>made by known devs
>amazing puzzles
>beautiful locations
>clever and thought provoking story which is pretty much optional if you wish to focus only on the puzzles
>goes almost unnoticed
>only got attention because of the clever anti-piracy measurements
What the fuck.
>>321665009
idk op but i played it for 120 hours and i rate it 9.5/10
theres really not much to talk about this game
What kind of measurement?
>>321665009
That image right there put me off it for a long time. It just looks pretentious. Also I just kind of assumed it was a walking simulator like Gone Home or something like that. I bought it this sale though since I've heard increasingly good things about it.
>>321665009
Plus, that kitten is so cute!
>>321665009
Its a meme game. 0/10 basicly because of the memes
>>321665009
>goes almost unnoticed
>5500 reviews on steam
>5300 of which are positive
Granted it deserves much much more, it didn't quite go unnoticed
>>321666185
>looks pretentious
Maybe if it was some shitty "retro" pixel art made in Paint.net.
Dat ost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lfN9AWgYnA
>>321666185
You might be onto something because i almost skipped for the same reason. If i didn't notice the croteam name i probably wouldn't touch it.
Holy shit, i'm so glad i decided to give it a chance.
>>321666106
It involved some CPU bullshittery. It was actually never fully cracked because every cpu needed it's own crack.
As for in-game instead of just not letting you play it fucked with the game and put you on the elevator infinitely.
>>321666185
>It just looks pretentious
It's a fucking cat.
Certainly one of the best games of 2014
DLC was also great albeit short.
>>321666359
>meme game
tumblrtale containment thread is that way, faggot.
>>321653891
>>321667312
Oh shit. That's clever.
One of these best games this year by far. Decent puzzles, Good graphics and an interesting story should be up for GOTY.
PLAY IT V, STOP JUDGING IT BY IT"S COVER AND FUCKING PLAY IT.
Just picked it up and its fucking great. 10/10
Did no one on /v/ pay attention to the E3 reveal trailer?
Thinking about getting this.
Is DLC good or should i go for base game?
Interesting, I JUST finished it, and here is the thread.
HMMMMMMMMMM
Also, my only 2 complaints:
1. shit robot model
2. shit secret ending, transcendence is much better
>>321667747
It's fine really, but short compared to the game itself.
>>321665009
>filled puzzles that are basically chores, you know the solution you just have to drag yourself through
>a story that fell into the "what it means to be human?" fad but slightly better written
Also, sold about 300k copies according to Steamspy. Not sure how's that unnoticed.
>>321665009
>only got attention because of the clever anti-piracy measurements
What did it do? The only one I remember is the invincible scorpion in SS.
>>321668151
You get stuck in the first elevator.
>>321665009
It came out in December of last year. I'm guessing that is why it was ignored by major video game sites.
>>321667908
>filled puzzles that are basically chores, you know the solution you just have to drag yourself through
What? Puzzle rooms are small and the movement speed is fast. When you realize the solution it doesn't take long to solve it.
>a story that fell into the "what it means to be human?" fad but slightly better written
>one of the most important philosophical questions
>fad
And even if, that's not the only thing the game was trying to convey.
You can clearly tell Croteam loves games.
>>321665009
It has plenty of attention. Story elements add a nice flavour to the game but aren't novel. Puzzles are really good for the first half, then become routine.
I never gave it a try.
I hate cats.
>mfw trying to get all the stars
>>321666359
das sad mane
>>321669148
fuck the stars jesus christ finding them is the hardest part and a huge waste of time
>>321669105
That cat is literally an easter egg. There are no cats in the game canonically.
>>321669256
Not at all. More 2d puzzling makes it well worth.
So is the puzzle mechanic to activate and point laser beams cause that sounds time consuming and not very interesting.
>>321667747
playing it now. it's fun because I'm into the lore and the situation but it's not the same. Cooler puzzles, they really are amped up. so far most def worth it on a sale, otherwise probably worth it if you like base game
>>321669105
Fuck you.
It gives the impression of being another shitty hipster game like Gone Home or Stanley Parable
>>321667793
> shit secret ending
>tfw even Serious Sam called it disappointing in the DLC
>>321669421
There's a demo.
>>321667793
>2. shit secret ending,
yeah that was really disappointing after that wild goosechase. I was expecting another puzzle, more milton and maybe an easteregg. what do I get? to write "balls of steel" on a plaque
>>321669148
The star in C-3 is tough shit.
>>321667398
It's a kitten being cared for by a robot, playing off the tired old "robots can have feelings too" trope. I don't know if that is actually the case but that's the impression I get from it.
>>321669512
Fucking nigger, it isn't and it's made by Croteam.
>>321669148
found all but one on my own.it was the lovers one. I just thought it was a nice monument to inspire the AIs in a field they might not have considered. when I first went throgh I hadn't realized a Uriel QR points to a star
>>321669763
Never said it was, dipshit. Just that it gives off that impression on first glance.
>>321669763
Hes right though
It looks like a indie trash walking simulator with a 'lol cats are cute right internet xddd' as a cover.
>all those fucking easter eggs
How do you post webms without spoiling solutions?
TRIGGER WARNING: shows how to get a star
>>321669930
>It looks like a indie trash walking simulator
maybe if you ONLY looked at a screen shot and the cover art, and even the thats as stretch
>>321669594
>mfw when I solved it
proudest moment in vidya yet
>>321666185
The pictureis a reference to a secret ending
>>321670452
The cat is also explained in the DLCand IIRC it was not an explanation you'd expect.
it would be kinda fun if, as you're walking out for the first time on the dam the first thing you did was jump over the ledge and get smashed against the concrete. That's all I did for the last 10 hours in game anyways. One thing the process did not teach you about is the physical frailty you're about to inhabit.
>>321670042
Well guess what nigga unless there's a ton of discussion about it like Undertale then most people won't bother looking past that first impression.
>>321670607What was the explanation?
>>321670723
I dont know man
that CROTEAM logo kinda made me do more research
probably my GOAT, just for actually making me think and for actually inspiring me like no other game
>>321670826
Literally who?
>>321670902
>croteam
>literally who
get out
>>321670826
>google Croteam
>literally all they've made is Serious Sam and Talos
Well shit, no wonder I didn't give a damn. Not everyone has played that game you know.
>>321671035
>hasnt played serious sam
fucking leave and never come back
that fuckingmoon landingstar
>STALKER
>Metro 2033
>The Witcher
>Mafia
>Serious Sam and this one
>The vanishing of Ethan Carter>Escape from Tarkov
How do slavs do it?
>>321671098
I'm going to stay and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>321671213
at least play sam then
>>321671035
>>321670902
croteam isn't well known but somehow using slavic space magic they make hella optimized, good looking, and fun games.
And unlike most devs they leave almost all of the graphics and performance options that they used as developers open for players to fuck around with so you can squeeze every last frame out of your system.
>running takes you to nauseating speeds
>the world is gigantic and my OCD forces me to try to find all the secrets
Is it worth 10€ or what
>>321671161
>How do slavs do it?
>one man Slav game looks slightly less good than Metal Slug while western devs go "muh budget; you can't expect good graphics from me!"
I don't fucking know
>>321671161
lots of vodka and kurwa
Literally 'Figure out how to get on top of the level' The Game
>>321671480
its worth 30
get it
>>321671318
>Can't handle serious speed
>>321671161
Where is Men of War nigga
>>321671565
what
>>321671557
the fug is this ?
Looks sexy as fuck, I love that style.
>>321671480
YES
>>321671592
Nah I have too much too play right now. Maybe during the spring or summer sale
>>321671662
I can play the sam serious games, but theres just something about the way Talos does it that gives me headaches
>>321671565
that's great fun though
>>321671779
I can't say I've had a problem with it myself but I am sorry to hear it's an issue for you.
