whats the hardest game /v/
>>322701596
my dick lmao
life
>>322701596
>>322701596
walking up the stairs when you have hemorrhoids
>>322701596
god hand
>>322702972
hemorrhoids suck but they arent all bad as they feel nice in your asshole when you cum though, its a nice kind of tingle.
>>322701596
Dark Souls.
>>322701596
Hello Kitty Cube Frenzy.... don't ask.
>>322701596
>DF
>hard
Broken is not hard. Complicated is not hard.
>>322701596
minecraft or undertale
>almost 10 years since it was released
>nobody has beaten dwarf fortress yet
>>322703219
Well, now I have to ask.
Getting in your mom's pants.
Nah, just kidding, it was easy.
>>322703361
thiz
>>322703361
>>322704007
>>322703361
How can you when the game slows down to a near halt after 200+ dwarves
>>322701596
the ET game or ghouls and ghosts
>>322703167
underrated post
Dwarf Fortress would be significantly less difficult if its UI wasn't a massive shitpile. I don't just mean if it was less menus inside of menus, no, that's fine, whatever. What I mean is that basic tasks are a roundabout process and certain information which should be immediately accessible easily cannot be easily and quickly accessed. For example, if I remember correctly, you can't just get a list of all dwarves doing some particular task. You'd have to check each dwarf individually to check what task each one is doing. There is no good reason this should be the case, but it is. Add to this the clunkiness of navigating the menus and the fact that you have to install tilesets to even tell what the fuck you're looking at half the time and you have Dwarf Fortress--a massively-overrated management sim supported primarily by the spamming of memes and people being nostalgic for old games from the 80s they never actually played.
>>322704803
I'm sorry people's design choices don't comform to your streamlined babby gameplay you want
>>322704434
>He doesn't lower his population cap in the .ini file
A fortress of 80 Dwarves that are +5 Legendaries in multiple things each is four times better than a fort of 250 piss ass faggots that sit around and eat your plump helmet spawn reserves.
>>322704803
>tilesets
I can't even play without the default ascii, it's the only way I know
>>322704803
this
KABLAM! Land Mine!
>>322701596
Unpatched Impossible Mission
Literally impossible.
>>322705427
Came here to post this.
>>322703361
There isn't an end, doesn't make it the hardest. You can't beat minecraft, doesn't make it the hardest game.
Have you beat Comix Zone yet?
>>322701596
Midnight Club 2 When the Tokyo levels kick in
>>322701596
Mmm I got two of those one old and one "new":
Mordor: Depths of Dejenol (Single Char,Grind shit, outdated as fuck, beatable)
SotS:The pit on Seriously!? or Insane (Roguelike with micromanagement)
>>322706115
Minecraft actually has an end state and final boss though.
>starcraft ever requiring less skill than halo
>>322702953
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKG1sDZA8h0
>>322707443
Halo and Starcraft are equally terrible.
>>322707690
>Halo
>terrible
>>322705427
>Need to know basically everything from Wizardry 1-3
>Maps are completely insane
>True ending is impossible to actually get
>Limited number of key strokes
>Ghost that one shots you
>Puzzles that you need to know pop culture to solve
At the time that game was so ahead of it's time but I can't imagine anyone actually enjoying that game at all. I mean I actually played and beat Wizardry 1 on my own and loved it but no way in hell I'm going to try that game.
>>322701596
dwarf fortress isn't hard. it takes maybe 1-2 forts before you'll never lose one again barring something really reckless
>>322704803
>tilesets
you had me till there anon
>>322701596
How does dwarf fortress go back in time?
>>322703290
>complicated is not hard
lol
>>322708472
>he doesn't embark in a freezing, terrifying zone with no forest and high savagery
>>322702784
Life is easy as fuck unless you have mental issues.
>>322709127
bring wood and wall yourself in. tedious but ez
>>322701596
Since 2012 i have seen a lot of people bitching about how hard is to get into Melee, Quake 3, Stalker and Morrowind.
>>322701596
In what fucking universe does Starcraft start off easier than Halo? Especially if we're talking about Starcraft 1.
>>322709303
>grind 8 hours a day
>need to force yourself to be social
>need to exercise 1 hour a day
>need to spreadsheet what you eat to be healthy
>random retards all over the place that could accidentally kill you
>random chance of getting a lethal disease
yeah bud, easy
>>322709761
if you have zero experience there's definitely a learning curve to console fps games
TFW I got CS 1.6 9 years ago without knowing anything about the mechanics of the game.
