What's the difference?
>>321405965
Stylistic choice?
Different names bro
>>321405965
Marketing campaign.
Quality.
oh you play video games
Neither are as edgy as Party Hard
Everything around the concept of shooting humans.
Hotline Miami is creative while Hatred is edgy bullshit designed to appeal to Republicans.
>>321405965
One makes a point about hating people in general and one is just killing Russians really
Tone
Hotline Miami is actually good, for one.
>>321405965
both are shit tbqh
Hotline Miami is way too abstract.
Shooting dogs.
Beating humans and dogs.
Melee weapons.
Tossing melee weapons.
Hatred looks better, but Hotline Miami 2 plays better. (despite the big levels and glass)
>>321405965
Gameplay. Hatred is a slog but Hotline Miami is quick and visceral
Hotline is good while hated is mediocre and forgettable.
>>321405965
>Shoot Gangsters who rape, steal and kill
>Shoot Innocent civilians in malls and Presidential elections
>>321405965
1 has an ugly realistic artsyle. one was made in mspaint. they both suck
In Hatred you kill innocent people.
In Hotline Miami you kill russian gangsters who want you dead.
hotline miami is much slicker, polished, with far better aesthetics and a hugely-better soundtrack. there's more variety, with a higher amount of strategy required for hotline miami. it's got its problems but it's actually a charming game while hatred is literally just bait
>>321405965
Hatred was themed after Columbine shooters.
Hotline Miami was themed after a bad 80's movie.
>>321406074
>Republicans
More like edgy imageboard libertarians
>>321405965
Soundtrack
>>321406074
>2008
>4chan is mostly liberal albeit with racist jokes. most posters were athiest and anti-morality police.
>2015
>4chan is full blown neo-conservative christian crusaders and morality policemen
What the fuck happened?
>>321405965
A fucking sick soundtrack. Oh, and A E S T H E T I C S
>>321405965
Hotline is entertaining and has a readable art style that works in favour of its gameplay instead of against it
>>321406329
Trump happened.
>>321406329
We grew up
>>321405965
>shooting humans
What's the difference
>>321405965
One is fun.
The other everyone stopped caring after it came out.
>>321406329
Pre-2009 Bush and the Republicans were in power and afterwards Obama and the Democrats were in power.
Since 4chan is inherently contrarian, it took the opposite side of the party in power. The pendulum will swing back the other way if the Republicans ever retake the white house, but the way things are looking the party might no longer be a national party in the next decade
>>321406442
This, also the soundtrack is top-tier
>>321406329
>>4chan is full blown neo-conservative christian crusaders and morality policemen
But that's actually wrong, you retarded nigger faggot. Those people you see in any thread on here that discusses censorship? Those are trolls pretending to be socjus faggots. The only board on here full of clowns pretending to be christcucks is /pol/.
>>321406329
>I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. Alternative worldviews frighten me.
Kill yourself my friend.
>>321406610
>Alternative worldviews frighten me
Describes /pol/ perfectly
>>321405965
right is actually a good game
left is just pandering to retards.
Hotline Miami is actually fun and challenging
Hatred is a bore
>>321406538
>Since 4chan is inherently contrarian
Yup.
The center of a shitstorm is its leader, so people with edgy opinions appear to be the operators of the hivemind.
>>321406056
Underrated post
>>321406476
Then why is everyone here born after 1996?
>>321406329
It's a logical backlash to the politically correct era we live in. This doesn't extend to just 4chan, this is a cycle in general that repeats itself. It happens both in politics and personal beliefs, a cycle in which logic and dominance trades places with sensitivity. PC stuff pushes itself as far as it can muster, then a strong rebound of conservative behavior occurs. It happened after the 60's and 70's second wave feminism and hippie stuff with Reagan being the response, it happened again with Bush because of the fear of sand people, and it's going to happen again with Trump of all people because he's the only candidate not sucking liberal cock and he won't let muzzies do to us what they did to the EU.