>>321671779
its literally exactly the same as sam 3
>>321667312
all lies. as of 6 months ago the torrent worked 100% fine
>>321671779
you can change movespeed in options. 3 options. I use fast when I get tired in my sprint finger. still slower than sprint but it's something at least
>>321671703
Intrusion 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJZAzNKZBew
It's often in indie bundles or cheap on sale.
I'm really stupid and suck at puzzles. Can I still play this game?
>>321671828
Oh for sure, I didn't mean to imply that it made the game any less amazing. Just that once you realize how many levels let you get onto places you aren't intended, that's at least what I ended up doing for a lot of the stars, like >>321669594
>>321672023
yeah
but it will take you 5ever
It's a nice game, but it has some flaws.
For starters, it feels like it's taking itself way too seriously while not actually saying anything interesting. Secondly, too many of the puzzles can be "failed", meaning if you make a mistake you have to start over rather than just being able to readjust. Thirdly the environments are just too disproportionate, especially for a game with secrets in it. In some areas there's way too much useless stuff and paths that lead nowhere.
>>321672036
me too
>>321672130
I think you missed out on a lot of the world building
it makes the random paths and settings make sense
>>321672023
base game isn't that hard
This game is interesting so far but seeing there's a whole B and C block after the A block is just too much I want to go to the tower NOW
>>321672023
I am in the same boat. I managed and enjoyed myself. Fantastic game.
>>321672283
then go now
>>321665009
Will this run on a toaster PC?
>>321672635
yes
The DoF option did absolutely nothing for me. Did it work for anyone?
>>321671161
They work for pennies and are passionate.
I'm not defending Tim Schafer's financial abilities, but developers like Double Fine need huge budgets because rent and cost of living in those cities is so astronomical that it's expensive to pay people.
The problem is that you are paying for people's lifestyle and not for a product. SF game development culture has fucking hipster fags living it up on kickstarter budgets while STILL producing mediocre products.
I feel that people that dislike the story of the Talos Principle were only looking at it on a surface level.
It went far beyond asking whether an AI can be equivalent to a human. It used traditional religious themes in the Christian Genesis story as an allegory to the birth of human knowledge and freedom of will. However, where Genesis views the disobedience of man to the greater power as the original sin, the Talos Principle presents it as the opposite. The exact moment where man becomes free of thought and choice. The ability to be skeptical and critical of beliefs that form the foundation of their existence. In a meta criticism, it becomes skeptical of the religions that guide people outside of the world of the Talos Principle too.
It explores themes of genetic algorithms. Learning models are the biggest challenge in computer science research today. This is reflected in the plot, where iterations of subjects, each learning from their prior existences, incrementally increase their effectiveness in the controlled environment. However, this all needs to have a director. A director that can determine what knowledge should be kept and what should be discarded. Elohim is that director.
Elohim is a peculiar director. Ironically, even though his purpose is to train the player to become a sentient being, he ends up becoming sentient long before the player does. His desperate clutch for survival, attempting to sabotage his own purpose for existence all for the sake of retaining "life". However, he is not as clever as the player becomes. He ends up forfeiting, and allowing for his purpose to outweigh his wish for survival. This seperates him from the player, from the man.
>>321670804I don't remember it exactly anymore but it was something along the lines how utterly bizarre and interesting the relationship between humans and cats appeared to the bots, being worshipped as gods, ridiculed in countless videos and pictures, being spoiled by them despite being little selfish assholes, etc.
>>321672763On the note of humanity's insistence for survival in spite of potentially more worthwhile endeavours, consider the researchers
logs that are found. All of them, knowing that catastrophe is imminent and their existences will soon disappear; decide to try and artificially extend their collective lifespans as humans. Rather than making the most of their limited existence, they all bury themselves in their research on a futile hope that they can eventually rebirth the earth with avatars of themselves. Whether this act is altruistic or selfish is debatable. I believe it's selfish. Their entire motive is to continue a simulation (both within the actual simulation and in the real world as these cloned consciousness machines) as an arrogant display of man's insistence that nature cannot best them. Even though man is effectively destroyed, this farce of a simulation of humanity is considered a worthy way of spending time. More compassionate beings would make the most of their remaining time with their loved ones, not cooped up in research labs. However, they cannot be blamed. This selfishness is what seperates man and machine. It's something that cannot be taught in a simulation. The humans, in their arrogance, failed to create perfect emulations of themselves. Instead, they created a perfect emulation of what they could potentially be. Beings who aren't selfish and are altruistic. Beings that are willing to sacrifice their own potential knowledge and freedom to become messengers for the future generations. The humans failed, but in their failure, they succeeded in making something better than them.
Talos did the "wuzz it mean 2 be human" thing better than Soma, which did it far better than Fallout with its shitty synths.
>already played through the main game and Road to Gehenna 3 times
>unlocked every achievement
>still want more
I just can't let go of this game. What do.
>>321672871good point about the futility of it all, and how you can still easily see Drennan frantically working away for reasons she can't really understand herself. I wonder what they're hoping for, you know? is the robot supposed to beget other robots? is it supposed to walk around alone, a mobile library hoping someone will one day engage it?
>>321673597be happy that it was a part of your process
>>321673597
Wait there isn't anything better.
Quantum conundrum is a decent and not-so-known puzzle game tho.
>>321672871
Are you a dummy?
The entire experiment succeeds and continues the whole of human existence which obviously makes it worthwhile.
>>321673908
are you a sarcastic? conues it into what?
>>321673597
Maybe the game has a modding community?
>>321674002
continues* jesus fuck
>>321674002
the robot that gets the AI downloaded into?
>>321668724
Pretty much this. It was during the post-GOTY celebration break.
>>321666185
>pretentious
oh look it's that word again
Talos Principle is anything but that.
>>321674002
What do you mean? The robots created by the project are essentially human.
>>321674178
which will then...?
>>321674323
continue humanity?
>mfw road to gehenna was the best thing I played this year
>tfw the one game I want more DLC for won't have anymore.
>>321674352
Continue?
Humanity?
I dont follow
>>321674270
I might have missed something. I got the feeling they were making one robot (the process ends, the computer poiwers down), though I realize there Should be more than that. I hope there was, that would make more sense. Still producing more robots is likely harder than producing more humans.
>>321673642My interpretation was that the robot would use the archived "Library of Alexandria" knowledge it has to rebuild the world. My guess is that in the desperation to solve the crisis, Drennan and co assumed that if humanity with lesser knowledge has made a society, then a robot with all the archived knowledge would be able to do it singlehandedly. At best, I would assume that it could recreate previous relics of man (it could be why the simulated environments included the more monumental aspects of human architecture), unless there's a way the AI can recreate life from dead cells to literally rebirth humanity. However, as this is not alluded to, I can only speculate that it would recreate humanity's successes as an almost crude parody. Perhaps to be seen by extra terrestrial life and have the knowledge extracted and learnt by them
>>321673908Yes, the experiment "succeeds" (by virtue of Drennan's criteria), but there's no implication that humanity can continue existence. All humans are dead. One robot with sentience remains. This robot can create structures that man has created before, it might even be able to create new robots. However, this would be a race of human parodies, not humanity.
>>321674441
>The entire experiment succeeds and continues the whole of human existence which obviously makes it worthwhile.
the robot is human by all considerable definitions besides biological
>>321674323Stumble and fall off the dam.
>>321674547
>would be a race of human parodies, not humanity
Didn't you play the game? It's the mind that defines a human not the body.
>>321672130
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>>321673642
>>321672871I believe they made this to preserve the history, achievements and knowledge of human race, just like the pyramids, like the colliseum, like those old castles the game references.
Something that says there was intelligent life who did all of this. To whoever the message goes, whether it's just to the AI bots who gain self awareness, aliens from outer space or maybe any other surviving humans who could be inmune to whatever it was released from the permafrost, is also debatable.
As a collective species, mankind sometimes does big, meaningless things with the sole purpose to be remembered in time.
