Finally got around to trying Halo CE (on PC naturally since it's an FPS). Tell me again, aside from no iron sights how is this different from COD and all the other console shooters?
>regen health
>linear levels and a narrow FOV
>slow movement and slow enemies
>weapons are really inaccurate and designed for mindless spraying
>0 recoil, just hold down fire lol. 0 recoil is fine if it wasn't for the two previous points
>unlimited ammo and grenades
>above like 30 meters (which is nothing when aiming with a mouse) enemies don't even shoot at you and some weapons have their bullets disapear mid air
>>321357504
>halo 1 pistol
>inaccurate
>>321357679
Yes, at 30m the spread is like half a meter. This is very inaccurate outside of CoD-style shooters.
What's funny is that if they "fixed" it you could just stand still and casually headshot all enemies before even walking into their attack radius
>>321357504
Halo CE was not created for PC, console FPS meant to be played on console. With a controller. Get fucked.
>>321357504
>Halo CE
>regen health
why don't you just try playing a game before shitposting about it.
also halo 1, 2 and ODST are the only worthwhile halo games.
>>321358289
But that's just a worse experience. Worse controls and framerate doesn't make the game better in any way
>>321358384
>regen health is bad
>but if only 50% of it is regen and called a shield it's good
???
>>321358384
Nope. Reach is great, there is still more people playing Reach than Halo 4 OR Halo 3. If that is not the proof that the game was truly good and have passed the test of time then i don't know what is.
>>321357504
Okay,are your playing on easy because the enemies do shoot at you and are highly accurate on legendary.Ammo does run out so you have to pickup up a different weopon.The smg does have recoil.Spraying in halo will get you nowhere because the covenant have regenerating shields, the most you will kill is a grunt.Narrow Field of Vision?Everything you said is false,the only thing you got right was the linear levels,but that does not mean it will be easy for you because the levels are quite long with many enemies to defeat.
Go play quake or something and fuck off. Oh wait you can't because no cares about those games anymore so you just shitpost instead.
>>321358493
>Worse controls and framerate doesn't make the game better in any way
The game difficulty was balanced for console controller and 30 fps framerate, want to play the game as it was meant to be played? Play it on console.
>>321358218
>0 recoil
>weapons are really inaccurate
lel
>>321358603
Why do you write like a middleschooler? Anyways I played on legendary
>you have to pickup up a different "weopon"
Yeah, and there's 10 of them + grenades everywhere
>The smg does have recoil
and most other things don't
>Spraying in halo will get you nowhere
I beat the three first levels by spraying and spamming the grenade button. Then I got bored
>Narrow Field of Vision?
Yes.
>>321358794
What you're saying is that it was dumbed down for console. It still doesn't become better on console. Would you play a racing game with a keyboard beacuse it's too easy with a controller?
>>321359073
see above and >>321358218
>>321357504
>>regen health
not entirely
>>linear levels and a narrow FOV
half are linear, half aren't.
>>slow movement and slow enemies
It's a console shooter designed for gamepads
>>weapons are really inaccurate and designed for mindless spraying
they're not
>>0 recoil, just hold down fire lol. 0 recoil is fine if it wasn't for the two previous points
so it's fine then
>>unlimited ammo and grenades
what?
>>above like 30 meters (which is nothing when aiming with a mouse) enemies don't even shoot at you and some weapons have their bullets disapear mid air
it's a console shooter, the PC port came later and made shit like that an issue
>>321359317
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqCyPHW0KIw#t=30s
lel
>>321358578
>Reach is great
It's not
The good Halo games are CE, 2, ODST and 5
>>321358578
>Reach is great
AHAHAHAHAHA
>>321359317
>Would you play a racing game with a keyboard beacuse it's too easy with a controller
Actually i would, but only IF that game was made FOR keyboard, because playing it on a controller would then be cheating and no fun, just like when you play Halo on kb&m.
>>321357504
holy shit i think that person OP's picture is trying to make fun of is me. i remember arguing with some fag in some bait thread and i said pretty much that thing.
glad someone took a screenshot and actually is a big enough tool to make another shitty thread like this
It's different to Call of Duty because there's wider, more open levels in single player that are well paced and involve vehicle sections. The multiplayer follows an arena shooter design with everyone spawning with set weapons and being designed around map control and power weapon spawns.
Partial health regen, the two weapon limit and the slower pace were the sacrifices that had to be made for the game to be played on consoles. The PC version you're playing now was never intended to be made by Bungie, as the game was designed to be played on the XBOX from the ground up after they scrapped the original RTS they were making.
