Gentlemen, how do we fix the Metroid series?
Two words:
Metroid Musou.
>>321907254
I don't want it fixed, I want it dead, buried, and retroactively removed from all records
>>321907254
You can't.
Metroid had it's chance.
Make a new game in the spirit of Super/Prime. That's pretty much it.
>>321907254
It's fine the way it is. Except other M. The only problem is that she will eventually have to die.
>>321907254
Give it to Platinum Games
>>321907254
Continue the story after Fusion and declare Other M not canon.
Make another Metroid game.
You know, those games about isolation, exploration, and a one man mission about blowing up a spaceship/blowing up a species/blowing up a planet/sometimes saving some weird aliens.
AKA not watching some bimbo cry while doors lock behind me.
>>321907254
Go back in time and make a good n64 game.
Skipping that generation was a mistake that the series will never recover from.
make samus completely naked at all times
Completely remove Samus, keep core gameplay
Literally make Metroid 5
that's ALL they have to do, continue Fusions plot
>>321907254
A 2D Sidescroller game for the Wii U, ala Super Metroid, except the view on the Wii U gamepad will be first-person like Prime. So you do all your scanning and precise aiming stuff via the gamepad, while the actual moving around is still done on the 2D plane.
Or... just make another Prime. They don't even need Retro to do it, just take the basic way Prime worked and do it themselves. Don't call it Prime though because "Prime 4", after so long, would sound desperate.
Not making another one and ending the series.
The series will be remembered with love.
>>321911039
I'd rather they make one more game to end the series. I hate that it has to end on such a sour note.
>>321909554
The prime games made up for it though.
>>321910641
>>321908743
> easiest and safest answer. maybe even correct
>>321909554
> N64 metroid
fifth gen was trash for action games, my friend.
do you prefer Yoshi's Story style 2D trash or low-fps attempt at 3D?
there wasn't even enough horsepower to try an Other M-style 2.5D kind of thing with any fidelity.
I'm surprised Nintendo never turned Metroid into an online shooter to compete with Halo and COD.
>>321911184
You'll learn to live with it.
make a metroid game focused on exploration
that's it
>>321911504
japs apparently can't into FPS without tossing their lunches, so Nintendo shies away from them, and it took them until Splatoon to even try something along those lines.
>>321907254
By pretending the Prime shit never existed
>>321911514
What was even so bad about this? Looked interesting.
>>321911671
yet prime sold more than other m in japan
I wouldn't call prime an FPS though, more of first person action adventure
>>321911723
It was about as Castlevaniay as Other M was Metroidy, familiar phrases and names and some concepts, nothing else.
>>321907254
Besides Other M there's never been anything wrong with it.
>>321907254
>Make it more notable even outside of video games, maybe hire a studio to make an OVA or collaborate with Darkhorse to make a comic.
>Have a decent shelf of Metroid merchandise when Nintendo finally opens the gift shop in their upcoming deal with Universal Studios. >Advertise the living hell out of whatever Metroid title is upcoming.
>Maybe have a team dedicated to Metroid installments like the Zelda team. >Focus on the Western audience, there is no Japanese audience.
>>321911918
But was it a good game at least? I enjoyed the first one as a kind-of better GoW. Honestly, Castlevania has always been a bit inconsistent anyhow.
>>321910641
Too bad Sakamoto ruined everything. Why did Yokoi have to die?
>>321912117
Yakuza?
>>321907254
You have two choices.
One, you strike Other M from the record of being canon to the series and pick up after Fusion. Make it the same gameplay it has always been. Go around looking for power ups to progress to the next area. Make the bad guys the Federation with a dash of some Space Pirates also getting in on the fun.
Option 2. You do a total reboot of the series and start it from scratch.
Or we can take
Option 3. It's a dead series that has lived past it's period of enjoyment. Adventure exploration games are pretty much dead and getting replaced with cinematic 'experiences'. It's better to remember it fondly then to try to continue it as a shambling corpse that rides most of it's current enjoyment from the sexualization of its titular character then from any kind of gameplay mechanic
>>321912060
Let me answer your question with another one. How do you like shitty stealth sections?
Make it akin to Prime, but with a few changes.
>no story allowed whatsoever, no voice acting, no cutscenes, nothng. The second you press the start button, the game instantly starts, and you are in complete control until the credits start.
