why does australia have no games industry?
>>320930273
criminals cant into school
I was going to say the borderlands pre sequel was made there, then remembered the studio shut down, woops
>hourly /pol/ thread
I knew it was coming soon
>>320930273
Australia has a lot of game and film special fx houses, but they work for big companies over-seas.
A guy I knew did some of the effects for the Iron Man movies here.
>>320930456
aushit wakes up and falseflagging the entire boards
Spiders
>>320930456
better than usual /v/ thread where 17 yr old weebs jag it over animated tits
There's a bunch of "colleges" and "universities" that have game related courses. Non of them really provide graduate training or opportunities.
Therefore no graduates to go into the industry.
There's also the fact that nearly any game related company in Australia seems to go belly up and/or fails to turn a profit.
So, not very viable in a market sense.
It's a shame, but fuck it. I'm spending my time getting a good degree so I have disposable income actually to buy games (rather than be poor and make them).
>>320930273
Because of our commitment to a healthy work/life balance.
>>320930349
There used to be quite a few Australian studios but almost all of them have been shut down now.
I heard most of them were born out of government tax breaks and subsidies that no longer exist and having an expensive game studio at the ass end of the world just doesn't make much sense anymore.
>>320930273
We have politicians who heavily censor games to protect the precious children
We have very loud mouthed and disappointingly effective feminist/whatever groups that censor games to protect all the precious women
Everything here is very expensive, why pay someone AUD$75000 when you can pay an American $35000?
>>320930273
whenever I see something like this all I can picture is a bunch of white guys masturbating furiously to how enriched and diverse they are. I can't seriously believe anyone in that picture actually gives a shit about diversity, especially since they came from cultures where it didn't exist in the first place
Australia already produced their magnum opus of vidya.
>>320930273
>the true face of the lucky country
>doesn't have any abos
top kek
I've got a mate who works at halfbrick and he says everyone in the industry is incompetent.
Also as someone who had to share a few electrical engineering courses with 'Bachelors in Game Development' plebes, LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE GRADUATE for 2012/2013 was an 'ideas guy' with a skill level somewhere between godawful and offensively bad.
>>320930273
too busy shitposting
>>320930773
Nah. I'm 2nd generation Aussie and I hang out with loads of migrants due to my excessive shisha habit and they fucking hate the idea of more migrants. Artificially increasing diversity through encouraged immigration, quotas etc is such a strange concept to them. Demographics are what they are, it's only the West (mainly anglosphere) that feels the need to push this shit so hard.
>>320930981
>excessive shisha habit
>>320930273
they don't need to pretend to fight giant spiders
>>320930273
>Face of Australia
>No Wogs
Malakas
>>320930981
>mainly anglosphere
Nah, all of West Europe is taken now.
>>320931265
>face of Australia
>no aborigines
One of my favorite games growing-up turned out to be Aussie-made, huh
>>320931390
>all white people
I'm glad Australia is diverse now
who /brisbane/ here?
>>320931265
>>320931380
>face of australia
>plenty asians
>>320931434
>irish woman
>white
>spaniard
>white
>italian
>white
>>320930273
>a ginger
Fucking disgusting why are they allowed.
>>320931478
they're not black or asian, so yes white
>>320930273
Well, We have a games industry. I work in it. It's small and mostly up state in QLD and NSW but it exists.
Mostly mobile phone applications and games b
>>320930273
Australia: A world without bees
>>320930273
I get a good laugh everytime someone posts prices from auscucklia
>>320930635
I don't agree.
>>320930970
Reminds me of my time at university.
I was dumb enough to do a "game development" course many years ago but was at least lucky enough to come out with a regular degree in software engineering and another in multimedia or something so no one knows my shame when applying for real jobs.
Almost everyone in this course was fucking hopeless. The maths and physics teachers were amazed at the lack of basic knowledge they found in the students. I remember one of my programming lecturers once expressing his dismay to me at how incompetent all but a few students were. Another lecturer told us that he had been warned by the faculty about the students in this course being a bunch of useless brats and he's never experienced something like that in decades of teaching all over the country. It was downright embarrassing being in this course.
Final year project were done alongside some students from some other course who will building robots or something. They put us all to shame, they were better programmers and they built robots too.
>>320931473
best city
![Z84eDVa[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/hx1Q877.png "Z84eDVa[1].png")
>>320931590
Me too :^)
I see billboard ads at the various train stations for various gaming related courses/degrees. I am still unsure what they actually teach or qualify you for. Unfortunately all this was not available back when I finished my HSC as I might have actually considered going to Uni then.
A lot of what is offered seems to be graphical though. I haven't really seen proper gaming programming orientated stuff. And like other anons said there was a big government push to make an industry here, but that has dried up.
