Is that piece of shit worth my time?
Friend keeps begging me to buy it, so I can play with him.
I'm tired of cheap shooters and ubisoft crap in general but I have to admit it looks interesting.
Anyone played it?
>>321672538
>Is that piece of shit worth my time?
>that piece of shit
Wow, you are retarded
it is very good
>>321672538
I tried it on a free weekend and really enjoyed playing it with 2 friends, even as someone who's not great at FPS games. I think they found a good balance of realism and gamey-ness with the gameplay, and it looks pretty nice. I think it's at the very least worth picking up on sale.
Just got out of a match.
If you're into OPERATORS OPERATING OPERATIONS the game is good.
It's fast paced enough on match points to keep it interesting. Teamwork is super fucking crucial and communication, but it's all good. The only Ubishit game that i've ever bought because i'm actually enjoying it.
>>321672981
Actually looking at your post and the point you're trying to make to him, I'm going to say that you're the retarded one.
Colloquial phrase.
>>321672538
>no campaign
>6 clusterfuck maps
>2 game modes
>$60
>guaranteed to be on life support in 6 months
yeah nah
I bought it and played it a bit but have had some other things to do. It was a very tacticool 3 hours of play though.
>>321672538
its worth it if you pay 40$ on a keysite like i did.
already put in probably 30 hours so far
Since it's a slow take on shooters it's a nice change, but it's not slow to a snail pace, it's more like "think your approach know your teammates and enviroment" kind of thing.
When all goes good:
>Find the enemy team on a sealed room
>Rappel into the nearest window
>Team understands shit's going down
>Tactical insertion of cluster grenades through enemy anus
>Tactical kick to the window frame
>Tactical entry into swift submission
>All good
When it all goes wrong
>One teammate goes by himself to the wrong floor
>One Fuze deploys grenades into the hostage's room
>Enemy tryhard know-all-the-corners camper kills you with Glaz sniper
The last two lemmings run into a floor boobytrap dropping into the basement and die
It's better with friends.
>>321673596
>>no campaign
who cares
>>6 clusterfuck maps
there's 10 and the map design is really good
>>2 game modes
enough variety in it to keep it fresh
>>guaranteed to be on life support in 6 months
10k new players from the sales and that's just on Steam, not counting all the Uplay sales from keysites
I WANT RAINBOW SIX VEGAS 3
>>321673427
You should probably look up what colloquial phrase actually means.
Gonna recommend against. Good idea, bad execution. Movement, guns and damage are too much like CoD. Siege and breaching mechanics don't actually allow for much creativity or adaptability. Placing deployable equipment is shitty because the game WON'T let you place anything within 6 feet of any geometry. But sometimes it will, idk. Oh is consistency in what's supposed to be a competitive ranked game important?
Operators don't have very good chemistry with each other, just pick ones with the good abilities and go. Some are useless or redundant. Why pick IQ to scan for traps when you could use Thatcher and EMP them all at once?
>>321672538
If you can get over the price and ubishit it's fun as fuck.
>>321672538
I actually have to friends to play with but it was fun
Did try to get on /vg/'s teamspeak but there are always faggot in them spouting memes
Still at the moment it is fun enough going pug
Its kinda funny sometime when two teams have absolute no communication what soever just because they are too lazy to.
>Airplan map
>defend team use Castle to block off entry
>Mute going around placing jammer
>None of the Attacker bought Beach and no Thatcher
>They cant get in.
>They just standing outside the barricade until timeout
>>321674042
>>321674353
This, if the game has decent servers and good support from any other company, it'd be amazing.
>>321672538
Fuck you Sam
I enjoyed every bit of the 1 hour I played it.
However I kept disconnecting from servers when I really just wanted to play the game but it's pretty fucking good when it works.
>>321674750
You can melee the castle barricade.
>>321674750
for fucks sake sledge can smash that barricade fucking nub
$45 seems pretty steep.
Is this game even half as tactical as advertised? I'm not huge on aracadey FPS games.
