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>>321681665
>explore area
>kill stuff
>make it semi far
>die
>fuck it
>run through to where you died
>keep running through until shortcut
>die because of mobs chasing ass
>use shortcut
>kill boss
>get lost again
>>321682265
u madman
I CANT GET PAST THE FIRST FUCKING WEREWOLF! Do I seriously need to play Dark Souls before BB to stand a change against enemies? This is fucking nightmare fuel and it's first fucking enemy.
Level 40 something just beat that wolf bitch at the chapel thanks to some random guy I summoned. Beat that twin witch soloed her ass and I feel like I'm not supposed to be there yet.
Am I missing anything from the first map?
>>321683338
The first wolf in the clinic you wake up in? Or the first boss? Either way use the target mode and learn the pattern and parry/dodge
I've been playing here and there for like 4 months and only up to the forbidden woods. I feel like I stress to much about farming and getting every item. The game is so good though, I just feel like the pacing is slow but only because I'm a newb.
>>321683571
After you create your character and walk down the stairs this mother fucker just waits there. I don't even have weapons yet. Absolute dogshit. I knew this was going to be hard but seriously it's been almost 2 hours and I simply cant deal with this asshat munching around anymore.
>>321681665
Can someone summarize the story?
I AM BECOME CAULIFLOWER
>>321683951
Oh the very first guy, naw man just wait for him to attack, dodge, attack him a few times, Dodge rinse and repeat. Don't fret about it to much every enemy has a pattern just learn it and kill it.
sickdark witcher ripoff
sell it and get dark souls 2
>>321683951
Are you retarded?
>>321684129
>You are Ill and need this shit called Paleblood
>Yharnam is the home of blood ministration
>But the town is being fucked over by beasts
>Only way to survive is to become a Hunter
>Off you go
>>321681665
only started playing it due to not having a ps4 but so far its pretty good
>>321683951
On the off chance you're not baiting, when you die and get sent to the Hunter's Dream there are free weapons on the steps.
>>321684361
Why you gotta be rude anon?
Listen other anon it's a game not everyone is good at, especially if you've only plaid action games. You need to slow down and learn to git gud.
>>321684672
No, you need to learn how to equip a weapon
>>321684672
Don't tell me you actually bought that retards bait?
>>321683839
Farming in the woods is the hardest because the layout is so chaotic. I understand how you feel, once you pass that area things get a bit more linear so you can focus more on the game
>>321683461
I couldn't tell you m8 because I dont know.
>>321683951
I think you're supposed to die there, I mean you can beat him but once you die, don't you get teleported to the dream and get your weapons? Look around there man, once you get your wep he is ez pz.
>>321683951
>I don't even have weapons yet
I know you're shitposting now. When he kills you the first time it sends you to the dream and you pick up your starter weapon and firearm. Stop shitposting retard.
Bloodborne doesn't have an asylum demon moment.
>>321684923
Not everyone is a pro neet anon :^)
got it for christmas, I prefer the souls games still. Probably because it was more comfy
I literally just bought it five minutes ago. Only thing I remember from all the threads in the past is that insight lets me see things.
Looking forward to this.
>>321685171
Ahh being le epic trolled well played
>>321683461
Nah if you've done Old Yarnham then it's time to trigger the night by touching the skull.
I just want to say, how you approach this game mentally will change how you experience and enjoy the game.
If you approach the game with fear and feel as if you were thrown into an unforgiving world where you are the hunted, the game will be scary, stressful and sometimes unenjoyable.
If you approach the game with the mentality in which you embody a hunter, believe you were thrown into the chaotic world with a purpose and enemies are your prey then you will have a different experience.
Throughout the game you will take on both these roles inevitably, that's what makes the game so good because it fully imerses you
Orphan caused Blood Addling
Moon Presence caused Beast Scourge
Cainhurst Nobles are the remnants of the Pthumeru civilization
The baby is Mergo
Mergo's parents are Oedon and Queen Yharnam
The Nightmare is one big multilayered dimension
Kin are things that were human at one point or have their origins in humanity
Djura is right, beasts are people.
>>321681665
>Played all souls game
>Play this
>Get ridiculously lost, everything looks the same
>Have seen a couple of gameplay videos vs bosses
>Kill every single boss in 2-3 tries, including orphan
>Except rom, get raped by his spiders like 9 times
>beat game
>Make like 4 new characters with fucked up stats
>Finally on a good character for once
>Speedran chalice dungeons
>Now losing to amelia and cleric beast like 5 times in a row
pretty gud
>>321685367
Have fun, in fact go play the game now seriously.
>>321684129
>Ur dying m8
>Yarhnam has the cure
>If u want the cure u gotta become a hunter since the town is getting molested by monsters
>U become hunter
>Unlike any other retard hunter youre actually pretty gud
>Literally everything in Yarhnam is tied to the church
>Well ill go to the church
>See sum shit
>Apparently the church has been creating beasts
>Also theres a lot of faggots trying to someone great ones (gods)
>You kill everything (including some great ones)
>You also kill a great one that was actually summoned (mergo)
>the end
>oh and it was all a dream
It's fun, but fuck whoever thought farming healing items was a good idea. That wasn't fun in Demon's Souls and it still isn't. Limited supply creates tension, sure, but it just becomes tedious when you're stuck on something.
>>321685367
Before you make any choices you regret
Saw cleaver is for general play, and is a good choice no matter what character build you go for.
Hunter axe is for strength builds and hits hard with high stagger
Threaded cane is for skill builds and is fast and is a little weak early on, but gets better when you upgrade it and the scaling goes up, don't give up on it if you like the moveset.
>>321685571
Aye aye cap'n.
Wish me luck.
>>321685828
You're not supposed to farm vials, improve your doge/parry the game is difficult but it shouldnt be farming vials difficult
>>321685460
Where do you get all the Mergo lore? I never found anything that really clued me in to who he was. You can somewhat assume that he's the bastard of Yharnam and a Great One and maybe the first of his kind but I haven't pieced together anything beyond that.
I accidentally started NG+ and am now back at the beginning. Do I need to finish the game AGAIN to play the DLC?
Great game, giving it a rest after getting up to the shadows of Yharnam and dying lots.
Prob need to level up more.
Kirkhammer is good.
>>321685850
Hunter axe is quality you cunt.
>>321686183
You can enter the DLC after you finish Amelia (4th boss)
>>321686269
>B strength scaling
>D dex scaling
Do you not know what Quality is? By your definition every weapon in the game would be quality.
>>321686183
>Another bloody mary as a garnish
Brilliant. The pizza is really funny but another drink just takes it over the top.
>>321685876
>he is going to experience Bloodborne for the first time
>>321686183
kek I think so man, don't worry you should be pretty well versed by now.
>>321686036
No there's really no reason something as basic as healing should be an item you get through drops or shops. Dark Souls already had it perfect with estus. I understand these games are not exactly for casuals, but there should never be a moment when a newer player is grinding a tough boss and suddenly finds themselves with an unmanageable handicap. That doesn't promote gitting gud, it just causes people to get frustrated and drop the game.
>>321681665
I'm really enjoying it so far, just got past Gascoigne. The only complaint I have is that the fps is hard to get used to after pretty much only playing pc games for the past ear
>>321686172
>The baby is formless with nothing but a voice
>Oedon is formless with nothing but a voice
>Queen Yharnam seems deeply concerned for Mergo's welfare
>Queen Yharnam is wearing a ring of betrothal
>Mergo is an active participant in the Queen Yharnam fight right down to some of her attacks involving her stroking her swollen womb to make him use arcane magic
>Blood Rapture says the Queen carried the "Child of Blood"
>The essence of Oedon is blood.
make sense yet?
>>321686518
>there's really no reason something as basic as healing should be an item you get through drops or shops
>>321686436
Nope.
quality is pretty clear cut in bb
if it gives you more points in the other stat after 25 it is quality.
That is basic math you fucking idiot
almost all quality weapons scale initially better with strength. Except only I think the saw spear
A strength weapon is the best with a strength build meaning even after 25 it would still be better to go into strenght instead of skill.
Same with skill.
>>321685068
Not him, but the first time I saw those things on the steps I thought they were messages and ran past them.
It's pretty good so far. Only thing I dislike is how you're forced to die at the start, I ran past the first werewolf and continued through Central Yharnam, eventually getting killed by a peasant.
In Old Yharnam right now, just attempted Blood-starved Beast for the 1st time but the fucker killed me in his last form. Seems pretty easy overall though.
>>321686573
So the baby being formless and only a voice is canon? I figured it never shows up because it's a dream or because From drew the line at showing infant mutilation.
>>321687073
>Only thing I dislike is how you're forced to die at the start
If you're autistic enough you can run all the way through Yharnam to the sewers and grab the saw spear without ever dying.
Or you could just use the lantern and return to the dream without having to die.
>not lining your brain with eyes
>>321687091
It's empty. I've had people try to dismiss it with excuses, but it's one of the final bosses in the game and a major plot climax. It also explains why the crying is audible everywhere.
>>321687198
I reached the lantern, I did run away a lot tho.
Got rekd on Gassy four times until I learned to DODGE! and then smoked him.
Now getting hammered by the guy on the gatling gun at the top of the tower.
Explored other parts but need a password to get into some church basement.
>>321687387
>I reached the lantern
Well then you weren't forced to die.
Can't find a fun weapon. Used cleaver, axe, and tonitrus for awhile, but basically all they're good for is R1 spam and an occasional R2 from the axe.
For being called trick weapons, nothing I've found so far seems very tricky. No stabby ricard's rapier, no spin2win halberd, no santiers, etc
>>321687248
I thought this was an ASSassree style screenshot just hair and eyes.
>>321687486
I'm not that other poster.
Just finished the Old Hunters for the second time. First as BLT/SKL, second as STR/ARC.
I swear to god, I have no idea why some bosses are easy as fuck on one run and hard as fuck on the other. I was level 80 on my BLT/SKL character and fucked the DLC over on my first try. Ludwig went down without a hitch. Then suddenly I switch to my 110 ARC character with all these cool tools and whatnot and I'm getting my fucking ass handed to me by every boss except Maria. Kos took me two fucking hours, holy shit. I got so angry I screamed multiple times. This is on a character that fucking burns through Depth 5 Chalice Dungeons while the BLT character struggles through them like slugs through salt.
Absolutely fantastic game, though. The sense of satisfaction you get when you finally bring down the boss you've been struggling with is unparalleled.
>>321687523
How is the hunter axe not almost exactly like the spin2win halberd.
Not sure how far you are into the game but try to get to Cainhurst. I feel like you would like the weapon you find there.
>>321687248
exactly what is happening here
>>321687437
>Explored other parts but need a password to get into some church basement.
You get that from killing Vicar Amelia and then getting a cutscene
>>321686269
Hunter's axe is literally the Drake Sword of BB.
The Saw cleaver is a much better all around weapon all game.
I'm at the wolves on the bridge. When is the next fucking checkpoint
>>321687523
Hunter's Axe has a charged spin-to-win R2, and the Reiterpallasch is pretty good for a rapier, but the real fun weapons are a lot tougher to find than the Tonitrus. The most fun weapons in the base game are the Chikage, the Blades of Mercy and the Threaded Cane, but the real good shit is in the DLC (I'm talking Whirligig Saw, Holy Moonlight Sword, Rakuyo, et cetera).