>>321405965
One is shit and has no level editor , the other one is Hatred
>>321406505
>shooting
amateur
>>321405992
this
Unbiased opinion here
Hotline Miami > Hatred > Powergap > Hotline Miami 2
My only problem with Hatred is that it's a bit too graphically demanding for a top down game, but I'd rather play Hatred than HM2 anyday.
Hatred is actually good
>>321407450
Is party hard good?
>>321405965
Hotline Miami doesn't have non pleading noncombatants. ESRB fucking loses their shit over this it's also stylised and less realistic looking than Hatred
>Civilian targets
>organized crime targets
One of them has story, the other one is just cringe worthy "I hate the world", also the fucking music and the art style are 10/10 in hotline miami
>>321408026
>Hotline Miami doesn't have non pleading noncombatants
Looks like somebody hasn't played the fucking game.
>>321408026
Yes it does, when you play asbiker
>>321406316
Libertarians are just Republicans that like to pretend they're not Republicans.
>>321407297
I was reading a book (about interjections, oddly enough) yesterday which included the phrase “In these days of political correctness…” talking about no longer making jokes that denigrated people for their culture or for the colour of their skin. And I thought, “That’s not actually anything to do with ‘political correctness’. That’s just treating other people with respect.”
Which made me oddly happy. I started imagining a world in which we replaced the phrase “politically correct” wherever we could with “treating other people with respect”, and it made me smile.
You should try it. It’s peculiarly enlightening.
I know what you’re thinking now. You’re thinking “Oh my god, that’s treating other people with respect gone mad!”
>>321408063
>One of them has story, the other one is just cringe worthy "I hate the world"
Hatred isn't really cringeworthy. Not M Portant is an over the top representation of hate.
>It's not who I am underneath but what I do that defines me
Actually I thought Hotline Miami was pretty cringeworthy because it felt like its story was a tryhard attempt at being "cool" and "mysterious" which is what you expect from indie devs.
>>321405965
Colour palette.
>>321408279
the story of hotline miami was deliberately made unimportant by the devs, because stories in video games are apparently lame or some dumb shit
hotline miami 2 reflected this belief especially, unfortunately. all the parts for a good story were there and it was intentionally left incomplete
>>321406318
>game is marketed as death metal of video games
>only death metal track is in credits, everything else is forgettable ambient
>>321408180
Die in a fire.
>>321408180
Treating people with respect is fundamentally different than what modern political correctness is. Modern PC is an egalitarian effort to make people equal, but not in an equal opportunity way that should be striven for, but rather an equality of outcomes way that is impossible without doing serious harm to everything a society runs on. If blacks cannot succeed on their own given every opportunity, for instance, the current regime demands they get special treatment and/or other races get brought down. It is a grave mistake to try and make unequal things equal, and we as people will always be inherently unequal in all things.
One is a creative masterpiece of the modern age, the other is Hotline Miami, which is just fun.
>>321406329
Original 4chan didnt had one, never changing political view. Anons were just saying things that caused the largest amount of butthurt.
>>321406130
>shooting dogs
but you shoot dogs in Hatred too...are you trying to say those pathetic creatures you kill are something more than mere dogs?
>>321408791
>>321408620
tracks from Survival DLC are pretty good, though
https://youtu.be/GzKvJ94r1kk?t=36m50s
Hatred's context for violence does not exist
That makes it boring
>>321408180
>Mudslimes shot up Paris and rape european women
>i know ill treat them with respect that will show them XDDDD
>>321406538
>democrats and republicans are any different
you guys still didn't notice they apply the same politics ?
>>321406329
Counter-culture. With the end of the Bush era and Obama becoming president political correctness became much more of an issue so people started becoming more hardcore conservatives on the site. If neo-Bush (AKA Trump) gets elected expect the site to revert back to edgy liberals and autistic shit like "christ-chan" being laughed off of /pol/.
>>321408736
This
>>321410406
epic pic
>>321406329
>liberal albeit with racist jokes
>implying that is not nazism by todays standarts
>>321410406
One of these two people dindu nuffin. The other IS a dindu nuffin.
