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Does speed defeat strength, /v/?


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Does speed defeat strength, /v/?
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>>321472680
No.

Gitin' gud does.
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>tfw her cock is bigger than his
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>>321472680
Dick dick defeats your ass fuccboi
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>>321472680
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i want to marry astaroth!
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What good is speed when you can not harm your opponent?
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>>321472680
>20 stone hard muscled war golem vs fifteen year old skinny girl barely past lolihood
>b-but muh agility
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>you'll never square up against Talim, stare her down, and then lovingly ravage her for hours
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>>321472680
that penis would DE_stroy her
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>>321472680
>Talim beating Astaroth ever.

Good one.
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When you use the speed to run in the other direction then you can't be defeated
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>>321473497
>degrading a pure wind priestess' innocence with dirty thoughts

please stop what you're doing
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>left 6'
>right 5'11"
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Speed and strength aren't a polar decision. In reality speed is strength.

Endurance and strength is.
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>>321473760
I never watched past 2 seconds of that webm

what happens
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>>321474063
she coughs
I hope you know what that implies
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>>321473803
>that cameltoe
>pure, innocent
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>>321474063
take a guess what a living heart does.
also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2W1Ted_w4s
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>>321474181
I don't
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>>321473090
Post proof.
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lets see
the girl is athletic and probably trained in using her weapons
though their handguards are awkward to use you could reasonably use them to severely wound or kill someone
big guy on the other hand is wielding a giant slab of metal no human on the planet could use well, even if he manages to swing it, all he'll accomplish by doing so is dislocating his own arms
so yeh, gotta give it to agility
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That example is always funny since Astaroth is nowhere near as slow as you'd think. He'd cleave poor wind slut in two
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>>321474332
>slut

Fuck you.
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>>321473760
MODS MODS
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>>321472680
Well, in fighting games it usually does.
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Speed wins.

"Eat lead" [Fires L85 SA80]

You're dead since speed equals faster shooting.
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>>321474437
shut up, slut
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>>321473760
Wtf am I looking at here?
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>>321472680
Are there crits in this game?

If so, then most likely yes.
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>>321474587
Astaroth's daughter
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>>321473760
She is so cute


Hope she gets well
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>>321474587
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>>321473321
People are easy to harm, even if they are very big.
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>>321474667
What would they do though? Surgery to put the heart back inside the ribcage?
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>Her stomach is rubbing against his bulge
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I've seen walls with bigger busts.
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>>321474842
Yea bro

Or get armor or someshit
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>>321474328
>athletic
She's scrawny.
He's a fucking ogre.

>you could reasonably use them
To gut yourself, maybe.

>a giant slab of metal no human on the planet could use well
Now video game logic doesn't apply? Anyhow, he could knock her fucking head off with a single punch.

You're a skinny guy, aren't you? What are your thoughts on katanas?
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>>321472680
It will never fit her
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>>321473857
She's puffed up on her tiptoes while he's tilting his head down though.
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>>321475067
That is what makes it so great.
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>>321472680
Why is she rubbing her breasts on his crotch?
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Please tell me there's doujins of Astoroth raping Talim.
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>>321472680

Yes

See that exposed leg of his?
She can just slice the back of his knee
See that exposed armpit?
Instant death

That faggot is dead
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>>321475019
if we go by "lol vidya logic" then all that matters is who's the higher level
and sure he could punch her head of, but instead he's choosing to use a weapon that he couldn't possibly use, he'd be more dangerous unarmed
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>>321472680
On equal skill levels, with equal levels of mastery with their respective (or matching) weapons, provided they both have matching levels of stamina and armor, it comes down to a draw.
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>>321475176
sexual implications
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>>321474587
rare condition where her heart grew infront of her ribcage instead of behind

She can easily die if she gets purposely/accidentally punched/hit by something onto her heart
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Strength is speed
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>>321475176
She's hoping that if she gets him horny enough he'll just rape her instead of smashing her head in.
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>>321475176
>breasts
>implying she even needs a bra

wew lad
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>>321474897
lo0l
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>>321472680
This pic makes me hard

What's the name of the genre of big hulking dudes and small girls?
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I need more dex vs str posts.
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>>321472680
>Talims flat chest touching his dick
I would loose cause of a boner that she would use as a advantage against me
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>Grizzly Bears are big
>Grizzly Bears are also fast

This is isn't balanced at all Nature
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>>321475638
>humanity could wipe out every grizzly bear on the planet with little effort

INT>all other stats
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Of course
one hit one dead, if cant hit het, cant kill her.
>>321475240
Dis
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>>321475749
Sure, if you can get to the end-game.
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>2015
>people still mix speed and agility

A bear is fast
A bear isn't agile

A tiger is fast and agile

A strongman might be faster than an acrobat , but he won't be more agile
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No
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He could literally smash her skull with one hand.
Probably with just his golem cock.

>speedfags
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>>321475498
BBC
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the only right way is being both fast and strong. Everything else is shit
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>>321473580

It would make her a Warframe moderator?
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>>321472680
Even if you can
Can't beat the cock
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>>321475867
humanity's been top dog for a long time with nothing but massive int and decent endurance

"make fire" and "craft spear" are early game skills and that's enough to beat pretty much anything
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>>321476034
What if bears had discovered fire and weapon crafting first?
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>>321476027
lmfao
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>>321476132
they don't have the int requirement
only ones that do are chimps, dolphins and corvids

tooluser class hella op
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>>321475176
wat breasts senpai
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>>321476132
They miss the oposable thumbs to make use of them well.

Also they don't fucking need those because they got bear arms.
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>>321476215
Corvids are pretty good. Shame they only lust after your delicious eyeball juice and cannot be trusted
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>>321472680
why his that slut rubbing her exposed stomach all over Astaroth's cock?
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>>321476814
She's in heat.
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>>321476654
She's literally meant to be 4'8, him 7'3.
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>>321473857
is that a joke?
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>>321472680
Both have pros and cons.

The problem with big guys is that they have to knockout opponents rather quickly before they gas out. And their muscle mass slows them down.

While smaller people have more speed and better cardio, they usually don't have the strength in the punches.

It honestly comes down to skill and who can utulize it properly/who the better fighter is.

inb4 Tyson vs Mayweather trolls..
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>>321472680
>mfw full AGILITY
>mfw slow strengthfags can't even touch me
>tfw endurance is the stat that matters most anyway
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>>321473857
do you not know how to do math or are you just shitposting
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>>321472680
>>321473321
>>321473434
>>321475547
>>321476002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyx2B7OW39Q

There are no sub version of this fight
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Talim is so cute. She better be in Soul Calibur 6 and not some deviantart OC or a child/student character that replaces her
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>>321472680
I wish a Talim would rub her bare tummy and belly button on my massive 5 1/2" monster cock.
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>>321477197
You are forgetting one important factor here.
Range

The bigger guy will always have more range.
Good luck fighting someone with already long arms and pole weapon or some shit if you have short arms and a dagger.
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>>321477537
Now this is good funposting
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>>321477273
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>>321472680
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>>321472680
Neither. What beats people is stamina. If you can't throw more then a single punch, no matter how powerful it is, you will never win if your opponent can just dodge it.