>>321687786
Quality meaning a weapon scaling equally well with strength and dex/skill
Its a demon's souls term.
>>321687523
>spin2win halberd
Pick up the hunters axe, go trick form, hold R2, then when they get up hold R2 again, you got your spin to win.
>>321687523
>ricard's rapier
There is a rapier. Go to cainhurst
>spin2win halberd
I think you were using the axe wrong
>santiers
rifle spear/saw spear
>>321687878
Past them up ahead lol, or go kill cascoigne.
>>321687774
I haven't even found her yet.
Just fought the two hunters down by the well thing, then ran the only other way from that area to find a big, empty circular room that had been guarded by two snipers and two big axe trolls.
>>321687320
No, no. That actually makes a shit ton of sense. I really wish this game had a better fleshed out lore. Piecing fucking everything together through vague item descriptions is annoying. Bloodborne basically has my dream 10/10 universe (Edwardian Gothic + Lovecraftian Cosmic horror) but it's all so sparse.
>>321688050
Vicar Amelia is in the giant church on the stairs.
>>321687878
Spring past them, cut a hard left down some stairs, find the stairs on the right side in the dark house, exit through the door on the left of the first floor, and go straight ahead until you reach a lantern. If it sounds overwhelming, the wolves can't follow you into the building. Just keep running.
>>321687878
you don't have to fight them, but right next them you open up a shortcut to the bridge from the first lamp by going through a dark house and opening up the gate beyond it
What's a good build to maximize the bowblade?
what is the best weapon lads? I've veen using the saw spear for ages. Might go out hunting for a new wep if there are any better ones
I fucking love Bloodborne. I've played it for more than 600 hours and I'm still not sick of it. I wasn't crazy about the game until the DLC, but now it's almost as good as Demon's Souls.
>>321688271
I like the kekhammer and the sawblade. With the whip on the side.
>>321688118
there's a lot of lore but it's all very speculative, much more than any previous souls game
it's deep enough so that if you sink your teeth into it there's a lot to uncover though
>>321688326
The DLC really made the game.
It is so good it almost makes me angry because some of this shit should've been in the base game. Like the fucking Beast form for example.
>>321686269
I've beaten the game with all 3 starting weapons, saw is much better than the axe because the speed makes it easy to stunlock werewolves
Saw > axe > cane because cane has pretty shit damage
>>321688502
WAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH MY MEME MODE WAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>321688486
And the uncovering aspect is how it should be. Lovecraft's stories revolved around letters and testimonials and profane relics. There just needs to be way more. I want some Metroid Prime level shit.
>>321688502
I agree. The weapons are obscenely better. I can't even imagine not having the Holy Moonlight Sword or the Whirligig Saw or Church Pick. It sucks that the DLC is SO goddamned hard because even though it's accessible fairly early on you simply cannot tackle it that early in the game.
>>321688826
see >>321687969
Quality doesn't mean it is better.
Quality means it is a weapon best used with both strength and dex
Saw Cleaver is also a quality weapon.
>>321681665
Didn't like demons souls. Something about the move me t system. Tried dark souls 1. Loved it. Got bloodborne with Xmas money. It's beautiful. I like that it's broad daylight for everything so far. Getting used to dodging instead of blocking was a bit of a trial. Also really liked that the safe zone was more like demons souls. I like it being it's own area. Also liking the trick weapon combos.
>>321688271
Before the DLC I'd probably say
Holy blade and chikage, now with the DLC it's the pizzacutter. Haven't used all of the other new weapons but the consensus is the pizzacutter.
So im doing my first playthrough and im currently stuck on The one reborn boss. I only have a saw cleaver 8+ and im level 67.
Any tips? or do I need to level up some more befor I fight him?
>>321684129
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1k7ST7Ysc9I3s6zLXr-DOzWjoAtu6afOOCaU3ucCdBDk/mobilebasic
>>321688903
That is not even an argument did you have a stroke?
Gascoigne basically teases a beast mode and it was strangely absent.
if anyone in here is playing for the first time and going arcane you'll need to know a few things because it's pretty badly implemented
1. serrated weapons get bonus damage against beasts, so the unextended toothed cleaver gets it but trick mode doesn't because it unfolds into a blade
2. beasts are weak against fire, kin against bolt, pthumerians against arcane
3. when you put an elemental into a pure physical weapon it coverts 100% of the damage to that element and will only scale from arcane
4. weapons with split damage (like 50 arcane and 120 physical) are shit for arcane builds because the 50 is gets scaled up, so 20% extra damage doesn't net you much
5. chalice dungeons are good for getting early game elemental gems, you can farm the very first boss for fire gems
6. if you just want to wreck shit and not worry too much about your build leave arcane until a repeat playthrough
>>321689302
No that should be high enough.
You are killing the bell witches first, right?
Maybe try using fire/bolt paper and some beast blood pellets.
>>321689049
you can just run past stuff if you know what you're doing so s'all good for repeat playthroughs
for first time playthroughs it kinda sucks though because you've already invested in other weapons
>>321689302
Hit his midsection until he stagger. The part that pivots on the ground. Take out of the wizard bitches first. Once he stagger hit the undead man portion of his body. Rinse and repeat until dead.
>>321689513
To get to the good weapons you have to beat ludwig though.
Which for some reason is the hardest boss of the dlc.
>>321689414
also arcane is hands down the most fun and varied build and it dominates pve once you're done with your build
it's not gimped in pvp but a good quality build is probably better
>>321685460
Was it the Orphan that cause the Blood Addling?
That strange fish guy talks about the "wrath of Mother Kos".
And is the blood what the Orphan cursed? Same shit happened with Loran and they had shit all to do with Kos. Was it the nightmare the hunters were forever plunged into his actual curse?
>>321689778
Not skill?
I feel like when it comes to pvp skill is the most dangerous build.
The rakuyo is just straight up unfair.
>>321689650
whirligig saw, amygdala arm, beast cutter, the saif, gattling gun are all before ludwig
but ya you'll miss out on some
So what's the deal with that bird looking chick killing other hunters?
>>321689783
>"wrath of Mother Kos".
Sure. Orphan or Kos. One or the other. I feel they're interchangeable. Also there's the issue of Kos being dead the whole time. She washed up as a carcass on the Hamlet's shores.
> Same shit happened with Loran
No. They got hit with Beast Scourge. There's zero evidence that Pthumerians dealt with Blood Addling.
>Was it the nightmare the hunters were forever plunged into his actual curse?
I'd say it's both the Nightmare and the Curse at once. Eventually if you're enough of a blood using murder monster, you go insane and get dragged into a horrible nightmare. It's one big punishment.
>>321687437
FEAR
THE
OLD
BLOOD
>>321689994
since pvp is around 120-150 these days you'd have enough points to get strength and skill to their soft caps
generally skill weapons have lousy pvp movesets though, they're high damage and aggressive but they leave themselves open
>>321687437
Get him to fall off the tower it's what I did
just finished my first playthrough of vanilla bloodborne not long ago
i just wanna know how useful magic stuff is?
and do the magic items just do static damage or do they increase with your arcane skill?
I like this game but hate how there are only white people and monsters in the gym. Where all the asians and black people? racist as fuck
I am in Nova Scotia right now with my girlfriends family. I live in Alberta. When I get back next week I am probably going to get this if nobody bought it for me. Is this worth a play? I disliked Dark Souls though, but I wonder if this game is any different.
If not I think I'm going to buy TW3.
>>321690379
very useful but the stuff with the most utility only requires something like 15-20 arcane iirc
they scale all the way up to 99
>>321690386
When, long ago, the gods created Earth
In Jove's fair image Man was shaped at birth.
The beasts for lesser parts were next designed;
Yet were they too remote from humankind.
To fill the gap, and join the rest to Man,
Th'Olympian host conceiv'd a clever plan.
A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure,
Filled it with vice, and called the thing a Nigger.
>>321686818
>I have ADHD please kill me
How do i beat level 1
>>321690638
if you disliked dark souls because you found it tedious or too difficult without enough roleplaying or whatever go for witcher 3, it's also a really good game
>>321690762
>level 1
So is this a level based game or is it freeroam? I havent played this yet.
>>321690681
thanks anonalso i only found about 4 or 5 spells first time
>>321690638
I think Dark Souls is shit but BB is fun. If you like action games its pretty good.
>>321690691
virgin
>>321681665
is there some way to get a stable playable framerate? i'm just running around the starter area and the graveyard you go when you die and i'm constantly chugging. this shit is unacceptable.
i'm not even fighting a huge boss with a ton of effects or spells or anything i'm literally just running around empty areas and getting sub-20 fps
>>321681665
Is there a Quality build in this game? always been my favorite. I'm going to pick it up tomorrow.
>>321690823
Actually it had nothing to do with difficulty. I just found the UI and menus and everything incredibly poorly designed. It just made the game kind of unenjoyable. Its a shame too because I really gave the game a fair chance but I just couldnt get past that.
>>321685817
Only the Hunter's Dream and the Nightmare are a dream. Everything else that happened actually happened. The blood, the beasts, the great ones all exist. You just shut down certain aspects of these dreamsor ascend as a great one to create your own dreams.
>>321691095
bb is only a little better in that respect
So do any of the DLC enemies drop arcane gems?
>>321689432
I've tried using fire/bolt paper but for some reason the game wont let me use them with the saw cleaver
>>321681665
I've had the game for about a year and never played it due to long loading times but decided to pick it back up 2 weeks ago and just beat the main story currently on NG+1 playing the dlc.That son of a bitch Kos is destroying me. Him and those Living Failure fellas have annihilated me asshole.
>>321690921
kek
its an open world with branching paths into towns
each town could be considered a level...kind of. anyway the game is exclusively combat, skyrim kiddies beware
>>321691226
Actually they're going by Lovecraft's definition of nighymare/dream. He believed what you saw actually happened. In a different dimension. So the whole thing is a dream except where it's not. Depending upon the influence of the old ones and their followers the separate dimensions just become not so separate.
>>321691515
if you're using an arcane weapon you can't put fire paper and stuff on them
>>321691093
You got a large choice to go off with quality, you can't go wrong with it.
>>321691226Dream work differently to our real dreams, as they transfer your consciousness to another plane. It's how Micolash was able to contine on dispite his body being dead.
QUICK GUYS DESCRIBE THE BEST / MOST POWERFUL GEMS YOU'VE FOUND IN THE GAME SO FAR AND WHERE YOU'VE FOUND THEM AT
>>321691095
nightmares and dreams are the domain of the great ones, they're other dimensions essentially
>>321691717
>Living failures
What? All you really need to do is sprint round them and attack one of em every now and again.
Use that magic shield if your really need to.
If you beat Ludwig, you have no business losing to them
>>321691093
truth be told most weapons have extremely modest lvl requirements. the only weapon that requires a huge investment is the cannon at 30 STR. reiterpallash might require high skill as well.
ANOTHER QUESTION
are there any tricks to accessing the dlc stuff like there was in dank souls: prepare to die?
think i saw one anon mention you can get it on ng+ or somethingbtw i haven't read the entire thread
>>321691796
Ah okay thanks for the help.
