>casualized
>worse music
>fucked the simple story
>most redesigns are shit
>didn't fix the overworld to accommodate 3D
>no Battle Frontier
I guess GameFucks can't develop new Pokemon games for shit, let alone make GOOD remakes like FRLG or HGSS
>>321294527
That game was made by B-Team GameFreak. The good ones are busy making a Pokemon MMORPG for the NX
>>321294527
who are you quoting?
>>321295420
Facts
>>321295375
>>>>>>
The "B-team" also developed Platinum, HGSS and B2W2 while the "A-team" developed DP and BW
>>321294527
One of the only good things to come out of this game
>>321294527
>>casualized
the game was always casual
>>worse music
definitely not
>>fucked the simple story
the story is objectively better
>>most redesigns are shit
if you're a nostalgiafag
>>didn't fix the overworld to accommodate 3D
yes they did.
>>no Battle Frontier
Ruby didn't have a Battle Fronteir you dolt.
>>321295981
>mmm yes keep shitting in my mouth GF please
Why is emerald the best Pokemon game?
>>321295981
/thread
>>321295981
>no Battle Frontier
>Ruby didn't have a Battle Fronteir you dolt.
Neither did Gold and Silver have the Battle Tower but that didn't stopped GF from adding it to HG/SS. That and a whole bunch of stuff from Crystal. Not OP, by the way, I do agree with the other points you said but not having the "improvements" and extras of Emerald makes ORAS automatically shit for me.
>>321294527
I don't think I ever see anyone else mentioning this, but was anyone else bothered by the way the overworld was fragmented? There were a lot more places where there are fades to black between areas that were seamless transitions in the original, like between towns and routes. It made the whole world feel a lot more disjointed.
>>321296218
Battle Frontier, combined storylines and optional double battles when you catch eyes of two trainers at once.
Maybe those faggots could release it on smartphones, they're literally made for them
>>321294527
It was much shorter than the original but it was still fun. They even added a little extra dark story at the end, which was nice.
Gen 3 will always be the best gen.
Gen 5 will always be the worst gen.
>>321294527
HGSS had some shitty remixes too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3GrO6kxJCw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDXXjNk_BRk
>>321297621
You got it twisted man.
I can't believe people try to justify the exclusion of the Battle Frontier.
>we're not going to add it because we don't think enough people will play it
Then don't bother doing a remake if you're just going to half-ass it. Why did Pokémon have to be stuck with the laziest, most incompetent devs at Nintendo?
>>321294527
>casualized
Now anon, I know you felt like the most hardcore gamer in the world when you played gen 3 for the first time at age 6, but that shit has always been casual
>>321294527
>>casualized
True, but you can thank X/Y for that
>>worse music
Opinion
>>fucked the simple story
Not really
>>most redesigns are shit
Opinion
>>didn't fix the overworld to accommodate 3D
GameFreak is incompetent, you should know this by now
>>no Battle Frontier
See above
>>321297621
>Having THIS MUCH shit taste
>>321294527
>ORAS
>a remake of the worst Pokemon games only liked by the toddlers that grew up with it
Im not suprised it turned out to be shit
I don't understand why /vp/ defends this remake so fucking much. It was clearly medicore as fuck but you guys will defend it to your grave.
>>321294527
What are the differences between the versions? Is either one more recommended than the other? I
>emerald has the best gym battles in the series
>reuse the r/s gym leaders instead
I just hope they don't fuck up the gen 4 remake of that ever happens
>>321298520
Pokemon is mediocre as fuck. Same with this game.
>>321294527
You are speaking my language senpai, but
>most redesigns are shit
I actually found most of them pretty charming. The evil teams especially are better than before. Basically the only thing that I didn't mind about the games.
>>321297591
>chikoritagoodtaste
>>321298661
Technically we're most in need of a gen 1 remake since fr/lg are the most outdated games in the series that don't currently have a remake.
>>321298520
/vp/ defends anything that isnt gen 1 or 2. Everytime you bring up RBY its "hurr durr genwunner xD". It's like their mothers all got raped by someone with a Charizard shirt or something.
>>321295375
No, it was rushed out by the A-team in a single year. The B-team made Emerald, FRLG, Platinum, HGSS, and BW2. They're the ones who actually know what the fuck they're doing, and it's obvious they had nothing to do with ORAS.
>>321298520
don't know. Some thing were clearly stupid, like the fact that you got Lati@s for fucking free in the middle of the game, but other than that it seemed decent to me. I enjoyed it far more than XY.
