Par13t teH PeNgU1N oF d00m is a cute
Did anybody manage to patch back the voices anyway? I don't want to get too far into the game because I'm still waiting for it
>>320847740
What game?
>>320847941
Summon Night 5
It's out already? How does it run on ppsspp?
>Audio removed entirely outside of battle
>Tried to hide this until the game released
>Took non-refundable pre-orders before mentioning that there wouldn't be any voice acting
>Victor Ireland in charge of Gaijinworks
>Complete rewrite localisation with plenty of errors in the script
>European release delayed until February, wasn't mentioned until the day of the American release
>Bonus costumes removed from localisation
>Game crashing skills, save file may crash when trying to acquire a new skill which completely blocks progression
Reminder not to give Gaijinworks money.
http://nicoblog.org/psp/iso/summon-night-5-usa/
Link.
I'm waiting for the voices, too. Does anyone know if there is someone working on it? Summon Night is kind of niche so I'm worried no one is going to bother. After all, it took a couple of random anons on 4chan to get the ISO (thanks for that). If you guys know where ROM hacking wizards usually hang around, please let them know about this game.
Boss Sis BEST GIRL
I'm already more interested in 6.
>>320848217
>Took out all voice work in general
Why the fuck would you support them doing this shit? Because all it does is support them doing it again if they would bring over 6. Just import the game game in general.
>>320849787
It looks interesting.
>>320849872
If I could read japanese I'd import it. I just want to play it without getting involved in drama
Somebody will put the voices back sooner or later.
How is the localization? Is it actually good?
>>320850336
Nope, it's memetastic
>>320850336
its full of memes and complete rewrites of dialogue instead of translations.
>>320850787
>>320850793
Examples?
![original[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kbK4tT9.jpg "original[1].jpg")
>>320850897
I'm just gonna add it onto the post now, it got buried in the Comments
>>320850336
>>320849213
Mah nigga
>>320851161
That's more nitpicking than anything. Was in the thread where people started and that was literally the best people came up with.
>>320850249
Unless you pirated it in the first place, you still supported this kind of release even being a thing in the first place. Anyone that did support this really does deserve every bit of these terrible releases we get completely.
>>320851529
>and that was literally the best people came up with.
More like the first thing people bothered to come up with.
>>320849872
They couldn't afford the Japanese voice acting, jackass. Licensing that shit isn't cheap.
>>320851529
I haven't actually played it since I'm doing Yakuza 5 and Super Mystery Dungeon.
I'll upload the Undub ISO if you guys provide a DL link, any filehost works, I use debriders.
I'm no pedo but Cyda is literally best girl.Her real body is pure sex
>>320851607
I just want to play it, dude
>>320851737
True but also no one had any really good complaints. The only other thing is a person near the beginning sounded stale if I remember right.
>>320851990
Her cursed body is better.
>>320852186
Only if you like shit like that. Still Boss Sis is best grill.You pedo
>>320852370
She likes her cursed form too.
>>320851529
Completely changing the characters speech and making him a pansy is nitpicky?
>>320848393
>>Tried to hide this until the game released
Again, false. I preordered this, and it was discussed in the interest checking phase.
>>320851161
Jesus it's like they hired Commie to do rewrites.
>>320848393
sounds like a typical Victor Ireland disaster
Is this game available on the PS store?
It's giving error for me on theBRstore so I assume they didn't bother to put it for sale to us like the DJ max devs ignored my region so I won't bother to give them money either through other means.
>>320852972
It's not on sale on hue store. It is stated so in their site.
>>320851529
Listen here nigger especially with how Japs write characters often times their type of speech is a defining trait of their character. There is no need to add dialogue like that you are basically changing the character, especially since their are no voices. You are altering the intent of the original creator which is what the people that would even buy these games want in the first place.
>>320852972
He's not the developer, he can't just dump on any region he pleases. It's currently just on the US PSN, you can buy codes for it off eBay for $25 or less
>>320852972
Or you can just...pirate it.
PSP CFW is even easier than rooting.
>>320853189
Really, I bought this, did you? Why are you speaking for me?
