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This is the single player hack & slash I'd been waiting for.
Grim Dawn/ARPG thread I guess.
how is this game?
d3 is too casual for me
poe is cool but im too casual for that. rather, i like to study shit before i try and i end up not playing the game that much
>>321623271
Did you play Titan Quest?
It's pretty much the same, but with a bit more customization and quality of life improvements.
>>321623271
>>321623740
It is very atmospheric game.
Grapix r shiet doe
Titan Quest looked pretty good for an ARPG for its age, though.
Although from my understanding since they're using the same engine for Grim Dawn, it doesn't really make very good use of modern processors.
Obligatory gun wizard webm
>>321625584
HOW DO I DO THIS
Does it anything that PoE doesn't do?
>>321620929
Can you fuck off already you fucking shill?
You keep spamming these threads last few days like your life depends on it. The game is pure shit and manages to be worse than D3.
Kill yourself.
>>321627681
I'm not OP, but I'll take some blame for posting some of these threads.
I've super conflicted lately.
>>321626776
Not be full of minmax autism, competitive loot whoring, and microtransactions.
>>321620929
which one should i get? this or van helsing final cut?
>>321627951
Grim Dawn definitely. It has excellent reviews across the board and for good reason. It says early access but they've completely finished all features in the game and are now just fixing some bugs up to the February release.
>>321625797
Demo/Arcanist with a lot of cools procs from devotions.
>>321627681
It's my first GD thread m8, people showed some interest in a previous thread yesterday so I made a new one.
>>321627882
DELETE THIS
>>321627951
Van Helsing is downright boring
>>321628372
What? PoE has microtransactions, you can't deny that. The online only aspect of it coupled with PVP and "seasons" makes it somewhat competitive, very competitive for hardcore players. And the deceptively restrictive skill tree makes elitist players very autistic about builds.
Grim Dawn has no microtransactions, you caan't buy $40 loot. It also has no PVP or seasons. And it's more flexible with builds.
>>321628759
POE is the model F2P game though, its microtransactions are definitely not an issue
>>321627951
vhdc is still buggy as shit and may not get patched
>>321628759
>PoE has microtransactions, you can't deny that
Yes, I can. Because it doesn't. You can donate for no gameplay benefit. That's not a "microtransaction."
>>321628969
>>321629039
Sure, but they're still there. Cosmetic or not.
Grim Dawn doesn't have any at all.
>>321628759
That's the point. I hate PoE and the jerking off to the Sphere Grid knock-off that the skill tree is.
Only few builds remain viable throughout, the leveling process with quests and shit is outdated as fuck (shame that Grim Dawn retains the shrine grind and stuff, though).
Not to mention crappy drop rates for good stuff so grinding for currency is the best way to play and obtain gear despite the fact that it boasted on having no currencies at the beginning.
Not to mention the only good part about it is the maps.
>>321628969
I wish I could say that but the fact that gear looks so shit is really jarring. +no pants.
>>321629039
"donate"
Wow.
When will it get controller support? I want to play it but not with uncomfortable mouse and keyboard setup.
Oh man so it's finally done, been waiting on this shit for years
>>321625584
>try a melee NB/demo
>it's squishy as fuck
>try melee NB/occultist instead
>still squishy as fuck even with all the leech stuff and pneuma
>try pistol wizard
>everything just fucking explodes and you look pretty dope doing it
Pistol Wizard it is.
What can I do with 50 arcanist / 10 nightblyat?
>>321620929
Looking at getting this. Am I able to do a fodder summoner? Other games always make it limited to a couple or simple timed summons.
So I'm playing a shaman and fucking shit up with two handers. What should I pick as my second class? Soldier seems like the obvious choice for what I'm doing, but I just want to know what options I have.
>>321629325
Diablo 3 has it, Van Helsing has it, Victor Vran has it. The problem is that all of those are shittier games.
>>321629423
Sadly not.
You can reach like... 5-6(?) summons, as well as a couple from devotions, but nowhere near army tier.
Personally that's my biggest wish for the expansion.
>>321629408
Get Nightblade to 15 or 25, get the DW passives to 5 (expect the poison one, you can skip that), fuck shit up with your lightning damage auto attacks.
>>321629493
Nightblade has some good options.
Phantasmal blades are godly with a point in Focused Throw, and and you have some great options for a bleed based 2H build in general.
>>321629512
Oh fuck me then. I'll wait to see if it ever gets added
Thanks for letting me know anon
>>321629527
Ayy, I have cold + fire devotions and items. I also dropped almost entire Marauder set and wanted to use that, but looks like only demo has ranged autoattack.
>>321629507
Diablo 3 on PC doesn't have it sadly. I wish I could use it because it would at least somewhat help me because I have CTS.
>>321629493
You get either Soldier for zweihander skills and ability to equip better gear or Nighblade for quality of life Shadow Strike.
>>321629106
>i don't want to use hotkeys
>>321629656
Is CTS not treatable by phisiotherapy and/or surgery?
Is this a good commando build?
http://grimcalc.com/build/LB9kI1
What devotions am I supposed to get with it?
>>321630095
Sure, but controller helps too.
Also, during MMOs pressing all the hotkeys fuck up your hand too.
>>321629507
>All the shittier games that cater more to the casual audience and console audience have controller support!
Is this likely to go higher than 40% off if it hasn't already?
>>321630559
No flash or daily sales on steam this year so no.
>>321630475
Fuck off with your controller = casual bullshit.
Why nobody points out how shitty it looks?
What class complements Demo nicely? And what are some skills to go for in Devotion?
>>321631227
Occultist works pretty well for fire/chaos/burn damage.
Then aim for Fiend, Solael's Witchblade and Ulzuin's Torch in devotions and melt through everything.
Tfw Blademaster still rocking everything hard.
>>321631094
Because the gameplay outshines the graphics? Also, it looks decent enough as it's trying to go for the more dark route like D2 instead of D3.
>Every webm is demo
>Play demo for first character, which was hardcore
>Completely fuck everything up until dead due to DOOR STUCK, the one door in the game you can't destroy (after Krieg's) at Lvl 20ish
>Re-roll as Shaman
>Getting constantly destroyed and have to keep using rifts to do piddly damage before getting nuked
Ranged is blatantly OP then. It got better for a bit against the zombies respeccing into all Savagery + Primal Strike but that's it, when the bandits turn up it just gets fucking obnoxious with enemies running faster than you, tanking shit, debuffing and sniping you.
Considering you can't respec mastery and the level curve has spiked after 22ish so there's nothing really to grind for levels anymore, the fun has just straight up stopped.
>>321630559
I believe it's close to being released too, so the price might go up. I'd say get it now if you think it's interesting.
>>321631683
Melee can be pretty shit at the start until you get some decent damage and defense going, then it becomes strong as hell toward mid game until the end, and it was much much easier to beat the final boss on a melee guy loaded with defense than my glass canon pistol wizard.
