is it any good?
Yes. Online is good too.
>>322347543
Well everyone says it is. Would /v/ lie to you?
>>322347543
Yes, but it is extremely shallow.
MP is really good tho
>>322347819
You can trust /v/ when it comes to backhanded compliments though.
Example: Mount and Blade is pretty good, when it's modded.
>>322347543
I played it for the first time earlier in a 100v100 siege on multiplayer. Shit was 10/10
>>322348371
that feel when aus servers rarely have enough to play a proper siege.
Hopefully bannerlord brings some fresh noobs for my sword.
>>322347819
everyone says Pillars of Eternity is good too other than /v/
>>322347543
fire&sword best m&b
it's pretty good
don't get viking conquest unless you hate life
>>322347543
Only if you play Anno Domini 1257 mod. It's so good that it's not even available in Steam workshop, because they changed the game too much. All other mods and vanilla are just a cup of coffee compared to this pound of cocaine.
>>322347543
It's great. Haven't played multiplayer though.
>>322347543
>be me, playin' mod because vanilla sucks
>Lord of Norwich and Norwich castle, Kindom of England
>France is invading the southern coast, laying waste to my fief
>Giant french army heading towards London
>Gaelic Kingdoms attacking Dublin and it's surroundings
>Stinky Welsh blanket arses raiding in Westengland
>Vikings and Scots coming from the North
>3 English Lords went on a crusade to the Holy Land, getting kebabed by the Mamelukes
>His retarded majesty Henry III decides to hold a banquet in Chester, with all his vassals
>England is burning
>mfw
>>322350089
Is 1257 that different? I played a few battles but didn't note anything different from the core game.
>tfw actually bought the beta back in 2007
>even back then mods like Onin No Ran and The Last Days already exists
An "early access" game that I didn't regret backing.
>>322347543
It's clunky as fuck why would anyone enjoy this amateur crap?
As you can probably gather by now op, the base game is so good and modular in nature, that there are so many different mods that overhauls the game, and different people find different mods to be the most fun.
I personally prefer the overhaul mods that remain in the native setting rather than the mods that changes the setting such as Anno Domini 1257, that said Anno Domini 1257 and Viking Conquest are really fucking fun to play regardless.
In fact I'm craving some Viking Conquest I feel like.
>>322350427
The AI is much smarter in AD1257. Horse Archers actually actively circle around the main body of the opposing army while shooting at them. Infantry forms small blobs and make sure to move at the same time as small units.
It's a good game but ut gets repetitve and swallow pretty soon IMO.
At least I felt like there comes a time where you have done everything in the commoner level (Winning tourneaments, getting a sizeable troop, etc) but getting into the noble/king tier is a hassle, so the game just kinda stops being fun.
>>322349353
I saw they did a huge patch a while ago..
Is it good now?
>>322350427
Well the whole setup is different. They invented a lot of option details and made the whole kingdom system more realistic. There's also a new recruitment system and tons of very different units and weapons.
And the world map ofc, it's the whole fucking known world in the year of 1257, from Ireland to Siberia, with every lords, kings and ladies being named historically correct.
And the crusade system ofc, it's great.
Also the KI is much better, turkic, mongolian and muslim horse archers are a real pain in the ass now. Just like they really were.
>>322349427
Can vouch for this too. That shit is goddamn impressive, on par with legendary mods like The Last Days, way above the usual "floris+reskined native" mods that seem to be the norm. Only thing I dont like are the menu illustrations, they seem very amateurish (excluding the maciejowski bible obviously).
>>322347543
My experience
>what the fuck is this shit
>jesus the combat is awful
>the graphics are shit lol
>too many leters this is boring
And now is my most played steam game
>>322350749
>>322350673
Thanks. Any advice for when I try again?
>>322350573
This desu.
As great as mods as the Game of Thrones A clash of kings mod (for example) are, the vanilla setting has its charme too.
I spend most of my 690 hours with the Floris mod because that one only adds new features, but isnt changing the whole map or the factions.
