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Post Couriers, discuss the world's various factions, just get the fuck in.
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Niner is best companion
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>>321533039
That's a funny way to spell Cass.
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>>321533039
>>321533157
You guys are shit at spelling ED-E
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>>321532704
little girl low str. high luck and agi rest avarge.
uses energy weapons despite not knowing how to use or weild them. get around just by random chance and luck.
ton of fun.
also gannon best companion. and what the fuck is up with veronica? why is she so fucking cheery?
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>tfw had yuri sex with Red Lucy
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>>321533273
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>>321533523
>no smoke rising from the burned insides of hidden valley
you don't deserve ed-e
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Just got this from the Steam sale. It's better than Fallout 3 or 4, right?
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>>321533675
i wish i had created that image
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>>321533707
miles
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>>321533478
>tfw when her vagina lived up to her name.
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>>321533707
i think of Fallout 3 and 4 as non-canon spin-offs while New Vegas is a canon sequel to Fallout 2.
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>>321533707
I got it from the sale as well. It's much better than Bethesda Fallouts.
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>>321533797
He means you'll walk miles in game without anything to do, not even a mountain to climb.
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If you don't kill Ulysses and nuke both sides whilst siding with Yes Man, then get the fuck out of my face.
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>>321533920
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WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE EASY PETE??
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>>321533936
I didn't kill Ulysses.

I made him a companion.
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Playing as a Bi-sexual/Lesbian (same thing since they both like penetration) woman is fun.
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>>321532704
you do realise this game has a sequel right...
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>>321533850
>>321533797
>>321533916
Good. I rented Fallout 4 for a while, and while I did like the whole gameplay, it still felt a little empty.

Now I gotta see if my laptop can actually play it, or if I should start investing in a gaming PC or Steam machine or something.
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>>321534117
well be prepared, the map of new vegas feels empty as fuck too, but the rest top notch
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>>321534026
because he doesn't give you the dynamite without passing a skill check despite needing 0 explosives skill to use it
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>>321534117
It depends on what kind of Laptop. Mine runs it fine, but not as good as a High End rig.
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>>321534087
Yeah and it's shit.

You don't have to constrain yourself to the latest game in a series, you know.
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You guys should see how unfriendly Bethdrones can be when they see these threads.

Some guy just kept spamming yuri porn and although they got banned for it, the thread got derailed so much they had to delete it.

Then there is that frequent use of the word "autism" every time someone makes a lengthy explanation or critique.
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>>321532704
S - 6
P - 8
E - 6
C - 6
I - 9
A - 6
L - 6

Jack Link, courier and prospector extraordinaire.
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Just about to start a new play though after finishing slogging through fallout 4.

Energy Weapons this time I think.
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>>321534461
>LOL u liek story in ur RPG?? Its just about guns and armor loool!!!

t.bethesdrone
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>>321534237
also, that early in the game, unless you tag explosives, enjoy running around trying to get XP to pass it
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Why would you still play this with F4 out?
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>>321534518
>cheating
I thought games were for fun
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>Join the Legion
>They're a bunch of gay dudes with a shitty goal for the country
>Join NCR
>Try to uphold justice, just in a really shitty way
>Join House
>New Vegas only, rest of the world isn't worth saving
>Join Yes Man
>I do what I want, just not for the betterment and restoration of humanity

The factions were pretty shit in New Vegas.
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Haven't played the game in years. Wanna do a rootin tootin cowboy. Build suggestions?
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>>321534653
Because it's shit.
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>>321534653
see
>>321534604
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>>321534653
Fallout 4 is not an RPG.
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>>321534726
t. bethesdrone
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>>321534518
6
6
7
1
6
6
7

that is my build for everything
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>>321534743
Use the Ranger Sequoia, and the NCR ranger outfit with the Desperado Cowboy hat.
Tag skills; Guns, Speech, Survival.
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>>321534743
Play it on a PC.
Write out a character sheet.
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I've got a question about vehicles. In Goodsprings there's a bunch of motorbikes clearly parked in front of the bar and in Novac that one singer has a bike that he clearly rode from New Reno and is trying to fix, since there's parts scattered all around his room. Furthermore, a lot of NCR places, especially McCarran, have trucks parked around in a way that suggests they drove them there. Considering the Highwayman from F2, which the Chosen One fixed according to guidelines from that mechanic guy, are these vehicles supposed to be functioning? It would certainly make sense with NCR's level of development.
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>>321534778
>>321534815
Why? Because you say?
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>>321534726
Yeah for my first playthrough I was about to choose NCR but the problem is that they interfere with so many factions so I just went with Yes Man
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>>321534726
they weren't perfect but just possible solutions. Only House had long-term goals but they were so fucked up that you would be better off leaving the Mojave altogether.
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I'm just about to finish my hardcore 100% cheevo run and holy shit it's been a ride. The DLCs are amazing and I can't remember the last time I actually had fun listening to NPCs rant on about the world and their problems.

I've entered Lost Road now and it's pretty cool.
New Vegas is an amazing game, and the only things that kind of bother me is how shit the Guns category is at lower levels. You don't get the cool shit like Brush Guns until much later in the game and it's a shame because I'd love to use a lever action rifle earlier.

