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I want to play as a jedi. Which Jedi knight game is the best
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I want to play as a jedi.

Which Jedi knight game is the best in the series?
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>>321173554
get all the games
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>>321173554
Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast is the best IMO, it has the authentic feeling of the old trilogy.

Jedi Academy is ok if you like flashy jedi powers and lightsaber moves.

Dark Forces 2 - Jedi Knight (the first in series) also has some pretty interesting maps, but it's quite old so only play it if you are a hardcore nostalgiafag.
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>>321173647
I want to try one game first before buying them all.

>>321173693
Thanks for the advice
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>>321173554
Outcast
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>>321173554

JK2 and JKA are both good.

JK2 is the classic feel and the best in my opinion.

JKA is about the same, but Rosh pls go. JKA also has the MBII mod multiplayer server.

Or at least it's probably still there. It was about a year ago.
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>>321173863
Outcast is great, but be forewarned that you don't even get your lightsaber until about six levels in and until then the game is mostly just a Star Wars themed Quake engine FPS. A good one, mind you.
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Thanks bros
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This one had the best story.
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>>321173863

>I want to try one game first before buying them all.

Outcast and Academy are $3 each, while there is a bundle for JK1+expansion, Outcast, and Acadamy for $6.

Just pirate it if you want to try it, and if you like it get them all, the deal lasts until like Jan 4 right?
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>>321174740

Oh, it even has the original DF too, just for shits and gigs, didn't see that before.
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>>321174740
Yeah I'll just buy them all, $6 isnt much.
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>>321173554

Dark forces 1: doom style game, mouse movement feels clunky toda.y

Jedi knight: dark forces 2: GOTY. Made for PC. Perfect mouse control. You can snipe people at a mile away with the starter gun blaster if you aim right. The stormtrooper blaster rifle has a big radius and feels bad to shoot. Saber duels are kinda bad.

Jedi knight: dark forces 2: misteries of the sith expansion. Another GOTY. Stormtrooper rifle has been fixed. You play as a girl, not with kyle, bit of let down but the best gameplay

Jedi knight: Jedi outcast: SHIT single player. Was made for the console, so all gun mechanics are awful and clunky. Boring as hell single player

Jedi knight: jedi academy. Clunky gun controls like the previous one, but the game was designed for you to play with the saber on single player. Finished SP campaign 6 or 7 times, extremely fun. Multiplayer has a differnet engine, where the guns dont suck to aim, feels like an actual PC game.
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>>321173693

Don't listen to this console casual

You value gameplay and controls before story and muh atmosphere? Go with this: >>321174878
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>>321174878
Thanks for all that, I guess I'll start playing jedi academy first, looks pretty fun
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>>321175212
Download the Movie Battles mods and some good maps
My favorite is Blueice Twilight, Blueice Nightfall, Jurassic Park, Matrix Reloaded v4 and Sith Council v3
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>>321175212
Jedi academy is one of the best games ever made in my opinon. Every level there is a new mechanic, something new. Saber duels are fucking excellent.

There's also a cheat code for you to unlock any saber style at level 1, for when you replay the game. I like staff best, so on all my reruns I cheated to start with staff.

Mysteries of the sith is also excellent if you like the gun mechanics and older pc games with no hand holding, but the saber itself is pretty simplistic, unlike jedi academy where there are thousands of moves and tricks to learn so you get better at saber duels

The skill ceiling of saber duel in jedi academy is huge, you can get so good at it that even good people won't land 1 hit on you
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>>321174878
>underage poster who doesn't know what he's talking about
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>>321175760
>no Midgar v3
>no Jedi Council GCX
>no Resident Evil - Mansion
>no Sith J Cull maps
>no Swoop Racing map

Shit tier list.
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are these new rereleases on steam/gog good?

I think I'll try dark forces 2, in a mood for some 3rd person gaem
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>>321174656
too bad the steam version is broken on win 10
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Am I the only one who likes how clunky the lightsaber fighting system is? There's just something so raw about it, it fits to the tone of the game.
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>>321176660

>win 10

I hope you step on a Lego.
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>>321176796
guess I better plug my old win98 back in

I wonder if steam runs on it
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>>321176660
>meme 10
lol
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>>321176790

I like Outcast best, even though it lacks double bladed lightsabers.

>>321176827

Unless you installed Windows 10 for job related reasons, you're a fucking moron.

