ITT: Games that were obviously not finished
Undertale.
oh boy
OP's parents obviously didn't finish him.
>>321506363
You obviously dont know Suda if you think that game wasnt done
Soul calibur 5
Sonic Boom
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 5
MGSV
Dark Souls
D4: Dark Dreams Don't Die
Minecraft
>>321506363
I will never forgive them
>>321506605
cheeky fuck
>>321506416You will never save what was never meant to be.
>>321507015
I was mostly thinking about Genocide mode, but yeah.
>>321506493
Suda hasn't directed a God damn game in fucking years. YEARS. The people who did make the games complained about the 'suda51 game' treatment shortly thereafter because suda is too busy being a ceo to even touch games. It fucking sucks because he could make stuff like silver case and Moonlight Syndrome but people still think he was involved with making shit like this
>>321506767
Is 1 any good?
I need to scratch my space itch
Xenogears.
MGSV
>>321506363
I don't know, it felt pretty finished. Great ending, fast pacing, the only shitty levels are the story ones.
Compared to this Grasshopper game.
>>321506363
All of them
>>321508343
>The people who did make the games complained about the 'suda51 game' treatment shortly thereafter
Wait, so who made the game, and what are they working on now?
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>>321510915
They're making Let It Die, assuming the whole thing hasn't been canned.
>>321512067
So the guys that KiD were going to make lilly bergamo and now we're getting let it die instead? Wow, I'm quite pissed. KiD was a lot of fun and had great style.
>>321506363
Every Obsidian title.
>>321512362
Bergamo got trashed and replaced by Let It Die, a f2p, kill men with baseball bats sort of game.
>>321512595
I know. That's what upsets me. Bergamo had a nice style and KiD was fun, so it would have probably been a game I quite liked. Instead we get LiD. It's a waste of a studio and a disappointment. It'll bomb too, so a financial waste that'll probably hurt if not kill the devs on top of it.
>>321512595
And Let It Die itself is currently MIA, it was announced a year and a half ago and literally all we've heard about it after the first trailer is delay announcements.
>>321512781
Honestly, I stopped paying attention to Grasshopper after Suda went full CEO but Bergamo could at least provide some eye-candy. Let It Die looks generic as shit. Maybe their new parent company got a hold of them.
>>321512938
Yeah, it's weird. Some other games which got announced in 2014's E3 also went completely quiet or got cancelled, like Deep Down and Phantom Dust.
>>321512424
The first two fallout games were clearly finished
>>321513439
Are you trying to get my goat?
>implying the first two fallouts weren't unfinished
>implying Interplay is Obsidian
>implying I don't know that you know this stuff
>>321513636
They were finished and obsidian has people from interplay and black isle studios
VtM:B
;_;
>>321513636
But, anon, it's a legacy. They couldn't finish Fallout and went off to found Troika, they couldn't finish VtM:B and Arcanum because of every other complication other than themselves and after getting killed by goddam Bethesda who stole Fallout 3 from them, some of the folks from Troika found Obsidian. Then they couldn't finish Alpha Protocol because of SEGA, New Vegas because of Bethesda(goddammit Bethesda, stop bullying same people again and again) and KOTOR 2 because of Bioware.
I paid £4.99 for this and I still felt ripped off.
>>321513860
>obsidian has people from interplay and black isle studios
Doesn't mean shit, they're different companies.
That's like saying if I work at a steak house then switch jobs to work at mcdonalds you can order a steak.
>>321506363
Game was finished.
They just forgot to turn v-sync on.
>>321513268
Part of me honestly wishes that Gung-Ho dismantles Grasshopper so that Suda has an excuse to leave and can hopefully move onto directing Japanese indie games without just trying to recreate his cult hits.
>>321513975
At least they wised up with Pillars.
>release half a game and call it a full game
>work on Obsidian time on the rest of the game and call it dlc
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>>321508343
Got any sauce on this? not trying to be an ass, I'd absolutely love to read about GhM stories.
I once read on Twitter that Suda51 was giving hotel soap to his employees but I never know where those stories come from.
