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>Need to infiltrate the institute
>try shooting up the front door
>nothing happens
I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas
>>321633374
Talk to faggot in front of the door and do his mission. It's to retrieve a statue, and it can be found to the west in the Emporion Mall or something, filled with Lunatics.
Is there any better overall footwear than tabi boots?
>kevlar version boosts mechanical protection while still giving a boost to evasion and dodge, movement bonus and -ap cost to melee weaponry
>>321634158
No, unless you're going for a fist-build, then you're better off using metal boots.
>>321633874
Is there no alternate route? I don't want to reload my save
I wish this game had an ingame map.
I usually don't mind drawing my own maps but here there are multiple large interconnected levels and it's a pain in the ass drawing a nice map.
Especially annoying when you go underground, start drawing on the one level below map and it turns out you were actually two levels below.
Also Quick Tinkering is the most OP feat in the game.
>>321634342
You want to infiltrate the institute, because you can do a fuckton of quests in there, and you get access to good merchants and some really nice items.
>>321634401
Yeah, but Styg is never going to add one. Doesn't matter how many people in the forums complain, he is literally NEVER going to add a map.
And it gets even worse for Deep Caverns, which is a literal fucking maze and scavenger hunt, and there is no map posted online, except for a shitty one made in notepad or something.
So what factions are locking you out of other factions?
Protectorate/Free Drones?
One of the 3 oligarchs?
Can i still access Tchort facility if i've joined Protectorate?
>>321634505
Alright thanks
>>321634526
Yes
Yes
Yes
How many points in Throwing do you need for your grenades to have solid 90% hit chance on medium distance?
They seem like a good backup on virtually any build.
>>321634989
>throw nade
>lands at own feet
>throw caltrops
>stuck it the center of it
any editors yet? I fucked up so much on my character
>>321635427
There's a good table on cheat engine forums, useful to fixing a fucked up character.
>Protectorate has Dreadnoughts
>DOS graphics
What's so great about this piece of shit because the visuals sure aren't worth getting interested about it
>>321635548
>>321635427
this sounds scripted...
>>321635427
Cheat Engine.
Don't feel bad about using it, because the game doesn't give a shit about your feelings.
>>321635637
You get a chance to pilot one in one of their missions if you join them.
Shit's fun, but only lasts for a moment.
>>321635772
Game looked pretty unappealing in the screenshots. When I actually strarted playing it, the comfy suddenly kicked in. The atmosphere is really good if you ask me.
Ambient soundtrack is really good.
>>321636073
What style of gameplay is it?
An isometric RPG, or an isometric adventure game?
>>321636130
It's fallout 1-2 with much bigger focus on combat and exploration and less on quests and writing, story is kinda just there.
>out of flashbangs
>checked SGS, Juckyard and Core City merchants and none of them have them in stock
>too high chemistry requirement to make my own
What do?
I'm swimming in coin but there's nothing to buy.
>>321635772
Game looks incredible, you're an idiot.
>>321636272
Have you tried Blaine or Deacon?
>>321636337
Forgot about Blaine, gonna check. Don't know Deacon.
>>321636430
He's behindthe bar in rail crossing, you need to pass a perception check
I'm loving Core City but fuck everything about this mission in particular.
Also is this gun any good?
how big is in-game world?
>>321636989
Enormous up to the point you can easily get lost in all those underground labyrinths and metro stations.
>>321636942
>not going in and out like a ghost
>>321636989
It feels huge, partially because fast travel is limited and you don't walk particularly fast
>>321636942
>actually killing everyone
>not masking as protectorate soldier
>>321636942
Eh, the low damage isn't worth it. Sure, it's only 12 AP per shot, but still not worth it.
>>321636989
Maps themselves are small, but there a gigantic fuckton of them.
>>321637097
>>321637187
Them dog tags though.
>>321637442
Which you only need two or three off.
>>321637094
>>321637146
>>321637221
thanks, I think I will try this out
are there any good guides yet? any tips for beginner?
>>321637721
thanks, FAMILY
>>321637187
The armor has like 8 str req tho. If I shoot up everyone can I still join the protectoreate?
>>321637567
>are there any good guides yet? any tips for beginner?
Minmax your stats.
Shopkeepers will not buy all your stuff, only certain items and in certain amounts, so don't go hoarding anything. Items don't despawn so feel free to drop your shit anywhere you like indian-style.
Throwing and Trap are support skills. Make sure to focus either on Melee, Crossbow, Psi or Guns. If you go Psi, always have a backup weapon skill to use.
Stealth is supreme. Don't neglect Lockpicking or Hacking. Crafting skills are good and gives access to the best gear.
>>321637837
That's not the protectorate, that's the praetorian guard of Core City.
>>321637837
>The armor has like 8 str req
You can wear it with 3 STR.
Now that I got to Depot A I'm making another character, I have some questions though:
What leveling system is FASTER? I explore everything and open every lock but I also murder shit.
I plan on dropping pickpocket but I've seen some oddities that can be pickpocketed, like from gang members and protectorate soldiers in Junkyard.
How avaible are bullets later in the game? I pickpocketed a shitload of ammo from south gaters but I'm concerned I will have problems.
I'm on the fence about persuasion. I always take it in games but it seems it's a waste of points I can spend elsewhere.
>>321636942
>big as fuck but has all the best features (shops, arena, and Gorsky) in one area
>oddities left all over the place to encourage exploring the city itself
>fair number of fights scattered around as well
>everything you kill is human, meaning tons of useful/valuable loot
>shithole slums area is actually interesting for once
>several factions present
>tons of houses to rob
>Al Fabet and all the other entertaining NPCs scattered around
Core City a best. The only real downside to it is the long as fuck walk from the market to the docks/train.
>>321638068
Fuck me so much. I think I sold it, fuuuck. I'll try to see if I can buy it back. Thank you anon
Anyone knows where I can find Leo in Deep Caverns?
>>321638135
Oddity rewards exploration. Classic rewards combat and skill use. With your gameplay I'd say Classic, especially if you steal from NPCs a lot.
As you get better skills, abilities and weapons you need less bullets for enemies. Bullets are important throughout the entire game, but it all depends on your build.
Persuasion will allow you to skip some battles and tight spots, but it's not worth the points. You're better of putting them into combat or crafting skills.
>>321638269
I think every steel armor counts.
>>321638347
hm tried it and nope, a normal steel armor didn't work. I can't even remember the armor you're supposed to wear
>All those Tchorist interview questions
Comedy gold
>go to camp hathor
>turn to west
>nigga called Ol' Chopper ambushes me
>had to savescum thrice to kill him
at least i got a cool knife
>>321639046
In order to impersonate him you need his armor, his weapon, his badge, his combat glove and caltrops in second slot.
>>321639208
Ah then screw it. I'm not a sneaky character either so I guess I'll leave the quest and go back to kill everyone later...
>>321639196
>at least i got a cool knife
Kukri?
That thing is amazing.
>>321639046
>>321639208
>>321639284
You only need his armor and the badge in your utility slot, then you need to pass a Persuasion check.
>>321639105
>Have you ever smothered a baby?
>>321638180
>The only real downside to it is the long as fuck walk from the market to the docks/train.
Use the elevator?
>getting high in core city
>if we make it sound like undertale we can confuse hipsters
Dunno nothing about the game but pass.
>playing blunderrail
>>321639503
It's called getting in Motion you derailed idiot.
I swear I'll dominate your mum.
>>321639503
>>321639643
What happens if you actually take the drug?
>>321639685
You have to experience it yourself.
>>321639685
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra7Fa6kE718
>>321638068
>You can wear it with 3 STR.
Oh shit really?
I just assumed i couldn't
There's still the problem of having zero speech and not being the same gender as bob though
>>321640040
Just wear all his shit and enter warehouse through the ventilation and catacombs.
Where do i get more mind powers?
I already bought all of the ones from SGS
I did find one that makes it hard for enemies to hit me with ranged but it's not particularly useful
>want to start playing the game
>been staring at CC for 10 minutes now with no clue how I want to build
>>321640329
Explore. They are usually hidden at the end of major quests like a rape dungeon of a certain cute girl.
>>321640451
>major quests like a rape dungeon of a certain cute girl.
Come again?
>>321640360
NerdCommando has a couple basic templates on his youtube and he's an autistic minmaxer so you know they are viable/good.
The most basic and easiest to play is heavy armor + assault rifles.
>>321639528
Great post mate it's even better than the exact same one you made yesterday
Mutants are stronger than i remember. They easily kill me with one melee attack. Thank fuck for throwing net and molotovs.
Alright, I'm stuck at Deep Caverns. Spoilers ahead.I've been to mushroom forest, gotten the mykordia and made a bunch of grenades of them.
I've been to worm tunnels and gotten the hydraulic fluid from there.
I've powered up the warehouse and residential block, and gotten everything there. Obviously been to the power station as well.
I've also been to Tithonius Lab, the Tchort outpost and Faceless outpost, and I STILL haven't found Leo.
I have a total of 5 unique hydraulic pistons, 3 small and 1 huge canister of fluid, 5 anti-psimoprh-something grenades, and I have no clue what to do with them.
WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO NOW.
>>321640329
There are two east of railway corssing in the ironhead base.
Prepare your anus though, those guys are no joke, but the loot was fucking nice.
