>Open world game has a 'forest' in it
>It looks like this
Why do so few games have actual forests? Iy's always just sparsely scattered trees,
consoles cant handle it. There isnt some elaborate complex answer, try thinking about things for more than one second.
To be fair, if the trees were as dense as a real forest, it would be pretty clunky trying to move around in that area. I'm just imaging a lot of your character bumping into things and having the edges of your hitbox get "stuck" on trees.
I look forward to Kingdom Come: Deliverance. It so far seems to have a decent depiction of European terrain.
>>322274897
You could have main and paths and some secondary paths. If it was as dense you would also have god tier hiding and ambush spots.
Miasmata has some relatively dense forest areas.
>>322274343
There are mods but they drain your FPS
>>322276041
This looks comfy
>>322275312
holy shit yuropoor , mow your fucking grass
>>322276195
It is, most of the time. But then it gets all tense because you tumbled down a hill at night, fell down and lost the vital ingredient and torch you were holding, are suddenly in an area you haven't mapped yet, and then you hear your heart beating...
It's a pretty great game though.
my time to shine
>>322274897
Worked out pretty well in Witcher 3
>>322276512
check out how the wind deforms the tree, and how it is growing at a slant due to gravity
>>322274343
Crazy amount of objects and textures cause frame rates to plummet. Plus as other anons suggest it's probably not all that great to navigate around, collision nightmare.
>>322274343
Trees are costly to render.
It's a shame, but the technology to accurately render a realistic world isn't there yet.
More than just with trees, taking Bethesda games as examples, though these traits are common throughout the vidya world, an entire country or large part of an American state is just a 6 minutes sprint from one corner to the other. Cities and towns become barely hamlets with a couple of shops and houses. Supposedly giant mountains become hills climbable in a few minutes. The game world is a caricature or a representative version of a realistic world, cities represent realistic cities, but in the interest of development time and technical limitations everything's scaled down and becomes a bizarre parody of reality.
>>322276195
It is, until big cat thing starts hunting you.
>>322274343
>Guild Wars 2 addon
>takes place in a jungle
>maps have arround 2 or 3 big trees on the map
Stranglethorn Vale was more a jungle than this crap.
>>322276512
>>322276556
>>322276680
As a a north-euro-fag I've gotta say, Witcher 3 really delivered in wilderness design.
9
YEARS
OLD
>>322277041
thats a jungle faggot not a forest
>>322276991
Honestly I just want to spend a few years traveling through europe and backpacking and exploring the wilderness.
Too bad I'm poor as shit and can't afford to quit my job and fly to europe.
Anyone else sad that the forest areas in Battlefront were comfy as fuck and incredibly realised but the rest of the game is such a terrible mess
>>322277273
I mean yeah, that game has set the standard for visuals this gen. But, aesthetics only go so far.
>>322275312
you wont be able to actually get past those trees, there will be an invisible wall.
the forest outside of Flotsam in Witcher 2.
It's funny how people always cherrypick this area whenever they show off Witcher 2's graphics. It is by-far the best looking area in the game and everywhere else in the game looks mediocre.
ARMA 2 did best forests.
A screen I took sometime in the past.
>>322277273
All the environments in this game look amazing. Shame the limited development time and a few bad design choices hampered the game.
>>322274343
if the trees were maybe 3 times that size it would look a lot better
>>322276556
That isnt even close to dense
May as well ask here since people are posting about it. If you mod TW3 so you play as Ciri during the main game how do quests work? Can you just not do them, or can you do them but Ciri speaks with Geralts voice in them?
>>322277729
The development time wasn't limited, they just decided to spend most of it making the visuals and sound as good as possible.
>>322277480
>>322277729
If they had literally spent a bit of time designing a single player campaign with galactic conquest and space battles, it might have been GOTY
Well maybe not GOTY but at least a good Star Wars game.
>>322277702
Yeah, I'm really glad they went Mediterranean for 3 because it involves some small forest areas, at least.