The last patch made immensely beneficial changes to the netcode so I've got high hopes for future supports.
>>321675778
It's not really arcadey. Even at lower levels the play is tactical.
>>321674750
No surprise there, gamers are as dumb as a box of hammers.
>>321672538
> friend uses you to rationalize his purchase
> still ends up dropping it
why cant he just be real with himself?
Don't care if its costly and only has a dedicated small playerbase. They are keeping all future DLC free for everyone. I thank them for that. Game is fun as hell when you don't have retards pick fuze during hostage.
>>321674154
There is plenty of different ways to breach and defend I feel. More so than any game which you can compare it to.
Half the fun is deconstructing the enemies defense like a puzzle.
The rest is pretty much true if a bit exaggerated.
IQ is the only weak link in the operators and They've made one fixed to the gun turret placement.
>>321676178
Do you not have any connection issues?
I bought it yesterday but I couldn't fucking stop DC'ing from games.
I thought it was fun.
>>321675778
Well, the abilities that every operator have are pretty ridiculous and most of it is built around game balance rather than realism, and you have stupid shit like one-hit melee kills, and the ability to punch through drywall but I have to say that as far as movement and gun shooting goes, it's pretty fucking close to Rainbow Six 3. Not 100%, more like 75%, but you have lean buttons, no regenerating health, die in 3 shots, full prone and crouch, extensive rappel mechanics, etc.
>>321676406
>IQ is the only weak link in the operators
She will most likely become useful when the DLC comes around. I think the new operators will be gadget heavy.
>>321676178
Got to admit, defense on Terry hunt is a lot more fun than I expected. I've taken to holding onto my reinforced walls till they nuke a hole through a wall so I can effectively patch the new doorway.
>>321676534
I see people leaving all the time but I never DC myself. Happens every time before the round starts. Then again I'm playing on PS4
>>321675778
I'm similar, I don't play arcade FPS at all. The damage is arcadey. High TTK compared to games like Insurgency or Red Orchestra, and there's no much gun recoil. Headshots are always instant kills no matter the gun, so it becomes a game of who can one tap headshot fastest like Counter Strike. I think it's a nice blend between tactical shooters and arcade shooters, but it took me about 20 hours to get used to aiming for the head instead of center of mass.
>>321676534
Xbone player here.
Connection issues occur occasionally. Biggest has been squad members disconnecting when we start selecting characters for a match. Had it happen repeadidly till we switched hosts. DCing happens but with low to medium frequency. Most of the time it's host disconnect cause they didn't want to sit through the rest of the round while dead.
>House is literally the best map
>Never play on it
>>321676692
Well I got like 6 types of DC. First my game got stuck in a loading screen, then several eternal searching for player matches, then just straight up DC'ing mid-match.
It's not like I had firewall or anything up and running either, I turned off Peerblock and everything.I refunded the game, but I already wanna play it again.
>>321676534
>the abilities that every operator have are pretty ridiculous and most of it is built around game balance rather than realism
I find they're grounded in reality desu. People even bitched about the heartbeat sensor in Siege despite it being in the original game. I see retards around here even going so far in calling the gadgets "super powers."
>>321674034
Oh fuck you're a stupid faggot
>>321675778
It's tactical in the sense that GO is tactical.
the gameplay makes it tactical, it throws realism out the window to realise it.
I have a feeling these bomb guys will be a new operator. Unarmed but take lots of damage.
>>321677027
This. What the fuck, you get house maybe 1 out of 20 times
fuck this gay ERF
>>321677547
Maybe if they let you play as Terrorists. The new ops are coming from Canada, USA, Brazil and Japan. In that order.
>>321677568
>>321677027
If you are doing THunt with friends you can just change your map preferences to be House only.
>>321672538
Worth it.
Didn't expect much out of it but my cousin had it and I played it a bit.
Played on PS4 and didn't have the connectivity issues some of these people are having.
