How the FUCK do they do it /v/?
Marketing.
>>321668195
they don't have real competition
Europeans are smart enough to realize that Xbone is a NSA spy machine.
They're the only ones dedicated to supporting the console market.
Everyone else wants to chase the muhhoementerttainmunt business that no one asked for.
>>321668195
PS3 had the best exclusives (if you exclude the Wii, which is considered a kiddy console by most people anyway) so that carried some weight with decision-making of the buyers. Also it has the best versions of popular sports games (FIFA and shit), had a decent library (not at launch but whatever) and has the best upcoming console exclusives (SF5 for one).
Face it, Sony won. The only competition PS4 faces is the PC, and even that is laughable if you look at the state of the recent releases PC got optimization wise.
Because Europeans are dumb and can't understand advanced features in anything, same with Xbox and PS4, same with automatic and manual transmission, the europeans have their nose so up their ass with 'muh culture muh legacy' that they can't even think straight anymore
>>321668415
>europoors
>Smart
>>321668195
Sony is making video games great again.
The premier dudebro console tripped over the starting line and the ps4 got to collect the spill.
>>321668195
timed exclusivity in yearly release roster update sports games helped a lot, as that's the main seller for europe
>>321668195
Because in Europe there is PSX nostalgia
PSX was the most popular console in Europe
because that specifically says console market, the only alternatives are xbox and wii u, most people who arent literally retarded will buy a ps4 over and xbone, and not everyone wants to shell out a few hundred bucks to play some kids games that will get old after an hour
>>321668195
Fifa
>>321668195
Xbox is all-american console with exclusive handegg stuff. No divegrass, no euro.
>Xbox is marketed to AMERICAN dudebro college fags.
>PS4 is marketed as a gaming system.
Man, working in PR at Sony must be the easiest job in the world when your only competition just shoot themselves in the foot for a living.
>>321668564
Literally the exact opposite last gen
>muh fifa
Euro consolefags are the worst casuals there are
NSA.
>>321668976
>PS4
>Gaming system
>Has no games
Who here true master race with pc, xbone, ps4, 3ds and wii u?
>>321669046
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ps4-playstation-4-gamer-chat-monitored-by-anti-terror-agents-spies-italy-italian-minister-andrea-a6753471.html
>>321669075
This meme hasn't been true since 2007
>>321668415
The 360 was huge in Germany while the bone is a total flop. Weaker hardware, higher price, TV-in in a world where noone watches TV anymore, every game requiring 10s of gigs of updates.
The bone is a fucking disaster.
>>321669273
>No one watches tv anymore
>Everyone buys a tv not for tv but for video games
I think we spotted the retard
>live in europe
>all my friends own an xbone
>all their friends own an xbone
>there's one guy who owns a ps4 and we all laugh at him
i doubt the validity of these statistics
>>321668195
Wasn't Playstation always the dominant brand in Europe though? Xbox only ever ruled supreme in America.
>>321669273
360 was a PR catastrophe in many European countries because it launched in 2006, and then if you weren't German, British, French or Scandi you've had to wait till 2009(Russia, Spain) or 2011(Czech Rep. Baltic republics, Hungary etc.) to get Live support. Imagine, console has been in some places for 5 years and didn't had live support.
>>321669389
>m-muh anecdotal evidence
lmao
>>321668195
> Sony exec makes vague, unsourced comments
Guess it must be true then.
>>321669273
>higher price
Maybe it's because the xbone is crashing hard but it was almost 100 cheaper than a ps4 with more games bundled this year.
>>321669372
Most people stream shows with their smart TVs or use apple sticks or whatever to watch their content. TV is literally dead if you're not a granny.
>>321669517
>muh vague comments from a sony exec paid to make his brand sound good
>>321668705
The Wii was the undisputed winner of last gen with the largest install base. Yes, they're mostly casuals but they had a steady stream of good games.
>>321669273
>implying boogie isn't being cucked
>>321668195
By having the objectively far and away best console of this generation at a good price and the competition being utter fucking retards. They have a solid selection of games for the overall market for a console at this point in its life, and now that they've got full momentum the flood is starting next year. Their Q1 lineup looks fantastic. That's really all there is to it, not complex this time.
Microsoft should have won FWIW, they had all the inherent advantages. But they fucked up badly trying to make a CENTER HUB OF YOUR DIGITAL LIVING ROOM at this point rather then just focusing on gaming potential. Nintendo tried their dumb gimmick shit without understanding the market had changed. Both have had bouts of anti-consumer bullshittery (more recently then Sony which has a hangover from the PS3/Vita and all their other horseshit in the '00s). The end.
>>321669075
>le nogaem maymay
It's getting better and better to see /v/'s desperation to shitpost about the PS4 look more and more retarded.
>>321669372
not him, but I fail to see you make any fucking sense m8
people buy tv's for consoles, hooking it up on pc's (like me), to watch blurays, and for streaming purposes like netflix and chromecastdumbshit
>>321669545
top cuck
>>321669649
>PS4
>Line up
>>321669617
I'm guessing most use their pcs or consoles nowadays. Both PS4 and Xbone have Netflix/Stan/Crunchyroll/Youtube.
>>321669778
Show me xbone lineup.
Note that for dudebro games sonnyggers can show you uncharted, the order or driveclub.
This means we're going g to get lots of good games, just like the PS2 r-right?
>>321669736
that's a foreign language meme that literally fucking disproves the statistic the sony exec is saying.
just in case you can't into numbers, 53% is not equal to or greater than 70%. it's actually less.
Europeans have always had class and superior taste. Americans have repressed maturity, rampant manchildism and simply have a different way of life.
>>321669849
No. What happened during PS2 era is completely different thing.