>>321640565
Yeah, at the Foundry. There's a woman there with... peculiar tastes.
Fun quest actually.
>>321640750
Half the fun of that quest is not expecting to bedrugged and murdered
I just started and man that character creation system was kinda daunting. I ended up making a character with the intention of being DODGY PISTOLSMAN, is that viable? I invested primarily in Guns and both dodging skills, took mechanical and tailoring for crafting and some amount of points in lockpicking and hacking. I also put some points into Persuade but apparently that's not super important? Probably should remake and drop my Will and up my Dexterity if so, I put it up to 5 so I didn't get a persuade penalty.
I should probably like actually try playing the game before theorizing about builds though. I didn't even get out of the starter town yet. I went for the Oddity EXP system, are the Oddities obvious enough when you come upon them? I'm worried not checking every single box in town will fuck me up.
>>321641495
Skip Persuade. Ignore it for your first run, it's not worth it.
>I'm worried not checking every single box in town will fuck me up.
There are multiple oddities around the game. Don't worry about missing one or two because they will inevitably end up showing up on later levels.
>>321641495
Your build should be fine. You'll want to pick up an energy shield as soon as possible as well as good pistol perks like gunslinger, knee cap, expertise, aimed shot
You should be checking every possible container if you're playing on Oddity though
Why is this game so good?
What the hell does Telekinetic Proxy do?
>>321642083
Serbian folk magic
>>321642097
It makes you twice as strong.
>>321642097
mimics teleknetic punch/force emission
>summon it near the enemy
>use teleknetic punch on enemy
>proxy uses another on him
>punch his shit with force emission
>proxy does the same
>move the proxy somewhere else
>the enemies the proxy touched are now dazed
it's psi monk bread and butter
Should I have a shield emitter by depot a?
>>321642556
I don't think it's possible to even find the appropriate parts for one until after Depot A
>>321642556
just make a leather armor with mutated dog leather
or use cheat engine to get sure footed perk
>>321637721
>Is the writing good?
>No
Who says this? I thought the writing was pretty good.
>>321642959
It's alright, I have a siphoner leather armor, acid is a joke. Dem mutants tho. Well nothing a molotov, a net and full auto AR can't handle.
>>321643136
Same, the story starts out slow but gets awesome.
Is this really worth 10 bongbills?
You guys weren't joking about Deep Caverns, well it's not that hard as long as I have AP rounds and batteries but I'm running low on those, I have to sneak all the time to save them.
Question,Are the Faceless always friendly to you, or does it depend on whenever you helped that one from Core City or not? I helped him and now they let me pass and see their Commander, I want to know if I did good
protectorate or free drones?
my initial expression of the free drones is that they are retarded anarchists who oppose protectorate for no rational reason and when you ask them to return the train to its owners they call you a sheep and other stupid shit
but on the other hand im getting incredibly strong NCR vibes from the Protectorate, they seem like a bunch of hypocritical imperialists who only care about domination
and looking at their quest lines on wiki it seems the protectorate has a lot more interesting quests than the drones
>>321643535
What are you expecting out of the game? In my case it's worth way more. Altho I got it from the dev for free, kek.
>>321643618
I'm expecting at least 10 hours of entertainment and enough of it that I'll want to recommend the game to friends.
>>321643607
They both have their positive and negative sides.
>but on the other hand im getting incredibly strong NCR vibes from the Protectorate
Me too.
It's like Protectorate is NCR with it's aggressive expansionism, but Free Drones are pretty much like the Legion, their methods are pretty fucking cruel even if they have a noble goal.
I prefer Protectorate honestly.
>>321643686
You'll definitely get more than 10 hours out of it
>>321643686
It's 70+ hours long. If you like single character turn based combat you will like it. Well worst case scenario there's steam refund.
fuck me, i just started the game but it melts my retina reading this font
it's not about the size, it's about the font itself
tried every 16:9 resolution (1280x720 was the one meant to be played at according to the dev), large fonts in settings but it still hurts my eyes
if only i could mod some different fonts in but so far google gives nothing
>Talking to friend
>Mentions steam gifts
>"What do you want anon?"
>"U..Undertale!"
>He calls me a faggot and gives me this instead.
Is there anything I should know before going in?
>>321643997
Don't take doctor or persuade.
You have a good friend.
>>321643795
>their methods are pretty fucking cruel even if they have a noble goal
What sort of cruel methods do you talk of? I haven't had any interaction with them this far other than the guys at the stolen train.
You know the name of the final protectorate quest?gas the drones
>>321643576
Also depends on other factors, wether you were telling them the truth and such things.
>>321640664
Alright, I manged to find the way.
I'verepaired the gate controls, gotten rid of the goo shit in front of the door. It's all ready, except it won't open when I use the lock to the side. I can't power up anything else in the power station, can I?
How do I edit my characters stats? I'm not looking to exactly cheat, but I made some crappy choices with feats and I'd like to correct them.
People often mention cheat engine but I have no fucking idea how it works
>>321644360
There are two guides to use them; one on the Underrail forums and another on the Steam forums. They both explain it thouroughly.
>>321644204
I did both questline and Free Drones are far more cruel.
The final quest of the Protectorate questline is an exception, as you are forced to work withtheChemical Assault Team, which is 3 psychos that are hated by pretty much everyone in the Protectorate but they are effective so the General keeps them around
While Free Drones are pretty much terrorists, bombing trains, stealing supplies from innocents and they have a fair share of the chemical attack as well. Hell your first mission is tokill a civilian envoy
>>321644360
Cheat Engine is basically a memory editor, think Gameshark
With a preexisting table it's pretty easy to use
>>321644591
could you spoonfeed me enough to link me the guides?
>>321644864
>http://steamcommunity.com/app/250520/discussions/0/494632768632577823/
I didn't ask for this.
>>321645036
Is there a way to remove feats I already have though? I'd feel like a cheater having extra feats
>>321644360
It was my first time dealing with cheat engine too.
Just download this file, install cheat engine, run file, attatch process and do your editing.
No idea how to remove/add feats though.
>>321645726
Forgot link: http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=586479
>>321645726
>>321645036
thanks to the guide i got the hang of giving myself extra points and feats, but i still have no idea how to remove existing ones
Damn guys this game is great!
I started it 7 hours ago and couldn't stop until now because I'm starving. It's been a while since I got hooked by a game like this.
How the fuck am I supposed to plant this bug for Abram exactly? I have zero stealth.
>>321646743
>armor/boots with stealth on them
>cloaking device
>stealth/cloak outside of the room with deputy
>run up to the back and right click on spawn
I had 5 stealth and it worked
My character is stealth-based with crossbows. Which crafting skills do I need to make kick-ass bolts and crossbows? Should I bother with crafting?
>>321646743
craft ninja tabi boots + leather armor with a black cloth + black cloth balaclava
and if you've already done Depot A you can also craft yourself a cloaking deivce
Then, enter the room of the ambassador, and sneak to the ventilation shaft in the room of the deputy and use the bug
thats how i did it and i have zero stealth
might be you cant get good enough gear at this point of the game if you havent got the drill parts yet
Um. So I killed the beast with expose weakness / premeditation / TK fist.
Can the quest related to it still be completed? Caus what I'm reading shows I need to lure it out and do stuff like that. I just waltzed in and punched it out, a little tougher than Carnifex was, but still, kind of surprised it went down that easy.
>>321647263
wtf i thought killing the beast by combat was impossible
>>321647330
800 HP, and only decent armor once you Expose Weakness. TK proxy means I had an extra punch going, too, and I've got Combo and Pnumatic Hammer on my steel fists. I'm kind of dissapointed it was that easy.
>>321646974
Bolts can be made with Elec, Mech, Bio and Chem. Elec and Mech are the most useful overall.
Crossbows are just Mech
>>321647263
You can probably still complete the quest since it dies in a cutscene.
>That feeling when you cave some nigga's dome in with a sledgehammer for the first time
>That feeling when you light 6 Rathounds on fire with one pyrokinesis blast
God I love the combat in this game.
>>321635821
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2klLy8r8Ro
>>321634401
>>321634505
I'm probably the only one here, but I actually kind of like that there is no in game map.
It always gives me the feeling that veering off the beaten path is a little risky. I end up navigating by knowing which way is north and keeping track of where I came from, even started dropping useless loot by room entrances in one instance to mark where I had come from.
In general I haven't had any serious problems getting where I want to go just by navigating and going based on directions from NPCs.
>>321647130
>>321646935
I can't believe it was that easy. Now if only I could kill this last cheating bastard in the Arena.
I wish enemies had more death animations
They always just fall down in a puddle of blood
How about exploding to pieces, burning tho charcoal from electricity or flame, melting from plasma, getting cut in half by laser etc
the combat is hard as shit so actually killing your enemies is already extremely rewarding but proper variety in death animations would make it that much better
I was trying to sneak into the dock warehouse and failing when i thought of something
Why the fuck am i working for these assholes?
Seriously why?
Can i stop working for them?
Is there any reason why i shouldn't?
>>321647907
I just flashbanged the fucker, cut his throat and watched him bleed out.
>>321647907
Yeah, what is with the difficulty spike from the second to last to that guy? I swept through everyone else easily at level 15 and then he appeared and I had no chance against him.