>>321405965
shooting russians
>>321406329
>>2008
>implying 2008 wasn't after the project chanology newfags flooded this site and turned it into some liberal bullshit justice crusade
there's people on 4chan RIGHT NOW that think that they are aren't newfags because they got here in 08
pro tip:you will always be a newfag
>>321406329
normies came about and fucked shit up. As long as stupid people take part in things they will always fuck it up by taking it too seriously and turning it in the wrong direction. One liberal ideology, what originally was "fuck censorship" became "lets censor people so we dont hurt the feelings of the stupid and lazy" The freaking conservatives are literally more in line with our beliefs than the liberals are. Probably due to liberals being full of idiots and having fairy tale fantasies.
>>321405965
style
music
speed of gameplay
gameplay mechanics
>>321406056
this
The people in Hotline Miami are not innocent.
MUH EDGE v. MUH 80s
It blows my mind how we're still having the same vidya outrages we had 20 years ago, but it's even more ridiculous nowadays because violent vidya is everyday thing so it's not like Hatred was doing anything groundbreaking with virtual violence like Mortal Kombat did.
>>321411694
>The freaking conservatives are literally more in line with
How about you take your own advice and stop being stupid. Conservatives are not in line with our beliefs, or at least mine and I've been here for a very long time.
Liberals want to import Mexicans and accept Syrian refugees with open arms.
Conservatives want to never let a single immigrant into America illegal or otherwise and get rid of immigrants who have lived here for years.
There is an obvious middle ground. Enforce existing laws, heavily fine people who break these laws and besides the clemency you grant existing illegal immigrants treat it more seriously in the future.
No "main stream" candidate talks about shit like that though because everybody has to be tough (or a cuck if we are talking Bernie Sanders.)
All the ideologies are like this. I don't love people but I don't hate people to the point either where I will go LOL BLACK PEOPLE WHO CARES IF THE LAW ONLY EFFECTS THEM FUCKING NIGGERS
4chan as a culture was simply against the absurdity of the system. Only two things made this site "act," people being really fucking stupid or a random whim to fuck over some entity for fun.
Now this place is literally that annoying red neck who complains about liberals all day and unironically defends a candidate like Donald Trump simply because Hillary Clinton is a cunt.
Don't forget conservatives are still routinely trying to deny people rights based off their personal beliefs and influence policy to accomplish this.
Context.
Style.
Gameplay.
Here's a better question: OP, do you always ask such fucking inhumanely retarded questions?
>>321412343
>Forming a death cult and wanting to adopt children into that death cult is "personal beliefs"
lmao senpai
>>>321411694
>watching that simpsons episode where Kent Brockman swears on TV
>Flanders finds out about it and then conservative media gets all over his ass
>Lisa foams about freedom of speech and expression, and how conservatives are trying to repress those
>conservatives are portrayed as fat, fearmongering morons who want to censor everything they don't like
>tfw I realized that episode was aired almost 10 years ago, and that the roles of liberals and conservatives have completely switched when it comes to freedom of speech
>>321412473
/thread
someone should have posted this before it turned into a /pol/ thread again.
>>321412343
wow your so smart for taking the middle ground between two almost identical parties
>>321412717
Both sides want to censor speech anon, it's just the speech they want to censor is different.
>>321412826
The entire division between the parties goes "for big ticket issues even if we agree on the subject we have to pretend that we are the complete opposite of those evil douchebags," but for some issues there are legitimate divides. Either way American policy is shit which is the point of my post nanashi-san.
>>321412717
>Conservatives supporting freedom of speech
Just because they aren't trying to censor your video games does not make this bullshit true.
>>321405965
hatred has the narrative of the mass shooter and some people don't feel comfortable with that, even though it's totally ok to kill innocents in other games like GTA
>>321412674
Nice cherry picking, faggot.
He is right, though, about 4chan I mean. The difference between now and yesterday is that people on 4chan didn't have and didn't believe in having a common political ideology. Everyone came from different backgrounds and shared their common belief that the system is fucked and acting upon this. They either did it for justice or teh lulz and nothing else.
Then more people came in and as the population grew and like-minded people started associating with each other, cliques started to form, be it forever alone virgins or people with similar political views, groups of these people started to form and they started to make their circlejerk threads, pretending that 4chan is an open place, but rejecting, shaming and aggressively attacking anyone with a different point of view who would come in their public threads.