I doubt we would ever have a proper big dev down here that could do AAA stuff. It would just be too expensive. Though I could see some decent semi-indie studios being viable if the right people could get together. There would need to be a clean up of the various courses and degrees made available though so people don't end up doing the gender studies equivalent of gaming.
>>320931716
its just a way for universities to make more money and it works. and thats why fees have to go up every year
Pandemic had development team in brisbane, having their part on a few good games
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/k1pLJft.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
CSI: Mad Men was made by Team Bondi.
>>320931716
>>320930970
I wonder if the issue is either the students being terrible or the courses not teaching things right (or not teaching anything useful at all).
>>320930273
>whites make up 92% of Australian population
>DIS IS DA FACE OF AUSTRALIA
righty-o matey, also black dudes are rare as fuck over here
>>320930273
more like the true face of sydney and no where else!
>>320930273
>Australia's true face is so diverse & tolerant
>but forgets to put any Aboriginals in
Funny
>>320930273
1. No education
2. No support from government
3. Shit net
>>320930273
There's an industry here, it's just small, lots of indies, TONS of freelancers, lots of multi-disciplinary devs who do tv/movies as well as games, lots of short term studios/contracts that'll pop up for a year to churn out stuff then dissolve until the next project.
>>320931869
>There would need to be a clean up of the various courses and degrees made available though so people don't end up doing the gender studies equivalent of gaming.
Do qualifications and certs really mean anything in the vidya industry? I thought your portfolio of recent work/mods was what people looked at.
>>320931513
>he identifies as some colour even though he's not connected to other people of that colour
>he doesn't identify as his ethnic group
>>320930273
probably because healthcare is free here so fuck getting a "job" when i can just make games and sell em, it's 2015 mate.
>nigger that isn't an abo
wat
>>320932364
That black guy is clearly African.
Have you ever seen an Abo? Huge difference.
>>320932354
Don't worry, when Australia gets as diverse as America there will be too little in-group favouritism to justify universal healthcare.
>>320931892
I know two of the guys who worked on this actually, both of them are university lecturers now.
>>320931716
I fell for it too. I feel like a fucking dunce every single time I think about it.
All I ever wanted as a kid was to make video games, animations or comics.
I wasted a year or so in that stupid course and dropped out because I finally realised how stupid it was.
If any of you are considering a gaming course, or know anyone who is considering it. Stop immediately.
>>320930635
>/pol/ shitposting
>better than anything
>>320932473
I have never seen an African in Aus.
>>320931513
I might let Italian or Spaniard slide as white but not irish.
They were/are proto-niggers
>>320930602
>Wakes up
It's fucking 9PM
>>320932247
It's similar with film. A degree is a piece of paper showing you have done courses on your subject and understand certain intricacies of what you do. Your portfolio is proof that you can do what that piece of paper says you can do. You could totally just have the portfolio and be done with it, but in many cases you wouldn't get the chance to show it or you might not understand certain fine things that affect how what you do is received or interpreted. In the end, if you're shit then you're shit, and if you're good you're good. A degree is just a certification from someone stating that you are not shit.
>>320932594
You clearly have never been in Australia.
>>320930602
>aushit wakes up
It's almost 11pm where I am, Ausfags are going to bed.
>>320930273
I'll tell you.
For most of the last decade, Australian governments have had no interest in promoting tech and innovation due to the fact that the majority of our politicians are elected by trades unions, or country folk/farmers/miners who don't give a fuck about emerging industries and have very little interest in seeing them become successful.
In a politicians mind, exporting is the only thing we need to do, Australia needs never be anything other than a fucking farm with a coal mine in the backyard.
>>320932624
Actually it's quarter to 8, you east-coast filth.
>>320932594
>never gone to woolies at 4pm and seen a dark black teenager double your height like he's on stilts
how?
>>320931998
Pretty much both, students are not expected to be more intelligent than high school dropouts and the course is dumbed down as much as they can justify.
It effectively makes it a university priced Diploma of Software Engineering.
>>320932803
hey whats that you got to do out there? oh thats right... fuck all
>>320932247
I imagine it would depend on the company that is hiring. And whether you can sell yourself in the interview. At least that is what I have found with the non-gaming market. A lot of businesses seem to list certifications as a bonus, but experience is either a must or highly preferable.
I was more thinking that they would need to clean it up so that if there are actual gaming certs they would need to be condensed down into a handful of clear concise names and outcomes. All the shit I see is all different depending on where it is being offered. The word design seems to be thrown around too much as well. I swear some are just bullshit project management style courses for ideas men. Which isn't necessarily wrong, but needs to be communicated as such so that it is clear you aren't necessarily technically proficient because of that cert.
