Post a map better than this
Protip: You cant
>Dat use of roads
>Dat use of highways
>Dat use of waterways for boats
>Dat use of traintracks for trains and trams
>Dat use of airports evenly spread out
>Cities and towns spread out wonderfully
>Great balanced in everything
This map was literally perfect for every vehicle used. Why does GTA5's map suck so hard compared to this?
ya to be honest the use of space in san andreas is pretty top tier too bad game designers are so bad at use of space GTA5 is so big yet so empty
>>321652115
and boring, and useless for trains, planes and boats
The more advanced the technology gets, the worse game design gets because they have to sacrifice so much time and energy on making the technology work and look cool.
>>321651683
The map is god-tier, it's in reality so small yet feels so huge. I don't care that they used tricks like fog and slow cars, just the illusion they made of how big it is deserves big respect.
GTA V's map was so disappointing
>>321651683
its better because R* focused more on a fun map than a realistic one
>>321651683
>Cities and towns spread out wonderfully
They should have removed some of the small towns to be honest, at least one of the two above Los Santos
>>321651683
>Trains
One circle and that's it
>Boats
Literally no reason to go on a boat
>Airplanes
Literally no reason to fly anything. Maybe a Hydra but that's it
>Cities and Towns
3 big cities and then random houses everywhere.
>Balanced
Where?
>>321652762
CW has a major problem though. It's only good if you have ~20-30 players on both teams, otherwise it's shit.
>>321651683
what if?
>>321653147
>Stop liking what I dont like!!
>>321654101
What if?
![_MG_0730[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/V8MQgca.jpg "_MG_0730[1].jpg")
>>321653147
this is the dumbest shit i have ever heard
whats the need for multiple cars? one is enough. literally no reason to have 2 or more cars
Don't mind me, just being the perfectly balanced map here.
>>321655353
I would suck 1000 dicks for a GTA game this big.
>>321655912
Too bad both games its featured in are shit.
>driving through motorroad in wilderness
>it starts raining
>"Hold THe Line" comes on the radio
One of my top vidya moments actually. Felt like a nice summers day
>>321655912
dust1 is superior
>>321655924
Only if it's well designed with shit tons of detail. So never gonna happen.
>>321655924
Too bad this isn't possible.
Here you go, OP.
>>321655912
Really overrated, but it's still technically a well made map.
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yv5D2jo.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
So tiny yet so amazing
>>321651683
Is there a website where there are just game maps?
I'd be interested to see.
>>321656970
Its totally possible it would just take 10 years to make.
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YMnavOW.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>321655912
>>321657128
feels
>>321657107
And terabytes of disk space... and a top of the line computer to play.Unless you do some bull shit like add fog and make the game look like shit.
>>321657140
>first shot spread (when using an SMG at 1000 units like a retard) heatmap
FTFY
>>321657521
If they actually put effort into optimization and data compression it would work just fine.
>>321657092
You can start to see the age in monroes face, I wonder if she'll ever get dicked on camera before she turns into an old hag.
>>321657678
>use sniper rifle at intended range
>it misses due to RNG
What a competitive game we have here
>>321651683
The fact that they took out San Fierro blows me away to this day. It's the coolest part of San Andreas. The architecture is kind of retarded of course since it's San Francisco but it's really the most unique city in GTA.
Out of all the trolls here, I'm the only one that thought of this???
>>321651683
fun fact originally they wanted to make it even bigger so that travelling to another city would take a lot more time by car, so you'd use a plane or train to get there faster.
>>321657092
http://mapstalgia.tumblr.com/
shit attempt of people trying to draw maps from memory
http://vgmaps.com/
Actual extracts of VG Maps
>>321654101
Why is it on its side. And that still has massive amounts of nothing, like a couple straight roads
>>321652115
Bethesda has some good use of space. I hated fo4 but skyrim and fo4 both had great use of space. More specifically skyrim.
>>321655924
None of those places have any meaning when it's that big
>>321655924
This would be silly. Hundreds of towns like that is just useless nothing would matter if you're overwhelemd.
>>321651683
Tbh driving through the countryside got really annoying at times.
>>321658331
>skyrim
Skyrim has 5 cities crammed into its tiny map along with several towns and the stupid amount of caves and other points of interest. It's a good amount of content but the world is absolutely shit.
>>321657760
Take gta 5s load time and imagine how much worse it would be when the game would be at the very least a terabyte of data.