I don't understand any Japanese outside of baka desu senpai. So I don't give a single fuck that the Japanese audio was cut, or what the original version said. If I understood any of that i wouldn't need to buy an English version
>>320853189
To me that's nitpicky. I'm just wondering if there is any pop culture jokes and other oddity that Ireland is known for. Just a different in speaking isn't enough to piss me off.
>>320851872
>companies have to spend money to produce quality products
STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES
>>320851161
This isn't that bad, the rewrite implies he wants to fight and as for the original... it's bland and matter of fact.
I think if you idolize something like japanese games and the people who localize them you want them to be more serious, more perfect. That's natural if you're young but it does point to some insecurity.
>>320851161
This is...the power of localizations....holyshit
IT TRULY OKAY WHEN NINTENDO DOES IT
>>320853625
And they pre-polled their fans to see what kind of sales they could hit. And told everybody what they could and couldn't include with specific sales targets.
>>320853520
You payed for a game and instead you got a fanfic write faggot script, if you are ok with this it's not my problem but it doesn't change the fact that you payed for shit product and is defending it as if it was a good thing. People have all the rights to complain about this, it's chinese bootleg levels of bullshit.
>>320854027
You haven't actually played this. At least pirate the game before you want to shitpost
>Was excited for Summon Night
>Was excited for Xenoblade X
>Was excited for Fire Emblem Fates
>Was excited for SMTxFE
You can't get excited about jrpgs in the west anymore, they just ruin them
>>320848332
Runs fine for me. Some other anon was complaining in a previous thread that he was getting some delay and audio lag but I haven't experienced either. I'm running it on a laptop that isn't particularly powerful too.
>>320850897
Don't have a screen on me but there's a part later where a character is describing a girl and uses a bunch of 60s ligo and slang to basically call her hot. Sounds really out of place of course. Other than that the dialogue has a really stiff flow to it that makes some conversations seem unnatural. Characters will suddenly jump from one subject to the next with no lead-in which kind of ruins the flow.
If you want to play it I'd say just suck it up and play it, though I really can't justify paying $30 for an old ass PSP game without voices. Hopefully someone with an actual budget will bring 6 over.
>>320854330
I don't need to play, if they can't even translate おっと right i don't need more to know their work is shit.
>>320854396
>Muh grorious Nippon
>>320854396
You're stupid for getting hyped for the shit people are talking about. It's fine to like things, but I haven't gone into a game in years and been disappointed, because I don't over expect things. Christ, if you give Time and Eternity a fair chance it's not a bad game. Expectations are the problem.
>>320854539
Oh yeah forgot to mention there's a potentially gamebreaking bug that may happen at random that fucks your save file and prevents you from learning new skills. They're apparently working on a fix though.
>>320854770
>night talking with your cross
MAXIMUM PLEB
>>320854539
>Hopefully someone with an actual budget will bring 6 over.
That ain't happening. Nobody cares. If this low budget release doesn't break even, less than nobody will care.
>>320854975
I'm using save states so I can pick all of them and go with the one I like the most.
>>320854770Is there any gay petting?
>>320855083
for 30 bucks, I wonder why....
>muh operating costs
then downside into your parent's basement. Gaiginwork's translations are always shit, regardless. No one will care if it takes an extra year to finish a game
>>320855235
Not with your summon, no.
All the summons treat the MC like their older brother/sister. And not in a "I want to fuck nee-san!" way. They just really look up to you and there's barely any romantic tension if any at all.
Might be some gay stuff with the other male party members. I think someone said one of the endings is kind of homo.
>>320855308
>Snarky contrarian /v/tards who don't realize they're a very small part of the gaming community won't care if it takes an extra year to finish a game
Releasing a PSP game in late 2016 isn't exactly smart from a business standpoint - even if the Vita is backwards compatible.
>>320847740
>Summon Night 5
well i was gonna buy it for ps vita but,
>31$
Na senpai.
>>320855308
>for 30 bucks, I wonder why....
$30 is a fine price for a new release. Don't pretend like that's a crazy price for a videogame. If you're not a poorfag it's really nothing. And I'm sure the game will go on sale at some point
>not deciding to take Excela and Veloce as your daughters and raising them as proper ladies.