Then some of these people started claiming this place as their own, pretending like they were first and pretending like they have even an ounce of authority on this website "what happened? it was okay to be a pathetic virgin before, but now the damn normalfags came and ruined everything!" not realizing that the fucking normies have always been there, but since it used to be a huge pool of different opinions, you didn'T notice, you only started to notice when you divided from the cesspool and started circlejerking with your gay fuck buddies about how women are terrible people.
The same shit is happening on every point of view. christfags are making circlejerk threads to run away from anyone who would argue against them, /pol/fags are invading everywhere to force their politics in every single topic and it's no longer a cesspool of opinions and lives, it's just an assembly of groups that like to talk shit about the other groups and stroke each other's dick about how red pilled they are.
>>321412343
>>321413279
It's like you are so fucking up your own ass that you actually believe you're smarter then everyone else. In reality though you're just a fucking idiot that doesn't understand that politics are joke and a popularity contest. With the main goal to make money and not actually do any good. Do you know that any person elected into any Federal office gets continual paychecks until death? I bet you didn't cause you were to busy posting on 4chins in class instead of paying attention.
>>321407961
Its pretty funny, they also claim to be adding steam workshop support
>>321413279
4Chan has always been a circlejerk. You just liked it better when it fit your beliefs.
>>321413636
>4chan was site that rebelled against a broken system
>LEL U JUST THINK UR SMART BET U DONT KNOW POLITIK IS A JOKE STAY ASLEEP SHEEPLE
>>321413636
And now you're projecting, nice.
Know what I think of myself? I'm not an idiot and I can see bullshit, but I don't think I'm particularly smart. I have my weaknesses and I find myself in situations where some people take advantage of those. That's life and that's how you learn to be a less stupid person.
And then you imply that I actually give a shit about politics? Nigga please. Democracy is a fucking lie, but it doesn't change the fact that arguments about politics leak on this website and they come from people who associate with each other and work together to force their point of view on anyone and, as I said, they don't just do it with politics. Go on /r9k/ and try saying that women are human people and see how you're greeted. Go to /tv/ and try to argue that the new Star Wars movie is good and see how you're greeted.
You're not just called a faggot anymore for having a contrarian opinion, you spawn a fucking WAR everytime you voice your opinion on 4chan and you can use the same opinion for years, the exact same fucking shit for years and it will spawn a 400+ reply thread.
>>321413823
Actually, no, I always enjoyed the opportunity to discuss with people who don't agree with me.
>>321414094
>I'm not an idiot
>I don't think I'm particularly smart
hmmm...
Fuck off /pol/.
>>321407614
Lol.
>>321412343
>its totally alright if they broke the law for many years, illegal immigrants can get away with it if they lived here long enough
>law only affects black people
>clemency you grant existing illegal immigrants
lib plz, thats why no one likes you fucks. You ask to enforce existing laws yet at the same time you ask to make exceptions in the area that you have a preference for. That sort of hypocrisy is why people see you as idiots. Illegal immigration has always been fucking illegal for pretty obvious reasons. You don't pay taxes, you leach off of those who have followed the system correctly, and you're capable of bringing in trouble considering you're completely unverified. In the end aspect an illegal brings in more bad things than good yet you try to justify its shit with "but the humanity" along with a sob story of some fucking illegal family. You really expect to hold standards when you're already falling into emotional traps?
>>321414230
Are you for real, son? Not being particularly smarter than the average joe doesn't make you stupid. You're stupid when you repeat mistakes, spouting retarded shit comes from ignorance, but ignorance can be fought, you fight it by reading a fucking book and leaving the basement to interact and learn from other people.
>>321413978
>4Chan a place full of rebels
No it was a place full of edgy teens and pedophiles. I'm not sure why you fags keep treating old 4chan like it was some intellectual bubble of outcasts fighting the "man". >>321414176
>things that never happened
I've been here a long time to man, and back then if you posted a opinion out of the norm you'd get shit posted into oblivion, especially if you mentioned religion in any positive light.