>>321658639
This. Anyone whos still riding the shit out of SA's dick probably hasn't' played it in 10 years and is letting nostalgia speak for them. after you get out of Los Santos and start the country side missions and the other cities the mission quality takes a huge fucking dive and only picks back up at the very end.
bolt action only.
>>321657007
think you meant this.
>>321657994
I don't know about Outland and Draenor, but I think Azeroth is objectively a pretty damn good map.
But Draenor feels real weird to me. It feels as if it's not a seperate world as it's supposed to be, when you're there it feels like you're just on another island on Azeroth.
>>321657052
what is this?
>>321658985
complete lie. i have replayed the game several times and it's always quality. one of the comfiest games ever. my favorite part is the desert missions
>>321658925
i'm sure you can just dynamically load it, use LOD and whatnot. several games already do it
>>321658985
You see anon, you've experienced newer games with better gameplay, comparing those games to the newer ones isn't really fair because your standards have risen.
GTA SA was good at it's time, but if it came out today it wouldn't hold a candle to other games.
>>321657904
>guy being shot at disappears
>its from rng not from lag on a casual server
ok bub
>>321659376I LOVE A RAINY NIGHT
>>321659336
gothic 1 you shithead and i'm from r9k
>>321658639
>>321658985
..vs. V's fucking mountains and forests?
>>321659571
I love how CS kiddies give me different explanations every time because they refuse to admit that they've dumped hundreds of hours into the lowest skill ceiling shooter on the market.
>>321659386
graphics wise, maybe not. but design and world building, this is still one of the top games. GTA and maybe MGS and minecraft are the best achievements ever made in the game industry. rockstar's world building is off the charts, the world REALLY feels alive. the pedestrians, the radio, the map, everything is so well done. san andreas is the best game ever made in my opinion
>>321657092
Age is a cruel mistress :(
>>321651683
I always hated the road layout, but to be fair it made the map seem a lot bigger than it actually is.
>>321655924
*unsheathes dick*
>>321655912
>balanced
>>321657140
>call of duty
>aiming for the head
CoD is just running and spraying. Guns have zero recoil, and shot placement have zero value.
>>321660008
I don't give a shit about CS. But that is obviously lag or a fucked up hitbox. It has nothing to do with how spread works.
>>321659571
>Throwing the word casual in when it makes no sense in the context because you know you've been btfo'd
>>321660906
And yet it has a higher skill ceiling than CS, how sad is that?
Oh well, a million Valvedrones can't be wrong.
>>321651683
The only thing that bothers me is that the entire map is so square.
It's not really noticeable when playing though, so it's not a big deal. It's just weird to me.
>>321657904
>Posting my Webm...
It was shit tick rate.
>>321661021
>I don't give a shit about CS
Well, that explains how you have no idea how spread works.
>>321655924
Thats too big anon.
The game could have been an hundred times better, but i liked the map.
>>321661545
exactly
I like games that are pointlessly fuckhuegI liked fuel
>>321661491
>standing still with one of the most accurate weapons in CS:GO
>a fucking bolt-action rifle
>that always hits it target if you are standing still
I mean. You should at least have played the game ONCE before you critique it's more in-depth game mechanics.
MOVE OVER BOYS GOTY MAP INBOUND
>>321653602
>stuff in the "unreachable" parts
Is this a mod map or just bait?
>>321655924
>FBI instead of FIB
You had one jorb there, Homestar.
>>321655924
Now this is overkill
>>321661849
You should take your own advice as you have no understanding of the gunplay in this game.
>>321661847
Install Daggerfall so we can never see you again.
>>321661919
I REALLY like Jak 2 and 3's maps as well. 2 more than 3, because I wish there was some kind of segue between the city and the wasteland, rather than having to take a car between the two.
>>321662252
Okay. I'm just gonna stop responding to you now.
>>321651683
San Andreas' map has a very microcosmic design
it works for games but its kinda not very realistic at all
Test Drive Unlimited has the most realistic map design of any game because its actually mapped to a real place
>>321662265
I've been trying to play it but I'm too retarded to figure anything out.
>>321655924
If that was ever made it would probably be an MMO.
>>321661849
You're wrong.
Fire up a listenserver and use "weapon_debug_spread_show 1" with the scout.
>>321662416
I wish more games did open world like that.