>>321669839
>the order
>dudebro
just stop fucking embarrassing yourself
>>321668751
>>321669778
Like I said, your desperate ebin maymay spamming just gets better and better as the Free Market blows you the fuck out. It's been a while now but I think it took around 4 years until
>599 NOGAEMS
finally became so obviously stupid that even inbreds like you realized it , I guess that'll probably be similar this time around too. Keep up the good fight anon as the PS4's merits keep it winning :^).
Its probably Marketing mostly imo. Im ENglish and i see PS4 adverts fucking everywhere and next to no Xbone ones. Most people i know have bought a ps4 but its mostly for FEEFAR and COD
>>321669839
Honestly, the best thing for gaming about PS4 that makes a real difference is the indie network. Those are the real exclusives.
>>321669907
When comparing current gen, PS4 has 74% marketshare lmao
>>321668751
>muh PC enlightenment
There are so many fucking this wrong with your platform you don;t even realize it, the first reason being it doesn't get half the fucking games next year.
>>321668195
For starters:They have no competition because of many many fuckups done by Microsoft and Nintendo
ThenSony pushed hard for exclusive deals that people want
Xbox can't even do Halo right anymore.
And COD went with Sony for a lot of shit.
Nintendo hasn't been relevant since the Gamecube.
And no I am not talking about the Wii was somehow unsuccessful, it is more that the market it went for and the lack of quality control basically guaranteed that nobody would want the Wii U(Which also did poorly because of dumb shit Nintendo pulled again)
>>321669618
Is a person who bought an xbone trying to pretend they're smart?
>>321668195
80% of Xbone's features don't work outside of North America, some of those only with the US. No use for Eurofags to pay full price for something where you can't use most of the shit.
The Xbone was marketed as a home entertainment hub, with gaming being one of those features. The PS4 was marketed as a gaming console that could also do other shit.
>>321668195
>black shit invading europe
GEE, what else is new?!
>>321670114
you can't obtain that information accurately from that chart, you moron
>>321670117
It just means Sony made the right decisions, as a company
>>321669868
>hey guys breaking news the PC has better grafix then a $300 console!!!!
>>321670159
Did MS ever fix the 50hz PAL TV judder?
>>321670073
I haven't seen a single XBONE or much less Wii U commercial on TV or a movie theater, ever. All of them have been PS4. Guess they're not even trying to appeal to the European market.
>>321668195
Remember when xbone came only in few countries, that is why. M$ said screw you and customers said the same.
>>321669868
you forgot this one bro
>>321669649
>Microsoft should have won FWIW, they had all the inherent advantages.
Not really. The PS3 caught up with the 360 thanks to rest of world sales even with 360 dominance in the USA. Microsoft made very little effort to build their brand outside of America and the UK.
Sony also didn't let them have a year head start this time.
>>321670185
53+9+9= 71
53/71 = 74.6%
Basic math bud
why do ps4 owners feel the need to shit on everyone else? is it because the ps4 isn't very good and they're hiding their shame?
>>321670480
DELETE THIS
>70-90%
hope you euros are ready to get fucked in the ass by sony
>>321670480
that's literally not how percentages work. you'd need to know the sales figures for each console.
it's cute that you're trying though.
Consoles have always been dedicated gaming systems that are basically designed to play games for the longest time possible until developers literally stop supporting its hardware.
That's what consoles have always been about, the fucking games.
It was never meant to evolve into an 8 legged $3000 hobby in which you masturbate over a giant virginic monolith in your room while gloating about all its side features, multi monitor capability, gigahurts in rams and performance and all this other fedora hobbyist shit.
Consoles have and always will be machines for people who like to play games and place a higher importance on software than console bashing people for enjoying those games because a game hass less frames and lights in the draw distance.
>>321669465
after the death of SEGA, "Playstation" became basically synonym for "console" here.
XBOX really became a thing with the 360
>>321670520
they have bloodborne
I want bloodborne
I don't give a fuck about anything else though so I'm not buying yet
>>321670159
> The Xbone was marketed as a home entertainment hub, with gaming being one of those features. The PS4 was marketed as a gaming console that could also do other shit
This is what fucking gets me. Last gen Ps3 was the entertainment system and the 360 was purely game based. Why did they start marketing it as an all-rounder? It backfired so hard. Microshill failed at marketing the xbone and back peddled. They changed the console by release but by then it was too late. What were they thinking.
>>321670520
>why do ps4 owners feel the need to shit on everyone else?
>>321670219
They knew how to market and said the right things to get people interested.
But it also helped that their competition fucked up repeatedly several times in a row.
I mean the Xbone's initial reveal was a huge fuckup. Same with forced Kinect integration, the pricetag and things like that.
Then they go further and fuck up Halo and have little else to note.
COD players went to where the DLC went, which Sony snagged timed exclusive DLC on and that extended past Black Ops 3.
Microsoft did what? Fuck up Halo, mess up Gears and have about as much presence as the Wii U in terms of relevance.
Don't even need to mention how Wii U messed up being relevant besides the stupid name and the controller(Even if it is kind of nice)
Not to mention Nintendo has a lack of popular third party games and that's what is pushing a lot of sales right now.
>>321670520
>ps4 isn't very good
Maybe so, but I can't think of a better current gen console at the moment. Maybe that is why PS4 is winning.
>>321668773
The xbone only really sells well in the states. Neither asia nor europe seem to be interested in it. So yes, it probably has something to do with being smarter than burgerclaps.
>>321669868
>I like to pretend the argument between PS4 and PC isn't relative to money spent and I will conveniently refrain from telling you those extra lights in the draw distance come at a $1000 mark up.