But if you are someone that has no power behind your punches, it won't matter how many you throw if you get tired before your opponent.

If you can outlast your opponent, you will win, that's all that matters in the end.
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>>321472680
In SC2, no

Astaroth a best
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>>321476654
I want to give Talim a C-section with my dick!
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>>321472680
That picture makes my dick diamonds, and it shouldn't.
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>>321477553
You are forgetting another crucial part too.The smaller guy usually is the winner if he get's close enough to his opponent. The problem with longer arms is, yup, range of motion. Guys with longer arms have to pull back more and needs more range/longer time to strike. It's also why people over 6'> have problems with squats/their knees and why 5'9< are usually better at the gym/have better aesthetics.

Like I said, pros and cons to everything, it comes to skills on the individual person. And the winner of a fight can still lose a second chance, many factors also needs to be taken into consideration.
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>>321477836
this was pretty much a draw
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>>321477836
Oberyn would have won if he wasn't trying to make the mountain admit to raping and murdering his sister
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>>321477836
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>you will never chain Talim in a basement and rape her daily, slowly breaking her innocence until only a cock-hungry whore remains
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>>321477968
That tumblr artstyle ruins it
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>>321472680
Do you think she could make him cum like that
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>>321472680
If it's 1000 speed vs 1000 strength then speed wins

If it's 50 speed vs 1000 strength strength wins
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>>321478114
>InCase
>tumblr
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>>321477836
I think him using the shitty Charisma stat lost him the fight through. If used correctly DEX builds work much better due to the dot damage.
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>>321477938
This, but replace stamina with magic.

BECAUSE MAGIC IS THE BEST, MELEEFAGS GET OUT
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>SPD
>STR
>Not WILL and END
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>>321475260
>what is berserk
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>>321477836
>All that taunting and angsty "VENGENCE"
I hated him for trying to do that shit. If he saw it and knew, he would have proven his case just by killing that sour-ass, peice of shit.
But that would make for a shit story and television
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>>321472680
>tfw Sigfried is a manlet
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>>321478350
>ice magic lowers movement speed to the point of dodging being nonexistant
>meleefag is an easy target
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>>321472680
Power is beaten by speed
And speed is beaten by technique
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>>321478114
What the fuck is tumblr artstyle?
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>>321478410
Of all the giant anime swords only Zangetsu is wieldable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88MmvSkI1ic
Cloud's sword takes two people to lift, I'm pretty sure Dragonslayer weighs even more.
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>>321475749
If there was a war between humans and grizzly bears and our numbers were roughly equal, grizzlies would win. INT a shit

Assuming no/limited guns.
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>>321476913
That version of Astaroth is 6'8". The Mass Produced Astaroth is 7'2".
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>>321478006
>strike
If you get close to a big guy, he's probably not going to strike you, but grab you.
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>>321477236
> "ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH"
Fucking christ.
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>>321478903
Trying to grab someone with a short reach weapon is not a smart idea. You would want spacing between the two of you, who the fuck would try to grab someone with a knife even as BJJ professional.

I don't think you know very much about combat and self-defense, and I'm not saying it in a condescending way either. It just sounds like you are grasping for straws.
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>>321478783
But the INT difference is exactly what led to us having tools like guns.

It allows us to make use of tools the bears dont have access to.
Saying tools arent allowed is shifting the scenario into the favor of the bears stats.
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>>321478728
shiny blush and red noses.
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>>321472680

That image is pedo as all hell.
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>>321478106
>>321477836
Err, is the whole show like this?
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>Not strength and speed
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I want to press my dick against her tummy
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>>321479525
yea I really don't know what they were thinking with the floating meme text in an hbo show
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>>321479538
The guy who posted that he is endurance and willpower is way more accurate.

Sure he has a lot of strength. But the demons were stronger. And sure hes quick agile accurate, the guy he fought on that cliffside was quicker.

But he endured it all. And he just keeps going.

Why
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>>321478219
>chicks with dicks
>not tumblr
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>>321479525
Without the dumb text, yes
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>>321473321
What good are muscular arms if your brain needs your neck intact?
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>>321472680

>boner raises alert status every time this pic is seen
>doujin of astaroth wrecking her after that confrontation never ever
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>>321472680

Because in armed combat how hard you can punch doesn't matter.
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>>321472680
>Does speed defeat strength
If we're talking about fighting games, then yes.
Most big and heavy fighters are slow and easy to combo on.
The only way they win, if they use this
>>321478613
>technique

If the heavy fighter goes in swinging, with out a plan, then they will lose.
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>>321479731
Serpico?

Serpico only fights him in areas where Guts' huge fucking sword can't be properly used though, such as in that room with all the pillars.

Really though, Guts would be what happened if you used a Gameshark and filled out max stat codes for everything but Charisma and Intelligence

...maybe luck.
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>>321479319
I'm not that guy, and I'm not talking about weapons. That's stupid. You're talking about some guy with a fucking polearm at close range v. some guy with a dagger. Of course the guy without a close range weapon is gimped in close range combat.
The thread is about speed v. strength, not polearms v. daggers.
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Technically wouldn't being stronger allow you to swing your sword faster? And being dexterous has nothing to do with your speed?
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>>321480058
/thread
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>>321480043
Being "slow" isn't a terrible hindrance in itself, it's more that large characters tend to have fewer mobility options (Potemkin and Tager lack dashes, for example) and options in general. Occasionally characters have shit walk speeds but make up for it with strong dashes or teleport dashes.
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>>321480201

You're just a bigger target when sharpened metal or fast moving projectiles are involved.
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>>321478106
>Paladin casts lay on hands.
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>>321480058
>>321480234
>using P:M Ganon
Smash 4 Gamon, has a much harder time, beating C.Falcon, since his Nair can carry Ganon off the stage.
But using this
>>321478613
>technique
Ganon can beat Falcon in a mind game match
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>>321472680
Luck is all you need to win all other stats are useless in the face of it luck.
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>>321480371
That's what armor is for.
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>>321472680
>video games
Majority of the time the quicker character has an advantage

>life
Im sure strength. There is a reason we have weight classes in professional fighting.
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>>321480181
>The thread is about speed v. strength, not polearms v. daggers.
I know, I was responding to someone who made a not well thought of claim , that's all. I already gave statements on the Speed versus Strength argument.
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>>321480498
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>>321480573

It's really funny to watch videos of mismatched weight classes. It usually involves the smaller agile guy getting in a bunch of free hits that do nothing until the big guy hits him once for an instant KO.
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>>321479538
Very rare will a person be gifted with both. One such person was Mike Tyson.
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>>321480742
>hollywood
That's not how knights would fight. They'd keep the shield up and thrust with the sword. There's no way he'd be able to beat them unarmed in that fashion.
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>>321480742

Man. That's some lousy jobbing.

