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>millions of user's private personal info released
>steam turned off after 4 hours and actually fixed after like 6 hours
>valve didn't say anything at all during the whole mess and everyone instead had to take help from an unaffiliated source
>not even a free game as an apology or a press release
Defend this
perhaps they are figuring out what happened, what the exposure is, and what position they are taking on the matter
and perhaps that takes more than 18 hours
Top kek
>>321520913
They dont give as shit about you.
>>321520913
I can't
>>321520913
They know 95% of their userbase are spineless beta cuks that will defend them no matter what they do.
>>321520913
m-masterrace
it's just a-another case of e-entitled g-gamers
most likely c-console peasants
>>321521341
They are a multi billion corporation. Any other operation this big would have a response within an hour.
>>321520913
>Defend this
I can't. I can accept them needing some time till they got it fixed, they were definitely running on a bare-bone staff at that time.
I can not excuse them not shutting down access to the servers and informing their customers about what happened.
every man that gets old enter the "sue me" stage
Gabe does not give a single fuck about it,hes too rich and old for that.
If something,someone from valve will talk about it on reddit
>>321520913
Don't like it, don't use it, cockboy. Valve doesn't give a fuck about you or your info.
>there are people right now who were previously freaking out over this purchasing off steam today because muh sales
Steam fags are these worse than the sonyggers
>>321520913
If Valve announced that Half-Life 3 was officially in development as an apology, would you accept it?
>>321520913
>personal info released
no it was directing people to the wrong store accounts though they could see your address etc
not as big a deal as the sony hack but still a major fuck up especially right on christmas sale
>>321520913
>gave interviews to online-sites
>still no message to their customers
TOPLOL
praised be lord gaben, riteguise?
>3 years ago
>literally every post was about the psn hack for weeks
>today
>two threads the day after the event
IT'S OK WHEN VALVE DOES IT
>>321520913
>private personal info released
>not even a free game as an apology or a press release
Hate to break it for you, but leaking someone's e-mail and the last 4 digits of their phone number (and in come cases credit card) is not that big of a deal.
>>321525040
PSN was down for weeks.
Valve was down for a few hours.
>>321522938
They didn't shut down the servers because in doing so would mean preventing them from reeling in more holiday sale buyers.
yea thank god I'm not using origin
steam is so much better
>>321525040
it wasn't a hack and no real info like full credit card numbers was leaked. this was a nonissue compared to the PSN disaster
>>321520913
Valve actually did a good job fixing things so quickly. So what if some people saw some irrelevant information, the important thing is payment information was secure and no one was able to charge anything to your account.
>>321522753
you mean like sony where it took days, or microsoft where it took days?
Remember when Valve cared about their users?
>>321524754
Care to try that one again, this time in English?
>>321525742
"November 10th"
And the breach was on the 6th
Why would anyone expect an official response today?
>>321520913
>private info leaked
Like what, name and last number of your phonenumber?
>not using a steam-only email
>using your real name online ever
>saving credit card info
>using your real address when they do nothing with it
Facebook gives more info out for everyone who wants to see them.
>>321520913
>Defend this
I can't defend myself from your imagination.Only 1 of those accusations is true, and even still you're blowing it out of proportion.
>>321525192
Yeah you tell that faggot, also the PSN hack gave away all credit card information and let people buy stuff on other people's accounts it was like a billion dollar loss. Consoles amirite? PC masterrace bros!
>>321522938
>running on a bare-bone staff at that time
It seems like a baffling decision if that were true, considering Christmas is probably the busiest day for them, with users getting Steam gift cards for Christmas and taking advantage of the sale. Then again, I wouldn't put it past them.
Too many people view Steam with an indie business point of view, when they are simply too large and influential with their monopoly on the market to not be held accountable for their shitty customer service and damage control.
>>321526006
>It seems like a baffling decision if that were true
>i have no understanding how servers and holidays work: the post
>>321520913
I won't, but if I get a free game out of it, then whatever. It was an attack. It was a caching issue. You, as little jimmy, may have seen little boris' purchase history. However nothing by could be done from there as you were never logged in as them.
However the breach of privacy may be enough for them to give us compensation. So Portal 2 for everyone!
