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>>320838593
ON THE EDGE
>>320838663
OF THE CRATER
>>320838726
LIKE THE PROPHETS ONCE SAID
GUILTY
>>320838593
What was the significance of the red arm? Was it just for the "you might not recognize me because of my arm" joke?
>>320838798
>No Lightsaber training
>Not a jedi
>Somehow able to wield a lightsaber and defeat an enemy trained in their own weapon discipline
>>320839059
>trying to make sense of neo-Star Wars
>>320839059
>defeat
confirmed for not seeing the movie which mean you never know kylo green kill his father hans solo
what the fuck is with that arm
>we want the hellboy audience
YOUR
PRETTY
GUILTY
>>320839059
Makes me wonder, what that a weapon specially made for fighting lightsabersif so, why? jedi and sith were gone after defeating sidious, werent they?or just riot shock batons?
>>320839059
Finn his shit kicked by TR-8R trooper, Finn only kills a single Stormtrooper with the lightsaber in the entire movie, and it was by complete accident
>>320839140
I mean the fact that he doesn't instantly slice his hand off because the blade has no weight and then get killed by TR-8R. Also, it's Ren not Green.
>>320839059
>only a Jedi can hold a lightsaber
There's that meme again...
>>320838593
Why the fuck is his arm red?
is itVENOM SNAKE?
>>320839059
Finn loses this fight, based TRAITOR trooper gets shot
>>320839049
This. They made a deal about the arm and then...never fucking explained it. They couldn't be stupid enough to be waiting another movie to reveal why could they?
>>320839267
Don't worry just like games, /v/ hasn't watched the movies only read about them.
>>320839059
TRAITOR would have wiped the floor with him but of course le old mentor has to show up and save fn-2817
>>320839253
>because the blade has no weight
That's EU bullshit and has been retconned. Lightsaber isn't actually light, it does have weight. Han wielded a lightsaber no problem in Empire and Luke wasn't exactly a Jedi in ANH when he first wielded one either.
>Stormtroopers are competent
>their commander gives up and DIRECTLY CAUSES THE DEFEAT OF HER FACTION BECAUSE SHE GOT HELD UP BY A SENILE OLD MAN A KNEE GROWTH WHO TURNED HIS BACK TO HER FOR 10 SECONDS AND A WOOKIE THAT WAS WATCHING THE DOOR
she deserved to be literally thrown into the trash
>>320839447
Alright then, I'm stupid. Disregard everything I said.
>>320839253
It would take an absolute retard to chop your own hand off immediately while trying out very basic swings with a sword-like weapon. He also gets his ass kicked by the guy. He's also a Storm trooper, can you be 100% sure he didn't have melee weapon training during combat training?
>>320839059
You dont need training to be good with lightsabers anymore, as long as you pick one up the force will channel through you and you'll be a great lightsaber user.
>>320839208
Taliban don't have tanks, but US troops still carry anti tank missiles with them.
It never hurts to be ready for any situation, you never know when some wannabe with a old lightsaber is going to come out the woodwork, or even worse, a jedi survivor that no-one knew about.
>>320839525
>woman soldier
what else would you expect?
>>320839059
TR-8R beat Finns ass, though
>>320839576
>the stormtrooper finn fought was actually his stormtrooper mentor who taught him CQC
>TRAITOR was in reference to their relationship, not the new order
>>320839525
She was pretty bangin tho
Would fug only if she kept the armor on
>>320839525
Was she hot tho?
>>320839253
True it doesn't have weight but it does have a weird inertia when using it. So the way he was fighting with the saber made sense since he was having trouble keeping it going in more fluid motions.
>>320839208
Might be just a generic riot baton. He had a shield too that he threw away.
And they were trying to find and capture Luke so they might have had anti-jedi gear just in case.
>>320839525
She should have been the one to have that duel with finn instead of TR-8R. Why the hell did they waste all the hype promoting her when she doesn't do shit? She was a perfect stormtrooper captain though, just wish she did more.
I get they're trying to make her the new Boba and he similarly got punked but that was one of the major criticisms of the OT, they shouldn't replicate that just because that's how the old movies did it.
>>320839762
>>320839780
>thirst-mind
>>320839385
I don't think it has any significance.
What else should it be than a different arm?
>>320839649
The Taliban had plenty of Soviet tanks, you can't guarantee they've all 100% been destroyed. Would you want to send your soldiers to fight an enemy who could still have tanks, without AT weaponry?
Taliban =/= Al Qaeda
>>320839787
Try swinging around a flashlight with the light on, it's not fucking hard
>>320839525
anyone got the this is your home now edit
>>320839802
Vibrostaff or something akin to it basically; they're the only weapons in the EU known to be able to deflect Lightsabers, and Electricity in general is the one way to fuck a Jedi up and disrupt their connection to the force.