>any and all story and lore must be relegated to optional content you can find off the beaten path, in secret rooms, or scannable pics, etc
>gameplay should be fast, fluid, and with a generally good pace to it
>the world should be open, but alitte linearity can be warranted at the beginning, to outline basic gameplay mechanics, or get us familiar with hub sections of the overworld, bu near the middle the game should eally stretch outward in all directions
>plenty of secrets, plenty of tricks, plenty of unique paths that you can run to challenge yourself, or skip sections of the game, but only if you're very skilled at platforming
>old powerups are welcome, but we should start with at least a few of them. Don't strip Samus down to her basic armaments again.
>NO ZERO SUIT. Anyone who plays Metroid to masturbate should not be allowed to even touch this game.
>plenty of minibosses and challenging world bosses
>metroids don't need to be there, but if need be, Samus can get powers based on the metroid, like hovering, energy siphon abilities, maybe a melee attack based on metroid teeth and mandibles
>multiple worlds if possible
>maybe a segment where your ship turns into a giant mech and you have to engage the space pirates in their giant mech
>an idea that was bounced around a year ago: the origins of Ridley, fighting multiple clones of him, before coming upon subject zero: the original
>either have it be a decrepit Bacterion-style boss who can't do anything anymore in a fanatical bit of irony, or have him be a superboss that puts every other to shame. Whatever fits the tone
This is what Metroid needs.
Metroid Musou would be good, give it to the guys who did Hyrule Warriors.
Of course, if you must keep it first person, make it a survival horror. Make Samus still a strong powerful warrior but make it so whatever she got her self into is way the fuck over her head. Maybe she crashed on an Alien planet in a radio dead zone, losing her powers like she always does. Add some lovecraftian shit, play up the that that you need to explore in a metroid game. Make hard choices, do I run through this magma field to escape this unbeatable evil even though I don't have the magma armor yet? DO I face the evil and risk further damage to the armor I do have?
GIve it to Retro, make them play up the atmosphere. Make me feel like its only a matter of time before the galaxy's best bounty hunter succumbs to this harsh, strange evil planet. Don't make her weak, make her overwhelmed.
>>321912202
Can't be any worse than collectathons.
>>321912251
>Scan shit around the planet
>Lovecraftian lore everywhere
>>321912230
I agree with 99% of this other than the mech horseshit. Samus can blow up planets by herself, she doesn't need a fucking mech. If anything, a better boss would be climbing inside the enemy mech and destroying it from within.
>>321912172
Well, Gunpei Yokoi died in a car crash, and I doubt they'd set up something like that simply because the Virtual Boy was a commercial failure. That man was a god damned genius, and at the time, technology just wasn't up to snuff for his ideas. I can only imagine what he would've done if not for his untimely death. He co-created Metroid with Sakamoto, and I just have a feeling Other M wouldn't have been the abomination it was if Yokoi was still alive.
>>321912471
That was the best thing in prime. I scanned the shit out of everything,because if I wanted a story I could of just indulge myself, or I can choose not to and beat the bosses while I watch the world around me burn without any forethought.
>>321912569
Samus has never blown up a single planet.
>>321912230
>>the world should be open
everything you said before that was retarded too but i'm not even going to keep reading after that
>>321912047
Really if Nintendo wants to make Metroid BIG then they need to jump on the VR bandwagon that is about to come crashing through the current gaming culture. Too bad Nintendo has written off VR as not being a big deal because it's 'isolating'.
If they could make their first big VR game Metroid and do it right, it will make everyone go wild.
>>321911489
I ain't gonna argue that the N64 sucked dick but you gotta remember that Nintendo's audience was different back then. Nintendo fans actually gave two shits about shooters and action games and sci fi games during that era.
>>321912047
>Make it more notable even outside of video games, maybe hire a studio to make an OVA or collaborate with Darkhorse to make a comic.
>Have a decent shelf of Metroid merchandise when Nintendo finally opens the gift shop in their upcoming deal with Universal Studios.
>Advertise the living hell out of whatever Metroid title is upcoming.
>Maybe have a team dedicated to Metroid installments like the Zelda team
>Focus on the Western audience, there is no Japanese audience.
>Release a mainline game, then a spin-off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewcljvJQAQA
>Cutscenes only when appropriate
>Large, complex maps with secrets again
>beam/item toggle returns from super metroid
>more morph ball stuff
>more hard puzzles in general
>NG+ type stuff with tougher enemies, harder puzzles, possibly unique powerups or rearranged to assist with speedruns
>a LOT of unlockable content for completion time, no death runs, 100% runs etc.