>>320932176
>2. No support from government
The government rarely knows what it wants to do over here. Especially when it comes to technology. It wasn't that long ago they were seriously pushing to censor the internet for stupid and dubious reasons. Literally reduced to tears at one point when it was pointed out how stupid they were. And hypocritical.
Really the best support they could give the industry would be tax breaks and to leave it alone. And even then who knows because of how leadership and the parties rubberband over here.
>>320932803
>admitting to living in WA
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>320932980
My cousin once got pegged by a gorilla doing this at the zoo.
>>320932879
>>320932990
>on a board devoted to video games
>acting like it matters to any of us how active our cities are
I don't need real life when I can go on magic adventures with the Polish crocodile hunter.
>>320933034
do you know what pegged means, anon?
>>320933110
No :^)
>>320932801
>the majority of our politicians are elected by trades unions, or country folk/farmers/miners who don't give a fuck about emerging industries and have very little interest in seeing them become successful.
You mean "elected by Murdoch, who bankrolled their campaign".
eg.
>Labour's version of the NBN calls for fiber to the home (FTTH)
>good internet will naturally cripple Murdoch's Foxtel profits
>Murdoch has his media outlets shill Abbott
>based Tone gets in, scraps FTTH in lieu of FTTN (to the node) and generally sets our internet back by 50 years
I will never stop being mad.
>>320933110
>please buy this game you've never heard of
>for 12+ USD
nah mate I'm good
Until I was 5-6 I only ever knew whites, one day when I was taken to the museum for the first time to see a mother fucking T-Rex skeleton I also saw the abbo exhibit. Naturally I thought they were extinct, like the dinosaurs. Later that day I blew my little mind with the greatest archaeological find. A real live abbo! So excited I was a ran screaming to my mum saying I've found an alive abbo.
>tfw I'll never live innocently in white Australia again.
>>320933195
COPPER NBN FOR EVERYONE FOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>>320933195
>muh murdoch bogeyman
You know Murdoch backed Rudd, right?
>>320933071
If you were Australian you'd know I wasn't using it in the meaning about your sexual fetish of getting fucked in the ass by a dildo strapped to your sister.
>>320933320
Right but you're talking to the rest of the world here, princess. Try using proper English for once in your life.
>>320933312
Oh shit, David Attenborough did an AMA? Link?
>>320931473
Brisvegas represent!
>>320933365
Or try not thinking with your cock for once like a 13 year old.
le melbourne meme xD
>live in NZ
>it's literally Australia minus all the things that make Australia terrible
>>320933441
I'm sorry for not taking this discussion of poopoo seriously enough.
>>320933441
>>320933365
Protip, try to not interpret cock for cuck, as in cuckolding.
>>320933503
Yeah, fucking sheep must be great.
Enjoy your leaf for a flag, cuck.
>>320933503
isn't it even more expensive?
Hey guys, I'm hoping you can help me.
I met this really great chick in a club in Sydney the other night. We hit it off and I even managed to finger her while I was there. Unfortunately I never got her name, but I'm hoping somebody here might know her. She's a redhead, and I hear she gets around a bit.
>>320933667
>great chick
>gets around a bit
>>320933712
>Ameriburger joins the thread
Not everyone's as prudish and repressed as you insane third-worlders, mate.
>>320933667
It's probably Hex
>>320933568
Never heard that one before, m8.
>>320933582
Nope. NZ dollars are worth less than AUD and my monthy expenses are only around $1060. That includes rend, food, bills; everything.
>>320933821
thats nice but instead of shit posting on a mongolian pottery making board, maybe you should get your finger tested for STIs
>>320933503
>NZ
you mean a shitter version of australia
>>320930332
Mosty Asians on cover, nice try mate
>>320933839
lel
>>320930273
Because most the Devs jump ship to other countries as soon as they can so they can make games more easily without shit internet, cheaper to actually make them and won't have to worry about getting thrown in fined or sued or anything like that if the game is too violent or has drugs/sexual shit
Australia really isn't a very Developer friendly place to make games at
>>320933712
It's a meme ;)
>>320933667
Stephanie 'Hex' Bandixson isn't a redhead anymore m80.
>>320932019
>92%
Bullshit. All I ever see are fucking Arab scum, Asians and Indian scum.
>>320934758
Stop living in Sydney then ;)
>>320934857
How do I buy a house somewhere else on Centrelink payments?
>>320934905
Sell your ass ;)
>>320934967
But homosexuals only exist in Melbourne.
>>320935019
"Be the change you want to see in the world"
-Martin Luther King Jr., 1970
>>320935019
Rude :(