How the fuck do I sustain the costs of a 100+ army of people?
These fuckers are costing me 1-2k a week, and I can hardly sustain it.
WHat exactly should I do boize?
>>322347543
yes
>>322350749
With such a huge map; how demanding is it?
>>322350968
not amateur stylized dude
>>322350427
Oh, and i forgot the trade system. You can improve your villages up to the construction of whole new towns, collect taxes, establish trade with other towns and kingdoms, set up peasant armies, build monasteries, etc.
You can also buy different enterprises in towns and produce your own goods to trade or improve other enterprises/selfmade towns.
It's really great
>>322351071
Yeah do some trading, learn what goods are sold for cheap in what countries, and where they sell for good money. Invest money into your manor.
>>322351232
Can't tell for sure, but it shouldn't be a problem if Warband is no problem.
>>322347543
it changed how see the games
so yes its very worth it
also
fire and sword is best m&B
>>322351232
Not that demanding. A toaster could run it at 90% if not a bit more.
>>322351152
You should have made dyeworks for good money. Pays for itself in three weeks.
>>322351270
Fuck trading, go hunt pirates and sell the loot
>>322351257
The visuals absolutely fuck my 960. I wish I could have 400 people at once, but I can only manage maybe 200 maxed.
>>322351152
Easy:
Buy properties in each cites. Dyeworks usually (in vanilla that is, mods often change that) bring the most income.
Also get that prisoner management high enough and keep selling slaves.
Later, capture enemy lords and ransom them to get even more.
If you start a new game:
Play around a while until you can take on sea raiders without big trouble
Farm sea raiders until you have 10k gold
Buy first dyeworks
continue farming sea raiders
Buy next dyeworks
etc.
After a while your weekly income will easily pay your army and the amount of money coming from sea raider slaves and loot is less important.
>>322349427
>played AD 1257 a year ago
>a few hundred days into my save
>script errors clog my in-game logs
>eventually my save just shits itself from all the script errors
didn't the AD devs release a "final" version and then just leave
>>322351443
The trading is not too complex and a good way to spend time and money while waiting for your retard faggot marshal to finally start a new attack.
It's real fun and brings lots of gold when you have 1 or 2 manors and a few enterprises.
Also there's not that many pirates anymore in anno domini.
what is currently the best mod for me play while using Wardruna as my soundtrack and going full pagan warrior on innocent people with?
>>322351331
Well, vanilla warband and some other mods do run on my system, but what you guys describe sounds like a map probably 100 times bigger
>>322351680
Viking conquest, what else. Funny as Wardruna was my soundtrack during the whole campaign.
Or Anno Domini 1257 as Danish or Norwegian, very entertaining.
>>322351771
haven't played the game in ages, figured I'd ask. Viking conquest is the official dlc right?
>>322351748
It's big, but not too big. Pic is Europe (as you probably noticed), about 1/3 or /4 of the map.
>>322351071
If you select the lance recruitment mode you can hire a mercenary group for 1000 bucks at any tavern (and their wages are low too) and hunt mountain bandits and pirates. Pirates in particular give excellent loot and you'll end up kitted in full mail armor after a few battles.
>>322351878
Yes. I played pirated Warband for years cuz no moneys, but recently got the whole M&B series for a few euros on Steam. Viking conquest was included, so i guess it's the official dlc. Really great btw.
Absolutely.
Having blast on Napoleonic expansion.
The melee combat is just fun for me, and I like using musket and some other shit.
This thing can run on toaster and can tolerate huge latency in online multiplayer, even it doesn't has loading screen except on the beginning.
The native single player mode is quite boring actually. Is there any single player module for Napoleonic Wars?
>tfw 250 men strong army
>they are all slavers
the joy of selling thousands of troops to slavery of sucking cock in faraway lands
>>322351680
Viking Conquest. Why would you even ask.
>>322351913
Thanks, bro.
>>322352056
>me on my horse
>my men on miniature elephants
It's a good sight.