>that point where crusader swings flail and it wraps around sword and he's startled so he hesitates instead of being the one to disarm his foe

what did you pick a fucking flail for in the first place bro...
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>>321480742
>all those cuts on direct violence
>Dat shaky cam
>Dem dutch angles

What a shitty scene
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>>321480757
Please watch fedor for the opposite of that scenario.
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>>321480742

Yeah, this ridiculous Hollywood movie webm totally proved him wrong.

Remember to post a DBZ webm to prove that humans can fly too.
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>>321472680
>tfw I want to be a little girl getting fucked by a giant dick
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>>321480742
Goddammit

Why does this video make me so angry?
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>>321480742
BRUTAL
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>>321480916
you do realize things that happen in movies are only supposed to be possible not likely right... right?
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>>321480619
Yes, and it was a shit rebuttal, because you presuppose that the small guy can get close to the big pole-wielding motherfucker. You didn't address the range issue at all, you just sidestepped it.
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>>321480742
This is such a badly done scene, no wonder people have misconceptions about fighting. Hollywood in general has lied to the vast majority of people, it's sad that young-lings learn from this garbage.

The guy with the rock would never be able to reach the knight. Second, the Knight would never teleport or arch his arm so wide since it leaves him defenseless, and without raising his shield to begin with. That is the number one thing that Knights did.

>>321480916
This guy knows what's up.


Please stop watching movies. They are retarded.
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>>321477749
Eroquis' SC stuff is pretty fucking godly.
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>>321480742
>Peasant has killed Swadian Knight
>Peasant has killed Swadian Knight
>Peasant has killed Swadian Knight
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>>321478481
Kilik too
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>>321480757

Sometimes the smaller ones get lucky though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TelQntPJUA0
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>>321477968
The best one off character.
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>>321480797
Mike Tyson in his prime was a fucking monster. Goddamn Don King and his niggertry.
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>>321481313
>auto resolve.webm
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>>321481457
I'll probably never be okay with the fact that Zuko didn't end up with her.
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>>321472680
Why do you think bullets can kill you? dipshit
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>>321480742
>Not blocking the rock and then bashing the guy with the shield
Why even have a shield if you aren't going to hit the other guy with it?
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>>321481216
>you presuppose that the small guy can get close to the big pole-wielding motherfucker.
Another person without reading comprehension. I said if, which again, comes down to individual skills and many other factors. Spears are not the ultimate weapons, there were ways to get to someone, and we haven't even touched on bows.

> You didn't address the range issue at all, you just sidestepped it.
Because it's obvious that the ranger will have an advantage which is why spears were AKs of bygone eras.

You aren't very good at this I'm afraid so I will stop right here with you since you keep bringing dumb arguments.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJr79WeZmOw

This should clear things up.
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Is Gray Fox DEX or STR?
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>>321480498

Armor can't cover your entire body.
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>>321481513
Yup, godly genetics and trained by Cus, a warrior. He was making Tyson a killer, often telling him to recite "I'm the best" over 100 times a day and gave him the best training. Sadly after he died, it went downhill.
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>>321475183
This is what I came here for. Is there a specific tag for this? A name for that type of size difference?
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>>321481918

The idea is to cover the most important spots.
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>getting into a fight when you're a speedfag
>not retreating and setting up situations where you don't have to fight fair like a real dickbutt
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For a high-skill player, yes. Strength can only punish mistakes, but if speed makes none then there's no contest.
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>>321481714
is this real
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>>321482101
This, only the strong fight fairly.
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>>321482000
Tyson also had negro genetics. Not everyone can swing the arms that fast without injuring themselves. I do boxing regularly as exercise.
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>>321478415
>But that would make for a shit story and television
That's just because it's all that ASoIaF has going for it. The bulk of magical girl shows are better than Game of Thrones
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>>321480120
>for everything but Charisma and Intelligence
Guts is smart as fuck , the same fight you mentioned is a perfect example
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>>321482076

It's impossible to cover the armpits and tendons of the back of your knees.
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>>321481684
Yes, and that is a presupposition, you monumental retard. You don't even know what that word means, do you?

I like how this started with you claiming that you weren't being condescending, then ended by you walking out of the conversation dismissively, as though you're above it all. But go on, pretend to be a combat expert elsewhere.
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>>321479753
fucker InCase was Hentai-Foundry first
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>>321477012
>>321477206
>is that a joke?
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>>321481865
AGL
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>>321482682
>the joke missed you
????
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>>321472680
In real life it does 9 times out of 10.
In vidya, strength is better because nerds don't understand that you can't have muscles on your groin, throat, eyes etc
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>>321482824
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>>321472680
Both are useless without accuracy and timing.
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>>321472680
A gun wins.

These things are so easy to use that children can do it.
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>>321482406

and its rather hard to hit these spots when you're fighting against an armed and trained opponent, especially if you don't have any armor.
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>>321482406
https://www.royalarmouries.org/line-of-kings/line-of-kings-figures-of-the-line/single-object/23
"There is no chink in its protection which completely covers the body."
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>>321477236

So stupid. He's only allowed to do that shit because that guy was literally retarded.
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>>321482982
Best Tekken and Soul Calibur character
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>>321483181
There's no chink until I slam a warhammer roight into that noble's man bloody chest.
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>>321482982
Just what the fuck is Yoshimitsu
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>>321472680
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>>321483369
Ninja Clan Master and half cyborg
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>>321483359
Well that's strength, isn't it.
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>>321472680
I just came in to say that SCII Talim is best Talim.
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>>321483369
A normal dude with one hand cut off, who happens to be a ninja space pirate, apparently.
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>>321483359
you wouldn't even be able to pick it up, nerd. don't kid yourself. go play with a wooden stick
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What wins over what in this webm?
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>>321482406

>what is chainmail
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>>321479319

It's not that hard.

EX: Feint + Jab and/or bait knife, follwed by elbow strike to forward take down. Kick their face in.

It all depends on how good either side is, but let's not pretend just because someone has a knife they automatically win. I've actually seen someone with a knife get one-shotted by an unarmed guy. The unarmed fighter wasn't even that good either.
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>>321473121
>bloodborne.jpg
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>>321483583
Foresight won in this webm. The swordsman was more skilled but the gunman was a step ahead.
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That picture is erotic.
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>not CHA
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>>321483583
If you can easily smack away bullets with a blade, how the hell does any human ever get the drop on you.
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>>321473894
This, but most of all, REACH. Reach is way more important and one of the largest reasons for weight class differences.
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>>321477836
Retard would've won if his head wasn't so far up his ass.
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>>321483891
Came here to cum here and post this
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>>321473121
Anyone have the
>I'm sure to win because of my Charisma
edit
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>>321473497
what is with her dress? The whole character is aesthetically pleasing but her anatomy is wacky.
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What is most important is your dps which accuracy and penetration is the most important factors. How often you hit, and how much damage breeches their defense is what matters. 10 attacks that only 25% go through defenses are not as worrisome as 1 blow that exceeds their defenses by 250%. the big alpha damage blow scares the fast guy, as the next one will kill them etc, so they will play more defensively to try and avoid your blows, allowing you to swing more often, fishing for ht hit.
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>>321483369
Cyborg Ninja Master who's also Robin Hood
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>>321483763
>It all depends on how good either side is
Which is why I said that it comes down to individual skills. What is it that you guys don't get about this concept? I know this is 4chan and all and people tend to be retards, but please, read next time.
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>>321477836
JU KEELED MY SEESTER
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>>321484184
It's one of those dresses from England with the floofy butt.

