Does speed defeat strength, /v/?
>>321472680
No.
Gitin' gud does.
>tfw her cock is bigger than his
>>321472680
Dick dick defeats your ass fuccboi
>>321472680
i want to marry astaroth!
What good is speed when you can not harm your opponent?
>>321472680
>20 stone hard muscled war golem vs fifteen year old skinny girl barely past lolihood
>b-but muh agility
>you'll never square up against Talim, stare her down, and then lovingly ravage her for hours
>>321472680
that penis would DE_stroy her
>>321472680
>Talim beating Astaroth ever.
Good one.
When you use the speed to run in the other direction then you can't be defeated
>>321473497
>degrading a pure wind priestess' innocence with dirty thoughts
please stop what you're doing
>left 6'
>right 5'11"
Speed and strength aren't a polar decision. In reality speed is strength.
Endurance and strength is.
>>321473760I never watched past 2 seconds of that webmwhat happens
>>321474063she coughs
I hope you know what that implies
>>321473803
>that cameltoe
>pure, innocent
>>321474063
take a guess what a living heart does.
also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2W1Ted_w4s
>>321474181I don't
>>321473090
Post proof.
lets see
the girl is athletic and probably trained in using her weapons
though their handguards are awkward to use you could reasonably use them to severely wound or kill someone
big guy on the other hand is wielding a giant slab of metal no human on the planet could use well, even if he manages to swing it, all he'll accomplish by doing so is dislocating his own arms
so yeh, gotta give it to agility
That example is always funny since Astaroth is nowhere near as slow as you'd think. He'd cleave poor wind slut in two
>>321474332
>slut
Fuck you.
>>321473760
MODS MODS
>>321472680
Well, in fighting games it usually does.
Speed wins.
"Eat lead" [Fires L85 SA80]
You're dead since speed equals faster shooting.
>>321474437
shut up, slut
>>321473760
Wtf am I looking at here?
>>321472680
Are there crits in this game?
If so, then most likely yes.
>>321474587
Astaroth's daughter
>>321473760
She is so cute
Hope she gets well
>>321473321
People are easy to harm, even if they are very big.
>>321474667
What would they do though? Surgery to put the heart back inside the ribcage?
>Her stomach is rubbing against his bulge
I've seen walls with bigger busts.
>>321474842
Yea bro
Or get armor or someshit
>>321474328
>athletic
She's scrawny.
He's a fucking ogre.
>you could reasonably use them
To gut yourself, maybe.
>a giant slab of metal no human on the planet could use well
Now video game logic doesn't apply? Anyhow, he could knock her fucking head off with a single punch.
You're a skinny guy, aren't you? What are your thoughts on katanas?
>>321472680
It will never fit her
>>321473857
She's puffed up on her tiptoes while he's tilting his head down though.
>>321475067
That is what makes it so great.
>>321472680
Why is she rubbing her breasts on his crotch?
Please tell me there's doujins of Astoroth raping Talim.
>>321472680
Yes
See that exposed leg of his?
She can just slice the back of his knee
See that exposed armpit?
Instant death
That faggot is dead
>>321475019
if we go by "lol vidya logic" then all that matters is who's the higher level
and sure he could punch her head of, but instead he's choosing to use a weapon that he couldn't possibly use, he'd be more dangerous unarmed
>>321472680
On equal skill levels, with equal levels of mastery with their respective (or matching) weapons, provided they both have matching levels of stamina and armor, it comes down to a draw.
>>321475176
sexual implications
>>321474587
rare condition where her heart grew infront of her ribcage instead of behind
She can easily die if she gets purposely/accidentally punched/hit by something onto her heart
Strength is speed
>>321475176
She's hoping that if she gets him horny enough he'll just rape her instead of smashing her head in.
>>321475176
>breasts
>implying she even needs a bra
wew lad
>>321474897
lo0l
>>321472680
This pic makes me hard
What's the name of the genre of big hulking dudes and small girls?
I need more dex vs str posts.
>>321472680
>Talims flat chest touching his dick
I would loose cause of a boner that she would use as a advantage against me
>Grizzly Bears are big
>Grizzly Bears are also fast
This is isn't balanced at all Nature
>>321475638
>humanity could wipe out every grizzly bear on the planet with little effort
INT>all other stats
Of course
one hit one dead, if cant hit het, cant kill her.