>when they announced Halo 3 and the assault rifle was returning i was super hyped
>game comes out and the assault rifle sounds like a weak shit gun and only had a 32 round capacity
>stays dumb sounding with 32 rounds for all future games
Halo series fucking sucks, the only good one was the first and it was evidently a fluke since every other game Bungie has ever made is a 6/10 at best.
>>321359663
>Halo 5
>good
The hipster-retardation levels is off the charts.
>>321360141
>Marathon
>Marathon Duandal
>Marathon Infinty
>Oni
>Myth
>Myth 2
>Halo 2
>Halo ODST
all excellent games
Is there somewhere one can buy a Halo CE key for under 20bucks?
>i didn't play on legendary please rape my face like the faggot op i am
>>321359581
>not entirely
see >>321358493
>It's a console shooter designed for gamepads
So? It's still boring and casual
>they're not
they are, try playing CS or Red Orchestra or any PC shooter like you play halo/cod.
>so it's fine then
No, learn to read.
>what?
see >>321359317
>PC port came later and made shit like that an issue
Getting decent controls is not "making shit an issue". It's fundamentally bad game design
>>321359925
>casual games become fun if you play with oven mittens on your hands
No FPS is made "FOR" a gamepad. They're simply dumbed down enough.
>>321359601
Come back when he's shooting at the far wall.
>>321360347
point out why it isn't good then, because the game I'm playing has tight, well designed maps, a fantastic movement system, balanced weapons and nice graphics that run at a stable 60 fps
protip: the story in Halo was always shit, and 5's story alone doesn't ruin the excellent gameplay
>>321360350
>doom clones
>wannabe GITS
I'LL GIVE YOU THAT HALO 2 WAS POPULAR CAUSE IT HAD XBOX LIVE PLAY BUT IT REALLY WASNT ALL THAT FUN
Games like Halo and WoW (even pre-"decline") used to be mocked endlessly on /v/, but now they're considered nostalgic.
>>321360443
read the thread
>>321360464
>literally moving the goalposts
daily reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL1_ht1EdAU
>>321360682
>reply to 3 guys
>think I magically know which point you're refering to
>>321360759
yeah, it's a console shooter and console shooters need aim assist to work properly
>>321360759
f*cking epic XD
>>321357504
>(on PC naturally since it's an FPS).
Stopped reading right there
As a halo fan, CE get's it's dick sucked way too much, pretty much all of the sequels are better, CE's campaign just has not aged as well as them. The levels are all either repeated corridors, or are so wide open with such low detail density that they feel empty, and the second half of the campaign is basically the first half in reverse.
>regen health
>0 recoil, just hold down fire lol. 0 recoil is fine if it wasn't for the two previous points
>unlimited ammo and grenades
That said I question wether you've even played the game.
>>321359317
Try not holding down the trigger with the pistol.
>>321360141
The AR was shit in CE too, though. Only games where it's decent are in reach (where it's accurate but is doesn't do much damage), 4 (where it's very damaging but can't hit shit, and it's outclassed by other guns anyways), and 5, where it's actually a viable gun by being both accurate and powerful.
I love the franchise by fuck it's full retard with weapon balance outside of 5.
>>321360497
2's story is fantastic, and 5's isn't nearly as bad as people say, they are just buttmad it's not hunt the truth or are retards who actually liked 4 butchering cheif and cortana's characters and were mad that thy actually acted in line with their personalities in 5.
>>321360759
welcome to 15 years ago
aim assist on a PC is shit and unnecessary, aim assist on a console shooter is pretty much fundamental to the game's design
>>321360943
get off /v/
>>321361019
>435 votes
ebin
>>321360890
>need aim assist to work properly
What you're trying to say is "are incredibly casual, takes no skill and all because we want to play with shitty controls for some reason"
>>321361014
>Try not holding down the trigger with the pistol.
I did not. I didn't even notice you could for most of the time. Anyways, it doesn't matter if they made it accurate because >>321358218
>>321361015
see
>>321361110
>>321361110
if they take no skill why arent you going to tournaments?
maybe /r/pcmasterrace is more for you
>wolfenstein 3d, the first fps shooting game, pc exclusive, had aim assist
>doom, the quinessential classic pc fps shooting game, had aim assist
>half life, the pc fps shooting game that put valve on the trail to establishing Steam, had aim assist
aim assist is not some new casuals only meme. Its always been around.
>>321360497
>a fantastic movement system
Halo 5 has the slowest base movement speed out of all Halos, shit like clamber only dumbs down crouch-jump mechanics, controlls are cluttered beyond believe, dedicate a whole button for shitty one meter dash, BRAVO 343! BEST MOVEMENT 10/10
>run at a stable 60 fps
It looks like shit, shitty textures, shitty lighting, HORRENDOUS draw distance and choppy 30 fps animations. And no spit-screen.