>made possible to switch between 2 bikes directly
>remove that shitty fucking old tower to rayquaza mechanic
>some nice Mega
>cool redesign overall, even if it's subjective
>this fucking theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sX_54hHcEE
all the remakes except fire red and leaf green were unnecessary
>>321297621
>Gen 5 will always be the worst gen
>Gen 3 will always be the best gen
Fucking mongoloid? Fucking mongoloid
>>321298908
That doesn't even sound like a battle theme, it sounds like a battle intro. Moreover, it's not even good.
>>321296854
>Neither did Gold and Silver have the Battle Tower but that didn't stopped GF from adding it to HG/SS.
This shit again? The remakes have always copypasted the battle facilities from the first games of their generation.
>R/S had a Battle Tower
>FR/LG had Trainer Tower (Battle Tower with a name change and slight twist)
>D/P had a Battle Frontier
>HG/SS had a Battle Frontier
>X&Y has a Battle Maison
>ORAS has a Battle Maison
But anyway,
>That and a whole bunch of stuff from Crystal.
This shit is inexcusable. Why they didn't add in Gym leader rematches and some other features from Emerald into ORAS I'll never know.
>>321296854
>being this surprised by GameFreaks incompetence
we're talking about a team thats been using a grid based movement system for two decades
>>321295981
>Ruby didn't have a Battle Frontier you dolt.
But it had battle tents.
>>321297621
>Gen 3 will always be the best gen.
My nigger
>Gen 5 will always be the worst gen.
Gen 6 is worse in every way, even music somehow
>>321298904
That makes no sense, the B-team is the one that makes the remakes. Just admit your precious B-team is shit now too.
Pokemon is fucking shit in general now.
>>321298520
Where the fuck have you been, anon? The shitposting on there has only just started to die down. It's been toxic all year apart from that. Usually, everyday there would be an anti-OR/AS thread.
>>321299208
They admitted the same team that made X and Y made ORAS. This isn't just old news, it's fucking ancient. /vp/ was in an uproar over it a year and half ago.
>>321297621
>gen 5 will always be the worst gen
''HURR DURR WHRE MY BLAZIKEN AT?! DUR WHO NEEDS A GOOD STORY AND SUPERIOR EVERYTHING WHEN YOU CANT CHOOSE CHARIZARD''
>>321299135
Not him, but you'd be wrong. Those was Emerald exclusive and replaced contest halls.
>>321299216
>toxic
>>321298520
Hating ORAS is a meme
Yeah, it's certainly a step-down for remakes, but it's not the worst game they've made.D/Pare inexcusable
>>321299381
This. Those games are the worst in the franchise.Ironically, people on this board want them to get remakes.
>>321299331
Toxic is a good move.
>>321299381
ORAS are literally everything wrong with Pokemon right now embodied.
I've never understood why everyone hates Diamond and Pearl, they're solid games and they always have been. Hating D/P is the real meme.
>Lets make a pokemon game where instead of spending most of your time exploring new routes you explore towns and walk over bridges
>Lets have a huge emphasis on characters because that's what people play pokemon games for, but lets not actually have any interesting characters
>Lets make sure to explain every aspect of the game in excruciating (but not exhaustive) detail, and lets use the characters the player is supposed to like to do this
>Lets not give any of the trainers any more than 4 pokemon since we don't want the player to feel like they're spending all their time battling
>Lets make grinding extra tedious by giving less experience the higher leveled you are relative to the pokemon your battling
>Lets also record the best battle music in the series but have a separate song that plays when you reach low health, which is very frequent occurrence given how the game is balanced
>And finally lets do nothing to address any of the universally loathed aspects of our games such as HMs
I do want fire red remake traded mine for Pikachu edition dont regret
>>321299381
>inexcusable
You do realize they were the first ''modern'' Pokemon games, right? The entire fucking engine got revamped, we got a functioning online system for the first time, touch screen menus, 3D graphics, and a more serious story.
Compare them to HG/SS/Gen 5 and yeah, they're shit, but they delivered in terms of innovation. They were allowed to be 7/10 because they changed so much for the better.
it was shit
>>321299381
>>321299423
Then why is Platinum the best in the franchise?
>>321299474
>I've never understood why everyone hates Diamond and Pearl
le slow game meme because I'm speedrunning it
>>321299474
Because muh 20 FPS muh 2.5D overworld.
Every gen is better than the GBA era, that whole generation was shite.
Does anyone actually like those idolesque contest games? I havent played a pokemon game in years and coming back to see that made me wonder how many of the people even play pokemon for the battles. I mean surely there was something else they could have done with their time and resources than make glorified beauty pagent shit.
