>Enemies have crazy 6 hit combos that drain all of your stamina and tend to track perfectly even mid-move
This game is hell for melee.
just dodge retard
>>321712909
just dodge
even if you use a tank build you shouldn't stay in front of the enemy an take hits like a faggot.
>>321712975
>>321713225
Dodging six times drains my stamina, too.
>>321713502
dodge better retard
>>321712975
>>321713574
You know, without commas, those sentences don't say what you think they say. Degenerate.
>>321713840
put points into adaptability, retard
>>321713840
eat shit cumstain
>people still play this game in 2015
>>321713840
If you know the intentions of their posts does their punctuation matter? You obviously understood what they meant, inb4 bait.
>>321713972
>>321714010
Plebs.
>>321714009
Just bought it this morning, family. Pretty fun so far.
>>321712909
Yeah I gave up for this reason too. Not why i played souls.
They fixed this in bloodborne tho. Stop playing dark souls 2 and start playing bloodborne
>>321714320
/v/ so desperate to seem cool about videogames that they hate on good games because others like them.
Seriously, I got it recently and the DLC and i'm pretty happy with my decision. Almost bought Grand Theft Meme, Might still get it.
>>321713225
>just dodge
Can't dodge shock waves, nigga.
>>321715060
Did you get SotFS?
>>321712909
I dunno man
>start up game
>pick cleric because of that sweet ass robe
>not really a FTH guy but whatever
>holy shit this mace is really good
>proceed to macelock everything to death, all the way to endgame
>>321715190
There are no shockwaves, nigga, it's just your hitbox staying in the same place as your model rolls
>>321715267
Not sure what that means. I got the three crowns.
OP I wish they had some sort of way that you could bring someone better at the game in to help you...
>>321713502
You're dodging the wrong way.
>>321712909
I don't know if this applies to the whole game but I picked up the upgrade so sotfs and started a new run today. In that forest of giants area there's an archer that would shoot arrows that would slightly curve to hit you in the vanilla DS2. after getting hit a few times by him this time around I stopped to see what the fuck I was doing wrong since dodging arrows is ez pz shit. His arrows no longer curve he does however have perfect path prediction so if you're walking in a straight line and keep walking in the same direction he will hit you 10/10 times but if you walk and stop when he fires his arrow it will fly past you in front of you. This is a huge improvement and I hope it isn't an isolated thing in sotfs.
The three crowns trilogy is objectively the absolute peak of the souls series.
Prove me wrong.
>>321715785
nah. Bloodborne with the DLC is GOAT. seriously. The DaS2 dlcs were better than the main game, but it had too many flaws IMO.
>>321715964
>Bloodborne with the DLC is GOAT
Goddamn, it is. Though Innsmouth was pretty hamfisted, they could have done more to make it allegorical rather than an exact copy.
>>321715785
It's the peak of DaS2 for sure, but not the whole series. It's not AotA/TOH-tier.
If the entire game had been designed like the Three Crowns Trilogy and it didn't use such bullshit difficulty to pad the length as well as tons of copy-pasted enemies across all three DLCs I'd agree.
>>321715550
Scholar of the First Sin, the remastered edition. Don't tell me you got the original
>>321716309
I did. Why does it matter?
>>321716505
You fucked up.
SotFS has all the DLC plus other improvements all in one package.
>>321716505
Dud you get it on 360\PS3?
>>321716618
download code for game was on sale. Ps3's disc drive is broken. No fucks given. I just read the differences and yeah while there is a few its nothing I could really give a shit about.
>>321716256
>AotA
pffft the only things memorable about that DLC are the boss fights. The areas are boring.
Tell me the truth /v/, is sotfs + dlc worth the buy? I beat the game a while ago and didn't spend nearly as much time as I did with DaS1 for obvious reasons. There's not even a free for all arena like in the first game too, so meh. I'm poor, I only have $25, and I'm extremely bored; help me decide or recommend me another game
>>321716309
>>321716505
>>321716618
>Loved Demon's and Dark Souls to death
>Get Dark Souls 2 on launch
>mfw took me months to play through it because I simply didn't want to keep playing it
>"t-the remastered edition fixes it guys!!"