>>321691893
you have to do random deep chalice dungeons for the best. going through all of the base dungeons the best i got was a tempering gem +19.5%
>>321692137
All you need to do is beat Amelia.
An item should spawn in the Dream
>>321692137
you can access it anytime after killing vicar amelia. obviously you can do it on NG+ too but prepare your asshole.
>>321692062
That's what I've been hearing from fucking everyone. Maria was easy, Ludwig was easy, but the living failures have an astronomically huge amount of health and it took me a grand 3 or 4 minutes to beat them. I think the issue is I started the DLC on NG+1 at level 100 and from what I hear 80-100 is the level you should be going in on your first run through the game. My vit was at 25 so they would often kill me in two hits
>>321691893
You'll find the best gems in cursed max level chalice dungeons.
Cursed dungeons cut your health in half and cursed gems come with a bad effect that ranges from not much of a problem to completely ruins the gem.
Have fun with that.
>>321692274
>>321692383
oh ok thanks anons
>>321691893
FRC Chalice dungeons.
Base game has pretty awful gems. Best you'll probably get are the cursed ones from mensis. The DLC has some decent drops.
>blazing through cainhurst
>lose frustrating amounts of vials to the faggot albino bloodsack spiders
>"Good thing I'll never have to deal with them again!"
>enter dlc
FOR WHAT PURPOSE
>>321690016
She used to be a pretty good hunter and was a part of the hunter's dream. One day she stopped dreaming, either by her own choice orGehrman's.
She hunts other hunters who become blood crazed. Although now she's doing it while technically mortal, which is a bit of a bad idea.
>>321681665
Got it like a month ago and am thoroughly enjoying it. I just bought the DLC and currently am trying to shove a whirligig up Laurence's ass. Good times.
Just beat Cleric Beast and I really like the game so far, started out with the Saw and blunderbuss. Should i buy the kirk and the new pistol or should I put my echoes into stats?
>>321681665
Just finished my first playthrough including dlc. It was fun but I'm starting to get burnt out. Ludwig was hot bullshit also.
>>321691893
In the base game and DLC, the best gems come from Winter Lanterns. They drop cursed gems up to like +20.3%. DLC is like 22% maybe. Lowest level chalices can be farmed for 27.8%. Most curses other than HP depletion isn't really an issue. Durability is only a problem for stuff like the Tonitrus, stamina usage is probably one of the best curses because of how meaningless 2-3% stamina is, and damage to kin down only affects like 4 enemies in the entire game and you'll know when to switch out the gem.
>>321682265
I've played all the souls games and only on very few occasions have I skipped enemies. Seriously, just take it slow and don't spam or attack without thinking. Learn your weapon's moveset, all of it. The roll attack, the jump attack, the running attach, the power move, the simple slash, the heavy slash and the transformation attack. Learn them in and out of trickmode and use what move best suits the situation. You'll be fine, it's only really bosses that can fuck you up, you shouldn't be dying in the levels.
Where's the best place to farm chunks?
Just beat Rom, lvl 79, too scared to go into Yahargul with my weapon only at +7.
I'm playing like I play all Souls games, no summons, no notices.
>>321692820
Don't forget the -8% damage curse, that's a fun one to get.
>>321691749
Yeah I noticed that things from dreams would seep into the real world. Like how all those Witches summoned the One Reborn from the moon. That's a bit of a nightmarish bullshit.
>>321692465
>The DLC has some decent drops.
Do any of the enemies drop arcane gems?
Is there a way to gather the materials for Loran/Isz chalice without going through all the Pthumeru chalices?
>>321681665
Glad I only paid 20 bucks for it. Just another Souls game but with a blood gimmick and slightly better graphics.
>>321689414
I went Arcane simply because I wanted to use the flame sprayer
>>321692630
I just ran past those cunts in Cainhurst. Everything after them was a breeze.
>>321692761
If you like heavy weapons, hold onto the axe and upgrade to the Holy Blade when you get the chance. Kirkhammer is slow as balls and you can stagger just as well with the axe.Tonitrus is my weaponfu
WHO /SAIF/ HERE?
>>321692937
Nowhere to farm chunks, you gotta pick them up as treasures. There's a couple in Yahar'gul, but there's more in the Nightmare of Mensis.
>>321692630
The ones in the DLC are significantly weaker than those fat jackasses in Cainhurst.
>>321692937
you can buy them at the insight vendor or farm them from the later chalice dungeon bosses
>>321692820
Slight correction to my numbers. Base game lanterns can go up to 19.8% tempering, and chalices go to 27.2%. I'm not sure what the DLC ones drop at best, but it's on the lower side of 20. My highest is 22.3%.
>>321693524
Alright, another question: should I keep upgrading my Hunter's Axe?
Is it viable till the end? Or is another weapon better? I've hardly used anything else, I basically grinded and spin2win my way through the game so far.
>>321690272
I was going to try that if I couldn't win legit. It's his fucking blunderbuss that is ruining my day, as it seems he is not limited to the 20 shot limited before using HP to get more.
>>321693751
Every weapon is viable, use whatever one you like. With the dlc that are enough materials to upgrade two weapons to max without grinding.
>>321693890
I don't have the DLC yet but I'm planning to buy it.
Can I go at once or is it post-game?
>>321693751
The hunter axe is a solid all round weapon, you can't go wrong with it.
>>321693524
You can farm chunks in the Upper Cathedral Ward. High discovery is recommended though. Can't farm rocks.
So I just killed Amygdala, gonna got for Daughter of Cosmos now, but one thing that I've noticed is that it doesn't seem like the weapons do as much damage to bosses and normal enemies as you progress, and they seem to get stronger from area to area faster than when progressing in Dark Souls. Now, I enjoy how it feels like I'm making progress, but at the same time, it feels like in NG+ and onwards, the enemies (mobs and bosses) will just be health sponges. Is this true, or no?
>>321693751
Just pick whatever you like the most. I went with Ludwig's Holy Greatsword for most of my playthroughs. Beast Claws in another. Right now I'm trying out Moonlight Greatsword and the Tonitrus.
New Game plus is a thing, and you can upgrade more stuff on subsequent playthroughs.
>>321694025
Most people day the optimum time for the DLC is right before the final boss.
>>321690975
Uneducated, illiterate pleb.
>>321681665
>no physical version in the West
FUCK EVERYTHING.
>>321681665
How do I just stop being so fucking bad.
I can't even kill this one big ass dude behind a wheel cart at the beginning of the game.
>>321694126
Have you been doing chalice dungeons? You need to stay on top of gems.
>>321694101
The little scrabbler thing in Cainhurst also drops chunks.
>>321692904
but killing every enemy makes you overleveled.
i'm with the guy you quoted, i kill everything at least once but after that I don't want too many souls
>>321693524
There are a handful of enemies that can drop chunks, but they're a pain to farm. Late game werewolves like the skeleton ones and the ones in the nursery. I think gargoyles (extremely rare) in cainhurst, and that one big-ass dude in the lecture building. Most people farmed the werewolves in upper cathedral ward, but even that's a real grind.
Meanwhile it's really easy to farm them via chalice dungeons, but by the time you get to where you can grind them you've probably committed to one or two weapons anyway.
>>321694252
Nothing but yourself here,
therefore ignoring is effective
>>321694252
How did you stop being bad at every other game you've ever played?
Just play more, it's easier than most Souls games.
>>321694252
You can't really fight him if you're starting off. That's why he's kinda hidden.
>>321694252
Are you using your gun at all? Are you dodging at the right time/the right direction?
Just practice your timing. Especially with your gun. You can parry a lot of shit in this game. The reward is greater than the risk with parrying.
I'm getting my shit wrecked on the second boss, that hunter that turns into a werewolf. Also trying to figure out what everything does and how stuff works. Going from Demon's Souls to Dark Souls didn't have much of a change, mostly everything worked the same even if it was named differently.
>>321681665
Which weapon do I pick?
>>321689414
I don't know about this guy but the first time I played the game blind with an arcane build I wrecked everyone's shit.
Mostly with Fire Ludwig's and Arcane Beast Cutter, Logarius call from beyond Ebrietas augur and tiny tonitrus. This is at level 80 and even the Orphan is a cakewalk
The only boss that made me squirm is Laurence andCleric Beast.
>>321685378
what happens if you trigger night before old yharnham?
>>321694459
Did you get the music box? And stock up on motlovs.
>>321694459
Stop playing it like Dark Souls and play it like the game tells you.
Use your gun and parry him, all of his attacks can be parried. Shoot when he's about to attack and then R1 him.
Talk to a little girl on in a window and she'll give you a music box, use that on him to stagger him a couple times.
>>321691893
My saw has all +22.3% physical attack droplets, with curses for -11% against kin, -11% against beasts, and +3% stamina costs. Got them from farming the two winter lanterns below the lighthouse hut.
>>321694557
Old Yharnam is entirely optional.
>>321694294
I don't really understand Chalice Dungeons/Gems at all.
I know people are against this but playing BB makes me want a game that mixes the souls style with an armored core aesthetic. Like...player mechs from 2.5-4 meters tall. No bigger than that. Have them go wild with the design. Use Tesla's wireless electricity concept with everyone being plugged into a grid for the whole souls thing where you keep coming back from death. Throw in aliens for some really odd tech. Not little green men. Something actually strange. Rampant and helpful AI. I think something like that has potential. We'll probably never are it though.
>>321693131
Most likely, though I can't tell you exactly where.
As for the materials, you'll get some from the base game but probably not enough to make a chalices.
>>321694252
i'm sorta new also anon, but you're probably gunna want to level up your vit a bunch
played the other dark souls but adjusting the bloodborne was pretty tough
and having a lot of vit will keep you from dropping dead at the drop of a hat because without the usual shield you're going to fuck up. a lot.plus that executioner guy is sort of an enemy that is much stronger than anything else in that area i think
>>321694459
Don't get me wrong but you need to learn how to time dodges better, the enemies in this game are far more relentless and they punish careless dodging, don't treat this like the last souls games it's a surefire way to die.
>>321681665
This game is really fun, just beat Father Gascoigne. Werewolf form kept two shotting me but I eventually kicked his ass.
How long till I get those blood rocks that upgrade my weapon?
>>321694459
>second boss
I thought he was the first boss?
>>321695272
I consider him the third boss, but the other two are technically optional.
>>321695272
>How long till I get those blood rocks that upgrade my weapon?
i think until you literally climb the ladder after that boss fight
Will someone help me beat living failures and then Maria?
>>321685460
why did Moon Presence create the beast scourge?
>Beat Ludwig days ago
>Beat him on NG+ at first try
>Help an anon beat him at NG++ where the fag one shots with almost everything
>Can't beat him with my level 60 Skill character due to shit damage
>>321694930
It's simple really, after you get the chalice from bloodstarved beast just plop one down in the hunters dream and go in there.
The normal chalice dungeons are fixed so they'll be the same every time, and you'll be able to afford the ritual requirements for the next one by getting all the material out of the previous, if you can't afford the next one just explore a bit.
From there you get gems from bosses or whatever, just shove whatever's best into your weapon and it just works.
>>321695550
>Needing help with Maria
just parry m8
>>321695689
Because Pthumerians in Loran sired Bastard Children. Yharnam is affected because they used old blood from Loran. MP cares about reproduction and such.