Now get Win7 and get DF2 + MoS from GOG.
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>>321176873
didn't work on 8 either to be fair
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>>321176942
>meme 8
lmao fampai
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>>321176932
but MotS is not on GOG for some bizarre reason, I checked
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>>321175879
>underage
>played all the games
>his only argument is I'm underage, instead of adressing the issues

ok
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>>321176998

Because it comes together with Dark Forces 2, you stupid cunt.
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>>321176790
I do

blasters bore the shit out of me tho
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>>321177091
welp I'm buying then.

then I'll get my win98 with voodoo 2 back on, maybe with a new HDD if I can find an IDE one around
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>>321173554
Jedi Outcast
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>>321176660
It has been confirmed that sniffing software that windows 10 sends a screenshot of your dekstop every few seconds to the Microsoft HQ.

I am not joking. Search on youtube.

Enjoy your no privacy and bandwidth waste
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>>321176932
this

it's the best one
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>>321177214
>a screenshot of your dekstop

good thing I don't keep my porn on my desktop then
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>>321177226
Arguments motherfocker, do you speak it?

Why is outcast better than academy?
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>>321174878
Level design of Jedi Outcast is way better than level design in any of the others.
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>>321177276
a screenshot of whatever you are viewing on your screen at the moment
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>>321176932
I do love myself some g_saberrealisticcombat.
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>>321177318
jedi academy was, sadly, rushed and incomplete.

It can be seen from the vast amount of unfinished data in the game files, you might not know it but there's a fully functional x-wing in the code that can be spawned with the console
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>>321177326
how so?

Dark forces 2 had huge maps, thanks to cheaper older graphics.

Jedi academy has different gimmicks for every level, that are actually fun. Levels on top of trains, levels with sand creatures, every level feels and plays different.

How is Outcast's level design any better?
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Academy's the only one I've played and it's one of my all time favourite games
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Bear Force II
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>>321177398
>you might not know it

I ran lugormod servers, where people could fly x-wings, tie fighters and shuttles. And speeders

Even if it was rushed, it is polished as hell and the levels have more unique things in it than outcast
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Which game can I kill younglings in?
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Are any multiplayer modifications still alive?
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>>321173554
how do i get jedi knight to work? i used voodoo or whatever and extracted the files but its not working right.
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>>321177451
Outcast has a lot more problem solving and exploration, Academy's levels are more arena like.
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>>321177578
only mb2 for JKA
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http://webmshare.com/74Qwy
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>>321177626
you pray and then run it on something that is not windows 10
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>>321177663
in that case, dark forces 2 has even more exploration and puzzle solving, and it has good gun mechanics that feel fun as fuck, unlike outcast which has consolized clunky aiming

Outcast is the worst in the series
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>>321177730
im on 7.
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- The Phantom Menace
- Jedi Power Battles
- Jedi Outcast
- Jedi Academy
- Rebel Strike - Rogue Squadron III
- Rogue Leader - Rogue Squadron II

These games were all brilliant.

Rather mediocre others but still okay:
- Clone Wars
- Bounty Hunter
- Shadows of the Empire
- Episode 1 Racer
- Dark Forces
- Rebel Assault
- Battlefront 1, 2
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>>321177786
>consolized clunky aiming
JK2 (and Academy) runs on Quake 3 engine
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>>321177786
I kept getting lost in dark forces 2 and the controls are not better than Outcast's.

>Git gud
Maybe, but Outcast felt just right so I had way more fun playing that.
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>>321177927
Ban this person mods
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>>321177973
With aiming made to work with gamepads, which is why everything moves so bad.

The engine for academy in multiplayer is not the same on single player, probably the same for outcast.

Jedi outcast and academy, on single player, have awful consolized, floating aiming.
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>>321177927
Star Wars Racer is like a better F-Zero GX

You're high.
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what's the button for dodging?

I can't find it anywhere ;_;
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>>321178124
>Jedi outcast and academy, on single player, have awful consolized, floating aiming.
I really don't know where you got this from.
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>>321178037
>and the controls are not better than Outcast's.
stop.

You can't pixel perfect shoot people on outcast like you can on the previous games due to consolized gamepad friendly controls. Everything is sluggish and unprecise

>kept getting lost in dark forces 2
>is an argument for bad game because he is too dump

And here is the truth of why some people like outcast better, with simpler maps and slower, sluggish and bad firing controls: they are casuals.
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Are DF and DF2 connected storywise? Downloading the second one tb.h
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>>321178115
>smug anime face
kill yourself.
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>>321178227
playing single player shortly after having played dark forces 2. Completely different, inferior and consolized gun mechanics
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>>321178124
they have separate configs for sp and mp, that's all

also different physics, at least in Academy (strafe jumping got "fixed"(removed) in singleplayer, left in multiplayer)
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>>321178330

In fact, I was mid way on jedi outcast thinking: "WHY IS THIS GAME SO BAD. WHY AM I NOT HAVING FUN?"