Honestly, what's wrong with you?
>>320855581
Even the Vita is dead at this point. I'm sure that's why the game was released with a few bugs, every day it would be delayed would cost sales
>>320855895
I'll think about it.
>>320855423
Alright I'll look into it. Thanks.
>>320855895
How do I get them?
>>320848878
Working on it. Seems to be going well enough. Might be done in a week, or 3 if I spend too much time beating off
Is the iso ripped already? All I see is the japanese rips when I google.
>>320853698
Kill yourself, cancer killing dragon quest.
>>320858338
Look near the top of the thread.
>>320858338
mega:///#!UAIl0T6R!5V7R1CmN6lJDvdf3wVeDezMc1FlPgRmQpHnlRUh2Zes
>>320858338
Yes someone did it hell I even posted the link.
See.>>320848482
>>320858549
>>320858556
>>320858580
Ah gotcha. Thank you. Much appreciated.
>>320857324
Awesome, thanks a lot!
>>320858556
how would one download via this link?
>>320859365
Click "Download through your browser"
>>320859365
right next to mega fucking
mega.nz
then the rest. you assfaggot
>>320859621
he means how does he get to the download first off.
Simple copy / pasting in browser doesn't like
>>320859365
>>320859621
>this level of spoonfeeding
>>320852178
>The only other thing is a person near the beginning sounded stale if I remember right.
You didn't finish reading the thread. The entire thing reads poorly. There's no flow from one line to the next, and characters speak in completely unnatural manners. It reads like it's a Japanese-made translation with a polished editing run.
>>320859324
Keep in mind, there are some changes to the dialogue flow. And I don't understand Japanese, so I'm just saying fuck it and rolling over it. As long as the right persons voice is speaking it's good enough, the translation doesn't match anyways
>>320860891
>with a polished editing run.
Actually, I shouldn't even say that given how many fuckups in the text there are. It just reads badly all around.
Here's the game's manual in case anyone is interested:
http://www.gaijinworks.com/OnlineManuals/SN5/SummonNight5_USA.pdf
>>320857324
Might want to wait a bit. This game will most likely get a bug fix patch and you don't want multiple versions of an ISO running around the net.
>>320853698
As someone else said, simple rewrites are what seperates Scream from Scary Movie.
Also go fuck yourself.
>>320851161
>First translation is autistic robo-speak
>Second is at least amusing
If you like the first, you're a tremendous faggot.
>>320863526
>Japanese is autistic robo-speak
>>320863665
It is, actually.
>>320851161
Any game that is "localized" instead of "translated" is advertising that it has been tampered with and altered for your region.
The whole point of localization is to change the product to make it appeal more to the area that it's being sold in. In the US this means removing anything sexual. In Germany it means removing any references to WW2 or Nazism. In Saudi Arabia it means removing any jokes at the expense of religious figures. It's all about modifying the product for more money.
>>320863665
Yeah, it is. Learn a little about the culture you idolize.
>>320864095
>>320863941
So naturally the autistic robo-speak translation is what should be used to be faithful to the original.
>>320848393
>Complete rewrite localisation with plenty of errors in the script
I had no idea that this type of thing still happened.
>>320864273
For a few years, it didn't. Then Victor Ireland came back.
>>320862843
Don't care. This won't be perfect anyways. Anyone that wants perfection should make a fan-translation
>>320853698
>This isn't that bad, the rewrite implies he wants to fight and as for the original... it's bland and matter of fact.
Maybe the character was supposed to react blandly and not like a giant parody of himself?
>>320864273
You've never seen a complete rewrite.
>>320863526
Hi Vic. What's the ETA on the patch that will fix the skill acquire bug?
>>320848393
>>320864273
I don't even know why this is an enticing business model for these companies. Surely just translating the work as written will save them hundreds of thousands of dollars over hiring their own writing staff to translate, then rewrite most of the dialogue in the game.
They have to actually go out of their way to put more effort into ruining the games they work on.
>>320863941
>>320864095
I'd appreciate if you'd stop posting vic and actually learn Japanese before trying to localize a game.
>>320864236
If the original is shit, I see no reason not to improve it during the localization.