>>321695272
You should already have a couple blood shards to upgrade your weapon a little, or at least right after him. The game doles them out pretty slowly. Blood shards, then twin blood shards, then chunks, then a final Blood Rock, which you won't get until the end of the game.
Gascoigne is the first compulsory boss of the game, he can be the second boss, Cleric Beast being an optional first. Vicar Amelia is also the second compulsory boss, but Blood Starved Beast and Witches of Himwick are optional bosses that could be fought first.
>>321695272
Gascoigne is the first mandatory boss but Cleric Beast is in the area too and is technically closer to where you start.
>>321694223
aww touch a nerve did I?
I bought BB on black friday. It's my first souls game and while I was shit I do love the game. I'm now trying to beat Ebrietas and her charge attack is the worst.
I tried Cainhurst too but those spider things in the beginning keep wrecking my ass
>>321695831
>Vicar Amelia is also the second compulsory boss
In NG+ this is true but on a fresh character you must defeat either Cleric Beast or Blood-Starved Beast before you can reach Amelia.
>>321695757
Low level character that barely does any damage.
I run past everything. I just want to reach Kos.
>>321692465
Can someone please explain to me what the fuck Open Enemies means because I still have yet to figure that out.
Also why does every gem I pick up off those sluggy mother fuckers in the DLC at the bottom of the fishing hamlet never appear in my inventory - poorman's and fool's gems.
>>321696095
"open" hits are how BB refers to "counter" hits. If you know about Dark/Demon's Souls, you know what this means.
>>321695993
Oh right, I remember you have to get the sword hunter badge off of Cleric Beast for the Hunter Chief Emblem.
What does Blood Starved Beast do though? How can you get to Vicar Amelia from him? Is it through the Healing Church Workshop?
>>321695989
>I tried Cainhurst too but those spider things in the beginning keep wrecking my ass
Ignoring is effective.
>>321696226
Once you beat him some door opens in the chapel where you send everyone.
>>321689414
>4. weapons with split damage (like 50 arcane and 120 physical) are shit for arcane builds because the 50 is gets scaled up, so 20% extra damage doesn't net you much
So the Moonlight Sword is shit, or what is needed to make it cause good damage?
>>321696095
I know immediately after the DLC, those gems were invisible. After the most recent patch the other day, they suddenly showed up in my inventory for me.
>>321696226
Yeah, killing BSB opens the door to the healing church workshop. If you fall down the tower there past the old abandoned workshop there's a little alley that'll take you back to cathedral ward behind the second gate.
>>321696467
Oh that's right, cool.
>>321695996
How long does it take to get to Living Failures from Ludwig? I don't remember. I have a character there that could help you.
>>321696280
Moonlight Sword is great because it's special. It's split damage is already there without affecting it's overall damage. The best gems to put on it would be all ATK up, not just physical. ATK up gems will boost the physical and the arcane damage. This works same for Tonitrus.
>>321681665
I just bought a PS4 on boxing day, picked up the GOTY edition. Man is it fun. No real questions, but I am enjoying it thus far.
>>321695451
>>321695831
Guess I should do more exploring and keep my eyes open for them.
Thanks for the info anons.
>>321696280
It's not a bad weapon but it doesn't benefit an arcane build very much since the damage is plit, except for the projectiles which deal purely arcane damage.
What's the lore behind the pale guys in the chalice dungeons? Are they just zombies?
>>321696843
>>321696929
I mean if doing an Arcane build. I want to play with all the arcane items, and I liked the moveset on the sword so I was hoping to use it.
>>321697070
You'd probably need an Arcane and Strength build for it. If you found a lot of arcane gems for it then it'd probably be viable. Especially for the ranged attacks it does.
>>321696769
It doesn't take much. I can summon you at the start of the research hall so you don't need to go near the boss gate and waste time.
>>321695890
It's not touching a nerve. Don't pretend like you're trolling. You're just stupid. I responded to an obvious Tumblrista bait with one of Lovecraft's own poems to illustrate why anything inspired by his work might ever be construed as even remotely racist. Nothing virginal about actually having read books, you dirt-worshipping cock socket.
Will this version ever release in the us?
>I was 90% certain my gf had gotten me a ps4 for Christmas
>box was perfect shape and weight
>she kept dropping hints and references to a ps4
>get myself hyped for weeks to play Bloodborne
>Christmas comes
>it was a piece of shit 50$ record player
I dont want to feel this /v/
>>321697070
You're going to be way more effective taking a weapon that does purely physical damage and adding an elemental gem to it.
>>321696316
so you're saying I actually had them the whole time, and just couldn't see them / use them
>>321681665
When i can get a used ps4 with Bloodborne for less than 100 yurobucks im fucking getting it.
>>321697227
All right, give me a couple of minutes to get there and I'll drop another message.
>>321697423
>>321697201
Ah fuck, guess I'll do a pure moonlight build later then. I want the pure arcane shit first.
>>321697370
>be a piece of shit bf
>cry about being to poor to buy a console.
>get cucked
>cry again
>>321685460
Are you a fucking retard? This post is completelycorrect and I'm glad someone understands that the beast plague is almost certainly more related to the Moon Presence rather than Kos/Orphan.
Though, I got the impression Laurence and Gherman beckoned the Moon Presence after they formed the Healing Church, and hunters were already around by that time, so shouldn't beasts have existed before the Moon Presence got involved? I personally think the plague of beasts is evolution without courage, like that one note in Byrgenwerth says: it makes humans evolve but sort of exaggerates their flaws and beastliness so they become werewolves.
>>321695820
Only problem is
>Pthumerians in Loran
I'm pretty sure Loran was another human land/city. The Pthumerians all lived in Pthumeru, the capital of which was Ihyll. Though I guess if Loran got fucked by the plague of the beasts, they must have had access to Great One blood, which means they must have had their own chalice dungeons (the ones you explore in game?) where they found slumbering/dead Great Ones, so Loran might very well have had its own Pthumerians or equivelant (forgive me if Pthumerian enemies do actually show up in that dungeon - I've never used a Loran chalice).
The Moon Presence is fucking weird. It does seem to manipulate you into killing Mergo, but then why would it want to do that if Great Ones love having kids? Does it just like being a dick and killing other Great Ones' kids?
>>321697370
You don't deserve even that, faggot.
>>321683461
If you've touched the skull, go down to the plaza below the Cathedral and look for a great big door with a guy who asks for a password (which you should already know) ; this door will take you to the next mandatory area.
I recommend that you just explore every other area first, though, lest the next area kick your ass.
>>321697647
>so shouldn't beasts have existed before the Moon Presence got involved?
Yes. From Loran and the Old Blood.
>>321695413
Wait which one can you do besides Cleric Beast?
I'm pretty sure you can only access the Blood Starved Beast after Cascoigne.
>>321697370
>record player
what the fuck though. is your gf a time traveller or just a hipster? who the fuck could want a record player?
>>321681665
>got for xmas
>Played for about an hour or so
>Fought some dudes, dogs, couple big guys, those half-wolf dudes and rats in the sewer, those two werevolves on the bridge
>Made a few roundabouts to open up a couple shortcut doors
>Haven't fought a boss yet
>Foughtbare handed for twenty minutes and without a gun for an hour because I thought I would find my first bit of gear along the way and not from a series of little skeletons on the stairs of the dream
It's alright.
>>321697647
>I'm pretty sure Loran was another human land/city.
It's part of the chalice dungeons. All chalices are part of the subterranean labyrinth below Yharnam. It's populated heavily by the same Pthumerians we find in every other chalice type. The mere fact that Loran dungeons are always "Depth 4" or lower supports this robustly.
> The Pthumerians all lived in Pthumeru, the capital of which was Ihyll.
No. they lived inside the Labyrinth which was so big they had to name various segments of it.
>>321690691
Oh Lovecraft, if you where still alive you would browse 4chan wouldn't you?
>>321696280
You have a few options with it.
You can not really care about the arcane at all, and treat it as you would Ludwig's (probably 50/25). In its normal form, it does similar damage to Ludwig's (a lot) with similar stats, even in its one-handed form where you can use a gun. Use pure physical gems. It basically has permanent arcane resin built in, and gets a small flat arcane damage boost in 2H form, but I wouldn't really bother using its 2H form with this setup unless you need vertical slices.
If you want to boost your arcane to 25 to include that in the equation, it might be best to go nourishing gems (+% all damage). The outcome will be a slightly worse 1H form, and better 2H form and much better projectiles (which are pure arcane damage).
You can also go like 25 strength, 50 arcane, and use flat arcane damage gems with a phys% up secondary. This will probably be the strongest for the 2H form, with a significantly weaker 1H form.
All of these will do a ton of damage, but obviously in different ways and play-styles. However, at the end of the day it's a quality weapon across 3 stats, so it's going to require more levels to get going, and won't be as simple as taking a pure physical weapon and converting it to pure arcane.
>>3216958>>321697938
Yeah I was remembering wrong. I was thinking of the bsb for some reason.
>>321689302
If he starts vomiting, you need to run to the slightly elevated area on the sides under the witches and the shelter, as it will fill up the whole arena, excluding those elevated areas.
>>321697983
Vinyl players are nice.
>>321698106
Unfuckingdoubtedly. A lot of the eccentric writers of the 19th and early 20th century sound like they would just squander their time on the Internet today. Poe, Nietzsche, et cetera.
>>321697227
What's the password?
Got set back because I forgot to get that shit needed for the elevator.
>>321694518
Same here. My Tonitrus fucking destroyed a lot of the game, and then I got the Moonlight Greatsword. Wew.
>>321697493
Yeah, the game kept track of them, but wasn't displaying them in your inventory properly. The path fixed that.
>>321697983
Vinyl as a format is actually making a resurgence.
>>321697370
Faggotry as an artform is making a resurgence.
so my end build is 20vit 20end 50str 50skl, is this a bad idea?
just killed amelia in NG+, so far feels great but I want to be able to beat DLC
>>321698079
Ailing Loran Chalice
>Loran is a tragic land that was devoured by the sands
>The tragedy that struck this ailing land of Loran is said to have it's roots in the scourge of the beast. Some have made the dreaded extrapolation that Yharnam may be next.
Says it right there. Loran is another land
>>321683338
Go get a weapon from the hunters dream when you die
I don't know where to find all the cool stuff in this game.
How do I shoot tentacles out of my hand?
Where that boss looking wheel weapon the summons I pick have sometime.
Where is cainhurst castle
>>321698546
Password: 123
on my, hold on.
Gonna ring my bell at the start.
>>321695241
>>321694459
You also need to make sure that you're dodging in the right direction. It's pretty common for the game to relentlessly punish you when you try and dodge backwards.
>>321698658
20 vit is gonna be rough, unless you never get hit.
>>321692904
Difference is BB has a shitton more enemies in one area than any of the souls games plus they all seem to hit quite hard or just rush you, taking it slow gets boring if you die multiple times or just die because you're taking it too slow and get fucked over, it isn't easy to maul things in BB I find at earlier levels than in souls, also because stun locking isn't that good as it was in souls.
>>321698617
Vinyls sound way better as well.