Then it hit me "FUCK, this game was not pc exclusive, they made it for consoles"

Went on wikipedia "yep, consoles."

FPS made primarily for consoles and gamepad, always, always = complete shit
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>>321178237
>And here is the truth of why some people like outcast better, with simpler maps and slower, sluggish and bad firing controls: they are casuals.

>Bigger maps are better, no exceptions
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>>321178304
are you aware of what smug actually means?
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>>321173554
Outcast, best level design, best saber combat to this day, academy is cash grab sadly.
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>>321178304
>on 4chan
>complaining about anime
>it's not even smug
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>>321178534
>best saber combat to this day,

What is the difference between outcast and academy saber combat?

They look exactly the same, but academy has more sabers
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>>321173554

You posted it. Academy is the best game to feel like a Jedi.

It's shocking how there isn't a Star Wars game like it set during the Prequel era. Imagine being a Jedi Knight and climbing your way up the ranks of the Jedi Academy on Coruscant.
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>>321178621
academy has these shitty "cinematic" moves like butterflies and katas
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>>321178452
>>321178567
are you aware of how much cock you suck?
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>>321178702

And no one uses them because they're easily counterable and garbage. Your point?
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>>321177214

Where does it say it sends a screenshot?

All I can find is that it checks games/applications that you run to see if they are pirated versions and prevents you from using them if so.

That being said, I'm pretty sure you can just disable everything and forcibly remove all of the telemetry garbage, worthless services and apps, and whatever else they bloated it up with.

At least that's what I did and I don't get any outbound stuff. Takes a while to get it that way of course.
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>>321178621
It's a multiplayer thing, there is a bug that let's you do million damage if you shake your mouse more when the saber is inside opponent.
SP JO combat is tighter, they spent more time tuning it for one saber and just copypasted it to JA. You wouldn't know any of it if you play only SP though, damn i miss JA duel multiplayer, that thing was very competitive and hard as nails. You could feel yourself as a freaking jedi because how blocking worked for sabervssaber combat, some people could block almost everything.
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>>321178693
It's as myaterious as why there was never a play your own student in Hogwarts Harry Potter game ever made
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>>321178702
so jedi academys combat is worse because it added special moves (that are not even overpowered, you can only use them on npcs, on saber duels they leave you exposed)

fucking hipster
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>>321178853
I knew a couple dozens people that could kill you with a kata effortlessly, plus there was another bug with that you could one shot anyone with it if timed properly.
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>>321178912
>, I'm pretty sure you can just disable everything
>pretty sure

You can't be sure of anything on a close-source OS you faggot. This is why people are migrating to Linux. Open source = you can actually be sure things are disabled and there is no spyware.

it is time to master yourself.
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>>321173554
Yea outcast absolutely for saber combat. Just ignore the parts where you're forced to use the shittiest guns ever made in history of video games. It's totally all about that lightsaber.
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>>321178917
>there is a bug that let's you do million damage if you shake your mouse more when the saber is inside opponent.

That was called yawning I think, would get you banned from some servers
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>>321179058
He doesn't know what he is talking about.
Two things bad about JA - level design of 60% of the game that takes place on side missions, main mission are great. And slightly watered down combat, slightly.
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>>321179068
>I knew a couple dozens people that could kill you with a kata effortlessly

bad players that could kill other even badder players.

If you fought keeping distances like a good player does, no kata would hit you
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>>321179224
wiggle, yawn whatever, you know like they say in gundams - you can't kill me if you can't hit me, so most of the community was okay with it.
True masters used poke anyway, poke was much harder to perform and looked smoother.
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>>321175212
Why are you listening to these fucks?
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>>321179205
>Yea outcast absolutely for saber combat.

Outcast forces you to play like half of the game without a saber.

