Looking to pick up a game from this series from the Nintendo e-shop stealth winter sale, between 3U and 4U which do you guys recommend for someone who has never touched a monster hunter game before?
>tfw no mh4u on vita
>>321529157
Assuming you have a smart phone or PC -- going into the series you might want to start with emulation. Either by the PsP or Wii version. That way if you decide it's not for you then you lost nothing of value; since you're here (4chin) your time isn't worth much anyways.
>>321529370
stop
4u
They're different enough with content but I would go with 4U because it has online.
>>321529157
MHO of course
3 if you want to go swimming
4 if you want to jump off cliffs
MH3U is easier, MH4U will fuck you raw with no lube as early as High Rank. It will be more natural progression to start with 3.
>>321529663
It's chinese MMO shit.
4U has a lot of shit wrong with it that sucks but not enough to ruin the whole game. It also has more and cooler monsters.
It also has online on 3ds.
Go with 4u. The positives outweigh the negatives.
Can't go wrong with any MH that ends with a U.
If you have a 3DS with CFW, Monster Hunter X with English Patch.
>>321529157
Definitely 4U. you can't play online on 3U.
>>321530070
Are you joking? I couldn't even finish it, I was so bored with it. Went back to playing MH4U instead.
>>321530091
>you can't play online on 3U
Of course you can
MH Tri is offline now
>>321530070
>casual hunter x
not in a million years, I hope it doesn't get localized because you shitters would love an easy monster hunter so much thats all well ever get from now on.
Tri is a great starting point if you have a wii
If not, I think you'll still be very happy with either 3U or 4U
Once you fall in love with the series, you'll end up playing them all anyway.
>>321530139
>MH Tri is offline now
Shit. I wasn't expecting this feel.
>>321529157
>not starting with the usual shitpost
>>321529370
see? at least this guy got it right
>>321529157
4U is better, get that
>>321530139
The 3ds version doesn't have online.
Supposedly that's why they made the Wii U version, and also why 4U doesn't have a Wii U version as well, according to Capcom.
If you only have a 3ds, get 4U. Hell, get 4U anyways. It's a straight upgrade.
>>321530139
>Of course you can
Not on 3ds, which OP is implying since he mentions 4U.
>>321530139
3U on 3DS is local online only
OP, just get 4U, trust me.
>>321529157
Monster Hunter is a series that builds upon itself gameplay wise with every successor. With that in mind, always choose the latest mainline title.
So to answer your question, 4U and don't look back.
>>321530208
MH has been pathetically easy every since they allowed multiplayer.
The issue with MHX is that even if you play the game as intended (single player) it's a joke. You can walk left to avoid every attack from every new monsterexcept Dinovaldo who will be a goddamn nightmare in future, hard games
>>321530219
So many memories.
>>321529157
It's a popular recommendation that you start with the most recent MH available, which is 4U.
>>321530219
I went to Loc Lac once. Just once.
It was pretty comfy. Better than Tanzia, that's for sure.
>>321530335
>>321530367
Are you retarded? MHFU, MH3U and MH4U all have completely different content. Different monsters, different areas, different weapon functionalities etc.
None of these games are interchangeable and all are must-plays if you like MH.
>>321530427
I spent 100 hours there. I didn't even want to, I had to so I could unlock the endgame content.
>tfw Helios set, Shades and a hammer
>>321530474
You can really just skip water. If you need to play third gen that bad, go play P3rd.
Hell, what good monsters were exclusive to third gen got put back into Cross, so now there's double no reason to play it.
>>321530606
Wrong, original Brachydios alone makes 3U worth playing. Not to mention that 10/10 G-rank content.
>>321530219
>grinded out the coins to get swag tabular Guild armor solo
>always, without fail, got compliments for it
And look at me now. Clownsuiting ;_;
>>321530701
>Brachydios
>exclusive
What, was 3U your first monster hunter, too?
He's in gen 4 and his fights are even better there.
>10/10 G-rank content.
Oh, boy. Can't wait for everyone to keep posting lucent narga and abyssal lagi because we all have our dream gear (read as: grongigas).
>>321530818
Is there really any difference compared to rajang hunter, gold monkey dick edition?
>>321530818
>He's in gen 4 and his fights are even better there
lel. They nerfed the hell out of him, it's like comparing Tri's Barroth and Barioth to later installments.