I think I'd like to try a crossbow/throwing stealthy build. Is there a wiki or something where I can learn where the hell to put my points into? Because I've been playing around with the character creation screen for 15 minutes now and I'm just not sure what's important and what isn't.
>>321648453
Which assholes? Gorsky and the Zone Hunters?
>>321648557
literally google "underrail wiki"
>>321648557
http://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
http://youtu.be/mz3oWx1J1Lk
What shield is suited for psymonk? I got efficient medium, amplified medium, and conservative high shield emitters
>>321648557
The most important factor in your build are the feats.
Look which ones look supportive and try to fulfill the requirements.
If you fuck up really bad there's still cheat engine to fix mistakes.
>>321642391
>>321642353
>>321642097
If only it worked with my sledgehammer.
i cheated myself to 100 mechanics to fix the tunneler
fuck that shit, i ain't giving that faggot 2000 shekels to fix that shit
Is it impossible to plant the bomb for the black eels questline without lockpicking to enter the vents?
>>321648672
Yeah
Those assholes
It just occurred to me that i don't really know why i'm doing anything
>oh just take a pill for psy why not
>an hour later
>wait this decreases my hp by 25%
why the fuck didn't they tell me this
>>321648997
Crowbar them.
>>321649081
He did tell you about side effects on your health.
>>321649164
How the hell do I do that? There's no use or anything I've found that I can do with crowbars.
I also have shit strength.
>>321649320
He said my immune system could be damaged, how does that equal 25% of my health
Can't tell if I should bother restarting yet
>>321649405
Psi is more than worth it.
What's the level cap in this game?
>>321649498
But I made a stabby guy
I just bought this game because of you cunts, if I'm disappointed, I'm coming for each and every one of you.
>>321649550
Then yeah you should restart. The pill is specifically for psi characters.
Calling a game UnderRAIL just because of UnderTALE populairty
This is so sad
>>321649498
Fug, already got through the caves
>>321649550
Switch to fists, get TK to 45 for Force Effusion, and get a 35% damage proc on every swing at 4 AP. Then get it higher for TK Proxy which copies that proc. Then laugh at the fools relying on weapons.
>>321649609
If you're disappointed you're a retard and should kill yourself instead.
>>321649609
Should have pirated/played the demo first ya goober.
>>321642718
You can loot one if a Protectorate soldier dies during the attack on the Scrappers.
>>321649671
Rail has been in development since 2011. Hows it feel being retarded and or cheap bait?
>>321649706
I will but I'll be taking you with me.
>>321649725
Demos are for fags.
>>321649550
I'm a stabby guy, psi helps a lot.
Stunning enemies, frying robots, blocking off paths, adding extra damage on fists.
Phychokinesis is fantastic for that.
>>321649756
This is literally one and the same retard baiting without any success in every underrail thread. Ignore and he will fuck off.
>>321649516
>>321649516
>>321649516
>>321649516
This
was it ever increased from 20 or did that stay
>>321649320
>>321648997
There's one room filled with muties where the vent has no cover.
>>321648997
Since when do you need lockpicking to open vents?
Just get an omnitool.
>>321649815
Just gunna scrap my current guy and make a full on psionic
>>321650214
I think you have to have a certain amount of lock picking for it to be successful with an omnitool.
Not sure how much since my character always had high lockpicking anyway.
>>>321649815
You can get the pill in the first five seconds of the game, too, you dont need to do anything to get it
Okay, /v/, I have to talk to you. You're acting too nice towards this game. There can't possibly be any good games in 2015, right?
Convince me not to buy this game. Show me you're still the /v/ I remember.
So I'm instigating a gang war and I've decided to side with the Black Eels.
How the fuck do I keep their main nigga alive? He always dies on like the second turn.
>>321650702
Shit dialogue, takes forever to go from one fucking place to another, map design is balls to the walls bonkers at times, you constantly walk, the exploration is all about "exploring" zones with nothing in them aside from mushrooms, the start of the game is way too fucking difficult but the dev is the kind of faggot who goes "git gud :^)" when he gets any sort of criticism besides bug reports, I have 90 hours into the game and around 60 of them were spend walking between quests or zones trying to find my way back again because FUCK MAPS, AMIRITE?
>>321650903
Then let him die.
>>321648997
One of the vents should already be open.
>>321650974
No map system is one of the things that annoys me the most in the game. There isn't any logical reason not to have one either - presumably all major locations would map out their local areas.
>>321650903
Flashbangs.
The answer is always flashbangs.
>>321651183
>>321650974
>not drawing your own map on a piece of paper
>>321650702
You're a fucking retard
>>321650974
>I have 90 hours into the game and around 60 of them were spend walking
Scratch that, make it like 80 or something.
Also, no fast travel besides using trains or boats which while convinient also take forever to get to, social skills are a fucking joke, because you have no idea how high the skillchecks are and if you do invest into them you almost never pass them because fuck balancing I guess, pixel hunting in almost every zone, combat is too slow and you can't speed it up unless you use goddamn cheat engine with its speedhack command, no fucking map and if you try to make one yourself you're going to go apeshit because you never know if you are going up and down which fucks up handmade maps and makes it frustrating as fuck, the economy is hilariously broken and despite the dev trying to make it "hardcore" by limiting the amount of items merchants want you end up with a insane amount of money lategame, weapon balancing is off the charts and there is no way to see enemy resistances at all which is stupid as fuck since the game is supposed to be tactical but it fails miserably at this because everything Underrail's combat does XCOM does 10x better.
Let's not forget the Deep Caverns. Oh what a zone, what a lovely zone that looks fucking awesome and yet is completely ruined by the worst mechanic I've seen so far in a cRPG.
>>321650085
>hard level cap in a single player game
nice one devs
>>321651464
Great idea.
Aside from the fact there are multiple levels and sometimes you go one level below/up through a passage and sometimes 2 levels below/up and it's impossible to tell which is which so you end up adding say rooms from underrail caves layer to your under passages layer map making it a clusterfuck.
I don't mind drawing maps but here it's just annoying because of the lack of consistency.
>>321651687
>and yet is completely ruined by the worst mechanic I've seen so far in a cRPG
I havent played it, what is this?
jesus christ, fuck this game's font
i lowered my resolution just to make shit BARELY readable in fullscreen
font made for the tiny characters on screen
GOD DAMN WHY NOT JUST INCREASE THE FONT A LITTLE MORE, EXTRA LARGE OPTION
>>321635427
You can use cheat eng to move your stuff around. I didn't use the table they had on the site tho
>>321652298
There is a large font option though.
>>321652298
This is literally my only complaint about the game. I don't know what the fuck is going on with the font, there's no justification for what whatsoever.
>>321652736
Barely helps. Styg's idea of "large" is "slightly less likely to ruin your eyesight"
>no shotguns
WHAT
WHY
>>321652298
my problem is about the font choice, not the size
staked up lines of text in this font really melts my eyes
is there a way to change the whole game fonts? they are in a xnb extension
>>321651318
Holy shit, that made that fight amazingly easy.
Does anyone know if the loot ever naturaly disappears by itself? Way too much to collect at once, but at the same time I want every single piece of it.
should i spend my cash and get a galvanic bulletproof vest?
im currently wearing a pig skin overcoat and i cant decide that either i should buy a new gun or a anew armor
>>321653121
That... Hadn't even occurred to me. HOW did it not. But yeah, its a huge hole now that I think of it.
Probably because the dev is serbian and they dont have a tradition of shotguns over there.
How the fuck do I actually sneak up on these Hoppers? They seem me from a mile away and I can't net them.
>>321653121
>>321653221
Apparently he didn't put them in at the beginning and he wanted to go back and do it later but he couldn't because it would involve changing too much shit or something.
There are enough weapons anyway, it doesn't really matter.
>>321653334
Git gud at Stealth.
Or press enter to initiate combat.
my only wish is that they make a modding tool
cause this game got mad potential
>>321653197
No reason not to spend cash in this game, it's easy to get tons of it.
>>321653512
Isnt it a gamemaker game?
>>321653334
>stand next to hole
>wait until one comes out
>manually enter combat
>walk up to one and use cage on it
>>321653578
8/10, almost got me
This game needs a third defensive skill that heavy armor wearers can invest in, it's fucking stupid how both dodge and evasion are completely useless for me. Heavy armor isn't really even that good.
>>321652873
That's pretty large.
>>321653776
>>321653472
Oh hey fuck me.
>>321653953
Well it makes sense that someone with heavy ass armor can't dodge and evade or generally move very fast.
>>321653953
Go get super steel and enjoy. You don't need dodge or evasion with heavy armor anyways. With 10 str and con you are almost impossible to kill in it.
Bit of a retarded question, but how do I interpret the resistances on armour? What does, for example, "22% / 4" mean? Is it better than "22% / 15"?
Dex is for punchng, right?
>>321654104
Also wear tabi boots to make up for the drop in movement points.
>>321654326
Yeah, it reduces AP cost and boosts hit chance.
I intend to go way beyond 10.
>>321653875
Yeah, I just verified. It is. I'm not familiar with it as an engine, but doesnt that allow people to unpack and create assets that way?
>>321654326
I fucking hope not, I'm already level 4 with this guy.
>>321654562
Fuck me. Melee weapons it is, then.
>>321654326
11 drops ap cost for unarmed by 1
12 drops ap cost for leather gloves by 1
dont know about metal gloves
>>321654518
Boot springs propably better for heavy armorers, no?
