>Hey, Ike. I'm completely invincible unless you hit me with that sword you got from your dead dad that you never tried using for some reason even though its clearly better than any other weapon you can possibly use
This game is alot stupider than I remember.
>>320859565
You have shit memory, then. I'll never forgive PoR for this fucker - his boss fight is LITERALLY RNG, in a goddamn strategy game. Even with completely maxed stats, it comes down to having to win two out of three 66% dice throws - with the penalty for losing being replaying an entire non-cakewalk map.
It's so heinous that Ike's growths are necessarily the most broken in the series, if he wasn't an OP fucker it'd be even less fair.
>>320859991
>You have shit memory, then
Youre just making the game sound even worse.
>>320859991
I'm pretty sure you can bring Mist on this map if you still have her, so you can just heal Ike with a physics staff every turn.
>>320860374
The Black knight can out damage her heals if he activates luna enough times, and if Ike never gets off an aether you cant win.
>>320859991
>66% dice throws
? You just have to hope that you have aether and Luna doesn't go off. Hell, give Ike Miracle, and you have even less of a chance of dying. AND you can bring Mist.
>>320860539
You cant equip ike with miracle and aether at the same time.
>>320860462
>The Black knight can out damage her heals
Are you sure? I haven't played in forever but I remember that any moderately leveled healer would heal units to full almost every time. Looking up the formula it's magic+10, and for the mend staff it's magic+20, and Mist has a 50% magic growth rate and starts at level 1. So a level 20 promoted Mist should have an average of 24 magic (20+base of 4) for heals of 34 or 44. Plus there's a time limit on the map so he won't kill you before time is up as long as you keep healing.
>>320860539
Aether has, what, like 30% chance of activating? Whatever Ike's max skill is, somewhere in the 30 range. You get two hits off each time, and are limited to...five turns, I think it was? So 10 hits total. You need to land at least 2 of those, possibly three of em, while also praying the DK doesn't hit Luna more than once (maaaaybe manage twice, I'm hardly being exact here). Comparable chances there, too.
It works out to being SLIGHTLY in your favor, if you do have said max stats. You cannot do anything to affect it further than that. Absolute bullshit in an otherwise excellent SRPG.
Basically
Is this the general/Tellius FE thread? I had to filter a bunch of shit due to people being mad as fuck about Corrin/Kamui (understandably).
>>320861205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1qKZN55GWQ
3:20. Luna fucks you up, gives you a deficit of ~5-10 hp, dependent on how min-maxed you and mist are. With mend, anyway, not sure about the availability of better staffs for her in that game.
>>320862323
E; though admittedly their mist is underleveled AF. If you've raised her good and proper, you probably don't have to worry about dying, aye.
I'm planning on attempting a maniac mode ironman run someday so it's a good thing you reminded me of this. Do you need luck to SURVIVE the battle or just to win?
>>320862639
You need luck to win. Just surviving is easier.
>>320859565
Anyone else /1turnman/ this fucker?
>first turn, AETHER
>he retorts
>MISS
>LOLWUT.jpg
>Ike's 2nd attack, CRIT
>Burger King's turn, OSHITLUNA
>mfw Ike x2 Aethers and heals back up to full while BK dies
>>320859565
I'd honestly rank Ike's games among the worst of the series. People only like them because of Ike. The story, bosses and animations are trash.
>>320863691
Your preferences then? Legitimate question, you seem like an intelligent FE player who didn't just hop on the Ikewagon when Brawl dropped.
>>320863691
Gameplay mechanics and level design are the most important things and Ike's games excel in those aspects.
As for story, FE9 may be bad but it's not as bad as the rest of the series.
Not sure what your issue with bosses is, I thought both of the final bosses were the best in the series.
Animations are subpar in FE9 (they're much improved in FE10) but I don't play with animations on anyway.
>>320864071
FE4, and FE7 are my favorites. Have yet to play FE5
I hope FE14 is good but after 13 and seeing the "new" FE fanbase being pathetic weebs who only care about fan service instead of gameplay I don't have much hope left.
>>320863691
You're a retard. Both 9 and 10 have the beat maps and game play in the series.
>>320864385
I've been hearing that Nohr is true to form, but Hoshido is Awakening: Reloaded The Re-Up.
>>320864385
Fuck FE14. It looks like FE13-2 to me. The only saving grace I can think of is that they can maybe not completely botch the supports, but I doubt it.
You should get on 5, you probably won't like it more than 4 or 7, but it's solid as fuck. It's probably my third favorite one.
>>320864403
>I've never played FE4
I mean 10 is probably one of my top games, but you're kidding yourself if you think they're better than 4.
>>320864385
I played a bit of the Hoshido path. The new weapon triangle, the new pair up system and the debuffs really spice up things. The few maps I saw were not as flat as Awakening's, too.
>>320864385
>FE7
Good taste, it was my first and will always be my favorite. What I like about it is that its actually hard if you don't know what you're doing. I'll admit I had to savescum-grind at one of the arenas in my most recent playthrough, some charactersfucking Ninoare just hard to lvl naturally.
>>320865103
Grandpa please go. Big open fields that make only horse units valuable are not that great.
