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Just started playing dark souls for the first time

I've never played a souls game or a fromsoft title before, are there any tips, tricks or advice I should know?
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>>320986197
Don't raise resistance.
Done, you now know all the tips you need to know that you can't find out by just playing it yourself.
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>>320986378
/thread
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npcs carry loot so whack them over the head a few times to get it
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How about you just fucking play the game? Is that so scary that you'd rather be spoonfed every detail and ruin your one and only blind playthrough?
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>>320986197
Not really, just level up stats you want for your particular Build. Most people try Melee class, try and up your VIT, END and STR the most if you go for that.

Play cautiously and you'll have a safe time.

Reinforce a weapon you're comfortable with. More power =/= better for survival Unless you have the Black Knight Greatsword. Jesus fuck how did my friend kill Orny and Smough first try with that thing
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Don't kill NPCs until there is nothing left in the game to do.

Explore and experiment with the environment.

Don't put points into resistance. If you're going strength, don't put any into dex unless needed for a weapon. Opposite applies for dex.
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>>320986642
>Black Knight Greatsword
what's wrong with it?
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choose the master key as your gift
dont level resistance
dont fight merchants
unplug your router when someone invades you for free humanity
use the claymore and upgrade it
learn to lure enemies to fight them individually
download dsfix
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>>320986763
Theres nothing wrong WITH it. He literally went INTO the fight double handing it and obliterated them.
Fuck, I think he made Ornstein flinch.
Everything fell once he had the minimum amount of STR to doublehand it.
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>>320986197

>no resistance
>level into STR/DEX only to wield the weapons you want
>figure out if you want to use Faith, sorceries, or just weapons
>balance levels for abilities
>30 is when you get diminishing returns on END
>dump remaining stats into VIT if you plan to cap at SL100 or SL125
>If you want to go beyond SL125, go for the ultimate challenge by taking on NG+7.

I'll leave the rest to you.
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>>320986197
dont look at any guides and enjoy the ride.

kill the dogs first.
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>>320986197
I envy you, little fresh nigga.

I would give my left nipple for the chance to play Dank Souls for the first time again.
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>>320986763
>>320986863
Black Knight weapons are pretty rare drops, and very easy to cheese the game with.
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>>320986197
just play the game faget.
mistakes will be made but rest assured you will do another playthrough and will have learned from your experiences
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>>320986807

Play offline if you're going to be a pussy who asks his mom to unplug the router during an invasion, what cancerous trash.
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>>320986968
>kill the dogs first
>>320986197
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>>320986978
Yeah, I only managed to get the Halberd and Greataxe.
Any time I wanted to get the Greatsword, it never came for me, but my Friend got it TWICE. The lucky bastard.
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Be careful as to which stats you decide to increase.

You will not be able to reallocate your points unlike in Dark Souls 2. If you come across a hacker that reallocates your points all towards resistance, game over.
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>>320986197

>DSFix
>PVPWatchdog

The only mods you need to make the game 150x better than what consoles have. You can straight up BAN cheating invaders and banish them from your world.
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>>320986197
If you don't know what's ahead of you, raise your shield.

Oh, and you certainly should play with a shield for first playthrough.

You should also play Demon's Souls at some point.
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>>320987068
>kill the dogs first
Man, it's 2012 all over again.
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>>320986197
Place with skellingtons is for later
Don't level RES
You can upgrade weapons at a blacksmith
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>>320987054

no because then i cant summon people
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if you block while sprinting you'll still roll instead of jumping
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>>320987098
The Halberd is retty much the best of them all though
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>>320987151
>You can straight up BAN cheating invaders and banish them from your world.
I died due to being a dork fighting silver knights and got invaded while dying.
Nerd was a hacker so I booted him before I finished dying.
I wonder if he got my souls/humanity or not.
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and remember
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>>320986807
>recommending to pull the plug

How much of a shitter can you be?
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Abuse backstab
Drop your shield between getting hit, so your stamina regenerates faster
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>>320987418

You don't deserve summons.

Casual.

I bet you beat the game with godmode on and all your stats modded to 99.
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>>320987518
>his metal
>not mettle

Retarded.
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Watch it so you don't give up on the game at Capra Demon like I did.
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>>320987518
>9gag
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>>320986807
>master key
>as gift for your first run
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Dying is part of the process.
Use summons and help your fellow souls using the white soapstone.
Never take unessessary risks
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>>320987639
oh no please dont call me names, it hurts my feelings. how am i supposed to enjoy video games with the thought of some fuckboy disapproving of how i play them?!?!
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>>320987653
it's a hamfisted joke, anon
do you not like ham
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Beat a black dude and wield his weapon.
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>>320987054
>>320987546

>encouraging a new player to just get hacked by cheaters

Cheaters pls go
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>>320987252
God, it seems the skeletons ALWAYS get everyone.

