>Dat feel of true discovery and exploration
>Dat atmosphere when exploring planets with the Mako
>Dat comfy feeling when just walking around talking to people
>Dat seamless transition from combat to exploration
>Dat god-tier writing
>Dat god-tier music
Can we talk about how GOAT Mass Effect 1 is?
>>321377230
Sounds like spore to me. That ended well
Are Mass Effect 1 nostalgia goggles this generations Morrowind nostalgia goggles?
>>321377230
Mass Effect 2 was better. Deal with it nerd.
I'll give you the soundtrack though.
>>321377527
Mass Effect 2 is fucking great but ME1 is still my personal favorite. It's just so engrossing andcomfy
>>321377527
Maybe in mechanics but that's it. ME1 would be GOAT if they reworked the combat system.
I loved driving around on planets, taking the vehicle where I could see the level designers didn't want it to go
>>321377507
Morrowind remains the best Elder Scrolls game, unless you were born after the year 2000 in which case go back to the womb. A case can be made for Daggerfall, but Oblivion and Skyrim are objectively terrible games.
I called ME1 my game of the decade.
The sequel was a disappointment but still fun. I couldn't bring myself to ever play 3.
Mass Effect 1 has the best story line of any linear game (really I'm just excluding FO:NV). I will be surprised to see the day that another game matches the absolute perfect pacing and atmosphere that it was able to achieve. Also, the conversations with Wrex and Garrus on the Normandy still is the best written and acted dialogue of any game to date. How they fucking degraded from that level after the 2nd and 3rd game is a travesty.
>>321377230
It's really good in some aspects and really bad in others.
Better than ME2 though, mediocre all the time.
>>321377230
I hate how great games like this turn into watered down third person shoot em ups in their sequels..
WHY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUKiOcV1SSc
We will never get another mass effect game like 1
>>321377527
Where ME1 failed, ME2 improved and vice versa. ME2 major flaw is unnecessary oversimplifcations.
Take ME2's dungeon design and upgrade minigames, combine it with ME1's combat and you have a flawless game.
>>321377507
Played the games in order, hated ME1 always. Replayed them recently, ME1 is now my favorite. Just had to grow out of my faggot phase to realize what a great game it was.
>>321378668
ME1's combat
I dunno man, I played through ME1 about 2 weeks ago. I just cheesed the entire thing with a shotgun and it didn't feel very rewarding. I tried to use the Sniper but they were really fucking wobbly.
>>321378668
>Mass Effect 1 story, writing, voice acting music, and RPG mechanics
>Mass Effect 2 shooter mechanics, map exploration
>Mass Effect 3 production values
It's the only game i need in my life
>>321377230
>feel of exploration
>Literally lands on the same fucking planet every time
Just stop it. The exploration in ME1 was shit.
>>321378948
The sidequest planets were shit, but the actual story-based planets were so fun and interesting to walk around in and explore, unlike ME2 and 3's shooter corridors.
>>321378907
>Mass Effect 3 production values
Perhaps we played different games.
It's the third game in a popular series and there's still obviously cut corners in nearly every scene/mission.
Only reason to touch ME3 is the surprisingly fun multiplayer, and even that has little staying power.
>>321378948
Yeah it's really overblown. The building on each planet was the exact same, even had the same crate placement inside. The bunkers on each planet were the exact same, and so were the mines. They were just copy and pasted assets, and they weren't very fun to fight through the second go around. Not to mention all the planets were just different colors but still the same.
>>321378852
ME1's combat reeks on the surface. It didn't click with me at first, and I hated it. I turned squadmate abilities on auto-cast and just breezed through the game with a shotgun.
But the game shines on higher difficulties, where you really have to watch your ass and use squadmates very carefully or you'll get smashed by even the simplest enemies. I turned off auto-cast squadmates and micro-managed every encounter, and it was a blast. Teammate AI blows in ME2 & 3, but in ME1 they're incredibly responsive. I also didn't use the Mako for combat at all and did everything on foot. Gearing up teammates and preparing your squad according to what enemies you'll be fighting (humanoid or synthetic? too big to ragdoll? long or short range?) became a regular strategy. Had some pretty memorable encounters.