Heh, a $300 PC really outshines a $300 PS4 heh, believe me buddy, just check the picture heh
Sonydrones supporting a console over empty promises
>I-I bought the ps4 because it has a future, t-the games are coming
>>321670219
>It just means Sony made the right decisions, as a company
I don't understand why /v/ has such trouble getting this. The PS4 is basically the anti-PS3, simple as that. They took most of the good bits (standard SATA drive, quiet, region free etc) and ditched the humongous blunders (massively expensive, baroque system design, terrible starting dev support,etc), while simultaneously managing the avoid the temptation to go with any major gimmicks. The only ones they tried out were the lightbar and touch pad, both of which cost pennies and have minimal negative effect. The lightbar is the most irritating and purely shit, but it didn't actually compromise the console either.
Meanwhile Microsoft and Nintendo went with ~$100-150 gimmicks and lost sight of their core focus, as a result gimping their hardware. Microsoft got arrogant and was fighting the wrong fight, Xbone is perhaps the final example of the HUGE dysfunction at that company (they have since started turning their shit around). Nintendo didn't (maybe still doesn't) understand the changing market conditions at all.
Frankly both should have been better then Sony easily, because they both had a far stronger financial position or solid core IP or both. Sony didn't do anything complex or crazy, they just worked to not be shit. As it happens that's all it took this time. It's not some amazing praiseworthy deed but I don't think there's anything they need to feel bad about either.
>>321669014
And last gen xbox dominated...
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>>321668824
>Sony
>games
lol
>Anon constantly needs to justify his purchase
If it were any good, you'd be busy doing something better, like playing games on your favorite console, rather than trying to justify having one.
>>321670840
>Italy at number 4
hahahaha bullshit list
>>321670863
>>321670520
Because it's amusing to see the competition self destroys I guess
>>321670745
Microsoft is trying to take control of how people enjoy media and entertainment much more directly.
See Windows 10 to understand their philosophy right now.
>>321670926
>And last gen xbox dominated...
360 sold about the same as PS3 when it was all said and done.
>>321669389
live in europe? where exactly
>>321670840
>mongolia at nr. 5
You cant just say the competition fucked up for 3 years straight.
>>321670840
What happens if you remove niggers and illegals from the equation Mr. europoor?
>>321670840
>That list
>IQ not being a shitty meme system in general
O, I am laffin.
>>321668901
It was the most popular everywhere!
Well, except for Brazil where the Master System reigned supreme.
>>321671049
It played a large part in it.They were fucking up for a lot longer than that
>>321670645
Even if PS4 was 52.5% rounded up and XB1 and Wii U were 9.49% rounded down. It would still be >70%
Is anyone else here done with Nintendo?
I can't carry that weight anymore, /v/, I just can't keep defending them.
As of Christmas I enlisted in the Sonygger army.
>>321668705
>It had the best exclusives if you ignore the console that actually had the best exclusives :^)
>>321671171
>memes and console war bullshit
The worst of /v/ in one post.
>>321668195
Cause Microsoft fucked up bigtime and Sony announced they were making a console that wasn't all that different from the last one they made.
>>321671116
There are still plenty of stupid white people.
The Japanese made video games great again.
>>321671116
#1 Mutti said they're all rocket scientists
#2 italy will go down to 92
>>321670381
On my train there were ads for PS tv covering the entire train. Nothing about games. People just can't seem to forget the bones announcement and still think its the same console.
>>321671021
Ur mums pussy sold the same m8
>>321671430yeah but blacks alone literally drag our IQ down 3 points,i wish i was fucking joking
>>321671465
>Mutti said they're all rocket scientists
top kek, anyone got that image of 100% black detroit?
>>321671116
How about we remove mudshits aswell then?
>>321670418
>Not really.
Yes, really. This is the first generation where custom hardware has mostly gone out the window for consoles (for good), basically taking them to the same place that the rest of the PC industry ended up by the end of the 1990s. At this point it's pretty much a pure silicon play: you go to AMD or whomever and a foundry, and you tell them what you want. They'll sell you as much silicon as you are willing to pay for, simple as that. There's work in figuring out the best way to balance the BOM, but at the end of the day if two companies are pursuing the same goal then the one that can afford to take a $100 hit per console and pours that all into silicon will have a HUGE advantage. GPUs in particularly are trivially scalable these days, you just need to pay for more CUs.
Additionally, Microsoft has solid network services expertise, has a lot of institutional knowledge in attracting and retaining devs (their IDE and overall frameworks are damn good and a not widely appreciated reason for the long dominance of Windows), investments they can amortize in Windows gaming, etc etc. They SHOULD have had fundamental advantages over Sony. They lost because they just didn't pursue the same goal at all.
>Sony also didn't let them have a year head start this time.
It wasn't Sony "letting them" or not, it was Microsoft having dysfunctional schedule. Sony merely was good.
They do it like that
>>321671575
do mudslimes make up 13% of your population?
>>321669389
Say your country dumbass.
Here in Italy almost everyone have a ps4 for FIFA and cod.
>>321669496
>360 was a PR catastrophe in many European countries because it launched in 2006, and then if you weren't German, British, French or Scandi you've had to wait till 2009(Russia
If I remember correctly, 360 was much more popular because it was the earliest to get the CFW.
Consoles have always been dedicated gaming systems that are basically designed to play games for the longest time possible until developers literally stop supporting its hardware.
That's what consoles have always been about, the fucking games.
It was never meant to evolve into an 8 legged $3000 hobby in which you masturbate over a giant virginic monolith in your room while gloating about all its side features, multi monitor capability, gigahurts in rams and performance, hoarding thousands of $2 flash games and all this other fedora-tier hobbyist shit. Your platform doesn't get half the fucking games each gen.
Face the music you weak faggot you like AAA games just not when they're on consoles. Nobody likes PC exclusives then 'just' likes Multiplat AAA's, they havent been good since 2007. You either hate all AAA's and enjoy PC exclusives which is respectable and justifies your platform or you're a weak faggot that's in denial. It's that simple.