>>321677780
>Canada
>Brazil
>Japan
>Spacial forces
>>321677547
>>321677780
>Rainbow Six series
>Ever letting players play as a terrorist
>>321677547
>Ubisoft
>locate in French
I doubt They want to add Terrorist anytime soonWhen there might already be on in their building
>>321677982
Here is Canada. They confirmed it already.
Probably Blackwatch for Canada
SEALS for USA
??? for Brazil
JSDF for Japan
JSDF is basically their military AND special forces since it can't be deployed outside of Japan.
>>321678469
JIDF operator when?
>>321678469
Brazil is probably BOPE
>>321678469
Is that an underbarrel shotgun and another qt?
I really want to know more about them, if there is a shill in here who knows more please tell.
>>321678674
Yeah that is probably right. Brazil will probably bring FALs and other shit into the game, SEALs bring M4, M14, M16.
Not sure what Canada or Japan will add. I think it was a massive fucking fuckup that the absolute first operators weren't from Israel to bring in the TAR-21 and other bullpup weapons.
>>321678269
But Siege already lets you do that
>>321678885
Japan will bring Katanas.
>>321679110
No they will bring the Kamakazi
>>321677547
>tfw you find out Thatchers EMP granades short out their bomb vests
>>321678809
They showed a teaser of the new American operator in one video. He has a ballistic shield on his gun.
>>321678885
>>321679110
japan will bring mechs
>>321678885
And hopefully this
>>321679269
So does Twitch's drone. Very easy to drive around fucking these guys over.
>>321679324
For what purpose?
>>321679324
>mustache doesn't connect to his beard
>>321679324
>operator with beard and sunglasses
How original
It's great at best but god damn awful at worst since your experience will completely rely on how's your team like, which usually is filled with retards.
>>321678269
>Ever letting players play as a terrorist
somebody never played lockdown MP
>>321678885
Does BR have any real operators?
I thought they were all meant to be corrupt as fuck and really shit at anything tactical.
>Hostage mode
>Somebody picks Fuze
>>321673596
You could at least try to research a bit before shitposting
>>321677425
I'm not worried about realism, that often has to get thrown up for the sake of balance.
I'm just tired of sprint around, run and gun games where everyone's just throwing random bullshit around the map
>>321673596
>6 months
Try weeks.
>>321679694
I play as IQ no matter what. The 552 with a holo has like no recoil and I like being quick as fuck. I would probably play Thermite more if he could get flashbangs instead.
>>321679691
Brazil has the special 7-1 Unit
>>321677357
Please refute his points instead of making yourself sound like an underage faggot who obviously hasn't played the game
>>321679694
To all the faggots on my team who votes gar(b)age on house map: fuck you.
Games fun with friends. Don't bother playing it alone. Random people are stupid. I swear people play the game with no sound. It's so obvious where people are when you hear their foot steps.
Also, wish the game had a cover system like Vegas and more customization options. Kind of sucks that each class only has like 2 main weapon choices.
>>321680074
xDD so epic
>>321680157
>wish the game had a cover system
Why? You can lean and that's enough
>>321679526
as opposed to what? Someone without a beard? I don't think we have 10 of those already.
>>321679526
What's wrong with sunglasses? Do you not want to conceal your identity or look good?
>>321680269
what is the problem?
>>321672538
Nope.
Horrible Ubisoft garbage as usual.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJV8RcyKqbQ
Xbone or ps4? I feel like ps4 will have more people, but I do like xbone's controller and I'd get Vegas 1 and 2 with it.
>>321680526
>Published on Apr 9, 2015
>>321680530
Go with the console you have more friends on.
>>321679820
Very little of that.
Roaming is very much needed against experienced players.
A few defenders will hide out of the objective space in odd locations in order to sneak up on the attackers as they are focused on dealing with the people on the objective point. Shit attackers get wiped instantly by this.
That's all I could think which could be similar but roamers are easily countered by using drones correctly and dealing with them first
I quite literally can't get into a game today, neither Casual nor Ranked.
>Hostage mode
>Usually play as Termite
>Somebody picks Termite before me
>Well fuck I guess I pick something else then
>Guy who took Termite switches into Fuze a second before the round start
>>321679526
So...most of the actual SF that exist.