>>321526084
You may also have seen Little Boris's private information, such as full name, telephone number, email address and postal address, along with the last four digits of an attached card.
This is extremely valuable information and makes idendity fraud and theft via social engineering incredibly easy. Don't think that this isn't a serious breach of security, because it is. Many people could lose a lot of money.
>Private Information leaked
Addresses, names, and phone numbers. You can get more just from being on Facebook
>Credit Card information stolen
They did not
>It's bad when PSN does it but fine with Steam does it
PSN was hacked and they got credit card information. Steam had a cacheing error and gave out your name and address.
>Steam was down
No shit. They were fixing things.
>No free game
You're just being entitled now. Free game for what? Their service being down. You could still play in offline mode.
>>321526256
It's no different than looking up boris' name online.
Steam also only ever shows you the last 2 numbers of a card. It's even censored that way on the actual users end.
>Card ending in **99
Of course anything is plausible given enough variables. I mean, that's how the game Homefront made a story out of nonsense. But this is just paranoia.
>>321526287
>Addresses, names, and phone numbers. You can get more just from being on Facebook
Very few people I know have their phone numbers publically available on Facebook and I don't know a single person who posts their full address there.
>>321526084
No, I saw Borris' home address and phone number.
Why do you people keep conveniently leave this out?
>>321526074
Plenty of people work on Christmas. A multi-billion dollar company that annually sees a huge influx of traffic on a specific day, at the peak of their biggest annual sale, would recognize the importance of keeping things stable.
Please put down your Yu-Gi-Oh cards and try to grasp the situation. Understand that the global market exists in a larger state outside of your 7th grade mentality.
>>321522753
>i am a beta basement dweller faggot and i know how big corporations work
>>321526701
>i have no understanding of servers and holidays: the post 2: electric boogaloo: now with yu-gi-oh references
>>321526287
>>Private Information leaked
>Addresses, names, and phone numbers. You can get more just from being on Facebook
That's incredibly rare. No one has their address on there and just because Facebook exists doesn't mean giving that shit out is ok. Can't stand fanboys
>>321526536
Just because you don't know people doesn't mean there aren't others.
You can find a picture at home and probably get geotag information from it.
>>321526536
No matter be is leaving that out, it's just irrelevant you fear mongering moron.
>>321526856
No one is*
>>321520913
its a beta
give them time
ti just ended
a lot is happening behind the scenes
>>321520913
Oh look, the entitled gamergate cucks have arrived.
>using steam
>being an ameriblob
Lmao
>>321526535
Alright, two numbers then.
>>321526856
Imagine a person phoning you up and being able to tell you your name, phone number (obviously), full postal address, full email address, and the last four (or two - they'd only have a 1% chance of guessing it correctly) digits of your card number. You'd struggle to find anyone who wouldn't trust this person and give out further personal information. These criminals are trained and very good at getting people to give out information, and the more they have on a person the easier it becomes to defraud them.
Social engineering is a massive, massive problem and this is why this system error is so serious. Don't pretend it's an issue only stupid people fall for, because it's not true.
>>321527162
Imagine not being a retard and not giving personal info that's irrelevant to a company that stores this info online
>>321527162
>they'd only have a 1% chance of guessing it correctly
not that anon
with 2 numbers, you get billions of possibilities. Far lower than 1%
I don't disagree with everything else you said
>>321527287
I don't think you understand how this information was revealed in the caching error.
When people went to a page to alter/add card details, the details of another person required for the card to be usable were presented.
The most sensitive fields like card number and CVV are never retained but the others were already filled in.
So if the person had a card linked to their Steam account and they had gone to the page to alter/add a card (thus caching it) they were vulnerable.
>>321527351
Thanks, I had a feeling 1% was too high but I'm not great at explaining statistics.
>>321522658
>stuttering to make a point
Get out faggot.
>>321522753
It took them 9 years to complete tf2. Not sure why you're expecting speed from valve.
>>321524754
Jeebus, from which shithole are you from to write such a bad engrish?
>>321527562
Yet no money was stolen from anyone. Do you even know what was shown and what wasn't?