Do you think Bannerlord will be released this year? I pretty much got all that I can out of Warband.
>>322351987
>>322352089
Ok, I thought it was received poorly but I see that it has many updates since release that made it better. Ok, thanks for the help. Gonna get my Wardruna on tonight. Any mods to enhance the DLC's experience?
>>322352014
There is but it's so fucking tedious to set up, or it still has some game breaking bugs. Other than that imagine bot siege when you get your army big enough or Fire and Sword when roaming around by yourself. The A.I is pretty decent and there's so much shit wear or get.
For anyone who wants to have huge ass battles in any mod with minimal loss in graphics quality I recommend this tool: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12801/?
M&B uses the same files as Skyrim for textures (DDS). Backup the textures folder and let that program do its thing, you'll get the most out of it by reducing the size of fuckhuge textures (1024x1024 is the best quality-performance deal). It also helps by reducing crashes in big mods.
>>322352218
YES YES IT WILL
>>322352231
None that I know of. I read about many bugs in different reviews, but i actually didn't encounter a single one. And i played the campaign twice, with lots of fun in sandboxing after. Not a single crash or bug. They must have done a good job on the updates.
>>322347543
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYTRsEtqKps
>>322351895
>3 cities in italy
eastern_european_devs.jpg
>>322351257
that sounds fucking cool
>>322352442
It's just 1/3 or maybe even /4 of the map, read the fucking post. There's a lot more cities and villages in Italy.
>>322352442
>post you replied to specifically said "1/3 of the map"
>>322352442
>implying anyone knows of cities that aren't Rome, Milan or Genoa
>>322347543
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ_E5SC1OB0
>>322352442
At least they included wuerzburg, my hometown :3
I guess i have to play this and become its lord.
>>322352218
No.It's never coming out.
>>322352442
There are more in central and southern Italy. Fighting as a mercenary in Italy is good for levelling because they're a bunch of small factions constantly at eachothers throats.
>alright I'm gonna make a horse archer because everyone says it gets OP at the end
>can barely even kill a looter myself
>say fuck it and start over as a lance rider
>>322351552
>tfw can't buy dyeworks because guild masters always say the lord doesn't like me even if I have neutral or positive relation
>>322349427
>come find me at the skirmish at the wall if u want an ass kicking
>>322352636
It's also the best place to start your own kingdom, because Alps, sea, and small ass kingdoms.
Starting your own next to England, France, Mamelukes or the Khanates is suicide, even with tons of right to rule.
>>322352638
>be lancer
>get dumped on because a tiny fern blocked my horse
Crossbows and thrown weapons are 2fun. I played horse archer once or twice and had more or less the same impression as you, though.
>>322352797
I shall start the great slav empire and never actually expand one I've gathered all the slavs.
>>322352864
>>322352638
horse archer sucks at beginning, you actually gotta level up your archery skills and practice at training fields.
after that you become death, destroyer of feasts
>>322352760
Try another city with another owner or do quests for that lord and improve your relation
>>322352638
>>322352864
Horse archery is great in Vanilla, cuz simpler archery mechanics. In 1257ad it's much harder, and only usefull in combat when you're have tons of skill points in archery and horse archery. Even if you do, thrown weapons or melee are still more effective when sitting on a horse.
But AI controlled horse archers are the fucking shit
>>322352638
Git gudand experience the phenomena that is the murder trance.
>>322352797
I started a kingdom in the holy land by rebelling against the Crusader states. Crusader states and Mamluks are now longgone, while the Il Khanate fought me once and then quickly backed out. Now I'm just in a perpetual war with the Pope who have has no force projection, I my vassals just burn Italy 24/7. Everyone else ignores me and nation of misfits and traitors.
>>322348245
I like the base game.
>>322353142
>pleb
get out
>>322353004
I've tried it with multiple cities with different owners and it never works.
What are some mods that are essential that don't change up the gameplay, mechanics or map? I want some really fucking cool shit
>>322353225
You should be grateful, if people didn't they wouldn't have made mods for it.