>>321408097
Republicans who are generally atheist and want to say 'nigger' without any backlash. Basically South Park fans.
>>321414368
Ironic post there mate, look where you are right now. If you're gonna preach, don't do it as a hypocrite.
>>321414368
>Not being particularly smarter than the average joe doesn't make you stupid.
yes it does
it means you're as smart as the average joe and the average joe is stupid
>>321414245
>everything in that pic is dead except for Mario and Zelda
the ironing
>>321410406
nigger wasnt in Jumanji tho lmao
Context
>>321410406
I miss robin Williams,
>>321414445
I'm not saying it was different in mood back then, just different in principles. Sure you'd be shitposted to oblivion if you said something everyone disagree with because that's always been a shitposting machine, but back then, at least, we didn't have other boards spilling into each other to try to make it some kind of "new home base". The most that would happen was /b/ would be down for a while and they'd go on other boards to spam desu and shit all over the place.
Now look at fucking /v/ and how much people insist to keep talking about social justice warriors and feminists and e-celebs that don't follow the status quo that we've set here. Nobody fucking needs that shit here!
All I'm saying is that I liked it better when I was called a faggot for liking a game instead of being straight called a fucking traitor for not giving a fucking shit about Anita Sarkeezian and not taking her seriously.
>>321414597
>The average joe is stupid.
Nice to finally meet someone who has interacted with every average joe there is for a long enough time to come to the conclusion that each and everyone of them is a fucking worthless idiot.
Now I wonder who has his head up his own ass.
Context
Apresentation
Aesthetic
Gameplay
Pretty much everything.
>>321405965
Most victims in Hotline Miami were mob mooks
>>321414846
we all do
Gameplay style
One plays like a generic fps in top down mode while the other plays like DOOM in top down mode.
One is pandering to edgelords whereas the other is pandering to art nerds and the OMG80'SISTHEBEST crowd.
>>321405965
Hatred is just edgy bullshit with no real thought put into its design.
Hotline Miami is actually pretty fun and well designed and the game has this sort of meta idea to it "Who the fuck cares about the story in a fast paced action game?"
>>321406329
moot decided to add /pol/ for good despite the fact that /new/ was a cesspool twice before and /pol/ is the exact same garbage.
>>321415652
>everything is pandering
>>321415827
Meant for >>321415712
>>321415980
You fucked up. Can't take it back now.
>>321405965
Style, marketing, and reason it was made.
One is just a game some guys in Sweden wanted to make. So they did and it was good.
The other was made to capitalize on the whole Gamer Gate and SJW bullshit. Marketed as such to everyone. Tried to get a rise out of people. Turned out rather meh because it wasn't a game of passion. It was in it to cash in from moment one.
Also you can't blow up a fucking reactor the second you turn the fucking thing off. Edgy as shit too.
>>321405965
aesthetic, music, and game feel
>>321412826
I choose to not partake in a broken system.
>>321414342
This is some yahoo news comment section shit right here
uh.. hotline miami had a decent soundtrack and was fun, whereas hatred looked retarded?
In HATRED you kill innocent people.
In HOTLINE MIAMI you kill bad guys.
What's so hard to understand?
>>321405965
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>>321417821
>The other was made to capitalize on the whole Gamer Gate and SJW bullshit.
It was already being made I'm pretty sure
But yeah it was disappointing. For some reason I assumed they were gonna be taking a way more mature and artistic approach to the whole "absolute evil simulator" and do some interesting things but it turned out to be Postal-tier
>>321418657
More like cnn news comment section shit before cnn decided to completely remove their comments section.
>>321412343
I don't follow politics, but my impression of Rand Paul is that he's closer to the middle ground you describe.
>>321405965
Instead of going after something big like GTA or Call of Duty they probably went after Hatred because it's an indie game and therefore they probably saw it as a low-hanging fruit. Aside from that factor, SJWs tend to pick random and arbitrary games to bitch about. I mean, if we're just looking at the themes in the game, there are plenty of games that do what Hatred does, yet they chose to complain about Hatred specifically and they acted like it was a new thing and something we've never seen before.
>>321406296
Are you retarded?