Personally I think both Tri and Dos are must-plays too, but since the former is RIP and the latter is too fucking hard even by MH standards I can't blame people for not trying.
>>321530885
Yeah, you have more GQs than just that.
I fucking hate GQs, but they're better than the 3U endgame, which was absolutely nothing.
>>321530474
4U has most of the notable monsters from FU. There are a few exceptions like Narga and Bulldrome but I really don't see how that would make the game worth playing.
>>321530970
How did they nerf him? They made slime more threatening, and the first Brachy you fight in HR is frenzied. I literally played both games back to back and he's far harder in 4U
>>321530970
>They nerfed the hell out of him, it's like comparing Tri's Barroth and Barioth to later installments.
Except he was never a wall in 3U.
>>321531114
Barroth maybe, but as a hammer main barroth never bothered me anyway. Now that fucking queronegro...
>>321531013
There's no comparison due to FU's limited player capabilities, the style of gameplay is different.
It makes me sad to think people fought their first Tigrex in p3rd or 4U where he's a complete bitch.
>>321531108
He's slow and spends 90% of the fight spamming easily-avoidable slime puddles, where in 3U his every attack was that regular punch which absolutely destroyed half the classes in the game, especially the lances.
>>321531203
As the man that has had the single most trouble with a Qurupeco ever, he wasn't that bad.
>>321531203
barioth for the first*
>>321530701
>Not to mention that 10/10 G-rank content.
two TERRIBLE subspecies? how is that better than being able to farm any apex, shagaru, chaotic gore, kirin etc...?
not to mention 3U "endgame" was over in like, ten hours once you got your set. 4U has the potential to last hundreds of hours if you're autistic and want to perfect your gear
Alright, thanks everyone, just got 4U, downloading it now and I'll see you all online once Igit gud
>>321531389
>Playing online
>gittin gud
Pick one.
>>321531275
>There's no comparison due to FU's limited player capabilities, the style of gameplay is different.
That's nice, but that isn't what you said you fucking idiot. You said "content". Considering 4U has almost every monster FU has, the only content it doesn't have is the areas (which no one gives a fuck about).
>>321531303
Here's a rough summarization of the 3U endgame.
>>321531389
Do NOT play multiplayer until you get cleared for caravan high rank. Learn to pull your own weight and have a sick dragon ball z fight on top of a plateau before even accidentally getting carried. Fight monsters solo before fighting them in multiplayer.
>mfw carted twice with nerscylla urgent
kill me pham
>>321529157
monster hunter freedom unite
>>321531507
Why bother responding when you know you're wrong? MHFU has the most areas out of any MH and they're all exclusive, except maybe the old desert.
>>321531518
Mount her back twice and fuck up her poison spikes. She's always harmless after that.Until you get to the subspecies, where it turns into Spiderman, magical webs that attack to clouds included.
>>321531275
>in 3U his every attack was that regular punch which absolutely destroyed half the classes in the game
His frenzied HR version in 4U literally hits harder than the regular one in 3U. Nice shitposting though
>>321529157
MH series isn't sequential. There's no plot or anything. Unless you want to battle specific monsters, the latest version is always the best.
There are edgy contrarians that will tell you to go play the old, clunky, busted PSP versions. Don't listen to them. They're pretty much the meleefags of MH. Harassing people to go play a clearly inferior, out-of-date product because they're salty as fuck the devs actually bothered to fix things and make QoL simpler in the game without sacrificing challenge.
Factoring in grindable quests that level up as you tackle them (expeditions), MH4 is the most challenging game anyway. It also has the biggest selection of weapons, and arguably one of the better difficulty curves.
>>321531518
>Tinfoil armor against small Sakurathian
>Have to avoid tailflip
>Legs keeping me between her thighs
>Oneshotted
I cried rape
>>321529370
>>321529458
Don't stop.
>>321531687
You can even block his attacks and not be slimed, it's a direct downgrade in every area and I am ashamed to have to point out something this obvious.
>>321531621
>IT HAS MORE CONTENT
>buying another game so you can fight the same monsters in different areas
are all FU fags really this pathetic?