I wonder Ysalamiri will still be a thing now that EU is mostly non-canon.I really fucking hope the Yuuzhan Vong get used eventually
Anyone happy that the new star wars movie is the best star wars movie ever made so far?
Everyone agrees that it's objectively better than the original trilogy in every single way and we still have 2 more movies to go
>>320839049
It was a joke. He used to have a silver leg, too
I'M NUCLEAR
>>320839872
The story behind -why- it's red now; did he lose it? is there meaning to why it's red? is it painted or just a replacement? Did he not let the wookiee win, and it was pulled out to use as a bludgeon?
>>320840014
>strong womyn as protagonist
>nigger
>better
>>320839907
That's not at all how a lightsaber works. Think of it more like holding a giant magnetic rod in a metal room and you are tying not to let it fly out of your hands.
>>320839525
>wear armor
>oh no! they gonna shoot me!
i am guessing all storm trooper as idiot as finn because they lack real battle from birth
>>320840014
>best ever made
It's an episode 4 remake. It's just not literal shit compared to 1-3 so everyone is happy.
>>320838593
>>320839049
>>320839385
I think it's the same arm, except just really rusty for whatever reason
>>320840076
Buy the comics and cartoons, goy.
How many times have the jedi been wiped out?
>>320840140
It's better written than episode 4 and fixes all the problems the original had.
>>320839986
>Yuuzhan Vong
Please no.
>>320840112
Sorry pops, EU explanations of lightsabers are now non-canon.
>>320839780
Didn't take the helmet off for the entire movie. But you hear her voice though. Wich sounds kinda cool with that filter.
>>320840207
I think the film is great and better than return of the jedi but c'mon, there were a few problems too. Mainly the fact that Rey was a gigantic mary sue and there were a few too many convenient coincidences.
Also captain phasma was completely wasted as a character.
>>320840138
The armor does nothing, the stormtroopers die just as easily as the peasants in rags at the start.
>>320839059
its basically a glowing sword. Implying the storm troopers who have been raised for battle dont get melee weapon training. In fact the storm trooper with the shock baton clearly has some training with it so why the fuck wouldn't Finn have the same training.
Thats like saying training with 1 gun means you can only wield that 1 and only gun. Im sure you could give it a good fucking go with any other gun since they're all pretty similar.
>>320839049
>>320839385
Guys, guys, there'll be a spinoff movie all about it in some years, just you wait.
>>320840112
How the fuck do you think that's how it works?
>>320839867
>implying you don't love a woman in uniform
>>320839059
>>320839115
>>320839267
>>320839635
>>320840319
Finn is actually force-sensitive
He was the only one the breakthrough an entire life of conditioning you know.
>>320840306
>mary sue
You don't know what that word means, Luke was a bigger mary sue than Rey and Rey is actually better written than Luke so far, not to mention this is only part 1 of a trilogy and they've already done a lot to explain her abilities in the movie. It's sad because of retards like you that they have to dumb down movies and explain every single thing.
>>320840274
Just learn to accept it anon. There's no way they can leave that kind of story idea alone forever. Extra-galactic invaders with Living Tech and Ships? Maybe once this trilogy is over, or one of the spinoff movies, since fucking boring pilots are getting their movie next year.
>>320840169
not to mention it comes out in february
>theres at least one person who cannot wait to read that they simply used the wrong paint.
>>320840383
>implying you don't love a 2m amazon in uniform
fixd
>>320839986
Cortosis among other metals can repel lightsabers as well. Not just Vibro weapons
>>320840284
Most Women sound hot when you can only hear their voice.
Seriously when I lived at home, my Hambeast Sister had hundreds of FedoraLords and Beta Orbiters buying her shit and burying her in compliments because she used her mic in games.
Why did Luke never tell Kylo that he could talk to Anakin's force ghost, and that he was redeemed?
>>320840306
Why does /v/ instantly think that a protagonist with any ability in anything at all means they're a Mary Sue?
>>320840414
Only one we know of.
They had a whole system for monitoring their behaviour too see if there's errors which implies there have been others.
>>320840282
I haven't read the expanded universe stuff, I am just making a guess based on the fact on what it is and what I know about science.
>>320840414
I highly doubt he's the only one to ever break conditioning, they have a whole system in place for detecting them
I think he just got lucky, and probably took way too long to get into his first battle, which just so happened to be incredibly traumatizing and also require him to mass murder civillians
>>320840509
Cortosis isn't canon yet anon, remember, all EU is non-canon now. Beskarr, etc too. It boils down to, ol' Ben Franklin and his electricity are the known counters to lightsabers and jedi right now.
>>320840414
He snapped at the wrong place at the wrong time. They have re-education programs for Stormtroopers that go awry, but he snapped at the worst time possible and they couldn't do anything about it.