BO3 campaign is million times more fun, has a decent mindfuck story, great shooting and movement, at least you can go crazy fast every 10 seconds, also 60 fps with a lot better graphics and split-screen. You just a hipster-fuck.
>>321361332
>why arent you going to tournaments?
because by definition of not taking skill it's a lottery. I have no better chance than anybody else.
That's why console "pros" don't get paid anywhere near PC players
>>321361019
strawpolls for proof are shit. especially when this place is already swarming with casualfags.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJN1VvfHO4M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egrH6V-Dopg
>>321360464
>No FPS is made "FOR" a gamepad. They're simply dumbed down enough.
Now you literally talking out of your ass. Write a letter "Dear Bungie, was Halo and Destiny made with gamepad controls in mind?" and they will say yes.
>>321361110
>implying aiming is the only or even primary measure of skill in first person shooters
>implying that aim assist at any reasonably level actually reducs skill more then negligibly since it effects all players equally and merely evens the playing field so you can aim functionally rather then having it done for you
You could even argue (not that I would) that console shooters take more skill since even with aim assist they are more difficult to aim with with a mouse.
>>321361765
I guarantee you that those people A: suck and B: aren't playing with aim assist.
>>321361359
There are still jumps you need to crouch jump for, and the sprint and thrust mean there are multiple levels of harder skilljumps where you have to do a combination of sprinting, thrusting, and crouching at specific times to make certain jumps.
Also, a slow base movement speed doesn't matter when there are other movement modifiers at play you have available to you. That's like saying sonic is slow because you don't spindash. Halo 5 with, with sprint and thrust, and with the higher time to kill, is the fastest halo to date both in terms of movement and overall game speed.
Also >implying faster automatically makes it better
>>321357504
tbqhwyf, aiming with a controller is harder than using a mouse to aim even with aim assist.
Not saying that's better or a good thing but that image is dumb.
>>321361867
>I guarantee you that those people A: suck and B: aren't playing with aim assist.
you think that has anything to do with what you were talking about?
>>321361972
>casual "go fast but only forward and you can't shoot" buttons is good movement mechanics
Nope, you just eating shit. You can move very fast and shoot at the same time in BO3 and in Titanfall, you can move decently fast and shoot in old Halo games, because they are not catered to idiots who can only process one task at a time.
>>321362334
can you sprint and shoot in bo3? you cant even reload or switch weapons while sprinting in that game
>>321362460
>can you sprint and shoot in bo3?
There's a perk for it.
>you cant even reload or switch weapons while sprinting in that game
But you can
>>321361765
>made with gamepad controls in mind.
"Yes, we dumbed down the game so you could play it comfortably on a gamepad". This still doesn't change the fact that no FPS game is made for a gamepad. It's just in the inherent nature of aiming. There's not a single FPS that doesn't play better with m+kb
>>321361867
>>321362001
Worse ("difficult") controllers have nothing to do with skill. Again, playing a game with oven mittens on is retarded, makes the game worse AND reduces skill even though it's harder.
>>321362334
Are you retarded? Not being able to shoot while thrusting is a LIMITATION. Having to save it and not use it where not bing able to shoot back would hurt you is part of the skill.
It's a trade off.
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>>321362790
You're getting pretty close to the 10 year old in OP's pic
>regen health
Only shields regenerate, you need health kits to restore health.
>linear levels and a narrow FOV
Sure.
>slow movement and slow enemies
Elites aren't slow.
>weapons are really inaccurate and designed for mindless spraying
Only the AR lad.
>0 recoil, just hold down fire lol.
Yes, besides the hold down to fire part, stop using the AR.
>unlimited ammo and grenades
Literal bullshit, pistol is the best gun in the game and it barely lasts a quarter to half a level.
>some weapons have their bullets disapear mid air
Charged plasma pistol, that's about it. You can fucking take people out on the opposite side of the map with a pistol on blood gulch.
What level did you even get up to?
>>321363013
i remember it now, i literally am the person he was quoting, and i was making fun of that tool back then to go back to reddit, just like i am making fun of you. i guarantee i am older than you and i have been playing pc games since doom was on floppies
the difference is, i dont try to fit in here like you do, you literally need to go back to reddit where everyone will play along
>>321362874
>Are you retarded? Not being able to shoot while thrusting is a LIMITATION.