>>320864441
It wasn't hard to find one. It's already in this very thread.
>>320851161
>>320864648
I'm simply reminding you that nipponese is a socially retarded language.
>>320864273
>>320864696
That's the exception not the rule anon.
>>320864949
I don't agree with the XSeed one.
Every single game I've played had good translations, and rarely see people complain about them, except for Akiba's Trip.
>>320864949
>Bandai Namco
>>320864696
EBA is more like a romhack than a rewrite, they basically took the entire game and changed everything but the gameplay, including the characters and stories.
>>320865075
>>320864696
And it's not even the same thing, since it's an entirely new game made specifically for North America by the original developer. Not a localization job by a third party company.
>>320865204
That image isn't saying they're bad, it's just saying that they're liberal. They do make an earnest effort to preserve the tone, unlike NoA or Gaijinworks, but they're undoubtedly very liberal and they don't preserve the actual dialogue.
Whether they're good or bad depends on your preference for liberal or literal translations but as far as liberal localisation studios go they're probably the best.
>>320864949
Should add Working Designs to this.
>>320865204
Xseed is liberal as fuck. I mean I actually like Xseeds but it really isn't what people here call a "translation"
Honestly no localization team nowadays has been a translation. The problem is that Japanese games has it's own pop culture and puns and honorifics that doesn't work well over here. Hell outside of their shitty censoring I actually love NoA localization. They are actually really good are dumb funny puns and weird word plays. Play nearly ever Mario RPG and you can see that they are actually pretty good at what they do.
>>320865583
That would be redundant.
>>320865742
Oh fuck, that's right, Gaijinworks is their successor, aren't they?
>>320864949
>persona 3/4 = all of Atlus USA's localizations
ok
>>320865204
I like Xseed too but they aren't perfect. They're known to translate things in the spirit of the original but still sometimes end up changing it to the point where it loses a lot of meaning or actually misses the point.
Translating "Itadakimasu" as "rub a dub dub thanks for the grub!" is one example, but a worse offense to me would be how they handled Ryoubi in the SV localization. In the original she's described as a sadist that likes insulting others, but her overall personality is really snarky with a lot of under-handed and demeaning insults. Instead of making her subtle but sarcastic, Xseed went really overboard with the "sadist" bit and had her start cussing a lot and being super abrasive. The idea was the same but at the same time ended up being vastly different from her original portrayal.
>>320864696
>Ouendan sells like shit in Japan
>Japanese only release with better international sales level shit
>hmm the Americans really like Ouendan, lets completely remake the game and release it in the US with localized songs
>they do this and it sells like shit in the US
>BUT HOLY SHIT IT SELLS LIKE HOTCAKES IN JAPAN
>WE SHOULD MAKE ANOTHER OUENDAN GAME
>this one sells like shit just in general
How does this happen?
>>320865843
>An image that takes a bit of truth and extrapolates for laughs doesn't accurately reflect this company's entire 20+ year history
ok
>>320865831
Yep.
>>320865892
Maybe they should have made another EBA game just to continue observing this strange phenomenon.
>>320865892
Japs have shit taste in music.
>>320865831
Only really Vic but he was the biggest guy at Working Designs. And personally back in the 90's Working Designs was actually really good. Compare nearly every RPG coming here back then to Working Designs and you would have been an honest attempt. Yeah they had shitty jokes and weird pop culture jokes but I still found them funny. Also the outtakes were amazing
>>320865946
I get that, but people keep posting that pic as if it does represent each company's localization quality.
>>320866138
Because it's for the recent shit, dumbass.
>stella glow translation is almost perfect (perfect when paired with undub)
>this comes out
WHY
>>320866138
It does though. I just explained how it does represent Xseed. People interpreting it as good or bad is their own preferences speaking.
>>320865892
The problem is that the cover songs were just bad here. I love EBA but there was times I just had to grit my teeth with shit like "Skater Boy" and other songs. I wonder how the game would sell if they just gave us the Japanese version.
>>320866092
>And personally back in the 90's Working Designs was actually really good.
No they weren't, Vic.
>>320866357
The songs were appropriate to the stories they told.
Wasn't that bad.