That being said Holorifle is my raifu.
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>>321534906
>1 char
I cheat to add more points just because the idea of having an autistic sperg for my character ruins the plauthrough.
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>>321535037
That's just my experience. I like New Vegas better than Fallout 4.
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>>321535037
i'm not going to buy it, Todd. And if i ever decide to play 4 i would pirate it.
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>>321535179
>not roleplaying as an autistic cowboy
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>>321535179
Charisma perks are useless and adding in new perks with mods is hard work.
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>>321534981
The falloutverse definitely has some motor vehicles, but I think a lot of the time people just don't move them or leave them around for aesthetic appeal.
Pack brahmin are still the best form of transportation for most people.
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>>321535381
>getting mods
>hard work
Litterally download NMM and make an account.
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>>321535179
depends on the character for me, if it's a tough cowboy or merc type then I imagine it's more that they don't say much, or just don't use words to solve problems that can be solved with bullets. so I almost never bother with charisma.
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>>321535626
i'm talking about making them yourself.
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Barter is a surprisingly comfy skill. It basically gives you free money and the Pack Rat perk is easily one of my favorites for Hardcore. I can't remember a single other modern rpg that rewarded you for being a jew.
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>>321535179
Considering every point of charisma gives your followers 5% damage it's hardly wasted, so I don't see why you'd not at least rank it up to 4 or some shit.

If you're running Boone/Arcade and ED-E with Followers upgrade you can literally just never fight anything ever again if you have like 5 charisma
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going through honest hearts.

why
is
this
so
bad
:(
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>>321535947
At least Joshua is cool anon.
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>>321532704
>>>/vg/
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>>321536017
no

not even
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>>321535947
it just is. Sawyer wanted everything done on time and that's why it was so plain.

>>321536063
/fog/ is fucking shit. we don't want them there and they don't want us there. and thanks for the bump.
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>caravan of tuna
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fuck it. i'll just post this.

feel free to read it if you want.
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>>321536063
>implying /fog/
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I always feel fucking immortal at around level ~20 when I get to new vegas and do some quests on the strip.

Are the dlc enemies much tougher? I feel like the game ends at this point but there's so much content left
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>>321534625
If you check the mail boxes you should find patriots cookbook.

Shit aint hard
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>>321536145
>>321536350
>>>/vg/
Just make a NV general you niggers. Fuck off with these daily threads.
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>>321536616
why do you not complain about the other video game discussion threads that go on every single day? why must you target this one in particular? why don't you hide them?
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>>321536616
Yeah, just pick some info of the Fallout 3/NV pastebin and create a /nvg/ - New Vegas General
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>>321536451
As soon as you get a good weapon that's effective at sniping and close range confrontations with enough other skills to hack/lockpick/talk/SCIENCE your way through every challenge, you're done.

Hell an upgraded Laser Rifle with special ammo can absolutely destroy any enemy in the game, and you can get it very early on.

I enjoyed Dead Money a lot because the enemies were annoying, but also because you lost all your equipment which actually made you feel weak and made you play carefully. It's really hard to make enemies challenging to a high level player without making them bullet sponges to anyone that's not power gaming. I'd just give everything more DT so it forces you to use proper ammo but even that can only go so far
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>4, 6, 6, 6, 8, 7, 3
I'm using CCO so CHA is actually useful. Boone + ED-E master race, and I have space for one more.
ED-E is op as shit, the ammu changes of CCO don't concern him so he still has infinite lasers, he single handedly killed Vulpes's gang in Nipton
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>>321536849
There are no other daily threads for games as old as this.
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The modding content is really disappointing.
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>>321533157

What's the best way to deal with the Cass/van Graff situation? I'm worried I might accidentally get her killed.
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>>321536937
So by the time I'm done with dead money I'm gonna be way too strong to enjoy the challenge of the other dlc/etc?
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>>321537050
and your point is? The fact that the mods do not delete these threads tells you all you need to know.

So now you can either deal with that or try to derail the thread by spamming inappropriate content so it can get deleted but I can just make another one.
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>>321533707

Oh yes, don't listen DLC shills though. Stay in the Wasteland.
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>>321537108
i got her killed, and it wasn't an accident.
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>>321533039

Why wasn't Nick Valentine a new Vegas character? UGHHHH.
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>>321537108
Do whatever you feel like doing anon. I hear you can get both perks if you solve the quest peacefully but then murder them anyway.

So either roleplay or powergame.
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>>321535947
It's just a series of fetch quests, then a leisurely stroll down the river. End.
Look for the survivalist's notes, because that's the only worthwhile thing in the whole DLC.

Sorry you're going through this, anon.
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>>321537415
Fallout 4 has Nick Valentine but New Vegas has That Gun.
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>>321537426
yeah this is an unintended bug. But it's not like she needed those perks anyways.
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>>321537505
Fallout is a retro future universe. It should've had at least one badass Noir-style companion before 4 claimed it. Pisses me off, all the fags will call Nick shit just because he's in 4. It's not fucking fair. Some asshat who said he didn't even play 4 said "NICK IS FLAT AS A BOARD CASS IS A REAL PERSON"

I just want anti fags to fuck off
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>>321537505
which looks like shit in game
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>>321536451
>Are the dlc enemies much tougher?
they will fuck you up at higher levels. the disparity between the mojave and the DLC is astonishing.
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What levels are the best to play the DLCs? I'm concerned if I'm too high leveled all the enemies will be bullet sponges
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>>321537281
Your character is already a God at lvl 20, but Dead Money will kick you down a notch since your biggest enemy is the environment and lack of stuff you can use.