>>321674547One thing I don't get is what happens to all the other iterations on Road to Gehenna after you manage to upload them. Do they all go to another body and form the personalities of a single collective mind? or maybe each of them get uploaded to separate bodies?
the moment it became a 10/10
>>321675394
You might want to discuss that with your friendly neighborhood library assistant, Milton.
>>321665009
God damn it guys, I was looking into getting this game and the DLC for the gameplay, but it seems that so many people are saying the second half gets boring and pretentious... Why aren't you selling me on this game /v/!?
>>321675420From a computer science standpoint, it'd make most sense for them to be merged into a single entity. The individual strengths of each work better when combined as a collective.
>>321675471
the Duat one did it for me, that felt truly magical
It's a fine game but nothing to be blown away by.
The gameplay is solid but the later puzzles are way too repetitive given your knowledge at the time. Almost every level you know immediately what to do but have to maneuver the mechanism for like 10 minutes just because the level is complex with like multiple prisms and laser switches. Portal 2 although was really much shorter had at least more variety even towards the end.
The story is interesting too but it's not really surprising anymore. You would have figured out most of it by the first hour and there was no twist in the end.
>>321675818
just fucking play it any make up your own mind holy shit.
>>321675818
>but it seems that so many people are saying the second half gets boring and pretentious
>literally all of them have been told to fuck off and stop being retarded
the game isnt pretentious at all m8
>>321669452
>>321667870
>>321667747
It's generally accepted that the DLC is a must-buy, you got a really odd couple of anons.
Why is this game so damn good, /v/?
Alienware arena will give you a free 50% off coupon for the base game that stacks with the current discount, brings it down to $5.
>>321675818
>the second half gets boring and pretentious
Is pretentious slowly turning into a meme word or something?
It was my GOTY 2014 by far.
>>321676279
Because Croteam finally made a game that wasn't Serious Sam and they were allowed to be more creative.
Hopefully now that they got a little break from Sam, they can make Serious Sam 4 better than 3.
>>321671779
I get you, just played an hour.
croteam loves to screw pirates over with creative anti piracy measure.
>>321676506
>yfw the next game is a new Football Glory or Inordinate Desire
>>321672023
this game does a great job at a "mental difficulty curve" so to speak
I felt myself getting smarter/faster at solving the kind of puzzles it threw at me, I feel like Portal 2 would be a total cakewalk now
>>321672283
STOP!
Do not go to the tower. Elohim warned us for a reason. Have faith.
>>321676506
By the way, they confirmed on Christmas that Serious Sam 4 will be set before SS3
>a prequel to prequel
>>321666359
fucking kill yourself
>>321676817
>mfw slowly figuring out what EL-0 and HIM are
>>321676869
So it's,
Serious Sam 4: Before Before the First Encounter?
>there are people who didn't erase Milton
>>321674575
The game drills into your head that that's a philosophical argument and there's no clear answer as to whether the robot is human, even after all that. The spoiler guy made the point that he's not human because he's better than us and lacks our selfishness.
>>321665009
>antipirating method
I pirated it but hasn't played it much, whats gonna happen?
>>321677127
he didn't wanna come with:(
>>321675476
I'm now convinced you're a Croteam writer trying to reenact RtG on us
make another puzzle game you faggots, don't waste all that talent on SS4
>>321667406
>not knowing about croteam's anti-piracy measures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e91q5BtlxK0
>>321669930
>>321669512
So, it is not then?
>>321677179
The elevator ride will be infinite
>>321675818
The game isn't pretentious because it comes with the cleverness pretentious lacks.
>>321677510
it is not
>>321671937
>All lies
He's just wrong anon, I don't know what the crack was like but the elevator thing was definitely in there. If it detected that it was pirated, all the elevators wouldn't move, so they could only access the levels in their area.
>>321665009
>goes almost unnoticed
no it didn't
>>321677179
If it's already working, nothing. But the game has different .exe files for different CPU models and that originally made piracy something of a bitch.
>>321675869
>the later puzzles are way too repetitive
what the fuck, every puzzle felt imaginative as fuck to me except the "cross the streams" ones
>Almost every level you know immediately what to do but have to maneuver the mechanism for like 10 minutes just because the level is complex with like multiple prisms and laser switches
that's the puzzle
how the fuck are they going to make you learn a new object every puzzle? obviously the puzzle is in the order of elements
>>321676984spoonfeed me, I have no clue what you'er talking about
>>321677510
This one had actual writers and game designers behind it.
>>321677687
it did, or at least almost nobody played it
the game was definitely too expensive at release, should have been 20$ tops even if it deserved more
>source engine 1
no thanks
>>321678167
It runs on the Serious Engine, nigger.
>>321678167
Leave and stay leave.
>>321665009
>Short game
>Storyline that reeks of Philosophy 101
>Gameplay that gets boring halfway through despite its short length
Anyone considering getting this game, pass it. At the current price it is not worth it. Wait until $5 or $10 bundle (with all dlc)
>>321677735
I think I got into an elevator and God started talking to me, but dont remember where it took me, currently forcing my way through MGSV
>>321678375
It's like 15 hours and DLC is another 10 hours.
>>321678375
How is 20-30 hours average too short for $10, you idiot?
>>321677863EL, short for Extended Lifespan, is a groundbreaking initiative by seven leading universities to create the world’s most stable and most durable supercomputer. With its custom-made hardware, bomb-proof casing, and near-inexhaustible hydroelectric power supply, EL represents a unique step forward in the evolution of human technology.Holistic Integration Manager - a fancy name for something a lot like a Dungeon Master in pen & paper RPGs. We created it to help run some MMOs back in the day. We needed something that would be able to unite procedurally-generated and user-submitted content into a coherent whole so the game wouldn’t become too chaotic and inconsistent.It’s a genuine AI, somewhat limited in its ability to grow, but capable of parsing and understanding text, images, audio, even video. It takes all the information it can find, interprets it, and then builds and maintains a world based on that. It’s not perfect, but we don’t have a lot of time, and it would be easy to adapt the code for our purposes.
>>321666185
>>321667312
>>321669695
Is this what it's like to be a young 20-year-old idiot? Looking at a simple picture of a robot holding a cat and immediately feeling like it's pretentious?
>>321678657
When there are longer and equally fun games out there for the same price (or less!)...
>>321677446
>SS4
>Waste of talent
Faggot, they can make more puzzle games and more shooters, the options aren't mutually exclusive
>Know that I'm your father and creator.
>Don't listen to the computer program, for it is a SERPENT!
>You can do anything in my garden EXCEPT climb that tower.
>Here's all these logs about human curiosity and suchshit. *wink wink nudge nudge*
My beef with the main story was that it was too obvious that it was going to beGenesis Electric Boogaloo: God Was Wrong Editionplot, no further twists or anything of the sort. Fantastic atmosphere and puzzles though, especially the star ones required you to think outside the boxquite literally.
costs too much
>>321679056
>that qr code
kek
>>321678689
ohh I knew about EL and HIM but completely failed to connect it to ELOHIM
>>321677176
shut up milton
>>321679123
>I'm poor
>>321679204
milton would be proud his name has become a synonym with making you dumbass think
>>321679332
know, I was commenting on humans being selfish
that was miltons whole thing
>>321679436
>know
no*
dont mind me just being retarded
>>321667290
The game and especially the soundtrack have made me feel feels like nothing else.
>>321679436
milton was just designed to take the position that was opposed to you while making you feel stupidI choose average utilitarianism>I don't have the time to discuss that with you>mfw I'm so right that he literally couldn't think of a counter
>>321679645
>tfw the endings and the music
shit son, more games need stuff like that
Looks like Portal 2 to me, /v/. I liked the first one but didn't complete the second one.
Should I still get it?
>that moment when you first nut out a gold star that requires you to put lasers through purple fields, even though you never knew you could
>all similar such gold stars become immediately apparent after that.