The Pacific expansion is going to be pimp as fuck.
>>322277852
It's as dense as it gets without impeding player movement.
>want a new FPS game that takes place in dense mountainous misty forests like in Russia
>endless Middle Eastern / Urban shit instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ybCrr8c4g
6 months until comfy forests and good first person swordfights
I'm not saying trees and foliage couldn't be vastly improved, but keep in mind that first and foremost, a foirest still needs to be easy to navigate.
If you can't see shit and are constantly stuck between collision meshes, gameplay would suffer and all you gained is better visuals.
There needs to be some balance, and I believe Witcher 3 either hit the sweet spot, or already went too far.
>>322274343
>tw3
inb4 cd red shill
>>322275312
Info on this?
>>322274343
>Skyrim
Install the taller trees mod with the LOD fix, and a dense grass mod, with the immersive creatures mod.
You're welcome.
The woods in some of the maps in red orchestra are pretty comfy. Winterwald comes to mind.
>>322278080
Only because the games movement is trash
>>322277530
I've been in those particular trees in game. There is a herbalists hut in there.
However there is a tree line a few hundred metres behind me in that image that does have an invisible wall surrounding it.
>>322278226
Except literally no one can run it except people with absolutely beast computers
There is only so much optimization can do, but when people with 970s are saying the game struggles to hold a good framerate you know its fucked
I liked the forests in the original operation flashpoint.
Gothic 3 had some pretty good forests.
>>322278307
Nothing beats Bois Jacques in terms of comfiness though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cuz0blOTvM
>>322278493
nice screeny bro
If AO, Adaptation, and blurrs can be turned off, I'm confident I can run this at least at 30 or so fps.
>>322278452
I have a 980ti and I'm worried as well. Give it a year, get it on sale and use some mods/.ini tweaks
>>322275312
How is the gameplay compared to recent titles?
>>322278340
no game could have a fluid enough movement that'd seem natural in a very dense forest.
not only that, but they'd have to check every single nook and cranny in the whole forest for it to work properly, and that's a lot of work when you can just have a slightly less dense forest with a better quality control
>>322277650
Hey now. I loved Vergen!
>>322278226
All I see is porn for mindless graphic whores.
Where is the combat / other rpg aspects?
>>322278226
>>322278452
Idk if this is a joke, but this nigger is running it on a gtx 660
>>322277106
Not all forrests are jungles, but all jungles are forrest.fuck you
Gotta love the forests in Witcher 3
>>322278718
Considering it came out nearly 15 years ago, the game looks fine.
>>322278913
>Where is the combat / other rpg aspects?
In a video that's not supposed to show graphics but... I don't know, combat or other gameplay apsects maybe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0sK7Xqfvpc
>>322278913
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4Eq2na6neI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0sK7Xqfvpc
These two vids are good at explaining the game.
>>322277919
and that's all we really asked for.
i mean, add in like 5 maps, galactic conquest with space battles, and i definitively would have bought it, it's all i wanted.
>mfw battlefront 3 was 99% ready before it was canned and recycled into the mess we have
fuck everything
>>322279347
>>322279315
Looks neat.
Like the helmet effect.
>>322274343
>forest level
>it just looks like hickok45's compound
>>322278226
Needs better ambient sound.
>>322274343
Gothic 3 still has the best forest of any game I've played. Deep, dense vegetation. Knee-high, torso-high grasses and weeds of all kind. Floor texture is more dead leaves and dirt than grass. Different models of trees, with large and numerous leaf/branch sprites on them. Models of fallen branches and trees littered all over the place. TALL trees, at that. Not like OP pic.
But then Bethesfuck games are not a good starting point to begin with. Everything that company makes is half-assed.
>>322278894
Running in assassins creed has you slide past people in public pretty fluidly. I would imagine an encounter with an object that isn't as dynamic as people in a crowed would be cake?