Honest hearts are just piss easy always because you're fighting a bunch of shitty armored tribals you can butcher however you like even though some of them hit like trucks. Old World blues also strips you naked and puts you up against some pretty tough enemies, especially at higher levels so I'd consider it kind of challenging, and Lonesome Road lets you carry all of your shit with you but it's a pretty endgame area so take that as you will.

The challenge of the game is removed with your gear basically. You're never gonna die when you have infinite stimpacks and amazing armor. Some deathclaws can still one shot you but you can just stealth kill those anyway.
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>>321537841

I honestly think vanilla Vegas is worse than shit, the DLC -actually- has random encounters and shit, even if it is just enemy spawns. Much more frequent and entertaining than the massive boring empty Mojave.
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>>321537882
they tell you a recommended minimum level just before entering and then you can click 'no' if you're not ready.

it won't matter what level you are if you are above the minimum because enemies have player level scaling in the DLC.
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>>321537882
Dead Money doesn't really matter, but Honest Hearts should be Level 15-20, Old World Blues should be Level 20-25, and Lonesome Road 25-30.
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>>321536451
take logans loophole on your next playthrough
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>>321537984
Ty for the answers. I'll finish doing the brotherhood and enclave quests since I never did those properly and head to all the dlc I think.
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>>321537994
you are so correct about that. the DNB Random Encounter Mod does it no justice. It is simply not randomized enough.

in the normal base game once you kill a bunch of humans they don't spawn for a long time and are usually much weaker than you.

also another interesting note is that there is only one always-hostile enemy type in the entire game that you can freely kill with no faction repercussions that wield Energy Weapons in the entire base game: Fiends.

I am pretty sure the developers realized this mistake and made many enemies in the DLCs use energy weapons more frequently.
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>>321538202
but I'm not even level 30 yet
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>>321535037
Roleplaying
Playing in the role of a character that you have created
that you have created
you

F:NV - Well, your character is a courier and a human being, you decide the rest. Open ended even in it's endings.
F4 - Pre-voiced, shit dialogue, 2 endings.
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>didnt enjoy fallout 3, gave up close before the end because it was boring and somehow annoying

is nv better ? i see threads about it almost everyday
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>>321538636
It's miles better.
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>>321537306
Yeah, because the mods on /v/ do an absolutely stellar job of enforcing the rules right? The fact that they don't delete e-celeb, console war and FFS pony shit sometimes just goes to show how stupid that point is. Fuck off to /vg/ and make a new general if you're triggered by bethesda games.
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>>321536616
If you don't like it, don't view it.
Simple.
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>>321538636
Yes, get the DLC too
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Unpopular opinion coming through.

HH>LR>OWB>DM

The survivalist logs were one of the biggest highlights of my first run. Thought Zion was super pretty, my only complaint being the plane you can't get to up on a mesa.
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>>321538636
depends on what you didn't like about f3. if it was the combat and animations, then new vegas is the same shit for example. so what didn't you like about 3?
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>>321538636

No.

Ignore all the memers, it's the same game but slightly different dialogue. "MUH choices" is an illusion.
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>>321538920
and there is always this fag in every thread. if you think new vegas and f3 are the same thing, you didn't play either of them very thorough
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>>321538713
you seem to be the only one that is notably upset about all this. it would save you a lot of time (and pain) if you would stop posting in this thread and simply hide it.
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>>321538845
It has more weapon variety and iron sights at least along with an ammo crafting system. That's miles better than FO3 at least.

Not saying it's not shit, but at least they bothered to spray it with deodorant.
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>>321538094
isn't this the order they're kind of supposed to be played in storywise too?
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>>321538845
>>321538920
didnt like the combat, well
how often can you return the games back on steam ? did it for the first time today
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What's the best weapon and why is it Holorifle?
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>Set up mods for new run
>Think everything is a-okay because things have been working for the most part
>Suddenly a fatal flaw for a mod occurs that isn't reproduced easily without having played for awhile
>Mod was the reason you even decided to make a new character in the first place

Anyone else experience this?
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>>321538713
You've made your point.
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>>321539220
why did you purchase a game if you were unsure you would have fun playing it?
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>>321539109
Chronologically Honest Hearts don't matter at all, and the rest go OWB>DM>LR
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>>321539220
well then you probably won't like new vegas much either. basics are the same, with slightly more customization in ammo types and such, but gunplay is identical, same goes for vats
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>>321537882
Do NOT fucking go to lonesome road after 45. I was 50 and deatchlaws literally one shot me in power armor (on normal, now try that on very hard). The scaling is fucking retarded.
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>>321539220
>>321539385
i will add to this: if you have to go through the trouble to make the game fun and playable for your own specific tastes then you shouldn't bother with the game at all.
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>>321537050
Do you live on this board and keep count or something? Can you verify this statement with factual evidence?
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>>321539321
Story wise it's DM>OWB>LR

While OWB's past events with Elijah and co. happened before Dead Money's present events, OWB campaign ends with a line
>Only one road yet remained, and it was one the Courier had to walk alone.
Meaning you're supposed to play LR right after it.
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>>321539321
wouldn't it be more interesting to play DM first, wonder about what the fuck this Big MT thing is and THEN find out for yourself?
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>>321539474
I don't think the button clicking part of the game is fun at all but I have over 100 hours clocked in the game because it has an engaging storyline and a fun world.
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>>321539474
if i can match it to my taste 100% then i honetsly don't care how much "effort" it is (clicking a few things in nexus is really tough) to do it. it's a the sane approach to "wait till that ONE game for me will be made by a dev someday"
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>>321539049