>>321531750
>she roars
>it stuns you
>so she touches off the ground
>so the wind pressure then stuns you more>she tailflips
>>321531681
how do I mount her? she is always under the web and can't jump on her
and when she is in the upper side she just jumps like crazyat least I killed herI can git gud from this point
>>321531879
>Areas are pointless
>Monster behavior is pointless
>Weapon functionality is pointless
Whew, and I thought the shitters who arrived after Tri would have half a brain.
>>321531750
Rathian is a whore!
>>321530374
>future, hard game
Haha nice one. MH4G got rating-bombed by consumers all across Japan. Sales were great but reviews were awful. (<2 stars average on Amazon and pretty much every other online shop were customers can rate the game). Capcom was forced to make the game for casual or they would have lost lot of customers for MHX.
It seems like people in the West don't understand that MH is a game anyone play in Japan, it is played casually by millions of people. Mechanics like APEX were hated in Japan. It's not like in here where people are playing MH seriously most of the time.
At an age where the average player in Japan is eating casualized mobile shit all day or browser games like Kancolle where no skill is required, expect MH to become easier and easier to cater to these people.
MHX is only the beginning. I can totally see them raising the cart limit to 5 or worse. It sucks but that's where we are headed and you can't stop it.
Monster Hunter 4 is on sale, just ordered it. Should I pick up that circle pad thing, is it literally impossible to play without it?
>>321529370
Fitzy
>>321531991
modified monster behavior and different weapon functionality are not additional content. im sorry you're incapable of making a single post without moving the goal posts back and forth
>>321531984
If you have a weapons like GS that hits the ground, her nails will poke through the top of the web, and can be hit to knock her down.
Also, you can be on the underside, climb one of the pillars halfway, and press A to jump off. Then attack in the air. The first mount will take two jumps like that.
Or you could go Insect Glaive and do sick jumps.
>>321531773
>>321529458it stills hurts me that mh4u is not on vitathough I already got it for 3ds
>>321532076
>Mechanics like APEX were hated in Japan
Because it's a terrible fucking mechanic, along with wystones. Japs literally review games with shit like "too much content" and "not enough cutscenes", so I'm not surprised, but really no one should be defending Apex.
>>321532080
You can play without it. You'll get used to the speed at which you can "mash" the L button to recenter the camera. It has a rhythm that you can get down so it simulates turning a stick.
>>321529157
3U is easier but with annoying water combat and no online unless WiiU, community most likely not so active.
4U is harder but no notable annoying mechanics and online with active community.
Go with 4U because even if 3U is easier and you actually prefer that, no online will burn you out when grinding. Online helps with that and MH is a game that shines in co-op.
>>321532076
Your assessment is wrong because the basic MH4 was very hard and broke all records, sold like 2 million copies in three days.
MH4G was (rightfully) slammed for having basically no new content.
>>321532080
Hell no. But it's comfier and if you're going to sink 300 hours into a game, why not?
>>321532076
>tfw when carts only send you back to camp, you keep all food buffs without having the food buff, you get fortify bonuses with each one, and it doesnt even keep track of carts with the semi secret counter.
>>321531991
Areas really are pointless though
>>321532170
thank you anon, I'll try that
I'm using charge blade
I tried hiting the nails and got bited and poisoned, so I'll watch out next time
>>321532297
>Online helps with that and MH is a game that shines in co-op.
Ruins, you mean. Grinding exists to help you get accustomed with new weapons and honing your skills, not letting some overpowered shitters carry you.
>>321532428
You have an attack that swings up high enough to hit her there.
>>321532080
Nah, touchpad and lock on do just fine.
But feel free to get one if you find the regular camera controls cumbersome.
>>321532297
>no notable annoying mechanics
Is this a joke? Wind pressure is 100x worse in 4U than any previous game. Not to mention Apex
>>321532117
Goalpost: MHFU is different enough to warrant a play.
Proof on my end: Numerous and impossible to disprove (modified monster behavior and different weapon functionality)
Proof on your end: Moving the goalposts ad nauseum before complaining that the goalposts were moved.
Conclusion: You are a retard.
>mfw unwrapping 3DS on Christmas
>mfw unwrapping MH4
I don't deserve this.
Might as well stick with 4U. 3U is great also, but 4U really does just have more to offer.
3U would be a pretty decent place to start if you were set on getting both anyway. It had some great monsters that are absent in 4U. There was also no online so if you dig in deep into G-rank in 3U you can safely assume that you're not a complete shitter and at least capable as a hunter. There is underwater combat too but it's totally dildos.