>more lore, space pirate logs, etc.
>online leaderboards
>boss rush mode unlocked featuring bosses from old titles mixed in
>>321908498
I'd like to see a re-imagining (Zero Mission style) of Super Metroid or Fusion with this kind of stylised art style. Fan bois would lap it up and it'd appeal to indie fags, couldn't be too hard to make either tbqh.
>>321912230
>Samus should never talk meme
>>321912047
>>Focus on the Western audience, there is no Japanese audience.
There's no Western audience anymore either.
![46971[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6ZqIJP9.jpg "46971[1].jpg")
>>321912117
Yoshio Sakamoto is the George Lucas of the vidya industry.
How can you fuck up your own legacy so bad
>>321912885
The ad campaign for Prime was pretty fucking amazing. I wish Nintendo had more quality control.
>>321912779
She literally used an entire spacestation as a giant projectile to blow up a planet.
She was also the cause of the events that lead to the destruction of Zebes.
>>321907254
make Samus officially a tranny
>>321913102
He's no Masahiro Sakurai though.
>>321908743
This.
>>321908913
And this too
>>321910641
This is a good idea
>>321911039
But this is the best option and the only one to prevent further disasters.
>>321913102
>How can you fuck up your own legacy so bad
When you become obsessive over it. Sakamoto had become a fanboy of himself and he believed that Samus was the daughter he never had. When you go into this reverence of your own work, you start to believe that nothing you say or do is ever wrong and that leads to very poor decisions.
>>321913102
If any kind of afterlife is real, I can only imagine the anguish Yokoi feels seeing Sakamoto fumble their creation so hard.
Crossover with some third party IP
>>321907254
Make another 2d Metroid
>>321912779
I'm going to assume you're being facetious because no one has ever been this wrong.
>>321911918
The Lords of Shadow games are as "Castlevania-y" as plenty of other things the series has had. They just sort of sucked.
>>321913607
Read what >>321913247 said.
A space station blew up one planet. And the space pirates blew up Zebes.
Samus has never blown up a planet but her fanboys credit them to her anyway.
No Zero Suit garbage. Samus doesn't need to be a waifu.
>>321913752
She hit the buttons that made the BSL Space station change it's orbit and collide with SR388.
Apart from ripping chunks of dirt up piece by piece, that is as close as humanly possible as you'll get to someone destroying a planet.
What you're saying right now is "I didn't kill anyone, it was the bullet that killed them".
>>321913752
She directly responsible for the chain of events that caused those planets to explode. And in the case of Fusion, while she was aided by an AI, she personally typed in the codes to activate the destruction of the space station, and hence the planet.
>>321913976
Unfortunately it's too late. They won't disassociate Samus' oversexualization now because it sells.
>>321913752
>it was the space station that wrecked the planet, Samus only pushed the button
>it was the gun that killed that guy, I only pulled the trigger
>>321913102
Just give two teams the green light and Nintendo and put this fucker in a locker during developement.
One team can develop a big 3D Metroid for the Wii U/NX with exploring planets, call it Metroid 5. While the other team can develop a Metroid for the 3DS, maybe a pimped up version of Metroid 2. Leave Super Metroid as it is, perfect.
Then do some promo, Metroid collections on the Virtual Console, comics, advertising, so on. Maybe even an animated series on Netflix.
>>321912569
>mech horseshit
You take that back right now.
>>321912251
Can Retro even pull it of again?
A good number of people responsible for Prime left
>>321907254
Fix the fanbase first. But it's too late for that.
>>321913102
no, kojima is the lucas of gaming
awesome sequel, poor prequels (inb4 mgs3 fags mad about their menu simulator and dumbed down challenge/AI respond)
>>321912698
>Gunpei Yokoi died in a car crash
Not exactly. He survived the crash, but when he got out of the car to inspect the damage, he was killed by two passing cars.
If you were in charge of this, how would you handle it?
>>321914437
I love mechs, just not for metroid. It's so out of place.
>>321913752
you're a fucking idiot
>>321914645
Develop a real Metroid game alongside it.
FF itself isn't the main issue here. The issue is that it's the only game after Other M with no signs of any attempts to restore the franchise to its former glory.
If it came out between Prime 2 and 3 then nobody would have any problems with it.
>>321914645
Make the art style better, otherwise it's fine.
