Who is the video game industry Orson Welles?
>>322283435
Chris Avellone
Gaben
Made something great, revolutionized the industry, got fat and became a joke and died
Don't see why anybody should pretend to find Orson Welles impressive in this day and age who isn't a nostalgic 80 year old. Citizen Kane is a boring movie.
>>322283635
damn that's pretty accurate
>>322283635
name one great thing Gabe has made that isn't a meme FPS
>>322283728
trying too hard
>>322283728
Nobody should. Unless the only movies you've ever seen are Birth of a Nation and Battleship Potemkin, you shouldn't really be impressed by Citizen Kane
>>322283728
18+
>>322283904
Steam.
>>322283904
half life, half life 2, tf2, and portal are all excellent games
been 9 years since the last of those came out though
>>322283904
GoldSrc
Steam
Source
>>322283728
i always thought it was praised so much because it was very controversial at the time given who the movie is actually about
>>322284084
>vendor lock-in is great
>>322284210
It's not "great" in the positive sense of the word, but it has revolutionized the industry through how people perceive digital distribution, same way as Citizen Kane changed the way people saw cinematography.
>>322284206
The filming techniques were revolutionary at the time, but commonplace, if not outdated, by today's standards. Nobody can really appreciate it if they weren't there at the time. Anyone who pretends to is a butthole. Today, Citizen Kane should only be thought of as an important but boring technical achievement, like the the Chicago Home Insurance Building
>>322284620
you really found it dull? I thought its style of framing all the scenes as flashbacks being relayed to the interviewer was pretty engaging.
>/v/ discussing film
>>322284864
I really really like Mastroianni.
>>322284470
Digital distribution was an inevitability, it did not take a visionary genius.
And don't forget that everyone despised Steam for half a decade. They didn't stand in awe of it from day one, it wasn't until years later when they started giving ridiculous discounts during sales, discounts that many people have convincingly argued have done long term damage to the industry. And then the retarded meme shit started.
>>322285090
>Digital distribution was an inevitability
it really only seems that way in hindsight
>>322283435Yoshiaki Koizumi
Peter Molyneux
Who is the video game industry Homer?
>>322283435
>>322285313
That guy who made asteroids?
>>322284057
Nice try. Nobody less than 70 years old should have any attachment to Citizen Kane unless they are completely unable to form opinions and instead just conform to the respected "meme-thought".
>>322285425
>do something absolutely generic
>orson welles
>>322285197
Are you serious? You think digital distribution over the internet would not have been a thing except for the existence of Steam and Valve?
>>322285313
allan alcorn
>>322285462
Or maybe they are able to understand the context in which a work of art has been made, and through that give a fitting analisys of its value.
>>322285534
>>322285554
there was much talk in the mid-late 90s about how internet businesses were going to completely replace brick and mortar retail yet nearly all of those companies disappeared in the bubble
>>322285462
Jesus fuck you are uneducated. It doesn't matter if you do enjoy the movie or not, it is objectively an important movie for the way it innovated and changed the film industry. Do some research on it.
>>322285554
Not him but everything around us can be considered an "inevitability" if you choose to have that attitude. By your logic we shouldn't care about the Wright brothers since flight was inevitable.
>>322283904
hl hl2 and steam were all revolutionary. just because youre 12 years old and werent around to see their impact on the indistry firsthand doesnt nullify their significance you fucking retard
>>322285554
what fucking retarded logic
>>322285828
That has nothing to do with it. There was a market crash because of over investment in e-commerce.
The biggest barrier to digital distribution was the technology. You couldn't realistically distribute games that came on 700MB CDs over 56k modems, it took literally a week to download a game. The technology improved and as a result digital distribution became technically feasible and therefore inevitable.
>>322285090
>electricity was inevitable
>Frankenstein's work was not important
>>322285884
>>322285628
>it is objectively an important movie for the way it innovated and changed the film industry
If you praise things from a completely detatched perspective where you praise what culture has deemed "important" over what appeals to you on a direct emotional level then you're a fucking piece of shit drone. I never even brought "good" and "bad" into it. I said if you have an attachment to it then you are a phony who has nothing in his mind but second hand memes.
I have more memories of the Maurice LaMarche joke version of Orson Welles than Welles himself
>>322286332
if that's true then why has b+m retail for pc completely disappeared while it's alive and well for consoles which are all hooked up to the same internet?
>>322286406
You are bunching together two completely different replies from two completely different persons.
Preservation of history and advancement of art and culture is based upon understanding what the past taught us. Citizen Kane was, objectively, a stepping stone in cinematography and that's why people praise it to this day. Enjoyment of that movie to a modern audience or the lack thereof is not ground to lessen the impact it had at the time.
What video game industry elite has been drunk on a TV commercial set?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvxwf1jxdaM
>>322285628
Except literally nobody who talks about Citizen Kane in 2015 has done a second of "analysis" and is just parroting film "expert" opinions.
>>322286694
ever seen Touch of Evil? One of my favorite movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg8MqjoFvy4
>>322286960
Consider you might only talk to mouthbreathers.
>>322286960
Not him, but people can't help but parrot the experts when at this point the movie has been out so long that everything from an analytical view of the movie that can be said, has been said.
>>322286960
you're a fucking snob
>>322283615
He have made some really great games, but I don't quite realize how his work on Fallout left a important mark in the industry as a whole.
>>322285278
He is way too successful and stable to be considered Orson Welles.
>>322286694THEY'RE EVEN BETTER RAW
>>322286694
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i7ycxiog40
>>322283435
The Philadelphia Eagles.
>>322283435
Whats the deal with his son
>>322286952
I have even more admiration for him now.
>>322287074
That's my point. Gushing over Citizen Kane in 2015 is a definite sign that one may be an 17 year old fedora enthusiast because everything that can possibly be said about it has already been said.
>>322283435
War0wl
>>322287402
I fail to see how he isn't the analogue though. Koizumi pushed games as medium beyond film using his understanding of both in much the same way Welles pushed cinema beyond the stage.
>>322283435
John Romero
>>322289635
It's 2016 fool.
Carmack.
>Did some revolutionary work.
>Mad hipster cred.
>People often cite their work as a landmark or cornerstone for the medium.
>Completely washed up and useless, utterly out of touch in their later career.
>Praised as innovators even though their best work is basically shit compared to modern medium.
>Still receive unwarranted praise, in an appeal to pioneering and innovation.
>>322289959
I see. So you would say that Ocarina of Time is akin to video games what Citizen Kane is to cinema?
>>322290801
>Carmack
>Best work basically shit compared to modern medium
>Doom basically shit
You are either baiting or underage. Doom is still a pretty great game.
>>322291225
Yes, and I'd say that it, along with Majora's Mask, is essentially the closest thing to an equivalent in that regard.
Warren Spector
David Cage
>>322291559
It's shit m8
There's no Orson Wells in videogames, I wouldn't say David cage since his games are more like visual novels like actual games, the best game-story interaction I've experienced has been Spec Ops: The Line and the creator doesn't have such a great background... simply there's no Orson Wells but there's are some Tarantinos there.
>>322284864
Is that La Dolce Vita? Fuck, I want to rewatch that now.
>>322283909
IMO, you should not feel bad for criticizing "classics".
For instance, I don't consider A Farewell to Arms (or really anything from Hemmingway) to be high literature. He is far too engrossed with writing long, boring conversations between characters.
>>322290110
That could a good one.
I'm thinking Molyneux, though.