>>321631683
Almost forgot
>Missing more than playing Morrowind for the first time and running out of fatigue
>Turns out Offensive Ability increases accuracy
>Virtually nothing gives it
Need some help /v/. I just started the game and I feel a little underwhelmed. I've started a few quests and the enemies feel so boring, there's very little variation between the groups and the lack of interesting ability variation right now is putting me off and I'm actually considering refunding it because I don't really have money to just blow on games I won't play.
I'm not trying to bait, that's just how I feel right now. I was just wondering if you guys feel the game gets much better later on and whether or not I should stick with it past the refund period and just try to enjoy it.
I played Diablo 3 twice, once a few years ago, alone, and I ended up quitting pretty quickly. I played it again about a year ago with RoS with some friends and made it through the entire game and had a good bit of fun so maybe that's my issue. I'm really not sure.
Thoughts?
>>321628969
>>321629039
Whether or not the micro transactions are "done right", it doesn't change the fact that a SHOP button is on your screen AT ALL TIMES asking for your money.
Some people might find that a bit of a turn off.
>>321631874
>I've started a few quests and the enemies feel so boring, there's very little variation between the groups
Welcome to ARPGs. If that kind of stuff is a turn off for you, you're pretty fucked.
It's just going to be huge globes of samey enemies from here on out.
>>321631874
The early parts, the swamps in particular, are kind of a drag. These games in general tend to become a lot more fun once you gain a few levels and get some more varied skills and equipment.
I love the game but if i was in your situation i probably would've refunded and spent the money on something i know i'd enjoy instead.
Could always buy it later when you have more money to spend/someone to play with.
What about the netcode? Is it PoE-tier desync cancer?
>switching from Shaman levelling build to ZEUS, GOD OF THUNDER
>Try a occultist-soldier focused on poison and health regen, a bit of physical
>couldn't be more boring up to level 14
I'm not sure I want to continue with that. How's arcanist-shaman focused on lightning damage?
>>321632202
It's a bit off since last build. Summon icons sticking around even if they're gone and so you have too many icons, which also pushes party member icons and bars outside of the screen and enemies being misplaced on anyone but host's screen and such.
It was good before so they'll most likely fix it soon enough.
>>321632409
> How's arcanist-shaman focused on lightning damage?
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26367
>>321632071
>welcome to ARPGS
poe had decent enemy variety, every new location had one-two new enemy types and they usually had different attack patterns as well. Granted the game sucks ass now, builds are kill, monster damage spikes are deliberate "hardcore" bullshit, desync fix just allows you to see how shitty their servers are with constant stutters and random dropouts
>>321631874
I dunno about Grim Dawn but when rolling a char, ARPGs in general tend to be a drag in the following parts:
a) very early game: at this point your character is not even a stub of what it will look like in the endgame. All your passives and perks are generic buffs to stats and since you don't have your combos up yet the gameplay is now reduced to spamming your main offensive and defensive ability. Things get better as your char becomes "yours" and you learn to understand it's weaknesses and strengths.
b) near-end game: there's a point in the game when you pretty much finished all the story-related content but you still lack some levels to be able to do the true endgame. This is the point when you have to grind your last levels and the bar just progresses like a snail, or just get those drops that give the final touches to the build. If it's your first build, this is where you learn clearing speed and inventory efficiency.
>>321631556
I do agree that game is awesome defined by gameplay, but it just looks really terribad. Any chance they will 'prettyfy' it before official release?
>>321633027
It's on a dated engine, so I doubt it. This is probably the most they could do.
>>321632696
>>321632071
>>321632140
Thanks for the help. I dunno, I really want to stick with it because I've been looking for a game to hold my interest for some time and the potential for modding really interests me as well.
I think I'll try watching some later game videos to see how the game changes.
And I know that there usually isn't too too much enemy variation in ARPGs but there's usually at least a few interesting variations on the base enemy that keeps the game interesting. In the swamp its just melee creature, ranged version of that creature that has some new effects. I was just hoping for something a little more inspired I guess.
>>321633175
Oh well. Maybe mods then. Are there mods for TQ?
>>321625584
That is pretty much the build I am using now, but with more focus on the summons the Arcanist gets. So many passives and buffs for my shots though holy fuck. Shit is just exploding everywhere.
Just reached level 64, and about halfway through act 1 of my Elite run. Shit is actually fucking difficult now. All the extra champion spawns wreck your shit.
>>321633325
Yes, there are overhaul mods and shit for TQ.
Check out TQ Underworld.
>>321633471
>TQ Underworld.
Thanks!
>>321629106
Just set your attack without move button to Tab. Then you have easy access to is and your first 4 hotkeys or so. This game is easy to control.
And controller support likely never given how the game works.
>>321631970
>free game
i can live with it
How do I stop this game from chugging during huge hordes when I'm using a fucking 980ti?
>>321633764
I am using a 750ti and maxed all graphics, maybe it's your processor or some shit?
>>321633764
It's unoptimised for newer cards at the moment,.My friend has either 970 or 980 and I have 770 and my framerate is almost stable 60 fps.
>>321631683
What difficulty are you playing with?
>>321636117
Veteran.
Just beat down Darius, kinda pissed a little the Cthonic basement dwellers in Burrwitch have scaled themselves up to Lvl 30 when they were 25ish last time when I was demo.
I hate how to try and make skills not OP they decide to make it so points you dump in them get less and less valuable, when you're told in advance eventually you're only going to get like one point per level even though it's getting longer and longer to get them. The one skill to pump Offensive so I can hit when I'm swinging slow is getting stingy now, and tanking doesn't help when it's all armour ignoring elemental/debuff/DoTs stuff that gets you in hordes.
>MSVC100.dll is missing
>JEW companies still fuc with the c++ windows versions
>MFW I have to uninstall 2012 and install 2010 for it to work
I went Demolitionist/Occultist and I just do nothing but auto attack everything. I have that fire shot shit and the Occultist aura thing both of which have good upgrades if you're using a 2H gun/crossbow but I kinda want to dual wield pistols.
What should I do?
>>321637545
Blackwater Cocktail
>>321631970
Catposter is that you
>>321637874
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EcgruWlXnQ
How the fuck do you counter
>miss
>miss
>miss
>miss
with spells? It's starting to get annoying.
>>321636820
You really need a good mix of offensive and one point wonder defensive skills to perform in GD
Also do not dumb every attribute into offensives either, try to at least get some physique
>>321637304
STILL NOT WORKING, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>321638685
Hate to break it to ya, you probably fucked this up yourself and there is nobody else to blame.
>>321638557
Cunning.
>>321638706
i did a system recovery over the cmd prompt, uninstalled all the executables and then reinstalled them. Fuckin jew companies..
>>321638557
>>321638731
a few points in cunning do the trick, best way to level most classes is actually an even spread of attribute points.