I just want a record player to play Zeppelin though. In my house though like a normal person
>>321698672
>Loran is another land
No. It says Loran is a land. That doesn't exclude it from the Pthumerian civilization. Loran is still populated with Watchers and Sackmen and Bell Maidens. All of which are Pthumerians. I'm pretty sure it's not even locked out from getting "Pthumerian Descendant" or "Pthumerian Elder" as bosses in Root dungeons.
>>321697909
>>321698079
>Loran
But the Loran chalices say
>Loran is a tragic land that was devoured by the sands.
and
>There are trace remains of medical procedures in parts of ailing Loran. Wheather these were attempts to control the scourge of the beast, or the cause of the outbreak, is unknown.
Which imply it's another city state somewhere in the world. It has its own chalice dungeons, which you reach through a chalice ritual, but in the Waking World it's somewhere else.
So my confusion is, if the plague of beasts stems from the Moon Presence, what would Loran have done to annoy him? Can we really say the Moon Presence is the cause of the scourge of beasts? I mean, I like the idea, and it makes sense that the true final boss is the real cause of Yharnam's problems, but what's the evidence for it other than he moves like a werewolf?
>No. they lived inside the Labyrinth which was so big they had to name various segments of it.
I imagine the Pthumerians used to live on the surface aswell but eventually retreated entirely underground. Of course, they could have always lived in the labyrinth and never anywhere else, who knows? Point is though, wherever they lived, I imagine as a whole it was called 'Pthumeru' (because Pthumeru chalice, and Pthumerian is clearly a denonym), and the Ihyll chalice says that Ihyll was the title of both their ruler and the name of their capital (that particular part of the labyrinth).
Also Isz and the Hintertombs probably are part of Yharnam's labyrinth. It's just the Loran ones which are somewhere else.
>>321698735
How far are you into the game?
>Augur of Ebrietas
This is obtained really late into the game. Just explore and you'll come across it.
>The Logarius Wheel
This is found by giving Alfred the 'Unopened Summons', or by killing him.
>Cainhurst Castle
This is found by finding the 'Unopened Summons', which can be found if you explore the Forbidden Woods,and find a route through a cavern back to Central Yharnam. I won't spoil what you find there.
>>321698586
Where do I get the other versions of the sword? I want other imprints to be slotted.
>>321698546
>>321698779
Are you there?
>>321698848
i get hit quite a lot, i just don't mind dying.
having both skill and str at 50 is fine then? like it's not the stupidest thing you've heard?
>>321698145
Thanks anon, guess I'll make a new character for it.
>>321698779
I got there just now.
>>321697580
>>321697653
>spend hours baking her multiple cakes and building her a garden of her favorite plants
>get a 50$ record player
>im the faggot
Fuck off virgins
QUICK
WHAT'S A GOOD SHIRT TO GO WITH MY CAULIFLOWER BUILD?
>>321689414
>split weapons shit for arcane
does this mean arcane builds are shit for the moonlight greatsword? What do you suggest then?
>>321698658
I did the expansion on NG+ and cleared all the chalice dungeons with 10 vit
If I can do it, you should have no problem too
>>321699014It's considered Casual to call them "Vinyls"https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2014/04/17/okay-fine-call-them-vinyls/
>>321699242
Fuck, sorry got surprised from behind.
>>321699054
>Which imply it's another city state somewhere in the world
No. They don't at all. All it implies is that it was a place and it fell to scourge. Isz is considered a "land" too and I can PROMISE you that Pthumerian Elder is a boss you can find there.
>It has its own chalice dungeons
No, it's a part of THE chalice dungeons. The game only ever refers to the Tomb of the Gods or Labyrinth in the singular. There's only one.
>So my confusion is, if the plague of beasts stems from the Moon Presence, what would Loran have done to annoy him?BASTARD OF LORAN. RING OF BETROTHAL. MARRIAGE MATTERS TO GREAT ONES. LORAN DISREGARDED IT.
>It's just the Loran ones which are somewhere else.
You have less than zero evidence for this idea.
>>321699176
It's kinda laggy for me anon, hopefully it doesn't get me killed.
>>321681665
Where the fuck is the door you're supposed to open after beating Amelia? I KNOW I've fucking walked up to it twice before fighting her, now I can't find the shitting thing.
Also, how long can I leave going after the crow gril's target? She want's me to go under some tomb?
>>321699245
>An ungrateful faggot AND pussy whipped
top kek
>>321699014
>Vinyls sound way better as well
Not on a 50$ player
>>321699627
In the grand plaza, from the direction of the cathedral ward towards the grand cathedral, turn left. It's where you see one of those octopus duds.
>>321699571
It felt more like the fps drop than lag for me.
>>321699810
For whatever reason, I invaded some people. Wait a sec.
>>321699684
Do you even realize the contradiction of you're statement? Being grateful would mean I would be more pussy whipped. And being pussy whipped would imply I would be grateful of her.
>>321699180
There's little reason not to if you don't care about your level. Even weapons like the whirligig which are S-scaling in strength and D-scaling in skill, gain more damage from getting to 25 skill than they do when going over 50 strength, and 25->50 skill gives equal damage to post-50 strength levels with the upside of making more weapons viable for you to use.
People caring about their build usually only do so because they want to stay within some range of PVP level. There it's more important to get the most damage you can on the lowest level possible, and they like to run 40 vit minimum to avoid getting potentially blown up by viscerals I think.
>>321699928
Your *
>>321699807
I feel like i'm being retarded. I can find two paths that lead down, one that goes to the lower part of the Ward where you loop around to open the gate, and the other where you go down to the dead end with the chest and the ball and chain guy.I see no Amygwhatevers yet
>Post tfw you beatLudwigfor the first time
Staggering him brutally with his own sword was one of the most gratifying things for me in the whole game.
Is there a way to get a physical version of The Old Hunters in NA?
Does anyone here have it? Super pissed they didn't bring over the ToH version with the sleeve Japan has.
I constantly get lost. I just killed the Witches of Yharnam or whatever they're called and it's like the 40th time I can't figure out where to go. Which feels crazy for me because I'm an avid Souls fan and I feel like I never really had this problem.
>>321699082
>>321698735
You can get Augur of Ebrietas fairly early actually. After Vicar Amelia head to Forbidden woods. There's a hutt with a light near the window, a guy will give you a Tonsil Eye Stone.
You go round to the right of the Cathedral where you fought Amelia, run past the two hunters and executioner dudes and get scooped up by the giant Spider in the big hall.
He'll teleport you to the Lecture Hall and Augur of Ebrietas will be in a chest in one of the rooms.
how does it feel that 1 out of 3 people don't get past gascoin? Are you one of them anon?
>>321700084
No, IN the grand plaza anon. There are 3 ways to go, take the path to the side, where one of the giants starts in, kneeling.
Started last month, got both endings finally.
Love the setting. Mechanics are about the same as the other souls games and i liked them well enough. Lack of content makes it a lackluster title.
Chalice dungeons suck.
So how does the dimensions and dreams work? Is Yharnam not a real place? Are all the hunters from different dimensions are are normal from their perspective dimensions and not cursed or frenzied?
>>321699440
thanks anon! i will fucking kill them
>>321699908
I'm really, really sorry.
You don't have to bother with me any more. I guess I should level up vit since everything is killing me in one hit.
I have only been leveling up arcane so far.
>>321700096I wanna fuck that girl
Im in the forest and fucking aliens are showing up what the shit
>>321700310
Eh no worries. I'm still there if you feel like it, though I have to go do some shit so I can only stay for about 15 more minutes.
>>321698484
Poe was the first Waifufag
>>321685828
You can buy them you know.
>>321699137
Once you've obtained a DLC weapon, you can buy any form of it you like from bath messengers in chalice dungeons. From the static dungeons, it's basically the very last chalice, Great Pthumeru Ihyll. Dunno if it's possible to get access earlier somehow, like a randomly generated higher depth pthumeru chalice.
>>321699329
Madman's set or Student outfit, anything that either makes you look intelligent or a complete frothing lunatic.
>>321700361
hidden floppy things
>Start playing.
>Blood vial system doesn't make any sense, have to tinker with it to even grasp how it works
>Cool ass van helsing story gets shit on by historian channel tier ancient aliens.
>Weapon upgrading sucks.
>Every NPC just laughs at you, its kinda dumb.
>Covenants dont seem to serve any function
>Still havent found my Shotel.,
>Still havent found any actual armor, just coats.
>Bosses look like they came from a 13 year old kids notebook.
>no background music anywhere.
Meh. It's okay
>Fighting Orphan of Kos
>Low on health
>Press Triangle
>"One of your messages was rated "Fine" appears right before
THIS HAPPENED ABOUT 3 TIMES
just got it actually. played DS and DS2 on the PC beforehand as a lightning spearchucker. what build in BB mimics that type of playstyle? or do i need to go into this with a fresh mindset?
>>321700425
Thanks I'll keep that in mind
>>321700256
Doesn't that just go down to thevery niceWhore and the Old Dudes houses?
>>321692457
After beating Amelia and getting the item on hunters dream you must let the amygdala left of cathedral ward grab you.
I'd love to play it but i need to wait for a long as fuck download
>>321700459
>have to tinker with it to even grasp how it works
tinker with it how? how does one not understand how it works?
>>321700504
Stop writing messages. That never happened to me because I don't help shitters in game.
>helping with ludwig
>had 3 hosts get blown out by the moonlight sword nuke
come on its so easy to dodge
>>321699245
That's what you get for not sticking to 2d. She probably loaned the rest of the money she was going to use on your ps4 to the black man she's fucking on the side.
Okay so what's the deal with Amygdalas?
Are they creatures that have snuck into reality from the nightmare dimension? Have they always been around just watching the shit that goes down in Yharnam?
Which Great One did they originate from?
>>321700459
you're a total idiot
Where the Fuck do I go after I kill the witches of Yharnam or whatever they're called? I keep running into dead ends in this game.
>>321700760
>his hosts live long enough to get to phase 2
you know nothing of hell.
>>321694126
I believe amygala has the highest physical defence of all bosses. Try beating it with blades of mercy, that shit is hard as fuk
>>321700593
That's before the grand plaza.
>>321700798
They're parasites that dont really give a fuck about humans, and everyone went insane and started to worship them. Thats my take on it.
>>321700940
shadows of yarnham?
>>321700940
If Witches of Hemwick then Forbidden Woods
If Shadows of Yharnam then Bygenwreth
>>321700940
Shadows of Yharnam? Go straight through their arena, follow the path and work your way into the college, then jump into the lake.
>>321700265
>both endings
Do you mean you only got two? There's three endings.
>>321700384
Thanks senpai.
One of them stayed alive even after the fight and even summoned the meteors.
>>321699560
>Isz is considered a "land" too
Checked the Isz chalice descriptions and you're right! I guess that means Isz must be somewhere else outside of Yharnam too, eh friend? :^)
No really though, seeing as Isz's chalices say it's both a land and a deeper part of the Labyrinth, I guess that does mean Loran is aswell. It's just that 'land' seems like a weird choice of word to describe something which is just part of a big dungeon.
I was also rolling off the idea that the Nightmare Frontier was Loran sucked into the nightmare, seeing as Loran was 'devoured by the sands' which implies it vanished, and there's Loran silver beasts there.