I'll take a smaller more content rich map over Just Cause 2 or TPP any day.
I think this is the perfect size
>>321662531
tiny?
>>321662342
My favorite part of Jak 1's map was looking back and seeing everything that was on it.
Everytime I replay it and I stand on the top of the mountain and I look back and see the forest temple, the bog blimp, all that kind of stuff.
And how the world felt like it physically changed as I did missions
>>321662414
Good idea. You should always educate yourself on the matter before attempting to discuss it, or you'll come out looking like a fool.
>>321662436
Really? It's a pretty simple game. More so than Morrowind.
>>321662691
Really? That map was pretty boring. Not bad or anything. Just, not memorable in any way.
>>321651683
Sad. Even SimCity 2013 has larger cities than this.
>>321659190
my nigga, who /brickolini/ here?
Netherstorm is one my favorites.
>>321662531
I've been playing a lot of 3 lately and holy fuck, it's a lot smaller than I remember. The content on the radio is a lot more limited too than previous titles.
>>321662531
I remember when I looked at thought "Wow, so many places to go!"
I also remember getting a fast car and jumping the broken bridge to get to the other islands before I even started the first mission.
>>321662691
Never played 1 because lolxboxclusic. What was there any real difference between that and 2's map? Aside from the Saints Row area of course.
What a glorious cluster of fuck this was
>>321657521
In ten years terabytes of space will be nothing.
>>321663279
MENAPHOS WHEN
>>321663170
I think only the prison and Nuclear plant were missing, but was also a bit smaller in escale.
>>321663279
There's just nothing else out there like it, although these days the entire population just groups in a few specific areas, like the grand exchange, Prifddinas, and whatever the flavor of the month training areas are.
I miss that sweet spot around 2006~2007 where you could go virtually anywhere and there would be other people there on every single world.
best map
>>321663052
Music radio channels are really fucking short
guess thats what happens in the first game.
>>321651683
>tfw you have to flee los santos
>tfw you see mt chilliad and realize how much more there is
![ro_map[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1ovYibf.jpg "ro_map[1].jpg")
Don't mind me.
>>321655912
>Dust2
>balanced
wew lad
>>321664027
This is seriously triggering my autism. What the fuck game is this? Yoshi's Island? The only SNES Mario I played was Super Mario World.
>>321664313
super mario earth
>>321664313
its just a rom hack bro
guess the game
>>321664801
Final Fantasy 3
Freelancer
>>321651683
I liked to go around the las vegas town on that highway.
>>321665108
nope
its a game aboutmonsters
>>321665152
Forgot pic.
>>321663279
>Limit summoning familiars with a duration based on your level
>Put summoning totems virtually everywhere in the game to the point where it's impossible to run out of points unless you're just not paying attention
>>321665234
Final Fantasy Monsters: Coby's Journey
>>321665253
>not installing the Discovery mod
>>321662531
How the fuck did they manage to cramp a whole game in such a tiny space?
I remember thinking in 2002, having played a shitton of gta 2, that this map was huge.
>>321665319
its Monster Hunter
>>321665423
Fuck i miss this game
The coziest!
San Andreas had a massive map for literally no reason. It's straight up boring to go from place to place and there are no novel mechanics or systems to take advantage of the space. People who think SA was some masterpiece of design are directly to blame for the 'big open-world with a lot of shitty mini-games' meme we're trapped in now.
>>321664160
Good times. But the asian-inspired cities should be on a separate continent
>>321665253
>>321665423
>>321665547
sequel never
>>321665610
>SA
>Massive
>>321665610
As much as I love SA, III will always remain my favorite. No long trips, no useless RPG elements, no farming gang wars/property money in VC. Pure VIDEOGAME. Map was of the perfect size. Something that you know like the back of your hand by the second playtrough.
>>321665742
>Dr. Seuss in charge of world map
>>321659045
Fuck yeah some of my fondest gaming memories
>>321653602
im playing gothic 2 right now, such a great game
>>321665862
That's my problem with it. I like exploring, and you can see everything in GTA III in little over an hour.
>>321665778
It had multiple towns, cities and a ton of empty space between them. It was massive and it still is a big map to this day. Your typical sandbox map is maybe as large as the lower half of SA.
>>321665742
Dont remind me.
>>321665989
Oh yes, tell me how you found all the secrets in a little over a hour.