>>321475240
Dis
>>321475749
Sure, if you can get to the end-game.
>2015
>people still mix speed and agility
A bear is fast
A bear isn't agile
A tiger is fast and agile
A strongman might be faster than an acrobat , but he won't be more agile
He could literally smash her skull with one hand.
Probably with just his golem cock.
>speedfags
>>321475498
BBC
the only right way is being both fast and strong. Everything else is shit
>>321473580
It would make her a Warframe moderator?
>>321472680
Even if you can
Can't beat the cock
>>321475867
humanity's been top dog for a long time with nothing but massive int and decent endurance
"make fire" and "craft spear" are early game skills and that's enough to beat pretty much anything
>>321476034
What if bears had discovered fire and weapon crafting first?
>>321476027
lmfao
>>321476132
they don't have the int requirement
only ones that do are chimps, dolphins and corvids
tooluser class hella op
>>321475176
wat breasts senpai
>>321476132
They miss the oposable thumbs to make use of them well.
Also they don't fucking need those because they got bear arms.
>>321476215
Corvids are pretty good. Shame they only lust after your delicious eyeball juice and cannot be trusted
>>321472680
why his that slut rubbing her exposed stomach all over Astaroth's cock?
>>321476814
She's in heat.
>>321476654
She's literally meant to be 4'8, him 7'3.
>>321473857
is that a joke?
>>321472680
Both have pros and cons.
The problem with big guys is that they have to knockout opponents rather quickly before they gas out. And their muscle mass slows them down.
While smaller people have more speed and better cardio, they usually don't have the strength in the punches.
It honestly comes down to skill and who can utulize it properly/who the better fighter is.
inb4 Tyson vs Mayweather trolls..
>>321472680
>mfw full AGILITY
>mfw slow strengthfags can't even touch me
>tfwenduranceis the stat that matters most anyway
>>321473857
do you not know how to do math or are you just shitposting
>>321472680
>>321473321
>>321473434
>>321475547
>>321476002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyx2B7OW39QThere are no sub version of this fight
Talim is so cute. She better be in Soul Calibur 6 and not some deviantart OC or a child/student character that replaces her
>>321472680
I wish a Talim would rub her bare tummy and belly button on my massive 5 1/2" monster cock.
>>321477197
You are forgetting one important factor here.
Range
The bigger guy will always have more range.
Good luck fighting someone with already long arms and pole weapon or some shit if you have short arms and a dagger.
>>321477537
Now this is good funposting
>>321472680
>>321472680
Neither. What beats people is stamina. If you can't throw more then a single punch, no matter how powerful it is, you will never win if your opponent can just dodge it.
But if you are someone that has no power behind your punches, it won't matter how many you throw if you get tired before your opponent.
If you can outlast your opponent, you will win, that's all that matters in the end.
>>321472680
In SC2, no
Astaroth a best
>>321476654
I want to give Talim a C-section with my dick!
>>321472680
That picture makes my dick diamonds, and it shouldn't.
>>321477553
You are forgetting another crucial part too.The smaller guy usually is the winner if he get's close enough to his opponent. The problem with longer arms is, yup, range of motion. Guys with longer arms have to pull back more and needs more range/longer time to strike. It's also why people over 6'> have problems with squats/their knees and why 5'9< are usually better at the gym/have better aesthetics.
Like I said, pros and cons to everything, it comes to skills on the individual person. And the winner of a fight can still lose a second chance, many factors also needs to be taken into consideration.
>>321477836
this was pretty much a draw
>>321477836
Oberyn would have won if he wasn't trying to make the mountain admit to raping and murdering his sister
>>321477836
>you will never chain Talim in a basement and rape her daily, slowly breaking her innocence until only a cock-hungry whore remains
>>321477968
That tumblr artstyle ruins it
>>321472680
Do you think she could make him cum like that
>>321472680
If it's 1000 speed vs 1000 strength then speed wins
If it's 50 speed vs 1000 strength strength wins
>>321478114
>InCase
>tumblr
>>321477836
I think him using the shitty Charisma stat lost him the fight through. If used correctly DEX builds work much better due to the dot damage.