I did. Fallout 3 not only has more content, but random encounters. That copy pasta image of the side quests is pointless because what WOULD BE UNMARKED quests in 3 like tiny fetch this tasks is all given quests status in NV. It's lazy programming to give the illusion of more content. They could've put in random encounters at any time and instead thought having visible water tanks and farms that just could've been implied through dialogue was more important than gameplay. They wasted their dev time.
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I just recently finished my first playthrough of NV. Honest Hearts was so terrible but the other DLC was good. Lonesome Road turned out pretty disappointing though. When you're talking to the other courier through ED-E his voice acting and the things that you talk about him with piqued my interest and I was fairly hyped for meeting him. Then you meet him and his motives boil down to "You delivered a package you were never told about, to a place you've never heard if, to a people you have never met and it ruined everything, and I blame you." Talk about retarded, it would've been better if the package that you delivered was part of the main NV quest line and the lonesome road isn't unlocked until you complete a certain bunch of other main quests after delivering the package.
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>>321539749
it's not just about the number of quests, it's about what you can do to complete them. In that NV has 3 beat.
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>>321539749
>They wasted their dev time
Bethesda is really good at doing that
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House is best choice for the future of the Mojave. Legion jokers and NCR fags need not apply.
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>>321539830

In that respect, but they failed to draw me in even a little within 3 hours of gameplay. I feel that's not the mark of a good game.
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>>321534026
Because I'm not a filthy casual. Were he Hardcore Pete, he'd be my best friend.
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>>321539749
FO3 had random encounters? So that's why retarded shit like Deathclaws fighting Sentry bots was everywhere.
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>>321537984
>You're never gonna die when you have infinite stimpacks

If there's one fundamental flaw to hardcore mode, it's that there's such a thing as weightless items. And most of them are fucking combat chems.

Imagine if you couldn't just RPG it up and have a giant inventory, but had to carry a backpack if you wanted to stash your library of magazines and mountain pile of drugs which would then affect your balance and flexibility?

I mean fuck you're identity is a courier, would it kill you to sacrifice some traditional RPG elements in favor of oh I dunno implementing some mailman mechanics? They should have let you optionally mod ED-E into a fucking floating storage device armed with lasers instead of having this magical space that lets it carry as much as your super mutant granny despite being only the size of her head.
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>>321539819
the guy was obsessed after surviving the devastation at The Divide of this whole idea that one man can change the course of history.

He then proceeded to have a "Bogus Journey" to rediscover himself.
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>>321540110
>your excellent adventure
>against his bogus journey
pottery
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>>321539236

Laser RCW for me, at least that's my backup when everything goes to shit.
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>>321539926
Found the profligate.
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>>321539561

HH you mean. SEETHING CASUAL
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>>321539957
Excuse me but what? 3 hours into the game you find escaped convicts harassing a neighboring town as well as fucking nutjob Legionaries wearing football armor nailing people to a cross. All that while the radio is playing some cheesy cowboy tune.

What the fuck does a game have to do to draw you into its world?

I'm not even gonna start shitting on you for not playing FO1 and 2 because that would be unfair and I can't reasonably expect people to have played ancient games like those even though they're miles better than the turds that were FO3 and 4
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>>321535397
fuck it would be great to have a Fallout game with functioning cars again.
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>>321540070
in the JE Sawyer mod stimpaks have weight and all normal stimpacks have been replaced with Stimpaks-Expired which heal less and give you the same debuffs as healing powder. Regular Stimpaks exist in the game but you have to make them.
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>>321540070
If you're a sneaky cunt with survival you can survive on the critters you kill easily enough. Food can never be as good as stimpacks but it comes really close if you level survival.
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Worth getting the NV DLCs?
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>>321540750
Yes.
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>>321532704

Traits:

Logan's Loophole
Four Eyes


Special:

3 - 6 with Perks and implant
6 - 10 with Lucky shades, implant and beret
6 - 8 with implant and extra point
1 - 1 noone needs CHR
7 - 8 with implant
9 - 10 with implant
8 - 10 with Lucky shades and implant


Perks:

Rapid Reload
Light Touch
Hand Loader
Cowboy
Finesse
Sniper
Chemist
Better Criticals
Robotics Expert
Silent Running
Action Boy/Action Girl
Action Boy/Action Girl
Toughness
Toughness
Tunnel Runner


Weapons:

-Lucky
-Medicine Stick
-Silenced .45 Auto


Armor:

-1st Recon Beret
-Courier Duster/Graham's Armor
-Lucky Shades
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I like new vegas but goddamn why is the gunplay so bad. This is like somenone's first attempt at making an fps
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>>321540750
Unlike retarded Fallout DC, New Vega's DLC are god-tier and offer an unique experience in each DLC.
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>>321540913
I really hate how they made the Beret so fucking broken and acquired early on. Oh hey take this weightless hat that gives you 5% crit chance and perception, free of charge in the second town you find
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>>321539819
>Talk about retarded, it would've been better if the package that you delivered was part of the main NV quest line and the lonesome road isn't unlocked until you complete a certain bunch of other main quests after delivering the package.
This was my main beef with LR as well. The other DLC really managed to hype up this mysterious other Courier who caused all the other DLC events, even you getting shot in the head in the main game, but then his grand plan is nothing but shitty sort of revenge. I get the big idea of "one man can easily change the course of history, even by accident", but the whole Divide deal is just retarded. It happened long before you were ever in control of your character, the event is never foreshadowed or mentioned anywhere else in the game (save maybe one optional tape in OWB) and like you said your own character wasn't even responsible for it.