Consoles have and always will be machines for people who like to play games who place a higher importance on software than console bashing people for enjoying those games because a game hass less frames and lights in the draw distance.
>>321668195
there's no competition
there's no reason to get an Xbone
the Wii U is targeting a different demographic
>>321668195
europoors fucking love their soccer
>>321671769
>the Wii U is targeting a different demographic
Going by sales I would say a non-existent demographic.
>>321671640
>the last guardian
so is it actually confirmed or what
>>321671446
BUILD XBOX
>>321671897
its supposed to come out next year
don't be surprised if it gets fucking delayed again
>>321670850
>$1000 mark up
Why do you need to lie to yourself, son? Is it really that hard to accept facts? You can have fun with your shitbox and also be a man on the internet at the same time you know.
>>321671897
Indeed.
Until it's de-confirmed that is
They used the Apple strategy of making people but their shit for the brand
>>321671171
>Is anyone else here done with Nintendo?
This gen? Yes. I'm sick of their horseshit, both on hardware and in terms of NoA and Treehouse. NoJ can't dodge responsibility for never bothering to pay the slightest attention to shit beyond Japan at this point, sorry but it's not 1995 anymore. If they don't care to put in the time to think about us then I don't care to give them my money.
But I'm not writing them off at all either, because there IS talent there, and solid IPs. And they can totally turn it around in the current era, they no longer have to deal with the shit of having their own manufacturing or massive R&D or whatever, they can literally compete on an even ground with MS/Sony no problem. MS & Sony have gone through/are going through their own stagnation and attempted rebirths, as have so many other tech companies. If Nintendo gets their shit together I will be in line Day 1, they haven't done anything worth holding a grudge over IMO.
>>321671769
>the Wii U is targeting a different demographic
I'd say they wanted to target same demographic, or at least closer one than they did with Wii, problem is everyone thinks they don't and they're targetting Wii casuals
>>321671671
Probably even more. The sad thing? Those mudshits are still smarter than the average american :^)
>>321670938
/thread
Tired of little brats console wars shitposting in here 24/7. PC wins by default, also the "new" gen shitboxes are worse hard-ware wise than the last gen shitboxes.
All facts a real man and vidya enthusiast can admit.
You kids are no men.
>>321671640
>TWO games announced almost 10 years ago
As I said, sonydrones that love to be fucked in the ass
>>321671741
saved
>>321671741
Stop using the image I created for shitposting, while you are right about PC not getting half the games the image was made as a celebration of the games themselves, not for console waring.
>>321672050
>muh marketing
Though that you compare it to Apple shows what a neckbeard retard you are and explains why you have such trouble grasping this simple stuff. You're going to have a confusing and angry life I guess as the world mysterious confounds your idiot expectations over and over again. But it can't be you of course, it must be the SHEEPLE!
>>321672192
>t. Muhammad
you can't seriously believe what you just said can you?
>>321670117
>Nintendo hasn't been relevant since the Gamecube.
Nintendo hasn't been relevant since the N64.
>>321671741
>Nobody likes PC exclusives then 'just' likes Multiplat AAA's
Says who?
>Multiplat AAA havent been good since 2007
Then whats the fucking point of PS4?
$400 Bloodborne machine?
>>321672271
>NOGAEMS XD
>games posted
>T-TH-THOSE GAMES D-DON'T COUNT!!!
>more games >>321671741
>NUH-UH THOSE N-NEITHER
every time
>>321671741
The average shitbrat on /v/ these days kids, make a picture!
>>321672346
THIS fucking PC faggot false flagger.
I made that image you fucking retard, I even have the PSD's on file if you don't believe me. PC is a garbage platform and its presence has damaged the gaming industry.
Stop trying to weasel your way out of it by pretending to claim ownership over things you have no part in you fucking PC cuck.
>>321672420
Whats the point of the PS4? I just said so in my post, to play fucking games. I gets multiplats and exclusives.
>>321672420
But the PS4 isn't $400 and is bloodborne even on that picture at all? You need to update your bot.
>>321668195
The other two shat the bed early on while Sony didn't. It's not that hard to figure out.
>>321672353
People were buying the ps4 before it had any games announced, a lot of people bought the ps3 for the last guardian and then they bought the ps4 for the same game, and are actually happy that sony confirmed that maybe the game will come out eventually
Sonydrones are the biggest whores in this industry, Sony did a great job taming their retarded fanbase
As understandable the PS4 hate here is, Sony doing well this gen is only improving gaming overall. Last gen the Wii dominated, leading to the popularity of mobile gaming and developers dumbing down their games to chase the casual audience. This gen we have Microsoft actually trying to focus on their niche audience they realized they'll never lead, more devs supporting cross-multiplayer in their games, better optimized PC games due to the similar architecture and a complete revival of the Japanese console market. I mean shit, look at what's coming next year alone. The gaming industry is restablizing its self. You can ignore the PS4 and still reap the benefits of it doing wellNintendo is absolutely fucked though.
>>321671591
This post is wrong from the 3rd sentence.
>1 AMD doesn't have their own silicone plants, they use TSMC(like nvidia) and recently switched over to Samsung because Apple also uses TSMC and they caused delays too often.
>2 AMD designed current gen consoles but they can as well design single part of it(like GPU) while Microsoft or Sony engineers would put it into bigger system(likely also built by other companies)
>3 console manufacturers can, in theory design their own consoles from the ground up but ever since the end of 90's it's simply not affordable, to do it you need absolute top tier engineers and companies that base their business on delivering varied software or hardware like microsoft or sony can't do it just like smaller companies like nintendo can't. Small focused companies like IBM do it whole the time, "big" hardware companies can also easily afford doing it - see Apple, Nvidia, Intel(they even have their own plants), Qualcomm, AMD etc. etc.