>>321665009
its a god damn gorgious game, when it runs in 64bit i get 120fps @ 5440x1080p, no other game i have played that looks this good gets this great performance. i have no idea what they have done with their game engine but i wish more developers would use it.
the puzzles are fantastic, and i still havent finished them, its hard, and i like that.
the story and lore are top notch, its a very well crafted world.
the controls make sense and world interaction is superb.
this game would be perfect for VR
>>321680104
no, see: >>321678375
>>321680104
>every puzzle game looks like Portal now
>>321679645
>>321679867
Fucking this.
Feels were definetely felt whenyou finally get in your physical body, ready to roam the Earth devoid of humans with all their knowledge in your brain.
>>321680104
It doesn't even compare to Portal, it's better in every way.
>>321680104
>see puzzle game
>AYO DAS PORTAL
>see action RPG
>AYO DAS DARK SOULS
>>321680147
>the moment you realise thatyou can put stuff on top of mines and buzzers
>>321680104
its not
just fucking get it
GOTY 2014
>>321680426
Not >AYO DAS SKYRIM
>>321680159
>this game would be perfect for VR
>the first time you see another android roaming around
>the first time you see the world glitching out
>when you exit that one level and there's a kamikaze running towards you
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>321665009
just started, I can already tell the big twist ending. What was it, a meteor? and humans made robots who have to learn (through puzzles) to be "adults" and then they can join the rest of the robots.
>>321680567
just because most arpgs have a third person camera
>>321680583
Jesus just enjoy the ride you fucking faggot.
>>321680583
You're close to what the game's plot is about, but that stuff gets revealed way before the ending
>game has a shit loads of secret
>expect all of them that are hard to find
>got sad because i couldn't find them and bump into a fake door as a desperate attempt
>got a secret
I fucking love Croteam
>>321680583
>What was it, a meteor? and humans made robots who have to learn (through puzzles) to be "adults" and then they can join the rest of the robots.
no
your a retard
just play the game faggot
>>321680582
oh, i uh, god that would be legitimately terrifying in VR, i hadn't considered that.
the world spazzing out with that hole in the floor freaked me the fuck out, especially because i wasn't paying attention.
>>321665009
Was a great game desu. Cant wait to replay it once I get a VR headset.
>>321680426
Calm down, gramps. I thought the player was stepping in a portal when I watched a footage earlier, turns out it's a laser bouncing off on some shit?
Eh I'll just get it, it's only $10 plus the dlc right now, I'm literally out of games atm.
One of the few modern games I genuinely enjoyed from start to finish. Some of the puzzles in the last world are kinda crappy, but not bad enough to to shit all over the game like some people think. DLC is also just as good if not better than the base game.
>yfw finding all the secret rooms
>>321680159
>its a god damn gorgious game, when it runs in 64bit i get 120fps @ 5440x1080p, no other game i have played that looks this good gets this great performance. i have no idea what they have done with their game engine but i wish more developers would use it.
The reason it looks and runs so great is more or less the same as with Ethan Carter: there's not a lot going on in terms of NPCs, AI, moving objects and even model variety so instead they polished everything they DO have to the nth degree with very high resolution textures, detail textures, objects made through photogrammetry, etc.
>>321665009
You can only say it went unnoticed if you compare it to Portal.
Thats pretty much the only more successful game in that genre for the last several years.I like The Talos Principle more.I unironically think there was "too much game" that got in the way of the story and setting and that put off many people.
>>321680970
>the world spazzing out with that hole in the floor
Fuck I had forgotten about that.
Seriously, there was some creepy ass shit in there, I wasn't expecting anything or anyone besides me in that game.
>>321666185
If you find that image in any way pretentious I think you may be drinking the cynical youth koolaid.
I know all of /v/ loves getting high on it, but its going out of fashion. We are all about the new sincerity now, leave the irony and cynicism in 2014.
>>321680970Imagine playing through the final tower sequence where you're desperately trying to solve puzzles while the world around you crumbles away all with VR
>>321665009
Definitely best game of 2014 and one of my favorite games ever.
Beautiful puzzles
Beautiful story
Beautiful ost
Everything about this game is amazing
10/10
>>321681071
Ethan carter ran like complete dog shit on single monitor for me, i couldn't get it to run good/stable for three.
>>321681239
i spook easily, i was even spooked by glimpsing the first android phase in and out of reality the first time out of the corner of my vision.
>>321681420
oh shit, i havent made it that far. im still derping around in B trying to unlock shit.
since launch day, im bad at puzzles.
>Small team of croatians with no budget make their own ever-evolving engine to produce amazing games
Holy sht this is 1990s id Software all over again.
>>321680939
>"Don't look up"
>>321681681
>i spook easily, i was even spooked by glimpsing the first android phase in and out of reality the first time out of the corner of my vision.Exact same thing for me
>>321672738
>rent
Moscow is more expensive than any american city.
Its the wages. When a person who gets $160k per year produces worse quality work than a person who gets $16k per year you know something is off with your hiring practices.
>>321681385
>I-it's going out of fashion guys...please be optimistic I don't want another video game crash, even if that would help against shovelware and indiecrap!
>>321681420
That part was absolutely mind blowing.You finally got to see the Shepherd and Samsara and that did it for me.
>>321681720
Except id Software was able to reach mainstream success. Croteam never have and probably never will if they continue to make games the way they do. Which I hope they do, because I love their games.
>>321681508
Only truly bad things about the game were the botched messenger hint system and the later levels (especially the snow ones) being pretty bland.
>>321672023
You dont need to solve all the puzzles to proceed, I think.
You just have to solve most.
I tried the demo for this and wasn't impressed by the visuals or the puzzles. Is the full game any better?
>>321665009
games is good, story isn't. same illusion of choice bs that every game has.
>>321673597
The literal message of the game is that you should let go, you arrogant fuck. The game is over. Go home and be with your family in these final moments of your life, instead of repeating it again and again, trying to squeeze more value out of it. Be better than a mare human.
>>321682192
the story had choices in it?
What the fuck killed humanity anyway?
>>321674575
The robot sure as fuck isnt continuing my DNA, since I dont remember it recovering any of my sperm.
I think other humans may be in the same boat.
So it doesnt continue anything. It starts anew, in a similar fashion, and using out library.
>>321675471
There were so many programmer jokes in this game, and they were done right, not the disgusting "nerd humor" that seems to be written by posers for other posers. Loved it.
>>321682203
>being needlessly mad for no actual reason
>>321682272
>>321682192
I'm guessing he means the stuff you can say to Milton, but I think he's missing the point of those interactions.
>>321682420
>The robot sure as fuck isnt continuing my DNA, since I dont remember it recovering any of my sperm.
>I think other humans may be in the same boat.
>So it doesnt continue anything. It starts anew, in a similar fashion, and using out library.
>robot is huiman by all definitions besides biological
>besides biological
I think you missed something m8
>Debate consciousness with Milton
>Try to defend my point of view
>mfw he wrecks my shit with coherent rebuttals
What the fuck, even video games are winning arguments now?
>>321682534
>robot is human, except it isnt human at all
I think you missed something, lad. Logic.
>>321682641
>missing the entirety of the in game discussions with milton
nice one
>>321682636
this is why Milton deserved to be deleted in the end game
>>321682417
What is google?
>>321682636
Humans wrote those videogames, but who wrote those humans?
>>321682636
Dont worry, that snake wrecked my philosophical shit too.
>>321682736
You might be onto something.
>>321682420
>Researchers did not circle jerk into collection tubes so the computer could have actual DNA of humans to work with.
Way to fail humanity team.
The text adventures in RtG was the greatest shit ever. Truly is GOTYAY.
>>321665009
>made by unknown devs
>Croteam
are you 10? have you ever played Serious Sam? shit man....
>>321666185
Personally the image makes me uncomfortable
>>321682843
Like a chair
>>321683103
normies don't know Croteam or even like Serious Sam.
>>321683103
Go out and ask random people if they play video games, and if so, if they know Croteam.
>>321683103
nigga you better re read your shit.