So if Loran was just a part of the Pthumerian civilisation, what's the deal with it? Why would Pthumerians need to fuck around with blood ministration when they'd already mastered the eldritch truth to the degree where they can use blood magic and shoot fire balls and stuff?
>Bastard of Loran
I actually had no idea this item existed. Thanks for pointing it out.
What's the deal with Mergo, then? If the Great Ones hold marriage so highly that Moon Presence wants Mergo dead because its a bastard, why is Oedeon sticking his omnipresent incorporeal dick in everything without asking first?
>>321701338
Yeah I noticed, I got BTFO by one of his meteors.
If you're going for Maria, I'm not sure I can be summoned in any other place besides the garden.
>>321689302
0 insight
beast runes
beat blood pellet
drop attack him
go to town
>>321701189
Fuck me.
I'll look again tomorrow famicom.
>>321701283
Where are the forbidden woods from there? I only find dead ends everywhere I go
Gridning for buklets and health is kind of fucking annoying.
>>321700940
go back to the guy that wants a password to open the door
>>321701465
Yeah you have to beat the failures for me to be able to summon you for Maria. I can help you if you want.
Feel free to add me on psn.
>>321700798
They just seem to be the weakest form of Great One. I liked the idea they were all aspects of the same Great One, but the way the Amygdalan arm is worded makes it sound like they're more of a species.
I think they might be infantile/adolescent Great Ones which haven't evolved into unique forms yet.
>>321696862
nice man continue to enjoy it. the dlc is fucking insane compared to the main game.
>>321701063
Amygdala is incredibly resistant to damage in its legs/tail, but takes normal damage to its hands/arms, and tons of damage to its head.
I got it a few months ago but kept quitting cause I suck. I quit my first run through cause all my stats are fucked. So I restarted and am doing much better but still suck so I keep quitting.
Just beat Shadows of Yharnam, got Cainhurst summons.
Do I Cainhurst next? Still need to fight witches.
Also where do I get my hands on some of these tasty chunks?
>>321701414
Yharnam probably wanted a child and asked a Great One for it. The Great Ones are sympathetic above all. Oedon stuck his formless dick all up in her because she wanted a baby.
Why do the church people keep becoming beasts
Arent they the ones with eldritch knowledge?
>>321701063
I beat Amygdala after 2 tries. The high physical defense only applies on his limbs but not on his torso or head.
I think this is the tip on how to beat him.
Stay below Amygdala unlocked and dodge if necessary because he will slam the ground using his fists. Once he slammed his fist to the ground he will lower down his head. This is the time you need to use the lock on. Shift the lock to his head and attack for massive damage. Rinse and repeat. For arcane builds this is much easier to achieve since the augur of ebrietas does a massive damage on his head.
You can alternately use wide area weapons like the beast cutter, threaded cane or jump attack and target his torso for decent damage just remember to stay behind him and dodge once he slams his feet behind which is telegraphed.
Don't be afraid to always stay close as the physical attacks are really manageable together with that arcane slam. Distancing amygdala is much more dangerous since the lasers deal a lot of damage.
>>321692937
Go into Yarhagul, there's loads of chunks there, at least one right near the entrance.
To farm them you can either do depth 4/5 Chalice's (WAAAAY harder than Yarhagul) or the Cainhurst Gargoyle bats, but the drop rate is stupidly low.
A +7 weapon in Yarhagul is fine, since all the enemies (at least the top levels) are piss-easyif you can figure out what to do.
What is a good lovecraft book to read?
>>321701732
I think I'm almost there.
>>321681665
it's fun, i miss shields though ;-;
>>321702006
Do you have the DLC? Chunks are everywhere, you won't even need to fight a boss. And you should get the witches out of the way. They're very easy and unlock runes customization.
>>321701414
I guess because Odeon really wants children.
But why was Mensis trying to beckon the moon when they already have Mergo? Were they gonna use him as a bargaining chip for MP?
What does the MP actually want?
The more I try to answer this shit the more confused I get
>>321702045
cause they're idiots who drink old blood
>>321690740
>I don't know what ADHD is please kill me
>>321694126
bosses, especially large bosses, will often have different defense modifiers on different parts of their bodies.
Amygdala, for example, has higher def on the arms and legs, but little on the head, or torso, and very low defense against thrusting attacks, the head in particular for Amygdala and Ebby is very weak to Blood type damage.
>>321701063
>tfw jumping electric rune ludwig blade to the face + viscerals when possible
2ez
except for that jump it does that that reks you if it connects
>>321686183
that's considered a light snack where I live.
Just Started game last night. Are you supposed to die a fuckton in the first level? I hope so because I am. I got to the part where there are the two wolves, are there any lanterns besides the one on the top of the lantern? The wolves killed me and would like to know if there's a lantern because it's likely they'll kill me a few more times. Would save me a lot of trouble. This is my first souls experience, enjoying it a lot. Just have to say that dying is very frustrating
>>321701971
i was having trouble too anon
then i hit a boss where i realized "i gotta fuckin upgrade my weapon" and that helped out a lot
>>321702006
Where the witches are is an easy area, and beating them is how you get to slot runes.
Cainhurst is useful to do before Bergenwerth, because you can find enough chunks there to get to +8 or maybe +9. Run past the bloodlickers outside, they're way harder than anything in the castle.
>>321702202
Don't have the DLC, still feeling out the game and waiting till I have appropriate funds. I've got a +6 Rifle Spear right now and it's made most of the game ezmode. Is it worth even upgrading further?
>>321702169
You want me to help you beat them?
I have a bowblade build that probably gonna make the fight very easy.
>>321700096
w8 how u get ludwig moon sword while u fighting him? or u mean reagular ludwig. maybe u mean the reg
>>321701751
I'm wondering if they're Scholars of Byrgenwerth just like Rom. Most of the Scholars asked for eyes from the Great Ones and that's what Rom got.
>>321700163
That place is super easy to get lost in, you're not alone. I only learned the mapping of the forest+the place after, after my 5th playthrough
>>321702164
All Lovecraft wrote were short stories, any book you find of lovecraft is going to be a collection of those stories. That said, At the Mountains of Madness is great.
>>321702428
Oh sure, if you're up for it. I'm on NG+. Same password I guess.
>>321702164
Lovecraft was more into short stories, the only 'books' are the various collections of his stuff.
If you're looking into his longer works, I'd highly recommend At the Mountains of Madness. There's also The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath, but that's considerably harder to get into because of how esoteric it is and all the bizarre terms he puts out.
I'd suggest warming up with a few of his stories first. Call of Cthulhu, Shadow over Innsmouth, Dunwich Horror, and Dreams at the Witch House are good starting points, and then work your way up to Mountains of Madness. Pretty much all of this shit is available online, so it shouldn't be too hard to just google them.
>>321686412
>4th boss
Holy shit. I think I killed her 3rd. I remember the Cleric Beast, Father Gasgoine, Amelia. Oh wait I killed that beast in the church
>>321702215
https://youtu.be/cL8IBnDyu7I
The Church in a nutshell
>>321702359
Yea, you die a lot. BB was my first souls game I got into. I didn't even bother with those wolves my first time through. Especially as a pair. But if you can get behind one of them and R2, that's a non-cheese way to kill them.
Bought it in April, but haven't played in a few months and started up a new playthrough for the DLC. The DLC is free right? Just need to get to NG+?
>>321702359
The first area throws a ton of enemies at you and it's easy to get overwhelmed. Since it's your first Souls game too, it'll be rough. Just remember that the blood echoes you're losing now are a drop in the bucket compared to what you can earn later. Just past the wolves and to the left off that bridge is a shortcut that leads back to that original lantern.
>>321702164
http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/
pick one
>>321702374
Yea. Stats, upgrades, gems, etc. Didn't know shit about all that my first run through a few months ago.
>>321702359
Dying is fine, and running past enemies to see what's ahead is as well. I'd say quite a few people's first victory over the werewolves was running in a nearby building to discover they can't fit through the door. There's no shame in that. As you play, you'll learn enemies better and improve.
I just ordered it.
>>321702561
Ok, hold on.Are you who I think you are?
>>321702253
Is Bloodborne the only lovecraftian story where humans can take on and kill the creatures from the cosmos/sea?
>>321702359
The first area of the game is kinda hard in comparison to the rest, not sure why. Then the DLC fucks you up again.
>>321702909
Yeah I helped you with Ludwig.
>>321702692
It's not free
>>321702359
So you're stuck at central yarnham lantern?
Run past those 2 wolves and all the dudes and break boxes until you can jump off a ledge. You should see a bunch of dogs in cages. Or go through the house, first level.
Past the dogs in cages area you'll see wolves with spears and rats. keep going.
>>321681665
>TFW OoK reaches phase 2
>>321702698
What's the point of going back to the original lantern? I did it one, went to the dream and bought some potions, and all the enemies had respawned. >>321702675
Isn't the cleric beast by the wolves?
>>321681665
>wreck everything with extendo axe
>fight blood starved beast
>get it down to 50%
>goes to grab me
>dodge out of the way
>lol no
>grabs anyway
>get reduced from 100% to 5%
>slow poison kills me before i get back up
It's pretty fun senpai.
Is waste of skin the best endgame origin like in the souls game with starting off naked?
NG+ makes everything harder, right? So I should beat ebriatas and get as far as I can in the dungeons first?
>>321702984
Ah, the Main character is the only one who can take on Lovecraftian Beingsand eventually become one themself
>>321703139
He mean's there is a shortcut from the lantern that will allow you to bypass all of those other enemies you're having trouble with, including the werewolves. You'll be able to go from the first lamp to a place beyond the werewolves, without having to go through them.
>>321703159
serves you right for cheesing with the ax
cane is love, cane is life
as you flay the beast outside, you purge the beast within
>>321703090
>Yeah I helped you with Ludwig.
No I someone called ruggrell has just sent me a friend request and I thought it was you.
Anyway I'll ring my bell at the start of the level since I haven't done it yet with this build.
>>321703201
nop
>>321703323
not technically true, you're just the only one doing it now.
>>321702984
any Dream Hunter can take on the Great Ones, with enough time. it's just that the PC just happens to be more anemic than the other Dream Hunters
>>321702692
The DLC costs money, it isn't free.
>>321703323
>Rom
>>321703201
From what I've heard, Military Veteran is best for STR/SKL/quality builds, Noble Scion is best for bloodtinge/SKL builds, and Cruel Fate is best for arcane. Waste of Skin is too evenly distributed when you won't be getting anything out of some stats.
>>321703290
Chalice dungeons don't scale with NG+, so your progress and their difficulty will remain unchanged. Everything else gets harder.
>>321702030
What about Arianna though? The Great Ones crave surrogates (either surrogate children or surrogate mothers) and don't seem very concerned about asking first, so why would Moon Presence be so pissy about Mergo?
>>321702206
>But why was Mensis trying to beckon the moon when they already have Mergo?
Were they trying to beckon the moon, though? It was Laurence and Gherman who beckoned the Moon Presence in the past. The note that says 'madmen try to beckon the moon' is found in Yahar'gul, so it could be a Mensis scholar writing about other members of the Healing Church, rather than a note about Mensis.