>>321299156
Niggers are indeed the only species that enjoy gen 3. Gen 3 literally stopped the Pokemania because the games were so mediocre.
After the first 2 gens appeared on a 8bit handheld people were excited what Gamefreak could do with a more capable system. Everyone was disappointed with those games, but you're probably too young to remember.
>>321299538
>and a more serious story
Laughing On Line
>>321294527
>yep
>nah
>nah, the main campaign story got better
>yep
>nah
>yep
Still a disappointing game, but you're wrong about the soundtrack, campaign e graphics.
>>321299590
It was a good idea executed poorly. The intent was to show that there was more to Pokemon and its world than just having them fight but it just didn't work out in the end, which is why they dropped it.
>>321299474
>they're solid games and they always have been.
More like really slow paced games with slim pickings when it comes to creating a team before postgame.
>inb4 where's your evidence?
The first two towns act as the game's tutorial and the Pokedex (not national dex) doesn't include all the new Pokemon added. I rest my case.
>>321299474
>ORAS are literally everything wrong with Pokemon right now embodied.
I think your problem is with gen 6 as a whole
>I've never understood why everyone hates Diamond and Pearl, they're solid games and they always have been.
Have you actually played D/P? They're awful games. Sinnoh is just lucky that Platinum was made to fix all of their problems.
>>321299560
I didn't say Platinum was bad.
>>321299803
>I WANT TO REPLACE LAND WITH SEA FOR SOME REASON ARGHHH PIRATES!
Up to that point, it had the most dark storyline. If you're going to quote what I said at least follow it up with something intelligent. Don't be a fucktard, anon.
>>321299854
>implying the music wasn't worse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOH3lC3UQRo
Listen to that and try to tell me the music's not worse
>>321294527
ORAS is the only pokemon game I didn't complete because it's so fucking boring.
>people unironically defending d/p
they are literally unplayable
i'm not being hyperbolic, you can't go from a gen 3 pokemon game to d/p and have the patience for it, it's literally impossible
>>321299971
>I WANT TO DESTROY ALL OF SPACE AND TIME BECAUSE REASONS ALSO THERE'S A POKEMON GOD NOW
>>321299538
Whoa! An evil team attempting to use a legendary to take over/threaten the world? That sounds really original compared to R/S/E which.... wait a sec....
>>321300098
It's very rare that a song annoys me in the first 30 seconds but jesus, this takes the case.
Listen to everyone shit about the lack of battle frontier.
Battle frontier was good back when Emerald was released because the GBA had no online capabilities.
Now you can battle with actual people from around the globe whenever you want, why would you care about the return of a shitty mode where you battle crap computer AI all day long.
With references towards the game being casualised, thank fuck. Only autistic spergs would prefer breeding competitive Pokémon in the old games. The new, admittedly more casual breeding mechanics make the game less of a chore, while the actual battle mechanics themselves are largely unchanged.
>>321294527
what do you mean casualized?
its the best pokemon game by far
>>321294527
>>worse music
>>most redesigns are shit
Mate, ORAS is lackluster as a Remake but it does have better musics and good redesigns.
>>321299485
Then when it comes time to make a new game
>Fuck it, we'll just release a romhack of the ones we made last time, no one will care
>>321299692
>Niggers are indeed the only species that enjoy gen 3.
This explains a lot.
>>321300098
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA3mccI1DjY
Listen to this and try to tell me the music it's not good
See anon, I can play this game too. Most of the soundtrack is really good. That's one thing I'll never shit on ORAS and other Pokémon games, except maybe on Gen 5.
this pokemon game is the most balanced and filled with content pokemon game ever
I played all pokemon games and i found this the most complete yet
>>321300098
>He picks one of the only terrible tracks in the game
And here comes the counter argument....
https://youtube.com/watch?v=yTUErAIfNWA
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dA3mccI1DjY
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9sX_54hHcEE
>>321300325
it's good that instead of having access to a massive, well balanced post game i can go online and play against d1cksoak and his team of 6 kyogres
>>321300325
Because the people who are complaining are the ones who are too lazy to go online/don't have the means to play online.
>>321300404
That track's not as good as the original. It's not bad, but it's not AS good.
>>321299312
Name a worse starter than samurot/serperior
>>321300483
>BF
>well balanced
You know all the postgame battle facilities cheat, right?
>>321294527
>>fucked the simple story
>>most redesigns are shit
You're wrong on these. Specially the redesigns.