>>321378852
at least ME1 had a crouch button and the game didn't accidentally force you out of cover like in the second. If there were around 16 weapons instead only 4 (due to superficial differences between the weapon categories) the combat of ME1 would be hailed as the best of the series.
>>321377230
>Dat atmosphere when exploring planets with the Mako
Stop reading right there. Everyone rightfully hated how shit "exploring" was. Fuck you fags.
>>321379170
Hell, even with the planets being as bad as they were, the ability to go down to them and explore did a lot of the game's atmosphere.
But building on that would have taken time and effort that Bioware stopped putting forward long ago.
Can't wait to see how much people praise what will surely be half-assed exploration elements in Andromeda.
>>321379187
Three games in and Shepard still doesn't retain his equipped weapon in cutscenes.
>liara's mom is a boss in ME1
>squadmates suggest you bring her along but it's not a necessity
>liara's planet gets fucked up by reapers in ME3
>game forces you to bring her along
>rocket turrets on the EDI moon mission
YOU MUST DIE
>>321379413
I unironically loved the Mako segments.The controls are rough but serviceable, and i just loved the idea of exploring the surface of an alien planet and the feeling of isolation and loneliness from the fact that there's almost nothing in it.
If the sidequest planets were actually different and featured diverse buildings and stuff to do then it would be the best part of the game.
>>321379646
>hearing the rachni song on the moon
>>321379646
>not taking them out on foot
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Decryption#Sabotage
>>321379665
>the one green and blue planet with the fucking huge ass craters on top of the 90 degree mountains
>mineral deposit
>geth armatures
ah, good times
One of the weirdest things about replaying the first game is seeing how toned down the crew members are. Seems like only the LIs get any kind of real characterization beyond their respective tropes. ME1 Tali feels like a completely different character from what she developed into during the second game. Everything about her becomes exaggerated, even her damn accent.
>whole point of ME2 is gathering and developing a crew of badass characters and Jacob
>all of them are just cameos in ME3, with your crew just being the ME1 cast, a stupid fuckbot, and stupid DLC, and some chucklehead who had no real business being there
Lazy cunts.
>>321379665
This, nothing like getting high and buzzed on weed at night and travelling barren landscapes with little hidden secrets, nobody lives there but you still find ocasional body, ruin or base...maybe that's what diving feels like? Fucking around and discovering shit?
>>321379894
I mean inside the bunker, sorry rocket drones, has been a while, but I did love parking the mako on top of colossi and shooting them to death on foot
I miss singularity being broken as shit
>>321379413
>Stop reading right there. Everyone rightfully hated how shit "exploring" was. Fuck you fags.
Yeah, revisionist history strikes again.
You can go back to old ME1 threads in various forums and they're filled with people bitching about that shit. Hell I remember outright threats to boycott the next game if the Mako returned.
>>321379954
>if you romance him, Jacob cucks you and you're locked out of the other potential ME 2 romances
>>321379915
>reach the anomaly in the middle of the mountain craters
>it's some shitty orb thing that gives you four text bubbles worth of flavor text that involves shepard hallucinating about being a cave man or something
>>321380069
People bitched about the inventory being clunky, that doesn't mean people wanted it gone entirely.
>>321377646
If BioWare truly loved us they would come out at next E3 and announce "Hey remember Andromeda? Well fuck that shit, ME1 Remastered on our new Engine"
It would play out exactly like when Nintendo revealed Twilight Princess
>>321380120
no, that's the planet with the monkeys and the posion spores atmosphere
>I remember all of this shit and read the planet descriptions a fuckload of times
>>321380093
That's your punishment for fucking Jacob and you deserve it.
>>321380148
You gotta let it go, man.