Can't be unorginal when its almost their entire community
>>321677982
Canada has really good special forces m8.
>Ranked
>The game searches people you play with and against based on your rank
>Your rank increases or decreases according to win/lose ratio
>Play with a shitty team
>Rank decreases
>Game searches for low rank players
>Stuck playing with retards
That system is fucking bullshit.
>>321682128
>He plays ranked
They need to remove stationary cameras, and add in placeable cameras. 1 per person. Attackers just know all the positions by now, and defenders lose a huge defense tool
Controversially, I think they should get rid of the drones aswell. 5 drones, there is ZERO chance of the Attackers not learning the exact room or atleast the floor the objective is on. It just makes rounds streamlined because there is few times you get killed far away from the objective. Instead, Attackers should vote for a location to "inspect" and if it happens to coincide with the location that Defenders picked they learn the location of the objective. Its super luck based but its better than Attackers always knowing the spot. It also checks off a location it cannot be, so they have a 3-4 other places to check.
Did they fixed the fucking netcode? thats the only thing keeping me from buying the game
>>321675060
...will?
>>321683158
Placeable cameras is 2 OP
>>321683681
Gives drones mid-round an actual scouting job. Maybe have restrictions but I really dislike the current system. Its good for THunt, but shit for PVP.
>>321680657
Yep, just goes to show you how shit Ubisoft is. This problem was present in alpha, closed beta, open beta and still exists today.
>>321684397
no it doesn't
>>321684463
Yes it does.
its fun but I doubt the longevity
>>321684463
But that's wrong, you retard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wihsmZt4dWM
>>321684741
>Dec 11
post any after the patch on the 15th
>>321683158
pick mute
drone problem solved
>>321684871
You still learn where they are at, unless as Mute you run out and plant random Jammers.
If you get jammed, you know approximately where the objective is because of eliminating other rooms. They should let you spawn where you vote for, I'd like to vote for an objective room and spawn elsewhere to setup shit.
>>321684871
>oh no a jammer!
>jump over it
Oh wow that wasn't so hard
>>321684830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU9xIp-0BCc
There ya go. It's still shit.
Run along now, little Ubishill.
It's fun, but it fails as an operator oberating type of game. if you want that go with Arma 3 or SWAT 4. or Rainbow Six 3.
>>321685356
>>321685230
Pick twitch and put shock wired. Problem solved.
>>321685354
I have already seen that video, it's much improved but there are still issues, nowhere near as bad as the others you posted
>>321685493
why did you quote my post?
It's actually a really good game. Think of a cross between Counter-Strike and Bad Company 2.
40 bucks is a fair price for it I'd say. It's certainly not lacking in content. In fact, it's pretty amazing that a triple A game (from Ubisoft, of all people) comes out and respects a player's ability to problem solve and learn the game mechanics without having to hold you by the hand with a corridor shooter campaign.
>>321685493
>3 electrified wires on top floor
>there's only 1 spawn on top floor
Process of elimination is so hard.
>>321685657
>>321685326
Git gud. Problem solved.
It's good.
Not as good as bf4 but it's good
If you want the best shooter ever get bf4
I wouldnt pay 60 for it, but I bought it from nuuvem when it was around 27USD and it could still be bought via VPN.
Most of the problems you see of DCs and connection issues generally are from console plebs.
Mid December patch helped quite a bit in terms of the networking on PC, but don't expect anything more than a 60tickrate experience if you are used to 90+
It's a very good game, with probably the best and fairest business model I've seen in a AAA from the last couple of years. I don't get why people complain so much about the entry price, considering that you would've been nickle and dimed with the new maps and operators otherwise, probably would've had an even smaller initial roster to begin with.