Fuck the manbabies that started a cancellation petition because it was not what they wanted. Their reaction made me ashamed to be a Metroid fan.
>>321914649
Then make it a shmup section. Or something. Her ship in Prime 3 was cool as all hell, and Samus should inherit that ability to control stuff remotely, right from Tony Stark.
>>321912230
>>no story allowed whatsoever, no voice acting, no cutscenes, nothng. The second you press the start button, the game instantly starts, and you are in complete control until the credits start.
>>any and all story and lore must be relegated to optional content you can find off the beaten path, in secret rooms, or scannable pics, etc
>>the world should be open, but alitte linearity can be warranted at the beginning, to outline basic gameplay mechanics, or get us familiar with hub sections of the overworld, bu near the middle the game should eally stretch outward in all directions
>>NO ZERO SUIT. Anyone who plays Metroid to masturbate should not be allowed to even touch this game.
>>maybe a segment where your ship turns into a giant mech and you have to engage the space pirates in their giant mech
These are fucking retarded.
Samus has character and a story can be made about it, just dont do what Other M did. Zero Suit is fine, only spergs dont like it. The world should be a big maze like it was in all the other games (save Other M), open areas do not suit Metroid unless they still have the sense of isolation.
>>321912779
Zebes, Dark Aether, SR388, and Phaaze.
>>321914623
Oh
Well that's a little more depressing than what I had originally thought.
Make it pass the Bechdel test.
>>321914937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE37PplM5ps
Kek
>>321914645
Make it on the Wii U instead of the shitty 3ds. Make it faster, make it so that everyone isn't the same to promote team play. Make it so that it shows the actual inner workings of the Federation and how the normal soliders feel about things and Samus. Hint about the corruption eating at it with missions that aren't always "WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS"
>>321915069
Was not Samus
It's called SELF destruct, not Samus Destruct.
>>321915059
>Samus has character and a story can be made about it
Video games are not about story. They should be gameplay first. If you want a story, tell it through the gameplay.
>Zero Suit is fine, only spergs dont like it
The zero suit does not belong in Metroid. It should only be a post-credits bonus for speedrunners and completionists, and when it starts invading the gameplay, people stop caring about gameplay quality just so they can jerk off to Samus in spandex.
>The world should be a big maze like it was in all the other games (save Other M), open areas do not suit Metroid unless they still have the sense of isolation.
This I'll agree with.
>>321915192
I kinda hope if Federation Force 2 somehow was made it would feature a civil war among the Federation itself
>>321914645
I just hate the artstyle. If it was like prime I would definitly buy it.
>>321908498
This pretty much. Prime was made to mimic Super in First person and lo and behold it even has cool "glitch" mechanics to skip around the game.
A new game in lieu of that would be ideal.
>>321914645
Why. Seriously, why? I'm actually asking why.
The concept of playing a GFed soldier in the Metroid universe is so fucking rad, so cool, that it was almost impossible to fuck up, and somehow they did it anyway.
Even more than that, a SQUAD-BASED GFed game? FUCKING. RADICAL. That is the shit. I would be so down for that.
And yet they SOMEHOW fuck that up?
HOW is that even possible?
>>321908498
>Prime
Taking absolutely everything that made Metroid "Metroid" and turning the series into a generic Halo clone is what killed it. When people think about good Metroid games, they think about Super Metroid.
>>321915473
By giving it to a team that doesn't know the first fucking thing about Metroid. Next Level Games is such a shit studio it makes me sick to think that Nintendo keeps handing them projects.
>>321915473
>3ds
>Not Retro Studios
>Bland as hell so far
>Chibi style
>Blast Ball
>6 years since a new Metroid
>Fucking Blast Ball
>I do feel that this is a similar reaction to when we first announced Wind Waker from Zelda. Eventually people started to understand what the game was about, and I still believe that there is still going to be something similar in that respect here.
http://nintendoeverything.com/tanabe-on-metroid-prime-ff-amiibo-backlash-timeline-story-retro-studios/
>>321913349
sweet pic
>>321915810
At this point, we should just give it to an indie dev in his basement to work on.
Metroid 2's remake is coming out well. pic related.
>>321912230
I agree with most of this, except the mech and the exploration.
I agree that the game should be open but I don't just want to be able to walk into each open space. I want it like Super Metroid. I want to figure out how to enter places. I want to utilize physics mechanics in my second playthrough to get to places I didn't know I could before.