Took me 50 hours of playtime before I realized you couldn't move and shoot.
Another 20 for spray patterns to get through my skull.
Another 60 to actually start using flashes and smokes effectively.
This was without any external assistance but I definitely belong on a short bus.
>>322710032
Get gud
>>322710048
sure, but the same can be said of anything. if you have zero experience rts games will fuck you're shit up sideways
>>322710319
>Took me 50 hours of playtime before I realized you couldn't move and shoot.
There is no bus short enough for you
This takes your average person like, 5 minutes to figure out
>>322701596
god i hate that image. it shows the complete opposite of what it means to.
>>322710508
What do you want me to do man, I was super used to CoD also no good tutorials and there is no visual feedback whatsoever. I would usually just hop on some casual ffa server and spray like a noob. :(
>>322710351
yeah but the learning curve is gentler. non-gamers are familiar with clicking things, less so with trying to move + aim in 3d space using two joysticks (this often takes new players a long time - they get lost in walls/the floor/the ceiling/etc and can't aim + shoot)
granted both are pretty easy
>>322710826
>:(
Get the fuck out of here.
>beat Ys Oath in Felghana on normal without too much trouble
>beat normal boss rush
>feel good about myself
>skip hard and try nightmare
>give up on second boss
I'm sure there are tons of games harder than Ys, but clearly I'm a casual. I can't even imagine fighting some bosses on Inferno.
>>322710826
cod has pretty large accuracy penalties for moving + shooting too
The PS2 port of DoDnPachi DaiOuJou's Death Label mode has only ever been cleared twice, seems difficult enough to me, especially considering the difficulty of the regular game
>>322708294
You need to have an intimate understanding of fucking Kabbalahby which I mean google, but back then, fuckto get the true ending, not not mention the goddamn dink puzzle and the part where you have to travel into hell for a second with that stupid puzzle that instakills you if you fuck it up, and saving causing all the monsters to respawn
>>322704803
You could say the exact same thing about Starcraft 1. Most of the skill was your ability to work with the shitty UI you're given, and make the units actually do what you want them to. Unit pathing was pretty bad, so you were considered a good player if you could get your units to actually follow your instructions. Pic related.No one's been paid 6 figure salaries for playing Dwarf Fortress
I don't think I've ever heard of anyone beating the Sims so that gets my vote
Or pic related
![iwbtg_dock_icon_by_cloudredxiii[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/sjKMTvx.png "iwbtg_dock_icon_by_cloudredxiii[1].png")
>>322711248
"Surprise! Here's a mechanic that instantly kills you!" isn't hard, that's just tedious.
>>322701596
Metal gear for the msx
>>322701596
>Time spent playing
>Required Skill
>You need to play for x hours to get required skill
>No one notices how fucked up this graphic is
Holy shit /v/ i expected more, are you really this dumb
>>322711248
this game is, unironcially, artificial difficulty
>>322702693
Too bad it's short as hell
>>322711441 (u)
Anyone ever breach hell on purpose with a 200 strong military and killing lanes?
>>322711139
there were none
random cod frag movie i looked up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njQmvC78LXU
>>322711164
>You could say the exact same thing about Starcraft 1
And you would be entirely correct, fuck the retards who think shit like no MBS made it better.
>>322711595
am i getting memed on
>>322702693
>>322701596
I could never beat Mighty Morphin Power Rangers
>>322711675
I remember back when SC2 was announced and all the BW fans said MBS would make it a super casual, no skill game lol
>>322711681
look at that gameplay and tell me there was inaccuracy added because of movement (unless you are talking about hip fire which is completely different)
>>322711783
Man, that was the shit when I was 7. I'll never replay it to not taint my memories.
>>322711875
it sways the sights and changes recoil instead of enlarging a cone of fire cs-style
>>322711675
I think there's an argument for and against MBS, but the overarching point going from brood war to sc2 was that it was humanly possible to have perfect micro and macro. In Brood War, you could only do so much, so players had to specialized in something and had (more visibly) different playstyles. In SC2, having perfect macro is a bare minimum standard at the Korean level, and the difference in playstyles are very subtle, unless you're a cheesing faggot. LotV did a lot of macro changes, so we'll have to wait and see how things pan out in the upcoming months.
