>>323413214
>You definitely can. Its not a pleasant trip, but you can
this, you can get to all regions (at least the start of a region) at any point. exploring it is a different matter tho.
>>323412054
Astral Crusader is fun purely for the spear but the damage is kinda eh
>>323413214
What I mean is is the line aboutmims birthin'delivered before or after you would have to make that shitty trip?
You can pick up the mission after Chapter 4, meaning your PC would hear Hope talking to the other NPC aboutmims (and whether or not they can conceive)well before yourarm gets blown off.
>>323413052
Getting anywhere at any point isn't particularly difficult, just time-consuming
Since exploration is so enjoyable in this game I really didn't mind the tripswimming from Primordia to Sylvarant was not fun though, fuck swimming
>>323413662
The line is before you actually need to make the trip. Regardless though it's an affinity mission so if you activate it before Chapter 5 you'll have to see the hint.
So do classes even matter much early game? I know I should max one branch first, but I can't decide which I want to max first.
I'm kind of leaning towards Duelist, but it doesn't seem like it has much utility
>>323413842
duelist is the most balanced. one
the advantage of mastering a class is that you can use the class weapons without needing the class set. that means that after you master more classes you can mix range and melee weapons different from the class pre-builds.
>>323404503
They do but just make sure you don't buy their shampoo.
>>323413309
Not REDUCING cooldowns.
Engaging SECONDARY cooldowns.
It'll cool down once, then you can use it. It'll cool down twice, and then you can have added effects on top of that. Switching weapons in the middle of a secondary cooldown will halt it until you switch back.
>>323414095
Ahhh okay, but don't certain arts require certain weapons? Are would you be mostly grabbing buffs and debuffs from other classes at that point?
>>323413842
They matter in that by the time you start maxing a second branch, you may have a difficult time since you'll be less adept at using Arts from that branch, so you'll have to keep the weapons from the old class around to get you out of tough spots that your new Arts aren't so good at yet.
At least that's the issue I've been faced with. Maybe I just to to used to Duelist.
Although I'm just now getting the hang of FMJ rockin' the Orphe Evade Plus gear but still using Assault Rifle so I have 2 Taunt Arts, Evade tanking shit more than 10 levels higher while my 0-hearted lower level comrades take forever to kill it.
>game crashed while I was customizing my new Verus Cain
T-thanks. Really fucking glad it makes you save after time attacks, getting Rexoskell Suckers is a pain
>>323414275
yes, but I mean, Duelist is Rifle + Long sword, and Full Metal Jaguar is double sword + double guns. if you max both class you can use the weapons without hte class
so you can go Double Sword + Riflle (and the corresponding art for each weapon)
also any skill you unlock on each class can be used on other class after you max out hte class
>>323406995
Dude, what? I finished that quest before I was half your time. He hangs out at first in the industrial district, at the back of the place right before that huge area with Lin's Heart to heart in it. Then you get a completely unrelated quest and he's like, "Oh yeah, sorry about not paying you." Then you get the goods.
For more indepth instructions, see >>>/vg/xbcx/
>>323407113
Sucks that you can't control the music volume either.
Holy shit psycho launchers are stupid as hell, but I fucking love these photon sabers.
>>323401984
I dunno, I love that goofy pose and the zoom-in for the punchline. Different anon from >>323401748 btw
>>323414908
With the Barracks' music going on each time, too, it has a very cheesy sitcom or saturday morning cartoon feel to it. It's a refreshing mood lightener after the fake-suicide/murder and actual suicide missions.
LinlyXTatsu
>>323410103
Maybe you shouldn't die as much, you fucking casual.
>>323408318
If only I could dress her in swimsuits.
>>323409292
Just make a team of Full metal jaguars and constantly spam "Assemble!"
>>323415586
So they all can use Back arts when we're all Side and Side arts when we're all Back?
No thanks.
>>323412295
So I keep hearing people say that they bad TP gain. I still know jack shit about the game so would it be best to avoid until I actually know how things work?
If that's the case I might just go duelist
>>323415694
Come on, it'll be fun just like an episode of Benny Hill.
>>323415694
>>323415586
and still dont fix the problem on the M to R and R to M comboing of the class
>>323416001
Fuck me, you made me love it. Plz2Youtube exactly this.
>>323411730
Maurice also has a line where he says "we wouldn't be talking here right now" if the lifehold core was offline.
>>323417610
you know what the game miss. some fucking bare hands combat shit. like knuckles or Arm guards
>chapter 10 boss
fucked his shit up on foot because of skell loss. feels goodman
>>323405973
How fucking shit are you?
I only had a level 50 Inferno and 3 level 30 skells.
Unless you have shit luck and get zero cockpit-modes, I don't see how one couldn't solo the whole thing.
>>323419456
just in case you are not the same faggot >>323406082
see >>323406278
>>323406764
Remove Tatsu
Shop filter by company.
Party selection from the barracks instead of
finding every single fucker in perso every time
More playable aliens
Better tracking for item quests
Skell exclusive levels (in space/underwater/aerial...)
Remove Tatsu
More believable cutscenes, aka if your character is just chilling, eating or being cured in a medical tube, maybe remove its fucking full armor and helmet. Likewise, keep track whether the party is in Skells and have that affect the cut-scene, especially when three Randys think they can take on 4 mechs with their little pea shooters.
More vehicle mode variety for mechs.
Maybe have some that can morph into combat vehicles, destroy natural obstacles or fly better than Skells depending on their nature.
More NLA defense bits, from either Ganglion or Tyrants
Division-only bonuses and missions
At least let Tatsu use his father's shades for fuck's sake
>>323420304
>/underwater
man, fuck that. I hate everything that is underwater.
that being said. underwater will add in 1 extra layer of exploration to the game tho. and expand the world
>>323406764
-Remove MMO-shit like stupid grinding quests and impactless attack system
-Remove rap soundtrack
>destroy skell 3 times by falling into the bottomless pit in Oblivia trying to land on the small platform
>Finally make it
>Needs 5 mechanic skill to activate the probe
Well I feel like an idiot. What level should I be before doing chapter 9 for the flight module? I'm sitting at 30 at the moment.
>>323420525
>-impactless attack system
>-Remove rap soundtrack
get out.
>>323420547
>I'm sitting at 30 at the moment.
I was near 50.. being overleveled for the the last chapters makes em relatively easy, but that is better than stress the fuck out for being mauled
>>323420683
I'll level up more then. I'm more interested in having everyone in my team in a skell than I am in the main story.
Another thing though. Where do i get more storage and research probes? I have a million mining ones but not much else.
>>323420519
Imagine underwater exploration with xeno fishes and sea monsters like in Subnautica; that and beautiful seabed "landscapes".
Coupled with some really comfy music.
That would make a great use of all that water too.
>spend all my time doing side missions and upgrades and shit
>get detonation flail
>barely able to fight some tyrants still
>well I should probably finish chapter 12
>fight starts
>det flail
>immediately win
>4 times
>maybe 5
Man the scaling in this game is so out of whack.
So anyway, do we ever find out who the fuck the co pilot in elma's skell was? I remember early on somebody mentioning it was a dual cockpit or some shit and started to talk about the other pilot and got cut off. Was it leon?
>>323420683
Still remember Chapter 4 boss fight. Took me a while to finally finish that fight.
>>323420840
I know will be awesome. I just have some feral fear to underwater lvls (thanks Zelda and Shadow of the Colossus)
I really want this game but if I had to use that HUD I would blow my brains out.
Anyway to minimize it or something? Fuck.
>>323420939
Some horror segments wouldn't hurt either.
They always work best in non-horror games.
>>323421079
It's not as bad in-game.