That said, later gear has enough OA to cover your missing, you still won't crit though :^)
>>321638557
You need more Spirit I believe. Since it acts like your Offensive for attacks, but for magic.
>>321638805
>best way to level most classes is actually an even spread of attribute points
That's not physique gouge.
>>321638731
Nice so I have to waste points to get cunning that only gives me % chance to hit with spells, devs are retarded.
>>321638853
I google cunning and it states that it increases your % hit chance with spells, which is fucking stupid since it's the only good thing it does for me.
>>321638932
Get Offensive Ability from items/devotions instead of pumping cunning.
Do enemies drop all of their gear and actually use any good gear they have or is it just random drops rolled on monster death like other shitty games?
Does this game have multiplayer with direct ip connect?
>tfw I bought it on sale and it inexplicably runs like fucking shit on my PC
I can run other games just fine but this one is so poorly optimized.
A shame because I fucking love Titan Quest.
>>321638910
You can get all the physique you need from your class choice and mastery usually. An even spread or even just 20 points in physique will do wonders, rest can do cunning only if you are a nightblade/soldier or evenly between cunning and spirit.
>>321638932
Guess magic is still tied to Cunning then. Which is odd since I run a ranged character that has no issue hitting with every shot, but my magic still misses.
And as >>321638984
said just get gear with Offensive buffs. Better than dumping into Cunning.
>>321639127
There's no such thing as "all the physique you need".
>>321639225
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Do you want to be survivable only or do you want to be survivable and actually have good clearspeed?
>tfw Aether Ray focus
Man it feels good.
>tfw Blademaster
>tfw only need a tiny bit of physique and can dump rest into cunning due to pierce damage
Titan Quest is my favorite h&s senpaitachi
>>321639289
You don't need cunning or spirit for good clear speed.
>>321639073
That seems odd. I've had no issues running it to date and only recently started getting any slow down now that I am on a higher difficulty with lots more monsters on screen, and my 7 auras, fuck ton of other passives, 2-6 pets, and dual-wielding pistols putting out like 2-5 shots a second or more.
Why is the soundtrack in this game so shit? There are like only two good or three good tracks but even those are ruined since they're played over and over again.
Such a shame since the environments look so great.
>>321639383
Stop spreading misinformation you cunt.
And even if you didn't it depends highly on your class.
Titan Quest had cooler skills and a better setting.
>>321639383
You don't need physique at all if you're ranged and not garbage at the game.
>>321639485
>Stop spreading misinformation you cunt.
I'd say the same to you.
>>321629091
PoE is free to play, though. I don't mind the devs making it possible to hand out donations while getting some cosmetic rewards for it.
>>321639573
So tell me, why would you ONLY pump phys?
I thought Titan Quest was a bit shit and boring, but Grim Dawn is a blast so far.
>>321639619
Because Cunning and Spirit are shit and not worth it.
>>321639545
this
>>321639383
This, it gives +% of base stats but what you really want is lots of unique instances of attacks e.g. "proc on normal attack".
>>321639201
>>321638932
Cunning/Spirit only add a small percentage extra for each attack, they don't enable attacks.
Spirit is only essential for mana hungry classes like maybe Arcanist and equipping.
Physique is essential for health, regen and most importantly equipping EVERYTHING.
OA is the only stat that affects accuracy, spells are considered the same as melee/ranged attacks for accuracy, and you can't pump it with levels, only find it on gear and Devotion constellations. It's kinda bullshit like that since it could just scale damage instead of outright missing a ton, just fucks over slow weapons.
>>321639671
as opposed to phys which only gives health?
I'd rather be hitting and critting things while having a decent health pillow than not.
The fuck is the difference between lightning and electrocute?
>>321639723
>I'm literally retarded and think Cunning = OA when it's clearly labelled on the character sheet it doesn't do shit for accuracy/crits.
Lel
>>321639742
>Bleeding
>Internal trauma
Do you think the game is going to go lower?
I just finished all the hardcore challenges yesterday for D3 and want to try something new.
>>321639742
electrocute is more qt
>>321639723
>as opposed to phys which only gives health?
Did you read the stat descriptions?
>>321639742
Isn't it like lingering lightning damage? Like bleed.
Two handed gun/crossbow or dual wield pistols for Demolitionist?
Can you move and attack at the same time?
posting in a shill thread
>>321639742
Cause and effect?
Anyone wanna do a Bastion of Chaos run on elite?
>>321639775
>>321639759
Read it yourself.
>>321639576
Putting a SHOP button on the main hud to be visible at all times is a little obnoxious though.
>>321639983
>46% more physical damage
Whoa....
>>321640187
>also affects crit rate
>>321639983
>level 35
>4784 dps
>level 26
>400 dps
Is melee broken or is magic just shit?
>>321639819
>dual wield pistols
This. Once you get that Relic that enables it you will never want to go back to a two-hand. Especially since having two pistols means you can get even more buffs for your character. Make sure to get some Attack Speed increases though.
>>321640293
Blademaster is kind of broken, not even gonna deny that.
DPS is even higher in combat with procs and troll rage etc.
>>321640346
How awesome, and I can't even level up my skills anymore. Why is magic always shit in every fucking rpg?
>>321639352
Enjoy not getting heavy armor late game
>>321640501
Magic is really good too, you just need to know what you are doing.
Coming from TQ helps alot to understand this game.
Also some twinked gear.
>>321640551
>heavy armor
Who cares?
>>321640346
Magic doesn't get good until late game.
>>321639742
Electrocute is lightning DoT
>>321640569
So you mean it's possible to get 1200% bonus spell damage?
>Bought grimdawn when it first came out because I love isometric ARPGS and I like supporting devs that also do (except Vanhelsing, fuck that shit game)
>Friends won't buy grim dawn and play with me
>Grim dawn doesn't have a Realm like d2 had
>>321633563
You took the bait.
>>321639983
>Increases chances to hit
>Doesn't give stats but does give stats for damage
Yeah sure, and my OA doesn't go up when I level cunning so guess who's full of shit?
What's end game like?
>>321641372
The devs for making shitty tooltips?
>>321629039
>Yes, I can. Because it doesn't. You can donate for no gameplay benefit. That's not a "microtransaction."
How the fucking fuck are stash tabs not a gameplay benefit
>>321641591
If you had no stash tabs by default it would be a benefit.
You get 4 tabs, get good if you want to be a jew.
What dual classes well with nightblade?
>>321642440
Soldier
>>321641678
The entire economy is based around hoarding shit that takes up stash space
More tabs puts you at an outright advantage
>>321633764
That's probably a processor/RAM bottleneck, actually.
The game is single-threaded because it's just an upgraded TQ engine.
I don't understand how devotions work
please help
>>321642806
go to shrine
restore shrine
get shrine points
spend on devotions that give you bonuses and shit
>>321642889
Is there some thing determining which color dot I get for activating a shrine?