We will never have "Mass Effect Trilogy: The Generally Improved/Good Now Edition"
>>321377915
I'm in my late twenties and this post makes me want to scream "TOP KEK"
>>321380007
Singularity + sabotage w/ area spread works wonders. I was a sentinel, and I brought Tali and Kaiden and we just zapped every drone that showed up. Poor little guys could only try and kill us with stern looks.
Ramming colossi and just molesting them with the Mako was much more satisfying then pelting them to death.
>>321380290
>>321380148
>the shooting and mobility of 2 and 3 but the RPG mechanics of 1
I want this so badly. This is the remastered generation, wouldn't put it past them. But then I would have to install Origin, fuck that
>>321380202
The planet descriptions are loaded with cool stuff.
I fondly remember how they took one and turned it into a dumb major plot point in the sequel.
>>321377230
>Dat comfy feeling when just walking around talking to people
I replayed ME1 like a month ago for the first time in a couple years. I think I was at 11-12 hours playtime before I left the Citadel for the first time, and it didn't feel slow, boring or tedious even once. That's an impressive fucking feat. The whole experience definitely reminded me why it's earned a top 5 favorite spot.
>>321380398
And yet 3 still wouldn't be worth playing because they'd be too bizarrely proud to change the plot at all.
>>321378907
>Mass Effect 2 shooter mechanics
No thanks
>map exploration
You mean zero?
>>321380612
>11-12 hours playtime before I left the Citadel for the first time
I think your estimate is a little bit of there buddy
>piss yellow/black bumble bee armor
>pink phoenix pimp gear armor
>random camo armors that were the least camouflaging gear possible
>off white and neon orange armor
Who the fuck was in charge of designing the armor for this game
Anyone do a no romance playthrough?? Makes the game 100% better IMO senpai.
>>321380524
>most of it was written by one guy
>>321380939
Probably the same person who thought that women on space navy warships would wear lacy lingerie
>>321378907
>>321379187
ME3 had the better gameplay, was harder (for the first time the game pushed you into using your powers if you wanted to survive), had more enemy variety and it improved armor/weapons variety compared to ME2. Also, you could make a lot of shit if you pirated the DLC.
>>321381175
>she showers in her underwear
it must have been the same guy who did the sex scenes in DAO
>>321380685
I was going by the save file's timer. I think I left it running once getting called into work for 2 hours so yeah, it may be off a bit. I also went full autism and read every new codex entry as I got them, which probably added another 1-2 hours.
>>321379413
What?, as someone who loves Space Engine i really enjoyed the mako.
So they made a free little DLC to make the ending slightly less terrible and a big final DLC that was nothing but shameless cringe-inducing fanservice as a sort of apology, but still never patched in a replacement for the picture of Tali's face?
ME2 was better overall, however, the innocence of ME1 still hooks me. After like 10 playthroughs it is very tedious to play now unfortunately. ME2 doesn't do that to me and I still enjoy the absolute shit out of it every time I play. Such a shame ME3 didn't merge what made both ME1 and 2 great. Would have been GOTYAYEYFAT.
So yeah you guys should totally discuss and vote. Both true Bioware masterpieces. Both sci fi though different types. Which do you guys think is better: KotOR or ME1?
http://strawpoll.me/6359391
>make a fugly duckfaced ME1 femshep but deal with it
>she becomes a regal goddess in ME2
>ME3 turns her into a flat faced neanderthal
I still have no idea how they managed to fuck up some faces so badly in ME3. Joker looks like an overworked sex offender all of a sudden and Ashley's face goes from generic but not hideous to literal manface.
>>321378907
>Mass Effect 3 production values
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCZFx5Pt-Ng
>>321381719
I prefer the mass effect universe.
Mass Effect was also more adult and kotor is kind of boring in a lot of places. Didn't have the same enjoyment of just walking around talking to people and immersing yourself in the universe like mass effect did. Kotor just feels like DA:O really. Nothing special.