I ended up liking LR more on my new playthrough, since the desperation and atmosphere of the Divide is really good and it feels much more "final level-like" compared to the lackluster Hoover Dam battle. Ulysses is also pretty much the only interesting Legion character along with Caesar himself and you can have some good dialogue with him if you're in good terms with the Legion yourself. The DLC in general were nice in a way that they all had this one underlying story connecting them together, but had the problem of connecting properly with the main game. It doesn't really make sense for the Courier to sign up to random caravans or go treasure hunting for legendary locales when he's most likely already in the middle of Mojave Wasteland politics.
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>>321540986
Even if the guns themselves felt good it wouldn't matter because you're fighting souless poorly animated unfinished Gamebryo abominations that just spazz out and shit damage without you ever knowing how or what happened.
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I really want to replay NV, but after playing Fallout 4, I've gotten really used to that control scheme when using containers and shit, is there any way to change the controls for that so I don't have to hit fucking A or X for some menues and R or E on others?
The only thing that really bothers me about it is the inconsistency between menues
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>>321541179
There is literally no reason to use other helmets when you go light/medium armor. Yes, its very unbalanced.
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>>321539421
The scaling is totally fucked, all the marked men at level 50 are too easy so are the tunnelers. The deathclaws are the only worry in that DLC
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>>321541439
>playing Fallout with a controller
but why
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>>321541206

Yeah like I said, with the exception of HH I enjoyed all the DLC. I think probably the main reason for my particular gripe is that in the entirety of the game and the previous DLC, with the exception of the very start of the game which gives you the story of the situation you're in, none of the events that are caused by your own actions are outside of the player control. You choose who to kill, which factions to empower and so forth. The package contradicted what I can only assume was a very deliberate writing style to make the player feel personally responsible for his decisions.
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>>321541605
I'm not, though.
At least with a controller the buttons tend to be consistent, if only because there aren't as many
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>>321541809
i think there is some game file you can open in notepad where you can directly change certain keys but you should probably read up on that before doing so
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>play game on Hard
>it's easy as shit but I can die to MAGICAL AMBUSHES BY BASED CAESAR since I use light armor
>want to switch to very hard
>realize it'll just be a stealth kill simulator
Nah fuck it. When will games feature actually meaningful difficulty sliders? Fuck this % increase. And yes I'm playing on hardcore
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>>321542216
The real difficuly is Normal.
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OBLIGATORY DLC RANKINGS
>God Tier
Dead Money, Point Lookout
>Good Tier
Old World Blues, The Pitt
>Okay Tier
Honest Hearts
>Bad Tier
Lonesome Road, Broken Steel
>Shit Tier
Operation:Anchorage
>Aliens started the Great War Tier
Mothership Zeta
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>>321542353
>pit
>Point look out
>good
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>>321542437
>Pitt
>not good
What was wrong with it?
I found all 100 ingots why am I so autistic
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how does it feel knowing liberty prime can beat frank horrigan
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>>321542216
The moment I realized playing on Very Hard was doing nothing but making my weapons weaker and enemies stronger, I switched to normal
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Fun times with Benny.
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>>321542437
Not even defending Fallout 3 here, but just because it's DLC for that game, it doesn't make it bad.

The Pitt and Point Lookout are a lot closer to what Fallout originally was than the vanilla game they were attached too.
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>>321542503
Me too, anon.
I went into that area kind of freaked out, I was poorly armed and everything wanted to kill me and it was spooky and I'm kind of a huge pussy.
I left that place as a man.
A man carrying a ton of iron
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>>321540583
XRE Cars
>http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/49042/?

Drivable Motorcycle
>http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/40645/?
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>>321542650
>cannibal loli with white hair
I bet you gave her red eyes too
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>>321542353
Lemme fix that 4u
>God Tier
>not OWB
>not Lonesome Road
>Point Lookout and The Pitt that high
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>>321542216
>being bad
Hard, Hardcore and JSawyer is the only way to play. Most enemies die just as quick as they can kill you.
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>>321542503
>>321542715
>wearing a power armor
>stand there like an idiot while a few faggots hit me with a bar
>force to be a slave
>not using Barter to convince them that you're a merchant and go straight to the leader
>MUH CURE
>use bandits as guards
And more and more shit just keep piling up on that stupid story.

>>321542715
>The Pitt and Point Lookout are a lot closer to what Fallout originally was than the vanilla game they were attached too.
Not even close. If Point Lookout was close to the original, there would have been 4 or 5 ways of getting into the church without getting you brain drill, including a low intelligence check where they think your retardedness is a gift of the gods and they will let you in the church right away. Both DLC are heavily flawed
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>>321542216
>>321542351
>>321542587
>lol no damage
>not playing in very hard + additional increased difficulty mods
Don't make shit builds niggers
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>>321540592
That's just one item. Everyone carries around a library with them, and has enough pre-war money to swim in.