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/458604254431478327
the community managers are lying on the forums telling people there phone number were censored when it clearly wasn't
>>321520913
Thank god I only use Steam for Dark Souls multiplayer. Origin, Steam, Uplay etc. belong to trash.
>>321527871
I never said money would be stolen and from this error, it wouldn't be, not immediately anyway.
I already said full card number and CVV were not revealed, and purchases through Steam were not completing.
>>321528012
They aren't lying. They were censored.
>People using Facebook as an apology for Valve
Are you fucking kidding me? Nobody consented to valve to give out this information. You should be fucking outraged /v/.
>>321520913
I won't defend Steam being shitty about releasing information.
But I won't freak out about it.
>>321523414
This is a very well looped gif.
>>321528349
if by censored you mean fully visible, did you even look at the screenshot?
>>321525040
I wasnt even home when it happened, I was visiting my parents. I imagine most people didnt feel it because they were doing other things while it occurred.
However my Origin account was hacked on Christmas, which probably has something to do with it. I dont even have any games there, just made it for some beta, and I guess I had a weak password that could be seen from my Steam info somehow.
>>321528592
I only saw the ending numbers.
Also your "screenshot" is a fucking huge mess
>>321525851
This.
They are definately looking into the matter and will release a statement after 2 days or something.
>>321525742
>bad things happened
>they might have your CC info, I dunno
>change your password or something
This is what you consider caring?
>>321528996
This doesn't prove anything.
I can go to my own account info and censor a part of it and post it. No proof that you could've accessed that page.
didn't have any CC info saved. am i /safe/?
>>321527162
I'd find it suspicious if anyone knows my credit card's billing address. Cause it's certainly not my home address.
>>321528369
They didn't.
It's the digital equivalent of you handing a banker your drivers license and they fumble and drop it.
>>321522753
Everytime I think. "They can't get any stupider than this," someone like you shows up.
>>321522753
>Work for a Fortune 50 company
>It takes more than an hour to page the guy currently covering incidents for a critical issue
>>321529757
Kids only experience with the corporate world is fast food.
We good now? All their discussions are down.
Either that or my internet is shit.
steam technically wasn't hacked so they don't have to defend themselves
/thread
>>321529262
yes
>>321529485
please feel free to post your steam name, full name, address, email, phone number and last few digits of your CC if you don't think it's a big deal.
>>321529485
>It's the digital equivalent of you handing a banker your drivers license and they fumble and drop it.
Nah, it's the digital equivalent of the banker returning random customer's drivers licenses to you instead of your own.
>>321530037
I rather not have /v/ know where I live. I can handle scam artists. I'm not dealing with neckbeards on my front step.
>>321530037
All of those except my email are faked or not on my account
Common sense? I think yes.
>>321520913
>Private person info release
>Last two digits of credit card if saved
>Last 4 digits of phone number if saved
>E-mail address
2/3 of those can't be used, and the third could be easily gotten by other means.
I'm not defending valve, they fucked up. But jesus christ you're acting like they leaked your social security number, full name and credit card or something
>>321530467
don't know about the US, but under EU law that's all considered sensitive data and is taken VERY fucking seriously
>>321520913
What's up with all the steam/valve threads? Is this bait?
Origin customer service?
Anyone else still having issues? I was fine for a while, now it's giving me the "verifying login information" again.
>>321530640
>Valve
>giving a shit about EU law
But I digress, any EU citizen should file a complaint to their local and EU appointed agency that deals with this. The more people do this, the better.
>>321520913
this is what /v/ thinks about this
>>321530597
>>321530640
no it doesn't
>TFW I experienced literally no interruption in service
Are you people just bad at steam or what exactly
>>321525040
>Sonyggers
>>321530640
>under EU law that's all considered sensitive data and is taken VERY fucking seriously
>HIPAA laughing in the distance
>>321520913
Even now Steam toddlers will defend that disgusting lardass Judenkikeshitschwein that is Gabe Newell.
They were brainwashed and indoctrinated with his "Gaben is tha saviour of Le PC Master Race xD" meme that it became the truth for them.
PC gaming has never been as bad as it is now under Steam's monopoly reign.
>they offer a free game as compensation
>it's Portal 1
>>321530467
>Full billing address
>Full phone number
>computer ID
yeah, fuck you
>>321531148
kek
>>321531135
Hello /pol/
>>321531148
>it's a half-life 3 preorder
>>321531003
Apparently.