Also, I don't think the School of Mensis ever had Mergo. They succeeded in contacting Mergo but it immediately turned them all brain dead. Most of their consciences became the Brain of Mensis, while Micolash survived (or, his conscience did in the Nightmare) and seemed to learn the eldritch truth.
Though then that would seem to be the Mensis Ritual, but a note in Yahar'gul says the Mensis ritual must be stopped. So was whoever wrote that note wrong, because the Mensis ritual already happened and it wasn't really so bad for anyone not involved, or is there still another Mensis ritual which is sort of going on posthumously?
>>321702539
Rom turned into a baby caterpillar chilling in a little subdimension though. I don't see why she'd be a fat slug while everyone else managed to turn into big spider guys. I think Rom would have eventually turned into something like an Amygdala, though.
I also think Rom was ascended using the Orphan's umbilical chord taken from Kos. Kos was dead by the time Rom evolved, so I think Micolash's claim that Kos gave her eyes really means "it was the knowledge and materials gained from inspecting Kos' corpse" which gave Rom eyes.
>>321703360
Oh shit that's right. Thanks man. I'll try it out
>>321703548
I don't think Rom ever killed a Great One
>>321700096
Ludwig was a freakin roadblock when I entered the DLC for the first time on my higher NG+s
The bosses after him were cake compared to himand then you reach Laurence and Orphan of Kos...
>>321703090
sorry, got hit by the magic attack from behind, but holy shit I was dealing +400 per arrow and could even interrupt their magic attacks.
I didn't even kill the Cleric Beast first. I ran into the Axe guy. After getting my ass creamed by him, then I discovered the Cleric Beast. I forget which I killed first, but I remember saying NOPE when I first came across CB and did something else.
>>321703394
Should i really move to the cane? The hunter axe's full heavy attack is godly.
>>321702539
Amygdala isn't classified as Kin like Rom and the ayylmaos. It's also not weak to bolt/thrust. In terms of weaknesses, it's exactly like Moon Presence or Wet Nurse. Neutral to basically everything, very slightly resistant to blood. Also bleeds red, not white like Kin.
There's nothing really in the game to suggest it isn't just another type of true great one, although "great one" itself is a really empty definition considering everything in the game above humans and obviously not a beast is considered that because people in-game have no idea what the fuck they're talking about either. It's even got in-game statues showing worship of it despite the fact there's almost no lore notes about it.
>>321703871
No prob, just got them. I'll restock and ring the bell for Maria to help your other character.
>>321681665
Im currently trying to get to a guy who shooting like a machine gun from some tower.
>>321701628
The entrance to forbidden woods is separate. Go back to Grand Cathedral then head down the steps until you fint the circular cemetery, then behind the go through the church giant and turn left.
>>321704060
Ok thanks.
when should i buy the expansion? still not done with my first play
>>321703916
you're speced into strength and wont get the strength version of the cane until you get the DLC, so stick with your filthy uncouth axe
It's kind of annoying that if I'm having problems with a boss I have to farm those potions and bullets. I suppose the solution is to git gud, but it's an annoyance while I am gitting gud.
>>321704262
Uh I can't ring the bell, do I need to activate her or something?
>>321704283
You can start the expansion after Byrgenwerth.
>>321703679
Well the note about Madmen beckoning the Moon was located in the prison withinh Yahar'gul. Looks like it could have been wrote by one of the Mensis prisoners.
Also where'd you get that info about the Brain of Mensis?
All I know is that it's eyes were of an evil sort and that it's brain was rotten
>>321699423
I dunno how the moonlight greatsword works but I think it has special arcane scaling in trick mode or something, regular mode it's just a sword though
>>321704283
Personally, I'd say play through the game at least once on vanilla.
Play through it blind, pick up shit you might have missed, then make a fresh save for the DLC.
>>321704076
you have to keep moving forward while taking cover. You can then either avoid him entirely or go up to kill him. Keep in mind he is a tough fight and there is a way to befriend him later on.
>>321704307
Buy them with your leftover blood echoes after leveling. You'll still encounter some roadblocks, but for the most part you'll have a decent surplus.
Is the wooden shield any good?
>>321699423
until endgame I'd suggest using something like the saw spear / cleaver
>If you just started playing this game, reveal yourself.
>What are your thoughts? Have any questions? They will be answered.
Oh wow because your video game is just this unparalleled work of mystique and art, isn't it?
Fuck off.
>>321704447
and the random hunter? I need to kill him right?
>>321703679
>Most of their consciences became the Brain of Mensis,
No, Mensis found the brain in the nightmare. It is a Great One.
>>321703985
Yeah a lot of people seem to worship these shitty Amygdalas, what with the statues laying around everything, even in the Healing Church Cathedral. It just seems like there's a fucking lot of them laying around.
At least two in Central Yharnam and Cathedral Ward. One next to the Cathedral. Three in Yara'ghul. I hate them fucking guys.
>>321704591
You don't need to kill anything that isn't a boss, but you probably should kill him.
>>321704696
They're great ones, and probably the only ones that most people will ever "see"
>>321704591
he won't chase you very far, just run past him if you don't want to fight.
is bloodborne the best game to come out since dark souls? I think it might be
based fromsoft
>just got enough arcane for A Call Beyond >upgraded to a +10 Ludwig's Holy Blade.
>start the DLC
I fucked up, didn't I?
>>321704581
>going into a thread with this many replies just to shitpost about people having questions to ask
>>321704963
Nah, just get some Arcane Gems for your Ludwig sword.
Beef up your arcane to 50 if you want Call Beyond to actually to some good damage.
>>321704368
>>321704620
You know, I thought there was an item description which explicitly said contacting Mergo caused the Mensis scholars' brains to be still born, becoming a Great One albeit a very shitty one. However, I think I'm just misremembering stuff from the Paleblood Hunt (which is impressive but does come to some iffy conclusions), as I can't find anything saying that again. Plus, I just remembered you find the bowl cut spiders in Mergo's Loft, who are probably the Mensis Scholars, and someone must have chained up the Brain of Mensis so it was probably them
Question still remains as to what the fuck the Mensis Ritual is then. If they're all spiders plus Micolash chilling with Mergo and the Wet Nurse in the nightmare, what could they be doing which would still threaten the waking world?
>>321704318
Yes.
>>321705248
I'm there and already rang the bell.
>>321705348
Me too.
>>321701414
>I was also rolling off the idea that the Nightmare Frontier was Loran sucked into the nightmare
I can dig this though. Ever notice how the Frontier is the only place other than Chalices with tiny little messengers holding and lighting small lanterns? It certainly feels like it's based on Loran at the very least. Maybe sort of like how the Hunter's Nightmare worked
>Why would Pthumerians need to fuck around with blood ministration
I think they didn't. It seems more likely that they were generally cursed at large. Much like how any Yharnamite can go Blood Drunk, any Pthumerian could become a beast.
>It's just that 'land' seems like a weird choice of word to describe something which is just part of a big dungeon.
I agree, but it's not like this is the first questionable word choice on the part of translators for a Fromsoft game.
>If the Great Ones hold marriage so highly that Moon Presence wants Mergo dead because its a bastard
It's not a bastard. Queen Yharnam is wearing a Wedding Ring. She's married. I think MP wants to get rid of Mergo because Mensis is using it to try to lure him in or trigger a Blood Moon state without MP's go-ahead. It's worth considering the possibility that it feels no ill-will towards Yharnam and created the Hunter's Dream as a means by which Yharnamites could counter a curse that wasn't intended for them. I'm a firm believer in the idea that Vermin are what causes Beasthood and that Yharnam has beasts because vermin were in the Old Blood that Laurence and the Church dispensed to the city.
>why is Oedeon sticking his omnipresent incorporeal dick in everything without asking first?
He wants children? It's established that a desire for procreation is pretty much standard in Great Ones. What I wonder is why he seems to care about what MP does or thinks before acting. "When the red moon hangs low, the line between man and beast is blurred. And when the Great Ones descend, a womb will be blessed with child." - Lore from Byrgenwerth
>>321704919
It's pretty good. I like how a lot of the mechanics are a blend of Demon's Souls and Dark Souls. I just started out, though
>tfw I beat Blood Starved Beast 1st try since I happened to have a flamesprayer and 10 molotovs on hand
>>321705156
>what could they be doing which would still threaten the waking world?
They're summoning Paleblood, the Moon Presence, and causing the bloodmoon, which is greatly accelerating the Beast Plague in the peoples of Yharnam, or so it seems. They want knowledge of the Great Ones, it's not exactly what they're trying to get that is dangerous, but what they're doing to get it.
>>321705156
the mensis ritual was simply to beckon the moon afaik
and the item description you're looking for is from the cord you get by killing the wet nurse
I want to get into this shit. My brother owns BB + the Souls games and I'm daunted.
Where do I start, /v/?
>>321704370
Moonlight just gets a small flat arcane boost in its trick form. Similar to what you'd get from using the phantasm shell. It doesn't get special scaling effects like the Tonitrus or the Wheel.
As mentioned earlier, it can be used very effectively with a heavy arcane build with the right gems, but other than the projectiles it's not really getting the bulk of its damage from arcane scaling. How you build and gem also determine which functions of it hit harder or weaker, so you have to adjust your playstyle to match your build.
tl;dr - it's a weapon that can be used by arcane playstyles, but is also a flexible quality weapon that has a lot of viable options
>>321705648
demon's souls > bloodborne > dark souls > eat a bowl of shit > batman arkham knight > dark souls 2
I've been banging my head against the wall for 6 hours. This fucking faggot, holly shit how do i kill him!?
It's definitely a fantastic game.
> tfw you killed ludwig in 3 tries by staggering his faggot ass with his own sword.
>>321705648
If you have a PS3, play Demon's Souls first. If not, play Dark Souls first. Skip Dark Souls 2 for now and then play Bloodborne.
>decking out boom hammer
>staggering ludwig in one hit
feels good man
>>321705648
You've played none? Just take it on release order.
Demon's first, then Dark Souls. Dark Souls 2 is... well it's ok but it may be better for you to jump from DaS into BB, and consider DaS2 after you finish them all.
>>321705831
get backstabs and dodge behind him lots
>>321705831
Fight on the beach in his second form so the lightning doesn't destroy you.
>>321705873
Boom Hammer is loadsafun.
Why is the moonlight greatsword garbage?
>>321681665
GOTY
>>321705831
Backstabs and parrying (if you are good enough at timing your gun.)
>>321706021
>I didn't build my character correctly, so it's garbage
Pls, my negro.
>>321706002
i really need to activate my psplus trial
this looks fun jumping around with other hunters
>>321705831
Dodge and visceral in the first half, pray to kosm in the second. Stay in the water to avoid getting stuck on scenery and have enough time to dodge the lightning.
If you really want to cheese it,runes that give health back after visceral are glitched and give far more than they should from him, meaning you shouldn't need blood vials for the first phase.
>>321705156
>What the fuck the Mensis Ritual is then
Cosmic booty call. They want Oedon to get Queen Yarnham preggers.
>>321705431
Fucked that one up. You got her?
>>321706187
I really wish Sony didn't force PS Plus so I can enjoy half my damn game.
>>321706276
>They want Oedon to get Queen Yarnham preggers.
that already happened long ago, anon.