It says I have one yellow point but I unlocked a thing that wants me to have three yellow points on the lion
>>321642984
The points you get for restoring shrines are neutral
The colors are related to which constellations you're speccing into, and you usually only get multiple color points for completing a constellation
Just look at constellations with bonuses that work for your character and choose ones that give you the colors you need.
>>321640901
Your friends sound like fags
>>321643123
oooo I fucking get it, thanks anon
I had everything completely backwards, I thought you spend color dots to get constellations and not the other way around
What exactly are affinities good for, what do they do?
>>321643232
they are
been trying to make new friends but everyone I talk to is a consolefag
>>321643283
>>321643123
never mind I figured it out, some constellations have requirements of specific dots while others give you dots
>>321626776
Doesn't require internet to play. Also I think lan.
>>321626776
Have actual classes instead of just plunking you down at different points on a sphere grid
Not have a fucking sphere grid
No online only and therefore no desyncing
No fucking sphere grid
Pay once and you're done, no microtransactions
NO SPHERE GRID
>>321626776
Not suck.
>>321640787
I think my Druid has something like +700% lightning damage, and enough spirit to give me an additional 400-500%, so yeah, 1200% magical damage is no problem. I don't even have any legendaries yet.
>Use Savagery
>put 40 skill points in it
>only get a bit more damage over Troll Rage or some other auto attack from a component
>there is no Physical/Lightning legendary 2h weapon
It's like they want me to drop Savagery
>>321643874
Yeah I got that going for Aether ray.
Doing like 15k damage per tick before resistances
>>321643969
>>there is no Physical/Lightning legendary 2h weapon
There isn't, but who needs physical damage when you can pick between these two babies?
>>321643969
>>321644301
You could always just craft a great green, lol
>>321644236
Can i see a screen of aether ray in action?
>>321643969
>Use Savagery
>put 40 skill points in it
>>321644301
I seriously want the one on the right. Where the fuck do you even get good drops? I'm lvl 45 so far and haven't finished the game yet.
Will it ever come out of early access?
>>321644631
Legendary drops start at 50.
the skills are so lackluster
>>321644672
February
>>321644631
Farming Steps of Torment and Bastion of Chaos are good bets for drops. Also when you get to Nemesis with Cronley's Gang, Cronley runs starts paying off since Fabius spawns in there a lot.
That said, legendaries don't start dropping until around 50, though.
>>321625584
Okay, I'm sold.
>>321644609
Thanks senpai.
>>321620929
All these Grim Dawn threads. We know that it's completed now (only need to complete the steam achievements now) And i already own the game. It's actually quite good now that all the classes and affinity are out. The devs took a really long time to complete it, though.
>>321644702
>the skills are so lackluster
say faggots about literally every arpg
>>321644964
Doesn't do it much justice considering the enemies usually explode into ashes when they die by it.
>>321644424
Why would they even put the skill in the skill tree if it is useless
>>321631094
Looks 100x better than World of Diablo 3
>>321620929
Where is the torrent?
>>321620929
>Need a game to play
>Plan on buying this since its feature complete finally
>Don't get paid until next friday and I spent way too much traveling for christmas to see family
Well shit
>>321629314
Ok, if you want to try something not squishy at all, try a druid / soldier. Constitution % and health regen up the ass, use cleave and lighting strike to destroy anything in sight.
>>321645048
to branch to other skills duh
>>321645070
What?
Also, seem to be that there are people here who actually know shit:
Is this game designed to be played solo? How the fuck aggro/tanking works in this game?it doesn't as far as I can see
>>321645170
By druid, i mean shaman, of course.
>>321645048
It's not useless, Primal Strike is just much better early game.
>>321645287
I'm already in elite and primal strike still looks better
>>321645213
Aggro switches pretty quickly. So if you're squishy deal a shit tonne of damage then kite until your tanky friend smacks the enemy enough.
So yes it's designed for solo.
>>321645213
It's designed for solo play, yeah.
There are one or two skills that actually has a taunt effect, but they're on high-level legendaries, IIRC.
The way aggro works is basically aggro from debuffs > pull aggro > dealing damage aggro, so if you wanna tank for friends, you have to have some sort of debuff you can put on everything.
what the heck am i missing, i started the game, chose char name and gender and it throws me right into some town without explaining anything, no tutorial, nothing, i cant talk to npcs, have no quests, only thing i can do is go outside and kill some mobs.
>>321645491
There's a guy you can talk to right next where you spawn.
>>321645395
We talking LATE game, famo.
>>321645491
Did you pirate it? If so, no quests for you. No Epic/Legendary drops either, I think.
>>321645491
Ahahahaha. He pirated the game!
>>321645491
Pirated versions are fucked and nothing works. Either buy it or wait until Feb until it gets properly cracked.
>>321620929
Should I get this now?
Or do you think it will be cheaper on a daily sale?
If it's not on sale for more today at noon i'll probably grab it.. I have the day off and I want to waste the shit out of it.
>>321645593
>>321645597
>>321645610
This some kind of meme? I pirated the game and get quests and legionaries just fine.
>>321645665
Maybe older version. b29 does not WORK. Meme this
>Can't specialize in certain elements
I liked Titan Quest's caster classes more. They were much more focused on one thing, while Grim Dawn's arcanist is all over the place with "elemental damage" which I guess is all the elemental damage types at the same time?
>MFW briarthorn with maxed skills and nice pet percentage increase
>>321645741
That could be it, I have b28.
>MFW my first epic item I find is a double barrel shotgun that is also on fire
>>321641678
>The microtransactions aren't a benefit
>You just have to get good
Cancer.
>>321645887
briathorns abilities are useless
What's a good AoE skill I can unlock as Soldier/Nightblade?
I'm dual wielding and using Cadence as my auto-attack enhance, I feel like it's great vs single powerful enemies but I need a button to press when there's a lot of shit on screen
>>321645741
If the devs think they are smart about doing this kind of shit they are absolutely deluded, good games thrive with piracy.
>>321646032
simply eric
>>321646032
Not once you get pet centered affinities. Mobs are killing themselves just looking at the thing funny (it,s abilities are mostly to draw aggro, too). But the hound is still better with it's fiery cleave thing.
>>321646114
I am not affiliated with devs in any way. Go make a post on their forums. Only reason I know about b29 not working, is because I pirated it and it didn't worked. Sounds logical, right?
>>321646085
If you wanna have an actual skill to press, use Ring of Steel.
Since you're dual-wielding, you could just get a few points in Belgothian's Shears and Whirling Death, though, and you'll proc your AoE instead.
Also Blades of Wrath (The devotion skill from Assassin constellation) bound to Cadence is pretty good, if you've got enough OA to have a decent crit rate.
>>321646114
Afaik the release is gonna be DRM free anyway.
>>321646237
Yeah i assumed that of course.
Does Blade Arc taunt enemies or is it broken? I can see the tooltip, but it just doesn't seem to be working in game.