>>320987445
Yeah, I'm aware, but it still amazes me how he flattened EVERYTHING. He struggled on the archers, but everything after died. I'm sure he flattened all the silver knights.
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>>320987120
Do people really do that? Is it permanent? That's fucking hilarious.
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Take things slowly, take time to explore. Your armor's weight and your equip load stat determine how quickly you move, dodge, and your general i-frames. Armor defense isn't nearly as important as poise, or in fighting game terms, Super Armor. Low weight armor tends to have jack shit for poise, but can carry good resistances like resistance to poison or curse.

Weapon level and weapon scaling are far more important than your own personal level, and if you have the option to level yourself up or level up your weapon, level up the weapon first. Most weapons in the game can carry you through the game so once you find one you like, try to stick with it.

Don't kill NPCs unless they actively attack you first. If you accidentally attack one you don't want to kill and they become hostile, spend souls at the pardoner in the church to forgive your sins. Also if you have the souls, buy at least one Purging Stone from him. Curse is by far the worst status ailment in the game.
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>>320987863
>every invader is a hacker

I encountered like 2 hackers in my 300 hours logged on PC and neither of them fucked with my save. Stop acting like it is the norm.
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>>320986807
>choose the master key as your gift
don't even, OP
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Stop advertising your game faggot its not even that hard you chinese gook
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>>320987794

I chose the master key on my first blind run, being able to open doors is always important no matter what game you play. All other gifts seemed worthless in comparison, and they are.
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>>320988062
I'm not a chinese gook I'm two chinese gooks
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>>320986197
Capra demon is a pretty dumb fight and you'll get mad at the fact that (unlike other fighters) it either doesn't reset perfectly, or the dogs are random, or the things the AI is sensitive to are so subtle that basically the fight will change minutely each time in a stupid

Just cheese the fight by running up the stairs and jumping onto the tree, it's not even a real boss fight anyway and it's only "hard" because of the tiny room, the camera going apeshit on the overhanging garbage, and the randomness of the dogs' pathing
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>>320987863
>not just booting the cheaters
I have fought a grand total of maybe 5 hackers of however many hundred non.
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>>320987814

>I can't fight other people because I'm bad at the game
>I need those same people to kill the boss for me

You don't play the game, you let others play it for you. :^]
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>>320988103
Master key fucks with your progression though. Better take a twin humanity or firebombs.
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I couldn't find the right way to go after the tutorial. If you can' kill the first enemy you come across once you reach the main land, you're going the wrong direction.

Protip, just play DarkSouls 2.
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>>320986197
Upgrading your weapons and then two-handing them makes the game literal easy mode. If you have the opportunity to two-hand, you should always go for it since it deals heavier damage.

Spend some time practicing your rolling and don't bother with the shield.

If you have that down and want to completely fuck open the game, practice parrying and playing without lock on.
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>>320986197
Get gud
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>>320988198
if i want to fight other people i'll turn on my trainer and go invade them. otherwise i prefer privacy for my own session.
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>>320988339
>>320988374
lol hive
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>>320988258

>fuck with progression

It's an open world RPG, it's impossible to fuck your progression unless you kill all the traders and fire keepers you can.
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>>320987893
I believe it's permanent, judging from a video I watched.
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>tfw got stuck at Gaping Dragon
Yeah call me a faggot but I tried like a hundred times.
I even beat fucking Capra demon in like three tries! Now I've been cursed like the faggot I am so I have to go back to get the cure. Fuck, why do I suck so much?
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>>320988293
>Protip, just play DarkSouls 2.
>Over Dark Souls 1

It must physically hurt to be this stupid
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>>320988339

Great image, it's all OP needs.
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>>320988339
>Poise is useful but will occasionally get you killed.
How could having poise possibly get you killed?
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>>320988038
>>320988184

Right hackers, youtube is fucking full of people getting hacked, having their save destroyed, having important NPCs killed, and so on.

Even if there weren't rampant hacking, the PvP in the game isn't worth doing until SL130+, before that as a new player you're just going to get ganked by twinks you have zero chance of defeating.

>in after you both admit griefing hapless noobs is the only pleasure you get from the game
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>>320988490
>tfw got stuck at Gaping Dragon

I don't believe you. The fucker literally does the same three things over and over again. Are you being retarded and locking onto him or something?
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>>320988475
You clearly didn't understand me.
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>>320988446

Whatever you say, casual.
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>>320988623
>having important npcs killed
Don't fight people near npcs?
Wow so difficult.
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>>320988616
That means don't rely on it too much
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>>320988616
>Miss attack with heavy weapon
>Animation takes ages to finish
>Meanwhile you're exposed and the enemy is poking you with his pointy stick
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>>320988623
You are full of shit and you know it. Sod off.
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>>320988446