It's matted down by the rain but the floof persists.
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>>321483980

Agreed, it's why fighters like Jon Jones mauled people. The ones with reach (and can properly make use of it) can often batter and repulse stockier opponents, a punch to the head is disorienting no matter how strong your chin is. On the flip side reach isn't always a sure win Look at Stefan Struve, fucker doesn't take advantage that he's almost always a near a full foot taller than his opponents.
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>>321478113
Stop anon I can only get so erect
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>>321483449
>>321483512
>>321484251
I am left with more questions than I started with.
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>>321484253

You can read my elbow into the bridge of your nose u cheeky cunt.
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>>321483583
bloodborne had a better strategy than kill bill
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>>321484443
It's okay. He's Japanese but he talks in alien.

In Soul Calibur he's also Japanese but talks with a scottish accent for some reason.
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>>321483369
An Alien Samurai/Ninja
It's extremely unclear.
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>>321484207
That only matters for auto-aiming MMO trash.
WoW is dead, let it rot.
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>>321483948

By outsmarting you.
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>>321484184

those kind of dresses have a sort of scaffolding underneath to make the dress puffy
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>>321483359
>implying your peasant ass could even make it to the fucking king
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>>321483583
Why does he stare at him for like 15 seconds without doing anything?

I mean if you can cut bullets in half I'm sure you can push him before he thinks of pulling the trigger since he allows you all that time.
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>>321484443
He's just a weirdo
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>>321484938
looks to be that his sword didn't exactly cut all the way through the other guy's revolver.

perhaps his sword was stuck.
like astaroth in talim
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>>321472680
In games? Generally. Doesn't matter if you do a shit ton of damage if you never get to hit.
In reality? Oh fuck no. She's going to get grabbed and then broken in half. Maybe if she had a ranged weapon, she'd win.

take note that with weapons, speed actually is more important because force = mass*acceleration, and it's a fuckton easier to swing a lighter object quickly than to swing a heavy object fast enough to match
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>>321482189
>is professional wrestling real
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>>321484924
>implying I'm a peasant
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>>321485765
>is collage wrestling real?
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>>321486127
>collage wrestling

Picture arrangement is serious business these days anon.
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>>321485306
Yes the sword was stuck.

But he's not the sword. Arms,legs, head, his entire body could've done a lot more in those 15 seconds rather than just wait for death.
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In every anime/game where it's speed vs strength, the guy with seepd is always just as strong as the strength guy, so of course they win. THey hit just as hard

But in real fight where the guy is so tiny he can't even hurt the other, pure strength comes out on top. Just one simple grapple and its over
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>>321486541
Its a traditional concept in fiction that a samurai is powerless without his sword even if this realistically isn't the case.
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>>321483583
What movie?
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If we're not talking about shitty math games (aka RPGs) where you can always win no matter how bad you are, speed trumps strength.

This is the common thread in every single skill-based game: toplevel players can do more with speed and agility than they can with HP or damage. The entire Quake metagame is based around who moves around the map the fastest, TF2 is based around scouts and rocketjumping soldiers, Starcraft depends most often on which player is most mobile.

It's just more of a thinking man's stat. 'strength' is for direct, brainless confrontations. Speed can be used any way you want. You can use it to secure resources, hit the enemy where he's weak, etc.

Dex beats str a thousand times over.
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>>321473497
puffy [/spoiler]dresses
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>>321486110
based bobby b
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talim a cute
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>>321474260

Oh my word if someone ever punches her in the chest, or accidentally bumps her, she'll probably instantly die. That's terrifying.
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>>321486110
>Asoiaf isnt near finished
>We're likely a decade from Martin even considering a Rob's Rebellion book
Suffering
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>>321486110

>stubby little one-foot pole, retardedly huge head with needlessly large strike face

The household hammer I have in my utility room would make a better weapon than that piece of shit.
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>>321487249

She'll just wear a helmet over her chest, it's not that huge of a deal.
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>>321487128

I think we're talking about a boxed in, 20x20 foot arena. 1v1. Man vs man

You'd be crazy to think speed would win in that situation
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>>321473857
>>321477012
Pissed off short stacks detected
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>>321487302
its weird how misunderstood hammers seem to be in fantasy. I don't think I've ever seen an a pnp handbook or video game that portrays them as anything other than oversized weights. I guess the people who draw this shit have never actually tried to put a nail into a wall in their lives.
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>>321487094
Sukiyaki Western Jango
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>>321487302
>taking offense at the hammer and not the helm
its artwork, a lot of the art of real world battles isn't true to combat realies either
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>>321487128
Speed only wins when there's space to employ that speed.

Take space away or corner the speedster, and he's in for a beating.
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>>321487302
its a two hander the image just cuts off the rest of the handle
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>>321487553
>Sukiyaki Western Jango
Cheers
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>>321484313
JOO RAPED HER
JOO KEELED HER KEEDS
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>>321487530
>. I guess the people who draw this shit have never actually tried to put a nail into a wall in their lives.

>war-hammers are used to put nails in walls

Guess we should also make all swords shorter because they started from knives huh? Man it's like all these medieval blacksmiths never cut a steak in their lives.
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>People still this triggered by Oberyn
How many years has it been?
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>>321487940
15 for bookfags
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Came here for Talim lewds, you faggots disappoint me.
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>>321479753
Chicks with /d/icks are a proud part of 4chan history.
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>>321487898
War hammers are designed in the same way as any other hammer anon. A small head focuses the force of the swing into a single point. Having a large head is counterproductive and anyone who has ever used any sort of hammer should understand this.
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>>321482824

Depends on your reference frame.

From the frame of the joke, you missed it.
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>>321477201

>forestgankers.webm
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>>321477236
How can someone break his leg by turning? Thats impossible.
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>>321472680
Yes
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>>321483583
This is like cheating. He had a big sword, he had a big gun.
But he had a small gun, and the other nothign else. Why not giving him an additional mini knife then to deflect the small bullets?
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>>321487692
rip kotaki
rip guild wars
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>>321477236
Oh wow...
I dont remember Samurai X fights being this shitty.
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>>321484054
You still around, /scvg/?

Miss y'all.
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>>321476002
what about being brutally cunning?
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>>321492676
>not cunningly brutal
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>>321473321
It doesn't matter how strong you are, as long as you are still made of meat a blade can cut you.
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>>321472680
He's lucky to be getting a clothed abjob from her
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>>321477236
this is absolutely retarded
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Taki weighs more and is taller than Seigfried in Soul Calibur

look it up
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>people think they could take on a 6'3+ linebacker
>don't realize those people are almost pure muscle and are far faster on their feet than any dumb faggot who thinks they're quicker or "smarter"

Size matters. It always matters. It doesn't mean guaranteed win, but you damn well know some 5'3" dipshit who knows karate is going to get dunked on hard by someone like Shaq.
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>>321493927
She was.
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>>321493927
>japanese girl
>170 cm
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>>321493927
>Siegfried in SCII - IV is 5'6"
>One of my favorite characters in fighting games is a manlet
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>>321494403
Sprinters and such - actual "speedy" people - are fucking tall as well.
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>>321478409

Is Guts literally the greatest character across all mediums??
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>>321494974
Linebackers ARE sprinters. They need to be able to perform great speeds at the drop of a hat, and to turn on a dime. Not everyone can be a linebacker, and I promise you a linebacker is not someone to think "lel slow faggot" and not have your face pasted in the cement.