I didn't notice anything either, but I'm in the Caribbean
>I want free stuff
Lets face it, that's the only reason why people are making a ruckus.
Nothing important was leaked, nothing disastrous happened.
You were literally just looking at cached pages.
This is NOTHING like the attacks on Sony
>>321520913
>millions of users
insufficient evidence rooster.jpg
>>321531537
Post your steam name, full name, address, email, phone number and last few digits of your CC if you don't think it's important.
>>321525040
>literally every post was about the psn hack for weeks
Probably because that actually went on for weeks....?
can anyone go to steamworkshop?
>>321520913
fuck off that is not true at all
Okay guys, real talk. Lets get down to brass tacks here.
However you cut it, steam is preeetty bad at data security it seems. I know, right? What a shocker.
Now, logically you COULD sit there and accept this. However, you could just fork over the $300 you were gonna use on that oh so expensive new processor or graphics card and hop on over to PS4.
Seriously, name one reason you want to sit there and get your credit card information, billing address, phone number etc stolen. You are deluding yourselves if you think this isnt the breach of the century.
http://www.pcgamer.com/warning-steam-is-revealing-private-account-information/
>We also now have Valve's official word on the matter, as supplied to several outlets via email:
>"Steam is back up and running without any known issue. As a result of a configuration change earlier today, a caching issue allowed some users to randomly see pages generated for other users for a period of less than an hour. This issue has since been resolved. We believe no unauthorized actions were allowed on accounts beyond the viewing of cached page information and no additional action is required by users."
>>321531537
what compensation did ps get back then
>>321531729
No why would I want strangers to see that
>>321531729
Why do you even give the unnecessary info for them in the first place?
Also your comparison is retarded, like you
Fuck me, is steamcommunity down for everyone else too? I can't accept this gift I got earlier.
>>321532173
are you trolling, or is this bait?
>>321532302
A bunch of free shit, I don't really remember what though
Good news friends, I am member of legal team suing valves.
But to make certain you get awards from trial, we need you to send representation fee. Just email $20 of bit coin to email
>>321532485
>nigeria.eu
>eu
predicting the future, eh
>>321532469
Why am I trolling? Its not my credit card info getting hijacked.
All Im saying is PS4 has never had this kinda problem and I'm saying its a better alternative in terms of security than valve.
>>321529235
Go check the archive for the threads where people were rating the account pages of others if you're gonna be a little 'no proof xdddd' faggot
>tfw I'm not a retard and therefore did not store my payment information on Steam
>>321531747
Community is down.
>>321532890
PS4 not, but PSN had, and much bigger so fuck you sonygger
>>321532406
Anyone who had a credit card on file had that billing information on steam. I literally just listed all the information some people had leaked how is my comparison invalid? In fact feel free to add your computer ID, paypal email, wallet balance and purchase history to the list
>>321532173
>Greetings, fellow gamers. I am a gamer just like you, not a paid advertiser. Please spend $300 on a PlayStation 4 ™ home entertainment system today! Remember, I am not a marketer.I am just so pathetic that I spend my life advertising Sony products for free.
>>321533457
Why do you need to give exact billing info anyways?
Either way, your comparison is retarded.
>>321533540
Go away Sony guy. I am trying to get sue money.
>>321520913
I can't, I won't.
Fuck you Steam. At least my account seems unaffected, but I'm still paranoid.
Sweping it under the rug and ignoring it is weirdly the best way to deal with it, considering how not even the masses of Steam users noticed.
>>321533059
On mobile, can you give a thread number
>>321533717
maybe when you are older and get a credit card of your own you'll understand that you can't just lie about credentials when you use it. I use paypal on steam so I don't give a shit but there are a ton of people who use steam with a CC
>>321525149
Hate to break it to you, but you're retarded.
Try saying that shit to a judge.
Is steam safe to log in again?
>>321534181
You're a poorfag who just wants free games
Admit it
Totalbiscuit won't do shit
>>321534181
Judge, some bad guys got 6 useless numbers and the bad company won't give me free stuff.