>>321654659
Dex is also for knives.
Fucking hell that game is boring as fuck. The lack of map alone is inexcusable.
>Decide to to go through the vents to steal the Shield Emitters shipment.
>Get absolutely destroyed by crawlers
Jesus.
>>321654768
With 14 dex my metal gloves cost 7 AP with tabi on, and lightning punches. Taste For Blood can get them down to 6, I havnet had a chance to see if 10 stacks bring it to 5
How do i start working for the black eels?
I got the drill parts ages ago via the scrappers way and didn't even know about the back route
>>321654814
>All I have is knives
If I make a psi combat oriented guy should I use classic XP? is it faster?
>>321654972
If you already helped the Scrappers, I don't think you can. The breaking point is when you eithertell them about the wormholeorkill Blaine
>>321655131
No one should ever use classic XP, it's for fags
Just gonna outright say it. I don't like this game. Not enough skill points to do what I want because there are too many must have skills.
I don't want to craft shit, but apparently it's needed to get gear for a Psi character.
Where can I find a big concentration of psi beetles? I'm trying to hunt for a good quality carapace
I've already killed the ones in the mushroom cove and silent isle but they dropped shit
>>321655259
Shit
I've done neither though
They don't even acknowledge it
I can't ask colton about the old junkyard
Am i just fucked?
>>321655321
>Not enough skill points to do what I want because there are too many must have skills.
Its just like real life though
Do I take pasquale's red pill as a psi character?
>>321655913
Yes
>>321656007
so that "weakening of the immune system" isn't too big of a problem in the long run? Or is that alternative "I'll do it the old fashioned way" not actually an option?
>>321655913
Take it anyway. There is literally no reason not to take it.
>>321656198
It's permanent -25% health, it's a drawback you need to live with if you want PSI.
>The only Psi beneficial armor is a heavy set
Whoever designed this game is a fucking retard.
if i store loot in a random barrel at core city for example, will it stay there or disappear?
>>321655321
There are no "must have" skills and no you don't need to craft your own gear.
Stop being a min maxing faggot who wants to be able to do everything and be the best at everything, it'an RPG, not Fallout 4.
>>321656198
You have to take it to get PSI abilities. You lose 25% max HP as a tradeoff for them. It's worth it.
>>321656402
The psi armors are medium not heavy, don't know what you are smoking.
>>321651886
You get adebuff that reduces your combat stats every 5 seconds (or per turn in combat), and once you get 20 stacks, enemies will spawn across the map. These are elite enemies, and they only despawn once the debuff on you is gone. Killing them is not a solution, since they respawn all over the map faster than you can you kill them The debuff lasts for 50 seconds so you can wait it out at certain predesigned areas which happens to be small bunkers spread over the map, but as long as you are on the surface so to speak, it gets applied on you every 5 seconds.Certain objects can only be used while out of combat, such as ladders, but this can become a death trap because of said mechanic. Those safe-zones are few and far between, and if you get stuck in combat in some locations you are literally stuck since you cannot use ladders to exit the area, and you cannot finish combat because enemies keep respawning faster than you can kill them.
>tfw can't get bilocation because i went the scrapper route to get into depot A and now can't join the black eels
This is some serious fucking horseshit
I don't even want to play anymore
>>321656340
>>321656493
Huh, I never knew that. I took it anyway, even though I'm a combat oriented character and never used psi. Maybe that's why I've been finding certain areas so difficult.
>>321656402
>what are psi headbands
>what are psi beetle carapaces
No Anon, you are a fucking retard.
>>321656726
What? I went with the scrappers and was able to ask the ferryman to take me there. Try asking the barkeep about rumors until he tells you about the island then go and see the ferryman again
>>321656474
Why is there always some nigger in these threads that brings up fallout whenever somebody mentions one of the many flaws that this piece of shit game has?
Speaking of fallout, the first two are factually better than this because they don't literally require you to take lockpicking/hacking/4 crafting skills/persuasion and intimidation to see most of the games content.
It's the reason why I dropped the game and now I just sit in these threads explaining why it's dog shit.
>>321656772
Psi beetle carapaces are for heavy armor you enormous fucking retard.
>>321656461
Stay. No container ever resets mate. Store away. I store my shit in a dumpster in Junkyard. I also store uniques in my room back in SGS.
>>321637721
>wanted to do stealth / crossbow sneak faggot
>thought perception is great dumped a lot of points into it
Oh well, can I edit my character or do I have to start over?
>>321656737
Well part of the reason you're finding some areas difficult is that it's a challenging game, but yeah, if you're not using PSI abilities at all then you gave yourself a handicap for no reason.
>>321656474
Yes, you do need to craft your own gear if you want Psi beneficial armor.
The only piece that you can find in the store is the psi headband. Everything else is craft only.
>>321656917
Oh
That worked
Thanks!
So how badly does the armour penalty affect your dodge/evasion? If I have 65 dodge/evasion and and a 65% armour penalty, does that set my dodge/evasion to 0?
Is the Ambush feat any good or is it too situational?
>>321657074
You are retarded, none of those are required to "see most of the game's content" and persuasion/intimidation are rarely even useful.
Speech in Fallout 1/2 opens up a ridiculous number of options that you wouldn't have otherwise and there is a ton of content especially in Fallout 2 that you don't see unless you take certain other skills like science or medicine.
it must really suck to be so stupid you can't enjoy a great RPG.
In final arena now. holy shit, I cant even survive till my turn and i have to watch that cutscene all over again that drains my shields to half
>>321657117
Yeah, I really fucking dun goof'd there. But I made it through the Depot without breaking my keyboard, so I think I'll be okay as long as I don't fuck up my build too badly.
>>321657114
Perception also helps you hit people with your crossbow.
>>321657343
65% of 65
>>321657492
I'm sure you can still complete the game without any major problems, it's challenging but not that bad.
I have a minimum con character myself who relies on dodging and sneaking, works fine.
Ok fuck trying to steal this shield shipment. That one damn worker always spots me. Time to burn them all.
what's the best place to buy schematics? I'm looking for the recycling one specifically
>>321657737
git gud at sneaking.
You can find equipment that will boost your sneaking too including cloaking devices.
>>321657740
I saw the recycling one in railway crossing.
>>321657074
>Why is there always some nigger in these threads that brings up fallout whenever somebody mentions one of the many flaws that this piece of shit game has?
Because they are not flaws, these are the design choices that make it possible to play a certain role in the game.
I'm glad the dev doesn't catter to min maxing faggots like you.
>Speaking of fallout, the first two are factually better than this because they don't literally require you to take lockpicking/hacking/4 crafting skills/persuasion and intimidation to see most of the games content.
Good luck ssing all the content without lockpicking/persuasion in Fallout 1/2, not to mention low INT runs.
>Psi beetle carapaces are for heavy armor you enormous fucking retard.
Not only you gigantic retard.
>>321657479
It autosaves right before the combat starts.
Is pyromaniac any good?
>>321657219
No you don't.
This is a problem with min maxers. You don't fucking need anything. You don't need to open every container, you don't need to win every fight, you don't need to clear every area clean and you don't have to get the optimal bonuses on every item.
>>321657404
Are you that same faggot from yesterday who went full damage control mode when I called out how imbalanced robots are for 90% of builds in this game?
>it must really suck to be so stupid you can't enjoy a great RPG.
I can enjoy them, which is why I'm in the process of playing through Icewind Dale 2 again.
This isn't anywhere close to being a great RPG.
>>321657921
>I'm glad the dev doesn't catter to min maxing faggots like you.
The game literally is all about min maxing though you colossal cunt. That's the problem.
>Good luck ssing all the content without lockpicking/persuasion in Fallout 1/2, not to mention low INT runs.
Fallout 1&2 give you a ton of options to complete various tasks. If you can't talk your way out of it, then you can sneak in, if you can't sneak in then you can force your way in.
In this game, if you can't lockpick a certain door, you can't get in. No way to break the door down, no keys to find. Nothing.
>Not only you gigantic retard.
Except it is. They're for tactical vests and riot gear. Both are too heavy to make use on for most Psi characters.
Face it, this game is trash. You are literally forced to get 4 crafting skills just to make 1 set of gear for your character.
>Need biology and electronics to create a psi headband
>Need mechanics and tailoring to create HEAVY psi armor
The guy who designed this is a fucking moron.
>>321658539
>The guy who designed this is a fucking moron.
Different anon, but could it be that the early access reviews got deleted when Underrail left early access?
I can only find reviews from december but im 90% sure I saw this game at the start of this year with mixed reviews, rather than very positive, because it was so clunky, had next to no content even for an early access game and was riddled with bugs.
>>321658402
>>321657921
>underrail
>not minmax to the max
yeah good luck with making a character with balanced ability scores. it's not like you need a 10 in one or two attributes with a 3 in everything else in order to succeed or anything :^)
>>321658539
>when I called out how imbalanced robots are for 90% of builds in this game?
What builds are those? Because i honestly can't think of a build that can't just walk up to them and throw an EMP grenade at their feet if it doesn't have any other way of dealing with them.
>>321658929
Full Thought Control build, Stealthy Knife build, Full metathermics build, the list goes on. A sledgehammer build could theoretically deal with them if sledgehammer builds weren't broken to the point that you can't move with heavy armor equipped.