>>321665990
>ton of empty space between them
SA is dense as fuck, where are you coming from with this?
Even the Desert isn't sparse.
You sure you don't mean SA in 5?
>>321666006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj56okQaxZI
>>321663028
Netherstorm is the best area WoW ever had
>tfw it was cut from WoD
>>321666112
I meant exploring the map, not the stupid coke packages they feel the need to put in every game.
>>321666147
but what happens to the pilot?
>>321666132
I replayed 1/4th of it a year ago. Going from the starting city to the second city was a nightmare.
>>321666423
It's like 3 minutes if you take your time.
>>321663763
My dick
>>321666147
I wont be rused in believing that we will get a freelancer 2. Star Citizen is the best we're getting.
>>321666269
Unless you get a really fast car and just drive through every street mindlessly I'm sure it won't take you "about a hour", especially since you have to unlock islands by doing missions.
sparse, but pretty
>>321666529
That's needlessly long, especially because the terrain isn't even challenging.
>>321666613
>he's never jumped the bridge
no plebs allowed below line
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>>321666628
>people always complain about maps that are big but have nothing to do
>people always complain about brown and bloom
>SoC gets a pass on both
>>321666269
>Packages are placed around the map for you to discover them
exploration /ɛkspləˈreJʃ(ə)n/
noun
'to travel for the purpose of discovery'
>I meant exploring the map, not exploring the map!
>>321655924
That would be so amazing, I don't get why people have a problem with this that map is like real life
I heard you wanted some maps.
>>321666965
Sorry anon but I consider exploring and collecting to be 2 different things. Just because I go somewhere doesn't mean I have to grab everything that's laying around.
>>321662950
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ggPLKUIodg&index=12&list=PLB1B7178D8685D4EC
>>321666928
People complain about maps that have nothing to do in them when they're GTA clones and you're expected to race cars and shoot people and shit. Shadow of the Colossus has an open-world because it's effective for pacing and it's conducive to a sense of discovery.
>>321666847
>2001
>get gta3
>skip intro cutscene
>instantly turn around and do all the necessary exploits to get to other islands
>get in dodo
>instantly know how to fly it properly
>fly past most locations
>"wow this map is shit, I "explored" it in 40 minutes
>uninstall.exe
>Rockstar will never make another map like the one they made 10 years ago
>There will never be another map as good as San Andrea's
>>321667057
How have they not made a good Turok game in years? It's about a time-traveling native American who fights dinosaurs with the help of hot alien chicks. It's the perfect setting - shit, just typing that out makes me want an animated series.
still the best
>>321667210
>flying the dodo
I see through your lies.
I HATE SAN ANDREAS FAGS
YOU FAGS RUINED SANDBOX GAMES AND IT WAS HONEST TO GOD UBISOFT WHO SAVED THEM TO SOME EXTENT WITH ASSASSIN'S CREED 2
>>321667591
>AND IT WAS HONEST TO GOD UBISOFT WHO SAVED THEM
t. Alberte Barbosse
>>321651683
Yes i canThe beta map of SA.
>>321667331
???
https://youtu.be/I7kIq3ucVug?t=83
>>321651683
Calculate the surface area of pavement versus everything else. It's ridiculous.
>>321666734
>3 minutes is needlessly long
>>321658985
I replayed the entirety of SA for the first time in years last year, and I still loved it just as much as I did back then. I love riding through the country side.
>>321667812
Aside from the island in the northwest (Alcatraz?) what's the difference?
>>321664160
Ugh
>>321668214
A shit ton of very minor ones. It's not a very old version. Imagine seeing one of the first iterations, though. Would be awesome.
>>321668125
It's absolutely too long, yeah. Driving through the countryside isn't an interesting, challenging or novel gameplay experience. It's literal padding.
>>321668214
Small piece of Angel Pine missing. Some road layouts altered. Nothing major.
>>321664249
you will never have a non-symmetrical map that is perfectly balanced but dust 2 comes pretty close. it only slightly favors T's in pro GO.
>>321668687
don't play open world games then. SA has probably the most dense open world ever but if you think it's too shallow, don't play it. If the feeling of driving in the country side or desert in between cities doesn't give you a comfy feeling of freedom, then just stick to whatever games you like. incidentally, what games do you like?
>>321668687
That there are so many people like you out there who can't appreciate moderate amounts of periods of rest between points of tension and/or action infuriates me to no end.