Why they didn't have him restrained after they did his evaluation is beyond me.
>>320840576
rey was indeed a gigantic mary sue tho
>>320840558
Obviously to stay in hiding. Luke hid his presence as best as he could. Why he just ran away I don't understand. I can see how it's almost similar to Yoda disappearing off to Dagobah because of the great jedi purge.
>>320840439
I don't know, just look at
>>320840576
He actually thinks Luke is a Mary Sue.
Imagine a Star Wars game/film where both Jedi and Sith are non existant and the force and lightssabers and all that stuff have been long forgotten and faded into memory and legend and myth.
Would it still be worth playing or watching it then? No "ancient evil awakens" or "a new hope" this time, the Sith and Jedi in their eons long conflict have equally wiped each other out and all their artifacts and temples lost and abandoned.
Would it still be Star Wars?
>>320840439
>Luke
>Mary Sue
Luke literally fails at everything he tries in the original trilogy and has the be saved by everyone else every step of the way. His biggest triumph is the death star and he needed help from both obi wan and han solo to pull it off.
Hell, he wins the final battle in Episode VI by LOSING and having to have his father save him.
Meanwhile, Rey:
Is the strongest force user ever, despite no/minimal training
Is a wiz at repairing and piloting the milenium falcon, better than han solo and chewie
can speak with droids
is a master hand to hand fighter and can outshoot storm troopers with no prior shooting experience
doesn't need to be rescued, can save herself out of every situation, literally needs no man
>>320840828
I think you got those reversed m8
>>320840756
Alright then, I guess the answer to my question is yes.
>>320840879
>Is the strongest force user ever,
who said that?
>>320840576
because IS a Mary Sue
she does more in 1 movie than Luke did in 3
>learns Mind Tricks in minutes, even hough she doesn't know how the Force works or what a mind trick is
>learns lighsaber fighting in a instant
>instant expert pilot, even though she's never piloted anything in her life(Luke flied the ship the rebels used to train X-Wing pilots all his life)
>instantly liked by everyone, Han Solo give her a job offer withing the day of meeting her
it took Luke a lot of time and training to even stand a chance with Vader, and still he got his shit pushed in, and in ROTJ Luke had to channel a bit of the dark side to beat Vader
Rey just goes"oh the force lol" and beats Kylo "Autist" Ren like it was nothing
>>320840785
Yoda going away in ep3 was weird as well though, like he gave up too quickly against Sheev considering what was at stake
>>320840662
>why doesn't the series conform to my headcanon?
>>320840785
It will be explained in the next 4-5 movies
I was born in a small system, I was still a youngling when we were invaded by soldiers imperial soldiers
>>320840558
Because, Kylo Ren probably views Darth Vader being redeemed as a tragic fall to the lightside, as Luke viewed Anaking falling to the darkside at the end of EP III as tragic.
>>320839189
That is the best image I saw related to neo star wars
Also MGS4 is my second favorite in the series behind the original.
>>320840879
>Luke skywalker
>magically knows how to use a lightsaber
>beats the shit out of darthvader
>magically is a pro X-wng pilot
>destroys the Death star twice
and more
Rey is a far better written character so far than Luke ever is.
>>320840576
Name one character flaw Rey has? Name one moment where Rey needs the help of someone else to succeed/not die?
>>320840879
we're just making shit up at this point, aren't we?
>>320840984
So what? You wanted her to be useless the whole movie, get killed by Renn, and annoy the fuck out of Solo?
>>320840995
I don't think you understand what a guess is. Also I don't see you providing any suggestions.
>>320841132
She needed Finn to shoot the Ties in the beginning
>>320841035
>beats the shit out of Darth Vader
after extensive training from Yoda and after getting rekt the first time
>>320841035
Luke was trained by Obi wan and Yoda. Rey was trained by ???. Fucking neo Star war fans and their precious new Trilogy because they can't have Rey be a bad character in it.
>>320839830
Because Boba Fett was never meant to be anything other than SOME GUY. Literally a plot device.
People only liked him because he had a cool voice and cool armor. He isn't distinguishable from any character other than that.
>>320841270
More like Finn needed her to shoot the Ties at the beginning.
>>320841180
>implying you can only have those two extremes as options
how about a better written character instead?
>>320841132
>would have been killed without Finn saving her
>Crashed the Millennium Falcon and gets captured later on
>needs Finn to help her when Kylo ren was attacking them
>Needs to be rescued by Han Solo and Finn when they were escaping
>was distraught and emotional over the loss of her friends
>was scared of the lightsaber due to repressed memories when she was mindwiped, indicating a deep past
and more
Rey is pretty much the best written character in the movie.
TR-8R spinoff series when Disney?
>>320840982
Kylo Ren is a much stronger force user than Luke and Skywalker at this point, able to completely freeze someone in place, even freeze blaster bolts out of the air, yet Rey was able to overpower him trying to pull the lightsaber, and later beats him in the duel when she goes super saiya-jedi.