>turn on my trader and invade

Too bad any player that's good at the game uses PvP watchdog and can banish you the second you join. Have fun invading players as shit as you, boy.
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>>320988701
I don't even remember anymore. I stopped playing months ago because I just couldn't get past that fucker. I'll get to it again soon.
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>>320988293
There is no "right way" to go, all ways loop, as long as you DON'T have the Master Key you'll always end up doing everything there is to do (if you have the Master Key you can sequence break and end up sort of plowing on in one direction a long way)
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>>320988701
>Are you being retarded and locking onto him or something?
I always lock onto him.
I don't think I have ever actually died to gaping since maybe my first character.
Hell I don't really even remember dying to him then either.
Probably because my first character was a sorcerer.
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>>320986197
Get a bow early on and buy a bunch of the cheap wooden arrows. When you run into the dragon on the bridge, get into a position where you can repeatedly shoot his tail. After enough shots the tail will come off and you'll get the Drake Sword, which is a very good longsword early on.
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>>320988718

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "progression"
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>>320988758
Not related to poise.
>>320988742
Then it should say that instead, it's misleading.
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>>320986378
I'm throwing one more in with yours. Don't use firekeeper souls as their active item. Some npcs will take them from you in exchange for something that's infinitely more valuable than 5 soft humanity
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>>320986197
>resistance is useless
>kill the dogs first
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>>320987863

>he doesn't know about PVP Watchdog
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>started my first blindrun
>see this faggot sitting at the fire
>slash him
>he flinches but goes back to talking
>assume you cna't kill NPCs, attack him again
>he starts going after me and kills me
>oh well
>spawn back, the faggot is still after me
>kills me again
>have to run the fuck away
>he falls to his death while chasing me
Man, what a start.
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>>320988997
Yes it is.
When your poise is high enough your character wont react to being hit, so his attack animation isnt cancelled and the enemy is free to damage you
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>>320988980
Progression is the order of completion and has nothing do with killing NPCs or whatever the fuck you were talking about. The master key allows you to skip certain things or do them in a different order, fucking with the regular order of progression, which a new player should experience, in my opinion.
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>>320988997
>Then it should say that instead, it's misleading.
You're right. I did not make that image tho
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>>320989029
Nah that's definitely something you can learn yourself if you read the item description and using your brain.
Can you reinforce weapons by "using" titanite from your inventory?
No, no you cannot.
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>>320988616
knockdown invulnerability
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>>320988854
It's also possible that you didn't kill the caster who's above and he's buffing the boss for you.

>>320988897
>Probably because my first character was a sorcerer.
Ugh, out of all two hundred hours I've sank into Dark Souls I don't think I ever used a build different than the Greatsword +15.
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>>320989216
Not gonna play, but still curious what comes up.
Hopefully not some magic shit.
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>>320988490
Run far away from it. It slams into the ground and charges you in a straight line. Run up, hit it in the side. Run away. It slams into the ground and charges you in a straight line and so on.
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>>320989216
sure, why not
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I got a SL1 dickwraith with a chaos dagger +5. I use it for exactly what you think I do. Usually I try to make the invasion interesting.

>yesterday
>invade a guy that is obviously new
>he is scared when he sees me, starts shooting soul arrows
>i block the attacks but do not retaliate, keep following him
>he summons phantoms to help which I kill immediately
>eventually he realizes I am not here to harm him and he goes about his business
>goes to kill the spear hollows on the way to the merchant
>he is bad at the game, the new kind of bad, not the casual shitter kind of bad
>after hitting up the merchant he keeps going towards the taurus demon, the door the armored hollow opens was still closed
>he almost dies here but manages to kill them all, feel a sense of pride
>he goes up the stairs and yet again almost dies to the 3 hollows but manages to push through
>i go before him and point to the tower to warn him of the sniper, he realizes something is up and kills the crossbowman
>he dispatches the 3 armored hollows with soul arrows which yet again almost dying
>my dickwraith tendencies take over and I point to the black knight like the tower and he goes down there trusting i am helping
>he immediately shoots a soul arrow on the black knight thinking it is a normal enemy
>i back down to give him space to fight as he realizes this is a tough enemy
>he gets it to the open and gets hit, keeps chipping away at it, failing to dodge, managing to estus 3 times before he seemingly ran out
>he gets the black knight to 15% hp or so before he bites the dust
>look up his steam profile through players met and see he has 1 steam game with 2,5 hours in it. Dark Souls
>add him to my friend list to let him know he did good
>he accepted my request just now and I can see he has only one steam friend, me

Titus, if you are here in this thread I want you to know I am sorry for tricking you and I hope you git gud at the game. Sincerely.
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>>320989216
Here we go again
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>>320986197
kill that fat fuck at Firelink
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>>320989294
You're missing out anon, Sorcerer build was super fun and a completely different level of difficult as a first playthrough.
Not able to use heavy shields, having to learn how to dodge, being able to sneak past enemies with magic, fall control.
Magic is fun.
Magic is somewhat unfun when all the enemies in an area have magic resistance though.
But that's why lightning/fire halberds exist.
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>>320988490
Everybody has their ultimate turbo-hate boss in DaS 1.