Height can mean a lot, but context with height is the most important part. Shaq is pretty huge, but Andre the Giant could easily snap him in half, for instance.
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>>321494860
Yeah, Taki is an amazon for a Japanese woman in the 1500s
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>>321472680
>>321472964
>>321473121
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>>321484184
Big butts aren't a new thing, bro. People have wanted dat ass for thousands of years. That is a way to get a fake ass.
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>>321481918
>Armor can't cover your entire body.
I mean... I guess if you're counting like eye-slits and the palms of someone's hands and soles of their boots. But, yeah, armor can totally cover your entire body.
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>>321481313
lol'd.
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>>321486110
>roight into that noble's man bloody chest.

Yes, you implied you were a peasant.
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>>321490353

By not turning properly combined with how fast he was moving.

Your body isnt made out of rubber it cant just bend any which way
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>>321496608
It didn't actually use to, at least until the invention of interlocking plates that could give you the range of movement like >>321483181

Before that, you would have a large breast plate to deflect attacks to the vital areas and maybe a skirt for the lower extremities, anything else was covered in chainmail and that was considered 'good enough'.

Armors like that are also expensive and time consuming to make. Couldn't issue them to every front line soldier.
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>>321477236
That was the most arbitrary shit ever
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>>321495534

In fairness I think most of the characters are pretty tall for what is historically appropriate

at least the asians anyways, and I guess Ivy. she's pretty tall
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>>321490353
Stress fractures happen like that all the time. If you are running in a sprint and don't make the turn, it is completely possible to snap the tibia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtiLPew7lF4
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>>321493650
>this is absolutely retarded

if you think that was dumb you should see the shit that goes down in the jinchu arc

Im not even gonna post the mecha


for as much as people rag on the crappy filler arc of the anime the manga was just as bad with an extra helping of OW THE EDGE.

there was no reason to continue anything after Kyoto
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>>321497240
Forget the foot soldier, that was armour for a king.
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>>321497240
Are you saying that Mail wasn't armor? There was nothing that specified only plate armor. And, there was also nothing that said we were on a budget in this hypothetical situation.
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>>321495668
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>>321493927
>that bodysuit
damn
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>>321472680
there is a very good reason most blood sports have weight classes nerd
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>>321477836
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>>321497772

Taki best soul
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>>321472680
Not in a video game setting. I'll bet a very stupidly quick or dexterous person could at least STAB a strong guy before getting his clock cleaned. Just fuck up his leg or arm or neck or eye.
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>>321473121
https://youtu.be/WM33Hr94SKw?t=16s
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>>321497887
now if only she was slimmer and pale/raven haired
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>>321497871
Yeah sure, but all those punches Dex got in are gonna last much longer.
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>>321495235
I like to think so
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>>321497690
No, I would say its armor, but I was referring more towards plate armor, which is the stereotypical 'armor' look that people think of when you say a knight.

I'm not even arguing about anything in regards to armor. I just wanted to state the reality of most armors through the years.
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>>321498118
If they actually fought the bigger guy would kill him
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>>321473718
If strength guy blocks speed girls objective then it could be a problem
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>>321498178
Ah, just a red herring, then.
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>>321481549
Lel
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>>321498194
All I'm saying is Dex is damage over time as opposed to blowing your load with just 1 or 2 hits.
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>>321498259

I love Asuham. He's like the universes bitch
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>Speed or Strength
>Power or Agility
>Brute force or Evasiveness
Why not both?
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>>321497871
That's not really dex, he threw more punches, but he didn't try to move away from his opponent he was just punching. A person that is completely str can attack fast too. Speed is not tied to Dex like games want you to believe.

This is simply an example of endurance and people with more bulk are more likely to have it.
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>>321498368
>being worse at both instead of good at one
"I fear not the man who has fapped to everything once. I fear the man who has fapped to one thing 10,000 times." - Jet Li
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>>321498368

not enough XP to go around, mate. You split it down the middle and you're gonna be doing shit for damage either way come endgame
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>>321498368
There really needs to be a balance. Strong enough to finish your opponent within a few strikes, hardened enough to endure their strikes, fast enough to strike first and generally be fast on your feet, and focused enough to see the fight through

>>321495235
With all that I just said, I have to agree. One of the things we tend to recognize first is his strength but there's so much more
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>>321497805
Because they don't allow weapons, exploiting weak points, or generally anything even remotely close to actual, practical fighting?
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Both fall to Range
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>>321498368
Because that's not the point of the thread shitlord.
God you're like cartman in that one ninja episode of southpark who makes the game no fun because he keeps making up new powers for himself when everyone else agrees to just have 1. You're THAT kid.
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>>321494862
Hey! He is 5'8 now!
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>>321498869
Good Times With Weapons season 8
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>>321497805
>Dark Eldar hitting last

Rofl. "no".

Then again, S3 and AP3....

Yeah, this picture checks out.

And the only reason is seeing sexy butts.
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>>321498986
What's the canon of SC?

I only played 1 and 3.

Is it

SC1 - Siegfried gets the sword

and then what?
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>>321499046
Poor Butters. He got that throwing star in his eye.

For all the shit that Butters had thrown at him, he's probably one of the realist characters on that show. Completely blew the fuck out of those emo kids.
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>>321498869
ummm... what?
How is that in any way comparable to me compromising instead of choosing between Full Autism and Full Retardation.

Like, I get that the idea is that we choose one, but that is probably the worst analogy i think I've ever seen in my life.
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>>321498259
what anime
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>>321499212
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>>321499210
>SC1 - Siegfried gets the sword
>and then what?

and then a whole lot of nothing
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>>321498594
>>321498653
Completely investing into one stat is generally a bad idea overall. At the very least, you need to make a minor investment in some of the other stats before dumping the rest into one particular stat.
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>>321499243

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc0rW5fsfxA

Overman King Gainer
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>>321499243
overman king gainer

directed by yoshiyuki tomino
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>>321499338
Ah. Remember a time when southpark had it's own story, and jokes, and was funny?
Now every single episode is literally just
1: Take current event
2: Exaggerate it to ridiculous proportions so you can call it satire
3: Throw the south park characters into it (but 99% of the time nobody but cartman or randy will really do anything)
4: ?
5: Profit
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>>321499384
So he becomes Nightmare(?) and that's it? There is no canon replacement? I swear I saw in the trailers for 4 and 5 that there was somebody duelling him or somebody replaced him... Like the sword got destroyed, then corrupted the sword that destroyed it or something.
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>>321499564
Current Event + Something Wacky = Episode about discovering how they're actually related


Sucks.
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>>321499210
Soul Edge - Siegfried gets the sword

SC1 - Siegfried, now Nightmare, goes around trying to complete Soul Edge

SC2 - Nightmare is still trying to complete the sword, runs into Raphiel at the church. Raph gets his shit pushed in, but manages a hit on the eye. This allows Siegfried to defeat Inferno, who he had been battling for control of the body.