As I said yesterday, bots come in 3s, all of which are spread out enough so that a grenade will never ever hit more than 1. It takes 3 EMP's to kill 1 robot, so it can effectively take 9 EMP grenades to deal with a room full of bots.
Add that to the fact that a build that doesn't rely on throwing will miss 90% of their throws.
Why there isn't a way to hack a terminal to shut the bots down is beyond me.
>>321658539
> I called out how imbalanced robots are for 90% of builds in this game?
Wow, God forbid some builds have a hard time with specific types of enemies.
It's almost like there is some kind of variation in both builds and enemy types.
>The game literally is all about min maxing though
Not it's not. Go back to Diablo, ARPGs are clearly more suited to your min macing needs.
>
In this game, if you can't lockpick a certain door, you can't get in. No way to break the door down, no keys to find. Nothing.
>what are ventialation shafts
>what are destructable walls
>what are keys
Let me guess, you played for 1 hour?
There is also lots of loot you can't get without lockpicking in Fallout, and evey major quest in Underrail can be done in multiple ways.
>They're for tactical vests and riot gear. Both are too heavy to make use on for most Psi characters.
>tactical vest
>too heavy
Good one.
>Face it, this game is trash. You are literally forced to get 4 crafting skills just to make 1 set of gear for your character.
You are not. Having optimal gear is not the point of the game, fuck off with that shit, it's a roleplaying game.
I swear minmaxing fags are the worst.
Just killed all the burrowers at the GMS.
Christ, that was intense.
Sadly, the loot there fucking sucked.
>>321659786
>>what are destructable walls
not him but is that really a thing?
how do i do that?
>>321659650
>Full Thought Control build
There's no such thing.
If you take a Thought Control alone you have more than enough points to dual-spec.
Same with methathermics.
And you better think again before talking about knives retard, because crit knife build is one of the easiest ways to fuck robots up.
>>321659650
Stealthy knife build here, I can deal with robots just fine. Even with regular non-electric knives (which demolish them within a couple of stikes) since crits seem to ignore the armor and deal massive damage. Not to mention that I can just EMP and spint aswell.
>>321659650
>Stealthy Knife build
My dodge/evasion is so high that they barely hit me most of the time, and my crits rekt their armour. I don't even try to avoid them anymore, I just sneak up to them and just start slashing them.
>>321657074
>heavy armor
>~40 equip load
>in a game where it goes to 100 on armors alone
W E W
E
W
>>321658826
I have no stat lower than 5. Get fucked, not everyone is a minmaxer.
>>321659650
>Full Thought Control build
>make a build that can't deal with anything that doesn't have a brain
>complain that robots are unbalanced
Whar next, are you going to complain about your melee 3 STR 3 DEX 3 CON build being shit? Cry more.
>Why there isn't a way to hack a terminal to shut the bots down is beyond me.
There is in most places, play the fucking game.
>>321659946
Some walls can be blowed up with TNT. They will be highlighted and visibly damaged.
>>321659946
Only certain specific walls, you can blow them up or use a jackhammer just like the boulders that block your path in some areas.
>>321659786
>Some builds
Loving every laugh. Try the majority of builds. EMP is the only effective way to deal with them because apparently they're made of titanium.
They hard counter any Psi build that isn't Psychokinesis.
>what are ventialation shafts
Need lockpicks, which defeats the whole fucking purpose of not being able to open a door because you didn't take lockpicking.
>what are destructable walls
Few and far between. I've seen two and I made it up to Core City.
>what are keys
Keys for MAIN areas that you HAVE to go to.
You are grasping so hard right now that it's honestly palpable.
Tactical Vest is heavy, yes. I expect my Psi character to wear robes, not some heavy as fuck military armor.
>You are not.
Yes you are. Feel free to tell me what purchasable Psi armor I can buy that isn't craft only. I'll wait.
Psi Headband is literally the only thing you can buy. The rest is CRAFT ONLY.
>>321660258
>There is in most places, play the fucking game.
Except there isn't in any place. Play the game yourself. Those terminals shut down turrets, not bots.
>>321660823
>I expect my Psi character to wear robes
How does it feels to be blown out this hard faggote?
>>321661242
>How does it feels to be blown out this hard faggote?
I wouldn't know, considering you cannot buy them.
>>321660823
There are ventilation shafts you can open without lockpicking skills either using an omni-tool or a crowbar.
You're right: there are SOME areas in the game that you can only get to by using lock picking.
My character snuck past robots until I got strong enough guns that I was able to kill them with guns even though it's far from optimal.
The design philosophy is that you should not be able to do everything in the game with every build, and it's a good one. Sorry if this bothers you but it sounds like this kind of RPG, where your character build choices actually have drawbacks as well as strengths and you will need to play multiple times to explore all the content it has to offer, are not for you.
You'd probably be more into something like, say, Dragon Age: Inquisition or Skyrim.
>>321642556
The blueprints and parts show up after the drill motherboard quest is complete
>>321660823
>EMP is the only effective way to deal with them because apparently they're made of titanium.
Kek, literally git gud.
Actually, it applies to all of your posts. Instead of complaining that the game is unbalanced, try to make something that works. "Balance" doesn't mean your idiotic builds need to be the best at everything.
>I expect my Psi character to wear robes, not some heavy as fuck military armor.
And this is exactly what I'm talking about. No one gives a fuck about your idiotic ideas, a robe is just a piece of cloth. It makes literally no sense for it to be better than lighweight armor, unless you don't care about armor at all.
>Yes you are.
No you are not.
I made builds without any crafting skills and they were doing just fine.
Yes, if you want top notch gear, you will want to invest in all crafting skills and you won't be able to do other things like builds that do not care about top notch everything. Big fucking surprise.
>>321658032
not for this fight. I had to flashbang him and force out of combat to save
>>321661909
At this point I think we're arguing with Todd Howard.
I'm surprised he hasn't claimed that the game sucks because something awesome doesn't happen every time you press a button by now.
>>321661464
Omni-tool is literally a fancy lockpick.
Crowbar requires a certain Str score.
>The design philosophy is that you should not be able to do everything in the game with every build
What a load of shit. The design philosophy of this game is that you cannot do anything in the game with any build.
My character has, literally, 1 combat skill and the rest in utility and he still cannot get anything done because of the piss poor crafting system taking up 4 fucking skill points.
A smart game would have made it so that as a Psi character, tailoring is all that's needed. TADA, I've just fixed the fucking game by using nothing more than common sense.
Why the fuck do I need mechanics to make a set of Psi gear?
Why do I need BIOLOGY OF ALL THINGS TO MAKE A FUCKING PSI HEADBAND?
>>321661909
There is no balance in the game. Crafting is 100% required.
Half of the other skills are useless.
>B-b-b-b-but your builds don't work
Yeah, Psi builds sure as hell don't work, which begs the question, why did the retarded dev that you're trying your best to ass kiss even bother to put it into the game?
Your posts are cringe worth at this point.
>>321662762
My character has no crafting skills and has not crafted anything and I'm much farther in the game than you got to.
There are some vents which can be opened with an omni-tool even if you have no lockpicking, giving another way to access some areas as an alternative to lock picking or hacking.
Other areas have keys. Others have destructible walls. Some have no way in but lock picking so some characters won't get in.
This is how it should be, and you're stupid.
wheres the Electrokinetic Imprint mentor? I found the tele proxy but not this.
I bought the game and already tried 3 times but I still can't get past the stats allocation screen, it just gets too boring and I give up.
Got a build I can just plug in so I can skip this?
>>321663146
why are you playing an rpg
>>321663361
Had no idea it was one
>>321662762
>Crafting is 100% required.
Wrong, finished the game up to the Deep Caverns without any crafting.
Psi builds work, ask abyone who play with them. Really Anon, you are the only person so shit at the game that you can't manage even with all crafting skills.
Actually, it's possible to finish the whole game without any fights if you invest into all the talking skills and stealth.
>>321663407
>has no idea what kind of game a game is
>pays money for it
Why
>>321663889
still got time to refund
so got that build?
How do i free Maura?
>>321663031
Then you aren't playing a Psi character, because it's required to have 4 crafting skills just to be able to build a simple set of armor since you cannot buy any at ANY point in the game.
>There are some vents which can be opened with an omni-tool even if you have no lockpicking
Again, some. I've seen what? 1 Vent that allows my uninvested character to get in.
I love the way you're trying to imply that places you can get into that require lockpicking only are few and far between, but that isn't the case. That's literally something that happens 90% of the time. Only rarely is there another way into a room that requires a lockpick.
>>321663941
if you don't have lockpicking 80 you need to go into the bottom left room and pick pocket the guy or kill everybody
>>321663990
>Then you aren't playing a Psi character
>if you don't play exactly like I do by taking all 4 crafting skills you are not playing a psi build
Kek, I thinkk it's time to stop posting.
He just isn't a minmaxing fag like you are Anon, it's that simple.
>>321663930
Look buddy I hate to break this to you but if you don't like coming up with your own character build and messing around with stats you're not going to like this game.
How you play the game and what you have access to is going to change completely depending on what kind of build you choose. Do you want to use ranged or melee, do you want to sneak, do you want to be able to persuade people of things in conversation, do you want to craft items yourself or buy them, do you want psychic powers or not? etc.