It was alright, but I had more enjoyable with X/Y than I did with OR/AS,
Maybe because of the whole "dress up" feature.
>>321300482
Team Magma/Aqua battle theme was fucking worse in ORAS
>>321300530
>The starters are bad, so the entire generation is bad!
m8
>>321300589
Shit taste confirmed.
>Sperging out about the improved soundtrack of remade game
>>321300482
Those arent even bad
>>321300570
>defending anorexia May
Off yourself
>>321300482
>Dive theme
Shortened and less charming
>Team Aqua/Magma Leader
Good but not better than the original
>Wally Battle Theme
Literally the BW Route 10 of Gen 6
i.e., Shitty track that everyone loves for no fucking reason.
>>321300129
>>321300176
I've yet to have my point disproven. My point was that Diamond and Pearl had a much more serious storyline. It establishes the lore of the universe, the threat basically threatens reality itself, and the villain is basically insane. You literally can't disprove me on that. Unoriginality aside, it paved the way in terms of what the narrative could pull off. Stop being butthurt.
>>321300530
Not him, but Chespin?
>>321299312
>Playing pokemon games for the story
>Playing any video game for the story
Are you retarded?
>>321300585
or maybe one was new and the one was a remake?
>>321298786
RBY's coming to 3DS with wireless support, no need for remakes anymore.
>>321300585
I didn't.
Even with the dress up, the region was utter fucking shit, the new pokemon weren't good, the gym leaders were the worst in the entire series and the music was subpar. The dressup didn't really do much.
I actually enjoyed ORAS better.
>>321300589
>That drop
>That feeling of rising tension
>Worse than the original version
>>321300628
I'm talking about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdUWmDRU88g
The remix was much worse
>>321294527
>>casualized
>pokemon
>not being the casualest game ever
>>321300681
>and the villain is basically insane
I preferred the D/P version where he was more of an actual autist, but that's just me.
>>321299485
Are you really hating on the best pokémon ever?
>Pokemon
>Canalized
HOW? I don't think I ever wiped out in Ruby
EVER
>>321299934
Newer games dont have it? That's interesting. I havent played pokemon since gen ll and that was kind of a shock, it seemed like such a big chunk of the game i was wondering if i was in the minority for not enjoying what i thought was a big trend the games were doing.
I wonder if there will be anything new to take it's place or if they'll just drop it entirely.
>>321300883
It's not even better than B2W2
>>321300343
>>Fuck it, we'll just release a romhack of the ones we made last time, no one will care
Why is that a problem? That's literally what the "third" versions do. If you don't like B2/W2 for that reason, you should also dislike any previous "third game"
Post yfw Gen 7 is released after the NX launches but is another 3DS game
>>321300676
>Shortened and less charming
It was shortened? By how much?
>Good but not better than the original
That must be your nostalgia kicking in.
>Literally the BW Route 10 of Gen 6
I thought that was this....
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ANamw2Fs6VY
Did they ever give this trash a day and night cycle? I had the original for GBA and it sucked went through it like twice and gave it to a friend for free.
>>321300925
It was removed after Platinum but came back in a neutered form for ORAS.
>>321301017
Day/night cycle has been in since the DS games.
>>321300681
Putting aside the laughable assertion that the end of space in time by the pokemon equivalent of the joker from the dark knight is a good storyline, why would a more serious story be a good thing? Remember these are games about collecting and battling pokemon, the further the away they move from individual human characters with complex motivations the better. The fact that these games are marketed towards children means they'll never go anywhere serious because it will either get too edgy or too boring for the kids.
>>321300947
BW2 were not third games, they were new games. The third game would have been pokemon grey version with some minor plot changes, bw2 are a completely new entry to the series that just happened to reuse the entire previous game's assets
>>321301017
Yes, it has a day and night cycle. It's practically standard at this point.
>>321301017
They did and it looks pretty nice at night time. Soaring too.
>>321301017
It's literally had a day/night cycle since Gen 2 on the Gameboy color. Firered/Leafgreen is the only one since then to not have one (even if Ruby/Sapphire didn't have a proper one).
>>321294527
>>casualized
Pokemon was made for children you sick sperg, it has never been otherwise.
>>321301281
I dont know why people cant seem to grasp that simple truth.
>Crystal still the best 1999
Modern Gamefreak needs to fuck off.