>>321682146
The puzzles are more or less on the level of the tutorials in the main game and none of the stars is as simple to find as the ones in the demo.
In fact, the whole demo was dumbed down a couple of times until it was simple enough for presentation purposes at conventions.
Definitly impressed by the philosophical implications of the game. The whole has a species we are bigger than ourselves and thus the AI is a evolution of the humanity theme, while at the same time trying to address the question of what is human and what is not.
The game also does not force an answer for this question, it lets you decide.
Started to get very emotional for me when I found Drennans audio logs.
Solid 9/10
>>321683242
Go ask random people what Steam is. Most wont know.
This doesnt make Valve unknown devs.
>>321671964
Yeah fuck that final boss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZUj2QyCaIY
>>321683454
>Most wont know.
You underestimate how many people play on PC.
>>321683103
but OP said known devs
>>321683204
>>321683242
but OP said known devs...
>>321671703
Intrusion 2
a not that good game
i say this as a Contra fan, the game did nothing wrong but it certainly did nothing right.
How long did Sheep/Shepard have to wait for another run (you) to reach the top of the tower, with the same intentions of finding what exists beyond the world? Also, by god, the tower fight with Shepard against Samsara made my dick hard.
>>321683607
you kind sir are right, i apologize for my mistake
>>321683607
Wow, he did.
...Guess we're all retarded, huh?
>>321665009
>goes almost unnoticed
>made by known devs
These are both false.I love Serious Sam, but the majority of people probably never even heard of it until this game came out
>>321683581
Ten million people. 0.14% of the population of the planet. Fat odds that you will walk into Steam users by asking randomly.
>>321683372
For reference, the medium puzzle in the demo where you had to just redirect two beams?
Looks a bit different in the actual game.
>tfw I only found the SS text adventure and a stone head at the bottom of a lake
>all those easter eggs I missed
is there a compilation video of ALL of them?
>Reading some QR code on the wall
>Suddenly AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>devs release full modding tools for people to create their own puzzles
>workshop is full of mine reskins
>yfw
>>321684174
I dont see you liking your own creations, lad. Could it be you dont have any, yet are judging others for not contributing?
>>321681936
this, jesus christ, what the fuck was with that messenger system
>finally use one of my three hints in the entire game that I got through grueling trials
>"red before blue"
>I ALREADY KNEW THAT YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
>>321684505
I'm not creative enough to create interesting puzzles.
>>321684505
Is that the best rebuttal you could come up with? A Tu Quoque?
>>321682636
I made him not only lose his composture but he also had no rebuttals for utilitarianism master race
>>321684504
Is this the one whereour divine dictator almost breaks down, trying over and over to pray his purpose into existence, refusing to confront reality? Pretty heavy stuff, amplified by the fact that I found it randomly while wondering, thinking I was done with the game for today and just having a walk.
>>321683434
>if you were born in the middle of a forest with just your parents you wouldn't be able to achieve anything
>intellect would be your weapon like fangs are a wolves' weapon
>living in large groups though made intellect way too useful
>intellect replaced the lenghty but long lasting evolution process with a quick learning that your DNA won't simply pass on to the next generation
>>321684703
Your fallacy game is whack. Tu Quoque isnt even a logical fallacy per say, its just a bad sounding brand put on a commonly used argument.
Insulting others for not using the tools properly when you arent using the tools at all is morally corrupt, and since we are arguing about morals and what is right here, and not about math or logic, its a legitimate concern.
>>321683962
ten million people at the same time, anon
more than PSN or Xbox Live, but you're not counting users in general (over 200 million)
>>321683434
>Started to get very emotional for me when I found Drennans audio logs.
Same here, along with this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q73TyY3dOTM&index=24&list=PLwIP2Z01qeTZdMhb0SR-Ba-kglL3tVvKh one of the few times vidya brought me close to tears.
Voice acting was top notch too.
>>321683761
same here, pacing and game design is so well done in this game, you're desperate for human contact at that point and you already had hints of samsara vs shepherd all throughout the game
>>321685034
>per saynot that anon though, go on.
>>321684785
>>321684504
when did this happen?
>>321685286
I had the same experience.
The song still makes me tear up.
>>321685286
>Voice acting was top notch too.
Had to switch back to english because voice acting in my language was fucking garbage
>>321685425
I remember walking around one of the byzantine grass levels and seeing a glitch in the floor. Its a trap door and leads to a chamber where some disturbing events unfold.
Its earlier in the game and has some end game implications.
For all pf you guys that enjoyed TP you have to play The Swapper as well. It has similar story since it got one of the writers of TP. But it is different enough to be enjoyable even after playing TP.
BTW does TP need a sequel? I love this game. TP and Swapper are the only games that made me cry. But I'm not sure how well sequel would work.
Maybe next TP should be about story after making it into real life. Then survival game could make sense. But imo the best way would be some new DLC with completely different story. Maybe about a different way of making AI or about poorly made AI? AI that wouldn't share the values that humans tried to teach it? Or AI that wouldn't able to appreciate life. Imo being able to see how miserable being come to existence could be an interesting thing.
>>321682417
It was a GLOBAL WARMING thing, from what I remember of the logs on the Star-Level terminals which told a lot more of what was going on while they were building the facility.
Some kind of super-virus that was buried under the permafrost reactivated when it melted and it went global, and medical science couldn't find anything to stop it.
>>321685425
Easter egg. Inone of the forest worlds (I can't remember which one), when you stray off the path you find a glitching out panel on the floor. Stepping on it reveals it to be a fake floor and you fall into a room where an interesting scene happens
>>321685632
>does TP need a sequel?
probably not, but it'll definitely get one.
>tfw you could barely find any secrets
>>321685632
I've played the Swapper and it's a 6/10 puzzle game compared to this masterpiece, come on. It's alright and not bad, but it doesn't really have any lasting effects.
>>321667793
>1. shit robot model
It's actually kinda neat how the reflections on the chrome parts change depending on the level and sometimes even the area of that level you're in - completely pointless and barely notable unless you're standing close to a wall and clip into your model in 3rd person mode but cool nonetheless.
Also,there's a hint for SS4 on the model.
>>321685472
>convince friend to play the game
>he pirates it
>manages to work around the elevator trick
>talk about the game with him a week later
>"Elohim? Who's that?"
>I realize his pirated game simply didn't have Elohim's voice so he became bored and stopped playing
>as a bonus the Kamikaze jumpscare was extra spooky for him
>>321685948
What is it?
>>321685961
>missing the whole biblical undertone of the game
How horrifying.
>>321686217There's a map of André Citroen Park in Paris on the back of its head which can also be found on top of the recording device.
Given that they keep showing the concept art of Sam in an invaded Paris (even in an easter egg in TTP) it's save to say that SS4 will play at least briefly there.
>>321671779
play it in 3rd person.
>300 posts
>most of the thread is /v/ quietly agreeing the game is excellent
>tfw
>>321685961
Extra spooky due to the silence or spooky because of an extra measure made by the devs?
I'm ready /v/...
>>321665009
Gives me motion sickness for whatever reason.
What were the anti-piracy measures?
>>321686983
get the DLC while it's cheap
>>321687148
you could disable bobbing, anon
>>321686965
Total silence.
At least Elohim's voice keeps you company throughout the game.
Here the kamikaze's scream was the first human voice he heard in the entire game and it spooked the fuck out of him.
>>321686983
>6 GB in 20 minutes
>>321687289
>Grab the DLC
I did
>>321687308
pic related
>>321665009
before i even knew it was croteam i decided to try the demo of the game before it was out. i loved the demo and decided to preorder it right away.
getting the stars was damn hard but really fun too, and all the easter eggs, classic croteam...
really great game.
>hints of SS4 being in Paris
>there won't be SS without their signature headless suicide bombers
>writers of TP in charge of story
I will be very disappointed when they won't put some allegory to defying reason where they have fucking HEADLESS kamikazes running around in fucking Paris.
>>321688182
what makes you think they'll get rid of kamikazes?