>>322711821
Yeah, and now people are already saying "SC2 is too hard, that's why it's not getting new players." The game would definitely be in a worse spot if it were just Brood War with a graphics revamp.
>>322711821
in other words starcraft fans are autistic, this surprises you?
>>322703167
have hemorrhoids. don't agree. maybe a little. generally feel weird and like shit tho
>>322711821
And then what happened? Oh right, viewership tanked as every fucking random that bought the game made it to diamond and people that practiced populated master and grandmaster.
>>322711675
MBS was important. Speed and dexterity was important. Were there better mechanics? Yes. Did SC2 just remove difficulty without adding it back in other ways? Also yes.
The reason we were bothered by MBS was it, unit control, and a dozen different seemingly insignificant things made the skill level for the game extremely high.
Starcraft 2 removed so many of the challenges of Starcraft 1. Without them, most players ended up gravitating to the top. At least those that were slightly involved and bothered to learn to play.
In the end, BW was killed so Blizzard could make $ off SC2. But SC2 wasn't the competitive successor and most of us fucked off to Dota 2 where despite all its problems, it was more interesting technically and didn't reward casuals as much. AS MUCH.
>>322701596
Trying to not fap when you're dealing with Hematospermia. No I'm not linking an image, go look that shit up yourself.
>>322712157
ah ok, I was thinking of randomness added to spray like CS does it
Dwarf Fortress is complex yes. Hard? Nah.
>>322712347
It's just a backlash to the casualization of gaming. Almost every game is easier than it's predecessor in this day and age, unless difficulty is an emphasis of the game.
You know, back when "Nintendo Hard" was a thing.But that was mainly because games weren't very large back then, so the difficulty would be ramped up to pad gametime
>>322712539
if the only thing that makes your game "hard" is a shitty UI, it's not a good game
>>322701596
Exactly how much time travel will I be experiencing if I play Dorfs?
>>322701596
>learning curve of popular games
>dwarf fortress
>popular games
>>322712731
Alright bud enjoy your casual games and tell yourself difficulty isn't real difficulty if you're not good at it.
I will fondly remember the times spent watching bw tourneys with millions of others.
>>322712731
The game is more than 15 years old, it was a good UI for its time, but not by the standards that even Warcraft 3 managed to raise 4 years later.
Starcraft is a good game. If it had been released as is today, it'd be a terrible game.
>>322712913
>if you don't like it you're just bad at it (^:
>>322705427
Does anyone have the image explaining just how bullshit this game is?
>>322712790
if you're familiar with roguelikes and sim games such as rct2 you won't have a problem
>>322703361
what about the guy who colonized hell, or the legendary rape adventurer?
>>322712913
>millions
Nah bro, outside Korea BW was never that popular. Even in Korea it wasn't millions watching it.
>>322712539
What's going in that pic?
>>322711783
For some reason, I have a memory of getting so many blisters on my thumb playing that game as a kid.
>>322712539
>as every fucking random that bought the game made it to diamond and people that practiced populated master and grandmaster.
>Without them, most players ended up gravitating to the top. At least those that were slightly involved and bothered to learn to play.
This is bullshit, and you know it. League distribution was constantly posted, and most people were either in Gold or worse. The only time league distributions were fucked up was the first year or so of HotS. The playerbase increased due to the release of an expansion, leading to the people presently in plat and diamond getting shoved into diamond and masters as more people filled up bronze, silver, and gold league. After playing a few months, most of those people quit the game again. Because Blizzard removed mid-season demotions, it was nearly impossible for anyone who made it in Diamond league to drop out of Diamond league, leaving us with 30% of the playerbase in Diamond and some 5-10% in masters until Blizzard decided to do something about it.
If it's modern games then literally Dark Souls, regardless of what some of you might say From games are a great deal more difficult than 99% of games released in the last few years.
Though Lords of the Fallen is pushing my shit in for some reason, I thought it was supposed to be an easy DS?
>>322713910
Souls games played at low levels with shit builds are hard. High levels or twink builds make them a joke.
>>322713347
judging by the filename (bw vs sc2 dot jaypeg), it appears to be a comparison between the audience attending a SC2 live event (top) and a BW one (bottom).