Question:
Why the fuck didn't Metroid Prime 3 have online multiplayer if it made Metroid Prime Hunters a success? Such a big missed opportunity by Nintendo
>>321915810
Zelda fans hate every new zelda game and praise the one before it.
Is metroid worth a playthrough? It's like $13 on ebay. I feel like I can't dislike it if I never played it, I mean it can't be worse than Hunters right?
>>321915693
>>321912794
Um... I'm certain he didn't mean "open-world" kind of open because sandbox is cancer. Probably means seamless like the rest of the games. Metroidvania kind of open like Super Metroid not like on rails Fusion or Other M.
>OPEN WORLD!
Anyone who says this should immediately be disregarded. Metroid in all it's incarnations (with one obvious exception) has relied on extremely tight, very skilled and focused mapmaking. The level design that goes into a proper Metroid game is ridiculous. An open world flies completely in the face of how the games operate, and indeed, just scaling up the other games might not be a good idea either. What really should be a priority is increasing the density of aesthetic design in the rooms themselves, making them really dense with shit. Super detailed pixel art and high rez textures in Primes. I mean shit Retro used black magic to make the Primes look that great on a gamecube, imagine what they could do on NX.
>>321916161
*metroid other m
>>321913349
>How do I anatomy?
>>321916085
As much as metroid prime 2's multiplayer was tacked on, it was fun as fuck
Even if it was shit, I know I'd play the fuck out of mp3 multi if it was a thing
>>321916085
Because Metroid Prime 2's multiplayer was vastly ignored so they decided to just focus on Metroid Prime 3's singleplayer.
>>321916085
Because Prime 3 was rushed out the door. They couldn't work on multiplayer shit.
>>321916264
>>321916291
I'm the original guy behind the post. What you said nailed it exactly. I loved Super Metroid and I loved Prime, and I wouldn't change their worlds into a sandbox. I just meant open in the sense that you can explore and find cool secrets and a hundred hidden paths.
>>321915810
>I do feel that this is a similar reaction to when we first announced Wind Waker from Zelda
What a piece of shit. There is a world of difference between the situations here. Wind Waker was an actual fucking mainline Zelda title, with a competent art and graphical style going on. Federation Force is some spin off with a graphical style more befitting of an early, original DS game. It just comes off as an overall lacking and generic game so far. It lacks any sort of identity.
>Space soldiers in space fighting space aliens
Gee haven't heard of that a million fucking times before.
>>321916307
Just watch it on youtube. It has no worth as a Metroid game and indeed is sort of a shit game in general. Feel free I guess but you're just gonna be wasting your money.
>"it should be 2D"
>>321916264
>seamless
Which is hilarious because it isn't. It's sectioned off with elevators that essentially act the same way as a loading screen.
Manual ship piloting
>>321916537
But the best Metroid games were 2D
>>321916689
Prime 2 is 3D though.
>>321916780
>Implying that Prime 2 is better than Super Metroid or Fusion
>>321916537
>Enough
Quite the opposite really. Modern 2D games are fucking great, especially if they're done in an actual 2D format rather than 2.5D or some shit. I'm glad Vanillaware stick with 2D. It's a shame the bulk of 2D games these days are indie garbage.
Allow metroid to roll once in a while
>>321916957
Well first of all Fusion is the worst 2D game, I don't know why you'd use it in the same sentence as Super, and yea Prime 2 is better than Super.
>>321916689
The best in retrospect.
If they're gonna make it 2D they may as well include 8-bit grafix, 3-button gameplay and a chiptune soundtrack because they clearly wouldn't be aiming to impress.
Never make Samus talk again
>>321917120
I'll take that if the alternative is some 50 billion dollar budget title where the game is just a glorified cinematic hallway simulator.
i got into metriod recently and realy love it
i played fusion and prime zero and cant decide wich i liked the most but tend to pick fusion though i hated the cutsence and talking
should i play the prime series now and should i avoid another m or why is it so bad?
>>321917114
I can't agree with that simply because of the keys you have to get. At least in Prime 1 you could get them as you went along in certain areas if you knew where they were.
Prime 2 locked them behind the Dark Visor and that slowed everything down dramatically for no real reason.
Which is a shame, because everything outside of that was amazing.
>>321916591
Good game design goes fucking miles.
>>321917496
The backtracking to get those keys is such a pain in the ass. I'd wager it's worse than the Triforce Hunt in Wind Waker.