>>321477938
This, but replace stamina with magic.
BECAUSE MAGIC IS THE BEST, MELEEFAGS GET OUT
>SPD
>STR
>Not WILL and END
>>321475260
>what is berserk
>>321477836
>All that taunting and angsty "VENGENCE"
I hated him for trying to do that shit. If he saw it and knew, he would have proven his case just by killing that sour-ass, peice of shit.But that would make for a shit story and television
>>321472680
>tfw Sigfried is a manlet
>>321478350
>ice magic lowers movement speed to the point of dodging being nonexistant
>meleefag is an easy target
>>321472680
Power is beaten by speed
And speed is beaten by technique
>>321478114
What the fuck is tumblr artstyle?
>>321478410
Of all the giant anime swords only Zangetsu is wieldable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88MmvSkI1ic
Cloud's sword takes two people to lift, I'm pretty sure Dragonslayer weighs even more.
>>321475749
If there was a war between humans and grizzly bears and our numbers were roughly equal, grizzlies would win. INT a shit
Assuming no/limited guns.
>>321476913
That version of Astaroth is 6'8". The Mass Produced Astaroth is 7'2".
>>321478006
>strike
If you get close to a big guy, he's probably not going to strike you, but grab you.
>>321477236
> "ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH"
Fucking christ.
>>321478903
Trying to grab someone with a short reach weapon is not a smart idea. You would want spacing between the two of you, who the fuck would try to grab someone with a knife even as BJJ professional.
I don't think you know very much about combat and self-defense, and I'm not saying it in a condescending way either. It just sounds like you are grasping for straws.
>>321478783
But the INT difference is exactly what led to us having tools like guns.
It allows us to make use of tools the bears dont have access to.
Saying tools arent allowed is shifting the scenario into the favor of the bears stats.
>>321478728
shiny blush and red noses.
>>321472680
That image is pedo as all hell.
>>321478106
>>321477836
Err, is the whole show like this?
>Not strength and speed
I want to press my dick against her tummy
>>321479525
yea I really don't know what they were thinking with the floating meme text in an hbo show
>>321479538
The guy who posted that he is endurance and willpower is way more accurate.
Sure he has a lot of strength. But the demons were stronger. And sure hes quick agile accurate, the guy he fought on that cliffside was quicker.
But he endured it all. And he just keeps going.
Why
>>321478219
>chicks with dicks
>not tumblr
>>321479525
Without the dumb text, yes
>>321473321
What good are muscular arms if your brain needs your neck intact?
>>321472680
>boner raises alert status every time this pic is seen
>doujin of astaroth wrecking her after that confrontation never ever
>>321472680
Because in armed combat how hard you can punch doesn't matter.
>>321472680
>Does speed defeat strength
If we're talking about fighting games, then yes.
Most big and heavy fighters are slow and easy to combo on.
The only way they win, if they use this
>>321478613
>technique
If the heavy fighter goes in swinging, with out a plan, then they will lose.
>>321479731
Serpico?
Serpico only fights him in areas where Guts' huge fucking sword can't be properly used though, such as in that room with all the pillars.
Really though, Guts would be what happened if you used a Gameshark and filled out max stat codes for everything but Charisma and Intelligence
...maybe luck.
>>321479319
I'm not that guy, and I'm not talking about weapons. That's stupid. You're talking about some guy with a fucking polearm at close range v. some guy with a dagger. Of course the guy without a close range weapon is gimped in close range combat.
The thread is about speed v. strength, not polearms v. daggers.
Technically wouldn't being stronger allow you to swing your sword faster? And being dexterous has nothing to do with your speed?
>>321480058
/thread
>>321480043
Being "slow" isn't a terrible hindrance in itself, it's more that large characters tend to have fewer mobility options (Potemkin and Tager lack dashes, for example) and options in general. Occasionally characters have shit walk speeds but make up for it with strong dashes or teleport dashes.
>>321480201
You're just a bigger target when sharpened metal or fast moving projectiles are involved.
>>321478106
>Paladin casts lay on hands.
>>321480058
>>321480234
>using P:M Ganon
Smash 4 Gamon, has a much harder time, beating C.Falcon, since his Nair can carry Ganon off the stage.