Unless the remaster fixes the core principal that the B Team went in thinking "Okay we need to just throw enemies at the player because that's how you do difficulty, right?" and all the uninspired bosses and enemieswith a few exceptions, honestly
>>321716927
get it fucker
it's good
>>321716884
It's a shame so many of the Three Crowns enemies and bosses are so terrible. Really hurts the entire experience, especially since the other bosses are amazing.
>>321716927
It's the same game. You're better off waiting a few months for DaS 3.
I really like Scholar, but I also really liked the original.
>>321717079
Go back to /dsg/
>>321716947
I haven't gotten very far but i've been playing the shit out of it. Just killed the sinner dude and it took me back to majula. Kinda chained bosses, those three fucks that were only easy when I learned that they are slow as fuuuuuck when there's only two and then I just sorta hoofed it to the sinner dude. 100k souls, went up like 30 levels, feelsgoodman.
So in short I just think you're being picky about enemies being too hard in a game who's selling point is its difficulty
>>321716947
I have to agree sadly. I wanted to like DaS2, but I just didn't. The Ibory King dlc did sort of redeem it for me with the area and bonefist, but damn. I feel like people that didn't play DeS cit das2 too much slack because it's only their second venture into the Souls world. But when it's your 3rd and it doesn't do anything original besides improved dual wielding you have a problem.
On the other hand Bloodborne made me feel like a kid again. I was so excited every morning to get up and play it. Too bad the pvp isn't as good as the old games IMO. They really shouldn't have made it so you need to be summoning to be invaded.
>>321717281
but i don't feel like having to go through a sea of 4 kings shitposts
please dont make me go back
>love DeS, DaS, and BB
>forcing myself to play DaS2 for completion's sake
ugh this is really really bad
>>321715417
wait is this for real
Hijacking this thread for my Bloodborne question:
What's the quickest way to refill my blood vials when I have zero echos? If I need to farm, which lantern is the best for vial drops?
I've been spoiled by herb farming in Demon's Souls and Estus Flasks in Dark Souls.
>>321717327
>So in short I just think you're being picky about enemies being too hard in a game who's selling point is its difficulty
It's not enemies being hard, it's enemies being cheap and boring. The difficulty is only the selling point to the normalfags who can't be bothered reading into the lore or the little things like level/boss/enemy design which are the things that really make the souls series shine.
The B-Team thought like you did though and we got given the mess that was Dark Souls 2
>>321717331
goddamn I can't type. Sorry I sort of rushed it and didn't look for errors.
>>321717590
do chalice dungeons. Or go to the central yharnam lamp and kill all the fatties until the odeon lamp. that'd probably be good.
>>321717251
Gank Squad
Blue Smelter Demon
Lud and Zallen
Literally the design philosophy for each DLC was: Two bosses with effort put into them, and one shitty boss we made in an afternoon.
This is why Old Hunters will always trump DS2 DLC
>>321712909
>L2
>>321712909
The fact that you can block at least 2~3 hits from the bosses already makes it easier than DaS1 for melee.
>>321717527
yes
that's why you should lvl up adp if you don't want to get fucked over
>>321712909hi
>>321717719
Thanks m8
>>321717882
>PCucks will never know the true horror of unpatched Amana
>>321716505
From fucked up Dark Souls 2 so hard they had to make their fans shell out for aother game just to fix it
>>321717882
Going through that as a fat melee tank pre-patch is the most hellish shit in any of the games to me. At least the area looked nice, and the boss looked cool too, even if he was a bitch.
>>321712909
The new Miyazaki meme:
>You don't have poise, but enemies do LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Fucking asshole. If DaS3 has shitty non-functioning armor, I'm not buying it. Stunlocks don't belong in any modern game.
I liked DS2 more than DeS/DS/BB, and there is nothing anyone can do to change that.
Why even care?
>>321718139
>new Miyazaki meme
>didn't play DeS
>>321717754
>People who were amazing at Dark Souls I parrying, could parry everything.