>>321917406
None of the 3D games are like that.
>>321917446
If you hated Fusion for the talking, then Other M would bore you to tears because it's 10 times the talking, all cutscenes are also unskippable.
Yes, play the Prime series and then finish it off with Super. If you loved Zero Mission, you will love Super. It's everything it was and more.
>>321917862
Sheeeeeeeeeeeit
>>321917801
Make some cross marketing before Metroid 5 gets released.
Bring the new Mass Effect also to the Nintendo NX and introduce Samus as a love interest to the new "Shepherd".
how do you think samus' armpits smell after a hard day's bounty hunting?
>>321918206
Well, this thread was nice while it lasted.
>>321918129
I am not joking when I say that I will blow up Nintendo's HQ if this were to become a thing.
The only series that should be crossed over with Metroid is F-Zero and Star Fox.
>>321918129
>BioWare writing Samus
>>321918290
It sucks. People immediately want to talk about smelling her underarms.
It's really the pits.
>>321912304
It is. Probably one of the single most retarded sequences in any game I have ever played in my life. The game was so bad I received around 15 dollars for it from Gamestop about 2 weeks after release because of the flood of copies coming from people.
>>321915847
Why not?
A decent trilogy, a handheld spinoff, not to mention a rerelease of the trilogy with wii motion controls added.
To say nothing on the fact that we got Fusion and Zero Mission as well.
I mean, it was a decent point in Metroid's history.
>>321918129
>BioWare
No
>>321918290
it was never good you homosexual faggot
whats the best 2d metroid and why is it fusion?
can you buy it for the 3ds?
>>321907254
The Samus story line has so much potential that feel when we get that garbage galactic federation chibi styled shit
>>321918776
No, because typical underpowered Nintendo hardware screams in agony at the thought of running GBA games. You can get it on Wii U, though.
>>321918776
>fusion
>>321912047
>Implying Nintendo will make mass market merch of anything other than Muhrio and Zelda.
>>321918776
>3DS ambassadors have had Fusion for over 4 years now
>they still won't put those games up on the eShop even though they work just fine
I really don't get it.
>>321918770
Neither was /v/, but we all had fun, right? And still try to, I guess.
>>321915290
>Video games are not for story.
You're fucking retarded. That's like saying movies should only be about the cinematography. You can tell stories without cutscenes and words, in fact that's optimal. Keep spouting "gameplay" as you have any clue on how you would describe that in this regard or how you would "focus" on this, as that's meaningless. Never start game development
>>321919609
>you can tell stories without cutscenes and words
That I can agree with. If you can tell an intricate and deep story without a single cutscene or piece of dialogue, I'd support you 100$.
I'm just sick of games where the story is such a huge tumor on the game that the gameplay is nonexistent.
>>321919592
i'd have more fun if i could smell samus' armpits
>>321918921
It has nothing to do with hardware. GBA games were available as ambassador freebies and the 3DS handles GBA games just fine assuming the ROMs are converted to CIA. It has native support of GBA games.
>>321914649
The Varia suit is literally a bunch of mecha parts slapped together.
>>321912251
pls respond
>>321919609
Video games never needed a story to engross the player.
Back then, all you needed was a paragraph or two in the manual and a press of the start button.
Even for JRPGs like FF or Dragon Quest on the NES, the stories were comparably sparse because you didn't need an especially convoluted storyline just to engross the player, you just needed enough of a reason for why you're going from point A to point B, and even that's optional.
>>321920746
This guy knows what they're talking about. When did games require this massive 50 hour cutscene spree of emotions and drama? Where's the fun?
>>321920746
The important thing is that the games were immersive.
>>321908097
>well we had tie ins with Metroid Fusion and Metrid Prime that one time and we included Samus in smash Bros, what more can we do!
>>321921012
Metroid got a push that other B-tier franchises would have killed for and it failed.
>>321921276
The Metroid Prime Trilogy was an enormous success, the most profitable period of time the series has ever had. It wasn't a failure, Nintendo are just complete fucking retards when it comes to Metroid somehow.
>>321916291
Open world doesn't necessarily mean "make it like GTA". Personally, I think a game built in a vein similar to how the new Zelda is shaping up to be could be quite interesting. Have an open hub (like a small abandoned city, or desolate fields) that allows you to walk in any direction, and in those directions have well crafted dungeons/areas to explore littered about, with plenty of secrets and hidden objectives laid out for all your backtracking needs. Basically, imagine if in Prime, Tallon IV overworld was just that, and you could walk to Magmoor Caverns, Phendrana Drifts, Phazon Mines or the Chozo Ruins at any point of the game.