>>322279734
Is Gothic 3 a good RPG?
>>322279776
I love it, but be sure to install the latest community patch, cause it had a disastrously unfinished/buggy launch.
>>322279462
>you will never shoot watermelons with hickok
>>322279435
>you will never play the trench run from A New Hope in current gen visuals as The Battle of Yavin bellows from your speakers
literally why even live
Witcher 3 has good looking forests. Especially from the mission woodland spirit.
>>322279776
Not him, but it's decent. Not as good as 1 or 2 for the most part. They went for a much larger world, but as a result everything feels less fleshed out.
>>322275650
Good point. I think the control system would have to be made specifically for that type of game though. Like, I can't see you sticking a particularly dense forest with foliage and everything else into any currently-existing control scheme and not have it feel weird and hard to navigate.
>>322274343
Because anything under a $3,000 PC can't handle any better and 99% of people who play games don't have that.
>>322275312
The Europeans, the founding stock.
>>322276991
thats cuz it was made by polacks anon-kun
>>322278901
>the faggot elf get the more interesting area and funner route
still slightly asspained
>>322276870
>Trees are costly to render.
no they aren't.
>>322278849
shit.
When they do make dense forests/woods it becomes a liner path to follow.
>>322280796
this
>>322278227
because of this
>>322277702
It got the scale right, but too bad its all clear cut.
![eada4b11-8b88-498e-93be-14ce5106d0b2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RWOJzFL.jpg "eada4b11-8b88-498e-93be-14ce5106d0b2[1].jpg")
>>322274343
The one game that I can think that really dead density right for trees/foliage, was the jungle in Mortal Online.
Fuck, you could get lost there for hours. Loved how the game had no in game map, compass or minimap. Had to actually know where you were going.
>>322277198
We got dragons over here as well.
>>322276870
The heck's this guy saying.
A tree isn't hard to render in any way.
>>322279925
>there will never be a straight adaptation of the original trilogy with Battlefront's visuals
Why the fuck are the only things to do this are Lego, Disney Infinity and the SNES/NES platformers?
Same goes for Indiana Jones and Lord of the Rings.
>>322278709
Wow the sound in that game is really good.
>Not modding your forests
>>322284593
>>322274343
the textures look like stomach lining
>>322277702
man, i just wish the draw distance in the armas was better. i hate thinking im hiding in tall grass only to be just laying of a big green texture on the other persons screen.
>>322284893
I don't know why devs think it's acceptable to not put draw distance and LOD distance in a games options.
In FPS with big maps it's fucking game breaking in instances like you said. It's especially bad when you play old games and the LOD distance is fucking pitiful and if the option was there you could have extended it out so much further with no frame dips at all.
Minecraft has had the more dense forests i've seen, especislly the dark oak ones
>>322278226
The combat is shit though
>>322279613
What? The ambient sound is almost perfect. I dont know what forests you've been in but there isn't a lot going on sounds wise in real life.
>>322277198
If you are a wilderness and hystorical places, you are missing out. Italy is full of incredible paesages.
Skyrim Bigger Trees
Arma, Flashpoint, Kingdom Come - all from Czech.
Czech confirmed for forest fetishtists?
>>322287606
That's one of the mods I use.
Having real forests would make the game rather unpleasant and annoying to play in, not to mention the hardware requirements going up a bit and the development time possibly getting tripled in the environment department.
Untouched forests have a lot of uneven grounds and is full of small water pockets, stones, bushes, tree thickets, hills, stumps, fallen branches and trees etc.
Mixed forests have this issue as well as leaf forests, pine forests can be a bit easier to traverse though especially if they are planned ones but there is also the risk of encountering pine tree thickets of smaller/younger trees that are nearly impossible to get through. Final nail in the coffin would be the camera, going third person will be troublesome and first person gives bad orientation + it can be annoying for your eyes.
May as well put up a blank wall beside the roads in a game with realistic forests.
>>322274343
arma 2 did it well