>>321514310
Just look at the credits for his games. The last game he directed was NMH1. He's had some involvement with his games since then, usually in terms of writing the stories, but even then, a lot of that still gets cut. He was originally going to direct Shadows of the Damned, making it a Kafka-esque nightmare, but the game was plagued with so much development hell that he stepped down. He went through five different revisions of the game, each being shot down by EA for being too weird, until eventually they went with the direction of the finalized game, with a different director entirely and Mikami's consultancy.
I just got the Grasshopper company art book (it actually has English text in it, and from what I can tell, it's translated well), so I'm hoping to read up on more stuff about the company history. Only problem is that it gives higher precedence to the more prolific games and reduces some games like Contact to a single footnote (it doesn't even have any art). Plus, I doubt we'll ever get any real dirt on what's actually going on with Grasshopper, as I imagine that'd throw a few other companies under the bus.
>I once read on Twitter that Suda51 was giving hotel soap to his employees
Why?
>>321514113
This got posted way too late.
>>321514989
christmas gifts or something
>>321514989
I know that, I was talking about the unhappy employees. And the soaps are apparently holiday gifts, as per my Google search, it looks like CheapyD from Cheap Ass Gamer knows people who worked at Grasshopper and told him the guy was a complete asshole.
I just wish Suda went full independent again, Silver Case was fucking nuts and honestly WAY ahead of its time. A game like that would absolutely crush "alt games" from western indies.
>>321515190
Yeah, I just looked it up. Apparently that all came from CheapyD, who actually lived in Japan for years and ran with a lot of the same circles Grasshopper did. He doubled down on stating that Suda is a jerk, saying that at least four employees have told him as much. I don't WANT to believe it, but if anyone would be in a position to know and not fear or be beholden to inter- or intra-company politics, it'd be him.
>>321515397
Oh, whoops. I wasn't fully sure which part of the post you were talking about.
And yeah, I pretty much said the same thing. >>321514208
It pains me that so many early Grasshopper/Human Entertainment/Spike games are still untranslated. I'm learning Japanese right now for business, and if, in a couple of years, they're not translated by the time I have a good level of competency, I'll be tempted to find a ROM hacker and translate them myself.
Pretty much any of the Souls games, really.
I'd say of all the Souls games, Dark Souls 2 is the most incomplete, as it went through one hell of an awful development process and switched directors halfway through and all that drama that's in the design works art book.
Bloodborne is probably the closest thing there is to a complete Souls game, with the most glaring incomplete aspect being the half-baked Chalice Dungeons.
DMC4
>>321516268
5th Archstone never
Finished version of Lost Izalith/Bed of Chaos never
Actual graphics and lighting engine never
Chalice Dungeons as actual story mode content never
I don't know which i'd want them to go back and finish.
>>321516561
>Actual graphics and lighting engine never
cough SotFS cough
>>321514223
How so?
>>321514310
There's a bunch of tidbits on the GhM anniversary artbook that came out early this year. It's written in english and should be avaiable on your local amazon for cheap.
Taking for example KiD, the gigolo stuff was requested by the publisher (Kadowaka) in order to raise sales.
I buyed a WiiU on release because of this.
fuck me
>>321516841
Yeah I have the artbook, it's pretty cool if only for the commentary although it never goes into much detail (not that I expected anything else)
>>321516610
SotFs is a minor increase in quality and is still a long way off in comparison to the first pieces of gameplay footage.
>>321512781
The majority of recent GhM games can be considered a waste of a studio. NMH's success led them to focus and recycle that mediocre gameplay instead of creating something original.
>>321515720
Really if Suda goes back to what he was doing, he needs to do No More Heroes 3.
>>321517121
They should go back to Killer 7 and Silver Case, those games would be a lot more appreciated today.
>>321517178
I don't even know what direction that could go in, seeing as he didn't even direct NMH2.
>>321517208
I would kill for a PC release of Killer7, and I think it strikes the right balance of being niche and mainstream enough to be a possible good seller on Steam.
>>321517178
Another NMH sequel would only continue the trend of creative bankruptcy they are currently in.
They need to move away from the beat'em'up template and go back to experiemental/non sensical games like they used to.
Even with mediocre results (eg Michigan) at least it was something unique and with potential.
>>321515440
>>321515720
>>321515397
the cheapyd podcast where he told the suda51 hotel soap story http://cheapyd.libsyn.com/ca-gcast-277-hotel-soap-yes-