If you really get balls deep into 4U you could go back to 3U and check out some of the other monsters there. Might be a little tough but if you love hunting you'd adjust.
>>321532460
Every online co-op game has carrying. Not my fault you chose to stick with it instead of going to rooms that have people at the level you want.
>>321532618
Get wind res and 2 wystones. Problem solved.
>>321532618
Roars and Wind Pressure had basically no functionality in 3U though, I'm glad to see them pose an actual threat again.
I don't see the issue, positioning should be top fucking priority in any scenario anyway.
>>321532284
Well it's not only APEX. They hated the high difficulty overall. Called fights "unfair" and so on.
>>321532308
>your assessment is wrong
Do you read Japanese? Head over to amazon and read the reviews.
Sales have nothing to do with that yet. When a game series is doing poorly it takes at least one or two iterations before seeing an impact on sales.
MHX was casualized for a fucking good reason by Capcom and it's to keep all players who got let down by MH4/MH4G. MH is still a strong brand in Japan so fucking up one iteration isn't going to impact sales straight away.
>>321532331
I can see that happening. Or something like most Games have now where you don't die when your HP hits 0 and where your team (or cats) could resurrect you from a "near death" to 10% HP or something. (Like Freedom Wars).
>>321532785
>Every online co-op game has carrying. Not my fault you chose to stick with it instead of going to rooms that have people at the level you want.
Still carrying.
Monster Hunter is not a game where it's easy to die, on the contrary, you should never die unless you're taking a stupid risk.
MH is a series about DAMAGING THE MONSTER and every time someone who's not you is hitting a monster, they're stealing gameplay from you.
>>321532661
>MHFU, MH3U and MH4U all have completely different content. Different monsters, different areas, different weapon functionalities etc.
That was your actual post. Problem is that 4U has nearly every monster that FU has except maybe six or seven, no one cares about areas and "weapon functionalities" are not content (although it's funny since what FU actually has is *removed* weapon functionality from 4U). Then you lazily said etc... to imply that there's content you didn't list, even though there isn't.
>>321532710
why not anon? you're a good boy, aren't you?
>>321532790
>I don't see the issue, positioning should be top fucking priority in any scenario anyway.
Not him, but wind pressure goes beyond positioning in 4U. It's range was doubled, and so was the duration. It's just more needlessly tedious than challenging.
>>321532816
>MHX was casualized for a fucking good reason by Capcom and it's to keep all players who got let down by MH4/MH4G. MH is still a strong brand in Japan so fucking up one iteration isn't going to impact sales straight away.
No, MHX was casualized because the team behind P3rd makes casual games.
I will not have you slander the fucking impeccable integrity of the main MH team, the people who refuse any crossover, the people who make an already hard franchise even harder with each mainline iteration in this day and age.
>>321532920
That's your opinion, and it says you don't like online period. Don't go into online then. You can not like things others like you know, won't stop me from enjoying them.
>hurr have fun enjoying shit XD
I will, merry christmas anon.
>>321532920
But guildhall monsters are balanced for 2.
So you can reasonably play those without worrying about losing some of the experience. Though anymore than 2 is trivializing the game beyond reason.
>>321532790
Sure, but they went way overboard. Azure/Silver/Pink/Gold Wrath are infuriating to fight. They also added it to quite a few monsters that really shouldn't have it, like Yian Garuga. Then obviously there's Kushala... Plus the range and effect duration were massive increased from gen 3.
I don't have a problem with the mechanic but they went overboard with the flying enemies.
>>321532785
>Get wind res and 2 wystones. Problem solved.
I didn't say there was no way to deal with it, I said it was annoying. Apex is similarly retarded since if your team fails to knock out the Apex in your wystone duration (or the monster decides not to fight) you're stuck doing basically nothing until the cooldown is up. It isn't impossible to deal with, but it's certainly irritating.
>>321533220
I'm inclined to agree with this if not for the fact that 99% of online players outside of the arena refuse to depart from the hall unless at least 3 hunters are present.
I mean, sure, everyone could be using bone Kris and it'd be fine, but nobody does so it's not a valid argument.
>>321533376
theres two more raths now.
>>321533376
But Yian Garuga owned that wind pressure. That's his whole shtick, to roar and blow wind at the same time to bypass any defenses.