Though there are obviously some glaring issues, the most obviously being about the general network performance. Games can be quite hard to find at times (this varies a lot in itself even though there's still no lack of players, because the matchmaker can literally get invisibly stuck on several different stages of the matchmaking process. Some people also get disconnected from servers while playing, but this has probably never happened me personally.
its actually really fucking good even better if you can communicate with other people while you are on deffense
>>321685657
in ranked, people know all the defender spawn points by now. the point of using mute or electrified shock wire is to keep drones of of the room so you don't get fuzed or headshotted through a door by glaz or shot in the foot because attackers know exactly where you're at.
>>321672538
It's a lot of fun but I bought it from a keysite for $35 and would suggest purchasing it at a similar price. $60 seems a little steep to me.
>>321672538
I bought it cause it looked interesting to me, and I'm having a fantastic time, I think it'd be more fun with friends, but alone the community isn't half bad and it's a fun game.
>>321688704
Where at? Is it a steam key? Bc im not tryna buy it for uplay
>>321673596
10 maps, 3 game modes, and it was on sale
3 strikes
you're out dumbass
>>321687926
25k per new operator seems like a huge fucking amount. I mean you can get 5k easily in 4-5 hours of playing but its straight constantly playing. They need to add more THunt challenges. There is like, one and you NEVER get it.
>>321672538
I'm a loner, and even so it's fun. Definitely get it.
Just be aware that it requires Uplay, even if you buy it on Steam.
How's the progression in the game?
I've heard from some that it takes fucking forever and encourages people to buy microtransaction to unlock gear
but i've heard from others that the unlocks go pretty quick.
>>321689108
I bought it from G2Play, but the game uses Uplay no matter what DRM service you plug it into, ya goober.
>>321689108
You still need uplay to play it.
>>321689351
The progression is pretty fast. If you play the Situations, which is basically a long tutorial (that you definitely should do) you earn enough in-game monies to buy a lot of operators. You also get daily challenges that earn you more renown, and just from buying the game you get 5 one-day renown boosters which help you earn even more.
>>321689351
Operators are cheap and easy to unlock.
Weapon camo and other cosmetic shit is where you'll end up spending real money (assuming they don't change prices later on).
>>321689726
I should have noted that "Renown" is the in-game money you use to buy operators and gun attachments.
>R6 game
>serious tactical game
>pink pony skins and cod skins
Shit game
Only qualm is Bartlett University. Seriously, fuck this map so much.
>>321689987
Fuck you, that map is awesome and should be in normal multiplayer.
>>321689351
The base operators are cheap as fuck. Some skins are super expensive.
The new operators will be expensive, but they come out every 3 months.
>>321689964
>that no one uses
45 bucks for a chep cd key. Suck my dick
I bought it for my friend and my self and I can say it's an awesome game I just wish that they didn't charge 60 bucks for the retail price because that's literally what's stopping people from buying the game, and because of this it sometimes takes more then a minute to find a game. Other then that they have a couple of bugs that they need to fix like where you get stuck and the only way to get unstuck is to lay down. They class system is great, and so is the gunplay. Id honestly recommend this game, but only if you have some friends to play with.
>>321678469
>Blackwatch for Canada
Blackwatch is a reservist music unit that plays the bagpipes, you dumb piece of shit. If you want to talk actual special forces Canada has CSOR (Army special forces) and JTF-2 (anti-terrorism special forces, outside of the military).
How am I the only one that had MAJOR disconnection issues?Stop making me have refunder's remorse.
>>321690647
fuk off ej
>>321689964
>Doesn't want to look good while operating
>>321690647
Fuck off anon I don't even know who ej is.
If you love mp only arcade shooters with terrible netcode and that gets excruciatingly boring after 6 hours, then it's the game for you.
if you like tactical shooters that keep you on edge because you never know what's around the next corner ala the swat series, this game is not for you.
>friend wants to play with you
well, its kind of expensive, but im sure if youre playing with a friend you can at least squeeze a reasonable handful of enjoyable hours out of any game
go for it, friend
>b-b-ut it's fun with friends ;^)
>>321692008
And alone!
>>321691723
This is false. SWAT may be more realisms but R6S is without a doubt more unpredictable and keeps you more on edge.
>triggered
>>321672538
Video games are never worth your time.