>>322353403
>don't change up the gameplay, mechanics or map
>some really fucking cool shit
choose one
>>322353432
Yeah, you're right. I actually fell in love with Warband vanilla when I first played it, untill I discovered the shitton of mods available and especially 1257AD.
Like posted before, it's a pound of cocaine compared to a cup of coffee.
>>322353476
I'm talking shit like enhanced graphics, atmospheric weather effects and cool visuals and shit.
>>322353403
I guess Diplomacy is ok for that. If not, Native Expansion is the next best thing, but that adds stuff (although I think it can be disabled).
>>322353102
I was also too lazy to fight against the Khanates or Golden horde, all these horse archers make battles too time intensive for me.
>>322353403
>What are some mods that are essential that don't change up the gameplay, mechanics or map
>>322353403
Not really sure what it is you want anon, but;
>Floris
Native + some new stuff
>Silverstag
Native + some different new stuff
>Nova Aetas
Native in the late medieval period + a new continent with natives to oppress and colonise
Google them for more info.
>>322353758
>went on crusade with an infantry and archer based army with small numbers of heavy cav
>it gets shrekt by muslim horse archers
>rebuild it with turkomen horse archers, light cav and crusader heavy cav
>Deus Vult
Where the fuck is Bannerlord? It doesn't even look like that much of a god damned improvement and it's been in development for how many god damn years now? Can't we just classify it as vaporware at this point? I used to play the shit out of the CRPG mod and the SP, but I've completely lost any hope for this.
>>322354136
I think the devs keep changing their mind on the direction they want to take the game.
>The file you have selected (1257AD_1.13.exe) is not available via any mirrors. Please check back shortly as our servers update every 5 minutes. To access more download mirrors we encourage you to join the community, otherwise please be patient and keep trying.
Is there anywhere I can actually download this 1257 mod without signing up for a random website?
>>322354884
just wait shortly i had this too but now i can download
>>322354884
>Moddb
>random website
Come on man, really?
>>322355229
Obviously I've heard of it before, but why would I want to create an account?
I've downloaded mods from there, what, like 3 times over 6 years?
>>322354884
fucking kids can't even use moddb these days
>>322355363
You don't need to create an account to download 1257 AD from Moddb. I've just done it myself.
How would one go about changing the music files for the native or other modules?
>>322355363
>but why would I want to create an account?
So you don't have to wait, the exact thing you're complaining about. Heck, do it with a dummy mail account if you don't want them spamming your mailbox, doesn't take long.
>>322355517
>mute game music
>listen to stuff like Azam Ali, Wardruna and Faun instead
/mbg/ in /vg/ might be able to give you a proper answer.
Without doubt my favorite game ever. Hopefully Bannerlord will take over that.
>Not playing as Griffiths and making Falconia
>Not playing as Gatts and killing a hundred men by yourself
>>322347543
Get this and the Napoleonic Wars expansion. Prepare to drop 2000+ hours into this game.
>join the feast
>>322355937
GOD SHITS ON THE KAISER
>>322355901
Mod when?
>>322355995
Like 6 years ago
>>322352569
>Milan & Genoa
>not Venice & Florence
>always play with waifu in games
>mount & blade punishes hard for playing female character
DROPPED
R
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P
P
E
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never managed to beat a single campaign in this.
>>322356387
Found the casual
>>322356387
Just means you got to prove yourself before King Butter decided to feast on your ass.
>>322356387
>tfw I know people who think this
I haven't played AD 1257 in a long time but I remember being turned off at how there's only like 2 lords in every faction
Is it still like that?
>>322347543
Is the game of thrones mod any good?
>>322356559
No, it's not. Unless you play Kingdoms like Wales or Genova, which only have 1 town and 1 castle anyways. England has about 20 of them, it depends on the size of the nation and the historical context ofc.
>>322356617
It's alright I guess.
>>322356387
Suck it up, faggot
>>322356617
It's made by a stupid cunt.