But using this
>>321478613
>technique
Ganon can beat Falcon in a mind game match
>>321472680
Luck is all you need to win all other stats are useless in the face of it luck.
>>321480371
That's what armor is for.
>>321472680
>video games
Majority of the time the quicker character has an advantage
>life
Im sure strength. There is a reason we have weight classes in professional fighting.
>>321480181
>The thread is about speed v. strength, not polearms v. daggers.
I know, I was responding to someone who made a not well thought of claim , that's all. I already gave statements on the Speed versus Strength argument.
>>321480498
>>321480573
It's really funny to watch videos of mismatched weight classes. It usually involves the smaller agile guy getting in a bunch of free hits that do nothing until the big guy hits him once for an instant KO.
>>321479538
Very rare will a person be gifted with both. One such person was Mike Tyson.
>>321480742
>hollywood
That's not how knights would fight. They'd keep the shield up and thrust with the sword. There's no way he'd be able to beat them unarmed in that fashion.
>>321480742
Man. That's some lousy jobbing.
>that point where crusader swings flail and it wraps around sword and he's startled so he hesitates instead of being the one to disarm his foe
what did you pick a fucking flail for in the first place bro...
>>321480742
>all those cuts on direct violence
>Dat shaky cam
>Dem dutch angles
What a shitty scene
>>321480757
Please watch fedor for the opposite of that scenario.
>>321480742
Yeah, this ridiculous Hollywood movie webm totally proved him wrong.
Remember to post a DBZ webm to prove that humans can fly too.
>>321472680
>tfw I want to be a little girl getting fucked by a giant dick
>>321480742
Goddammit
Why does this video make me so angry?
>>321480742
BRUTAL
>>321480916
you do realize things that happen in movies are only supposed to be possible not likely right... right?
>>321480619
Yes, and it was a shit rebuttal, because you presuppose that the small guy can get close to the big pole-wielding motherfucker. You didn't address the range issue at all, you just sidestepped it.
>>321480742
This is such a badly done scene, no wonder people have misconceptions about fighting. Hollywood in general has lied to the vast majority of people, it's sad that young-lings learn from this garbage.
The guy with the rock would never be able to reach the knight. Second, the Knight would never teleport or arch his arm so wide since it leaves him defenseless, and without raising his shield to begin with. That is the number one thing that Knights did.
>>321480916
This guy knows what's up.
Please stop watching movies. They are retarded.
>>321477749
Eroquis' SC stuff is pretty fucking godly.
>>321480742
>Peasant has killed Swadian Knight
>Peasant has killed Swadian Knight
>Peasant has killed Swadian Knight
>>321478481
Kilik too
>>321480757
Sometimes the smaller ones get lucky though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TelQntPJUA0
>>321477968
The best one off character.
>>321480797
Mike Tyson in his prime was a fucking monster. Goddamn Don King and his niggertry.
>>321481313
>auto resolve.webm
>>321481457
I'll probably never be okay with the fact that Zuko didn't end up with her.
>>321472680
Why do you think bullets can kill you? dipshit
>>321480742
>Not blocking the rock and then bashing the guy with the shield
Why even have a shield if you aren't going to hit the other guy with it?
>>321481216
>you presuppose that the small guy can get close to the big pole-wielding motherfucker.
Another person without reading comprehension. I said if, which again, comes down to individual skills and many other factors. Spears are not the ultimate weapons, there were ways to get to someone, and we haven't even touched on bows.
> You didn't address the range issue at all, you just sidestepped it.
Because it's obvious that the ranger will have an advantage which is why spears were AKs of bygone eras.
You aren't very good at this I'm afraid so I will stop right here with you since you keep bringing dumb arguments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJr79WeZmOw
This should clear things up.
Is Gray Fox DEX or STR?
>>321480498
Armor can't cover your entire body.
>>321481513
Yup, godly genetics and trained by Cus, a warrior. He was making Tyson a killer, often telling him to recite "I'm the best" over 100 times a day and gave him the best training. Sadly after he died, it went downhill.
>>321475183
This is what I came here for. Is there a specific tag for this? A name for that type of size difference?