>>321300482
>implying most of the music didn't range from 'not as good as the original' to 'fucking dogshit'
The entire soundtrack is awful, even the ones you posted. The only song that came close to the original was Route 104; they even managed to make Route 120 sound subpar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVJ7bpVoFs8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS3ZCLkKawY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oomNtwagWYk
The saddest part is some of the worst offenders were my favorite tracks. I'll never forgive them for what they did to Route 113.
>>321301434
And they know it too, why else would Suicune be in Pokken?
>>321301405
I think it's more that the main demographic of people who actually buy the games has only ever gotten older yet the games get dumbed down.
Nobody's saying to not make it appealing for children but that isn't mutually exclusive with making it appealing to the older audience it has too.
>>321301502
Why didn't you post Route 120, anon?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MfmwoGsi5gk
I think it sounds_____OK.
i plan on playing all the pokemon games. Should i stick with the originals or go for the remakes?
>>321301647
I didn't post it because it's not bad, it's just incredibly disappointing.
>>321300713
Maybe.
>>321300780
They were alright in general anon.
>>321301281
platinum provided an alright challenge at times
gen 5 had a ton of shit that required you to git gud
stop pretending the game have always been as brain dead easy as they are now
>>321301696
FR/LG > RBY
HG/SS > GSC
Emerald > ORAS
>>321301696
Remakes except ORAS
RBY are dated garbage and so are GSC
>>321301637
>yet the games get dumbed down
In what way? They started out as games for children and that's still what they are now.
>>321301696
Platinum
HG/SS
BW
BW2
XY
ORAS
in that order. All the remakes are better than the originals. Only nostalgiafags will complain about this.
>>321294527
Like every other 3ds game
let talk about the only song that is actually better than the original by far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA3mccI1DjY
>>321301647
the shit sounds like fucking white noise
its like they just put it through a computer program that turned all the notes into orchestral sounding notes
>>321301859
>ORAS better than Emerald
fuck off.
>>321301696
>Should i stick with the originals or go for the remakes?
If you insist on playing ALL the games, then play both. If you want to play one from each generation, then I'd say originalsand then their respective remakes if you liked them.
>>321301405
Alright if you don't like the casual buzzword, let's change it up:
Gamefreak needs to stop punching down to children. Kids being dumber today only becomes worse when you try to accommodate for that.
Reminder that there is a man who has dedicated more time to shitposting about ORAS than the slugfucker has shitposted about Goodra.
>>321301696
Follow this and you'll be fine.
>>321299485
>one minor annoyance
>one blatant lie
>the rest are problems that apply to the entire franchise
E B I N
B
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>>321301873
Been posted twice already, it's still not as good.Grunt battle theme was always better than the leader battle theme anyways and it was predictably mediocre in ORAS
>>321301931
It's better. Complain all you want, Battle frontier is not worth it for all that is wrong with that game.
>/v/: everything new is bad
>/vp/: everything new is good
Will 4chan ever not work in extremes?
>>321299590
I've only ever used the movie one in BW2 and it was pretty cool, but I doubt anybody buys the games exclusively for that
>>321301972
>no gen 5
>recommending gen 6
>>321301859
>ORAS better than Emerald
Maybe if you don't like fun
>>321302085
>/v/ and /vp/ are one person
retard
>>321302085
even /vp/ isn't that fond of gen 6 mate
>>321302152
>/vp/ is one person
>>321302080
Nice meme
ORAS is fucking trash with no post-game contest.
Battle Frontier is the ultimate Pokemon challenge, but you're probably one of those filthy mobile generation casuals who don't care about it, which is the reason why they didn't put the thing in ORAS in the first place.
>>321301972
Oh sweet christ no
>>321302080
other than the physical/special split there is not a single reason to play ORAS over emerald
>>321302216
Are you seriously implying /vp/ isn't a literal hivemind
>>321301960
How have they been punching down to kids anymore compared to the earlier games?
>>321300530
The gen 2 starters, only hipster contrarians like their bland asses
>>321302305
They dumbed down ORAS despite RSE being kids games in the first place, for starters
>>321302234
>ORAS
>no post-game contest
An even better meme? Never thought I'd see the day.
>>321300667
everyone else was objectively better though, the gym leaders and magma/aqua specially
>>321302470
>maison literally copy pasted from XY
>catching legendaries
>...
you will not win shitposter.
in ten years people will not post >>>>>>> ORAS at the end of their pokemon game opinion list.
you fucking failed and you've wasted most of past two years of your life on this.
>>321297621
2 > 3 > 4 > 1 > 5 > 6
3 and 4 are at their spots on the list soley because of their remakes.
>>321299692
But im a nigger who enjoys gen 4&5 more.
Feels abnormal.