Choosing this stuff is the entire point of the game. You're in the wrong place.
>>321663941
Abram questline is sort of exclusive for sneaky chars.
So either pick the lock or pickpocket a key.
>stealthily kill every single on of those bandit scum
>nobody had the chance to see me
>suddenly this happens
This is pure bullshit.
>>321663786
Ask anyone who plays them?
Tip
Top
Kek
These threads have been filled with people calling Psi only builds out on being hot garbage, or is that just another thing you've been oblivious to?
Also
>Dropping a game that you find to be literal trash is now the same as being unable to finish it
I got news for you, this RPG isn't some magically hard game. Icewind Dale 2 is much harder, for example. Notoriously so. The goblin fort section is thrice as difficult as this games hardest section (Depot A) and unlike this game, Icewind Dale 2 continues to stay challenging after that point.
>>321664354
>Game forces you to take 4 crafting skills to build any armor at all for a certain class since stores don't sell any equipment for said class
>Calls me a min maxer for taking them.
Love this meme desu.
The damage control in here is absolutely beautiful.
>N-n-n-n-no it's your fault, not the games!
>>321664354
Actually, he is right that I am not playing a PSI build.
He didn't say he was only talking about PSI builds in the post I was responding to though.
I haven't played a PSI character yet so I don't know if it's true you need all 4 crafting skills to make the armor, but I'm having trouble understanding why that is so horrible if it is. There are 25 levels in the game, that's a lot of points to put into skills.
>>321664715
The game doesn't force you to do anything, you seem to have a really hard time understanding this.
>>321664478
Melee rather than ranged but yes to all the others. How do I do that?
>>321661485
Yeah, just completed it. I have a sniper, an AR and now a shield too. Feels badass. Moving to core city now.
>>321664715
Literally no one was calling psi bad, the fuck are you talking about?
If anything it was full of people wrecking shit with billocation, proxy and locus od control.
What is best faction and why?
>>321664789
Check it yourself, you'll see that I'm right.
To make the armor itself you need Tailoring, of course. To add the Psi Beetle Carapaces (To actually make said armor be beneficial towards your Psi skills) requires Mechanics and Biology.
Since you've already invested in 3 crafting skills for 1 piece of armor, you might as well invest into biology to make a better Psi Headband.
>>321665013
Look nigger, 1 line, irrelevant posts just prove that you understand that you're losing this argument, so do yourself a favor and either debate me properly, or be quiet because as I said, this is getting embarrassing. You're replying for the sake of replying at this point.
>>321662762
>Psi builds sure as hell don't work
I'm laughing so hard at you right now nigger.
>tfw you lose an hour of progress because you accidentally click a red door and you forgot to save
>>321665461
No, I'm replaying necause you really don't seem to realize people are making builds without all 4 crafting skills and doing fine.
Tou don't need to craft everything.
>>321665415
BLACK EELS FOR LIFE
>>321665045
You can't specialize in all of those things and have a good build. That's the point.
>>321665537
>Clearly has unarmed
>Clearly using multiple Psi schools
No nigger, I am laughing so hard at you right now.
Holy fucking shit, my sides have evaporated.
I can't win any beginners encounter even when dumping all attribute points in fighting attributes, this game is shit.
>>321665835
>not using multiple psi schools on psi build or having a secondary combat skill
You are the special kind of retard, i see.
>>321665537
But Anon, didn't you read his post?
It's not a psi build if don't take all the crafting skills like he does.
I think that Anon is right, the game is ubalanced as hell. I made an EMP grenade build but those things do absolutely no damage to 90% of the enemies. Shit game.
>>321665579
Uh, did you fail to notice the existence of the autosave?
>>321665835
>my special snowflake builds don't work
Hows that 3 STR 3 DEX 3 CON 10 INT/WILL sledgehammer/heavy armor treating you Anon?
>>321666017
>I made an EMP grenade build but those things do absolutely no damage to 90% of the enemies. Shit game.
>this thread right now
>>321665727
>Mfw I blow you the fuck out so hard that you can't even spell properly any more.
Like pottery, to be honest.
>>321665941
>Game forces you to take all Psi skills AND an extra combat skill
>Apologists like this guy defend the game for being balanced
Where oh where did I leave my sides this time?
That's like me wanting to play a fire mage, but no, the game forces me to take ice, wind and earth magic too.
That is not balanced at all. Specializing in certain things is one of the most basic core aspects of an RPG.
You don't see a Paladin pulling out a gun to deal with ranged enemies.
>>321666292
Who knows, but my 10 Will Psi character sure as hell doesn't work :^)
>>321666443
Strange, my does. No one else has any problems either.
Might be you are just shit.
>>321666017
>I made an EMP grenade build but those things do absolutely no damage to 90% of the enemies
I'm inclined to agree with guy. Psi feels lackluster against more than just robot enemies.
>>321666735
No need to samefag so hard.
>>321666201
you mean the option that's off by default?
>>321666443
>spelling
On the phone. Nice argument though, sure makes me think you are not a retard anymore.
>>321666817
Calm your paranoia, anon. Give me an example build for a Metathermics character.
>>321666413
I really need to get in motion.
>>321666443
>You don't see a Paladin pulling out a gun to deal with ranged enemies.
Even Keldorn, a token BG2 paladin, had a backup crossbow when he joins your party alongside 2 proficiency points in them.
>>321667042
Give me an example build for an EMP character.
Jesus fuck, why i wasn't using tasers before?
>close range stun for just 10 AP
>can be crafted really early
>works on robots
Can anyone post that beginner's guide photo for this game? I just started and I would like some tips.
Thanks.
>>321666603
Besides 90% of the thread? If there's ever any talk about Psi, it's about how shit it is. Never the opposite. These threads are just proof of that.
>>321666817
Look at this retard. My thought control build might not work ingame, but it's sure as hell working here.
I guess 90% of the thread is also me, since they agree that Psi is absolute trash and was shoehorned into the game without any proper testing.
>>321666927
>Typing on a phone automatically makes you spell like a toddler.
That's not how it works. Proof read your shit. I don't want to decode every autistic sentence you respond back to me with.
>>321667373
I know right?
Literally a godsend against dogs and such.
>>321667445
Already been posted ITT.
I kind of want to get into this game.
Is it viable to be like... a huge, heavily-armored brawler with a sledgehammer that uses Psi skills to light shit on fire?
Or am I better off just going full ninja?
Age of decadence is better lads
>>321667568
damn, i could've sworn it wasn't here after scrolling 3 times, thanks
>>321667478
>Besides 90% of the thread?
You are not 90% of the thread Anon.
Must be your imagination because almost everyone finds psi to be OP.
>>321667686
You could definitely create that build, yes.
Don't listen to 4 CRAFTING SKILLS MANDATORY faggot.
>>321667686
Heavy psi melee is possible and even has skill synergy.
Hell, you can make Armstrong build with ALL his abilities including his pyromantic skills.
Coretech, Praetorian Security or JKK?
>>321662762
>Why the fuck do I need mechanics to make a set of Psi gear?
I don't even play this game but I don't see how being a good tailor would make an outfit that lets you have better mind magic.
You need shit to enhance your brain.
>Why do I need BIOLOGY OF ALL THINGS TO MAKE A FUCKING PSI HEADBAND?
Probably to have enough knowledge of the brain to know how to enhance it?
help, where is the electrokinetic imprint skill?
Damnit, how do you effectively mitigate psi-damage?
I'm getting shat on anytime I want to fight a group of enemies with more than one psi in it, because they do crazy damage and always stun me.
>>321668221
Somewhere in Depot A.
>>321668221
Doesn't the martial artist in SGS teach you this?
I remember it being one of my earliest skills.
>>321668073
JKK for stealth.
Secutiry for combat.
Coretech for I have no idea.
>>321668368
You can mitigate damage, but high CON/Will helps with stuns.
There is a 10 CON perk that make it so you lose 15 AP instead of being stuned/incapicated.
>>321667753
Nobody finds Psi to be OP, and 90% of the thread is 90% of the thread.
Unless you think you and your fellow dev ass kissing apologist friend are the majority here.
>>321668153
>I don't even play this game but
You do play the game, so let's not start with a lie.
>I don't see how being a good tailor would make an outfit that lets you have better mind magic.
What does that have to do with mechanics? Why would you need mechanics to sew a fucking carapace onto some clothing? That is literally tailoring.
>Probably to have enough knowledge of the brain to know how to enhance it?
Retarded reasoning. Do you need to be a doctor to create armor for people in the military?
>>321668590
>10 CON perk
Welp, that ain't happening. I'm not playing a psi character so I left my will/con at 5/5. I'm dreading walking into a fight with like 6 psi guys.
>>321668639
People don't complain about psi, stop fucking lying. These threads are full of Anons posting psi build screens, and this one is no an exception.
Are there some recommended items I should buy in the station at the start of the game?
>>321668907
> I'm dreading walking into a fight with like 6 psi guys.
We all do. At least it's easy to kill them, so try to off them first. Same goes for crossbow users with shocking bolts.
>still looking for the drill parts in the junkyard
sufferingwhen will the game get open world?
>>321668907
Use hit&run tactics with traps.
You don't need points in traps for beartraps for example.
As a stealthy guy I mostly kill cut-throat one guy, flashbang and rehide.