>>322703290
this
the only reason its hard is because you can't tell what most of the shit is on the screen is
>>322705427
Weren't fans wanting a harder game so they went out of their way to make this shit as ridiculous as possible?
>>322707443
Judging by campaigns, which is a retarded metric anyways, halo is harder than a ton of games.
>inb4 LASO doesn't count
>>322712905
The chart originally said EVE Online I think, dwarf fortress autists thought it fit their game just fine and changed it, though.
>>322701596
Eve Online, because autism.
>>322714412
Yeah, Legendary on Halo 2 was somewhat nightmarish.
>instaheadshots by beam rifle wielding Jackals
>>322714048
Precisely why everyone here says they are easy. They are easy once you are high level and have already finished them once. But playing it blindly the first time? It's pretty difficult and unnerving, few games can give the feeling of tension they do in a first playthrough
>>322714125
>What is "L"
hows it being tarded
>>322713082
this one? this isnt everything mind you
>>322704803
>tilesets
>>322714482
Not like EVE is that popular either
dorf fort isn't even hard it is just trial and error with bad ui.
>>322713252
I remember legandary rape adventurer but can you post that hell colonization thing?
>>322717206
I swear these stupid "omg so hard" games attract the worst communities because they feel a need to shove it up in everyone's faces that they play a game that's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much harder than anything you play, as if it makes them superior to you.
>>322717618
Some people are just dicks anon, nothing we can do about it.
>>322701596
X3 reunion isnt exactly hard but goddamn if it isnt steep as fuck, game gives you a lot of freedom though, just wish there was a more fleshed out tutorial
God Hand, Metal Slug, Ghost'n Globins, Comix Zone, Ikaruga.
>>322717618
eve isn't even hard, it's just a bunch of retards saying things like "haha this game is nice to read about but its too complicated for me xD"
>>322711134
GRINDAN
>>322718453
>ikaruga
Nice meme faggot
>>322717618
Try and talk about the Civ series. Seriously within four posts someone will start shitting the place up talking about CK2 or HoI or a series of shitty games that aren't even in the same genre as CIV but are just better, apparently.
>>322711146
This.
I still dont even know how the guy did it.
>>322725107
well I mean it took both him and Yusemi SWY, who finished it two weeks later, over 8 years to do it, since the game came out in 2003 and they cleared it in 2011, and it hasnt been cleared again since. Poor SWY, he was so close to being the first to ever do it, MON just barely beat him out, cant say he has reason to complain though, at least he beat it.
![images[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6jQPgsm.jpg "images[1].jpg")
This
IWBTG seems like its probably one of the hardest single-player games, but multiplayer games always have potential to be the hardest if your opponent is one of the best players in the world.
rip thread
>>322729859
It had a good run
>>322701596
MM3
>checkpoints everywhere
>infinite lives and continues
>very few parts that are hard to get through consistently after you do them a couple of times
I think just about every single arcade game is harder than IWBTG.
>Counter Strike
U bunch of autists could train 24/24 7/7 for a year that I'ld still destroy ur anuses.
>>322701596
Anyone have that absurdly tall imagine (of what I assume is Dwarf Fortress?)
Closer to the top you have dwarves in their little underground fort fighting zombies, setting off traps, flooding rooms, and then further down they've dug so deep these huge monstrosities are climbing out. I've looked for months after seeing it posted here once and can't find it. /r/ hasn't been much help either.
>>322733149
Gotcha'
>>322704803
>tilesets
>>322701596
>function
>y-axis overlap
>>322711783
That fucking Goldar fight kicked my ass when I was younger
>>322733586
I like that bird thing.
>>322712731
Hahaha, people like you crack me up. DFs UI is seriously the most easy to use shit in existence, but it also work like a massive casual filter to weed out plebs. I love it.
>>322734330
Time starts to go backwards after you play dwarf fortress.
>>322735185
>I feed my superiority complex through playing video games
You're an accomplishment-less shut in. You're parents feel sad for you. You barely have any friends. You're a virginthis one probably stings the least since you don't know what youre missing
>>322707105
>SotS:The pit
Oh god, thank you for reminding me that 2 exists, dipshit.
>>322709303
Why wouldn't you have mental issues though?
>>322734330
nowhere does it specify "function"
>>322701596
>>322703184
>le "dwarf fortress is hard but i still play it so i'm a patrician" meme
Dig a hole, build a bridge and you've won