I think it would be a very interesting experience, especially if the story of the planet was told through a broken format as it was in Prime. It may not be the direction the series should always move in, but I don't see the harm in a one-off style game like Hunters.
>>321907254
>gentlemen
AND ladies. Samus have plenty of female fans, being one of the earlier notable female protagonists in video games.
>>321921476
It was so successful that Retro's next game outsold all of them put together and they got moved to IP's that actually appeal to people.
>>321914645
Speed up the gameplay a bit. Everything being slow in the other Primes is fine because they're about exploration, but if the game is primarily action I want things to be snappier.
Differentiate the different characters, both visually and their abilities. Given each player a role to play in missions, not necessarily something strict but just so it's a slightly different experience for everyone and not just "all point guns at thing and shoot"
Fix the graphics. I don't even give a shit if it's cartoony, just make it look better than a goddamn N64 game, those textures are shameful.
>>321915761
Alright I agree that they seem like a bad match for Metroid, but you can fuck right the fuck off with calling them a bad studio.
>>321921845
Tropic Freeze had MASSIVE marketing though, you had to look to find any info about the Prime series
>>321921845
I know Metroid will never reach DK levels of success but still it's a little unfair comparing a title with a lot of marketing, a big name on the cover, and on the system with the largest install base possible to a series that was two-thirds on one of Nintendo's weakest selling systems.
>>321921845
It helps that tropical dong had advertising while Metroid was left to rot thanks to Nintendo's incompetence.
>>321918971
Fusion had the best bossfights, atmosphere, andwritingof the 2D games
Metroid: Wooly World
>>321924704
I'd buy it
>>321924704
>>321924945
>Not "Knitroid"
dropped
>>321924704
>Paper Mario
>Yarn/Clay Kirby
>Wooly Yoshi
>Model Kit Metroid
>>321915947
>1080p
It's not. The guy's using modified GBA sprites.
>>321924704
Perfect
make it like batman arkham asylum if 3d is your jam [but actually put someone competent on designing bosses], or keeping along the path zero mission / fusion in 2d platform land with tailored speed running sections and some optional powerups and abilities like Axiom Verge [but not like axiom verge because the bosses blew and most of the optional weapons and powerups were kinda lame, very situational, or completely outclassed by the base 3 weapons kilver, disrupter, and the explody thing you get early on, by the time you get them]
>>321925503
Brilliant
>>321921845
And then Tropical Freeze proceded to sell less than the worst selling Prime game.
Poetry.
>>321913349
THICK
>>321918776
Objectively, the ranking goes Super > Zero Mission > Fusion, but my personal favourite isZero Mission
>>321910641
yup, we don't know what the hell Sakamoto's team is doing right now but I hope it's this for the NX handheld. The main series of Metroid has been sitting dormant for too long it's time for Metroid 5.
>>321911383
In your dreams.
>>321907254
Make a game exactly like super metroid in every way but the specifics of map design and content. NO DIALOG aside from during intro.
Done.
>>321908498
>Prime
You fucking pile of shit
>>321911504
Who the hell wants this shit, Prime was starting to already turn fps by Prime 2 we didn't need the franchise further going in that direction.
>>321929738
Tomodachi Life NX.
Prime style or continuing fusion
Literly the only way i'll be satisfied
>>321907383
>Musou.
whats that?
>>321914645
Cancel it & develop Metroid 5.
>>321908718
Please no. All Platinum games are fucking terrible. Their games are the opposite of what Metroid needs to be.
>>321908718
I hope you realize that an action game wouldn't fit with the series
>>321930268
HAHAHAHAHA....no
Sakamoto's team is working on Rhythm Heaven The Best right now but I do believe his Metroid team is working on Fusion's sequel.
>>321931616
you mean hack-and-slash or character action game, Metroid is already a series of action games
>>321931974
RH came out 6 months ago dude.
There's literally 0 chances they're working on Metroid 5, I was joking about TL NX but something like WarioWare is much more likely.
>>321915290
>Video games are not about story.
I couldn't agree more, this is why Halo died. I had more fun when the story came from the characters around Chief. Now Chief doesn't shut up. If I want to play a Metroid game for a character driven story I would play Fusion or Other M, but I want to play a Metroid game like Metroid NES, Metroid II, & Super Metroid.