>>321379954
at least your dino bro garrus makes it back.
>>321381926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO6sr9KslDY&ab_channel=MandaloreGaming
>>321381926
I wonder why Kelly got a generic NPC face in the third one.
The importing wasn't too harsh on my femshep, but she was definitely looking better in the first game.
>there will never be a pre-ME1 bounty hunter game where you just dick around on omega/illium and really get into the seedy underworld, culminating with you fucking aria in her club
>>321381926
>>321382441
I remade my female character's face every time because it always fucked it up too much.
>>321382534
Man, there will never even be a ME game where you can play as anything other than a human in the main game.
>>321382534
I don't really want to fuck Aria but I would like to stick my whistle into a few quarians.
>>321382441
>goes from actually really cute to looking like a drug addicted bulldog
Who authorized that shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IitCQCaKi3E&ab_channel=dtaylorutube
>>321382763
Hearing this just makes me think of how Vigil takes 50,000 years telling you about prothean bullshit while Saren is off fucking shit up
Like damn homie some situations call for a degree of concision there ain't no time for an exposition dump right before the climax of the penultimate level.
>>321382757
What's even weirder is that getting with her in 3 can now count as a full romance.
So they recognized that she was a somewhat well-liked character, but didn't give enough of a shit to import her old face even though the games are built on the same engine.
Man, she had one of the best faces in the series.
>>321382007
To be fair that more adult feeling lasted for only the first game. But then it is that game we are talking about.
>>321382945
>Hating on Vigil
Nigga it's the best scene in the game
>>321382969
>a full romance
Don't you just fuck her behind some crates and tell her to change her identity so she doesn't get rekt by Cerberus
How does that count as a full romance
>>321377230
i loved the whole trilogy. i understand why people shat on 3, but i still loved it
>>321383042
>Don't you just fuck her behind some crates
What
I only got a shitty hug
>>321377230
>god-tier writing
You need to read more.
>>321383042
Well, "full" in that it gets the achievement, is effected by where you are with the other romances, and can be seen while Shepard's dying or whatever at the end.
>>321383128
For a game m8
>start a femshep playthrough
>try not to romance liara
>romance liara anyway
Femshep romances suck except for Liara and Traynor. Garrus is alright but he's much better as a bro.
>>321382945
Weren't he also telling that he is holding Saren off at the time? It's also up to you to stay and talk to Vigil or to fuck right off after he tells you what to do.
>no shiala interaction in ME3 after she flirts with you in ME2
>>321377230
Just started a new playthrough a couple days ago.
I don't understand why people say the combat sucks. Sure, it's obviously not as good as ME2 or 3, but it's perfectly acceptable.
The combat was tedious and boring
I loved Mass Effect 1, but was disappointed because I expected a flyable Normandy.
What are some of your thoughts on Star Citizen?
https://youtu.be/69ck049Bg_I
>>321382715
>>321382728
this
I want to play as a quarian and fuck quarians
Is that so much to ask, BioWare?
>>321383565
Almost every cool side character is dropped entirely in the third game.
Shit, Emily Wong was killed in a Twitter feed.
>>321383704
I wonder what quarian armpits taste like haha
>every planet has literally the exact same locations, to the point where they make dragr dungeons look cool and unique
>true discovery and exploration
>>321377230
>>Dat god-tier writing
Stop being ridiculous. The whole starting chunk is pathetic, I get it that they're trying to rush you to the bit where you fly in a spaceship but the whole trial against Saren is on the level of a children's book, and the scene where they crown you Specter is Saturday morning cartoon levels of corny.
>>321383695
Why didn't the reaper on Rannoch just swipe its beam horizontally instead of vertically?
>you are now remembering that Emily Wong was brutally killed offscreen in Cerberus fucking News so Jessica Chobot could be in the game and let you fuck her
>>321384558
And Kal'Reeger was killed in an e-mail because they didn't want to pay Adam Baldwin.