>>320841035
>magically knows how to use a lightsaber
Trained by obi wan, still loses his fight against Darth Vader in empire.
>beats the shit out of darthvader
After giving in to his hate and nearly succumbing to the dark side.
>magically is a pro X-wng pilot
He flew t-16 airspeeders as a hobby and was so good he could bulls eye womp rats
>destroys the Death star twice
He destroys it once and needs to be helped by obi wan and saved by han solo in order to do it.
>>320838593
Honestly? I wouldn't be surprised if this really is Venom 3PO. Remember, Kojima was working with a Hollywood Jew during MGSV's production, and you know Jews love working together. I bet that guy told his fellow Jew, Jew Jew Abrams, about it.
>>320840851
They made those games. X-Wing, and Dark Forces. Back in the mid 90s Star Wars was mostly about the regular guys. Then later something changed and suddenly you couldn't make a Star Wars game without it revolving around Jedi or Sith.
>>320841398
>The most engaging character in the movie employs spinning
The Lore Awakens
>>320840828
>He thinks Luke isn't a Mary Sue
>Implying the whole Skywalker line isn't Mary Sues>Including Rey
If only the force had never knocked up Shmi, none of this shit would have ever happened.
>>320840879
What does he fail at? And Han/ other X-Wing pilots keeping TIE Fighters and Vader off his back is "help", but Obi-Wan just telling him to use the force sure as hell isn't. He still makes a fucking impossible shot into a fucking 2m wide hole with DA FORCE. Rey I would definitely agree is more Mary Sue in her first movie then Luke was in ANH, but Luke pulls out some bullshit in ESB and RoTJ.
>Luke beats Vader, a being literally born of the Force, though crippled still incredibly powerful, with minimal and incomplete training from Yoda
>Implying Han and Chewie were ever good at keeping the Falcon in good condition. It's a literal gag throughout the OT that the hyperdrive is always fucked up. Rey is a scavenger and tinkers with shit all her life, it's not a surprise.
>Speaking to droids is now Mary Sue?
>Implying ST were ever a high standard for shooting, see the OT.
>A woman character being strong makes her a feminist Mary Sue tumblr-girl
Welp, I've seen it all.
>>320841480
>Kylo Ren is a much stronger force user than Luke and Skywalker at this point
I don't know if this could be counted as canon or just as a different way to portray the force.
It's like Batman Origins that plays before Asylum but has better technology because it was made later.
>>320841480
In the movies the writers and directors dont care if a literal nobody who just got a lightsabers beats a powerful force users that was trained in both the force and lightsaber combat.
I was heavily triggered by that and the last 20% of the movie shit for me.
Let alone that Kylo goes head on with Finn while he could just make him fall asleep or completely freeze him since Finn isnt a force user.
>>320841480
>Kylo Ren is a much stronger force user than Luke and Skywalker at this point, able to completely freeze someone in place, even freeze blaster bolts out of the air, yet Rey was able to overpower him trying to pull the lightsaber, and later beats him in the duel when she goes super saiya-jedi.
We have no idea how powerful Luke is tho.
>>320840785
Did you not fucking pay any attention? Luke went into self-exile because his training wasn't enough to keep Ben Solo from turning to the Dark Side and he blamed himself after his entire "new generation" of Jedi was slaughtered because of it.
>>320841370
She is a decently written character. If you wanna attack it, talk about how her staying in a fucking sandbox for her entire life waiting for the people who abandoned her. Or how she wanted to run away from the lightsaber because she was scared. Or literally anything.
The problem is you've spent too much time on this shit board and now all you do is regurgitate buzzwords you've heard hundreds of times instead of forming actual arguments.
>>320841630
>Let alone that Kylo goes head on with Finn while he could just make him fall asleep or completely freeze him since Finn isnt a force user.
Well you can say he couldn't because he was hit by chewie and was unfocused as fuck.
>>320841398
I found the perfect song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDtlIQ_hhi8
>>320841630
I can let Kylo vs. Finn slide because you can tell Kylo is just fucking with him. Once Finn gets that hit in Kylo gets serious and instantly disarms him and fucks his shit up.
>>320841271
>Extensive training
Nope
His training was incomplete. There is no training he receives in between his two battles with Vader. He leaves Dagobah for Bespin and gets his shit pushed in by Vader because he didn't finish his training, and when he returns all he gets is a talk from Yoda and then Yoda kicks the bucket. Suddenly at the end of RoTJ he's able to poop all over Vader.
>>320841727
Or that Kylo never finished his lightsaber training, so that fight is just 2 guys beating eachother with sticks.
Kylo is never shown to have any degree of finesse with the lightsaber, he's just whacking people with it.