>>321533507
except that the seemingly useless skill, unshakeable wrecks garugas roar and pressure at once.
>>321533026
>Game was made by a different team... integrity
Do you have any idea how the industry works? Even if a different team works on a product, approval have to be given by Brand Stakeholders.
If the game got approved like it is right now there's a reason. If Brand stakeholders determined that lowering the overall difficulty was a good decision to take to secure more sales then that's why the game ended up this way.
Do you really think that developers have their word to say? Especially on a franchise that huge? If people in charge of Publishing wants the game to be easier then it'll be easier regardless if DEVs are happy with it or not.
That works pretty much for all products out there but really niche games where the development team can pretty much make all the calls. For bigger projects the one and only goal is to secure more sales, MH is a cash machine.
Most Japanese game are taking that turn and are becoming more casualized and you can't stop it.
>>321533507
pretty silly for a monster of that size to cause wind pressure
>>321533376
So make builds that will enable you to deal with Apex before wystones run out. You know, like when you made builds to deal with other stuff in MH games?
>All these 3DS Christmas anons
Fellow new 3DS owner here. MH4U question, can I coop with just one other person and play through the game?
Need a coop game to play with muh bro.
>>321533597
7 years too late to save me from the hell that was the one-eared garuga.
>>321533646
Literally an elder dragon.
So, is anyone hunting anything?.. No?
>>321533639
>Do you really think that developers have their word to say?
Yes, based on the fact that they have done so numerous times.
You forget that the man currently heading the MH team is related to the CEO of Capcom. He does whatever the fuck he wants and he wants hardcore games.
>>321533780
If by hunting you mean standing around in the guild hall showing off my hacked gear, then yes, Im doing that right now.
I don't fight monsters anymore though, I already have all their shit x99.
>>321533713
Singleplayer/Caravan and Multipler/Guild Hall are separate with separate progress. You can "beat" the game without ever touching one of the two.
That said, if you and your bro haven't played the game, by all means both do the tutorial and jump into multiplayer together to experience everything firsthand together. Just don't let people who know what they're doing do all the heavy lifting for you.
>>321533780
My 3U save was deleted, Tri's online is dead, MHX is shit, MHO is shit, I won't be hunting anything for a while.
>>321533650
>builds that will enable you to deal with Apex before wystones run out
You mean builds for running in circles? Because that's what everyone in 140 does if they fail to knock out Apex on the first go; either that or AFKing in another area. Not sure why you're defending a mechanic that was almost universally panned for being lazily implemented.
>>321533724
Gargua is a bird wyvern, not like it matters since "elder dragon" doesn't imply anything in MH short of "we don't know what the fuck it is"
>>321533912
Aren't you forgetting something? What about 4U?
>>321533827
He surely did what he wanted with MHX then. Won't change the fact that the game got released this way and I don't see them turning back to the difficulty level they had before.
>>321533913
I don't see why everyone goes on about APEX - They're completely optional after the first hunt and don't even have unique mats. All they give out is stones that let you kill other monsters faster.
It's not like 3U where they give you a Stygian or Brachy with ten times the HP because fuck you.
>>321533910
Separate progress, you mean separate characters?
>>321534052
MHX isn't the mainline team, neither is MHO. What, are you going to whine about the Airu spinoffs too? Because that's what it sounds like.
>>321533910
Not entirely separate. Some Caravan quests are unlocked only by reaching a certain HR in the Gathering Hall.
>>321534137
You CAN do separate characters if you want, but I mean that both singleplayer and multiplayer have missions and mission progress separate from eachother, with separate plots and whatnot. Beating a Rathalos in singleplayer doesn't mean you can skip it in multiplayer.
>>321534106
Literally all I said was that it was an annoying mechanic and that guy started arguing with me. I wouldn't be sad to see Apex go but I generally just avoid it in 140 hunts and do Shagaru or something.
>>321534106
>somebody never did high level GQs
Yeah, sure, they're "optional". But so is G rank, and high rank, and playing the game in the first place.
>>321532382
Their only purpose now is so the games can run on the 3DS toaster hardware
>>321534257
This guy knows what's up. Best boss of 2015, no contest.
>>321534245
Oh I see, cool cool.
>>321533780
Slowly going through 4 star quests inMHX. Would be great if I could find out if village has High Rank or if I have to go to the gathering hall quests.