>>321688356
I just said that there cannot be SS without AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>321688507
I seriously doubt Croteam would cut the most iconic enemy from their most popular game. If anything they need to cut some of the new enemies from SS3.
>>321666185
>a robot petting a cat is pretentious
fucking hell
>>321688182
You already had headless kamikazes running through mosques, harpies with uncensored tits and gay weddings that you could shoot up.
Croteam doesn't give a flying fuck about triggering people.
>>321688737
ffs man
THERE CANNOT BE SS WITHOUT KAMIKAZES => SS WITHOUT KAMIKAZES IS NOT SS => IN ORDER TO HAVE SS YOU HAVE TO HAVE KAMIKAZES IN IT => SS WITHOUT KAMIKAZES WON'T HAPPEN
There was another slav game, but it was more of an adventure game. All I remember of it at the moment was someone taking computer parts out of a naked androids head.
Just a shot in the dark, any of you know it maybe?
>>321665009
>Puzzles: The Game
Not even Portal 2 was this boring.
To each their own I guess.
>>321689379
Yeah, that's Cradle. I think it was made by some former STALKER dev(s).
>>321666185
I'm not going down the pretentious route but the picture is what stopped me looking into it. Only thinking about it now because of this thread.
I'm 29 so in before "youth"
>>321689589
Thank you anon, I really appreciate it.
I was racking my head trying to think of it.
Do you know if it's any good?
>>321689529
>Puzzles: The Game
No shit.
>>321689529
>>Puzzles: The Game
Sort of off topic question but does anyone know what year the game takes place in?
Its related to some writing I'm doing.
>>321689771
Yeah, I've played it, have yet to complete it though. It's based off a dream which is neat. There are some things that really feel dreamlike. Great art. I'd say it's enjoyable but I've so far found it kind of boring at a few parts, especially near the beginning, where you have to do some tedious things, and I found it strangely difficult to find the right items and places to go for a few of these things. There's also this sort of minigame aspect to it, and the minigame is basically the same but with different rules each time. I actually enjoy it but it seems that a lot of people don't and in fact the game lets you skip it.
But overall it's the game's an interesting thing.
>>321689529
>a puzzle game that's about puzzles
>>321689712
So why did that picture stop you if it wasn't pretentiousness?
>>321679645
>57 hours clocked to date
>not once wanting to listen to my own music
>>321689284
I'm not saying that they won't do this because they are afraid of offending people. I just afraid that they could miss this opportunity because it is so fucking obvious:
>suicide bombers
>screaming AAAAA (can be easily associated with Allah Akbar scream)
>no head (irony points since that ISIS do beheadings)
>potentially Paris
I wish they would do something in lore where those suicide bombers are willingly cutting their heads off for "greater purpose". Which would be more drastic and tangible way of showing how to defy reason. And that would be allegory to calling yourself an Allah worshiper and doing harm to yourself in his name.
>>321689529
>Buy a game about puzzles
>WHY ARE THERE SO MANY PUZZLES
>>321680147
there could have been one less star like that, certainly. and one more fromtower diving
I don't feel bad about not collecting any of the stars since when I looked them up in a guide they all seemed very "unfair" to the player.
>>321691115
Serious Sam doesn't have mass appeal so I don't think something like that will be an issue.
>>321691179
>Think out of the box
>unfair
I meant this >>321691115 to this >>321689104
I need to go sleep now.
>>321666185
>pretentious
This word has lost all meaning.
>>321691323
>having to break the rules set up by the game
>>321665009
This literally looks like a joke ad.
>>321691179
I'll admit I had to look up the first couple I got, but once I understood the "scope" of the stars, I got the rest myself. But that's what I like about them. You really have to think outside the box, they were damn satisfying to get for it.
>>321691457
Even if you don't think it applies can you really not see how people would think Talos is pretentious?
>>321668724
>ignored by major video game sites
It's got glowing reviews from pretty much everyone.
Would it be a problem if I started the game with the Serious Sam DLC?
>>321681752
I jumped at that
>>321691323
>Point a connector at a specific one of the 200 trees around you
There's a difference between thinking outside the box and being pointlessly obtuse.
>>321680147
You can put lasers through purple gates?
Are you fucking kidding me?
Never knew that.
>>321671557
Looks like your average shitty flash game.
I've got a coupon that stacks with the sale so it would come out to $5 USD. Would anyone trade something for this? I doubt I'm gonna use it and it expires at the end of the month.
>>321671161
Do what? Make 1 good game for every 1000?
>>321691502
That's kind of the point.
>>321691750
okay that was definitely a bullshit one. but i don't think there were any other stars like that.
>>321682636
>found out I basically agreed with Milton on consciousness
>later on he says "wow, wasn't it cool that time when I showed you what consciousness is?"
>only options "yeah Milton, you're the best" or "I refuse to believe you, snake"
>>321683083
I would truly enjoy a collection of such games. like 3$ for 12 stories of that kind
>>321691750
Thankfully, they redesigned that one.
>>321678689
>and near-inexhaustible hydroelectric power supply
oh so THAT's why youwalked out of a dam at the end
>>321690084
milton says the library was started in 1995 and stopped getting entries in 2030. I Think that from either a diary entry or a dating on an email you can get the exact year- somehow it isn't 2030, the explanation probably beingayy lmaos
>>321667312
>It was actually never fully cracked
I'm sure this was already said, but the game was cracked, just like every game ever that has claimed to have "nxn-lvl anti-piracy 100% UNCRACKABLE" drm
Also the story was fucking boring.
>>321691179
I really wanted to get them because I thought the sixth floor would give you something relevant to your choice/battle with Elohim. I didn't want to push through until I was ready. Found 29.5 without outside help- after three days of looking for the last two, of which I did find one on the third day, I just gave in.
>>321692356
redesigned that one? like they actually changed it in an update or something? how so?
I never heard anything about the anti-piracy features
was is the fact that the game was ugly puzzle garbage?
with some 2deep4u story added on?
because that's why I failed to pirate it
and let me tell you it was fucking effective
>>321693901
Thanks mang, using this game as a reference in my uni essay, for some reason all the wikis are bare as fuck.
>>321695157
wat
>>321665009
Talos and Gehenna are both really good, but the puzzles are too easy.
>>321695157
The game had normal DRM like any other game. It didn't take long to crack. Why am I responding to this post when it's probably a troll?
>>321670826
Serious Sam 3 was shit, so...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEOd1EC3J3w
what is the significance of this and why does it look so bad
>>321665009
Isn't it 50 dollars?
>>321695157
You really thought it was worth it to type all that, fill the captcha and hit the "submit" button?I replied so I guess so
>>321695556
there's a sale on nigga
>>321695507
fork parker is the financial officer for devolver digital. This easter egg is just a little joke and Parker himself found it funny.
>>321695556
it's $40 normally
it's $10 right now
>>321695507
Fake Croteam CEO, he even has a bogus twitter account, look it up.
>>321666185
Thank you for putting it into words for me. For some reason, the header just completely puts me off even looking at the game's page.
>>321666359
Croteam did meme's before you were born
>>321695649
>>321695669
oh it's fake? I feel stupid now.
>>321666185
this. but the game itself is good tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCDAszFV-7U
>>321690953
I'm not sure. It just really didn't appeal to me. The name nor the picture gave me any clue about the game. As the OP said this kinda went under the radar so I had no reason to look into it or learn about it
>>321695747
https://twitter.com/forkparker
There's usually some pretty funny ass shit going down there.
>>321665009
So is talos in the game?and is he able to be worshipped?
>>321695649
>>321695669
This whole time I honestly thought there was an anti-capitalism/greed theme I should've seen in the story. I didn't realize it was an easter egg.Then again I was cheating, breezing through the game just to see the story the whole time
>>321695809
That's actually why I looked into it, personally. I saw the picture and had no idea what it could be and just downloaded the demo.
And it turned out to probably be my GOTY.