>>321531274
They invested tons of money and time into HL3 only to give it out for free because of hacks.
>>321534605
it's not his company, I think
>>321533841
Diff anon, but the phone numbers were visible, I personally saw details for some guy in Vermont, which is odd given I'm in Glasgow, UK
>>321534641
Mom, I gave my personal info to online people and they spread it, help me ;_;
ok so what's the deal here? I had steam on all day yesterday. I don't save my card information or paypal and I didn't give a phone number for the mobile thing. what do hackers have on me? just my email? do I need to change passwords or were those not leaked? is it safe to use steam now?
>>321534846
"They don't know" if encrypted passwords were leaked.
>>321528012
>he uses credit cards, real phone numbers, real name and real address
>>321534775
Maker doesnt own his channel, he can do watever he wants
He is just afraid they will get his games from him
>>321535002
This. Blame yourselves.
>>321522753
It was fucking Christmas. Most critical personnel were probably at home with family like any reasonable non retail company.
>>321534984
is the security breach fixed now?
>mfw steamfags always said "there's literally nothing wrong with a store that forces you to have it open to play the games you bought with it"
>>321535227
>Most critical personnel
Are you referring to the guys who make TF2 hats or guys who make Dota2 skins?
>>321525742
No.
>>321525742
They waited FOUR days to say anything about that issue. People were wondering on every forum how big the breach could have been and how much information had been stolen. They left everyfuckingone in the dark.
They never gave a shit about their users.
>>321535227
Where's the statement from valve hours later then?
>>321520913
>Oh hey! here's anon at last!
>did you sort out your little games problem?
>any who why don't you turn that off for a while and come spend Christmas with your family?
>Your cousin here has been telling us about her promotion at work
>very exciting though a bit of a juggle with the baby on its way lol
>no anon don't go back to your room
>it wont be fixed until tomorrow, nobody is going to worry about fixing the internet on christmas
>So why dont you tell your cousin about your year?
>There must be a lucky lady in your life, after all you are hardly kept busy with a job lol
>>321536189
>very exciting though a bit of a juggle with the baby on its way lol
>lol
Excuse me?
>>321535892
On the forum. Go look instead of expecting Steam to personally call you
>>321536312
>steam answers faq of 15 hours ago
>public statement
Yea go fuck yourself.
>>321536189
This meme actually hurts.
>>321536189
>mfw my family doesnt give a shit,
"i jacked off and did absolutely nothing of importance"
>and then everyone got wasted.
>>321520913
>millions
don't shit me bruh, yesterday we all were the same russian guy
>free game
Some game that everybody already has? like l4d
also what are you a poorfag?
>>321536189
this hurts
not my feelings
but it makes me cringe real hard
>>321536312
>https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/458604254431478327
>phone numbers are, as required by law, censored and not visible to users
>phone numbers have clearly been leaked
So when are they going to stop lying?
>>321533061
I don't store my payment information either, but that doesn't mean either of us are in the clear, we likely got personal information taken from our respective accounts.
Can't defend that. They're not in the stock market so they'll do what they wish. Thats what you get when small closed firm of about 300 nerds get thrown money from around the globe
>>321536969
i can look up your phone number in any phone book (even online)
>there are people who are actually defending Valve
This is not acceptable when anyone does it. All this deflection to Sony and Microsoft is fucking pathetic, Valve should be held somehow accountable for this fuck up just like the other two should be.
>play games on a PC
>actually sign up for this shit to buy games with
>instead of using it as a Facebook alternative
Your own fault, desu. Doesn't excuse Valve for having bad security though.
>>321537532
>fluttershy
even for a horsefucker that's pathetic
>>321537380
Top kek, im blacklisted, had people from the past phone-terrorizing me at 3am etc, so no, you cant find everybody in a phone book.
There is no way to actually defend it.
What SOME people are doing is saying it's not THAT bad.
My thing is that even if it's only a little bad, it's still bad. There shouldn't be anybody defending Valve over this.
It's like defending a television company who mistakenly broadcasted some addresses and phone numbers of people who watch their station.
There is no defending it, it's impossible to defend it. All people can do is claim it's not AS bad as people think.
"Data appears to be 30 minutes old"
Fuck.
>>321523414
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