>>321294527
>>worse music
You Hoennbabies are fucking defective.
>there are people that deny that the games are being dumbed down to a stupid extent
the pseudo 3d shit needs to be dropped. it doesn't look great at all, and it makes the game lag.
>>321302370
How was it dumbed down compared to RSE?
>>321302758
>one move
>>321295981
Someone post the interview where they say they made it for the phone audience
>>321295375
>Pokemon MMORPG
Why do people want this?
>>321302864
Nah GF can't optimise well.
Considering all the other games which run on 3ds and seem more taxing, they don't lag or look as jaggy as Pokemon.
>>321297591
Oh wow.
You mean, like the single biggest project Pokemon has ever worked on, launching next year on smartphones?
>>321302758
As long as trainers carry around less than at least 5 pokemon 99% of the time, it will always be for literal retard children.
>>321302868
They tell you where to go every time you reach a new route, the trainers are easier, the exp share is fucking overpowered, they teleport you to where you need to go, they modified certain areas so you literally can't get into them until later in the game, and you get a legendary for free halfway through the game.
I don't know about you but I sure as hell don't like to be railroaded along one single incredibly easy path when I'm playing a game.
>>321294527
>shitting on pokemon designs
a reminder to get a load of this and be grateful for what you have
>>321295375
this B-team meme needs to end
>>321295672
Kinda like how Disney's A team made Pocahontas while their B team was kept busy with some little insignificant project called the Lion King
>>321303871
Are you going to shitpost these random pics everytime?
>>321302594
See >>321299095
Also, postgame wise there's more than just catching legendaries.
>Contests
>Building your own secret base
>Battle Spot
>Delta Episode
>Mauville Food Court
>>321303746
You make it sound like figuring out where to go in the games was ever difficult.
>>321304024
>not postgame
>not postgame
>not postgame
>falls under catching legendaries
>not postgame
>ruby and sapphire were shit so it's okay that oras was shit!
>>321304216
It wasn't, that's the issue. They made it impossible to go the wrong way when it was already obvious where to go.
>>321303871
Reminder that Pokemon is dead compared to Yokai Watch in Japan.
>>321304608
That's nice.
>>321304230
>It's not locked by E4, so it doesn't exist!
>>321304441
Pretty much nothing has changed if it was always easy. They can only stand to gain by helping the kids who ever did get lost.
>>321304608
How do they even read all that fucking text? It's all warped and fucking everywhere.
>>321294527
I thought it was fun.
>>321297621
>realizes gen 5 is shit
>defends ORAS
fucking how?
>>321295420
Are you retarded?
New Archie and Maxie are great
>>321303098
>People want a Pokemon MMO
>You can already battle and trade online in Gen VI
>There's even leaderboards and event competitions
>Everyone hates Gen VI
>>321305427
>Gen 6 even comparable to a full blown Pokemon MMO
(you)
>worse music
I'm a Gen III fanboy but the music was god-tier.
>>321305507
Name five things a "full blown MMO" could offer that doesn't already exist.
>>321294527
I'll bite
>casualized
Only if you turned on EXP Share like a cheeky cunt.
>worse music
Depends. Some music is better in ORAS, some are better in the original.
>fucked the simple story
Not really. Any added story wasn't as terribly invasive as X/Y
>most redesigns are shit
Which ones?
>didn't fix the overworld to accommodate 3D
I actually don't know what you mean by this. Mind elaborating?
>no Battle Frontier
Only legit complaint that I share
ORAS is still probably the best recent Pokemon game.
>>321305702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIn8_Q27WFY
Why did she steal Layton's battle theme?
I only beat Gen 1 and jumped into X. Was that a bad idea?
>casualized
Are we really gonna sit here and pretend they aren't all casual as fuck?
>>321305889
It's fitting for her considering she's a Loremaster.
Anyway, the best remakes are HG/SS. OR/AS did a good job but can't top HG/SS at all.
>>321302985
Do it yourself you lazy nigger
>>321305895
>skipped all the good shit and jumped between the 2 worst generations
nah its fine mate
>>321299474
>implying that doesn't go to X/Y
ORAS actually fixed a lot of X/Y's issues
Also, D/P is pretty shit, but Platinum fixes a lot of Gen4's issues so they're usually treated differently
>>321306105
>ayylium eyes more realistic than actual eyes with irises
Stopped reading there.