>>320841867
This is true. Though it's mostly non-canon now, the EU did explain in some areas that not all Jedi/Sith are proficient with Lightsabers, they just all have/use them. Some Excel at it, like Mace Windu, while others pretty much have it for light defense and show purposes.
>>320839049
>Not knowing about V-3PO, a fallen droid
>>320841867
>Kylo is never shown to have any degree of finesse with the lightsaber, he's just whacking people with it.
Exactly. He was just hitting as hard as he could. Take the rage for example, he just trashes everything.
>>320841727
>Well you can say he couldn't because he was hit by chewie and was unfocused as fuck.
He did force push the shit out of Rey.
Could've done at least the same for Finn.
Also Rey is knowing how to resist force interragtion from out of nowhere is bullshit too.
They should've just the cool force parts with Kylo so it would make sense.
>>320841867
Everyone was using the lightsaber like its a 5kg heavy zweihander.
Like what the fuck.
>>320841782
A year passes between empire and rotj, during that time he builds his own lightsaber so he has definitely undergone more training.
>>320841782
He poops over Vader cause he's MAD AS FUCK SON. He almost gives in to the dark side, that's what gives him the power to beat the shit out of pops. But he stops cause he's scared of that power.
>>320841867
I don't think that's true. Kylo is a massive fanboy, so he is employing Vader's one handed strength style. I don't think the lightsaber duels will ever be as agile and flashy as the prequels in the new trilogy anyway, so don't use that comparison as a basis of skill.
>>320841984
Which seems inconsistent as fuck. Was there ever an explanation in the EU for how Luke built his lightsaber? Yoda never taught him so he must have found a holocron or some shit.
>>320842097
> I don't think the lightsaber duels will ever be as agile and flashy as the prequels in the new trilogy anyway
I am okay with this
>>320839059
i think the way lightsabers work is that anyone can pick one up and swing it around, but it takes someone skilled in it to keep you from slicing off your arm
>>320842258
>1 stupid action
>EVERYTHING SUCKS XD
The prequels did 1 thing right, the fucking lightsaber duels.
so did anyone else think about Kylo Ren as a autistic manchild
I can literally see him killing the Jedi School simply because Uncle Luke took his tendies away
>>320841978
>Everyone was using the lightsaber like its a 5kg heavy zweihander.
>Like what the fuck.
Well none of them have seen someone use a lightsaber. Except for Kylo who is an angsty teen who just wants to hurt people, so it makes sense everyone who picks up the sword just wants to hit as hard as possible.
From what I understood, the center of mass of a lightsaber is at the place where the laser comes out, so that's why they can use it like a zweihander. But that might be a non-canon EU thing I don't remember where I got that info from.
Might have been Jedi Academy.
While on the subject, wasn't the FIRST JEDI TEMPLE a place in the Jedi Knight series? I vaguely remember something like that.
>>320839059
PFF he maneges also wound the main bad guy of the film with the lightsaber, its fucking retarded.
Imagine Han Solo wounding Darth Vader in a lightsaber duel.
>>320840558
It's in the novelisation. Snoke and Ren talk about how sentiment is what held the empire back from being truly great. It's part of what encourages him to kill Han.
>>320842392
FUCKING JEDIFAGS GET THE FUCK OFF MY FORCE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>320842097
>I don't think the lightsaber duels will ever be as agile and flashy as the prequels in the new trilogy anyway
just kill me then
i want SWTOR trailer quality lightsaber battles because those are awesome
instead we will watch Kylo spin his lightsaber twice and whack like a retard for 2 more movies
Even though they had TWO great choreographers on their team from The Raid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzU68DEPw1w
>>320839049
To sell new c3po action figures
>>320842392
All he did was throw temper tantrums and get rekt by people with no training.
He has a red arm so that they can sell Episode 7 C3P0 toys.
>>320842338
I guess it's just me then, but I thought they were overly produced and looked out of place most of the time. And that .gif isn't even the worst offender, anything involving Yoda was a complete joke.
>>320842536
Might just be a matter of taste but I loved how visceral the light saber duels were in VII. Prequel lightsabers are way too over choreographed, it's like watching a video game cutscene.
>>320842616
You say that like they weren't going to sell toys anyways
>>320839525
C G I W E A P O N
C G I W E A P O N
>>320842438
Kylo Ren is just an austitic wannabe Sith following in Anakin's footsteps.
You forget that A) Finn got his shit pushed in basically the entire fight, he got one lucky clip into Ren's shoulder and B) Ren was nursing a wound from Chewie for both his fight with Finn and Ren, you can see him beating it to... stop blood flowing or something? I dunno.
See >>320842350
>>320842687
No.
>>320842338
Not him, but...
