>King Dedede gets his english dub voice
>Bowser getting his sound effects instead of the stock monster effects
Hell anyone getting their correct voice actors or voice packs (Mario/Luigi speaking faux italian like in Mario & Luigi RPG's, DK not sounding like a real gorilla, 64/Melee Link, etc)
>>322026219
give Bowser, DK and Diddy their official canon voices
just give Dedede back his unedited Brawl voice; his Smash 4 voice is literally that but electronically altered to sounds more raspy and demonic
>Fire Emblem gets Blazing Sword representatives
>Shield becomes the most unreliable tool
>>322028040
>just give Dedede back his unedited Brawl voice
Yes, his voice sounds retarded in 4. Fuck the 4Kids voice.
>>322026219
STOP REMINDING ME
>no M&L:BiS Bowser voice
>no SHOWTIME
>no I RULE
>>322026219
>DK not sounding like a real gorilla
Why should this ever happen? He is a gorilla and Scooby Kong is fucking so shit I almost muted Tropical Freeze. Only reason I didn't is because David Wise.
>>322030406
I meant DK not sounding like a real gorilla and instead using his DKC/DK64 voice acting like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abrc9PcK9Cg
A DK stage that is based off something either than the DK Arcade or a jungle.
bucket brakeing comes back
>>322031087
They should just use the old Charles Martinet monkey noises from the N64 Mario Kart/Sports games.
The last thing Smash needs is that god awful 4kids garbage infecting it.
Also, give Marth voice clips that haven't been recycled since Melee.
Paper Mario as a newcomer
Bowser doesn't really have a voice though.
>>322026219
>King Dedede gets his english dub voice
I don't even like the 4kids dub but why do I keep associating that voice with him?
>>322026219
Link's isn't technically "incorrect," considering that it's his TP incarnation now.
>>322031961
Because it's the only instance where you can understand what he says.
Playable Ridley, K Rool, Waluigi, Ashley, Hat Goomba, Bandana Dee, Shovel Knight, Paper Mario, Banjo-Kazooie, Krystal, any F-Zero character other than Falcon, not fucking every game up the ass with Fire Emblem shilling, decloning Ganondorf, improving gameplay instead of degrading it, reviving Snake, reviving Subspace Emmissary or board the platforms or proper target break, ever having heavies be viable contenders.
>>322026219
good gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtGL5yKdSCk
>DK will never sing in smash
Never ever.
>>322028763
>No SHOWTIME! As Bowser enters the stage
Come on Nintendo what are you smoking?
Team Specials done with 2 compatible characters in close proximity; Classic duos like Mario + Luigi (Knockback Bros.) and Donkey Kong + Diddy Kong (DK Barrel Toss?), and then teamups unique to Smash Bros. like Bowser + Ganondorf (Some flashy dual grapple) or Mario + Link (Fire Arrows). Also unique victory animations for those teams.
This would probably bury competitive play but it would be awesome to see something like that.
>>322032952
>I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENIN' TOOO ME
Every fucking time.
>>322033967
oh and I can't forget to add that they have their own taunts too
>>322031087
That sounds like shit.
>>322026219
>King Dedede gets his english dub voice
Why would you even fucking want that? It's terrible and his voice in Smash sounds waaay better. He sounds a lot more intimidating, really. His dub voice made seem like a fucking clown. 4kids was garbage, I grew up with it too but the voices were trash
I like Scooby Kong
>>322034601
>He sounds a lot more retarded
Fixed~
>>322034747
Kill yourself, my man.
>>322034872
>plantation owner Dedede less retarded than a grunting alien sound
>>322033637
that projectile sucks though, tiny damage, really slow, tons of endlag
they'd have to update it in more ways
>>322035084
He sounds cute in 4 shut up
Guys, Sakurai will never change Dedede's voice because he himself voices Dedede.
>>322035361
Read it again anon
>>322026219
another game where playing like a faggot isn't the optimal playstyle
you decide which is better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgvrxkeh9tc
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xewaqtJBGnI
personally I prefer the latter
>>322026219
>Ganondorf will never have a trident and magic attacks
>He will always be slow falcon
>there will never be a real Ganon as a follow up or Black Shadow to take Dorf's moveset
>>322035590
The difference really isn't significant at all. Why are smashfags such whiners?
>>322035909
I'm not whining, I'm still okay with the smash 4 voice. But aren't we allowed to have opinions?
>>322035763
>yfw Roy can do that much damage with one sweetspotted smash attack
Give all talking characters English and Jap VA from a select menu similar to SF4.
> Samus can't shoot her beam and missiles fast.
> Samus can't charge while walking.
> inb4 muh wavedash
> jump cancelled shine
> PORT TOWN WILL NEVER HAVE THE ACTUAL PORT TOWN THEME
> lack of Non-Omega neutral stages with platforms
>>322036009
Not you, the rest of this shitty fucking thread.
>>322036101
Literally no purpose. The game's designed for kids, the only people to use such a feature would be the 1% of the 1% of autistic weeaboos.