>>321669631
I like plenty of sandbox games. Spider-Man 2, GTA III, Vice City, Dead Rising 2, Prototype 2, inFamous 2, Saints Row 2-IV, Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag, etc.
>>321669874
Shadow of the Colossus is one of my favorite games.
>>321669874
I know right? Permanent action action action is so un-fun and draining.
Mind you, there are plenty of people that love MMOs and ASSFAGGOTS, so I can't say anything.
Sadly, we are now a minority.
>>321669950
spider-man 2 is great, but none of the other games you mentioned offer more than SA. if you think san andreas is shallow but love black flag, dude, seriously? 3 and VC are both way lesser games than SA. less vehicles, less movement overall, less terrain and terrain diversity, not even talking about world building where SA is still king of all open worlds. dead rising 2 is very empty and shallow, saints row are meme games.
best sandboxes imo, that have a good world and make it interesting exploring it and being in it:
GTA sa, iv, v
far cry 2,3
assassin's creed 2
mafia 2
arguably new vegas
>>321670251
There's a happy medium between non-stop action and driving a tractor to the other side of the map for five minutes. In a game like Vice City you still get downtime, but it doesn't bore you between missions.
>>321670923
the most downtime you get in SA is driving a dirt-bike through the mountains listening to country music, which is still fucking awesome. SA is near perfect
>>321670923
>Not enjoying roaming the countryside listening to Running Down a Dream on their sick hog.
>>321655924
im fine with a Tijuana/SD up to Santa barbara and las venturas game. but not to scale. even if it's a fraction of that pic it would still be too overwhelming desu
>>321665290
Jagex is retarded, welcome to 2002.
The addition of yachts in GTA Online has made the gameplay experience much better cause now people have a reason to use boats.
I never really understood why in V they didn't make a medium-sized city on the north part of the island.
That way there would be a point in going up there.
As it is you get on the highway and it just loops back to the main city.
novigrad is such a vibrant, dense city.
>>321670738
San Andreas is a game about driving around and shooting, so the massive space isn't playing to the strengths of the mechanics, if anything it just makes driving more stagnant. GTA III and Vice City are both more mission focused and they have more dense and compact maps so through learning them they instill a sense of mastery when you can navigate through them as quickly as skillfully as possible. Dead Rising 2 is bursting with weapon variety and experimentation, but the time limit creates pacing so you don't exhaust yourself. Prototype 2 and inFamous 2 are both about spaces that take advantage of how it's fun to get around with super powers (Prototype has wide open streets and tall buildings, inFamous has cramped streets, short buildings and power lines everywhere). Saints Row 2-IV have a combination of good sized maps and fun ways to get around. Black Flag revolves around its economy to make sailing better and it spreads out a variety of opportunities to collect different materials all throughout its map.
>>321663717
To this day, I'm still scared of hearing the word Thais.
Holyshit they were crazy on antica over there, it was kill on sight.
>>321671931
this was my problem too. the main story mission were also lackluster in that area apart from the heist. the drive was tedious also. why not make it a lot huger with some unique stores to make the drive worth it?
>>321667812
>>321668214
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjnv4ckTMfs
>>321655924
Nice
>>321657904
>>321660008
>>321661441
>>321661491
>>321661545
>>321661698
>>321661283
>>321661309
damn get called out for not using OC fagot
>>321651683
GOAT map coming through.
(Link's Awakening for all the toddlers on here.)
>pick up a bike from the garage of my house on the upper end of Windy Street in Fierro
>blast some K DST
>go on a journey across the map, full throttle down the highways, zooming through cities, dodging the murderous AI
>comfy as fuck while breaking time records
this game was simply unbelievable in its time
>>321672569
> whoops.png
![Agility_Orb_Map[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/oOt9Xhp.jpg "Agility_Orb_Map[1].jpg")
sup
>>321658834
But it has a good balance between mountain, forest, swamp, tundra, a few landmarks every now and then, etc. It's small but it feels like an actual place, instead of just a flat chunk of land.
The cities are criminally small and shitty indeed, though. Solitude should have been at least 3 times bigger to actually feel and look like the Imperial capital of Skyrim
>>321662183
Nah. The AI is too stupid in that one.