>choreographed breakdance scenes with flips and twirls and perfectly landed/parried blows are "right"
>no emotion between the characters, no tension
There's more than that one stupid action. Each duel is one big stupid scene. They all feel lifeless. Lightsaber duels are more about the characters and their reasons for fighting than the fight themselves.
>>320841548
m8 people have been tired of the super powered best at everything tuff gurl character for years unless she has a ton of charisma and charm
its more boring then generic action dude #953
>>320842338
no they didnt, fucking stupid ass flippy shit that looked fucking retarded.
luke vs vader in VI was perfect
>>320842438
The "main bad guy" of the film isn't Sith Lord who had Jedi Training from the age of however young Anakin was, though, let alone a lifetime of experience as a Padawan and Knight before being turned, and trained, by Sheev.
Kylo's training isn't complete, as confirmed by Snoke when he recalls him to "complete his training" after he gets his ass beat and separated in the duel with Rey.
>>320839049
There's going to be a comic next year that reveals why he has a new arm.
>>320842810
>luke vs vader in VI was perfect
Muh nostalgia.
Obi, Quai vs maul was best, you faggot.
honestly i don't know if i can watch a movie where the main characters are named "Finn" "Rey" and "Kylo"
what retard wrote that
>>320842650
>Prequel lightsabers are way too over choreographed
i dont think you know what that means
Prequels have so much retarded things and errors in their choreographcs that its absurd and also clearly visible.
At least in the SWTOR trailer it has logic behind it and doesnt have shit like these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0mUVY9fLlw
They just slash randomly here and there.
>>320842338
I will give you one thing, the fight with Darth Maul in the Naboo palace is pretty cool.
Everything else is DMC3 cutscenes.
>neo-star wars
Am I tasting a negative connotation here?
Did you guys like the movie?
http://strawpoll.me/6318193
>>320842789
Yeah, one thing I loved about The Force Awakens is that the duel between Kylo Ren and Finn (and later Rey) was tense as fuck
>>320839318
fucking kids
Finn a shit, Poe should have been male lead character.
>>320842824
>Kylo's training isn't complete, as confirmed by Snoke when he recalls him to "complete his training"
"kylo's training isnt complete" is that he isnt on the dark side yet.
Hint: pic related
>>320841968
>R2-Dira Milller
>>320842810
Luke vs Vader in VI was shit man. The choreography was turds.
Their battle in ESB was leagues better, and even the PT had better fights like >>320842901 and Obi-Wan and Anakin vs Dooku (before Anakin goes DEWL WEELD FLINGY DINGY).
>>320842927
"Obi Wan", "Darth Vader", "Han Solo",Sheev.
But nice b8.
>>320843072
Judging by how popular Poe was with only 15 minutes of screentime he'll probably have a huge part in episode VIII.
>>320839049
at the end of the movie he has his golden arm back though
>>320843109
If your major criticism of the VI luke-Vader fight is "the choreography", then you don't get it.
>>320842338
Way too over choreographed and obviously rehearsed. They constantly swing at the space inbetween them but block blows that weren't going to hit them anyway, and the flipping and twirling was dumb. It's not even consistant, like why would anakin start dual-weilding in AoTC when he never does it anywhere else? Like if he was better with it, he should always carry two lightsabers then.
>>320842350
why does this nigga look like one of them skater douches from a suburban high school
>>320843203
>>320843072
Here's hoping (and it looks like it) that Poe will be the third member to round out the new generation of Star Wars protags, like Luke/Leia/Han before.
>>320843140
I'M ALREADY A DEMON, R2
>>320843196
what those are all way better sounding names, aside from sheev which everyone has treated like a joke since the joke movies came out
>>320843278
Because Han and Leia are HORRIBLE parents.
>>320843087
You realize Kylo's going to come back to the Light eventually right? This is Disney and with how angsty he is it's the only possible outcome.
Honestly though he seems like he's inspired by Jacen/Darth Caedus from the EU. Who pretty much turned on his family and ended up being good after the fact when Luke talks to him in the pool of memories on his way to find Abeloth.
Which pretty much makes Rey a Jaina reimagining, she's going to be the Movie's "Sword of the Jedi" with Luke's guidance.
>>320843251
K, nice rebuttal. Very good points.
>>320841480
Kylo was hurt from the shots, don't you see him bleeding right before the last fight? He was clearly tired and fucked up as well. Not to mention most of the girl's mastery with that staff of hers directly transitions to her lightsaber techniques, thrusting whenever she could, meaning she had an idea of what she was doing.
>>320842350
If there was one thing I liked about this movie, it was the aesthetic of the lightsaber duel. The dark snowy forest and glow of the lightsaber was fucking 100% neato.
Is there any Star Wars stronger than full power EU Luke?