SC3 - Seigfried plunges Soul Calibur into Soul Edge after he managed to get control, creating the Soul Embrace. Seigfried looks for a way to destroy Soul Edge, ultimately fails. Nightmare is now his own entity and is looking to reclaim Soul Edge

SC4 - the King that made Soul Edge returns and claims both Soul Edge and Calibur is defeated

SC5 - Sophitia's kids are all grown up, but because of that time that Soul Edge was in her body, one of her kids is corrupted
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>>321499564
Main problem with South Park is, they don't stick to a side. They point out some bad shit, but then quickly forget the bad shit and replace it with some non-offensive, everybody can agree, bad shit.

This season, first time since S1 and a few odd espidoes I've seen, was about how SJW are bad and end up causing more problems than solving. But then they threw that out the window 4 episodes in to replace with "Let's forget about SJW, they're not THAT bad ;) But ads! We all hate ads, right? You know, the ads that keep our network afloat, oh and our website which won't allow you to watch our episodes if you have adblocker on, that's assuming you're not from UK or Ireland ;)))"

Why? You know what I was hoping for? That the Pro-SJW would end up going "Stop persecuting ads! They're human and awesome and leave them alone!". It would have shown SJW as being fucking stupid despite the evidence in front of them showing ads are bad.

Instead it was "lol, ads are bad, lol aliens, we all need to be good, oh, here is some shit about how if we all had guns, nobody would get shot, it's not like Bojack Horseman did exact same joke in one of it's episodes ;)"
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>>321499670
>SC5 - Sophitia's kids are all grown up, but because of that time that Soul Edge was in her body, one of her kids is corrupted

goddamn all the new characters in 5 where shit.

You know Id be willing to deal with them swapping out Taki for her pupil if said pupil wasn't literally girl Naruto

but ugh, Natsu is just the worst thing ever.
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>>321472680
that slut way too close to his cock
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>>321499228
yeah whatever that kid. Enjoy never getting invited to play pretend by the other kids because while everyone else is saying
>"ok my weapon is sword and my element is fire"
>"i'll be earth with a hammer
and you
>"UH I HAVE ALL THE WEAPONS AND MY ELEMENTS ARE FIRE WATER EARTH WIND LIGHTNING DARKNESS LIGHT AND ICE"
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>>321475638
Siberian tigers hunt Ussuri brown bears, and those bears shit all over grizzlies.

Quality always wins.
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>>321499670
Oh thanks.
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>>321497739
Yeah he completely dominated the fight and only 'lost" because of his political agenda.
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>>321499932
In USA, they used to do bears vs lion fights. Lions always lost. I know tigers are bigger and shit, but it was one of Americas crazy phases.
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>>321499916
Again, that has nothing to do with me compromising.

I hope you realize YOU are the one moving the goalposts,
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Strength fags overestimate how fragile they are
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>>321500118
In like a cage? No shit.
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>>321500159
Yeah. For some reason they always pretend pumping strength also magically increases their health and armor.
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>>321472680
>Huge bulge pushed against her tummy
Ooft.
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>>321497887
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>>321500264
Yeah I'm just having a conversation anon....
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>>321500304
I was wondering if anyone was ever going to mention how the two are the perfect height for a standing flat chested titjob.
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>>321474328
Astaroth isn`t human so your argument is moot
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>>321499979
>a spear, while being used to slice (lol?), breaks through chain-mail letting the quick dude take pot shots at the slow dude.

I love game of thrones but this triggered the shit out of me. why give him heavy ass armor if your gonna pretend its made of paper.
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>>321472680
Never
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>>321500314

>No Milfy ninja masater

one job bamco
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>>321475260
Soul caliber doesn`t have levels, its a fighting game >_>
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>>321472680
In that specific case it might.
In fighting games where no weapons are used, she'd be dead without question.

Never understood why they even include makes in fighting games though. Women are so much more fun to look at and play as.
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>>321500658
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>>321500762
you gonna tell me a 7 foot tall dude swinging around an 8 foot long axe isnt gonna have an advantage vs a 5 foot chick with esentially daggers?

outside of anime logic reach is king in 99% of combat.
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>>321499979
Ramsay should have jumped in at the last moment and saved him
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>>321500796

really. She's a magic anime ninja who's been carting around a piece of soul edge for decades. No reason she can't still be active

Hell Id be happy with her being an alternate hidden character, like Hwangs Master was back in Blade.

too old my ass
>>
Real answer-

Reach is king in all combat.

The person with the longest range will win, outside very unlikely and specific situations.

This applies to all combat, both modern and historical.
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>>321499932

Ussuri brown bears aren't as big as kodiaks.
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>>321500118
They are bigger and stronger. For all their "bread only to fight!" shit Lions get blown the fuck out every time there is a conflict with a tiger, there is a report of a tiger basically decapitating (not clean off obviously) a lion with one paw swipe.

About those fights, you have to keep in mind that bears were probably captured from the wilds in America, while lions would have to be brought in. Most likely it came down to a wild animal fighting an emaciated, broken one that was probably bread in captivity for the circus and the like.

That being said it's not a landslide for the Siberian tiger when it comes to these confrontations, the track record is like 2:1. Both males are significantly stronger then the females of their respective species, and like all predators the tigers prefer to hunt the smaller and younger bears. Big male tigers will hunt anything though and bears actually make up a significant portion of their diet.
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>>321472680
No but I try my best to make it be true anyway.

It doesn't usually work very well. Still, it's more fun. Sort of.
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>>321499473
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc0rW5fsfxA [Embed]
nice fluid animation but protagonist looks like literal self insert of a emotionally suspended young japanese male
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this is how dex vs strength is
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>>321501705

Gainer's actually kind of awesome. I don't want to spoil any shit but the shows a lot of fun.
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>>321501536
Did i say Kodiaks? They aren't much smaller though with some specimens going way over 600kg.
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>>321502027
>>321502027
>>321502027
what is this wwe bullshit?
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But if you don't like Gainer there's always Gain to root for
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>>321472680

>Soul Calibur 3
>main Astaroth when I start playing
>spam L1 or whatever to do a big wide swing
>always win
>??????
>profit
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>>321495235
I like Takezo more, just because he has a fuckton of character development
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>>321493927
Its like theres some kind of an universal dynamic ninja pose.
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>>321502528
cute girl, what manga?
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>>321472680
>People think that the speed will always beat the strength because it will always dodge
>The strength just needs to attack where the speed is going to be.