>>321652829
>t's in reality so small yet feels so huge
Get the San Andreas mod for GTA IV and you'll see how fucking tiny it is
The increased draw distance and the lack of fog means you can literally see Fierro from Venturas
>>321672082
>San Andreas is a game about driving around and shooting
that's your first mistake. San Andreas is a game about exploring. Exploring the world and immersing yourself in that time period of 90's west coast culture and you have different flavors like the hood, downtown, the boonies, san francisco, the desert, vegas and there's radio stations for whatever is your flavor. I'd always correspond CJ's appearance and radio station with his location and time in the story. The radio stations have so much flavor in them, all the pedestrians say cool things and all the missions loop back and link to the world, which is a huge social commentary and recreation of the 90's (which is the entire point of GTA, the satire). The news reports talk about the things you did, the cutscenes are full of life, and god damn when I returned to Los Santos and the riots had broken out and the radio was reporting on it right before an NWA song, IT DOES NOT get much better than that in video games.
GTA 3 and VC are infinitely more shallow than that, but VC has the whole 80's miami pop culture thing going for it, but THEY are mostly just drive+shoot. SA isn't.
SA had all these different types of terrain, plus tons of vehicles, boats, hovercrafts, planes, swimming underwater, bicycles, THE JETPACK, trains, it was unheard of, and still is.
DR2 is still slow. you walk slow, the map sucks, but you get to hit infinite zombies with a bat or a bat+nail. that's it
Never played Prototype 2, but 1 was ok. never played infamous, but it seems good.
Saints Row are still meme games, but the novelty wears off quick.
Black Flag is the thing you complain the most about. It's shallow and unnecessarily big. It's just OCEAN, and the actual cities suck. It's ok if you like the pirate fantasy but don't pretend like it's a deep open world experience.
The games I listed are still imo the ones that offer the most in an open world. Even mafia 2, because of the world building
Here you go.
>>321672792
tfw playing crackdown with friends
>>321651683
Best map here.
>>321657052
What's this?
>>321651683
Another one
>>321673810
Pretty sure it's Gothic.
>>321672185
Thais was always the place to be. Venore aka casual village was for noobs afaird they will get rook'd.
>inb4 Carlin
who even went there?
I love map threads.
>>321673996
Thanks, Anon! Looks interesting.
>san andreas best rockstar open world map
Plebs you guys never played RDR then
best map
>>321674287
>dirt and shrubs: the map
>>321670738
>mafia 2
>sandbox
hahaha, nothing more than a movie with gameplay events, fuck that game and 2k
>>321673202
I agree the priorities have shifted in the series, because it used to be about driving, shooting and causing mayhem in challenging missions, and since SA it obviously hasn't been that. I'd be fine with that, but the mechanics and concept haven't evolved one bit since it decided that it's going to be a simulator lite. When I said it's about driving and shooting I was saying that's what the mechanics emphasize, and then I went on to say it's at odds with having a big world. Now in GTA V you'd expected to slowly walk down the street but if you stand next to someone else for a couple of seconds they run away or give you a smack, it's more obvious as a symptom there, but SA's conflicted design philosophy was the disease which started it. I think the writing is pretty good in San Andreas, but it's not good as a story because it's full of missions that don't matter and it's nightmarishly long. GTA satire isn't that sophisticated either, so the lively characters and lowbrow satire don't end up being enough to keep me interested. I don't know how it's enough to keep anyone interested.
>DR2 is still slow. you walk slow, the map sucks, but you get to hit infinite zombies with a bat or a bat+nail. that's it
DR2 isn't very slow. You jog by default, the map is very small but ridiculously dense and you're always having to avoid zombies to make good time.
>Black Flag is the thing you complain the most about. It's shallow and unnecessarily big. It's just OCEAN, and the actual cities suck. It's ok if you like the pirate fantasy but don't pretend like it's a deep open world experience.
I didn't say it's a deep open world experience and I didn't complain about shallowness (some of the games I listed as favorites are very shallow, in fact). I like it because it introduces a new set of mechanics to play with and it themes the game around it in a pseudo historical setting. There's more to it but I'm hitting the word limit.
>>321675356
forgot pic
>>321673202
Yes, this.
Hell, even the subtler things in SA, like the whole gang turf war mini-game.
All of those little things here and there led to a great world.
Same reason FF7 is loved too, the small things, the mini-games, all of it added up, many of the other games lacked these, both before and after FF7, but it still doesn't invalidate how great the other games are. (besides 13. Fuck 13.)