I asked my friend but he just started doing a reenactment of the Oprah thing except with YOU GET A BLACK HOLE
>>320842350
wow that fag is stupid
>get enemy to ground
>cinematically walk away and not cut his feet off
>>320842736
I read him beating himself as him being emotionally unstable about killing his own father and trying to psych himself out of it
>>320842350
I was coincidentally listening to Duel of Fates when I watched this. It matches up perfectly.
>>320843330
>a smuggler and a bitch princess horrible parents
who could have guessed
>>320842901
Had zero emotional investment in that. Hardly any of them had any character and Maul had like one scene where he speaks.
>>320843351
>You realize Kylo's going to come back to the Light eventually right?
Yes, that clear.
He is going to come back, save the day and get killed/die.
>Honestly though he seems like he's inspired by Jacen/Darth Caedus from the EU
Personality/Story maybe.
But i was seeing Revan everytime i saw him.
>>320843420
No, before the fight there's a close-in shot of his side and it pans to his blood in the snow. He's beating his wound.
>>320843330
They learned from the best.
>>320842983
>http://strawpoll.me/6318193
I didn't watch it but I am going to vote yes just to trigger you guys
>>320843239
This. It was confusing as fuck.
>>320843420
He was hitting the wound, though not sure why. Possibly to get himself angry and empower himself with the dark side more than anything, or some weird technique to make it clot faster? Either way it was fucking weird and a terrible decision, you don't do that shit midfight and walk away, that's how you lose fights.
>>320842338
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0mUVY9fLlw
>>320843420
Yeah I saw it as maybe he was trying to pump himself up for the fight.
>>320842928
People say over choreographed when they really mean it looks like a dance and not a fightand also parroting Plinkett
>>320843398
That's the point, he was toying with him. See how quickly he wrecks him once he gets that lucky hit? If he wanted to he could have killed him at any time.
>>320843463
That's an insult to Revan, anon, he was never an angsty teen, nigga got shit done.
>>320842350
holy cow was the original trilogy this bad also?
i kind of felt like jedis and sith where special users of the force and gifted lightsaber users wasn't that like the whole point of the luke skywalker arc?
maybe I'm retarded but that scene looked like some fanfic tier garbage
>>320843587
But that faggot's design is literal Revan copy.
>>320842650
Agreed. The people wielding lightsabers in VII didn't know what they were doing. Kylo Ren's training was incomplete, and the others thought they were a myth up until they had to use one in a fight.
Highly-choreographed fight scenes wouldn't have fit the narrative.
>>320843516
That was the best part IMO. Loved how he was pysching himself up. He walked away because he doesn't take Finn seriously at all. He's enjoying the fight, doesn't want to end it too quickly. How often do you get to try out your sick lightsaber moves on another person?
>>320842672
Yeah but they need a way too differentiate him. Otherwise people will think "I already have a C3PO figure."
Star Wars is all about the toys and merchandise after Empire Strikes Back. Kurtz said it himself.
>>320840984
she knew stories about the jedi thinking they were myths though, she probably tried the same tricks that she heard in those stories
>>320842536
Jedi are knights, not ninjas. Retarded over the top flashy spinny choreography has absolutely no weight to it, it just looks cool. VII did what the originals did, they're basically just swords and people wail on each other with them.
>>320843605
The entire movie is fanfic garbage
>>320843516
i actually laughed at that part
"ah ha my opponent is defenseless, better hit myself and walk away"
>>320843528
>autistically overanalizing
You can do the same shit with the originals.
>>320843562
He will die because of letting the nigger live. Sith are fucking stupid.
>>320838593
HERE, I REALISE YOU ARE JUST LIKE ME TRYING TO MAKE HISTORY
>>320843516
Some people don't want to win too fast. Maybe he was trying to make it harder for him.
Who the fuck is snoke?
>fucked up face
>maybe pretty tall but maybe just the hologram
>>320843385
Anakin in his prime
>>320843774
He wasn't trying to let him live, I'm pretty sure when he severed his spinal cord with his lightsaber he was 100% sure he just killed him.
>>320843605
2:30
Your welcome.
>>320843692
> Retarded over the top flashy spinny choreography has absolutely no weight to it
Neither does the lightsaber has weight and jedis can jump really high.
Therefore you are just wrong and SWTOR trailer cheorography is still the best and on point in illustrating it.
If you want OT shit then watch old samurai movies with 0 action.
>>320843737
The originals had emotion, atmosphere and tension behind their fights. The prequels relied of their choreography.
>>320843886
The prequels had tension as fuck. Especially the waiting at the forcefields. And then the emotion of Qua getting hit.
>>320840414
>Finn is actually force-sensitive
citation needed
Nothing is said about Finn being force sensitive.
>>320843660
Narrative is a word that people shitting on the new film don't seem to understand.