>>322034872
>>322035361
omg hell no. his voice now sounds way sexier and more scary. if you find dumbo voices cute than uhhh alrighty then
>MUH 4KIDS
The dub was better though, and changed/censored nothing of note
>Crash and Spyro will never be playable.
>>322036570
What would Crash's moveset be? His recovery would probably be him spinning.. but itd be like dk. idk help me out.
>>322036570
Irrelevant even to the only platform their decent games are on.
>>322035590
it would be nicer if smash 4 dedede didnt sound like they were recording voices in a shoe closet, like the crowd chants.
![rTOKHmn[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/RRGvDpY.png "rTOKHmn[1].png")
>>322036034
reminder
>>322032952
This is legitimately a good song.
>>322037124
Roy's sourspot might as well not exist considering how fucking easy it is to get the sweetspot.
>>322035763
>sword was taunt
>people complain
>sword is part of moveset
>people still complain
>>322033967
>Mac and Ryu bro-fist then they do a combined all-out rush
Dammit anon, I was dreaming about this the other day
>>322037124
It's closer to halfway up the blade (roy main here) but Roy's range is dogshit to compensate.
>>322031964
Yeah but it's not REAL Link unless it panders to MY nostalgia!
![mortal-kombat-x-quan-chi-all-variations-character-render-as-you-command[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xvpMw6M.jpg "mortal-kombat-x-quan-chi-all-variations-character-render-as-you-command[1].jpg")
Instead of custom moves, MKX style character variations that have slightly different specials and attributes, maybe one or two changed normals.
For example, Mario's versions could be Normal (as he usually is), Dr. Mario (with the same attributes and specials as Dr. Mario in Sm4sh), and then Raccoon Mario or something (slightly faster than normal Mario and with better recovery at a cost of weaker moves, ie the opposite of Dr. Mario.)
>>322038024
Honestly anon I'd rather just keep the customs. They accomplish the same thing and are more personalized. Maybe have some presets for people who don't like thinking for themselves.
>>322038024
That would be neat but Sakurai would fuck it up as hard as customs and instead of the variations being balanced trinity they would instead be a scale basically like you posted where there one balanced one and then two extremes.
>>322038024
>>322038193
>>322038287
they shouldn't do either and improve the gameplay mechanics instead. Ryu, bayo, cloud, etc. show that there's a ton of potential not being used. They can add all that other shitty fluff later
>>322038193
I just feel like it'd be easier to balance as well as being a way to clean up some of the clone characters. I dunno man, just thinking out loud here.
Some other ideas for variations:
>Kirby: Normal/Fire/Ice
>Dedede: Normal/Mecha/?
>Wario: Ware/Land/?
Doing that I'm starting to realize it probably would be difficult to have in-character variations for every roster member. Little Mac for example, he's always been pretty much the same.
>>322038553
They're not going to change veterans too much because they "don't want to alienate previous fans". That's the excuse for Captain Ganon.
>>322038593
It'd still end up the same way customs are.
>normal move
>hard hitting but slower version
>weaker but multihit/better recovery
Or worse, windbox city.
>>322038675
actually there's a chance that could happen since Sakurai seems unlikely to want to do another Smash
of course he has been saying that since Melee so it's probably meaningless
>>322038795
yeah, but at least the costume changes would be more interesting and more importantly you'd immediately know what moves your opponent has instead of expecting them to tell you or just figuring it out as you go along
>>322038675
>Zelda U comes out 2016
>Ganondorf final fight has the exact same moveset from Smash
>People can't complain anymore
>The gameplay being made good again
>>322030406
Scooby Kong is the best
>>322040165
no, tim allen goat bleating DK is the best
>>322038024
I would kinda want to see this, but there's nothing wrong with customs either, it's just that they're terribly implemented.
>duck hunt dog doesn't do the classic 8-bit laugh and instead snickers like Muttley
>pac-man does the classic death sound when KO'd in StreetSmash only and not in standard play
pretendo beefs it again
>>322041163
It could be worse. Pac-Man could be the Pac-Man from that one fucking tv show. I think Nintendo did alright.
Sega allowing Nintendo to use Classic Sonic instead o the current one
>>322041163
Does he at least do it in Stamina moide>
>>322038593
>Dedede: Normal/Masked/Possessed or Dark
Or at least have custom moves that are similar to those.
>>322041859
>Dedede's final smash is just come combo instead of Masked Dedede
![dark_dedede_by_twams-d5e5vik[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6rcUbMI.jpg "dark_dedede_by_twams-d5e5vik[1].jpg")
>>322041859
Eye belly possessed dedede in HD would be horrifying.
>>322042271
Wtf? Where is this from?
>>322042357
that's just fan art, he really does get a belly like that in a couple of games though
Kirby 64 is one that comes to mind
>>322042023
The new Dedede final smash was the most disappointing I've seen.But at least it is a bit more effective than his previous one.
>>322042271
Shit would've been awesome to see in Smash.
>>322028040
I personally think Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong are passable, but Bowser really needs his more cartoony voice, especially with Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings in with their normal voices.