If it's only 3 people I don't even need that since I can stun them all in 1 turn and finish off one by one on the 2nd and 3rd.
>>321669324
Literally after you find the drill parts and bring them back.
>>321668907
>mfw locus of control - psi-cognitive interruption
I can fry an entire army of shitty lunatics who dare to bare their fangs on psionic god.
Them naming this game Underrail to trick people who wanted Undertale into buying it is as funny as StoneHearth. Weird that there seems to be a legit game behind this idiotic marketing con.
>>321669021
People do complain about Psi and this thread is full of it.
Wow some anon posted a screenshot of him early in the game with a hybrid psi character that has unarmed too, guess that means it isn't complete fucking trash then!
I cannot wait for threads about this game to stop showing up in a weeks time.
The game bombed on steam because it's absolute dog shit. The reviews mention the awful balancing.
But nope, because 3 people in this thread (Who are no doubt shills, which wouldn't surprise me consider you guys aren't even well versed on the English language, just like the dev) claim that it's balanced, I guess it must be.
Let's just ignore everybody else complaining about their builds crumbling at Depot A because apparently balancing is too difficult.
Since we're talking about Psi, just how good is Locus of Control? Just took it as a feat because it seemed by far the best, at least on paper.
>Grants immunity/removes Fear, Stun, Mind Control for 3 turns
>While active, any Thought Control gains AoE ability
Doppelgangers for everyone! Yallah!
>>321669514
This bait is getting understale, son.
Make something new.
If you had to take one psi ability to compliment a sneaky melee build which would it be?
>>321668639
>Why would you need mechanics to sew a fucking carapace onto some clothing? That is literally tailoring.
It also includes the preparation and processing.
I fucking hope you stay away from any engineering studies Anon.
> Do you need to be a doctor to create armor for people in the military?
I sure as fuck wouldn't wear any armor designed by a man with no idea about terminal ballistics, human anatomy and materials science, not even if you paid me.
Seriously, stay away from any studies. You don't have any idea about how things are made.
>>321669673
Psychokinesis without a second thought.
More for utility than damage dealing, well except if you go for fist weapons/unarmed since there's a buff which increases their damage.
>>321669648
>just how good is Locus of Control
Extremely.
It enables some insane shenanigans like mass psi drain or shadow clone army.
>>321669514
>"Development of this game has been one interesting 7 year adventure for me." -styg
BTFO
>>321669665
What are you talking about?
>Ctrl F Undertale
>other people have pointed the same thing out
Oh, wow. You actually think I was baiting? Just popped in to comment, because I had a laugh the day it was added to Steam. I always point out the soundalikes to my friends, because it's a hilarious pathetic marketing tactic, like the Chinese knockoffs of Steam.
>>321669903
>all games are named from the first day of development
Naw son.
>>321669914
Well if you really are that stupid, this game here was called like this since 2011, when that toby faggot was still in elementary school.
>>321670032
the game was named in 2010
get rekt son
>>321669606
>Wow some anon posted a screenshot of him early in the game with a hybrid psi character that has unarmed too, guess that means it isn't complete fucking trash then!
There is no "pure" builds. Every build needs to have a secondary weapon because everything has its weaknesses.
>Let's just ignore everybody else complaining about their builds crumbling at Depot A because apparently balancing is too difficult.
Depot A is mildly difficult, not unbalanced.
Git gud is all I have to say, you don't even need to bother replaying with more of your "b-but I want to thought control robots and have all the skills" bullshit. No one has of the problems that you do, threads are full of successful psi builds, people are discussing how OP psi enemies and Locus of Control is right fucking now.
>>321669850
You just get one shot tho, right? Then it goes into cooldown for like half an hour. Not that I'm complaining mind, just thinking of all the wonderful possibilities.
is a unarmed only build viable?
is it worth to level up all 3 psy skills at the same time? im going full caster/fists kinda build, and i dunno if stat wise is a wise choice, everything else levels up so slowly
>>321670313
>You just get one shot tho, right? Then it goes into cooldown for like half an hour.
It's already OP, short cooldown would make it broken.
>>321670330
Yes but much better as a psychic monk
is this game good? i've been in the mood for an rpg but i've heard poe is a trainwreck and nothing else caught my eye
>>321670357
2 is optimal, but 3 won't hurt you either. Every psi skill has something to offer.
>>321670330
Yes. You have gloves. Also, the final boss of the arena is unarmed. And he's a shitstain.
Reminder tho that unlike some of the autists in this thread, you should expect it to solve EVERY problem.
Can you purchase TNT charges in the Junkyard? I assumed you could, but I can't find any anywhere
>>321670432
I was just thinking about combining Mental Breakdown with Bilocation, ya dig? But if I only get one shot, that's a no-no. Oh well.
How do I get that Sarine bitch to the Rathound King?
>>321670549
>>321670549
>should
*shouldn't. Big difference.
>>321670503
yes
>>321669914
Underrail has been around longer. Both games are great. Kill yourself you attention seeking faggot.
>>321670694
Both are pretty OP on their own as an AoE.
Mass Bilocation is just nuts.
>>321670712
Stun/ incapacitate.Don't do it, why would you even consider it
>>321669698
You are quite literally a moron.
We are not talking about the designer of said armor. We are talking about the person who produces it.
The person who crafts that armor will have no idea about any of that shit, other than the basics.
Now let's translate that into the game world.
You get blueprints, aka the design of what you're trying to create. All you're doing is effectively putting it together.
Refrain from trying to sound intelligent if you don't have a clue what you're talking about in the future. It will save you from these no doubt embarrassing moments.
>>321670271
>There is no "pure" builds. Every build needs to have a secondary weapon because everything has its weaknesses.
So you finally admit the dog shit balance the game has. Nobody wants to have to resort to using ranged if they're melee, and vice versa. That is awful game design, plain and simple.
Specialized characters have been a thing since the dawn of RPG's, and they've remained a thing because they work so incredibly well.
Your jack of all trades game is trash because of this.
As for Depot A, it's unbalanced. It is hours into the game and some builds are flat out incapable of getting past it, and no, before you run your mouth any more, I have made it past it with every one of my characters. As I said earlier, I dropped the game at Core City.
>>321670503
It's addicting as fuck, and has assloads of content.
Basically FO1\2 with more better combat\exploration and less story. Grab it pronto
>>321670974
Because I want to see the "strong womyn" broken by Conan dick?
When I stun her the whole town attacks me. Is there a way to quietly get her over there with them being none the wiser?
>>321670503
Pirate it. It's an unbalanced mess and you'll quickly realize that after the novelty of the game wears off.
>>321670503
PoE isn't a trainwreck at all but it isn't great.
This game is great.
>>321670975
>All you're doing is effectively putting it together.
No, you are also processing raw components and utilizing certain knowledge to put those things together.
I sure as hell woudn't use a headband that fucks with my brain made by someone who has no idea about neurology, or an metal armor made by someone who has no idea how to make a proper weld.
I reccomend you take your own advice.
>>321670975
>Nobody wants to have to resort to using ranged if they're melee
>>321667180
>>321670503
It's okay, but be weary of the shills here claiming it's the greatest thing ever otherwise you'll be disappointed.
>>321671149
You need to get her out of her house somehow.
>>321670975
>Specialized characters have been a thing since the dawn of RPG's, and they've remained a thing because they work so incredibly well.
Turns out they don't when something is difficult and enemies take advantage of your weaknesses.
>annihilating a giant burrower nest while chilling in nearly unbreakable suit of armor
this game
>>321670802
>>321671145
>>321671390
thanks bros
>>321671869
Shame you can't pilot it some more after that.
>windows only
>>321671889
>Only thanked the people who said to buy it
>Ignored people who said he shouldn't.
Yep, classic shill tactics. I'm out. Not going to bump these threads anymore.
Is there a way to force the game to click on an enemy or is it just "haw haw the dog's by a door can't hit him"
>>321671987
Game has a great modding potential.
>pets for every build starting with some eldritch horror from deep caves for psi and ending with robots for mad scientists
>personal mecha you can pilot and upgrade
>>321672167
yeah, the shills saying its shit without providing a reason as to why
smart
>>321672002
>playing games on linux
>>321672176
tab and z
>no cool stalker armor
I'm still mad.
They've even got a portrait with it but you can't wear it.
>>321672167
Kek, you are literally crying at that point.
Fuck off then, it's for the better.
>>321672440
Full riot gear or metal armor suit is pretty close.
>>321672440
http://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Chemical_Assault_Unit_Armor
>>321672264
>not playing games on a superior operating system
>>321672501
Steel armor and riot armor is cool and all, but it doesn't look anything like the overcoat + gas mask.
>>321672584
I wonder if there's a way to craft this and use psi beetle parts, this looks awesome.
>>321672819
Nope, it's unique and the only way to get it is to do the Protectorate questline and fail the last quest by kliing the Chemical Assault Team.
>>321672002
Use wine you idiot.
>tfw the gangsters in Core City are absolutely reking my shit
I feel too underleveled for this
>>321673387
flashbangs are the answear
>>321673387
They are pretty tough if you let them act first.
>>321673387
I remember just toying with them on pure psi, shit was fun.
>Guy with a gun does maybe 5 damage per hit
>Random dog does 8+ damage per hit, more if there are multiple dogs, and inflicts a status effect that reduces your AP
>Also they have ludicrous evasion
This is some fucking horseshit.