>>321933197
>RH came out 6 months ago dude.
Wait it did? Man I'm out of the loop. But back on topic Takahashi stated last year that a Prime game was in the works along with a traditional game. This meant he talked to Tanabe about Federation Force & he talked to Sakamoto about a new traditional Metroid. Sakamoto also stated in an interview back in 2010 that when he came back to Metroid him & his team would finally follow-up on Fusion's story.
Go back to ripping off Alien. Nintendo has dozens of cartoony games. Metroid would actually suit a more realistic art style and tone instead of the pseudo-anime thing its been saddled with.
Gameplay wise it's fine, nobody really counts Other M right? Just go back to Super/Prime then I guess.
>>321932126
It's more about adventure and discovering new upgrades and items. It's not about just killing everything in sight.
>>321933647
Yeah considering the Prime game in the works turned out to be Federation Force, I fully expect the 2D one to be something like an endless runner mobile game. If it even exist.
>>321934089
I doubt it, Metroid is too complicated for mobile. They are definitely making it for the NX handheld probably & hopefully as a launch title or at least a 2017 release.
>>321907254
>Make Saums a loli
>???
>Profit
>>321927756
Metroid would have done even worse.
>>321934475
>Game explores Samus' training under the Chozo.
>Learn more about the silly bird fucks.
>Maybe the origin of the power armor.
>See sammy freak out about her first feather pube.
>>321933647
>But back on topic Takahashi stated last year that a Prime game was in the works along with a traditional game.
That's not what he fucking said.
>>321934750
prime 4 would probrably have sold better than tropicana freeze
no one was hype for donkey kong 2
>>321934438
It's kinda funny seeing people still SURE something good is right about the corner after Other M, 5 whole years of wait and Federation Force.
Don't come crying when you'll get nothing as usual.
>>321907254
anyone have that rad as hell samus drawing where she looks like she's 45 and all scarred up?
>>321935229
I'm sure another Metroid will happen, but whether or not it will actually be good is a whole other matter.
>>321935229
Isn't it ironic how Metroid fans have terrible reading comprehension?
They read what they want to read and then get upset when reality doesn't match their made up expectations.
>>321934475
>The suit isn't white
just make another 2D game
>>321907383
Not enough important characters or individual weapons.
>>321935220
Yes he fucking did.
http://kotaku.com/nintendo-is-planning-a-future-for-both-2d-and-3d-metroi-1590142491
Shinya Takahashi: "Nintendo: So it has been a while since we released the last one and we're having discussions internally about what we can do next. So at this point we have two different types of Metroid games. We have the Prime style of Metroid game and we have the more traditional style of Metroid game. We feel that we do need to take care of both of these styles of play. And the hope is that at some point in the near future we'll be able to share something about them."
So you gonna tell me I'm wrong again ? Keep up with the fucking news.
>>321935662
Just like that Zebes gravity shit that they keep spewing out of their ass b/c of a typo.
>>321907254
I wish they would take a stab at doing a procedurally generated 2D metroid (with standard 1st playthrough map), so that there would be actual exploration and not just speedrunning for subsequents runs of the game.
>>321936236
From what i've seen from Hyrule warriors
They'd make it work
>>321907254
make a sequel to fusion that plays like zero mission
metroid saved
>>321937664
>procedurally generated
Yes, let's get rid of the well designed maps Metroid is known for.
Has procedural generation ever actually resulted in interesting exploration?
>>321916085
Prime 3 was rushed for the Wii's launch, and the Wii's online is putrid.
>>321938164
diablo 2 of course.
>>321938164
I like minecraft and shiren mystery dungeon but judging by your post I don't think you'd call them interesting
>>321916405
>>321938364
Prime 3 was rushed?
I really couldn't tell. In fact it's definitely the most polished feeling of the 3
based retro studios
>>321938164
most procedural generation is shit of course, but there's no fundamental reason sufficiently smart programmers/level designers couldn't make a generator that produced equal quality maps.
it's just about determining the fundamental constraints that make a map or room "good" and then being able to code a generator that can guarantee-ably produce maps with those elements.
if anybody has turned level design into an exact science at this point, it's Nintendo.
>>321916085
Hunters wasn't really a success. It's the worst selling Metroid, not counting Prime Trilogy. That's pretty damn weak, especially considering it was on the DS.