For me it's 4nigz.
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>>320989294
Try DEX build, they said. It will be fun, they said. Washing Pole +15 is best weapon, they said. They were right
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>>320989489
>Not able to use heavy shields
>having to learn how to dodge

Greatsword +15 doesn't require a shield (in fact you're gimping yourself if you use one) and you do need to learn how to dodge because there are situations where some enemies won't get one-shotted by your normal two handed attack. But it's rare.
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>>320989424
Eh, learning there are some enemies you have to either learn how to fight or come back later is still a good thing to learn early on.
At least you didn't let him use summons for Undead Burg.
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>>320989390
>sorcery+miracles princess guard deprived
I'm gonna have some fun this christmas.
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>>320986197
most important of all

UPGRADE YOUR FUCKING WEAPONS (the first time you can do this is shortly before you fight the gargoyl)

Also learn how weapon scaling works, if you get a high dmg weapon that doesn't scale with your lvl you either have to stop lvling up or get a another one that actually uses your stats (str / dex)
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>>320986197
Take yo time. Listen to the messages on the floor but doubt them. Play cautiously and slowly. enjoy!
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>>320989502
I fucking hate Seath, mainly because the path to him is so annoying. I always wanted to throw the controller when I died to him becaue of some stupid mistake.
Eventually I didn't die to him at all anymore, but it was still always a tense moment and I was glad when it was over.
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>>320987432

300 hours and I didn't know this. Fuck.
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>>320986197
Never wear armor

Equip only one weapon

R O L L T O W I N
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>>320989216
rolling because it runs on my toaster
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>>320988846
I actually used a trainer on my pvp only character to put her in oolacile township and give her sl 125 and the items needed. I believe I have never been banned in pvp
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>>320989216
rolling in case I install it again.
plz be fun build
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>>320989502
4kids really are the worst.

>you have to kill Sif first to fight them
>take up one ring slot
>spawn on the other end of the abyss
>almost always throw that retarded fucking magical attack at you right after
>close AoE explosion attacks because fuck you
>grab attack
>wonky as fuck hitboxes which makes it hard to stagger them
>utterly marginalized by using a character with high poise
>utterly fucking annoying if you go for fashion souls instead of muh armor
>race against time
>you're greeted by a kike snake after beating them
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>>320989808
Yeah
>"Try jumping"
>Nevermind those bloodstains nearby. Just try jumping.
>"Amazing chest ahead."
Totally legit
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>>320990089
If just stay close and on their ass, you only have to watch out for the grab and the explosion, both of which are pretty generously telegraphed.
R1 to win
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>>320990050
No because the hack people are watching out for are people who are SL 120 but invading levels far lower than them.
If you're fighting level 120s then it doesn't matter.
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If you free Lautrec kill him
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>>320990089
>>320990312
That's pretty much how I beat them.
Ignored all common sense and trying to figure out their attack patterns.
Attack>Attack>Attack>Attack>Attack
Thanks BK Greataxe.
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>>320988854
that's like the easiest boss in the game lol
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>>320989216
Funroll
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>>320990487
I hate when people give this advice, it may be irritating but it makes for a great expirience.
also no sexy armor
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>>320990487
Getting fapring this early on pretty much turns the game easymode though.
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>>320989216
Let's try this
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>>320989216
rollin
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>>320990597
It works because their melee attacks deal fuck all damage this close. They only hit you with the lower part of their weapon as opposed to the whole blade.
Stamina reg stuff + decent poise + weapon buff make them trivial.
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>>320986197
kill the dogs first

there I just told you how to get past the retard filter
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>>320991015
This looks kinda neat. Never tried whips but always wanted to since they seem like a fun weapon, at least in PvE. Not sure how good are they in PvP.
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>>320991102
fuck
fists are possibly the shittiest weapon in the game
gonna main pyromancy then
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>co-oping with elite cleric gear and crescent axe as low level

bow before the lord, dickwraiths.
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>>320989216
keep rollin rollin rollin rollin
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>>320991216
I have honestly no idea how I'm gonna do it on a low level character.
I have no red titanite to upgrade my chaos claw/fire rapier.
I do have a lightning claw though.
Guess I can just farm a slab or find one for that.
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>>320986197
OP, I'm doing a blind play through of Bloodborne right now. Just play the game you stupid fuck.
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>>320989216
wanted to play again, so why not
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>>320991634

How are you liking it so far?

I have, like, four different characters with another one coming up soon. Really enjoying it.
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>>320986197
I actually killed one of the black knights and got its weapon. Which.... well made the game easier then it needed to be. I suggest avoiding using any weapons that utilize twinkling titanite for upgrades in regards to PvE, its makes the game piss easy.
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>>320989272
This. While upper blighttown is awful and you'll hate every 5fps moment you're there, it should be experienced properly at least once.
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>>320986978

Huh, I'm 10 hours in for the first time, the first one I killed in Undead Burg dropped a sword.
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>>320991793
>only magic
time to cheese
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>dsfix
Is it really worth it? I'm using it after playing through the game several times and it's getting me killed whenever I want to make a jump.
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>>320992257
Playing at 60fps makes your jumps shorter. I think you can set a hotkey to toggle between 30 and 60 fps.
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>>320988490
I went through the entirety of Blighttown while cursed.