>>321673869
>Guy with a gun does maybe 5 damage per hit
Maybe if you use some really shitty 5mm ones or wear bulletproof vest.
Where the fuck can you catch Ghostface?
>>321674430
I would also like to know this
>>321647890
my complaint is it's easy to be unable to distinguish beaten path from off the path, yknow? not far into the game though.
>drop useless shit as a breadcrumb / killroy was here
not sure why i didn't think of this. did it with torches in minecraft.
>>321673869
Dogs are kinda bullshit in this game. At least you can hold them back since they're melee only.
>>321668381
Searched everywhere in depot A. Is it possible obtain it via random loot later ?
>>321675772
Never seen it anywhere later, unfortunately.
What exactly does it mean if an item's resistence is "21% / 8"?
>>321676152
It's going to reduce damage taken by either 21% or 8 points, whatever is going to be higher.
>>321634401
Every game that can benefit from a map needs that cartographer shit on Etrian Odyssey. Drawing your own map in game is so awesome.
solid character builds for retards?
>>321677316
psi monk
high dex/agi/will
>>321677538
You need 5 INT on any melee build for Cheap Shots, but other than that yeah.
I'm going to play a Thought Control only character on hard mode just to spite that guy from earlier.
>>321677316
Making your own build is half the gun.
I wouldn't steal that from you, just make something that sounds fun and like it would work.
>>321677787
Do you mean Thought Control as your only invested combat skill or a pure thought control conduct?
>>321677787
Not a problem if you take stealth, or lockpicking for vents, or EMP nades, or electronics for tasers.
>>321677834
> half the gun
Meant fun.
>>321677920
Thought Control only, as in I won't use anything but that for combat. I'm not even going to use EMP, I'll just stealth past bots.
To take it 1 step further, I won't take any crafting skills either.
>>321678303
I kinda want to make a non-crafter sniper/pistol build to use all those cool unique weapons.
Would use Dragunov/Gluck 17, wear a black balaclava and a buletproof vest, drink lots of mushroom brew and name him Ivan.
I don't have stealth skill. I'm not particularly good at weapons (Gun at 5) but am a psychonaut. I just got to the caves beneath the starter town and these fucking rats are eating me alive. Did I fuck my character up?
>>321678728
did you get psi skills from the dudes in the starting town?
Does anybody know how to get to the "east warehouse" for the mushroom brew drinking fool named Dude at Railway Crossing?
Shit's pretty vague man, the only thing east is the ironhead gang turf.
How do you guys make money? These fucking assholes are very particular about what they'll buy.
I imagine psi or melee builds have it easier because you can sell all that ammo.
>>321679125
Yeah but not the psychokinesis ones because they're 25 skill req but I'm capped at 22 at the char creation.
I was thinking of playing a roaming psionic death god with 0 subtlety.
>>321679161
Go south from the rail crossing sign, then east.
It's not really hard to find, he also mentioned double door and a sentry bot.
>>321679381
Pick things with the best weight/value ratio.
Pick a few things of each type. Pistols and electronic parts are the best to pick up.
>Tchortist Noble Robe raises Will by 1
How can I acquire this robe? Is there some way to get it peacefully without killing any Tchortists?
How the fuck you suppose to get started in this game?
I went to explore after doing all the starting stuff, and these 20 fucking rat dogs almost wrecked my shit. Then some actual dogs did wreck my shit and there is no way in hell I could fight them.
Did I miss something? I've got no healing items left, almost out of ammo, no money to buy more and my gear is all shit anyway.
>>321679450
Oh yeah thanks, I've looted that place already but didn't see the secret vent.
>>321679873
git gud desu
>>321679749If you are quick enough, you can loot one from Eidein during the elevator battle
>>321679381
Dry loot everything and keep it in some storage containers, also get the Recycle/Repair Kit blueprints so you can recycle all your really shitty equipment and use them to repair expensive equipment to maximize the value of your sales.
Melee characters don't need bullets yeah, but I haven't even been able to sell bullets after SGS because the equipment sales keep the merchants completely out of cash anyway, technically gun characters get more value out of merchants because they can sell for dosh AND bullets at every restock.
>can't use thought control in place of certain
speech checks
>tfw can't jedi mind trick people
>>321680339
I picked Thought Control at first for this reason too.
From what I've seen the power skills are pretty much entirely kept separate from utility skills.
Where's gorsky? He should be by the bar, but i can't find him anywhere
Should I get persuasion or intimidation? Which is more useful?
>>321680607
Really now Anon.
If someone says he is going to be at the bar but he isn't, what is the most logical action you can take in order to learn his location? Think hard.
>>321680704
Persuasion. You can take both if you want to talk your way out as much as possible.
>you can kill and loot your partner combatants in the middle of an arena match
I love it.
Throwing or Crossbows anons?
>>321680829
Well I'm running a combat guy so I don't really want to talk my way out as much as I want to not get locked out of quests.
>>321680915
I wish the public would call you a "Betrayer" or something like that if you do this.
>>321680704
I've seen be actually quest-relevant on at least one occasion, Intimidate on the other hand has only ever been for skipping fights.
>>321680829
God damn it how did I miss this.i actually spoke to the barkeeper earlier and didn't notice that particular line
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>>321681026
Don't take either then, persuasion is just an alternative to solving quests.
>>321680209
Also if you haven't already, always unload your weapons before selling them. Whether they contain ammo has no effect on their sales price.
And never sell components you could eventually assemble into an item to sell either.
I have never quick saved and quick loaded so much in a game, and I love it.
Went in completely blind, had no fucking idea what to do for stats, took the Psi pill when I had 0 points in any of the traits, currently retrieving the drill part from the junkyard and I'm having a fucking blast.
>tfw just got to Core City
all these fucking maps, it's a labyrinth
>>321681209
It does let youpartner SGS with Junkyardbut I have no idea if that actually affects anything.
>>321681025
Went crossbow, regret not putting more points into throwing because grenades are OP as shit and the knives look dope, especially since you can poison them.
>>321681350
It also does let youSave Buzzer without kililng Facelesswhich is pretty helpful once you get toDeep Caverns
>>321681296
Just explore around and loot stuff. The city has oddities everywhere to reward you for going around getting to know your way around.
>>321681514
Also throwing net. Don't underestimate it.
>>321681025
Throwing is a secondary skill.
So either crossbows or both.
>>321681514
No real reason to dump more than maybe 30 points into throwing.
So can Nimble reduce an armour set's armour penalty to zero, or will wearing armour always incur a penalty? Is wearing no/very little armour worth it if you take Nimble and pump Dodge and Evasion?
>>321682001
100 damage throwing knives seem like that have potential, but I am disappointed that they don't get any crit chance.
>>321682057
Nimble is a flat -15 on your total armor penalty, so as long as your total equipment penalty is 15% or less it's reduced to zero.
>>321682057
>So can Nimble reduce an armour set's armour penalty to zero
Yes.
>>321682439
>>321682591
Great, thanks. I was worried I wouldn't be able to take advantage of the bonus without it being suicide.
Fucking crawlers. Time to equip the goggles. And buy antidotes.
Should I go to foundry and rail crossing before doing core city quests?
>tfw 13k coins but nothing to spend them on since merchans only sell crap
>>321683146
Foundry is optional, but definetly go to the Rail Crossing first. It makes more sense story-wise.
>>321683238
You can spend them on your Core City house once you get it and on making super steel once you defeat the Best in Foundry.
Clever.
>>321683146
Going to a corner and throwing flares all around you is also good if you feel crawlers are sneaking up on you.
>>321637903
Is stealth/psi viable? I made a first character that was spread too thin, and now I'm going back to make a second. I'd like to maintain the stealth aspect, and crossbows are weak shit.
>>321684651
>Is stealth/psi viable?
I don't see why not.
Any build can benefit from starting combat on your own terms.
Is this burrower quest from Camp Hathor going to seriously fuck my shit up?
>>321685448
Not if you can sneak and have some TNT.
Are psionic mentor locations completely random?
>>321684651
There are no feats to support stealth psi attacks, but telekinetic proxy + telekinetic punch + force user will wreck a lot of shit and silently.
You can also have fun with exothermic aura and then sneaking around.
>>321657856
I'm to damn lazy. I already made sneak gear to put Abrams bug in the vent then quickly dropped it. I'd have to hike it all the way back to junkyard or SGS to make the armor.
Do I need to just restart if my build is bad? I'm at the junkyard part 2 and I can't do jack shit to the mutant dogs, I know I could build a character properly if I restarted but seems frustrating to do all this shit again. I'm level 7.
>>321672440
The limited clothing options are one of my few complaints with the game. It's a shame there isn't mod support afaik
>>321679381
Sell EVERYTHING
Except armour, fuck hauling that around
>taking on like 5 burrowers at once because I'm retard
>down to 1
>hypos on cool down
>it has like 25% HP left
>fire a 3 burst salvo at 95%
>miss all of them
>it kills me in the next round
how is it even possible to get this angry at video games
>>321689321
Just get a medium freq shield, burrowers can't pierce through them.
>>321689321
If you're using burst or rapid fire you'll want to check the accuracy after you've selected the skill, because it probably won't be 95%
I've not tried it but I think the gas mask or/and biohazard suit should mititgate their poison