>>321680157
>Also, wish the game had a cover system like Vegas
Vegas' cover system was the worst thing to happen to the R6 series outside of regenerating health in Lockdown.
>>321691723
It's no Raven Shield, to be sure, but I'm enjoying it quite a lot - even as someone who pumped 1000s of hours into RS coop and adversarial.
I know they up the tick rate but they said it was temporary on the patch note
did they lower it down yet?
>>321689351
I've been playing it pretty casually since release and I have all of the operators even though I haven't played any of the situations.
It's likely that the 'DLC' operators will be more difficult to unlock - given that they'll be free. Apparently, they'll cost some 25k renown - but even that isn't an insurmountable amount given that you earn several hundred per match.
>terrorists aren't muslim
>females in special forces
muh safe space military shooter
![fbi_tacteam_boston650[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Ndmrn92.jpg "fbi_tacteam_boston650[1].jpg")
>>321693576
>special forces
Civilian law enforcement special forces, which has had females for quite a while.
Pic related. Female FBI SWAT
>>321692284
are you fucking serious.
this shit still happens
>>321693576
I hate to break it to you, but the FBI and GIGN have women in their ranks in real life.
>>321693576
>Military
>>321693576
>/v/ in charge of knowing anything about the world
>>321694265
>>321693923
>>321693758
I always wondered, are the physical requirements the same for women in forces like FBI? (At least I assume there are some physical tests)
>>321693758
>lets look good for the higher ups who are pressured by progressive politics
kek
>>321694540
Whatever makes you feel better about being wrong.
>>321694523
https://www.fbijobs.gov/physical-fitness-test-protocol
Now for a special unit like SWAT, I don't know, but I'd still wager they're more lenient.
How do I git gud at shield
When I go up against one they seem to be invincible, but when I use one I seem to die from frontier shoot even when I just sit there nicely
>>321694540
Most of the arguments against women in the armed forces go out the window when you're talking about a counter-terrorism unit operating on home soil.
>>321694837
L M A O
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>>321679694
I always pick Fuze during hostage,only killed the hostage once,and that was with the AK-12 during a heated breach
>>321694725
>burning civilian casualties
Seems about right
>>321694725
>implying women aren't propped up for propaganda purposes
why would you choose women for jobs like this anyway, what could they possibly bring to the table that a man couldn't?
>>321695262
>tfw I can only do 1
Is there a sizable community on the PC or will the game be dead in a month?
Remove security cameras and RC cars (except for that one Op). BOOM game is like 5x better- tops.
>>321694948
Don't sit there nicely unless you're montagne with shield fully extended. They can still shoot your hand.
There's still patience that goes in using the shield despite having great 1v1 advantage. You can't just drop it in the middle of a firefight and hope for the best. As montagne, I like to sit there and wait for the enemy to get bored and stare at me, then suddenly drop shield and pop a round in their face.
Blitz you'll probably be moving and shooting a lot more. Stand when you're point blank so they can't accidentally spray the top of your head. Flash on approach, observe their behavior, and decide whether to drop the shield and aim, run up and spray, or just melee. Stand a bit before doorways when you're being a distraction so they can't just throw a nitro cell at you from a sharp angle from inside the room. Be mindful of your flanks.
And never bite off more than you can chew. The shield is great 1v1, but taking on more than two people at once is a death sentence. All that needs to happen is for one person to step a few degrees over and shoot your flank.
>>321695916
It's hard to say the exact player count since Uplay doesn't list the number of players for games like Steam does, but you get into games within 30 seconds usually so it must be sizable.
>>321696014
To add to your post: Also remember it's not your job to kill everyone, as a shield user you're a great distraction. It's even worth firing at enemies if you can't hit them just to scare them so your team can make a move. And always take the semi-automatic pistol as Montagne, the more shots the better especially since you're extra vulnerable when reloading without a secondary weapon.
i was that guyand yes the hostage got killed
>>321696538
I wanna play the game again.
It's really fun, but if you go into it hating it like you clearly do, you're not going to enjoy it.