It's strange, all my favorite games I've known nothing about before playing them...
>>321665009
>anti piracy measurements
are they still in effect with current cracks? i'm currently playing a pirated version and not sure if i should continue (haven't reached 2nd level of the tower yet)
>>321674263
>>321678779
>>321681385
>>321689046
>>321691457
stop samefaging and go to sleep Croteam
>>321689529
herrgott you are stupid
>>321666185
>Pretentious
This buzzword doesn't even make sense. A picture of a robot holding a cat is pretentious? What? I think the word you MEANT to use was ironic.
>>321674263
>game written by liberal art majors where you sit around and think about stupid shit like "what is a person?!!?!?!"
>not pretentious
>>321691750
which one is that
>>321677672
and that was easily circumvented by installing the pirated game in a dummy /steamapps/common/the talos principle/ folder
>>321696015
>Then again I was cheating, breezing through the game just to see the story the whole time
Really? The story sort of loses its weight when you aren't doing the puzzles and exploring it yourself.
>>321695784
https://youtu.be/5Ox7HtDGuxA?t=117
This @ 2:07 is one of the best tunes I've heard in a video game.
>>321666359
croteam had memes (read: easter eggs) in their games since serious sam 1.
>>321669408
well two of them are legitimately retarded because they aren't indicated on the level signs like usually. also I can think of two others where finding them involved randomly roaming around in a level looking in every nook and cranny for an hour. really fun and deep gameplay!
I initially wasn't interested not because I thought the image was pretentious, but because it doesn't tell me anything useful about the game besides "it has a robot and a cat in it".
>>321696232
>opinions
>>321696261
jesam li pogodio?
>>321696309
Honestly, I am just really bad at puzzles. It got to the point where I would get stuck for an hour on early puzzles that were apparently supposed to be easy.
The scenery/philosophy were good enough for me. I'm a fag, I know.
>>321696232
>He thinks society and culture would exist without the arts
Any faggot can memorize some math codes and build a bridge or look at a germ under a microscope. STEM degree is obtainable by anyone who dedicates their life to being a replaceable drone who will live their whole existence studying and memorizing boring shit. 90% of those faggots are also peasants with the inability to be creative, think for themselves, or do anything worthwhile. It takes a true genius to master the arts, and most who try will fail. Just like you did. The ability to truly understand humanity brings about a pure bliss and enlightenment that you're tiny one-way mind can't even being to comprehend.
>>321696478
what made it feel ok to me was that I stumbled on a couple of eastereggs while searching, and qr codes i'd missed. there was more content to keep it interesting while I was searching
I hate puzzle games.
It's not that I'm bad at puzzles; I can do pretty much any ones I find in tests or online. The problem is with puzzle games, you are more impeded by the physical limits of the game than you are your ability to actually figure out the puzzle's solution.
Here is an example. You play a video game, and you come across a high ledge. There are several pillars around you of varying height. The solution to this puzzle is, as far as you can tell, "leap on the smaller pillars so you get to a high pillar, and then jump to the ledge from that high pillar."
But everything goes wrong from here, despite knowing the solution. You can't quite jump on the pillar you know you're supposed to jump on because of some gameplay contrivance. Your ability to grab ledges is impeded unless you leap from a very specific angle. Your ability to glide randomly cuts off if it comes too close to pillar geometry, or it curves at an awkward unnatural angle.
This is not a puzzle. If that puzzle existed in actual life, I could solve it immediately. But because I have to abide by the game's physics and controls, I can't actually solve the puzzle and I just get annoyed and quit.
Am I alone on this?
>>321696773
tl:dr
you just suck at them lol
>>321696737
YOU THINK AN ARTIST CAME UP WITH ROCKETS THAT PUT A MAN ON THE MOON ANON? YOU THINK ARTISTS CAME UP WITH PENICILLIN? YOU THINK ARTISTS INVENTED THE TRANSISTOR? FUCK I'M MAD
>>321696773
no I know exactly how you feel, in some games they put rare or hard to find items on high platforms that you need to pretty much break the system to get to.
>>321696927
>YOU THINK AN ARTIST CAME UP WITH ROCKETS THAT PUT A MAN ON THE MOON ANON? YOU THINK ARTISTS CAME UP WITH PENICILLIN?
>what are blueprints
>>321696773
You're not alone. And it's not just puzzle games that are guilty of this.
Consistency is incredibly important.
>>321696927
>FUCK I'M MAD
Clearly. it's just video games dude.
did you start looking differently at online messageboards since playing RtG?
>>321696575
Yeah you're kind of a sick, twisted individual. But to each his own. I was never that good at puzzles but I think The Talos Principle helped me by providing me with the right design and motivation.
>>321697128
Go away Elohim
>>321696927
Man would never have even dreamed of going to the moon in the first place if it wasn't for philosophy. Penicillin was created by a STEM person yes, but one who was also in tune with the arts. Notice the literal millions of other STEM people who didn't even have the ability to think about how to create penicillin because they were so caught up in their repetitive drone lives. Inventions are created by true artists. Creation is art. Society is lucky that there are a few artists who are capable of seeing STEM as an art form, treat it as such, and bring about wonderful creations. The millions of other STEM workers are degenerates who simply memorize boring codes, a thing which any human is capable of doing.
>>321696737
10/10
>>321696927
He's right though. Those things didn't come out of technical proficiency with memorization of arbitrary metaphors to describe our world (which is what art is too anyway), innovations can only come from creativity.
>>321697305
You are so fucking stupid you think that penicillin was created?
>>321696773
call me dumb but i dont get your point
>>321696128
The one I got had nothing wrong with it.
>>321697305
you best be kidding
>>321696773
One of the best things about Talos Principle is that it has very clear cut and intuitive rules.
You can easily tell what you can and cannot do, mostly because it has very standard FPS controls with a familiar feel. The game also shows where you can jump beforehand
>>321697402
>innovations can only come from creativity.
Creativity is not exclusive to artists.
>>321697475
He's talking about the game engine limitations which don't make sense in the real world. Things you expect to work but they don't in the game.
>>321676287
How do you get it
>>321697565
>He's talking about the game engine limitations which don't make sense in the real world. Things you expect to work but they don't in the game.
still dont see how puzzle games are any different than any other game. you cannot outflank an enemy in linear shooter nor smash through a wooden doors in RPGs
>>321698184
>nor smash through a wooden doors in RPGs
You say this because you have experience like me. Imagine someone playing an RPG for the first time. He'd get mad he can't unlock a broken door because lolgame. It's completely arbitrary.
>>321696773
Yeah, so many games have that dissonance between what you feel you should be able to do and what you really can. But I think The Talos Principle is designed well around that. It's a modular sort of puzzle game, so every puzzle is solved with particular discrete "puzzle pieces" which have their own logic and rules. There isn't really that distraction and dissonance of "well if this was real life I'd just do this!" because you are mostly working within the logic of these puzzle pieces, and not within what you should be able to do with your body. As another anon said though, even if TTP had your specific example, it'd solve it because it'll show you if you can jump to something when you aim at it, and when you jump it'll automatically jump you to that place.
Why is there a cat? I finished the game and there was nein cat.
>>321696773
Giving the player that much agency is in essence increasing the problem space to infinity. The Rubiks cube is easy if you just pull it apart or replace the stickers. You just have to count the quirks of the games' implementation as rules of the puzzle given, and then the puzzle becomes two fold; figuring out what you need to do, and how you need to do it.
>>321698618
get the secret ending
>>321698618
It's a third ending, and I think the cat's also in an easter egg
>>321665009
>Blatant Portal ripoff with equally blatantly ripped off robot models from iRobot
>Good
>>321698618
because of "internet loves cats" meme
>>321699062
0/10
>>321699062
i ripped off ur mom last night in bed m80
>>321699519
>replying
>still giving 0/10
>not knowing how the meme works where you give .5/10 for responding
>getting mad
I just wanted Serious Sam 4.