>>321681665
I started the game a couple hours ago, its getting really fucking hard now, I'm in this place with a bunch of guys with a staff and a lamp, and giants with axes, and its getting really difficult I still haven't found any weapons. Like I wast trying my best not to die because I wanted to brag about not dying but I don't know how much longer I can last, it takes literaly hundreds of hits to take down these guys. even those crow things which seem to be the weakest thing in the level need like 20+ punches.
>>321705456
>vermin are the cause of beasts
I really like this idea
>Vermin are the root of impurity
>Fire is used to purify beasts according to lore
>Beasts are weak to fire
>Loran Silverbeasts and Bloodletting Beasts have large parasitic centipedes living inside them
>If you use fire for the killing blow on a Silverbeast, it's death won't result in centipedes jumping from it's body
>Right after your first blood injection, a beast comes out of the blood pool and tries to attack you before messengers stop it with fire
>>321706460
even though I know you're shitposting, at this point, even if you hadn't died once, you'd still have been able to find a Saw Spear.
>>321706309
Sorry, last try and then I have to go.
I fucking hate her combo.
>>321705562
took me two, using fire paper made it pretty easy actually
Is it worth it to buy a couple months of PS+ for online with this game? I don't play shooters or anything else that has an online component.
Also, just picked up the game yesterday and I'm loving it so far. Took me about an hour or so to git gud but I'm chugging along exploring Yarnham for now. Beat Cleric Beast on my second try, first time I was caught off guard. I think I'm getting close to Gascoigne, getting excited
>>321706592
Even if he wasn't shitposting, how would he find it? its hanging off a corpse on a hidden path, which I'm pretty sure you don't have the range to make drop with only melee hits.
>>321685521
rom took me 2 tries and gascoinge took me 20
>arrived in another players world
>then quickly sent away
>>321706801
>Is it worth it to buy a couple months of PS+ for online with this game?
Absolutely. The online features bleed into every corner of the game. Playing it offline is legimately inferior, even if you don't engage in multiplayer that often. You'll especially appreciate having PS+ if you find yourself wanting to try deep chalice dungeons and farming for top tier blood gems for pvp and NG+ etc.
>>321706801
if you dont think you're going to co-op then you're not missing much, besides the notes/specters in every souls game.
>>321706736
Oh well. Gotta go too, anon.
Tips for Rom? Have to do it solo since everyone is summoning and not being summoned
>>321706996
I'm pretty sure you get to see those just by being online, even if you're not on PS+
>>321690201
rakuyo spin is literally the deadliest shit in pvp
>>321707098
Sorry for wasting your time anon.
>>321706818
You can buy a Saw Spear after the first boss. or after getting the Saw Hunter badge near the first pig.
>>321681665
Pretty cool, my first Souls game
Tips on the Blood Thirst Monster, it gets me in a lock that rapes my asshole
>>321706801
No. Paying for P2P online is, and will always be retarded. The game is perfectly fine offline.
I wish they had included an item to reset points. I don't want to have to keep remaking characters just to try out new weapons. If chalice dungeons weren't such a pain in the dick it might be different.
>>321707141
Kill the spiders one at a time, when Rom rears up for the meteor storm, unlock and run diagonally to your left towards her, you should miss the meteors 95% of the time
>>321706801
As someone who played BB without PS+ for months, it's pretty great alone. I'd say it's even better alone. Co-op kind of makes it less terrifying. But the co-op is fun and so is the PVP. Of course, you can play offline if you have PS+.
>>321705456
>I think they didn't. It seems more likely that they were generally cursed at large. Much like how any Yharnamite can go Blood Drunk, any Pthumerian could become a beast.
But the Lower Loran chalice explicitly say that signs of medical procedures have been found in Loran, and the most obvious medical procedure in Bloodborne is blood ministration.
>I think MP wants to get rid of Mergo because Mensis is using it to try to lure him in or trigger a Blood Moon state without MP's go-ahead
This just circles around to the question of 'what the fuck was Mensis trying to do.' Like really, what the fuck?
>It's worth considering the possibility that it feels no ill-will towards Yharnam
Yeah, I honestly don't get the impression that the Moon Presence is actually hostile. It seems fucking dreadful but I think it really just wants a surrogate child. It tries to replace Gerhman with you, then gets angry when you have the insight to resist it.
>I'm a firm believer in the idea that Vermin are what causes Beasthood and that Yharnam has beasts because vermin were in the Old Blood that Laurence and the Church dispensed to the city.
I'm still divided as to whether vermin are actually linked to beasthood or if they're just hallucinations league members have, though them being the cause of beasthood does make sense and I don't really have any arguments against it.
>He wants children? It's established that a desire for procreation is pretty much standard in Great Ones
But then if marriage is such an important contract to the great ones, important enough to curse Loran, why is Oedeon willing to pop a babby in Arianna without ceremony?
>>321705614
>>321705617
But how are they beckoning fuck all when they're long since dead in the Waking World and currently in Mergo's Loft? And how does it all tie to Rom's death?
>and the item description you're looking for is from the cord you get by killing the wet nurse
So it is, cheers.
>>321707280
>You can buy
Your comprehension is really low, isn't it? If he went to the dream he'd get a fucking weapon, retard.
>>321707164
nope without plus you cant even go into online mode
>>321704530
its there to tell players that relied on shields that they're pussies
>>321694360
>but killing every enemy makes you overleveled.
Only if you're a dingus and use all your souls for leveling instead of buying vials or paper
>>321707301
The stinky blood cocktail distracts it for a few seconds. Also, use firepaper.
>>321707141
Take it very slowly. In the first phase, kill all the spiders before doing any damage to Rom. Use the hunter tool to enchant your weapon with arcane if you can, and wear armor full of arcane resist. In the second and third phases, keep your eye always on Rom while eliminating the spiders. Try to stay close enough so she does the move where she flips on her back and arcane missles shoot up from underneath. You can be just out of range and easily take no damage.
>>321707141
He's weak to bolt, and you can continue hitting him while he disappears to get free damage. It's faster to just run in and start wailing on him, but obviously riskier because spiders might randomly decide to jump at you. Since he barely moves and you just need to burn him down to teleporting, faster 1H forms are better than slow hits.
If you want to make it really easy, go do Cainhurst first (at least the area, not necessarily the boss), as it will drop materials to get your weapon upgraded past what would normally be available prior to Rom.
>>321707530
I'm sorry
Can' get past bridge wolves. I think anyone who says they've beat the game is probabky lying or autistic. Game is toooo hard.
>>321697647
Gehrman actually was never involved in the healing church. Hence why Ludwig was the first healing church hunter. I think Gehrman was swept away to the dream right before Laurence formed the church.
>>321707301
Bloodstarved is extremely susceptible to counter strikes, almost all of it's attacks can put her in a riposte state if she's shot
>>321707301
just strafe/circle left and 90% of its attacks can't hit you. Stay close.
>>321707301
Dodge left.
>>321707524
I was looking at the second ending the other day. The one where your character replaces Gehrmen. It almost looks like MP is giving you a hug and kiss, like you've become its child. I am not so sure it's truly evil.
>>321692937
Throw on Eye runes and farm the blue eyed warewolves in Upper Catherdral.
I really want to keep using the Kirkhammer but this sweet spot shit is seriously pissing me off. Shit's too inconsistent.
>>321707875
I don't think the hunter really replaces gerhman.
>>321707524
>if they're just hallucinations league members have
Consider the following. The three red-eyed hunters in the Hunter's Nightmare drop vermin upon death with or without a rune. Not only that, but they're significantly tougher than normal. So.... yeah.... Vermin existing without a rune and with tangible impact on reality.
>>321694101
Can buy rocks with 60 insight now so you can just farm insight. Might be faster just to progress a NG though.
>>321707524
>But how are they beckoning fuck all when they're long since dead in the Waking World and currently in Mergo's Loft? And how does it all tie to Rom's death?
I think the idea is they already beckoned the moon awhile ago but rom was keeping the nightmare and waking world separate, when you kill rom the blood moon is finally able to descend and things get unpleasant
>>321707524
>Why is Oedeon willing to pop a babby in Arianna without ceremony?
Maybe he doesn't give a fuck? Remember, he was enticed to Arianna by corruption of the blood. Seems like he's the opposite of MP in that sense and gives no fucks or even embraces impurity.
>>321708137
Go on...
Gehrman is killed in that ending though, right? What's with the doll pushing you in the wheelchair then?
>>321708137
I'm curious why you think that.
Go on.
>>321708179
This is the best news I've had all day. Was it a recent patch? Farming insight can be slow, depends on how good you are at killing bosses/players.
Why did they have to make him so fucking far away from the lamp? A hard fight I can stand but the schlep.
>>321707707
laurence beckoned the moon presence with some unnamed 'associates' (very possibly gehrman and even provost) so it's likely that he already founded the church
>>321707707
Fair enough, actually. Now that I think about it there's not really anything which points to Gehrman being involved with the Healing Church, just Laurence at some point.
>>321707875
Exactly. That's why I don't think it's evil. It wants a surrogate child. For the longest time that was Gehrman and he fucking hated it, but I don't think the MP was actually being (purposefully) malicious by keeping him there. It does get upset when you kill it's child and then refuse to become a replacement, though.
>>321708147
The fact those guys drop vermin is weird. Like, vermin explicitly say only league hunters can see them, yet the player still can. I'm tempted to say 'it's just gameplay' and a clue to finding the league, but I don't want to just wave that around as an excuse for things which don't fit in with my view of the lore.
>>321708207
Makes sense.
>>321708289
Yeah, could be Oedeon is just sort of overcome with lust when he catches a whiff of Yharnam's blood coming from a healthy woman.
>>321708116
The hammer's a pretty big letdown. There's a reason people use Ludwig's. It's just better.
Hell, if you want a pure strength weapon, Whirligig is better and it's available in the DLC without killing a boss.
>>321708532
protip: you can destroy his sword when he smashes it into the ground and it makes the fight 10x easier
>>321708513
1.09 you can buy blood rocks and the price of chunks was lowered to 20. Combined with the Rock you can find in the DLC, hardly a problem anymore upgrading stuff.
>>321708454
>>321708341
nah you two are right, i was thinking about a different ending
anyone else actually starting to like chalice dungeons? I know they're terrible but they're kinda comfy
>>321708673
Even better, you can destroy it with your sidearm. I had like 8 BLT and with one shot of the Hunter's Gun the sword disappears.
>>321708741
> chunks lowered to 20
>>321708846
Nope, they're shit. Killed the queen, and never again. I don't even care about them to farm gems, I'll make do with what I find in the game. Fuck the chalice dungeons.
>>321708556
Gehrman was involved, but I don't think the healing church was formed mostly due to Gehrman being involved. It would make sense that once the best hunter dissapeared that there would be a vacuum, hence Ludwig.
>>321707875
The "great ones" are actually just various space parasites. MP creates the dream so hunters have a better chance at ending the bullshit. why, nobody knows. probably just to take attention away from itself. Or maybe its opposed to the amygdala types which are assholes.
>>321708846
I always loved them. Root Dungeons are a pleasure every time and I've gotten the Story Dungeons memorized by now.I've earned the Yharnam Stone 8 times.