Don't fucking bother, you'll just shit on it the entire time and ruin your friend's fun.
>>321696538
just don't fuckin play fuze unless you're smart enough to not fuze the hostage room. Pubs almost never sit in the objective room anyways.
>>321695916
I never have any issues getting into a game quickly.
>>321689202
50k amounts to playing about 1.5 hrs a day per month, which isn't a lot.
This game has mad tactics
>tfw dunno what operators to unlock first
>>321689351
It's a cinch
>>321698734
attackers: thermite, thatcher, ash
defenders: mute, rook, castle or jaeger
the only ones that are "bad" are doc, IQ, tachanka. they aren't actually bad but they have very limited use. kapkan can be in considered that too because it's easy to see the traps if you've played the game for more than a few hours.
>>321689202
I don't think so. Once you unlock all the base operators, you're only spending ~300 per primary gun to fully customize it if you don't buy camos. Once you get everyone you're going to do nothing but stack money. You don't even get cosmetics to blow dosh on so once you get everyone and customize their guns you literally don't have to spend a single renown.
>>321698959
>actually using the shield as Fuze
>>321698734
For attackers, Thatcher and Thermite are useful all the time and have decent armor/speed stats. If you're going to get a shield dude, I'd recommend Blitz from GSG 9. That flash shield is extremely useful.
For defenders the ones you want to go with are Rook, Castle, and Mute.
Then again, abilities don't matter all that much. Pick who you want and you'll probably like it.
>>321699250
Tachanka has a really good shotgun and armor stat though. If you are stuck between recruit and Tachanka, pick Tachanka.
>>321700043
yeah, like I said none of them are really bad. some just tend to be more useful overall than others.
>>321693576
>I never played a Rainbow Six game before
Doc is super fucking good especially if paired with rook holy shit anyone saying he's bad has unironic brain damage
>>321698536
>no barb wire
>no barricades
>no jager gadget
>>321695916
Its dying for sure
Times increasing and finding groups for thunt is harder and harder
Sort of surprised. Ubisoft really fucked up this time.
>>321700280
>especially
You should change that to only. Without Rook's armor boost, the chance of teammates being in a down but not out state is extremely low. When that's taken away, his only strength boils down to his self-revive.
Anyone else like Pulse as much as I do?
>>321700553
He's one of the ugliest motherfuckers in the game, though.
>>321700553
Pulse is a pretty awesome roamer. I love being able to use his shotty on the smaller maps like House and Plane.
>>321700553
I'm with you, brother. Knowing which window the attackers are going to breach before they breach it is super useful and the UMP is sex incarnate.
>>321700706
he's like the only operative who's face is showing though, isn't he?
>>321700749
yeah, i just love to shotgun through windows/doors/walls that I know enemies are right behind, taking them out real quick and cleanly
>>321700515
I wouldn't say it's dying because it has 14,000 people playing on Steam right now.
>no character customization system
ignoring the fact even fucking vegas 2 had it
Even god damn shitty cod has that as a standard now. Ubisoft really do stat 1 foot behind everyone else.
This whole character based bullshit pandering to the 'competitive crowd' killed the game.
>>321700528
P90 with acog sight is beast. I defended against 3 enemies with this set up.And I won.
>>321700949
Rook has a P90 as well, and has a much more useful ability.
>>321700924
Thats great anon
Its still dying.
>>321683158
>Not having one defender dealing with drones coming up the stairs
>>321700921
He and the rest of the FBI SWAT CTU wear shades.
>>321701020
It doesn't really matter. If you're doing that, they're going to know that the hostage/bomb/container is upstairs. It's better to spend the time preparing for the worst.
>>321701103
Thermite doesn't really wear shades.
>>321701229
Well he has the welders glasses.
>>321701138
Depends on the map. Bigger maps have more space to cover and knowing the exact location of the defender is much needed information. Defenders can roam the floors and just camp in a totally different place waiting for the attackers.
>>321701018
Under what criterion is it "dying" other than "I want an excuse to not pay $50 even though I'm interested in the game?