Reads nigger. Where as the speed character making a read isn't as damaging most of the time because they're fast for consistency.
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why everone is thinkign more of size = more of slower.
???
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>>321502591
>girl
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>>321502591
One Punch man
its a guy
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I just always figured if they can't hit you then they can't win so I kind of favored speed builds over strength ones, granted walking around clad in armor and wielding a giant two handed sword of death is pretty satisfying.

I always was a sucker for speed builds, especially the assassin motif and shit like that where you can teleport around the battlefield like a phantom and execute one enemy after another.

Yes I'm a weeaboo
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>>321502720
>>321502703
Fucking traps.

Thanks.
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why do people think that more speed = less damage?

More speed = far more damage than giant pecs could ever do. I mean for fucks sake bullets are kind of puny
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>>321493927
Half of it just pure tit.
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>>321502798
look how tiny bullet is though
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>>321502027
are headlocks not allowed in boxing?
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what are some tips on making a punch, well, punch really hard? it cant just be being /fit/, is it?
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>>321502905
training
you're literally just lobbing your meat and bones at another person as hard as you can, so if you fuck it up you get hurt.
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>>321502905

aim for the dick
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>>321502831
Tits... Don't grow up and down, anon.
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>>321502905
Use your body, dont stiffen up your arm and flex it. Think of it as an explosion, use your arm muscles to create an explosion.
Practice
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>>321502148

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSFQrPzSAnE

Muhammad Ali vs Micheal Dokes.

>>321502872

>are headlocks not allowed in boxing?

No. Jesus Christ.
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>Falling for the "strength = slow" meme
Fucking retards
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>>321475890
I think a bear would beat a tiger in a fight.
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>>321503007
>>321503032
>>321503103
thanks. as someone whos working out and doing some martial shits thats pretty helpful.

how do i know my punches are really hard though? like with a punching bag? will the punching bag break or is that just some anime shit?
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>>321503149

Yeah STRONG body means STRONG LEGS. Hulk is actually crazy fast in terms of leaping ability.
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>>321503239
>thanks. as someone whos working out and doing some martial shits thats pretty helpful.

do you have a proper instructor? Because all the self taught badass anime shit you often see is pure Oscar Mayer bologna

Kid in our jr high though he could train himself to be a goddamn ninja, picks a fight with the wrong dude. got flattened
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>>321477201
Spiderman is strong as shit though.
How do you think he's jumping that high?
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>>321503239
Yes, if you train hard enough and stay determined you will eventually be able to break punching bags with a single strike.
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>>321503103
dude its not that complex
think about how helicopters get alot speed and power they just spin around a center point real fast

thats how a good punch is thrown, have you arm kinda loose so when you hit your opponent you dont do yourself any harm and then sorta throw your arm around from the shoulder trying to get it to go as fast as you can

if you try all this fancy shit with stiffing up your arm you might pull a muscle
i remember ages ago when i was in school some bully was laughing at me cause i was getting ice cream from the cafeteria (i wasnt even that fat) and i had enough of his shit so i went up to him and tried to punch him really hard but i ended pulling a muscle in my back when i tried to do what you are saying
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>>321503239
just like make your arm go as fast as it can go and u will win every fight
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>>321472680

In this matchup, yes speed wins.

A good Talim player is annoying as fuck.
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>>321503375

he's also precognitive. It's kind of easy to dodge shit when you know it's coming a mile away.

Pete's honestly goddamn terrifying when he goes all out
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>>321494862
its hard getting your all necessary nutrients as a peasant back in feudal europe anon.
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>>321499473
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsWMjLWP5eE
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>>321503237

Read nigga, read!
>>321499932
>>321501593
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>>321503353
>do you have a proper instructor?

Yeah im not autistic. Im learning krav maga and judo right now. Cant find any instructors for sambo and aikido so im just watching instructional videos.

>>321503404
Thanks familia. One day ill become my own Big Boss
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>>321480043
I dunno, it really does balance out pretty nicely.
A slower character is usually gonna have less chances but if they do it's devastating.

Compare Hugo v anyone with low health, he's not gonna have a great time on offense but once he gets his moment it's like 60% of their health gone. Bigger characters also don't need to worry about chip and small trades as much and can just muscle their way in.
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>>321472680

Astaroth would never lose to Talim.

Oh, you're in grabbing range? Enjoy losing 3/4's of your hp bar.
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>>321497942
Raiden being able to pick up and throw a fucking metal gear might be a clue that he isn't exactly DEX only.
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>>321503667
You can't make me.

Tigers and bears are cool as shit.
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>>321497772
Nothing to the imagination.
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>>321502798
Yeah but imagine like, a big rock going at an 8th of the speed.
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>>321504225

I dunno man I can imagine a whole lot.

>>321504236

an 8th the speak of Flash is still fucking fast
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>>321504327
Well I was thinking the speed of a bullet.
Regardless, it does a lot more damage.
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>>321502798
DEXfags aren't Flash-fast.

No shit Flash is OP.
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>>321504327
Well yes, but basically you can see everything, and that's not a complain, she's hot anyway.
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>>321504393

Well if google is correct and Im too lazy to properly research it the average bullet is a impressive 1700 mph

so divide that by 8 and yeah, that'll still fuck you up
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>>321502798

Flash moves so fast he vibrates through matter, right?

Wouldnt his punches just vibrate through people too?

Also, if he slowed down his punch to NOT vibrate through atoms, wouldnt the friction create a fire hot enough to destroy the atmosphere?

The flash just bothers me because of how retarded and nonsensical he is.
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>>321504704

nah man. when he runs through shit if he doesn't put it back right it fucking goes boom
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>>321504792
>The Flash is Radical Larry
Lost it
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>>321498869
You really reached for this one. You just wanted to mention SP
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yeah ok BUT WHERE IS THE PORN
you cant start threads with pics like that and then not give me something to fap to goddamn
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>>321499564
No, but I remember a time it did exactly what you're claiming it only recently started to do.
South Parks fucking overrated and always was.
>>
Yes. Just ask Manny Pacquiao and that boxer guy from that one anime.
>>
Real world logic:

>unarmed

Weight and strength are critical in unarmed combat. Weight classes exist in martial arts for a reason.

Winner: Strength

>melee

Weapons will fuck you up no matter how big and strong you are. But physical strength is still extremely important.

>fire arms

Physical strength required mostly for carrying equipment and endurance. It is less important now. Killing is now done by a machine that anyone, including kids can wield. Guns are the great equalizer. Just look at how good the YPG are doing against Islamic State.
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>>321504704
Speedforce nigga.
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>>321502027

>Two heavyweights

But both of them are fast, agile, and strong.
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>>321503997
Old Astaroth in I-IV or new Astaroth in V?
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>>321498986
>Dat messy hair
Bueno...
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>>321479753
He still does futa? Last I checked he was just doing completely gay material.
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>>321500314
>Extra the manly men
We have two big guys
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god, everyone on the fucking block, their mom, dog and little brother had a fucking talim back in the day. shit was annoying
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>STR
>DEX
I choose intelligence instead.
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>>321499564
Same shit happened to the Simpsons
>>
Why do games need to add evasion ALONGSIDE DEF with MDEF/MEN?