GIT
GUD
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>>320991467
Power Within if you're feeling good about dodging and healing, if not, stack as much magic defense as possible, all their attacks are pure magic damage.
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>>320987653
>What is a pun?
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>>320990487
Don't do this. You DO get a really good ring, but it also breaks and is gone forever(until NG+) if you ever take it off. Better to keep your options open and not use it as a crutch.
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>>320986378
>Don't raise resistance.
Shittiest meme ever.
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>>320992782
Well I'm mostly worried about damage.
I do have pyromancies, will they chunk them?
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>>320993161
Chunk them? If you're upgrading your pyro flame, which is a fuck load of souls to do, it can def help to carry you thru the fight. You're doing it low level tho, so it might just be a better idea to get an elemental weapon or use a buff, and again, power within helps but can also get you killed if you mess up.
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>>320989216
Rolling because i fucked up my fire longsword run and i need a new character
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>>320993494
What happened
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Anyone want to help an anon out with the Four Kings on NG? I'm playing on PC if anyone feels like fighting with me
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Watch out for invaders pic related me waiting for this afk guy to come back before I kick him of this ledge.
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>>320993481
Okay, thanks for the help anon.
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>>320993578
Got obsessed with the wood ring and dumped too much into End. Yeah sure, i can pick up levels later on, nor is like endurance is a useless stat, but lost the drive to keep playing
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Priscilla
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>>320989424
>he is scared when he sees me
>tfw this was actually a true

Now everyone just alt+f4s or turns on cheats.

>tfw people used to be able to send messages on GFWL
>jizzing over my rare weapons
>now people just load them in to the game with some gay cheating program
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>>320994147
>GFWL

i'm glad it's over.
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>>320992463
>>320992257
Default keybind should be backspace
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>>320994314
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>>320994037
make sure you kill this bitch
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>>320994552
no! priscilla is pure! so are her feet!
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>>320994314
>>320994516
Just use legacy captcha
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>>320994037
Cute. But I'm still going to kill her for dem souls
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>>320986378
can someone explain to me whats wrong with raising resistance?
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>>320988490
Just run away from him, he does this shit charge that leaves him open for 5 minutes

rinse and repeat
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>>320994852
it does fucking nothing. it doesn't increase your defense and your poison/toxic/bleed res is increased by armor already.
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>>320989502
Hardest fights for me were ornstein and smough and lord of cinder

never parried through the whole game
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>>320994852
All of the benefits it gives are extremely small and can be gained thru rings/armor/shields. Any physical/magical resistances can be met by having a bunch of soft humanity on you or simply upgrading your armor. It's basically a wasted level and should be ignored by all.
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remember the good ol' days?
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>>320994634
priscilla, Sif and quelag's sister gave me feels like no other game did before

All three of them just wanted to be left alone and you literally fuck up their lives for nearly no reasons.
Poor priscilla gets rejected by bullies and goes to live in a painting, and you still go to her world to fuck her up
Sif is just guarding his master's grave, even he's limping he just doesn't give up the fight
Quelag was just protecting her blind, agonizing sister, and you came and killed her only protector and companion

The world of dank souls is dark, but no other game made me feel like such a bully.
Not even Bully.
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>>320995252
Sif is sadder if you do the DLC first.
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Is there any way to reliably beat Bed of Chaos? This fucking thing is the bane of my existence. I lost 36 humanity and 140k souls today BECAUSE IT FUCKED ME WITH ITS BRANCHES
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>>320995252
>and you still go to her world to fuck her up
You know you don't have to kill her right?
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>>320994686
>>320994516
>>320994314
>not having a 4chan pass
>2015
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I cannot beat the Four Kings for the life of me
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>>320995252
>People attack you without talking to you first
>Somehow it's your fault.
Priscilla is the only one of those you should feel bad about.
Sif is clearly intelligent enough to understand that you need to be able to traverse the abyss to fight, hell Alvina should have been able to vouch for you at a higher Forest Hunter level, really not sure why that wasn't a thing.
Quelaag was just a bitch who attacked you without warning.
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>>320989216
roll
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Some bosses drop special Souls. For example, Soul of Johnny Soul-Fingerer. Never ever consume these Souls. Use them at a certain smith to create rare weapons instead.
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>>320995408
Maybe I'm just lucky, but I usually two-hand a decent shield and quit and reload after after hitting each of the segments and I usually don't have any issue.
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>>320989216
rollan
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>>320989216
rollings
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>>320995408
Run to the left orb thing outside of the range of the branches and destroy it. Run outside of the range of the falling floor and branches again to the right for the second orb thing. Then run back to the entrance, sprint towards the hole in the floor, jump, and hope you hit the platform beneath.
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>>320995739
Yeah, I do that too for left and right. But I can't for the life of me get through the center. I try baiting an attack, I try blocking, I try dodging and nothing seems to work. It's just a matter of luck if I live or die.
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>>320989216
why not
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>>320986197
you are to late for the Partey
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>>320995641
Are you
>>320993712

I could help
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>>320989216
plS
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>>320996125
Yeah they're both me
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>>320989216
rolling
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>>320995641
You gotta go ham on him

what's your build, your DPS could just be too shit
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How do I reach this item?