>Can't parry anything in Dark Souls II because the parry frames are so odd.
>>321718139
Poise ruined PVP. Fuck that shit, I don't want it.
>>321716947
It changes enemy placements and so far it feels better than the original. I played DaS2 on release and was disappointed in it (although I didn't think it was a shit game, just flawed differently than DaS and downgraded to hell), was on the fence about getting the remaster upgrade and I'm having fun with it.
>got DS1 from a pal as a Steam gift on Christmas
>never played a Souls game before
>dl it
>quick install dsfix for obv reasons
>goes fine
>don't die at asylum demon
>get dragged by the giant crow
>run into this graveyard
>skellingtons form up
>try to beat em but weapon does puny damage
>get buttfucked and die to 4 steroid skells
I'm determined to keep going but it's gonna be another route next time.
Offer me your best novice adivice. I want to say I beat Dark Souls one day.
Dark Souls 3 needs some good, strong female characters who show tiddies after the secret ending
>>321718171
what would you do
if I told you that it's possible to enjoy shit?
Just don't try and act like it's anything that it's not
>>321715060
>grand theft meme
>meme
Are you serious anon.
>>321717982
>>321718115
>beat shrine of amana on ps3 release version somehow through pain and struggle
>cant beat it on scholar for the life of me now
I'm reliving it and I want to quit
Question here, is there a reason for anyone to hold a shield when they dont parry or even try blocking at all? Should just put that sexy halberd in my both hands?
>>321718386
At the end of the skellingtons is the best weapon in the game
There, now go play Dark Souls
>>321718325
Get the target shield.
>>321718719
There's no real benefit to using shiels in souls games
(except for dark souls 2 because they fucked up the parrying system)
>>321718325
barehand parry has like 15 startup and 4 active frames lmao
>>321718719
is this a real pic or am i being trolled?
>>321718401
They need hips and thighs
I'm tired of forever hollow main character
>>321718386
You went the wrong direction. There is not much advice to give. Resistance is a worthless stat. Upgrading your weapon is the best way of becoming stronger. While you should avoid spoiling things for yourself as much as possible, the game is stupidly obscure about some things so you may find yourself having to google how upgrades work and what the various covenants do. Other than that, just try to go in as blind as possible.
>>321718407
Are you honestly telling me you consider DS2 to be shit?
I can understand not liking it as much as other Souls games, but it isn't a "bad" game.
>>321713502
WELL JUST DODGE ONCE GODDAMNIT also sidestep is stamina free.
>>321718842
I'm not that dumb anon.
>>321719547
So I wasn't supposed to go there yet? Cool, I knew the game was supposed to be hard but that was a bit over the top so fast.
I'm trying to make it as blind a playthrough as possible. Sounds like I'm gonna have to look up the upgrades part though, since all I saw was upgrades to the stats themselves and not equipment.
>>321716618
SotFS doesn't really fix the problems with the game at all. There are still plenty of problems with enemy placement, and the underlying engine problems are still there.
>Half of the game is in tight corridors where your weapon WILL hit a wall
>Lazy hitboxes are still present
>Motion-capped animations still suck and make the game slow.
>Every enemy has the same basic three swipe combo with an optional fourth.
>Iron Keep is still shit.
>Heide's Tower is ACTUALLY WORSE because all they did was move all the Heide Knights there without removing any of the original enemies.
>Dragon Aerie is fixed... By letting you skip it entirely. Good job, B-Team.
>Lore is still shite, even Crowns and Aldia mumbling vague shit about light and dark at you.
>>321720240
He wasn't bullshitting you about the weapon though
>>321720240
>>321721153
this, it's not the best weapon in the game but it's one of the best. It's worth a quick run through the graveyard to find it, even if you die.
>>321712909
this is my main complaint about DkS2.
It's insanely fucking retarded how the enemies have such long combos along with infinite stamina. I wish I could shoot the dumb fucking gook that had that brilliant idea.
And to add to the shitfest they also sometimes switch moves mid-combo.