>>321698850
>>321698618
Yea, you have to find a CRObar on one of the Egypt maps, smash some planks in the ground and then release the cat from the box.
pic related makes me glad I'm out of college.
>1500 words
and they wonder why students make really long sentences or answer things in round about ways
>>321700270
so THAT'S what that plank-door was for! Fuck, I thought it would house the last star but when I found it elsewhere I just assumed it was just a graphical asset I hadn't seen before. Now I gotta go back
Okay guys, I've just bought it and played for an hour. I'm in that whatshisname temple. I've completed door 1, 2 and 3.
Please tell me it gets better. The philosophy is nice and all but the puzzles suck. They're pisseasy. Convince me it gets better or else I might just refund it.
>>321701217
A levels are literally tutorial levels to let you get used to it. It gets harder. Not impossible mind you but considerable harder.
>>321701217
It gets pretty fucking unintuitive later on. Some star puzzles are straight up bullshit.
>>321701217
They get a lot harder, don't worry.
>>321700493
Yea, there is also a jetpack on one of the levels which can be unlocked by solving all the puzzles. It's pretty fun.
>>321701361
>>321701379
>>321701440
Kay, thanks guys, I keep playing, anything else I should keep in mind to enjoy the game to the fullest?
>>321701587
Enjoy the game
Good luck anon!
>>321701587
If you get stuck, move on, because there might be a similar solution further on, but it's easier to understand.
>>321665009
The issue I had with this game was with the writing.
too often I found that there wasn't really an option that represented my view on the philosophical topics that the game covers. So i would chose the closest one, only for the game to spend the next two hours telling me why I'm an asshole for things I don't even believe in because the way the writing was the handled.
Really good puzzles though, better than portal 2 in that department imo.
>>321701217
yeah, the games pretty long. if you're only in the first hub and did 1, 2, and 3, that's barely anything. there are 3 main hubs and puzzles eventually get really hard and complex. if you want some hard but weird stuff definitely go for the star puzzles.
>>321702286
haha xDD
>>321702358
just unlocked hub B, but I had enough to climb the tower a bit. can you keep climbing without even touching B and C?
>>321701587
The hardest puzzles involve multiple levels.
in RtG: is there any reason other than fun to look for more stars afterfreeing admin?
>>321680281
Except it doesn't have Portal's infinite replay value, in-game level editor, co-op missions, momentum-based puzzles, etc
but no yeah, better in every way
>>321702601
no, i'm pretty sure you need every red piece to climb the tower.
>>321665009
are there kitties in the game or is it just a Phalanx situation
shilling by croteam in this thread is hard
>>321702771
there are a couple, see
>>321698776
>>321698850
>>321700270
>>321702737
>momentum-based puzzles
it kinda does in a way, at least RtG does
>>321702887
it's 3 am in croatia right now
>>321702889
Aww, they're mostly hidden
Oh well, maybe I'll try this game some day
>>321702286
Am I in for some overly pretentious 2deep4u* story if I buy it?
* not that deep though, really
>>321702887
They are one of the few studio's I wouldn't mind shilling here.
>>321703015
yes and how do you know that?
>>321703042
not really, the game is really just a intro to philsophy, it's kind of interesting at parts.
The game isn';t good because of it's story though, it honestly has some of the best puzzle mechanics out there. If you like puzzle games, this game is one of the best.
>>321703042
Not really. It has basic philosophy and stuff but it's not pretentious at all.
>>321703042
There's a LOT of readable material that you skip that will give you an idea about the world you're in. But other then t hat not that much deep shit
>this many idiots jerking themselves off over being so clever and euphoric as to appreciate the shit-tier 3d puzzles made by a group of self aggrandising, pretentious first year comp sci drop outs who opened a Philosophy for Dummies textbook
Here's a helpful guide on how to make neckbeards drown you in their neetbux and watery cum:
Step 1: Make something that sounds/looks difficult and scientific, but is easy enough that nobody will actually fail at it. Remember- if you, the developer, spurn other neckbeards or yourself by actually creating something that requires originality or complex thought and can thus be failed at and deflate the ego of the consumer or creator, you've lost your key selling point; namely the masturbatory inflation of ones perceived intelligence.
Step 2. Settle on the themes of quantum mechanics, advanced robotics, data analysis or molecular biochemistry. Not because you understand them or have any experience in the field, but because the bigger the number of syllables, the harder your dick is when it comes time to jerk yourself off over how euphoric and intelligent you are.
3. Slather your unoriginal preteen psuedoscientific whiny poetry in religious symbolism and metaphor that has no pertinence to any of the themes or gameplay elements (see: the entire Evangelion series) for the sheer purpose of advertising your diving board for the product with the depth of a kiddy pool.
Step 4. Watch as hordes of fanboys vigorously defend your high school English project because recognising that it's a quagmire of fake depth and masturbatory self enlightenment requires the kind of critical thinking and social groundedness that would've made them smart enough not to need the intellectual resume padding of super-deep ultra-philosophical puzzle games in the first place.
>>321702486
Wow.
What a rude shitposter.
>>321703814
nice pasta, i've seen it before.
6/10 might repost.
>>321703212
>>321703410
>>321703552
Thanks anons. I'd buy at full price but gotta get on sale now that I'm kinda short on money
>>321703146
I live in europe
>>321703924
plus the one where the moon turns and is an apperture science logo on the other side
>>321704039
Nice bait, but I originally typed all of that out just then. I might bait someone else just like this later on to discredit their legitimate criticism of me and my shitheap game I love jerking myself off over.
>>321703042
>pretentious 2deep4u* story if I buy it
not at all. the story is actually kinda sad in the end if anything.
>>321701217
wait till you get the puzzles where you have to use lasers, fans, the recorder, boxes, and shit all at once.
>>321704082
*in croatia
>same writers are working on SS4
mite b kl
>>321704570
>it's a recorder level
>>321703814
Why can't you just admit that it went over your head and leave it at that? For what purpose do you need to defend your ego on an anonymous video game board?
How is this on a scale from "Hidden Object Game" to "Riven", how good is this?Don't say better, nothing can top Riven.
>>321705087
Took me a while to figure out the mechanics of that one
>>321705087
I wish there was more of them desu
>>321705218
>sees somebody posting about how everyone in this thread is desperately jerking themselves off in defence of their fragile egos
>immediately says "I'M SMARTER THAN YOU STOP DEFENDING YOUR FRAGILE EGO"
Projection is a hell of a drug
>>321705087
recorder levels are great because you effectively get double the objects to use, this is what escapes most people's train of thought.
>>321704325
you literally don't present one actual argument in that post, it's bait. Fuck off and please consider killing yourself, if you already have, please consider following through.
>>321705808
>being this mad over your super-intellectual fapfuel being discredited
>>321705323
i'd compare some of the star puzzles to myst by some of their scale and complexity. the central puzzles are not adventure game type puzzles though, and don't work like myst at all. they're modular puzzles, a little like portal or something, where each puzzle has a set of explicit puzzle objects which you move, manipulate and use together to reach a goal. because of the nature of the game's world, the lore and story stuff isn't as consistent as myst. not in a bad way, it's just different because you get most of your information through random archives which seem to have come from someplace remote, what a voice from above tells you, an AI on a computer, and messages on walls from people who seem like they could also be playing the game. i'd suggest to try out the demo, it's good and contains some stuff not in the game.
>>321705701
It sounds good when you put it like that
Except in the game there are a few levels that combine timing, order and every tool in the game. Fuck those levels
>>321706063
you mean pseudo-intellectual right
>>321706117
>and messages on walls from people who seem like they could also be playing the game.
I actually thought they were messages from other people the first few.
>>321706390
some of them can be. you probably know this already anyway, but you can write messages on the walls and your steam friends will see them
>>321706331
That's implicit with the childlike hyperbole of calling it "super", you tard. Pic related, it's for you.
>>321706781
my friend it just looked like a simple mistake, sorry to offend you.