>>321646114
If you're trying to justify your crime through "I was trying the game" then fucking try it on an earlier build
>>321646418
It's supposed to, but I think it's just an extra debuff to draw additional aggro, so if you play with someone that throws more debuffs than you, it does jack shit.
>>321645593
>>321645597
>>321646450
well yes i downloaded it to see how it performs and looks, also not enough steambux currently to buy and refund. t b h it looks and feels like shit though, sound is bad, animations are bad, it made me actually appreciate poe again, even tho poe is one piece of shit itself
>>321646325
Thanks anon, I'm not very far and I haven't unlocked too many skills yet, I wasn't aware the passive dual wield enhancement also gives some AoE damage
I'll try out Ring of Steel when I get there too
for demo, are stun jacks good?
>>321646450
Not trying to justify shit, feel free to call me a criminal, and as a matter of fact trying shit on earlier builds doesn't make sense.
>>321646450
>crime
>>321646756
Then your claim that "good games thrive on piracy" is horseshit
You aren't doing anything that would make the game "thrive" you're just stealing it and crying when you can't get your way for once
About to get this game now that it's more or less complete, barring the actual leaving early access.
I played a warfare-nature character back in the day to kinda get a tanky melee character without having to spec into defense. Turns out by lategame that was an awful fucking mistake so I had to restart into the OP dream spec with warfare.
What kind of build is really fun for a DW melee character, broken or otherwise?
>>321646535
I have it leveled up to 14/16. But it does not seem to hold any aggro at all. Or pull, for that matter. So I just don't know.
>>321646724
No problem.
I forgot to mention Zolhan's Technique in the soldier tree, that's also an autoattack proc that deals AoE damage.
>>321646535
Also, no visual indicator whatsoever on monsters that there is some kind of taunt/debuff on them.
>>321646845
The claim is right, piracy brings in more people and helps in spreading the game around, it's a mechanism similar to the one used to have a fast growth on some apps.
Bring your moral superiority to reddit/feelthebern, faggot.
>>321620929
I was complaining no one talked about it here but now it's on sale and content complete everyone talk about it. It's my GOTY since I picked it up 10 months ago
.
I just wish there was some pvp arena with prizes. Hopefully someone mod it to balance the game for pvp tournament.
>>321646612
Okay.
>>321646914
>>321646994
I haven't actually used it myself, so I dunno. Maybe check the forums to see if anyone else is complaining about it? It might be broken, aggro is weird in this game.
>>321646936
Can multiple passive auto-attack procs trigger on the same auto attack?
>>321647040
Yes the game that's already getting loads of threads on places like here and coverage on newsites is totally going to benefit from you pirating it and going "i like it but poe's better"
That's what will make the difference in publicising it
>>321646747
Stun jacks got nerfed really hard in one of the builds
>Pick demo
>Takes forever to kill anything, explosives are cool though
>Pick Occulist and pump up the hellhound before warden
>oneshots everything in sight
Holy shit lol
Just got to level 10, what are some classes that go well with Occultist?
Which are the mostfun.
>>321647129
No, only one WPS (Weapon Pool Skill) will proc per autoattack. Basically, if you have say, 3 skills with 20% proc chance each, the game will roll 1-100 on every autoattack, if it rolls 1-20, proc 1 happens, if it rolls 21-40, proc 2 happens, if it rolls 41-60, proc 3 happens, and if it rolls 61-100, no procs happen and it's just a regular autoattack.
The third hit of cadence counts as a proc, by the way, so no other procs happen on that attack, you might wanna get your hands on a Mistborn Talisman or a Shard of Beronath later on, and use the autoattack modifiers on those instead.
>>321647346
Demolitionist
Burn everything
>>321647040
Nah, your unsourced bollocks is that, bollocks.
You offer nothing, you pirating the game is of no benefit to anyone but yourself. Don't whine like you've been fucking oppressed.
>>321647346
Shaman if you want more pet fun
>>321645841
Yes and no, you can specialize in specific magic types still.
I've seen people run full Aether damage Arcanists or full Cold, Elemental damage helps if you're going to pick another class that does Fire/Lightning/Cold.
Demo uses a lot of Fire/Lightning
Shaman uses a lot of Lightning
Nightblade uses some Cold and Occultist some Fire.
>>321647150
What does poe have to do now? Are you sperging out? The more years go by the more % of posts here seem made by a retard from the hugbox.
>aggro skills
smhhhh, nigga think they playin an MMO lmao
>>321647346
Want pets? Shaman
Wanna do buttloads of poison damage? Nightblade
Wanna be tanky as fuck and buffing your enemies so they kill themselves on you faster? Soldier (This requires pretty specific gear, though)
Wanna do shittons of chaos damage through spells? Arcanist (Albrecht's Aether Ray with transmuter melts absolutely everything in this case)
Do they have plans for a Server Realm akin to diablo 2 with Server-only legendaries and shit?
Please say yes
>>321646909
Dual Wield, you're always looking at Nightblade + something.
>>321647414
Whos' whining? Holy keks.
So I want to make an Arcanist build but god damn 2 skills are utterly worthless. What do I even use to get to Aether Ray?
>>321647548
>succubus(male)
That's a fucking incubus.
>>321647471
>>321646612
>s-stop calling me a bitch for pirating and whining
And then you have the fucking audacity to suggest that I'm from a hugbox
>>321647561
Alright, looks like Occultist or Soldier will fit it best, no?
>>321647645
No, it's a succubus(Male)
>>321647415
How good is the Hound in late game? He fucks shit up hard right now but I imagine that will change.
Is it still viable to rely on just the Occultist pets later on, or would I need more pets to make that viable.
I like the idea of my hound charging into battle as I whip bombs in and fuck shit up from a distance. But not if the hound is just going to run in and die.
>>321647643
I used Panetti's Replicating Missile, just pumped 16 points into the base skill and 12 points into Inner Focus and used that until I got up to AAR
>>321647494
Oh wow. Only MMOs have ability to play NOT SOLO.
>>321647351
Thanks for explaining that, I wasn't sure how it worked back in Titan Quest
Should I only upgrade one proc skill?
I think I might leave Cadence on for now and then get max level in an AoE auto attack proc
>>321647676
In case you a gullible retard, the 2 posts you are quoting are different people.
>>321647725
Which is an incubus.
>>321648001
It's a succubus(male)
you aren't gonna win this argument
you're as retarded as tolkien fags
>diablo with guns
hahahahahhahahahahhaha....no
>>321647689
Occultist might be kinda hard to find the right balance for a new player, I'd suggest Soldier for the sick passives.
Dump all your stats points into Cunning or go with like 1-3 or something.
>>321648001
>>321648089
Nah it's a Gancanagh
>>321648089
Right. I guess i'm a girl(male) too, yeah?