>>321700938
>Misses Barbie dress up game
>Misses Vegas
Pls ANON
>>321700938
There's no point in character customization if it's a first person perspective game. Also it's because of balance if you're talking about muh shitty armor pieces from the Vegas series.
>Shield shitter with 1 armor and 3 speed
>>321701630
Why bother? All you will do is claim the game isnt dying, then do some lame attempt at moving the goalposts or strawmanning before shitposting and claiming you 'won'.
For the record, I play and enjoy Siege, but even an idiot can see the game failed to live up to Ubisofts expectations and its dying.
Dont expect a you.
>>321701786
>There's no point in character customization if it's a first person perspective game
Except there is, because even when you cant see your character its something to do and enjoy outside of the gameplay itself. It also gives them a massive new revenue stream to support the game since their camo system is utter shit and no one in the right mind would pay for the horrid crap they are shitting out and calling camo.
I even gave you an example of an FPS which has a customization system that is hugely successful.
>>321701861
All I literally asked was for what you consider dying to be and why it's dying?
>>321678469
Brazilan BOPE has the most hardcore training in the world
>>321701786
> Also it's because of balance if you're talking about muh shitty armor pieces from the Vegas series.
>A customization system for Siege HAS to use the vegas system
How stupid are you.
>>321702110
>if
>>321702364
Why even use the example if even you realize how fucking stupid it is. Stop doing that anon, stop being stupid.
>>321701995
Operators need to be easily recognised. We can't have neon beret and t shirt wearing faggots in every game again. It looks so shit.
>>321701995
AW had character customization, yet no one gives a fuck the game in general. BO3 would have been fine even without the character customization.
>>321699250
cool senpai, only guy i unlocked so far is Mute because he looked cool :^)
>>321702665
>Operators need to be easily recognised
If only there was some sort of UI element at the top of the screen that did that for you
>>321702665
>Operators need to be easily recognised
Except they are not easily recognizable, even in their current form. Every single one looks like a total fucking clone, the only ones that stand out have shields or because you check your ui which tells you what they have.
>>321674042
this is actually significantly more tactical than Vegas across the board.I do think Vegas is very fun, though.
>>321672538
>Is that piece of shit worth my time?
Yes, but not for the 449.25 mexican pesos it costs, wait 'till it gets cheaper.
>>321679269
I'd hope everyone knows this if they're playing online. It's one of the objectives in Thatcher's situation, which everyone should do before going online.
>>321703114
I can tell them apart pretty easily.
You've only got two defenders per CTU.
It's easy enough to distinguish the CTUs from one another.
Castle is black pulse is white
Rook has black armour plates/ doc has white armour plates
Jaeger and bandit have different coloured tops and helmets and so on
Fairly easy to tell
>>321699250
yeah but Kapkan is fantastic at area denial if they didn't bring a Thatcher or a Twitch, there's other ways to take them down but it's still nice
>>321683158
I see you don't play with a high rank
>It just makes rounds streamlined because there is few times you get killed far away from the objective
If you don't approach carefully from the get go a good team will fuck you up with roamers. Everyone knows cameras yes, but destroying them gives info to the defenders. Without drones the game would be impossible for attackers
It's non-ranked where people lock themselves up to the container room and the attackers rush it senselessly. Try playing with a stack and get a high rank
>>321672538
Like you have anything better to do faggot
>>321702986
only appears when you ID and is pretty useless info when you need to know who you are shooting at on screen.
You probably want to rush down a roaming defender but you don't want to be baited by a Kapkan or Smoke. You don't want to press up against a wall if you just saw Pulse retreat in the room.
>>321679691
They've got these trigger happy motherfuckers.
>>321701018
>Its still dying.
Actually, the game hit a new peak player number only yesterday. It's growing rather than dying.
>>321676178
I play FUZE on hostage all the time, but I've never once killed a hostage with his grenade cluster. The grenade cluster is very useful during fightfights. I'm not retarded for picking FUZE, I'd be retarded if I incorrectly used FUZE.