>>321481918
The idea is to cover the most important spots.
>getting into a fight when you're a speedfag
>not retreating and setting up situations where you don't have to fight fair like a real dickbutt
For a high-skill player, yes. Strength can only punish mistakes, but if speed makes none then there's no contest.
>>321481714
is this real
>>321482101
This, only the strong fight fairly.
>>321482000
Tyson also had negro genetics. Not everyone can swing the arms that fast without injuring themselves. I do boxing regularly as exercise.
>>321478415
>But that would make for a shit story and television
That's just because it's all that ASoIaF has going for it.The bulk of magical girl shows are better than Game of Thrones
>>321480120
>for everything but Charisma and Intelligence
Guts is smart as fuck , the same fight you mentioned is a perfect example
>>321482076
It's impossible to cover the armpits and tendons of the back of your knees.
>>321481684
Yes, and that is a presupposition, you monumental retard. You don't even know what that word means, do you?
I like how this started with you claiming that you weren't being condescending, then ended by you walking out of the conversation dismissively, as though you're above it all. But go on, pretend to be a combat expert elsewhere.
>>321479753
fucker InCase was Hentai-Foundry first
>>321477012
>>321477206
>is that a joke?
>>321481865
AGL
>>321482682
>the joke missed you
????
>>321472680
In real life it does 9 times out of 10.
In vidya, strength is better because nerds don't understand that you can't have muscles on your groin, throat, eyes etc
>>321482824
>>321472680
Both are useless without accuracy and timing.
>>321472680
A gun wins.
These things are so easy to use that children can do it.
>>321482406
and its rather hard to hit these spots when you're fighting against an armed and trained opponent, especially if you don't have any armor.
>>321482406
https://www.royalarmouries.org/line-of-kings/line-of-kings-figures-of-the-line/single-object/23
"There is no chink in its protection which completely covers the body."
>>321477236
So stupid. He's only allowed to do that shit because that guy was literally retarded.
>>321482982
Best Tekken and Soul Calibur character
>>321483181
There's no chink until I slam a warhammer roight into that noble's man bloody chest.
>>321482982
Just what the fuck is Yoshimitsu
>>321472680
>>321483369
Ninja Clan Master and half cyborg
>>321483359
Well that's strength, isn't it.
>>321472680
I just came in to say that SCII Talim is best Talim.
>>321483369
A normal dude with one hand cut off, who happens to be a ninja space pirate, apparently.
>>321483359
you wouldn't even be able to pick it up, nerd. don't kid yourself. go play with a wooden stick
What wins over what in this webm?
>>321482406
>what is chainmail
>>321479319
It's not that hard.
EX: Feint + Jab and/or bait knife, follwed by elbow strike to forward take down. Kick their face in.
It all depends on how good either side is, but let's not pretend just because someone has a knife they automatically win. I've actually seen someone with a knife get one-shotted by an unarmed guy. The unarmed fighter wasn't even that good either.
>>321473121
>bloodborne.jpg
>>321483583
Foresight won in this webm. The swordsman was more skilled but the gunman was a step ahead.
That picture is erotic.
>not CHA
>>321483583
If you can easily smack away bullets with a blade, how the hell does any human ever get the drop on you.
>>321473894
This, but most of all, REACH. Reach is way more important and one of the largest reasons for weight class differences.
>>321477836
Retard would've won if his head wasn't so far up his ass.
>>321483891
Came here to cum here and post this
>>321473121
Anyone have the
>I'm sure to win because of my Charisma
edit
>>321473497
what is with her dress? The whole character is aesthetically pleasing but her anatomy is wacky.
What is most important is your dps which accuracy and penetration is the most important factors. How often you hit, and how much damage breeches their defense is what matters. 10 attacks that only 25% go through defenses are not as worrisome as 1 blow that exceeds their defenses by 250%. the big alpha damage blow scares the fast guy, as the next one will kill them etc, so they will play more defensively to try and avoid your blows, allowing you to swing more often, fishing for ht hit.
>>321483369
Cyborg Ninja Master who's also Robin Hood
>>321483763
>It all depends on how good either side is
Which is why I said that it comes down to individual skills. What is it that you guys don't get about this concept? I know this is 4chan and all and people tend to be retards, but please, read next time.