>>321647848
Depends how you wanna play, but if you're dualwielding, I guess you wanna play mostly an autoattack-based character, so you should put points into all the procs from the dual wield line until they're at 5 points (At least, but that gives you 20% proc rate for each) and then enough points for 20% proc rate on either Markovian's Advantage, or Zolhan's Technique, depending on whether or not you want more single-target or more AoE damage.
Short-term you probably wanna just get up to Whirling Death and putting 5 points into that, though, that'll give you some 360 degree AoE procs.
>>321648001
It really isn't.
>>321648252
it's a male demon who was assigned the role of a succubus
a succubus(male)
>>321648252
This girl sure is.
>tfw diablo is a much better game than this after all the latest patches
>tfw /v/ still hates it because memes and shit
at least the community is good without you turbonerds ruining it.
>>321648329
>it's a male demon who was assigned the role of a succubus
They call those incubi.
>>321648352
That's a tranny.
>>321648352
she has a nice dick desu
anyways, I wish my friend would wakeup and see that I got him grim dawn
bracing for the disappointment when he quits 20minutes in
I thought the release date was Q4 2015?
Fuck happened?
>>321648329
But the naming of succubi and incubi are based purely on the sex of the demon. Both of them go after male and female souls alike.
>>321648452
It's content complete, polish until February
>>321648452
>Q4 2015 right now
>Entire game is content complete as of a few days ago
Wow.
>>321625584
What's the barrier thingy?
Can you farm Aether shards anywhere?
I don't plan on doing so but I was wondering if you could since it costs Aethar shards to respec devotions
>>321648661
Random aoe that proc when I get hit in melee.
>>321648676
Yes, easily from the warden cellar, Last rift in Act 1 then go backward.
>>321648676
So all that Scrap and Aether Shards are worth something? Fuck...
>>321648591
Nigger, it is not officially out yet, is it?
Here is where the analogies and implications begin.
>>321648676
Arkovian Foothills rift, to the right you can usually find 3 crystals in 30 seconds.
>>321648946
>>321648827
Neat, thanks
>>321648932
You also use them to activate shrines, I haven't encountered other uses so far
>>321647848
>>321648281
grimcalc.com/build/yToc4v
Here's an example Blademaster build using Cadence that I think would work pretty well. Disregard the fact that it says level 74, the calc isn't updated to only 2 points per level from 50-85 yet. You've got a proc on every autoattack that isn't Cadence's third strike, some resists, some healing in Pneumatic Burst, a panic button in Blade Barrier, some good CC in Ring of Steel with the transmuter and Blade Trap, and absolutely ridiculous damage with all the procs, cunning from Anatomy of Murder, and Oleron's Rage.
Get some lifesteal (From the component Haunted Steel, for example) and adopt the hit'n'run style, and you'll be set.
So It's finally complete? I biught the early acess halfway act 2 I think.
>>321648932
lmao
You'll need tons of them to craft stuff.
>>321648420
>they call those incubi
no, an incubi is a male demon that performs the same role as a succubus
a succubus(male) is an incubus that identifies as a female
I really dislike edgy class usually but nightblade is so fun. I'm doing a cold trister with only the wind guy from shaman skill tree and poping them in the middle of groups, shadow striking in, ring of blade and shadow striking out is really fun. I love the fact that items give tons of new skills too, you can do a lot. I was kinda worried that there were only 6 classes compared to TQ, but with devotion and all, I see myself theorycrafting at work like it's 2008.
Also, the music is lame but the sound effects are perfect.
I can never enjoy these games unless I'm playing Hardcore. Help me fix my build or give me a new hc build.
I've been going the elementalist route with this build http://grimcalc.com/build/bZPcVr
I feel like I'm putting points in too many abilities, I still don't know what the most efficient route is.
>>321649007
Crafting. If you want them double rare affixes items, get ready to spend literally thousands of scrap.
>>321649026
That's stupid. It's such a big item I figured it was vendor trash after that one quest.
>>321649132
>a succubus(male) is an incubus that identifies as a female
Those are tumblr incubi.
Is GD equally fun to play at all levels?
In PoE hardcore I'm not really into building and theorycrafting perfect characters only to play boring Acts 1 and 2 once again and then lose my character because my build or items just were not enough.
>>321649232
You can respect almost anything exept mastery (and you can use a trainer), for a small gold fee.
>people played Titan Quest extensively and weren't so fucking bored that they died and were even able to survive long enough to play a game that's exactly like it
Jesus christ.
>>321649489
>other peoples opinions are differing from mine
Jesus christ.
>>321648252
LONDON
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>>321649489
Titan's Quest was barely good for it's time. This genre of diablo-clones is so starved we have to take what we get. Grim Dawn is the best thing to happen since D2: LoD for us.
>>321649232
It's not fun at all at earlier levels in my honest opinion. But once the build started coming together, it's been a blast ever since.
>>321649489
It was 'aight if you could go past the first difficulty.Warfare+Roguerepresenting.
>>321649017
Content-wise, yeah.
>>321648943
Are you certain they said it would be officially out of early access and finished by Q4 2015? Either way though, shit gets delayed.
>>321625584
So im downloading this game now...if I want to build the pistol wizard is there something I should know? any tips for a beginner?
Shit on my nipples the last boss is tough on Veteran, how is it doable?
>>321650223
Get chaos resist
Kill the boss as fast as possible and ignore the respawning shit
>>321650223
Load up on chaos resist, learn the moves and avoid them, clear the adds.
If you're underleveled to a few SoT/BoC runs.
>>321650106
Start with Demolitionist and slowly put your points into Fire Strike, take Flashbang too as it helps early on.
Once you can take a second class, take Arcanist and put your points into the first line as well as Mirror of Ecteote or something, the rest is up to you.
>>321650106
Demolitionist/Arcanist are the classes you want.
You also won't be able to dual-wield guns until you get one of the items that enable you to do just that (Of which the earliest one is a lvl 20 epic chest armor, I believe, the most common one is the lvl 25/35/50 relic, though).
Other than that, follow what >>321650375 said.
>>321650515
Also it's literally 100x harder on Elite, so you better get your butthole ready.
UNLIMITED TABS
MOD
FUCKING WHEN
???
>>321650375
>>321650456
Thanks guys! 10 more minutes till it's done downloading and the fun begins!
>>321650223
Just get a couple Black Tallows, slap them on your amulet/medal, and a couple Sanctified Bones, slap them on your chest/head armor, and laugh at the nonexistant damage he doesWhile his endless stream of minions and tentacles wreck your face until you die anyway.
>>321650668
It's aweesome mate.
Best sp arpg on the market.
Tops Titan Quest or Torchlight II and Van Helsing Final Cut. Worth all moniez, official v1.0 will be rlsd in few months.
>>321650664
darth_tyrion.gif
>>321643486
Locked in a class instead of entirely free builds is a feature
Doesn't have something the other has
I'm gonna play online anyway
Having less stuff again
As opposed to "never pay anything, has microtransactions"
Still having less
Good thing you didn't mention having a different setting, atmosphere and skills, or else I might have been interested
does the game fall apart if you do multiplayer?