>>321533913
No I don't mean that, builds that help with getting in and un-apexing the monster quickly.
>Not sure why you're defending a mechanic that was almost universally panned for being lazily implemented.
Because I like it sherlock. More ferocity, some variations of moves, challenging. You also get to further upgrade your weapons for extra effects.
If you wanna talk about shitty mechanics talk about GQs, apex is fine.
>>321534402
You almost got it right.
>>321534474
>Would be great if I could find out if village has High Rank or if I have to go to the gathering hall quests.
No HR in village, and Gathering hall forces you to fight monsters that were optional in village like Blangonga.
>>321534474
>More ferocity, some variations of moves, challenging.
Frenzy already did that though, Apex just introduces wystones which suck dick. Also, in MP is isn't always up to you whether a monster drops Apex in your wystone duration
>>321534474
I can't play X, but if all the previous games are anything to judge by, then it shouldn't have HR. Outside of maybe a few challenge quests that get unlocked after you finish all the others.
>>321534514Terrible music
>>321534642
Well, if that's your main criteria, then no monster has beat Zinogre yet.
>>321534603
I like Wystones, MH sorely lacks a reason for an all-out offensive playstyle. It pains me to admit but most people probably spend 15 minutes beating bosses that can be soloed in 5.
>>321534709
>Who is Gogomoa
>Who is King Shakalaka
You'll want to buy 4U, but you can't really fuck this up. Both of them are some of the best purchases I have ever made
>>321534709
>>321534808
You all mean Shagaru, right?
>>321534808
>Who is Gogomoa
Indeed. Who?
>>321534890
He doesn't even have the best battle theme in his own game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPGzjzG3EeM
Also, the best theme in any MH is the second phase of Jhen's battle. Please prove me wrong.
>>321535025
>Kecha Wacha
It's not its theme. It's just generic theme for the Ancestral Steppe.
>>321535025
>Kecha
>having a theme
That's the Steppe, bro.
Post the top 3 hardest monsters you've ever faced and from which game
1.Yama Tsukami (Dos)
2.Brachydios (3U)
3.Hot phallic monkey (4U)
IS HUNTING HORN GOOD ONLINE?
>>321535294
Green Plesioth in 3U.
>>321534576
>>321534616
Shit.
>Outside of maybe a few challenge quests
That's exactly what I'm talking about though. Some quests open up in previous games that have HR/GR quests, you said challenges though. You mean arena?
>>321534603
>I don't like it because it just sucks dude.
This gonna repeat forever? I never intended to persuade you. Stop shitting up the thread. Or don't stop, keep trying to "win" the "argument".
>in MP is isn't always up to you whether a monster drops Apex in your wystone duration
Source: your ass.
>>321535238
>>321535292
The OST disagrees, also I think his introductory sequence has bits of it.
Other themes are also named after monsters, Dark Predator 〜 Nerscylla, Meandering Melody 〜 Najarala, Fangs Lurking in the Icy Surface 〜 Zamtrios, Raging Magma 〜 Gravios and Ancient Heavy Armor 〜 Seltas Queen
>>321535348
That's pretty much it's the only thing it's good for. You're not gonna kill anything with it solo.
>>321535294
Great Jaggi
>>321535348
Yes. Give people stamina or earplugs and they will suck your cock clean.
>>321535465
>The OST disagrees
No, that youtube title disagrees. The song itself is tied to the Steppe for any creature that doesn't have its own theme to overwrite it.
>>321535550
Id rather atk to see my fucking hammers attack go into the stratosphere.
>>321535465
>The OST disagrees
You mean some random retarded youtuber who uploaded the video disagrees.
If a monster has its own theme it plays exlusively during its fight. If the track is "shared" with another monster, this means it wasn't the monster's theme to begin with.
>>321535348
No, your only attack worth a shit will send people flying.
It's alright in 3U but really, people should be able to afford their own goddamn dash juice.
>>321532076
>I can totally see them raising the cart limit to 5 or worse
>>321533026
But the mainline team casualized the arena mode, raising from 1 to 3 to NINE carts in 4U.
>>321535294
Tigrex from FU
Flying monkey cunt 4U
Flying monkey cunt 4U
I hate that monkey so much I am picking it twice
>No lock on camera
OoT had this. An n64 game. Its STANDARD, even in "hardcore" games like the Souls series.