>>320865103
He didn't say they're better than 4 as a whole (though they are). Either way, 4's maps and gameplay are subpar so he's not wrong.
>>320859991
>ike's growth stats
I don't know. He seemed pretty bad to me.
>>320863480
Ike can't crit against BK unless it's a Wrath crit, you lying nigger.
>Ike confronts the Black Knight
>"My father only lost because he slashed his arm tendons so he could never use a sword again"
>Black Knight responds: "He slashed his arms so he couldn't use a sword... only to then pickup an ax?"
>BK: "I'm wiping your genepool's retardation from the face of the Earth now"
FE stories are shit tier. This is well known to anyone that's not SLOW
>>320865103
>Genealogy's maps
>Good
Look, I love Genealogy as much as the next guy, but it's maps were as open as Awakening's. The only times you weren't just following a Road were, like, the two Desert chapters and the part of that one chapter where you get Briggid
>>320865352
It might have been an 8ther, mb. It was years ago on my actual GC so details are fuzzy.
I swear though, after 2 restarts the RNGods did my a favor and made Ike into Saitama. It was beautiful.
>>320865795
That map was literally go to one side of the map then the other then back to the first side.
>>320865991
Chapter 3 of FE4? Go north, go west, Eltshan, seize west castle, seize north castle, rush north, protect Brigid, Claud, and Teeny. I thought it was a pretty cool map.
>>320865608
Look, I'm not gonna claim that the story in the Tellius games was anything more than OK, but at least be accurate about it
He slashes the tendons in his dominant hand, and switches from swords to axes so that if he ever goes berserk again, he'll be much easier to stop.
And I think Volke only agreed to the job of killing him after he crippled himself.
>>320861330
Ike isn't going to have anywhere near max skill by the BK fight.
>>320862639
You can just run away on the first turn.
>>320861330
>Excellent SRPG
Pls go play some SRPG's if you think babby-easy tier shit is good. RDawn's a step in the right direction.
I don't know how people can bitch about the NiggerNight fight when there's far more glaring weaknesses in PoR's overall gameplay.
>>320865141
You get Nino after all the regular arenas. Only area that Nino can use is in the map that ends in like 4 turns.
>>320859565
>face down the black knight
>other soldiers to fight instead
>little sister shows up to heal you
>all those other soldiers circle around ike and kill her off within a single turn
She kept dying so quickly I had to send her to the exit, stock up on healing items and do the fucking thing with ike alone
>>320859991
>Ike's growths are necessarily the most broken in the series
Ike's growths aren't even the best in the game. It's probably not even top ten. Ike's growths are basically the same as Mordecai and Stefan's, and Shinon and Sothe's growths blow Ike's growth rates away.
>>320865141
>tfw remembering you managed to max Nino and she obliterated Limestella
>>320867683
Should have trained mist. She is the reason the sonic sword exists
>>320868080
>should have poured literally 1000 exp into Mist so she can kill 10 enemies with the Sonic sword that someone like Tanith, Mia or even Ike can use to great effects
>>320859565
Ainz?
>>320868131
Well then don't bitch about her dying nigga it's your own damn fault.
>>320867379
Pls list some good SRPGs.
>>320860462
>If he activates luna
Why do you think Ike fucking gets Nihil on promotion?
>>320868131
>WHY IS MIST SO WEAK
>well if you train her-
>FUCK THAT I DON'T WANT TO TRAIN HER
?_?
>>320868751
In PoR, m8?
>>320868751
But he doesnt.
>>320868852
>>320868931
I thougt it was PoR.
Altough in RD I never had troble on the Ike frond during that fight, he's just too good.
>People will defend Staffsluts
You know its not your slut thats important but whatever staff she's using, anybody can do it
>>320869058
You don't have trouble in that fight because the BK is just not that strong in RD. Ike isn't even a top ten unit at that point.
>>320869058
Burger King is piss easy in RD. Especially if you give Ike a Hammer.
>>320869146
I don't care, I'd much rather it was Mist who staff~ staff~ me than someone like Wrys.
>>320859991
the whole series is RNG based. There's zero strategy involved ever despite what Nintendo fags will tell you
>>320869146
>Not wanting a qt3.14 to be the one who mends your wounds
Fag.
>>320869734
Mist a shit I bet she can't even use the Ragnell
>>320870131
She can use the Alondite by the time she's grown up in RD though. I bet she can use the Ragnell but Ike doesn't want to share.
>>320859565
Didnt Ike's father willingly fight him with an axe knowing you can only damage him with that sword (which he had)?
>>320870415
I think BK actually gives him the Ragnell.
>>320869989
>Defending staffsluts
Think with your head not your dick, or your dickhead.
>Dancers will never not be sluts ever again
>No bards
>>320862070
I'd fuck them both. I'm not even gay.
>>320870415
Urvan was a legendary weapon and Greil had suffered a tendon injury and thus even if he had used Ragnell which the Burger King threw to him he would not have been able to beat the Burger King. If only Greil had bought a Hammer instead.
>>320871548
Effective damage is only x2 in PoR so a hammer would've been worse than the Urvan. 2 better Mt but much worse hit.