>You find a bush of berries in the woods will you eat one
Yes
>The berries were poison, loose 3 strength.
No
>Your men laugh at your for being a coward, loose 3 charisma.
>>322356387
>some lords make sexist comments toward you
>some lords fall in love with you at the drop of a helmet
>a king won't give you a fief until you prove yourself
Not that much of a disadvantage, and it quikcly goes out the window when you've butchered enough plebs.
>>322356559
Only in tiny factions like Wales. The bigger factions have loads.
>>322356617
Yes and no. Overall it's good, but it's creator put in some infuriating features (constantly tripping over, unavoidable random events which cause permanent stat losses, ridiculous troop wages) which an anon is now removing.
>>322356824
those fucking hands
>>322356824
Yaoi hands over here
>>322347543
Honestly? It's pretty decent, if not a little shallow. The character building is extremely flexible, allowing for dozens of builds and a lot of customization. The combat is reminiscent of dark souls, only it allows you to choose the directions of your attacks and doesn't have a lock on system. There's a good variety of weapons to choose from and a lot of armour as well, although none are particularly memorable. Perhaps the best part is the sheer freedom you're allowed. You can join a faction, become a pitfighter, be a mercenary or even make a faction of your own and conquer the whole goddamned map. Other positives are that it runs on toasters and has a very solid multiplayer.
Of course there's downsides. The story is non-existent, all of the characters are lifeless and most are pretty much the same, the factions don't have any personality to them and the game lacks in lore. The most glaring of the problems is that aside from fighting and leading armies into battle, there isn't much else to do. Quests are exactly the same which means that you'll have to make up tasks for yourself.
TL;DR: fantastic character creation, combat and level of freedom, but needs more depth.
Mods are fucking epic tho.
>>322347543
I love this game but the morale system makes me wanna throw up.
>>322357587
>game lacks in lore
untrue, your companions give those spiels when you're near a town or such
>>322350427
What I actually enjoyed the most is the importance of armour in the mod.
Most infantry and peseants only wear leather or fabric and are easily put down, the ones wearing mail are way harder to hurt. Due to AI changes, weak units always stay in one big block, what makes them harder to approach.
Knights in mail are almost totally resistent to arcs and almost overpowered, with their armoured horses. They also look fucking cool, but have extremly high wages.
I always enjoyed having a highly expensive army of 50 mounted knights, awesome feeling to fight armies of x5 that size. But almost impossible to get a good profit with that, so it's only possible when you've been playing a while and have lots of enterprises/manors running.
>this exists
http://www.moddb.com/mods/hotd-warband
>>322357804
Yeah, but none of it really grips you. I can respect the game for staying away from shit like dragons or elves, but nothing is particularly memorable.
>>322357967
Makes me sick to think of the fact that there's people out there actually spending their time to develop this shit.
wtf world
same scum using the term "waifu"
>>322358070
i dunno, Firentis talking about the history of the Calradic Empire and how Swadia is the closest relative to it was pretty neat
Wasn't there a mod that let you literally rape villagers? iirc it's not in english
>>322357967
What the hell.
it's ok
>>322347543
>improve 2h combat skill
>get 2h battleaxe
>only use to hit from above
>be totally covered in blood 99% of time
>become a god
That's what I call OP, almost destroyed the game for me as it was hard to do ANYTHING else in combat
>>322358669
>Walloon flag
I like it.
>>322358736
my weaponfu
>>322358214
They could've expanded on it so much more. There's anecdotes on the different factions in the status menu and the characters have snippets of dialogue here and there but that's it. It would've been better if you were gradually given more on the factions as your allegiances grew with them. Their origins, why they do what they do, their beliefs and goals, that sort of shit. I'm not asking for lore on the level Dragon Age or Planescape Torment, nor would I want that. M&B has always put gameplay before story, as it should. I just think it could do with something a little more substantial.
Is there anything more jewey than collecting taxes for a lord and keeping them for yourself?
>>322359209
Bear in mind how small Talewords was back then.