>4 the nail in the coffin to "custom" consoles are certain patent/anti-competition laws that make designing x86 CPU by company like microsoft impossible, while, at the same time, cost-effectiveness on game dev side demands common architecture between consoles and PC's.
>>321672371
Listen, I'm speaking numbers here. The average european is smarter than the average american. That's a fact. And if there's more mudshits in europe than niggers in america then yes, mudshits are smarter than americans.
The attitude of PC gamers in the west is quite something to behold, it's extremely pro-consumer but funnily enough to its own disadvantage.
Basically what happened before and during the PS360 gen is the rise of PC gaming and the mass migration. Those who had been raised by consoles were now turning their backs on them yet in such a way that instead of seeing them as platforms that supported game development for over a decade, they were now seen as mere obsolete pieces of hardware designed by greedy companies to hold back their gaming experience. This propelled the already growing subculture of PC superiority as we know it today.
What PC migraters failed to realize was the consequences of damaging consoles market share for it was to directly impact the capacity for the industry to fund and develop games in the wake of rising game budgets. Good hardware doesn't buy good games and many thought by moving forward in terms of consumer hardware would move the infrastructure that supports software development forward too, however, they simply didn't care to understand how that industry works and why it doesn't cater to the consumer with the best hardware and also how it ultimately puts them at a disadvantage provided their goal is to receive new software in the first place. The the relationship consoles and software developers share has since became demonized and attacked for simply operating under a sustainable model of financial and structural support that works for both the developer to provide software, the console manufacturer and ultimately the consumer.
As games continue to evolve they will simply continue to work hand in hand with console manufacturers who will adapt to the changes with hardware iterations toward the end of their life cycles. It is this infrastructure of complimentary support that actually holds the gaming industry together and drives it forward while also ensuring developers stay afloat and remain profitable and continue to make the games.
Monopoly incoming
>console exclusives are cancer of game industry, muh anticonsumer
>yeah, finally PC only game, suck on it, peasants
>devs, don't port it to consoles, PC only game is best thing
Who do you think says this?
>>321670910
This. But this is also a problem in a sense where the market doesn't want innovation. It just wants better graphics and cheaper prices. Microsoft and Nintendo tried to innovate their consoles with gimmicky ideas to further video games as a whole, but what they got was that no one cares for voice control, motion sensors, online market sharing, dual screen ingenuity. They just want to play games on something that can run games. Sony marketed towards that. They just showed what games they had while Microsoft and Nintendo tried to show off their consoles.
That's why they failed. That's why games will fail.
>>321672761
like i said, niggers literally bring our average down 3+ points, we have 41 million black people to your 44 million muzzies. Besides you posted an un-cited image.
why am i even bothering? You are just a shitposting Europoor anyway. You don't care about facts, just shitting on a country that you have never visited and never will have any effect on your life.
For the price of a good PC, one in which you will actually see a tangible and respectable difference in performance compared to consoles you're simply going to have to spend upwards of a thousand dollars.
Building a barbones piece of shit and gloating about marginally outperforming consoles is retard tier because either way, you're still paying more to end up receiving less quality games. MGSV and various other games already run at 1080p 60fps on PS4 but performance is largely irrelevant to us.
Now for a $1000 you can get a ps4, xbox and wiiU + their exclusives at retailed price combined. You also get to play xenoblade, bloodborne, scalebound, bayonetta 2, persona 5, horizon zero dawn, gravity rush 1 + 2, Star Ocean 5, FFXV, etc etc etc
So do you buy a $1000 space station with no games or platforms to play all the games? It's a simple answer.
>>321673156
>You also get to play xenoblade, bloodborne, scalebound, bayonetta 2, persona 5, horizon zero dawn, gravity rush 1 + 2, Star Ocean 5, FFXV
you can't play them because half of them are not released yet.
>>321672804
Wrong
>>321673156
super wrong
Why anyone bothers with you consoleturd kids anymore is completely beyond me.
most of europeans (including myself) were dispointed with x360 so we jumped the ship and went for ps4 with hopes that it will be another successful ps2. Well... its not. But neither is xbone.
>>321673028
Do they praise gaben and wear fedora?
>>321672824
Sony is too frail for that and M$ got infinite money thanks to Windows so no.
The only monopoly that could happen is if MS managed to sink Sony which could happen easily.
>>321673096
>That's why games will fail.
Nah, gimmicks none want fail, that's all and that's good.
>>321673102
Would it really kill you to just google 'average IQ per country'? Oh well, your lower IQ is showing.
>>321673156
How about you stop being fucking poor and buy all of them + a good PC?
Nintendo isn't a choice for the gamer since it's not mature enough, doesn't get many 3rd parties in comparison and has so many less graphics.
Xbone shot itself in the leg with their locked discs and NSA, tons of bad publicity right there, only the fanboys stuck with Xbone.
Sony kinda won by default and they sure marketed Xbone's weaknesses and their own strengths. 4daplayer and so on, we won't fuck you over etc.
I remember how they boasted about not locking your games to one console,as if that's a thing to be proud of. I was always able to sell my used games in the past, now you want me to be thankful for being able to do what I please with my property?
>>321672740
>This post is wrong from the 3rd sentence.
You apparently have major reading comprehension issues. Particularly since you then go on to completely agree with everything I wrote.
>>1 AMD doesn't have their own silicone plants
First, silicon and silicone aren't the same anon. Second, I said AMD and a FOUNDRY. If you don't know what the word "foundry" means (hint, TSMC is one) then just stop right now.
>2 AMD designed current gen consoles
No, AMD supplied the APU IP to order. Overall console design is up to the OEM (MS/Sony in this case, but could be anyone else too).