I fall off the next ledge Everytime I try and jump over.
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>>320996236
I can help you kill them if you want. I'll leave my sign right before the fog wall leading to four kings. I'll wait for like 20 minutes.
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>>320996338
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>>320996501
sweet, I'll be there in a few
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>>320996552
>resistance 16
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>>320996474
Try a different route.
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>>320996552
>that much poise

you just gotta be more confident man

It's a DPS race more than it is anything else, you should be killing kings before the next one spawns
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>>320996759
I found the proper way.

I'm assuming the Crow will take me somewhere if I curl up in a ball? The Firelink guy said something about a man being carried off.

I've only beaten 1 boss, am I ready for this avian adventure?
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Yeah, Demons' Souls is better. Specifically, Dark Souls punishes you for playing with people online by not allowing you to save. It also doesn't let you play with whoever you want. Demons' Souls lets you play with whoever you want since it's all on one server. It's this reason why Dark Souls should not be your first Souls experience, as you'll basically be playing the entire game by yourself whereas Demons' Souls eased you into the experience.

Difficulty wise, Demons Souls was difficult but fair. Dark Souls was difficult but unfair. And before anyone tells me to git gud, I platinumed both games and beat them each multiple times.
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So pyromancy doesn't scale with anything right? I heard the casting speed does go up with Dex though?
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How viable are halberds?
I want to do a dex/miracle build
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>>320997113
Anon these are the sorts of questions you shouldn't be asking when playing the game.
Close 4chan, play the game.
Don't ruin it for yourself.
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>>320997597
Stray Demon killed me in one shit.

I'll come back later.
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>>320997727
ayy

there's some cool stuff back there but nothing mandatory
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>>320995408

>tfw Bed of Chaos was rushed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLtOVh1sG1A
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>>320989216
ayyy
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>>320996552
So you're just tanking hits then? I'm too lazy to go look them up, but there are much, MUCH, lighter armor that has good MDef, mobility might help you out. And maybe kindle the fire for 20 flasks?
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>>320996501
I can't see your sign for some reason even though I'm at the bridge. What level are you? I'm 61
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>>320986197
>installed this morning
>put the DSFix
>couldnt remember the graphics being that good
>Died 10 times straight to Ravel
>unninstal
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>>320995408
Big trunks are safe zones in terms for collapsing floor

you can outrange his branches

then it's just a hop skip jump and you're skaboodle
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>>320989216
fuck
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>>320998127
I'm 83. I think I just saw your phantom.
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>>320998290
Would there be any reason this wouldn't work? My friend tried invading the other day and I couldn't see him either
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>>320989216
fuck it
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>>320998634
I read that it has something with download regions you set in steam. I have Luxembourg because I heard it's the best but I'm not sure.
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>>320998802
That might be it, I'm assuming I have USA because I haven't changed any of that
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>>320998290
levels too far apart
I think
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>>320998290
>>320998127
Godspeed, Undead.
Also, post artwork.
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>>320989216

Give me the worst possible combo, let's make this easy game hard.
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>>320999119
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>>320998290
>>320999119
Thanks for trying anyway anon, here ya go
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>>320998802
The region lock was removed.
You're either not in the same level bracket or just need to wait.
Sometimes it takes several minutes for signs to appear.
Sometimes you just need to reapply the sign and it'll show instantly.
I would recommend you both find an IRC or something to communicate with each other or just add on steam otherwise it's gonna be a pain for you both.
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>>320999250
I have to get off soon anyway but thanks for the info anons
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>>320999357
Oh well, sorry I couldn't help you. Just keep trying and you can beat them on your own or try summoning someone else.
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>>320989216
rolling
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>>320999250

PvPWatchdog tells you how many nodes you're connected to, as long ass you've got 15+ nodes you're able to summon or be invaded by practically anyone.
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>>320999214
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>>320999759
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>>320995252
Priscilla is the only trophy that is missing on my PSN account to get the platinum trophy. I will never get it
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>>320986197
Look up a guide on how to get the zwihander and upgrade it to chaos

the game plays itself
>>
>only got into Souls this year
>by the time I did everything had been spoiled, I knew so much about the game from osmosis
I really should have gotten into them sooner.
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>>321000308
that sucks. i remember getting dark souls back in 2011 when it came out, i had no idea what it was so before buying it i looked up a bunch of videos of boss fights and playthroughs

big mistake. i didn't know i was basically destroying my first playthrough experience by doing that