Getting it for me and a buddy, 999% sure none of our other faggot friends are gonna buy it
>>321647397
This man knows. Burn everything.
pretty sweet
>>321651453
>Rifle
Does it have a good atmosphere and is the loot "satisfying"? So far nothing has matched the satisfaction of the sounds of loot dropping in Diablo 2.
Can you respec skills points? I went Occultist and started leveling up that eyeball skill until I could get my hound, now I'm thinking of going Demolitionist and only putting points into the pets for Occultist.
Eyeball bomb seems kind of useless with Demolitionist skills.
>>321651673
IT'S PAYNE, WHACK HIM.
steam isnt letting me do anything
i just wanna take advantage of this sale
>>321652023
You can respect skill points. There's a woman in the prison that does it.
>>321651673
I want an ability that lets me shootdodge.
>>321651702
Atmosphere is very grim and comfy. Music is great, https://youtu.be/C2FDiVEVGPk
There's some clear Diablo influence with the guitars, but it also does it's own thing.
>>321640670
>Who cares?
You'll regret your words and deeds later. Enjoy getting one shotted.
More webms?
>>321631094
ARPGs are hardly known for their graphics.
>>321651673
GENUINE COCKSUCKER
>>321631970
youre just fucking autistic
>>321639742
Every elemental damage has its DoT counterpart
>fire - burn
>cold - frostburn
>lightning - elecrtocute
>vitality - vitality decay
>acid - poison
>physical - internal trauma
Chaos, pierce and aether damage are flat only, pierce ignores armor. Bleeding is DoT only.
>mfw diablo 3 has only 6 types of damages, all of them tied to weapon dps.
Is it stupid to have both savagery and primal strike?
I've had Titan Quest in my backlog for a few years now and every time I try to play it, it feels so goddamn slow and sluggish. Does it ever get any faster?
I never finished Titan Quest because the game is fucking boring and the UI total garbage.
Is that one any better ?
I remember when they released some trailers back in 2012 or so it seemed extremely ambitious.
>>321652678
>6 types of damages
More like 6 different colors for damage, there's absolutely no gameplay difference between elements in D3
>acquire 2 Legendaries within 15 minutes of each other
>they both work for my build
>>321653201
Yes.
>>321652678
>internal trauma and bleed are two different things
Learn something new all of the time.
>>321620929
All in all, is the game worth buying ?
>>321649941
I never said it. To my knowledge they were aiming to release in Feb 2016
>>321653384
>found 10 in 2 hours
>all of them are for occulist or DW builds
>>321653201
One is an auto-attack that boosts EVERYTHING you do and the other is chain lighting for crowd control, with stuns included (if you didn't stupidly "upgrade" that out).
No, it's not stupid, it's essential though that you max savagery since it boosts Primal Strike's damage.
>>321626776
It has an non jewish droprate and no always online.
>>321652430
>>321653521
>>321652678
Oh and there is retaliation damage too, including some shit like slow movement retaliation from devotion I think.
>>321631094
The artstyle just sucks.
>>321653603
I've got a bunch of legendaries I don't need, looking for occultist gear...
>>321653828
I think it is more of a 'lol grapix' thing, more than art style itself.
>>321653857
I need Soldier/Shaman equip
I think the graphics look fine.
Do I have low standards or are you guys being pedantic about little shit?
does it have random maps
>>321654123
The latter.
>>321654164
The maps are static. Rubble blocking different roads on said static maps are random.
Why are melee Two-Handed Weapons are so OP compared to ranged? There is nothing remotely close damage wise to melee Two-Handed Weapons.
>>321654123
the graphics as in the environment, the textures, the post processing/effects all look fine, its the animations that annoy the shit out of me, like even diablo had better animations and they were fucking sprites.
>>321654324
Because 1-h ranged require the gunslinger talisman to do good damage and the 2-h ranged gain fuckhuge bonus from devotion.
This game is too slow.
>Playing Witchblade (Soldier/Occultist)
>Using Bloody Pox with the Fevered Rage transmuter
>The entire game is just running through the maps, casting Bloody Pox on CD and picking up drops
...Will this work through Elite too? I assume Ultimate is probably gonna fuck me up, unless I farm some of the insanely tanky legendary sets.
>>321655007
That's fair enough. BUT!
Two handed melee weapons don't really need to have anything MORE. They are OP out of the BOX.
So why the fuck the same can't be done with ranged weapons?
>>321647729
the pets can get very VERY op late game, there are some devotion skill to buff them, and you can actually link devotion skills to them
>>321655270
Because ranged weapons don't force you to get pounded while you do some pounding on your own, kinda the point really.
>>321655390
Reminder that pet builds are for homos and women.
>>321655197
why are you not playing on elite ?
>>321655676
Seems like balancing issue more than anything.
>>321655928
You have to beat the game first before you can play Elite.
>>321647729
That depends on your pet damage %
Summoner gear suitable to your build can be pretty hard to find.
>>321655928
Because I haven't yet gotten to the final boss, I'm in the Necropolis now, though, so I'll soon find out if it works in Elite as well, or if I need to get more tanky first.
>>321626776
It doesn't get worse with every update.
just started playing...when leveling up and using skill points, do I just add them at the bottom bar all the way? or just enough to get the skill I want?
Just purchased the game, hope it's better than TQ.
I'm not sure this will be effective late game.
>>321656031
Even in heavy armor a lot of stuff can ruin your day if you get hit too many times.
Are the spawns fixed or randomized ?
What about the maps ?
What do I do if I want to be a gnarly mage
>>321651070
>free builds
This is false. Skill systems never give you the diversity that classes do, skill systems are basically mono-class games with an optimal spec or hand full of specs that min/max to the extreme.
Class based systems give you more freedom by giving you an assortment of different classes, with different playstyles, you pick between. Since the game is based around balancing these complete skill packaged, you can rest assured that each class option is going to be viable. The classes will also be more varied because they are allowed to have more specialty skills or situational utility skills that give the class extra flavor, but would not be worth speccing into in a skill based game over raising something more all around useful.
Skill based systems freedom is a huge lie, a lack of classes means theres only one class, and anyone who thinks otherwise is literally an idiot whos fallen prey to the built up dogmas of cunning PR guys spinning its virtues with empty and obviously false promises.
>>321656323
You have to choose a primary skill to boost usually...
>>321654324
>why do melee weapons do more dps than ranged
Gee, I wonder why. That's how you balance melee versus ranged, idiot.
>>321656559
Spawns are randomized, although it'll always be the same types of mobs in the different areas.
The maps are not random, but there's rubble/trees/whatever blocking pseudo-random paths every time.
>>321656808
thanks famlama
>>321626776
The combat is actually fun and hitting shit feels impactful
Oh fuck I didn't know this game had decisions
>Give hammer to apprentice
>Leave hammer with angry old bald man
Who the fuck do I side with?