The repair/durability system was most likely designed so you had an incentive to ditch a weapon mid-quest and pick up something else, yet because you can have a fucking armory in your inventory all that happens is either some guy has 6 of his best poke-err I mean weapons to use and swap out, or is filled with weapon repair kits and spare parts to jury rig.

And the sad part is, even if you intentionally gimped yourself to play with a realistic amount of carrying capacity and grabbed new weapons to fight with off the corpses and shit, there's never enough ammo available because every enemy somehow only has enough ammo to last themselves for gecko hunting in the evening. Carrying ammo for guns you don't even have but are prepared to pick up? That don't make sense.

In the end engine limitation, time limitation, and well working for Bethesda is a serious killer. Yet Obsidian isn't good enough to make their own engine.

>>321540694
That only kinda works. Say you don't wanna be a guy lugging a backpack around, how many bottles of water can you realistically carry on you when you wear a merc grunt outfit to RP in? Yeah, like two one for each cargo pants pocket. Oh guess that means you're not storing ammo.

Food is still tolerable even if you go super realistic and only carry packaged food and eat cooked stuff on the spot, cause food and sleep increase slow as balls.

But thirst and ammo? Ehhh no, especially not in higher difficulties when the enemy becomes a sponge, though to be fair any changes in mechanics wouldn't rely on archaic difficulty settings.
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>>321542353
I can agree with that. A problem I have with Point Lookout is that it felt too empty to me. I think it really needed an actual settlement. That whole boardwalk area would have been perfect for one.
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>>321543008
My build
>>321540913

Besides, the difficulty slider only changes the amount of damage you do and receive.
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>>321542882
Nah that'd be a tad bit too much
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>>321532704
>S 10
>P 5
>E 8
>C 4
>I 4
>A 6
>L 3

Using bumper sword and marked patrol armour for that full jury rigged road work look. True mercenary, always get the job done, never betray your employer to retain credibility. Not good with people so only travel with ED-E and ED-E alone.
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>>321542917
If you don't like the SCIENCE!! theme they were going for with OWB, it won't really appeal to you. There is far too much talking and far too many enemies which are inflated by artificial difficulty. I enjoyed the characters though.

Lonesome Road is a weak finale to FNV. It will forever be overshadowd by three things:

Ulysess being very underwhelming as a character. You'd think with a character with all this build up he'd pay off, but no, he just rambles on in metaphors, about a plan which has no real motive.

It ruins the backstory of the courier. It falls under the same criticisms of Bethesda Fallouts because it's trying to give too much backstory to your character, which isn't needed in a ROLEPLAYING GAME.

The Tunnelers are meme tier, mary sue enemies. By far the worse thing Obsidian have introduced into the Fallout lore. Still, its nothing compared to what Bethesda has done with it.
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Recommend some songs for me to add.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1mw4ImMUmQ
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>>321542941
>>321543008
You guys keep talking as if needing 3 bullets to hit a guy is somehow harder than 1 or 2 in the context of a Gamebryo game. You can snipe any and all enemies at least 6 times before they reach you even with their glitchy poorly made animations.

But I do keep hearing shit about that Jsawyer mod, what does it do exactly? Unless it actually improves the AI and adds new animations I don't see how it could really impact the game

Unless that
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>>321543478
El Paso - Marty Robbins

Should have been in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIRL_iu3eQM
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>>321543473
>too much backstory
it does nothing of the sort. Your only backstory was that you were a courier. It adds nothing more.
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>>321543546
JSawyer is effectively Hardcore mode+.
The biggest difference is reduced HP for you and enemies, making things feel less damage spongey.

It's still gamebryo though, so take it with a pinch of salt.
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So I played recently Fallout 2, and I found myself in a game full of fetch quests, with a bigger map than Fallout 1 that doesn't really adds a lot, references to pop culture, a exaggerated and unfair RNG and overall a game with less interesting main storyline and characters than Fallout 1.

And I would like to know if its me or this game really is considered worst than the first Fallout, which was engaging since the beginning and felt fair and interesting all the time, while Fallout 2 has more bugs, more meaningless content, more bullshit in combat and clearly cut content.
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>>321537050
Why are you so booty blasted about people talking about video games on /v/?
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>>321532704
I just got this from the sale, any must have mods for the game?
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>>321537415
>image.jpg

You're the same autistic husbando Valentine obsessive who keeps posting on /fog/

seriously fuck off already.
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>>321544330
Play vanilla first. It holds up on it's own first time.
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>Try to play an evil or at least somewhat neutral character
>Still end up full Jesus at the end
Guys I can't into roleplay help
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>>321544243
The game does feel a bit bloated, but I don't really feel it's in any way inferior to FO1. It's a different game, it's much more focused on the world and its progress than the main story compared to FO1. The games compliment each other nicely and I don't really feel like there should be a competition for a "better" game between them
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>>321542353
Point Lookout and The Pitt are MASSIVELY overrated.

Point Lookout is OKAY. But realistically it's about on par with Honest Hearts.

The Pitt is legitimately shit. It's tiny, the location is mildly interesting, and the "deep grey moral choice" that Beth fans spout on about is just a choice of two turds. Literally nobody is right and it just makes you want to fuck off and leave both of them alone, but you don't have that option. It's the same line of thinking as Skyrim's civil war where Bethesda thinks "moral greyness" is just making everyone shitty.
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>>321544563
Well that's because people, in the real world, do evil things because they will profit from it. Why would you be mean to people for no reason when you're already filthy rich and probably the single most powerful individual on the continent even if you're a good guy?