Limitation of what? 343 be like "omg that one meter trust option would totally break are carefully crafted gameplay" Thats fucking bad gamedesign. Halo was always a game where you could accurately shoot while doing anything, how limiting it supposed to make it better? It like making a new Quake where you can't shoot in the air and saying NOW THATS A LIMITATION ATS ALL PART OF THE SKILL, THE SKILL!
>>321357504
FoV is so bad that the PC version is unplayable
>>321363405
>It like making a new Quake where you can't shoot in the air and saying NOW THATS A LIMITATION ATS ALL PART OF THE SKILL, THE SKILL!
No it's not you fucking retard. Analogies are the most flawed fucking arguments in existence, stop using them.
>>321362702
>There's not a single FPS that doesn't play better with m+kb
There is, a whole genre of them, they called console FPS, Halo and TimeSplitters are one of the best ones.
>>321363560
Then beat my analogy, how limiting the already low freedom of movement supposed to make the game better? You actually think that doing so would make the skill gap more wide, instead of compressing it?
>>321363253
see picture again >>321363013
>>321363614
No. I JUST played halo for fucks sake, the aiming was really good with mouse. Just the game around it was dumbed down. If you play with a controller it's still exactly the same game except your aiming is worse.
>>321363946
>then beat my non-argument with an argument
It isn't meant to be used for fucking offensive purposes, it's meant to be used for escapes or to reach higher ground without going the long way.
And in no way is it similar to removing half the fucking y axis from a twitcher shooter.
>>321360682
>literally metaphor
Stop.
>>321364021
>played halo 1 on pc
>trying to argue about recent halos on console
so adorable XD you are just some kid trying to feel superior, its hilarious
>>321364263
>trying to argue about recent halos on console
1. No, I've been talking about CE all along.
2. They're even worse, see >>321360759
3. They still play better with a mouse. Every single FPS does.
>>321363614
>TimeSplitters
oh, fuck off. TS would be so much better if you could aim with a mouse. it's designed head to toe to be played with aim assist, because of the rubberbanding hard aim.
I love TS, but good god, is the aiming frustrating. thank christ for rewind,too bad I'll be dead by the time they're finished.
also top tier girl.
The best way to play halo PC is to get a time machine to go back 10 years and play hacked maps on the demo
Splatoon should be the standard for console shooter controls
>>321364136
Look. Halo 5 has the slowest base movement speed, so slow in fact that strafing in multiplayer firefights is useless, the only option you have now is one meter luck dash, and you can't shoot while doing it. The skill gap is being compressed that way, now instead of very difficult to learn strafing-and-shooting-and-the-same-time-thing to gain an advantage you have the lucky dodge button that any fool can use mindlessly, winning even firefights now less determined by actual skill, and more by random factors.
Then there is clamber that dumbs down crouch-jump mechanics, both crouch-jump and clamber lets you reach higher ledges, but during crouch-jump you don't lose your momentum, you can look in any direction, you can shoot and throw grenades, you can't do that with clamber, to use crouch-jumping you need skill and map knowledge, but any fool can use clamber. And Halo 5 maps are designed not for crouch-jumping, but for clambering, crouching is even mapped to fucking B button by default.
That is the fucking definition of dumbing down.
>>321365498
Oh fuck, I remembered the tank shell hand grenade mod. Where you could climb on walls and shit.
>>321365612
What? I'm not even defending halo 5, or 343. I'm literally talking about the bullshit you said about the fucking thrust. I haven't given a fuck about Halo since Reach lad.
>>321365380
Idiot, the aiming is what makes TS good, it takes practice, but your aim gets gradually better and you play better and thats fun. Pulling off headshot after headshot with mouse would take that away, the game will be shit then, boring shit.
>>321357504
Too be honest anything fps post 2000 probably sucks shit. When fps developers started to remove advanced movement techniques in favor for realism, their games went to shit.
>>321365640
One of my favorites was the pistols-shoot-invisible-rockets map.
It was such a fucking mess with team killing everywhere and mind games because you never really knew where the rockets "were"
>>321366151
No, they became different types of FPS. There's still Tribes and UT, lad. Why don't you go play those instead?
>>321357504
Stopped at Regen health because you're wrong on your first reason so obviously you'll be wrong on the rest. Idk what game you're playing but it's not halo ce if you have health regen
>>321366008
>the aiming is what makes TS good
I have played TS for over a decade, and have never once thought the aiming is what made the TS games good. I literally just got done replaying 2 earlier today and the aiming was by far the most annoying thing.
the varied settings, weapons, cliches, and side arcades is what makes the games so fucking great.
having that rubberband aiming has nothing of skill of practice about it. you mostly rely on the autoaim before hardscoping anyways, so I don't know what the fuck you're going on about saying that it's more satisfying to play when you can't properly control your aiming.