>3 console manufacturers can, in theory design their own consoles from the ground up but ever since the end of 90's it's simply not affordable
No shit, that's exactly what I said. Although again, console makers made the mistake of delaying realizing this, leading to the debacle that was last gen when they DID try to once again design from the ground up. That's what created the Cell and blew a multibillion hole in Sony's bottom line.
>4 the nail in the coffin to "custom" consoles are certain patent/anti-competition laws that make designing x86 CPU by company like microsoft impossible, while, at the same time, cost-effectiveness on game dev side demands common architecture between consoles and PC's.
No, as mobile (ARM based) shows very clearly. It would still be possible to go full custom, but it wouldn't be cost or performance effective (again, as I said, just like PCs by the end of the 90s) in terms of hardware.
I don't even know what you're trying to argue here.
>>321673423
>not posting counterarguments
>>321673156
>upwards of a thousand dollars.
maybe with gayming monitor + gayming mouse + gayming keyboard
sweetspot will always be 756$
>>321673028
A brat? The same kind of brat you are you passive aggressive little shit. Kill yourself.
In the beginning I wasn't really feeling the "this is for the players" slogan and it seemed a little cheesy. But after owning my PS4 for over a year now, I definitely understand. It feels like the PS4 was designed from top to bottom for gamers by gamers. I feel a really strong sense of pride and connectivity whenever I play PS4 with the largest network of gamers on the planet each of us enjoying a unique experience from a vast and varied library of games.
2016 and 2017 lineup also looks absolutely fantastic.
Bravo Sony.
I own a Wii u, xbone, ps4, and a gaymen PC. I just enjoy playing games. Currently playing the new Tomb Raider, its bretty gud.
>>321673464
how about you post a cited source, since you were making the argument to begin with.
You can't post an uncited "source" then scream
when I point it out.
Like I said you are either just shitposting or are incredibly insecure about America.
>>321668415
>implying the NSA needs an Xbox to spy on you
>>321673448
> Nah, gimmicks none want fail, that's all and that's good.
Did you even read what I wrote?
>>321673442
It's really too early to judge this generation friend.
IMO the PS4 will have a memorable library with time but we'll have to wait for that to happen.
>>321673603
>I enjoy shit
good for you
I own a 4k 2440p gaming PC that runs all games at max settings at 140fps.
I actually have no idea how people play at 60fps anymore, I literally cannot enjoy games that run at 60fps without getting motion sickness. It's completely cinematic and it is mind boggling why someone would settle for such low standards.
How do people not realize they are literally holding back the gaming industry and preventing it from evolving into a higher standard for my personal enjoyment?
>>321673603
This plus 3DS. True master race.
>>321673532
Counterarguments to completely idiotic claims? Do you walk up to every year old and help them get a somewhat decent education?
Neither do I, son, neither do I.
>>321673532
because it's a fucking copypasta it doesn't deserve a reply because you're just going to post the fucking thing again tomorrow.
no, people switching to PC from console isn't the death of gaming you complete retard
So which should I buy /v/?
Xbone is cheaper than a PS4 by 50 buckaroos.
>>321673741
>games are now shit
All hail neo/v/
>>321673423
Console wars are cancer so you cringy le mustard race faggots go to reddit to circlejerk
>>321673749
specs?
>>321673828
PS4.
>>321673828
350 cheeseburgers
>>321673828
Either get bundles or check online for their sales on psn or xbox live store. It's a good time to get a console.
>>321673849
just tomb raider
>>321673828
PS4 is better in every way. Xbone is dead in the water.
>>321673442
I thought most of europeans (including my comrades) need a PS4 just for FIFA 16.
>>321673828
if america then xbox
if europe than PS4
xbox has shit support outside the states, despite the arguably better lineup
>>321673156
>I can't afford it therefore it sucks: the post
I hope you understand gaming is a hobby, a luxury. Nobody cares that you're poor.
>>321672726
>People were buying the ps4 before it had any games announced
It literally had games at launch anon. Again you confuse "I don't like those" with "nothing": seriously do you have actual brain issues? How can you not grasp this? If we were talking about what you personally liked then sure, but if we're talking about the overall market then what you (or I) personally prefer is not relevant. Period.
>random anecdote/weaseling, "a lot of people"
Numbers faggot. The PS2 sold 155+ million. The PS3 sold like 80 million. Even assuming zero market growth at all, there are tens of millions of former Sony owners who never, ever touched the PS3 library at all, ever. You have a large hill to climb if you want to argue that it's all "rebuying." Additionally
>complaining about re-releaes and retreads vs PC, Microsoft and Nintendo
Lol? Nintendo is the worst (or best, depending on what you like) about it, but the entire industry does it and long has. Particularly given that full BC had to be broken to move to x86 it's not a bad decision.
>>321668195
This is how
>>321674091
So now we're talking about someone deserving gaming just because he can, whereas someone that ''can't'' shouldn't?
>le capitalismo
>>321671741
>You're not allowed to criticize console hardware.
>Be a good consumer
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I wonder who is behind this post.
>>321674262
fuck off commie scum
>>321668195
It's a Japanese console that caters to western audience. That's how.
>>321673448
>Sony has a 90% Market share of the international console market
>has at least 50% market share in US with the rest divided between MS and Nintendo
>makes so much money that it would make a Dubai Oil man green with envy
>MS XBOX division literally bleeding money
>getting their asses handed to them royally by Sony
>thinking about leaving the console industry
>"Hurr Microsoft could easily sink them"
You are talking out of your ass.
>>321674262
>someone deserving gaming just because he can
>whereas someone that ''can't'' shouldn't?
wat
>>321671741
If consoles were meant just for games, why is the PS4 advertised as a multimedia platform somehow on par with a PC despite having none of it?
Are you starting to get tempted already?
You'll be in company of lots of great games and lots of great friends
>>321674341
Everytime, search the meaning of the word you brainwashed faggot.