Games never understand this shit. You shouldn't have a good and bad option, you should have a good option with literally no reward and a bad option with a massive reward. That's how you test people and their moral compass
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>>321544378

Suck my dick, assho'.
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>>321544789
No really m8, hes right. Fuck off.
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>>321534026

piece of shit won't give you his dynamite

I'M TRYIN TO SAVE THE TOWN EASY PETE
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>>321542353

no FO3 DLC is above okay tier
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>yfw you see these motherfuckers for the first time
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RING A DING DING BABY
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>>321545214
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>>321545214
I backpedal like in every game Bethesda made since Morrowind.
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>>321545223
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiP6_swexD0
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>>321544631
I legimately enjoyed The Pitt, but I can totally see where you are coming from with your points.

The factions are unbelievably underdeveloped. I can remember playing it the first time thinking "hey this is shaping up to be pretty good", only for the final quest to be sprung onto me almost imediately after I arrived. It's such a shame because if it was given the time (and a decent company making it), The Pitt would be great spin-off from the West Coast storyline.

If you think about it, The Pitt has:
>no super mutants. It doesn't acknowledge the lore breaking, bullshit Vault 87 variety even when the player asks the slaves about their mutant problem
>ACTUAL Brotherhood of Steel. The backstory to The Pitt actually has the BoS being dicks for the sake of their ideology, rather than beacons of morality in power armour.
>somewhat decent characters. Ashur, again if developed by a company who can actually write decent games, would be a very compelling addition to the Fallout lore.
>a great setting and atmosphere. The orange, fog lit skies of The Pitt are very eery, and the fresh, black steel mixed with the ruins of Pittsburgh make a interesting place to look at. More importantly, it doesn't contradict existing Fallout lore. The Pitt is growing industrially, and its built upon a real world location which has a point to being there. No random meme locations or incoherent world building here.
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>>321544889

Make me.
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>>321545868
Are you actually autistic?
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>>321535947
Really? I enjoyed Zion in my hardcore cowboy playthough it was a survival skill paridice.
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>>321545618
To add to this, I never saw the choices for The Pitt as morally grey.

When you first arrive and stuff, the raiders are obviously made out to be...well, raiders. Getting more details about Ashur's work for the cure tells you that eventually they intend to stop kidnapping people to make into slaves.

Turning over the baby to edgy whatshisface guarantees there won't ever be a cure. If you take a good look at the area you surrender the child to, it's pretty obvious that the child won't be in any good condition and will likely die. (Unless baby blood is the cure somehow, but I doubt it. Plus I'm going off on a tangent.)
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People always say that Honest Hearts is the worst DLC but I really like it just for the environment and the scenery change. Joshua and the Survivalist are great as well.
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>>321544243
I have played Fallout 1 and 2 for about a few hours a piece and I found them both very boring personally cause they aged horribly and feel clunky and slow. I guess the originals aren't for everyone. it also might be the fact that I didn't get into games until very later on and I grew up spoiled by modern games.
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>>321546171
It's the worst DLC in a group of overall good DLCs, is the thing.
Some would call it the "least good"
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>>321546171
For me it was mostly the boring quests and navigating that fucking sorrows canyon.
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>>321545214
It's amazing how the giant radscorpion has even more DT than deathclaws.
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>>321546105
I thought this as well. Werhner was just being a spiteful cunt to Ashur, who turned out ot be a pretty solid guy all things considered. I mean you were a slave and they gave you all the food you wanted and even a fucking suit of power armor, no one there really made you hate them.
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>>321546171
it's not bad it's just everything else is better. also it is super fucking short
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>>321545952

I have a mental disability, but I'm more creative than "lel autism XP" for every insult.

I also enjoy video games more than you.
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>>321546260
>I found them both very boring personally cause they aged horribly and feel clunky and slow
That's how an RPG with real time combat should feel
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>>321546171
I went to it at level 1 on a new playthrough with only some leather armor, a 9mm and some drugs to my name.

I effectively "went native" in Zion. I dressed myself in White Leg suits, used melee weapons most of the time (and a single shotgun I found when fighting bears), and spent most of time running around looking for campfires to produce food and powders.

HH needed an option where you help the White Legs, especially if you were going the Caesar's Legion route.
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>>321546260
I played F1 and 2 after "being spoiled by the modern games". Some of my favorite games ever (though it did take me a bit of restarting to get into F1, cause I at first couldn't even figure out the controls so said fuck it).
Also, arcanum.
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How's 4 compared to NV or 3?
I was thinking of buying it since it's 40% off near my place
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>>321546464
I even forgot about that. The raiders turn out to be total bros once you're able to fetch them some steel without whining.
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>>321546896
it's better than 3 but that isn't saying too much. I loved it at first and then I went back and put another 30 hours into NV and now I can't touch it.
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>>321532704
courier = posted
House = best
laser rifle = big iron
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>>321546896
Better than 3 but still shallow as fuck. New Vegas is WAY better than 3 or 4
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>>321546896
veeeeeery different
the combat feels better but it's pretty much all there is
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>>321547031
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37526/?

