>its ok when Bethesda doesn't use a new game engine
>>321109385
Bitch, of course it's not! The only idiots arguing that are people who don't have eyes.
>>321109385
Creating and using a new engine when the old one is perfectly fine is a waste of money.
Why do you think Konami fired him?
>>321109385
why he didn't just made another MGS4
why he decided to try and make his own GTA5/Skyrim bullshit game
fucking retard ruined it all
>>321109385
You can't compare japanese coding with american coding
They're way ahead in optimization by far and can make their games look amazing for "cheap"
too bad they mostly make shit games
>>321110661
>Actually wanting another MGS4
I don't care how contrarian /v/ is, there is no way anyone can honestly prefer MGS4 > MGSV without having some seriously strong as fuck nostalgia.
>>321110661
>why he didn't just made another MGS4
Because MGS4 was a terrible fucking game that ruined the entire series
>>321111257
>endless repetitive missions
>story is incomplete
>unnecessary open world
>>321110706
>Americans not mostly making shit games
Wew lad
>>321111257
anything is better than unfinished game with shitty online mode
The engine was the least of Fallout 4's problems.
>>321109385
>2004
>>321110661
That's what everyone wanted him to do.
>2014
>>321111485
I didn't say that
>>321109994
>the old one is perfectly fine
>Bethesda's engine
>perfectly fine
It still has the same bugs from fucking Morrowind.
>>321109994
gr8 b8 m8
Using leftover assets from 9 years ago isn't acceptable.
I've seen better shader and texture mods for Fo3 than vanilla 4.
>>321111257
I actually prefer mgs4. V had me feeling like all the stupid shit in game was pointless. It wasn't memorable, i never felt like there was shit going on.
Mgsv gameplay is really good but it gets repetitive really quick.
Also im anal-devastated that mgo3 is shit.
>>321111425
>Can completely ignore the grind and additional content
>Implying MGS4 completed shit
>Not liking open world games means it is unnecessary
Sorry, but MGSV is objectively a better game than MGS4 will ever dream of being.
>>321112446
>>Not liking open world games means it is unnecessary
Yeah cause small outposts and endless rocks and jungles totally fits in a metal gear game.
>>321109385
But seriously though.
Why does Bethesda always release games with shit graphics and a fuckton of bugs? Can someone enlighten me on that?
Why are the japs so fucking retarded? Deep Down, FFXV, MGSV,all games with disastrous development cycles, built on poor-quality in-house engines which will never be used for other games. I am amazed at what a colossal and tragic waste of manpower, talent and money they have all proven to be, producing something that has a subset of the functionality of off-the-shelf engines in 2015.
>>321109994
Fox engine could have been used for loads of games, like what rockstar did with rage. But then Konami decided to say fuck aaa, we're going mobile and pachinko
>>321111663
>>321111782
but valve doesn't make games anymore tho
>>321112803
Bethesda uses an in house engine that is in itself a modified engine more than a decade old that it bought the rights to.
So, it's like building a house on a sinking foundation; s huge portion of development is simply keeping the very basic good enough.
When Bethesda produces not gamebyro games they tend to not have the same problems.
>>321112780
If you don't want to be able to try new and resourceful ways to have fun in a goddamn open-world, that's your own deal.
But what makes you think repeating the same scripted events are any better for other, more creative folk?
>>321110661
>fucking retard ruined it all
So you could say that he ruined the world of MGS, trying to make it into a game that would sell better like GTA5/Skyrim?
>>321111257
I thought 4 was the worst Metal Gear and didn't hold it in high regards at all. But I've have still preferred a structure similar to 4's than what we got in V.
Even if the story was hot trash (it was) it beats nothing at all, repetitive missions, being lied to through marketing, and the most disappointing ending the series has offered so far (yes, including 4's).
I can see why people prefer 4, and I think by using words like 'nostalgia' and 'contrarian' you're just blocking yourself from seeing those reasons.
>>321110661
>GTA5/Skyrim
I'd say it's more like a Far Cry-ish type of gameThe game still sucked fucking horsecock though
>>321113354
Luminous Engine was used for DOD3's cutscenes.