Jedi academy starts with saber from start, and has no gun requirement on any levels pretty much, and has more saber styles
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>>321179330
Well yeah, best german and russian players that nobody could beat in my time with the game about 3 years. Bad players all of them.
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>>321179359

Because people defending Jedi Academy are using arguments, while people defending outcast are not using arguments
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>>321179404
>like half of the game without a saber.
yeah, whole damn 1.5 hours out of 10 hours game. 2 levels without a saber how terrible!
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Fuck you guys, you're all cunts.
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>>321179336
>tfw switching styles during combat and getting a kill with the rolling poke
What an amazing feeling.
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DF2 > JO > JA
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>>321173693
Outcast is also far more dated than Academy. Level design is just horrid
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CAN
YOU
STILL
PLAY
SUM
MULTIPLAYER
AND
SHIET?
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>>321179664
They are one year apart, what are you smoking?
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>>321173554
jedi academy, join a role playing guild/Server if those still exist. get recruited as a padawan, and learn the art of swordsmanship from your master. (choose standart lightsaber). i used to be in a guild years ago and it was an amazing time, we had Events and tournaments with rivaling Clans, i was the best player in our guild. once i had a 30 Minute finale with the Champion of another guild, with both guilds watching and cheering us on, i was sweating bullets. also i had admin right and summoned tauntauns, rancors and spaceships all over the place. great fucking time
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>>321179720
And yet it's much worse in this regard. Levels drag on forever, maps like that Yavin jungle are plain terrible, you don't get to choose which force powers to evolve and lots of other things
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>>321179910
>Levels drag on forever
Just no. Just a starship level worth more than everything JA has.
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>>321179490
I'll tell you why Outcast is better:

>the buildup to acquiring the lightsaber, makes getting through those previous level worth it.
>how Kyle's force powers naturally become better instead of a skill point system when he progresses
>you play as motherfucking Kyle Katarn
>the game doesn't throw as much dark jedi at you as JA making each encounter more unique
>JO has more of the OT vibe to it while JA has the PT vibe to it
>the places you fight the dark jedi in are alot fucking better than the places you fight the ones in JA
>realistic saber combat command makes fight tense as fuck
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>>321177927
>Battlefront and Episode 1 Racer not brilliant
>No Republic Commando
You high mayne
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Is Battlefront on the PSP fun?
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>>321180152
oh yeah and >No Rosh
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>>321180209
>Republic Commando
It's was mediocre then, it is mediocre now. It's force unleashed of god of war clones in relation to "tactical fps".
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>>321180152
>realistic saber combat command makes fight tense as fuck
How was that different in JA?
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>>321180152
I mightve missed a couple but thats a quick list why I like JO over JA. But DF2 shits on both of them
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>>321173554
They're all great. Jedi Outcast is my personal favorite. It had better singleplayer, but Jedi Academy had far superior multiplayer, don't know if it's still alive though.
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star wars pleb here, what are the most essential videogames?

watched films (despecialized OT) a year or two ago in a release order
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>>321179910
On the flip side the best levels of JO are much better than anything JA has.

>people praising the gimmick levels of JA like the sandworm, the rancor or the Boba Fett missions when all I want is to have fucking lightsaber battles

Plus Jedi Academy BLEW anything that isn't single lightsabers because those dumb new special moves and the entire dual-bladed lightsaber are completely overpowered in single player.

I mean I like JA too but come the fuck on.
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>>321180347
you get hit easier in JA thanks to the edgelord weapons (double-bladed, dual blades)
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I know I'm a casual now, but how is modding DF2? I saw a guy play it with some graphics mod which made it look like JO/JA, and it looked great. The original game seems horribly dated graphics-wise.
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>>321180769
Weird how nobody remade old games on jo engine, q3 is easy to mod.
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>>321180328
That's a pretty shit comparison you're making.
I for one liked it, as did many others. Either way it's still considered one of the best Star Wars games.
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>>321179404
I was being sarcastic mate. Academy is objectively better. The combat is better in every way, the guns aren't complete shit and you're not forced to use them, and the fact that you get to use different types of lightsabres just fucking puts it lightyears ahead. I honestly can't see why anyone would defend Outcast so hard when it's objectively worse.
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>>321180959
it was the time when we had raven shield and swat 4 and they were popular at a time, everyone remembers that game only because of helmet wiper which was amazing true.
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>>321181091
>objectively worse
For fucks sake.
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>>321178917

>It's a multiplayer thing, there is a bug that let's you do million damage if you shake your mouse more when the saber is inside opponent.

Not this shit again. JO has poking too.
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>>321181902
but back when JO was popular no one was good enough to abuse it so they had no idea it existed
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>>321173554
jedi outcast > jedi academy
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>>321180849
So is the remake good or not?
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>tfw Kyle Katarn never existed and was retconned by Disney
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>>321183203

And then for that show, Rebels, they made a visual Katarn rip-off, by the name of Kanan.
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>>321174878
>Jedi knight: Jedi outcast: SHIT single player.
People told me the exact opposite yesterday
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post your Jedi Academy characters, m8s
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>>321173554
academy, i loved my yellow twilek swinging pink light saber around and turning to dark side
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Do you understand the unbanality of nervouism, /v/? Or are you a stubertist?
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