What is the exact year turn-based combat died?
2006
Isn't Dragon Quest still the second most popular RPG franchise?
>>322187291
>Tfw based Falcom and Atlus keeping Turn-based not only alive, but top-quality
>Compile Heart actually getting better at making games, Fairy Fencer is actually halfway decent and is actually funny
I can't wait for Sen II and SMT IVF
It didn't, but people are trying to employ some sort of double-think to pretend that some of the most well-known RPG franchises aren't turn-based to this day.
>>322187291
>What is Pokémon
>>322187291
It didn't.
>>322188569
I'm talking about old school turn-based combat. You know, characters always standing next to each other while waiting their turn. Not this "moving around for the sake of reality" bullshit like in FF13.
>>322187291
ff13 the realisation
It didn't. Civilization is incredibly popular despite being turn based. It is jrpgs that died.
>Turn based
>good
>>322188819
That didn't either. Bravely Default, Pokémon and and Persona still keep the fixed position. I'm not sure if Dragon Quest does too, though.
>>322188791
>Literally Edge: The Character
I love him so much, he's such an ass.
>>322188819
Lots of games still do that, at least. Only the more mainstream crap likes Tales Of and FF are going full Action, and Tales went full Action years ago anyway.
>>322187291
but it never died
When using cure and attack to beat FF games became boring.
>>322188889
>It is jrpgs that died
Nah, it's because of the "We want the closet-weeb casual crowd" audience that loves crap like Kingdom Hearts and Advent Children.
Luckily, I haven't enjoyed mainline FF for years anyway, so it's no loss for me.
Turn based died when Kingdom Hearts came out.
My friend hates KH claiming it killed RPG's
>>322189095
Though I'm assuming you're talking about games other than FF, hasn't FF always been casual?
>most of jap RPGs are turn based
>best western RPG of the past 3 years is turn based
It seems to be doing fine
>>322187837
this
>>322189046
Yep, now you just roll and press the attack button.
See, I can strawman genres too.
>>322189284
Pretty much, but games like FF V and X are comfy as fuck to play, and games like IV, VI, VII-IX are always good if you want some story.
>>322187824
Out of idle interest, what's the third one? SMT/Persona? Does something like fire emblem count?
>>322188968
>>Literally Edge: The Character
>His name is Dante.
I pity the people who can't just enjoy both types of games
>>322189690
I pity the people who have such low standards that they find typical JRPG combat as good as any action game.
>>322189384
This was literally my experience playing crisis core
>first couple of encounters
"Wow this is pretty rough, is defending even worth doing?"
>roll through some attack
"Oh shit,that works? Why would I ever use defend when I can just roll?"
>roll through every attack from then on, never die
Except for the limit break esque undodgable attacks.
>>322189653
>Black and Red colour scheme
>Blood Knight
>Enjoys skewering innocent civilians
>Jokes about the MC's mother while she's crystallized in front of his eyes and tells him how much he will enjoy murdering his sister and then him afterwards
If he was any edgier my 3DS might cut me.
>>322189860
Kingdom Hearts in a nutshell.
Which is why watching a KH2 fan play KH Days is fucking hilarious.
>Fucking stupid game, not allowing infinite dodge
>What do you mean, I have to block attacks
>Why is my magic and items limited by my build?
Turn based games are doing fine. one awesome looking one comes out in 36days in fact.
>>322189797
Not him, but you know one can enjoy them both, right? As opposed to being a fanboy of one or the other?
>>322190184
>Kill snek
>Terrorism
>Fucking laser machetes
Fuck, I can't wait.
How do you make turn based standard rpg combat interesting?
>>322190184
Post snek pls
>>322190189
I'm not a 'fanboy', I just recognise that turn based JRPGs are shit at gameplay in general. If something that had more depth than Pokemon came out, I'm sure I'd love it, but that hasn't happened. Considering them both worthy now would be an insult to the ones that are actually good.
>FF stops being turn based
>WHEN DID TURN BASED DIE XD XD!!
Kill yourself. People who think Square are the only people who make jrpgs sicken me. On the same level as people who buy every version of COD and think shooters that are unrealistic are stupid. You're on that same level.
>>322190275
You won't get an actual answer here.
>>322190275
I don't feel that turn-based combat is boring, it's a matter of opinion.
>>322190263
Not long now. Being terrorist cowboys killing alien scum is going to take over my life.
>>322189285
OP's gaming experience is limited. Turn based never died. A good turn based system is just harder to develop than a action one. FF and other SE JRPGs were never good at creating turn based combat anyway. Waiting for a bar to fill up to press X was not any better or deeper than just spamming X in real time.