What is Monster Hunters excuse? Go ahead, I'll wait.
>>321535719
>He needs lock on
Whens getting good?
>>321535424
pretty difficult, if not outright impossible, to single-handedly knock apex out of a monster if the other players don't contribute. not sure if you're just shitposting or if you've never played 140
>>321535348
Yes, it's great.
Just remember your first priority is always the same for all weapons. Hitting the monster.
>>321535691
>But the mainline team casualized the arena mode, raising from 1 to 3 to NINE carts in 4U.
Also going from having you kill a shitty Great Jaggi to fighting three fucking Tigrex in a row
I soloed all of them, the dual Gravios one had me shitting so many bricks you could've built a village
>>321535719
DS series is simply nowhere near as hardcore compared to MH as souls babies would like to think. Nuff said.
>>321535839
>to fighting three fucking Tigrex in a row
Still easier than the shitty Great Jaggi because you have nine fucking carts.
>>321535719
Avoiding attacks and landing hits would be impossible if the camera kept re-adjusting itself.
>haha MHX is so easy
>then they get 2shotted by low rank HC Arzuros or Lagombi
every time
>>321536140
MHFU had one cart but the hunts were so short it didn't even matter. All of these arena quests are timed and dying gives a lower grade.
>>321536239
>The last 2% of this game is really hard so that mean the whole game is hard
A basic Kut-Ku provides more of a challenge than anything in MHX until the endgame. Just like p3rd, it had some brutal DLC quests.
>>321536345
>The last 2% of this game
Whole post discarded.
>>321536453
I'd say 1% because of the Nyanter padding.
Go on, tell everyone how many pointless gathering quests you need to be able to multiply honey.
>>321535802
Dual 140 Rajangs actually. With CB, duals, SA and others on whatever random weapon they want. Countless times. Also some others like Gravios/Jho.
Wanna know how I know you're full of shit when you imply un-apexing is RNG? Because I've seen how many hits it takes from my weapon of choice to un-apex a monster and how different moves affect that when I did it offline. I've also done hame runs on dual jangs and guess what, jang always goes out of apex when we wanted it, not sooner, not later.
>>321535719
Monhun mechanically is a awful game, fucking horrible but I still love it. I still laugh when people try to defend it. It's one of if not THE laziest series capcom produces.
>>321536672
>un-apexing is RNG
literally no one ever said that
>>321536165
>Avoiding attacks and landing hits would be impossible if the camera kept re-adjusting itself.
Sure buddy, its totally impossible to avoid hits and land them with a lock on camera! Most retarded comment I've read this week, grats.
>>321536672
Wystones apply fixed amount of anti-frenzy status per hit, depending on the motion value, true. But that doesn't make unapexing monsters entirely free of RNG. The AI make give you a middle finger and just chain moves that make it hard to get hits in, or charge from one end of the area to another.
And it certainly doesn't make apex a better mechanic. Frenzy alone is pretty good, without the bouncing gimmick.
>>321537349
Why make an argument if you have no counter-argument? Lock-on is designed for mobs, not giant monsters, even casual shit like DaS works better without it.
>>321536672
>Wanna know how I know you're full of shit when you imply un-apexing is RNG
Go ahead and invent arguments that no one made so you can feel like you're winning something.
>>321537640
>even casual shit like DaS works better without it.
No it doesn't.
>>321537041
>>321537650
then
>>321534603
>in MP is isn't always up to you whether a monster drops Apex in your wystone duration.
Was just you crying about others not contributing? You could always check their status to see if they got their wystones. If they act like a shitter still, find others. Are you that impatient? Why do you even go online then?
>>321537434
Yes, and thats the whole challenge. I enjoy that extra layer of difficulty from the AI, you don't. I thought I already expressed that enough times so please just brand me a shitter or whatever for enjoying it instead of trying to convince me I don't like it because it ain't working. I've played enough to have my opinion of it, you got yours.
>>321537974
How is other players dicking around "random number generator"
>>321537974
I've only been spectating this conversation, but I still have yet to see where you pulled "RNG" out of your ass from.
>>321538460
>>321538574
I thought he was talking about online un-apexing being random what with the "it isnt up to you" part. Didn't think it was more bitching along the lines of "everyones a shitter, online sucks!" again.