>>321301972
I'd honestly say play OR/AS and Emerald together if you have the endurance. They're two great experiences that each have their strengths and weaknesses to a point that choosing one is a bit hard
>don't put battle frontier in
>but make a frontier brain music remix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7ru_eeOeL8
>>321306105
>Vulpix, jolteon and flareon having realistic eyes even though they don't
>Caterpie just being a normal caterpillar being good
>Keeps saying detailed fur even though none of it is
I know it's bait but the fact that some people believe this crap is weird
>>321299208
>>321299293
At the end of the day, Game Freak is shit. I have never seen a more incompetent developer actually be successful.
Whether its bugs, difficulty, or game mechanic balance: Game Freak fucking SUCKS.
>>321295981
>Ruby didn't have a Battle Fronteir you dolt.
yeah, I mean, we went through a GBA cartridge with a 2 MB memory to a 3DS cartridge with 8 GB of memory, how could we ever have more content right?
>>321306006
>that face at 0:18
>>321306105
>eevelutions
>canine
well, as if everything else in this wasn't the stupidest shit ever, that really takes the cake for as the dumbest thing i've ever heard
hardcore pokefaggot here
hgss was a masterpiece while omega ruby/sapphire was a rushed piece of shit.
it is the embodiment of modern game design (1 year dev cycle while only doing the bare minimum/butchering content/absolutely no challenge compared to previous entry)
>>321306557
>nostalgiafags bitch about no R/S/E remakes
>finally fucking get them
>still fucking bitching
>>321306647
Because they fucking sucked, anon. No one got what they wanted.
>>321306610
Someone finally gets it
>>321295420
Quotations marks already exsist and are universally accepted, so people tend to use those for quotes. Enjoy your first day on 4chan tho :^)
>>321306834
Except they're actually quite good. The fact that it's gen 3 but with the physical special split that was created in gen 4 already makes it better then the original gen 3.
>>321306647
>want something
>get it but it sucks
>criticize it
>WOOOW YOU FUCKING ENTITLED GAMERS JUST BE GLAD THEY GAVE YOU WHAT YOU WANTED, WHO CARES ABOUT THE QUALITY
At least ORAS is better than FR/LG, where you couldn't even use any Pokemon that weren't Gen 1 until after you beat the game, the new stuff was 99% after you beat the game, and things like the Breeding Daycare were in extremely inconvenient places.
>>321306834
Just like the originals, then
>>321306834
I'm an Emeraldfag and it's almost everything I wanted in a remake. Except for Battle Frontier
>>321306982
>physical special split that was created in gen 4
What?
>>321306834
Gen 3 was never good to begin with. they took a shit game, remade it into a shitty remake, tried adding new shit to make it less shitty,and people bitched. what a shock
>>321306982
No, they're really not. You don't know what you're talking about anon. All the problems for the most part have been listed so I suggest you actually read the thread and try to counter those statements before you make a shitty as fuck blanket statement of your own.
>Botched difficulty, even easier than X/Y. ORAS is to date the easiest pokemon game
>Fucked overworld, doesn't fit with the new engine
>Certain areas are completely fucked over, like Dewford cave requiring the Bike to capture pokemon like Abra, Arron, Mawile.
>Fairy typing was created to balance Dragon and to a lesser extent fighting, ended up just creating a new Dragon type. Fire and Poison are only marginally better, Ice still sucks and now Dark is even worse than it was before
>Music is ruined, doesn't even give you the option to use old tunes like HGSS did
You "M-MUH PHYSICAL/SPECIAL SPLIT!" retards never cease to amaze me. Yeah, that's fucking great, but you're still sticking your head in the sand about all the other problems.
>>321307280
The one that makes it so that not all Fire attacks are Special and not all Fighting attacks are Physical and such. That started in Diamond and Pearl.
>>321305380
>dumbass glasses for no reason
>>321307084
I don't believe you. How could it be everything you wanted in a remake when its piss-easy and lacks the best thing about Emerald?
>>321294527
The only reason this game exists is because Nintendo knew they could make money by reselling an old to stupid Pokemon fans and little kids who were too young to be remade. Unlike FR and GS, this did not need to be remade in the slightest, and Gamefreak knew this and put no work into it. The next Pokemon should be at least at the level of quality of XY, probably better if they spend more time on it, as XY was pretty clearly rushed.
>>321307451
>Music worse
Naw
Also every single pokemon game is easy as hell. Not one of them is challenging at all.
>>321307554
But they provide that air that says he's so suave and serious and mysterious.