BTW, there has never been a comunist country EVER, just because you call an apple orange doesn't make it one.
>please an hero
>>321674448
Because sonynyggers are blind
>>321673749
You're basically complaining that everyone else is poor. Why not develop your own games Anon?
>>321674478
jesus christ so many generic anime games
>>321673156
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGf4SVWEw2g
Console waring and shitposting retarded ancient myths needs to be a fucking permaban.
It was fun until 08 watching you kids wallow in your filth, it's just painful at this point and simply ruins the board.
You are underdeveloped insanely moronic little shits that are no gain whatsoever for this community or the vidya. Never was I more serious when saying Fucking Kill Yourself.
>>321673096
>This. But this is also a problem in a sense where the market doesn't want innovation
No anon, the market certain wants "innovation." But it must
A) BE GOOD
and
B) BE IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
There are no inherent prizes for change for change's sake. It is quite possible for change to be bad. It has to be a net win, taking into account everything else as well. Merely doing "well it's so new and fresh" doesn't mean jack shit.
Second, "innovation" can, you know, be SOFTWARE too, not just hardware. "Innovation" isn't always "revolution", sometimes it can be refinement and new gameplay ideas and such. "Merely" making a solid, decent core hardware foundation and leaving the innovation mostly up to software developers is not necessarily a bad thing at all.
>blops 4 bundle
>uncharted bundle
>star wars bundle
fuck. i have no interest in cod. star wars is supposed to be shit. i already played all the uncharted games on ps3.
which fucking bundle do i get.
fuck you sony, give me a bloodborne or fallout 4 bundle.
>>321674397
They also didn't murder their indie support. Ps4 is basically a PC
PC bros, I'm fucking scared, what are us PC master race going to be playing next year since all the biggest games aren't dropping on PC? First we miss out on Bloodborne, the Game of the Generation, then we get c'ucked out of all the good games in 2016. It just isn't fucking fair bros...
PC isn't getting Uncharted 4, Persona 5, Star Ocean 5, Ni No Kuni 2, Scalebound, Kingdom Hearts 3, Gravity Rush 2, Dreams, GT Sport, Crackdown, Quantum Break, Gears 4, Ratchet & Clank Redux, Horizon Zero Dawn, The Last Guardian, Rime, WiLD, Ni-Oh, Yakuza 0, Nier Automata, and more.
Why the fuck is this happening, why have devs betrayed us...
I mean our most hyped game is Dragon's Dogma, a remaster of a 4 year old game. This shit just isn't fucking fair.. Don't tell me I'll have to buy a fucking PS4...
>>321673857
What? What the fuck is wrong with you? What are you even trying to say?
god I hate this shithole of a board so much?
>>321674504
> there has never been a comunist country EVER
Well, only communists know it.
>>321674620
>Ps4 is basically a PC
with none of the abilities of a PC
>>321674504
>le never had true communism meme
holy fuck you really are commie scum. KYS my man
>>321669273
He's openly dating a tranny?
Good for him, good for him.
>>321674641
haha
>>321673156
To be honest, if you have a laptop from the last 3 years or so you can play every noteworthy PC game already. You won't miss out at all, you can play nearly everything.
Growing up I just consoled wars cause I was poor.
Then I graduated highschool and got a job and now I can literally own everything I want.
You could save at least 15 minutes and prevent stress if instead of arguing about consoles you looked for a job.
The only reason X or Y console is shit is because you're a loser fucking NEET.
>>321668195
By making consoles for gamers who are not (i) niggers, (ii) autistic teenagers and (iii) small children.
Funnily enough, the profitability of the target market of Nintendo is not sustainable in an ever-advancing field of consumer electronics.
Just admit that your parents bought you an N64 instead of a Playstation. Then admit that you are still asspained about it to this very day.
Admitting it is the first part of the healing process.
>>321674641
>PC bros, I'm fucking scared
You're neither a PC bro nor are you scared. Fuck off.
>>321674687
>with none of the abilities of a PC
Stop eating old paint chips for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
>>321668195
Germany here. In my circle of friends, PS4 is popular because of how broken PC versions of games are.
>>321674684
And said communists would be?
>>321674641
Devs haven't betrayed PC. It's just that PC is the conduit for LoL, CS:GO and Hearthstone.
>>321674641
nice pasta
>>321674859
>Stop eating old paint chips for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
the PS4 can't do anything a PC do, just to name a few things. It can't play games at different settings and resolutions. You can't use multiple screens on a PS4. You don't have the multimedia abilities of any PC. You can't run a server off a PC even virtual ones. You have no customization capabilities of a PC at all
>>321674607
Don't get a shill console.
>>321674712
Well, there really wasn't communism like Marx wrote. It's utopia.
>>321674607
you can get a 500 dollar PC that has better performance than the PS4 in every single way and has more games
>>321668976
When your entire marketing campaign is "We're not Xbox" is what gets you rolling in dough, you know that this is a shitty console generation.
>>321674789
>The only reason X or Y console is shit is because you're a loser fucking NEET.
Another ebin but retarded meme. Some of us understand how network effects and capital amortization dev-side work. Some of us have friends as well.
>>321674581
Well exactly. Nintendo is adamant about creating new ideas but Microsoft surely won't try it again with their consoles. Whether the ideas are good or not is subjective.
There's nothing wrong with software development. It is possible to have both.
they don't do anything
Nintendo and Microsoft's marketing campaigns do it for them
>>321669189
Everything except xboner. I see no reason to get one, even less after I got shafted with the 360.
>>321675059
Communism is incompatible with human nature. Capitalism isn't perfect, but it's sure as fuck better than Communism. Humans by nature are always striving for more.
Just off yourself, you're clearly not human.