>>322188968
I'd have maxed him if I weren't doing Lisette and Hilda.
I'd be playing NG+ right now if I hadn't busted my system, though...
>>322189285
Most JRPGs have been real-time since few years already.
>>322188791
>nukes
>warp movement
>Transfer
>Time Compress
Holy shit, it's so satifying when you finally get to play as Hilda.
>>322189860
My experience playing crisis core was MODULATING PHASE MODULATING PHASE MODULATING PHASE I'M TRYING I'M TRYING
>>322190912
>can't skip the thing when the DMW takes up full screen but takes like 20 seconds to do whatever whacky shit it wants to do before it selects the limit break you get
Holy shit, I was so sick of that by the end of the game. Except the quote you picked should have been
>the power of SOLDIER
because I swear it's in half the limit breaks
>>322189971
You forgottakes pride on his housework.
Probably when this came out, for me at least. Just showed how much better active combat could be.
>>322190905
Or as I like to call her, Flatima.I love how the game was a big mess of Luminous Arc references
>>322191152Even edgelords can be moe and cute
>>322190905
Hilda pretty much never left my deployed party after I got her.
Best unit, hands down, in terms of both power and utility.
Also best waifu.
>>322191136
The quote I picked was the one that annoyed me the most. It made no sense in any context and made Zack into even more of an annoying faggot.
>>322191694
>Best unit
>Best character development
>Best ending
>Loves the main character the most
>Takes up a quarter of the boxart
>Physical edition comes with a huge poster of her
The other girls didn't stand a chance.
>>322191136
>Nomura wanted to market Gackt so much he made him appear the most in Limit Breaks
>>322192086
Nomura had almost nothing to do with Crisis Core.
>>322187419
This.
Not just turn based combat, 2006 marked the death of the video game industry.
Fuck Microsoft.
>>322191694
For me she is tied with Nonoka in both utility and waifu factor. Being that fast and having pretty much 100% accurate ailments is pretty strong.
I'm only talking about playable characters, of course. I would never dare to suggest that Yourma Jesty isn't the best girl.
>>322190728
which games have a good turn based system then?
Don't mind me, just being the greatest turn-based video game ever created, as well as the best CRPG (Canadian RPG).
>>322192001
That's true. The animation was so far off from the dub too. It looks like he's supposed to be screaming coordinates or something, and we get "I'm trying, I'm trying!"
>>322192086
I've heard gackt is so upset about how genesis was portrayed that he refused to license his likeness for CC to appear on psn, which is why it hasn't.
>>322192279
radiant historia
>>322192332
> you know realize that this game came out last milennium
>>322192445
A shame it was so easy. The only hard fight was an extra boss that was a fuckhuge monster you couldn't move around.
>>322192438
Actually that wouldn't at all surprise me if that was in fact due to the piss poor localization. People shit on FF7 for its shoddy translation yet every Square game since than plus Advent Children has been just as unfaithful if not worse.
Localizers who try forcing their own fanfiction on someone else's work are worse scum than the faggots who shove le ebin maymays every other line.
Blame all those people who took turn based combat literally thinking characters canonically fight like that.
>>322190472
I know youre shitposting, but competitive pkmn is pretty deep.
>>322192681
>hurr durr who would keep waiting to take turns in a fight
It's like asking why SF characters don't sidestep to avoid hadoukens.
>>322192015
>That delicious dub voice
She sounds so sweet, it makes me want to hug her every time she speaks.
>>322192254
Nonoka's bretty gud. Shame about what happened to Yourma, she was a great character too.I thought she was gonna betray you, what with LA2 doing that. Oh boy did I feel bad afterwards.
>>322190275
make status effects worth a damn
make buffs/debuffs worth a damn
make even generic enemies somewhat of a struggle
have weaknesses based on items/classes
make useable items beyond the standard healing/curing worth a damn
have some sort of other combat gimmick like radiant historia's push/pull/move on the grid or hoshigami's combos or mario rpg/squall timed button pushes
>>322191586
But... that's still turn-based, it just has timing elements
>>322193079
>make status effects worth a damn
>make buffs/debuffs worth a damn
>make even generic enemies somewhat of a struggle
>make useable items beyond the standard healing/curing worth a damn
Etrian Odyssey series on hard mode?
>>322192545
>Playing 1.12 the other day
>Wonder why my favourite gun (Beretta CX4) isn't in it
>Realize it wasn't invented yet
Pokemon is still around so it's not dead tho.
>>322187291
I still greatly enjoy Turn-based RPGs.
>>322187291
>>322188941
South Park Stick of Truth was one of the most successful games of 2014 and I'd be surprised if The Fractured Butthole didn't do great as well.