>>322036946
Don't even get me started on the crowd chants. They were phoned in and there probably wasn't a real person involved in saying any of them.
>'Marth' is just a modulated 'Fox'
>'Jigglypuff' is just a modulated 'Diddy Kong'
>'Rukina' wasn't even changed for the English release
>'Charizard' isn't even words
There's a reason they hardly play, and its because they suck
>>322043036
I mean, you might be hearing that but I doubt it's true. What reason would they have for recording Fox but not Marth?
>>322043806
>>322043036
Though listening to them I do agree they're all pretty low quality. They didn't even do the unique ones like Ganondorf's fans being only male or Luigi having just a smattering of fans cheering for him.
>>322035590
They both sound like shit, I can't even pick a favorite. God damn it he's not a fucking robot Sakurai, why would you do this to your own creation?
And having your wife voice Kirby was terrible, she sounds so jarringly awful. It just makes me cringe
>>322026219
>mfw Bowser will never say SHOW TIME like in Bowser's Inside Story
Makes me a sad Koopa main.
>>322043806
Because all of them were made by a computer, and with a few tweaks they can be made to sound like anything.
>"Fox! Fox! Fox!"
Muddle the consonants a bit:
>"Fwah! Fwah! Fwah!"
Muddle the volume a bit:
>"fwAH! fwAH! fwAH!"
Now it sounds like Marth to anyone who isn't paying attention, because the vowels are stressed. They also did this for Lucina, because the vowels are the same in both Japanese and English, but they aren't hiding the 'R' as well as they think they are, and the emphasis on the vowels in the Japanese interpretation.
Jigglypuff is the most damning, though:
"Ibby-bah! Ibby-bah!"
'Diddy Kong' with the consonants sawed off. Exact same cheer, just worse.
>>322044458
>Added in 64 because it was an easy mod for Kirby
>Top-tier in Melee
>Almost didn't make it into Brawl. Nerfed heavily instead.
>Slightly buffed, but still useless in Smash 4
>Gets a shoddy crowd cheer
When did Nintendo go from liking to hating Jigglypuff? They can't help that she's a face of the Pokemon franchise.
>>322045201
Sakurai's decisions have little to do with what Nintendo likes or hates.
>>322045201
Jigglypuff is more of a smash character than a pokemon character at this point.
>>322026219
Sakurai voiced DeDeDe himself, so there's no way they're going to replace him in it.
>Mario/Luigi/Peach/Rosa/Wario all voiced in English
>Link/Zelda/Ganondorf get their clips from their games (by Japanese actors)
>Pokemon get their proper VAs based on region
>Monsters are half-assed
>Marth/Roy only speak Japanese because their games were JP-exclusive at the time
>Shulk's voice changes by region because his game was released internationally
>Ryu and Mewtwo, DLC characters, get region-specific voice actors
Meanwhile...
>FF7 was a worldwide phenomenon
>Cloud has had several voice actors in many languages throughout Kingdom Hearts, Advent Children, and spin-off games
>Only voiced in Japanese
>???
>>322033967
>Ryu+Megaman
>Sonic+Bayo
I just realized how much I want this
>>322044187
>Ohmoto is married to Sakurai
that's news to me
>You are now imagining Dedede pounding a tiny nature goddess loli
![530152078309b3ea272686bd2803ce02[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ufVrjvZ.jpg "530152078309b3ea272686bd2803ce02[1].jpg")
>>322047969
pretty hot desu
>>322044187
>Tfw Meta Knigger fan and loving both the Jap voice and deep Smash voice
The best of both worlds
>>322044187
You must be thinking of someone else, Michiko Sakurai only designed the menus
>>322044187
>Makiko Ohmoto
>Married to Sakurai
>>322026219
>tfw no cartoon Dedede voice in smash
>>322032952
i legitimately and unironically enjoy most, if not all, donkey kong songs
>>322050124
FEAST YOUR EYES
LOOK INTO THE MIRROR
ARR, IT NEVER LIES
YOU'RE A FAGGOT, CAN'T YOU SEE
Dedede's Brawl voice was perfect, bring that back. You should be ashamed of yourself for wanting the English cartoon voice.
Bowser and the Kongs should have their voices. If anyone should have a synthetic voice, it's Yoshi. Since his SMW/SMW2 sound effects are better than his currect voice.
>>322050513
YOU LIVE TO LOOT AND PILLAGE MEME AND TERRORIZE
>>322046540
Blame Squeenix for that. They also refused to give us any stage music besides the normal battle and boss themes.
>>322050792
YOUR REFLECTION TELLS A STORY OF A HOMO'S BOOTY GLORY
Anybody got that pic comparing traditional fighters to smash?
>>322026219
Isn't there a way to mod Brawl so this is possible though?
Last time I gave up because the only known method was ridiculously unreliable (and tedious) to pull off. Hasn't adding custom voices been streamlined by now?
It shouldn't really be an issue at all. I mean we already have this shit down to a science.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17FX2vsTCCk