I've loved all the GTAs, a lot, but SA is just a level beyond.
>>321655260
>Stop disliking what I like!!
>>321675665
The city was perfect.
Too bad that countryside was useless.
>>321657092
she's SO much hotter, wtf.
>>321651683
SAN ANDREAS REMAKE WHEN
>>321676449
>remake
consider suicide
>>321657092
she needs the D already
>>321663170
No prision or nuclear plant, no university, no mall, no mountain and Saint Row was a run down ghetto in 1, where in 2 it became a high end retail, business and residential area.
>>321676449
Why would you want a remake?
Play it on PC with mods to improve it.
>>321676262
Yeah, but I liked how they fully used pretty much every corner of the city in all the missions and side missions, for instance, countryside with Ordinary Routine and the one in which you whack Morello
The attention to detail was great, I remember it even had different speed limits in the city and countryside
>>321651683
How about this map?
>>321656724
>both games
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>>321667732
we wuz memes n shiet
>>321663279
>mfw they only just finished Prifddinas
My young self thought they should make it a skillcape only city for the super-elite.
>>321676770
When I was a child, we settled our differences on this map
>>321675384
well they still used the same engine, and without overhauling everything they added little things that would make the game feel more complete as a 'sim' like you would call it. you can move while shooting, have 2 guns, one in each hand, move while crouching, walk (and occasionally respond to pedestrians or have them say something to you if you bump into them), jump over obstacles, swim (surface and underwater), and of course all the vehicles make for a much more robust experience in BEING in the world, but it still has some artifacts from the old games, and after all, GTA still needs large amounts of shooting and driving to be GTA..
>if you stand next to someone else for a couple of seconds they run away or give you a smack
this is one of V's biggest immersion breakers imo, but rockstar probably just wanted to give you fun ways to interact (read:ragdollize) with civilians, and when they run away and call the cops for no reason it feels like commentary on present america, ie the age of the SJW's.
>it's full of missions that don't matter and it's nightmarishly long
in my opinion, it's the modern day epic. not every single moment is of utmost importance, but it's literally that, an epic. an extraordinary adventure throughout the land of san andreas
>I like it because it introduces a new set of mechanics to play with and it themes the game around it in a pseudo historical setting
AC4 doesn't introduce it. AC3 did the boat thing first, and pseudo-historical settings are the main pillar of the series. it would be better as a non-AC game
>>321675356
it's about the world building, not necessarily being a sandbox. it's an open world full of sights and sounds, but unfortunately they didn't put much effort into it at the later stages, but the intro, my god, when you arrive in snowy new york in the 40's with Let It Snow playing for the first time, what a marvel. you can interact with so many things. it's about the WORLD BUILDING. which is why i have hope for mafia 3
>>321655924
>No man's sky mentality
Why suck 1000 dicks when you could just suck one perfect dick.
>>321677868
>but the intro, my god, when you arrive in snowy new york in the 40's with Let It Snow playing for the first time, what a marvel. you can interact with so many things.
True, too bad it's went downhill from that point, I'm still rustled and always will be, especially when I saw that removed- unimplemented-unfinished contents video
>>321673978
thebestthebestthebest
I wish the map in Bully was bigger.
Of course being a game about teenagers where your main means of transport is skateboarding and the player character passes out at 2 AM it couldn't be as huge as SA or anything like that but dunno, I always felt the city could have been a bit bigger, just for the sake of having more places to go and do stuff in.
>>321672569
>>321672671
Hell yes, 2D Zelda maps are the bomb. Do you have the Oracle of Ages/Seasons maps?
>>321678438
The map was fine. Wasn't too small, but it also wasn't fucking huge with nothing to do.
>every city is the equivalent size of a couple of blocks of GTA Vs Los Santos.
San Andreas nostalgiafaggots are the worst fucking part of the GTA fanbase. We get it you were 12 when you played it and you think it's hot shit, try playing it again sometime without the fog that tricked you into thinking the map was huge.
>>321678438
Never played Bully, but there's also something to be said for smaller, but open-ended maps condensed with interesting nooks and crannies.
>>321678551
>>321678738
Don't get me wrong I loved the game and the map was fine, I just think a few more places to explore wouldn't hurt. I'm not saying the city should be as big as SA's Los Santos or anything, that would be stupid.
>>321678563
I was26when I first played it