>>320863992
>The whole point of localization is to change the product to make it appeal more to the area that it's being sold in.
Shitty dialog like "giving daddy a headache and making him cranky" appeals to you? Damn, the west is fucked.
Dyth > Pariet > Spinel > Kagerou
>>320866651
Cool muffler.
>>320866463
I just really hate the cover version. I get they were appropriate but fuck me I really hated some of those songs.
>>320866451
Yeah they were. The only one that actually compare is Ted Woolsey and you can not say he fucked around with the localization. Lunar and other games of theirs are still perfectly playable and outside of some cringy lines are actually funny.
>>320866752
>Lunar and other games of theirs are still perfectly playable and outside of some cringy lines are actually funny.
You could say the same thing about Summon Night 5. But you wouldn't because your nostalgia goggles haven't kicked in yet.
>>320866215
Then the ones on Atlus, Xseed and NoE are wrong.
How common is the skill acquire bug that fucks up your save? Should I wait until it's fixed before playing this?
>>320866906
Nigga u fanboyin.
Victor blacklisted a magazine because they said the Lunar translation was shit back in the day.
>Pick FemMC with Spinel by accident
>Turns into a cute angel girl years later
I'm in chapter 6 in normal and for whatever the fuck reason, things are hard but then I realized I can repeat some quest for some exp. I was hell under leveled.
Also why is Wolf monk guy a shit? Green head is a bit meh with his shitty bomb skill and dumb rod
>>320851161
>BUGGERS?
>->SARCASTIC
>HATE BUGGERS
>BUGGERS ARE OKAY
>>320867838
>Wolf monk guy a shit
Use him for his amazing debuffs against bosses or giant enemies.
>>320867321
Completely random, but common enough for them to acknowledge it as a problem and work to patch it.
If you're playing on an emulator I'd just save state often/make multiple save files. Once it happens on a file then it's fucked from that point on but reloading a back-up save may save you.
>>320868031
>LOVE BUGGERING
>>320866752
>I just really hate the cover version. I get they were appropriate but fuck me I really hated some of those songs.
Well, it made sense to me, since your team was performing those versions of the song it wouldn't make sense if you have Avril Lavigne's vocals out of nowhere.
>>320867838
>I can repeat some quest for some exp. I was hell under leveled.
Haven't played the game yet, but how exactly are you "underlevelled"? I thought this was one of those SRPGs where you go from story battle to story battle. Are you just bad at the game or does it not offer a lot of options for strategy so you're fucked regardless?
>>320868045
Gotcha. I'm mostly use Arca, Spinel, Abert, Cyda and Yeng.
>>320867710
No I just think it misrepresents them for the sake of shitty jokes. I'd be funnier and more accurate if the NoE one was just like the NoA one but without the memes for example.
>>320868374
But NoE just put different memes in instead. The NoE one is obviously a reference to Xenoblade.
>>320868320
Do try to use his debuff next time. I did 200 damage against the giant robot (I think it was chapter 4) with his debuff + Protag using Pariet's mace.
>>320868374
Nigga u fanboying and you don't even realize it.
What games has NoE translated recently aside from Xenoblade Chronicles, and how exactly is that not a reference to Xenoblade's British accents?
>>320868319
You can actually get fucked pretty easily if you're not careful. Enemies hit pretty hard early on for the amount of health you have, and there's a chance they can counterattack any physical damage even if you attack from behind. The enemy AI also makes it a point to go for back attacks, which do more damage, and will target characters with the lowest defense/health.
It's not hard, but so far it hasn't been faceroll tier either. Each mission also has bonus objectives you can complete for extra rewards/challenge and some of them are a bitch to complete without the right skills/set-up.
>>320868319
I thought the same till I reached the boat whatever the fuck mission where I need to beat up a dumb guy who kept summoning monsters and after that in succession I had to fight some mobsters.
The 2nd round got me banging my head on the wall because I wanted to keep everyone alive for the exp but even me being precautios after X turn the enemies started moving even me being out of range and got overwhelmed. They did WAY too much dmg to me and Arca was lvl 4 at that point while a few on 6-7
>>320868615
The extra objective to defeat the crime boss is insane. He is level 22 while everyone else is 12.