I mean, it is always poorly implemented. It either do jackshit or OP as fuck maxing it.
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>>321499869
>here is some shit about how if we all had guns, nobody would get shot

Didn't Simpsons do that in that halloween special?
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>>321501593
>bread
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>>321506380
for (you)
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>>321472680
That's a pretty dumb question OP. Not only does it depend on way more factors than just speed and strength, but it doesn't specify just how much faster or stronger each fighter is than the other. Are they just a little faster? Then strength would probably win. Are they so much faster they can move at the speed of sound or some shit? Then speed would clearly win.
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>>321472680
whoever attacks first usually wins. usually. before you go full autist and post proof that this isn't true. if you have a gun or knife and shoot or stab someone before they attack you, most like they're going to die.
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>>321483583
Subweapon/Offhands always win in situations like this.
>>
>Hate Astaroth's character and playstyle
>Am actually pretty decent with him due to TLoS
I never wanted this, just for Rock to be good again
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>>321502027
Nah, Willie Pep is the ultimate dexfag. Won a round without ever throwing a punch once.
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>>321507479

Id be happy if rock was just USED again.

5 was the perfect chance to bring in Bangoo but nothing
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>>321506574
>all the /tg/ anger about "improved" systems summed up in one image

Levels are a gauge of relative power.
A caster cannot cast nuclear detonation at the same level where a fighter is just a guy who is strong, and a thief is just dick. If this wasn't the case and everyone could become a godlike special snowflake by studying a bit these other professions wouldn't exist.
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>>321507675
And Li Long's child, but I'm not even sure if Project Soul even remember Li Long, let alone his kid
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>>321472680
DEX just wants to ride STR dick.
>>
>>321507981

they remember him enough to remember that his wife is now Taki's boss or some shit
>>
>>321472680
>Mfw people still think that STR means you have to be slow as shit
>>
>>321507981

For what it's worth Li Long is mentioned in the Project Soul book, as is the fact that he has a son, but the son isn't named.
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>>321509157
Well, in virtually every game that makes you choose between the 2 it does.
>>
Yes if you combo it right. I played SCV arcade yesterday and got my ass kicked by Nightmare because he had both speed, strength and reach. I got pretty close as Maxi but as soon as I missed a combo he would juggle the fuck out of me. Almost got him though.
>>
>You will never have a feisty brown loli press her tummy on you're penis
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>>321509157
>mfw literally every "A or B" thread is guaranteed to always have some smartass thinking they're clever saying "lel i choose both :)"
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>>321509340
>SCV
I still hate who ever put the 8,600 m trophy in.
Last one I need to get for platinum
>>
>>321509156
Chie?
Natsu's mom?
>>
>>321509224
>but the son isn't named.

It's Riki

>>321509850

Chie was the daughter of the Fuuma clan's leader. When Taki's master Toki went all demon crazy Chie stole his sword he sent his ninja after her and it was believed she was killed.

Taki eventually killed Toki and was the one who told Li Long she was okay.

Im not sure who Natsu's mom is though. Every time I look something about her up I just get angry and stop.
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>>321509443
>brown loli
I don't want garbage on my dick
>>
>>321477836
Look at the idiot who wrote that.
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>strong characters are not fast for some retarded reason
Dexterity is a stupid concept that should be replaced with skill, bloodborne did this right.
You can be strong as fuck but unable to use your strength and speed effectively.
You can be weaker but have actual combat experience.
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>>321510224
Chie was Li Long's wife?
>>
>>321510403
>Dexterity is a stupid concept that should be replaced with skill, bloodborne did this right.

it's all just carry over from dnd
>>
>>321510508

yep.
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>>321510224

Oh apparently I wasn't looking close enough, the Project Soul book does state in at least two places that Riki is Natsu's adoptive brother.

Can't find anything about Natsu's natural mother, only that Chie is her adoptive one.
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>>321480043
>>Does speed defeat strength
>If we're talking about fighting games, then yes.

uhh if we are talking abuot fighting games then it compeletly depdns on the character and the priority of their moves.

This is why fighting games have tiers.
>>
>>321472680
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ8S8_O0OYM
When will fatties learn
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>>321510576
So, Natsu was Toki's grandaughter?
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>>321510601
>Priority
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>>321502051
best music opening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc0rW5fsfxA
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>>321472680
speed comes from strength
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>>321472680
>pressing her stomach against his crotch
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>>321510871

What about it?
>>
>>321510727

No. Chie's pop was some other guy. the "first leader" Toki went power mad, killed him, tried to kill Chie and got killed by Taki
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>>321511206
It doesn't exist in 90% of fighting games.
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>>321481918
or can it ?
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>>321511281

Even that doesn't cover the entire body. There's a small gap beneath the armpit. Guess what else is around that area, an artery.
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>>321511281
HOT
O
T
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>>321511441
>There's a small gap beneath the armpit.

No, there's not.
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>>321511281
the booty game ridiculous
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>>321511281
I want to see how well a guy on that armor can move, or even attack. I sure as hell know a mace can make all of that useless.
>>
>>321512061
sadly that armor is too valuable a relic to ever be worn by a person
>>
>>321512061
It was probably never worn. A King, fight in battle?
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>>321512519
tournaments
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>>321472680

No

Strength vs skill is a little more even.
>>
>>321472680
No, it's just that most muscle heads are idiots.

And idiots always lose to smarter people.
>>
A small weapon coming at you with extreme speed and accuracy is way more dangerous than a big weapon coming at you slowly.
>>
>>321480058
This is what neckbeards truly believe in and jerk over.
>>
>>321513448
If you're going to use real-life consequences, you have to use real-life physics.

The big guy isn't slow either.
>>
>>321512457
>>321512519
I was implying that the armor was useless because it's far too heavy to attack, and mace would still be able to penetrate that.
>>
>>321500624

Spears and thrust type weapons are literally the most effective way of countering chain armor though.
>>
>>321476002
And a wicked sense of humor.
>>
>>321513706
If you're wielding a giant-ass axe or similarly sized weapon like the guy in OPs pick it's going to take a lot of time just to windup your swing. Compare this to how quickly someone could stab or slash with a sword or dagger and big guy could be dead before he even starts an attack
>>
>>321513936
It's not.
Believe it or not, armor was made for people to fight in. People fought in these. They are only slightly cumbersome.
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>>321514114
Right. But that's a videogame. So when you stab the guy with the giant axe in the videogame, he's not going to so much as flinch.
>>
>>321514165
First you tell me to go by real life consequences and then very next post are saying it's a video game.
>>
>>321514114
Assuming you can even reach him in time.
Swinging a weapon is quite fast if you're prepared, which you should be, since you're engaged in a duel.

The person with the larger weapon will also know you want to get in close and aim to keep you out and use their range advantage to kill you.

There's a reason that daggers are side arms.
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>>321498653
You only run out of XP when everything else is dead.
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>>321502798
Force is a combination of acceleration and mass. A Car crashing in to you has as much force as a bullet hitting you.
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>>321475638
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>>321478783
Humans hunted mammoths to extinction with sharpened sticks and atlatilas
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