I seriously fucking hope Miyazaki removes this shit from DkS3 because it's a huge turn off.
So I have been trying to play co-op and pvp do I need SotFS to get more people or like is dark souls 2 just dead?
>>321717982
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/530802/147aa1112f/
>started with DkS on PC
>loved it
>played DkS2 SotFS on PC
>kinda disliked it, DLC was ok
>played Demon's Souls at a friend's house the other day
>fucking loved it
is Demon's Souls the best? Aside from the framerate I really loved how responsive it seemed. I especially liked how parrying actually implied risks and you couldn't just play like a retard.
>>321717791
I don't know what you're talking about. Shields are way more OP for PvE in 1 than in 2. When you can block the Taurus Demon with the wooden shield without much of a problem, you know there's something wrong.
>>321718139
Poise works pretty much exactly the same as DS1 for PvE though.
>>321721153
>>321721684
You fuckers are gonna make me google it even when I really don't want to.
I did see a lot of items scattered around in the place but I had no chance to pick them up. Or rather, didn't care enough to, or even think any of em were super valuable while having a squad of skellies on my ass.
Tell you something, next time I boot up the game I'll do a kamikaze scouting mission and see if you're bullshitting me or not.
>>321722086
I dont know if the base game is dead, but it isnt in the top 100.
SotFS is going to be much more active
>>321718334
>giving a shit about PvP
>>321712909
Are you serious, fuck DSII is a floaty mess and is shitty next to Dark Souls but it's not that fucking hard, have some common sense.
I mean hell you can even beat the first pursuer encounter with a dagger and no leveling up.
All the normal Enemies stagger so easily, if you're getting caught in combos, you're too slow, period.
>>321718919
But they didn't fuck up parrying in DS2. They just made it so it wasn't complete easy mode. Even then, it's still pretty damn easy to parry with the parrying dagger, buckler, and any small shield.
Not really, just dodge. Hell i went through 5 bossses with 0 deaths.
I used a one hand axe.
>>321718386
>Find Mace found nearby
>Knockdown
>Profit
The graveyard is easy with the Mace's knockdown, even at starting knight level
There's nothing all that great there, you get the Zweihander which is pretty good but not the be all end all.
>>321723148
No they fucked it up, it made proper and fluid sense in Dark Souls despite the fact it was easy, they just needed to change the damage on it.
>>321717590
the beginning chalice dungeons throw constant vials at you
I don't know why people say the dlcs redeem DaS2, I fucking hated them and really want to know what people see in them. Brume tower was a kind of cool design, that's about it, sunken area whatever the fuck it was, was shit all around and the bosses and enemies were garbage across the board.
>>321723527
It makes perfect sense in DS2, you're just not willing to learn. The only parry animation that makes no sense on where the actual parry frames are is the curved sword parry.
>>321723527
Also don't rush in, the Skeletons are grouped into 2s and can be pulled. The group over by the Zweihander can be awakened and then pulled one at a time if you approach carefully.
It's not a big deal, the Big ones are even easier than the duos as they are alone and all you need to do is get out of the way of their stomp and crushing attack, roll behind, Hit them with a 2 handed Mace R2 and they shatter into bones, Jump attack the bones for another hit in before it reforms.
That's about it.
>>321716947
>"Okay we need to just throw enemies at the player because that's how you do difficulty, right?"
Nigga, those kinda shit is EVERYWHERE in DaS.
The only differences between these 2 games is that DaS2 group placement is closer.
>>321723815
It's really irrelevant anyway with DS3 on the way so we can finally have that Miyazaki sequel.
I just resorted to rolling since it's so stupidly effective in DS2 you never need to bother parrying or even using a shield anyway, since shields are also a let down now and no longer useful.
Durability is literally the only difficult thing about DS2 at this point, that and soul memory matchmaking.
>>321723810
Or you simply have a different taste when it comes to dungeon.
>>321724150
The difference is better level design and gameplay so enemy grouping and placement in Dark Souls in general just flows much better for the most part.
in DS2 it's just sort of wherever,