I actually came across a "clan" run by some 50 year old dude named "~lil~ vag", who was apparently on on witness protection. The only people in his clan were underage girls, though most fake.
Used to grief the fuck out of their lobbies.
>>321366740
I hope my life can be as exciting as lil vag's one day
>>321366857
>he would actually tell you to stop hurting his daughters if you killed any of them and kick you
I had a friend in the group that'd convince him to unban me, then I'd change my name and the dumbfuck would never recognise me. He was also too stupid to turn off tanks on blood gulch which made fucking everyone up easier.
>>321366008
>the game will be shit then, boring shit.
Exactly right. Therefore the game shouldn't be dumbed down for gamepad. Remove auto aim, make enemies react faster and so on. The difficulty is the same but now you're playing with better controls which makes the gameplay better
You can't make the argument that a game becomes better when playing with oven mittens on. You just can't.
>>321367052
damn it anon you're really making me miss my FPS days. I haven't played one in over a decade.
Are you playing any now or is it kind of dry on PC?
>>321367351
Unfortunately no, and as far as I know most of the servers are clan only or full of hackers now. I do still have 2 boxed copies but I'm unsure if it's even worth trying to go back.
>>321367602
Oh, I was referring to any FPS not just Halo. I haven't been in the loop in such a long time. CS:GO doesn't really appeal to me and while I don't have anything against the old games I'd love something newer
>>321367798
I've switched tofighting games almost exclusivelyso I'd have no idea. New Unreal Tournament is F2P though, and apparently it's good despite technically being unfinished.
>>321357504
>complaining about autoaim AND inaccurate guns in the same post
ive never said this before on this board, but you need to git gud
>>321367903
No need to spoiler, anon, fighting games are good and you're entitled to your own time.
I think I've run the gambit with everything but settled down into RPGs and roguelikes.
I liked RTSs along with FPSs, but fate seems cruel.
>>321368206
1.
>OP complains the game is too easy
>LOL GIT GUD
2. OP doesn't even mention auto aim
3. Even if he did, your crosshair sticking to things and guns spraying wide like a garden hose even when the cross hair is perfectly on target are two different things
In conclusion: You can't read and/or are retarded
>>321357504
Man your really exaggerating on how much your analyzing every single part of the game.Sure it had flaws but come on you cant compare Call of Duty with Halo,their two completely different games that take place in entirely different worlds with a different take on how they executed the gameplay.Putting these two side by side you will quickly be able to notice the major diffrences between the two and it is impossible for these games to be similar because different creators worked on them.The only similarity they have is the fact that they are first person shooters.I have not played call of duty but I am positive that anyone could badmouth call of duty on every single little flaw they could find just like you did.Halo is still a fun and enjoyable game, sure its not a masterpiece but dont go acting like a fucking feminists with games.
>>321371286
I added an s in feminist that should not be there.
>>321371286
Your writing and English is so horrible I recognize it from earlier
>>321358603
>>321371984
How the hell is my english and writing horrible I am actually writing the words with correct grammer and punctuation, unlike you who abbreviates words your to lazy to write.And did you even get what I said through your skull or did you just not comprehend something so simple.
>>321371984
And also, of course you recognized it because i dont write like a fucken idiot.My writing stands out from all the others.
>>321372591
You're confirming the stereotype that only children play fps on console, especially halo and cod. Nobody is going to take you seriously
This site is 18+ only.
>>321361107
>implying all the posts on /v/ aren't made by the same 435 people
>>321374171
Not to mention that fucking retard haven't ever watched the news or he would know that polls for entire countries with millions of inhabitants usually aim for 1000-3000 responses.
>>321373856
Fuck!Fine I admit I lost.I should really control my anger and the only reason I have so many grammatical errors is because I am writing on mobile,normally I would not write this horrible.Even I'm shocked when looking back at my posts.At least you helped me realize how many mistakes I make when I type.By the way I'm 17.
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>>321374929
>17
>>321376041
What?Is that a bad thing?It's close enough and I'm not the only one.
Anyone use this thing?
If it works great then the PS4 might be interesting.
It's expensive as fuck though.
>>321357504
Well, we could start with the fact that the campaign lasts for more than 20 minutes.
>>321360497
No split screen.
automatically makes it trash
>>321357504
>computer software literally helps you fucking aim, carries some of your bad play
>somehow, this isn't "dumbed down"
I am not even against aim assist, but the mental gymnastics people fucking employ holy shit. Why so insecure over a video game?