>>321307280
>slowpoke
Gen 4 split attacks between Physical and Special based on the moves themselves, not on their type. Before it was
All Normal-type attacks were Physical
All Water-type attacks were Special
All Grass-type attacks were Special
All Rock-type attacks were Physical
etc etc. Gen 4 changed it so that the move itself is Physical or Special, which also made a LOT of Pokemon a hell of a lot better. Gyarados finally got Physical Water STAB, Feraligatr could actually use most of the moves it learned now that Crunch,
Ice Punch, and some others became Physical, special-based Normal-types got Special Normal-type moves, etc.
>>321307695
No shit, but they keep making them easier and easier without any real justification.
Game Freak is a shit developer. Every Pokemon game has a slew of issues.
>>321307621
It's really not piss-easy. I felt it was just right because I didn't feel the need to grind in a Pokemon game.
Also, I said it's ALMOST everything I wanted
>>321307725
It's pretty amazing that it took until Gen 4 to happen.
>>321294527
I personally think they shouldn't have made made a Ruby and Sapphire reamke.
If they really wanted to make a Hoenn game they should have just made a sequel, as they could have added in new things without fucking up the originals.Also no asspull about alternate universes to explain why Mega Pokemon are around.
>>321307725
I kinda miss special Crunch
>>321307872
Seriously, but I love it. Some Pokemon got a bit jypped by it, like Alakazam and Gardevoir losing the Elemental Punches, but they at least got Special Shadow Ball and the Special Fighting-type Focus Blast to play with.
>>321307695
Yeah but that's the point. If the games are already easy, why make them even easier?
>>321301765
>you will never take Togekiss' Grass Knot
>>321305889
>Music uses accordion and/or violin
>"Hey, this sounds like they took it from Professor Layton!"
Every time.
I really like that legendaries are starting to get more specific themes
>>321306006
And she's a fucking punk bitch because you have MEGA FUCKING RAYQUAZA, WHO IS SINGLEHANDEDLY THE MOST FUCKING BROKEN RETARDED POWERFUL POKEMON EVER.
XY and ORAS are fucking trash with a lot of downsides and incredibly few upsides. Mega's literally killed the franchise, making it even more of a pandering popularity contest than it already was.
>>321308652
>Still no Skarmory Mega
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiDgi4BN7aE
Why are the Regis objectively the best legendaries?
Should I just download and play Crystal or play through HeartGold/Soul Silver, /v/? Is there a way to get Alakazam in emulated HG/SS?
So far the villaians have been
>Gang members
>Pirates
>Weird dinosaur cosplayers
>Space cultists
>Knights
>Pirates again
>And fashionable nazis
What's next?
The main story is objectively better with more likable characters and the evil team being less retarded, however Delta Episode is retarded as shit and one of the worst things to happen to Pokemon.
>>321295981
>the game was always casual
ORAS is the most unfront casual Pokemon game to date, even including Brendan/May date scene to try and bring in the same crowd FE Elitists cry about, except its fictional 10 year olds
>definitely not
Music is better in places and worse in others, perfectly acceptable
>the story is objectively better
No its not, its the exact same story with a bunch of extra fluff added. The fluff does not add anything substantial and even frankly takes away from any credibility the game had of taking the story/stakes seriously
>if you're a nostalgiafag
Most of the redesigns were a welcome improvement
>yes they did.
Overworld looks fine to me as well
>Ruby didn't have a Battle Fronteir you dolt.
And neither did Silver or Gold but that didn't stop GF from bringing over the Platinum Frontier into HGSS. The only reason the Frontier is not in ORAS is because they're saving it for the new mainline game or they're lazy, both options are bad workmanship
>>321309260
What's so bad about Delta episode?
I don't even like the battle frontier and I think it's kind of weird it's not there since it's kind of a staple now. That's the only real major flaw that can't be applied to every pokemon though.
>>321308831
>No Typhlosion Mega
>Charizard and Mewtwo get two
>>321309315
You fucking memers need to stop saying that all Pokemon protags are 10, it hasn't been that way since DPPt, arguably RSE.
>>321300517
Not him, but I thought that too until I got 13 seconds in.
Then it gets mad.
>>321306006
God damn, why does it look like a fucking PS1 game?
>>321309658
Because it's on a handheld?
>>321309658
The 3DS is about as powerful as one. Remember that the screen is lower resolution than Crash Bandicoot.
>>321309468
Introduced multiple timeline fanwankery bullshit, centered on an annoying unlikable character, neutered one of the most memorable RSE dungeons, ruined the pretty good bookends they had at the end of the maingame, and while this isn't the fault of Delta Episode itself the big climax of it was spoiled by official material before the game was even out making it very underwhelming