>>321384669
speaking of email, watch out for the asari military command, I hear cereal killers hang out there
>>321384196
I think he meant the detailed fluff, not the plot
>>321384017
Where does all of this information for ME: Andromeda come from? Is it hidden in the games?
>>321377230
The writing is all it had going for it. Mass Effect 1 had fucking terrible gameplay. I almost dropped it so many times because of how unfun it was
It was worth the struggle, but god damn I did not have fun playing it
>>321384961
>I think he only meant the sub-section of writing that was kinda good
This is like those people who say that Danganronpa's characters are well written, because in the tiny optional MISSABLE sections they're slightly less obnoxiously stereotyped.
>tfw using the NG+ duplication glitch to give all squadmates the same set of armor that was OP as fuck (the Red/Black one)
>Trick out the assault rifles so they literally can never overheat even if you hold down the button
>play on Insane mode all day everday
>never even used biotics, played that shit like it was Gears of War for 6 playthroughs
ME1 was a fucking treasure
>>321384196
All of Mass Effect felt like a Saturday morning cartoon and that's fine with me. Shit, could you call Mass Effect a Space Opera?
>Friend bought me ME1 and 2 ~6 months before 3
>Play through 1
>iloveeverythingaboutthis.jpg
>Greatest videogame rush since I was a kid
>ME2
>HOLY FUCK WHAT
>SHEPARD
>oh she's okay
>>Literally rush home from work to play
>SHADOW BORKER MUSIC
>Now I get to wait six months for ME3
>Preorder
>Collector edition
>Play demo
>Huh, well that's pretty weird
>Oh well, must just be because it's the demo
>A lithograph of the motherfucking NORMANDY? FUCK YES
>Ignoring spoilers
>THE TIME IS COME
>Go to store
>Get box
>"Lithograph" is a printed 6x8 card
>WHATEVER, DON'T CARE
>Get home
>PLAY GAME
>HERE WE GO
>REAPERS ATTACK THE EARF
>SHEPARD WE GOTTA STOP EM
>some kid in a vent
>whatever
>STOPPING REAPERS
>LEAVING EARTH :(
>Now with 80% fewer dialogue options
>I guess it's okay?
>YELLING AT KAIDAN
>TIM WHY ARE YOU ON MARS
>Oh secret weapon blueprints, makes sense
>PALAVEN
>TUCHANKA
>Mordin :(
>Kasumi shenanigans
>Oh, the Citadel is at Earth now
>Okay
>TIME TO STOP THE REAPERS
>HOLY SHIT LONDON EVERYTHING IS BURNING
>SPEECH
>FIVE MINUTES
>FEELINGS
>BANSHEES EVERYWHERE
>REACH THE BEAM
>Oh, hello Anderson
>And TIM
>Fancy meeting you here
>You're looking awfully Saren today TIM
>DIALOGUE CHOICES
>Goodbye TIM
>FUCK YES, TIME TO SAVE THE GALAXY
>Oops I fell
>Elevator?
>Glowing... child that blew up.
>Wat.
>What.
>What..
>What??
>Red explosion
>okay.
I'm replaying ME1 for the first time in three years. I'm enjoying it, but it's really hard to stay positive knowing what's at the end of it all.I know this thread isn't about ME3, but it still hurts.
>>321382763
mmmmmmmmmm
>>321387125
>I'm enjoying it, but it's really hard to stay positive knowing what's at the end of it all.
You're better than me, I still can't play any ME game since.
>>321388317
>I remember how much I love the setting and those characters
>wanna replay
>remember that it don't matter, none of this matters
it just left such a taste of piss in my mouth
>>321388317
>>321388735
I think what really helped me the most was establishing an alternative head canon to what was presented. The only way I can deal with the official ending is to just pretend it doesn't exist.
Sad, but there it is.
My alternative ending isn't even the "happy ending" most people seem to want. Shepard still dies, but it's at least in a method more befitting the Commander.