>>321675267
I see no reason to buy a console at all
I mean paying for otherwise free online is the jewiest thing you can possibly do
>>321674504
>there has never been a comunist country EVER
The doctrine of communism is basically to revolt against the goyim and round up the top 10% of most intelligent people and genocide them. Much like the talmud concept of killing the best of goys like crushing the head of a snake.
If you look at the countries which communism infected, you can clearly see hundreds of millions of goyim being genocided.
Looks like they DID have communism.
>>321673442
I'm not disappointed by it except the region lock.
So many jap games blocked
Still jumping the ship after seeing my favourite game drowning and having tasted a bit of the games thanks to the Vita.
Sony has the better console and the better games.
That's it. Case closed.
>>321675137
Yeah, a $500 PC has a name, it's called a "laptop." It would maybe be good for browsing the web and typing word docs, but not playing videogames.
If you want to play games you'll need to throw down $3000+ and spend weeks researching and building a fucking gaming rig.
>>321675281
True, it's incompatible because to achieve it would mean we'd have risen above the human status, where greed had no meaning
>>321668415
nah more like yuropoors only like to kick balls around and play video games where they kick balls
Xbone has legions of shrieking xbox live 12 year old cod players in the US. I don't see many of them in europe, at least in my country, they play CS GO or TF2 on PCs instead. Without them, praystashon has the upper hand.
>>321675395
this desu desu senpai
>>321675405
>Yeah, a $500 PC has a name, it's called a "laptop." It would maybe be good for browsing the web and typing word docs, but not playing videogames.
Its not a laptop, its a full fledged mini-atx build that uses a 750ti which plays games superior to consoles
>>321674186
This exactly, people like to thin that because multiplats are on other platforms it cancels them out, then are all surprised when thats not the case.
The PS4 released in the most perfect storm possible:
-Playstation had gained a lot of good will from ps3, the 360 had its redring problems and in their last few years ps3 was getting way more exclusives then the 360
-PS4 was revealed to be the more powerful console of the 2 and even none tech people were able to figure out from others that the ps4 was a straight upgrade on the xbone hardware, even if they couldn't gather how big or small that margin was.
-PS4 released cheaper
-PS4 just plain LOOKS better design wise
-Sony backed indies while MS was planning to pretty much dump em
-And finally MS shot themselves in the foot with their tv, tv, tv, tv, always online first conference, didn't help that that twitter guy then went on to give people shit about it who didn't like it.
In classic Playstation fashion the ps4 is slow off the mark to get exclusives, but from the ones we know, both third and first party, western and eastern, I would say the ps4 has the better line up.
Even in regards to shit that will b on only 1 console and pc, ps4 has the more interesting titles.
>>321668195
Why muslims love the PS brand so much?
The most important time to support both AAA and b-level developers is right now, many studios are simply going under or barely standing as the collective interest in gaming slowly winds to a halt and shifts to cheaper and less sustainable platforms like mobile & PC. The PS2 had the best library of all time and it is because it had the biggest install base in gaming history.
The bottom line is, if you have enjoyed many of the franchises consoles have brought to life over the years and care for console games and developers who themselves are reaching out to Sony to develop new games. If you will ultimately play and enjoy those games then join the installbase, drop the extremeist pro-consumer bias against muh 'corporate practice' you've developed and realize that the more of you there are, the more games everybody gets including PC. Be apart of what you were once apart of, console gaming because it is ultimately about gaming.
If you care about gaming, stop nickel and diming developers for their final product if they don't have the support to get their projects off their feet in the first place, join front and support them. Indie developers will never replace them.
>>321675504
come on man, why you gotta be stupid?
>>321675327
>Paying for online
I don't. I see them as single player machines. I do get to play MP because a friend with PS+ let me set my PS4 as his main console, so I get all of his stuff.
Actually, I only bought the console and nothing else, because he has digital games. I got like 5 or 6 games for free basically.
>>321671741
What are all these games in that picture?
>>321675504
Well, until the $13 power supply burns the motherboard to a crisp.
>>321675405
Yes but you get basically every game, from AAA to indie, customization, specs and the ability to create your own games and play them.
>>321674410
Let's make it easier for you to understand then.
MS lost money with every console they made yet their losses are irrelevant compared to the global profits of the company.
Sony is very dependant on how well SCE is doing, they can't afford even one failure.
So yes, all it'd take for MS to gain a monopoly is to win in the next generation for instance.
>>321675405
>It would maybe be good for browsing the web and typing word docs, but not playing videogames
I'm rotating between Stalker, VTMB, Hotline Miami and Cities Skylines right now on my shitty Acer with integrated graphics. It runs them all like cake, building a rig is the meme, not PC gaming in general.
>>321674574
You can't outperform games you don't get and if you honestly care more about a games performance than even getting software on your platform you're a pleb
>>321675712
You forget that most people are retards. I've seen people use a hammer to put in their RAM. A fucking hammer.
>>321675685
>>321675656
http://pcpartpicker.com/b/9Wpbt6
These are all reliable parts.
>>321674574
/thread
The funny thing is, a real /v/irgin would think " fuck why did they put such shitty hardware into these shitboxes this time around?
Pseudo /v/irgins post shitty console wars pasta instead.
neo/v/ is not a meme.
>>321672207
>PC wins by default
It won't as long as console exclusives and hacking exist
Also, for most publishers PC is the afterthought, thus all the shit ports.
Honestly, if you're into vidya, you have to be an idort, otherwise you'll just remain a salty nigger
>>321675845
You just named four games that are either indie or old as shit. congrats for further proving my point
>>321675882
come on man, why are you doing this?
>>321671171
especially with all that censorship, hell yeah im done with them, on top of that, there are better games on other systems
>>321675940
because retards think you gotta blow 1000 dollars to get a system that beats a console which is 100% false