Anyways, i bought it instead of skyrim
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>>321000603
It's probably part of why I love Bloodborne so much. It was my first 100% blind 'Souls'.
Looking forward to Dark 3 as well.
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>>321000695
Yeah i will completely stop browsing /v/ around the time it comes out, because even with filters you're not safe from spoilers
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>>320999835
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>>321001025
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>>321001025
I almost wish Bloodborne had made some reference to Marvelous Chester. It would have been really dumb, but I still kind of wanted it.
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>>321001136
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>>321001287
Well, his attire would certainly fit in.
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Also when you reach the forst and open the door with the crest, walk really slowly, or youre in for an ass whooping.
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>>321001715
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>>320996552

Looks exactly like me the first time through the game.
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>>321001715
That's what I mean.
He has sort of victorian clothing, he's from the far future, or possibly another world entirely, and he has a complex mechanical weapon.
It would have at least been a funny little cameo or nod.
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>mfw I can't finish Dark Souls because The Four Kings just gives me nausea and I just start vomiting.
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>>321002020
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>>321000951
Sadly I did that before buying DaS2.
Needless to say, buyer's remorse hit hard with that one. I wish I browsed the threads and didn't dismiss "DS2 is shit" as nothing but a meme.
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>>321002430
What's wrong with it?
>>
>>321002430
>relying on /v/ to decide
>all those faggot who parrot shit
>muh miyazaki

Dark Souls 2 is a fucking solid Souls game.
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>>321003789
Generally just shittily designed. We could be here all day if we went into complete detail.
Poorly laid out levels, poorly laid out enemy placement, badly designed bosses, bizarre changes to combat mechanics such as dodging, fan-fiction level story, really bad world design so much so that there are separate areas that occupy the same space, soul memory breaking the online.
We could really just keep going on.
>>
Literally git gud
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>>320989216
Rolling to derail.
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>>320987662
Capra demon is like the easiest and worst boss in the game
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>>321003789
Basically the name. It's okay as a Souls game, but it's following Demon's and Dark, and it's called Dark Souls 2. It had expectations to live up to and failed to do so. It's an okay game, but a lot, A LOT, of people were expecting so much more from it. And as >>321004004
says, we could be here all day talking about it.
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>>320986197
Don't ever bother trying to learn parrying or something. It's useless. Just get an OP shield familia.
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>>321003789
This is a real area from Dark Souls 2. This is 100%, literally how it's laid out.
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>>320989216
Yeah, let's roll.
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>>321004358

I'm playing through DaS1 and it's quickly becoming one of my favorite games, the atmosphere, designs just fit my personal tastes so well.

Is it worth buying DaS2 if it turns up in a steam sale? I hear its bad, but there's 'bad but still playable' and 'so bad it's not worth it'.
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>>321004004
Maybe I have shit taste but I think the only bad bosses in Das2 were Covetous Demon and the rats.
Also the levels felt as good as in DaS to me. There were some bad ones like the Dragon Aerie but also some really good stuff like the wraith-spawning trap room you have to drop into in the crypt.
I agree about the story being bad.
How was dodging worse than in DaS? I think it worked just fine but I did level adaptability.
>>
Question: is the elite armor worth it for p v e?
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>>321004830
There was this weird thing with dodging where your hitbox wasn't in synch with your character model. It's where the "shockwaves" thing came from.
It's not even a bug, they never patched it out. It's an intentional design that basically means your hitboxes are lying to you.

Also, tying i-frames to a stat was just weird.
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>>321004769
the biggest problem with das2 was that it was a disappointment
it was a huge step down from das, and that's why people say it's so bad
it's a decent game, and there are some good parts once you learn to game the system
>>
>>320989216
roll
>>
>>321004769
I say get it during the winter sale. Make sure to get Scholar of the First Sin.
>>
>>321004769
It's an alright game that's mostly seen as bad because it makes so many mistakes the other games in the series avoided. It's worth playing because it's still an alright game, and also as a case study as to what the other games do so right. Finding the flaws is enjoyable in its own right.
Hell, despite the massive disappointment it's probably still my favorite game of whatever year it came out in.
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>>321003789

Every other boss fight is like "you guys liked that boss fight with two bosses right? Well here is three or more!"
>>
>>321004769
Yes it's worth it. Just don't expect it to be on the same level as 1, a lot of stuff did improve, but also some things didn't or got worse. But yeah, it's totally worth it to get it on sale.
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>>321004830
>adaptability

This is a problem, why tie it to a stat in the first place?
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>>321005029
>>321005079
>>321005132
>>321005180

May as well give it a try. I just checked and apparently its shorter than DaS1 so at least I can just brute force through it if it turns out too bad.
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>>321005047
Sorcerer, using swords, with no magic.