Here you go. Use the brown retexture
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>>321546464
>no one there really made you hate them.
They made you a slave regardless of what you do and how you came in. It becomes really stupid when you are force to stand still while they hit you to the ground. No witty speech to talk them about the area, no bartering or lying that you're a slave trader, no combat to mow them down when they attack you. This is rail roading force ness that made no sense and this was the first impression.

>>321546979
This is call stockholm syndrome.
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Go back to your /vg/ ghetto.
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>>321547495
It's been overrun by FO4 waifu fags. We're vagrants anon
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>>321547336
I didn't even fight them, I pretended I was a runaway slave that pussied out. LIKE THE GAME TOLD ME TO THREE TIMES

It's a rail roaded story with 2 endings, yes. It's still an enjoyable experience, especially after actually playing FO3. It felt like heaven to me.
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>>321532704
>traveling with based bros ED-E and Boone
>just joined the Brotherhood so i can equip power armor
>helping NCR mop up Legion cocksheaths all across the Mojave

this is my first NV playthrough and i have to say, it's pretty fucking fun so far.
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>>321534518
all 5's, except for luck at 10
that's the real build
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>>321536451
Get JSawyer
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>>321547495
>Going on /vg/
>ever

Rather not see waifu posters and shit eaters.
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NV>2>1>4>3
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>>321538762
Honest Hearts could have been amazing. Had some great worldbuilding, characters and a few neat quests, but it feels so bare compared to the others
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>>321542503
I remembered most of the positions of the pieces from when I played it like 4 years earlier and got like 90 of them within 20 minutes
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>>321543171
Enemies were really bulletspongey and dealt WAY too much damage as well. Still really good.
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>>321544731
KOTOR 2 did that nicely
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>>321545214
>mfw I circlestrafe these fuckers and bludgeon them to death with boxing tape
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>>321544731
Are you kidding me? Higher reward for evil acts is like, THE most common method for differentiating good and evil decisions. I'm fucking serious nearly every RPG uses this mechanic.
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The gameplay is so much better with Project Nevada's slo-mo. Feels more natural instead of having to constantly changing between regular shooting and pausing for turn-based-esque percentages.
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I just finished the first three dlcs and about to start the fourth later. What is your favorite and why? Also what do you think of old world blues?
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>>321547215
Ehh I dunno. I really like the color scheme of the current outfit
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God is at the switching station, Christine is at the computer, Dean is on the roof, and I'm just about to get stupid amounts of pre-war money at the Sierra Madre casino.
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>>321534087
Fallout 4 isn't a sequel to NV in the way of story...
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>>321549282
It's already the default method of NV to begin with.
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>>321549483
Dead Money. Absolutely phenomenal atmosphere and backstory. Ghost People are seriously fucking creepy, the companions (and Elijah) are all great. Lots of love for it all round.

OWB is my second favourite but I can understand why people wouldn't like it. Bullet sponge enemies, very repetitive quests. If you haven't got time for lengthy, quirky "She blinded me with SCIENCE!" dialogue then it won't be for you but luckily I adore all that shit.
I tend to skip it if I'm not a high int/science character now since I found it so underwhelming if you aren't
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Okay guys, I am starting a new character and I want an assasin/sniper build that also uses miniguns and such.

My special is

S 5. Mostly for weight and such, I dont think I need anything more for better weapons, right?

P 6. Kinda of a dump stat but I am doing a crit build so who cares.

E 6. That way I can get every implant which doesn't suck, so everything but charisma, endurance and the hp regen one.

C.4. I would leave it at 1 but I am playing hardcore and I dont want my companions to die, also I dont like leaving stats too low, it affects my immersion.

I 6. Mostly for skills, not really relevant.I have skilled so I dont really care to put more here.

A.7, to 8 with a trait. Its fit the VATS sniper build, wit the implant its gets to 9 which is pretty good.

L5. Here I am torn, I think the ideal would be 7 to get to 8 with the implant. I think I would take out 1 or 2 points from inteligence or Perception and put it here.

R8,H8
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>>321549924
>minigun
>strength 5

stopped reading there. Fix your build
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>>321533936
>killing Ulysses
Why? With you on the rest though.
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>>321532704
>>321532704
Shlomo "Good Goy" Shekelburg
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>>321549152
Fuck no, kotor system is terrible. You're either murdering bunnies or being literally Jesus Christ. Going gray makes you weaker than a full light/dark side char.
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>>321536451
Low INT, that will slow down your skill progression.
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>>321549483
DM > LR = OWB > HH
I really liked DM and LR for their linearity since you're constantly doing something that matters instead of there being pauses of traversing emptiness and just holding down W. Though OWB and HH were also tightly packed enough with content to not ever get boring. I'm kind of wondering how the whole game would have worked if it was more hub based.

DM and LR both also had god-tier atmosphere, though the latter's antagonist was a bit silly. OWB was fine, though I can understand many people not liking the randumb IN THE NAME OF SCIENCE humor. However the ending speech always gives me feels.

HH was saved by Joshua and the DLC giving some backstory to tribals. Makes the Legion look a little bit less retarded considering many of their tribes were literally "ooga-booga me throw rock and attack with stick" type of societies before Caesar educating them.
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>>321549998

Shit, I got confused, I meant SMGs and light energy weapons.
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>>321549998

He can get Strenght to 10 with both implants and the special perk
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