Is there any good way to make a significant amount of money? Selling all loot I find barely covers the cost of potions for me.
>>321656567
Occultist. Arcanist a shit.
>>321657126
Angry bald man is the hero we need
Anyone fart enough in the game they can recommend a build or two that will last until "endgame"?
>>321657126
Apprentice gives you more magic-orientet recipes to start with, while angry bald man is more the warrior type, I think. No idea if you can get the recipes of the other one somehow, though, but you can make the other choice when you reach Elite, I guess
>>321657413
>fart enough
hihihihihihi
>>321633764
>980ti
>chugging
m8 wtf
I'm on a 970M and it never leaves 60
>>321657258
do it like any other diablo clone.
farm
inviting people and join their games make loot and shekel drops 10x better so there's that.
>have to decide between playing this and Dungeon Siege 2
>cant get myself to play my level 26 melee char in Grim Dawn
Like honestly, I just stand there and throw feces and molotov cocktails at the enemy, its even more boring than Titan Quest, but those legendaries make me moist
>>321657461
>>321657398
Apparently he doesn't like refugees a whole lot and neither do I.
Angry old warrior man it is
>>321657413
>Fart enough
Are the devs SJWs? Because that's be a deal breaker.
>>321657126
>guy tells me partner stabbed him and took his share of the haul
>go confront the other guy
>claims he's innocent and that guy #1 tried to rape his daughter which is why he's been left bleeding out
>don't know what to do so just extort guy #2 for guy #1's share of the loot and be on my way
>>321657753
If we only had more angry bald men in this world then those refugees would fuck off.
>>321657413
Arcanist/Literally whatever, with tons of points in PRM. AAR, Maiven's, and a few points in mirror of erectus will get you through Ultimate no problem, as long as you get some legendaries that helps the build.
So I started it up the other day, when does the game start having some challenge?
>>321657505
I fart all of the time so I can safely tell you that Witchblade OP
>>321657461
>No idea if you can get the recipes of the other one somehow
Pretty sure you can just create another character and choose the other one, since recipes are shared it should unlock everything on both of them.
>>321652672
Sure thing, keep your F2P game, and your "SHOP NOW FOR MORE STASH TABS"
It's not a gameplay advantage, you just need to get good.
>>321657942
Never. It doesn't start to get good either.
>>321657840
Can't help but notice that guy #2's daughter is nowhere in sight, makes you wonder if that's even true.
So I opened this thread up just now, when does the anon above me start having some taste?
>>321657941
Thanks man. Occultist work as the secondary pretty well?
>>321657840
>don't take his word for it and kill him
>his daughter shows up later to take revenge
>she drops a family heirloom when killed
>>321657942
Tried on veteran yet?
>havent played for ages
>reputation equipment
>devotions
Holy fuck, might be playing that again, but its been a while since I played and back I wanted to be a gunslinger with a shield, but no clue if that still works and I dont really want to make a new character.
Is this salvageable?
>>321658456
Just try it
If it doesn't work out you could always just respec your points, it's not very expensive
>play with friends
>blow up boulder
>secret cave
>little girl in there
>friend decides to save her
What a dickhead
>go to where we supposedly sent her
>whole camp is dead
>she's a demon
BIG SURPRISE DICKHEAD
>>321658456
Skill point removal is dirt cheap, so probably.
>>321658304
Definitely. I'd recommend picking up Solael's Witchfire (1 point) with the Second Rite (maxed), and maybe some Curse of Frailty points when you start getting gear with + to arcanist, PRM, or AAR so you can use more points. And of course use the transmuter on AAR to make it deal Chaos damage. PRM will decimate any lesser mobs, AAR will completely melt anything stronger, just make sure you put enough into spirit so you have energy regen, heh.
You'll probably have to do some grinding after unlocking Ultimate, though, it's a very skill point-intensive build.
As a Soldier/Shaman what passive should I concentrate on raising the most? What about 2nd most?
Do buffs like Iskandra's Elemental Exchange apply on spells as well or just weapon attacks?
>>321658772
oh forgot to mention its a two handed melee build.
>>321658697
Thanks.
>>321658772
Can't remember the name, passive buff that regens health and energy in the Shaman tree is GOAT.
>>321658824
Spells as well, the bonus is to the character as a whole, not just autoattacks.
>>321658456
Drop the blackwater cocktail, max the Fire Strike line, get cannister bomb and grab some passives from the Soldier Tree.
>>321659048
I dont see any skills that regen energy. You dont mean Feral Hunger do you? Thats attack damage to health, but does nothing for energy.
>>321659443
He means Mogdrogen's Pact (5 points in, bottom row), it's not a passive, but a toggled skill.
>>321659443
He means Mogdrogen's Pact, it's an aura, not a passive though.
Sabouter build?
>>321659419
Holy shit, you are right that canister bomb is way better.
Dont remember that one from back in the day.
>>321659874
Don't use it for the damage, put one point in it and 3 into the modifier for 100% stun chance.
>>321648001
According to the etymology of the word, succubus basically means "slut" derived from the word succubare which essentially means "to lie under"
>>321660049
Oh.
Does it work on bosses?
Is there a way to quickly move components into the chest or transfer chest?
>>321660308
Shift+click
>>321626776
fun builds doesn't get nerfed into oblivion
the drop rate is fun and not masochistic
>>321620929
is it just single player?
Hue, getting the soldiers passives and the bomb was such a good deal.
>>321660934
Nah you can host and join mp games.
Shit looks like a lot of fun. Sucks I don't have the money for it. How does it compare to PoE?
Been doing my first trips into Elite difficulty and got my shit pushed in at defiled altars, where 4 elites with different elements spawned. Especially the DoT poison elite was laughing all through my 10 or so deaths.
Finally switched back to normal and started to properly use components and powders to get my resistances up again and Elite has been now, at least up to Cronley's demise. Sturdier mobs than on normal, with some heavy hitters turning up now and again.
I like about the component/powder/devotion mechanics, that you have some leniency and additional options to make the equipment you find work, even if you don't have the perfect items for your class. If you lack resistances or hitting power or even want a different main attack, you can do so by fine tuning those other options.
Currently on my way to unlock Oleron's constellation after just theorycrafting for an hour about which devotions to get. Even the lower ones are cool. I just love when Falcon Swoop fires in all directions and stuff starts dropping
best devotions for 2h electric warder?
>>321657942
Motherfucking smuggler's pass that's where.
>>321656672
Gee, shit game is shit. Try justify this.
>>321662070
>...and Elite has now been a blast,...
fixed
>>321662409
>being this salty
>>321620929
Nightblade master race.
>>321662959
>implying implications
>want to play as a Bloodborne-style Hunter
>decide to go for a Nightblade/Occultist combo
What should I be putting points into for maximum beast slaying?
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