ffs.
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>>321004830
>Also the levels felt as good as in DaS to me
Some, particularly the earlier ones, were pretty good. Forest of Fallen Giants was a nice interconnected mess with lots of unlockable paths going to and from the one bonfire. The Bastille was also interesting, going so far as to allow for two different ways to enter it and progress through it.
Besides those two, though, the levels were generally entirely linear, and didn't even bother hiding it. The linear levels in Dark Souls and Bloodborne at least attempt to make themselves look natural, but in DaS2 you get entirely obvious piles of rubble and straight hallways.
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>>321005159
Ruin sentinels and the throne guys are great bosses though.
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>>320986197

Backstab enemies and roll INTO attacks like a fucking retard, because that actually works and is in fact usually the most advantageous thing you can do because "rolling/evading" to Miyazaki means "invincibility frames lol" instead of actually, you know, dodging away or evading in general.

Exploit dex weapons since they are always the best. Don't do pvp, it's fucking awful.
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>>321005537
I liked the sentinels, but I got the throne guys on my first try much like most of the other bosses so I don't even know what they're like. I felt like there wasn't much I could do besides walk backwards, wait for both of them to attack at the same time, smash them once, repeat.
They didn't seem that interesting.
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>>321004968
>is x worth it for pve
yes, you can beat the game naked with your fists if you're good, and beat tit with anything else as long as you know how to play
go for fashion and whatever weapon feels good
>>
Does anyone have tips for beating Black Dragon Kalameet? I eventually gave up on the game after getting stumped by him, but feel like getting back into it soon. I think I was using a Halberd.
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>>321006074
Then what is the point of armor for pve? In addition, does roll speed also follow your argument?
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>>321005860

>dex weapons always the best

Pretty much any weapon is viable from start to finish OP. I hope you don't get the black knight sword that an enemy might drop early on as you won't really want to try anything else.
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>>321006523
>Then what is the point of armor for pve?
Some poise is nice.
>>
>>321004830
Most of the bosses in DaS2 aren't bad but they are incredibly similar in design. So many of them are just mid-sized humanoids with long weapons. It's intensely dull.
>>
how the fuck do I get near the water spitting hydra behind all the ice golems in the forest? I can't reach that fucking thing.
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>>321006907
He will attack with his heads if you get in the water.

Attack the heads to cut them off.
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>>321006907
I usually just run to the hydra, the golems end up getting killed by the hydra's attacks.
The fight itself can be pretty fucking annoying when he has very few heads left though. He'll usually just miss and you'll have to run to his head in time. Make sure you go to the toilet before you start, I was fighting him during a SL1 playthrough once and had to piss real bad about 10 minutes in, and the fucker just wouldn't attack close enough for me to hit his head in time.
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>>321006523
it makes enemies hit less hard and lets you tank attacks without flinching, so you can kill more reliably with big slow weapons and not use as much estus as quickly
but yeah, roll speed is much more important than armor in pve, especially for new players
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>>321006523
The naked bodies are ugly and the armor looks cool.
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>>321006523
Picking a weapon you like, I agree with.
You can absolutely ninja flip/fastroll with armor on. The defense and poise are nice to have.
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>>321006723
>Some poise is nice.
One or, two hits?

>>321007260
>roll speed is much more important than armor in pve, especially for new players
I disagree I thought that playing with warrior was easier than playing the depraved, even though depraved hit harder and had more mobility.
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>>321006907
FUCK!
This is why I miss DaS so much.
That joy of saying "How the fuck do I beat this bullshit boss?". That fear when seeing that hydra standing far away, and sending you flying with those water bullets of his...
Man, I miss playing DS for the first time again. Now I know exactly what to do, and it's just not that fun anymore...
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>>320988916

Fuck that, much quicker to do a suicide run into the catacombs, jump into the coffin and join the gravelord covenant, to get the much more damaging Gravelord sword.
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>>321007915
>that adrenaline
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>>320986197
> Agility is generally better than defense.
> Pick of enemies one by one; you will get raped if they gang up on you.
> You can get the Drake Sword by shooting the Red Dragon's tail 50 times.
> In the depths keep killing the rats to get Humanity (use some humanity to up your pick up rate).
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>>321008104

It's not too hard if you know where yer going.
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>>320987662
> Get Drake Sword
> Grind level up to about level 50
> Crush Capra Demon with ease

The fucker barely got a hit on before I struck him down.
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>>321008761
>not skipping him with the master key then scrubshotting him with a +15 DGM with 40 str
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>>320987662
I gave up when I decided to lvl up.
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>>321008593
Didn't say it was hard, I just remember it getting me pumped running through as a depraved
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>>321009258
Every now and then start a new game, pick cleric, and immediately go smite Pinwheel with a +0 mace. The catacombs is such a great area.
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>>321005292
>I just checked and apparently its shorter than DaS1
It's not.
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>>320989216
I guess
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