>>321477836
JU KEELED MY SEESTER
>>321484184
It's one of those dresses from England with the floofy butt.
It's matted down by the rain but the floof persists.
>>321483980
Agreed, it's why fighters like Jon Jones mauled people. The ones with reach (and can properly make use of it) can often batter and repulse stockier opponents, a punch to the head is disorienting no matter how strong your chin is. On the flip side reach isn't always a sure win Look at Stefan Struve, fucker doesn't take advantage that he's almost always a near a full foot taller than his opponents.
>>321478113
Stop anon I can only get so erect
>>321483449
>>321483512
>>321484251
I am left with more questions than I started with.
>>321484253
You can read my elbow into the bridge of your nose u cheeky cunt.
>>321483583
bloodborne had a better strategy than kill bill
>>321484443
It's okay. He's Japanese but he talks in alien.
In Soul Calibur he's also Japanese but talks with a scottish accent for some reason.
>>321483369
An Alien Samurai/Ninja
It's extremely unclear.
>>321484207
That only matters for auto-aiming MMO trash.
WoW is dead, let it rot.
>>321483948
By outsmarting you.
>>321484184
those kind of dresses have a sort of scaffolding underneath to make the dress puffy
>>321483359
>implying your peasant ass could even make it to the fucking king
>>321483583
Why does he stare at him for like 15 seconds without doing anything?
I mean if you can cut bullets in half I'm sure you can push him before he thinks of pulling the trigger since he allows you all that time.
>>321484443
He's just a weirdo
>>321484938
looks to be that his sword didn't exactly cut all the way through the other guy's revolver.
perhaps his sword was stuck.like astaroth in talim
>>321472680
In games? Generally. Doesn't matter if you do a shit ton of damage if you never get to hit.
In reality? Oh fuck no. She's going to get grabbed and then broken in half. Maybe if she had a ranged weapon, she'd win.
take note that with weapons, speed actually is more important because force = mass*acceleration, and it's a fuckton easier to swing a lighter object quickly than to swing a heavy object fast enough to match
>>321482189
>is professional wrestling real
>>321484924
>implying I'm a peasant
>>321485765
>is collage wrestling real?
>>321486127
>collage wrestling
Picture arrangement is serious business these days anon.
>>321485306
Yes the sword was stuck.
But he's not the sword. Arms,legs, head, his entire body could've done a lot more in those 15 seconds rather than just wait for death.
In every anime/game where it's speed vs strength, the guy with seepd is always just as strong as the strength guy, so of course they win. THey hit just as hard
But in real fight where the guy is so tiny he can't even hurt the other, pure strength comes out on top. Just one simple grapple and its over
>>321486541
Its a traditional concept in fiction that a samurai is powerless without his sword even if this realistically isn't the case.
>>321483583
What movie?
If we're not talking about shitty math games (aka RPGs) where you can always win no matter how bad you are, speed trumps strength.
This is the common thread in every single skill-based game: toplevel players can do more with speed and agility than they can with HP or damage. The entire Quake metagame is based around who moves around the map the fastest, TF2 is based around scouts and rocketjumping soldiers, Starcraft depends most often on which player is most mobile.
It's just more of a thinking man's stat. 'strength' is for direct, brainless confrontations. Speed can be used any way you want. You can use it to secure resources, hit the enemy where he's weak, etc.
Dex beats str a thousand times over.
>>321473497
puffy [/spoiler]dresses
>>321486110
based bobby b
talim a cute
>>321474260
Oh my word if someone ever punches her in the chest, or accidentally bumps her, she'll probably instantly die. That's terrifying.
>>321486110
>Asoiaf isnt near finished
>We're likely a decade from Martin even considering a Rob's Rebellion book
Suffering
>>321486110
>stubby little one-foot pole, retardedly huge head with needlessly large strike face
The household hammer I have in my utility room would make a better weapon than that piece of shit.
>>321487249
She'll just wear a helmet over her chest, it's not that huge of a deal.
>>321487128
I think we're talking about a boxed in, 20x20 foot arena. 1v1. Man vs man
You'd be crazy to think speed would win in that situation
>>321473857
>>321477012
Pissed off short stacks detected