>why is kylo ren an angsty teenager
>darth vader wasn't an angsty teenager
>therefore the movie is terrible
He's not supposed to be an intimidating BBEG. Not for the same reasons that Vader was, anyway. He's supposed to be a fuckup weirdo who clearly hasn't done a very good job learning to do force. If anything, he's intimidating because he's clearly a school-shooter and you never know when he's going to snap and do something fucking nuts. Literally the whole point what we've seen of his arc so far.
>>320843807
I'm thinking the whole giant hologram is kind of a red herring/gag, and Snoke is going to end up being tiny as shit, like a Galvin from Ben 10 if anyone gets the reference.
I was really wondering how the fuck they were gonna have a big bad that's that huge before they revealed it was a big hologram.
So how was it? Trash like 1-3 or pretty ok like 4-6?
>>320843807
snoke is darth plagueis
>>320843807
We know it's a hologram nigga, he's either normal sized or the size of the cokebottle glasses ratlady from the bar and going to be some kind of anti-Yoda I'm sure.
When I first saw it though I was all, "what the fuck man a giant bad guy? That's out of place and unrealistic for the established canon" so it was relief to see it was just a hologram.
>>320843692
>Retarded over the top flashy spinny choreography has absolutely no weight to it, it just looks cool.
At least its enjoyable unlike the slow-asfuck robotman and his slow as fuck son slashing at each other randomly like retards.
OTfags are the worst.
>>320844005
Trash
>>320843987
He's literally a school shooter because he killed everyone at the jedi academy.
>>320842338
>45 minutes of a boring fight in 3
>Dancing in 1 and 2
>Writing did not make it easy to care about the characters so the fights are effectively filler
No thanks anon.
>>320844005
Everyone agrees it's better than 1-3 but there's debate on how good it is compared to the OT. Personally I like it better, it's a modernized OT, but others disagree.
>>320844005
The consensus is that it's the third best after Empire and New Hope.
>>320844017
That's what we think because the theories. But he doesn't look like him. He has a nose.
>>320844046
>We know it's a hologram nigga
I know we do, but is just the hologram that big or himself too.
>>320844017
Snoke is Vitiate.
>>320844084
I should have said literally instead of clearly. Missed opportunity.
>>320844005
looks cool but its just weird, if you try to frame it as another star wars movie it makes almost little sense and is frustrating
honestly its basically EA Battlefront the movie, if you want to turn your brain off and stare and pretty lights its fine
how do you force this much darkness in star wars and not get caught chaim
>>320839373
with a fucking bowcaster which sends people flying
>>320844005
The latter. It's a return to form of the original trilogy, no matter how much /v/ may shit on it, it -felt- like a decent star wars movie, no pandering CG comic relief aliens, no overly fancy shit, etc.
The only thing I will concede is there's a lot of deja vu from Ep 4. A LOT. Reused ideas and story points and whatnot.
>>320844134
It's a love-letter to the OT you dongle. And unlike EABF, stormstroopers keep their fucking helmets on.
>>320844005
Somewhere in the middle. But leaning to the original trilogy side.
>>320844005
V>IV>=VII>VI>III>I>II
>>320844051
>OTfags are the worst.
You have to be mentally insufficient to enjoy the prequels and EU more than the OT.
>>320839208
Cortosis
>>320844208
it is but its also inconsistent because they threw out most of the lore that was built around it
its just kind of confusing when you try to frame it as episode 7
Was Kylo Ren a virgin?
>>320844260
You have real good taste, friend.
>>320839226
>accident
Doesn't he impale the guy very deliberately?
>>320843380
>you could hear the snowflakes hiss as they hit the lightsabers
>>320844260
i totally agree with this list
>>320844286
Fuck you, the more recent EU was good shit. I'll give you the prequels being shit though
>>320842392
>Watching Force Awakens at the theaters
>"Hey he looks kinda cool."
>He throws a temper tantrum and breaks shit like 3 times, "What a fucking child."
>He takes off the helmet
The moment he took off the helmet, I accidently let out a laugh in the theater and people looked at me. I felt bad, but hearing that voice and seeing that face was such a joke. They make all this remarks about how he wants to be the new and better Vader, but he just comes off like prequel Anakin.
>>320844286
I enjoyed all movies except 2. ;^)
And PT sure as hell as way better action scenes.
>>320843956
There was no emotion because qui-gon was a boring shit character, killed by a villain who had three lines in the entire movie. After qui-gon dies, you think obi-wan would get angry and reckless but it just goes back to the same spinny shit as before. Anakin vs Obi-wan in ROTS was the only one which had emotion behind it, but it dragged on for way too long and got ridiculous. Not to mention how dumb the high ground shit was.
>>320844343
Only if you're invested in the expanded universe.
And it's real easy to forget about that considering how garbage most of it is.
>>320844286
The writing in some of the EU stuff like Kotor far exceeds the quality of the ot
>>320844398
Is that what that was? The sound was weird in my theater so it sounded like someone was pissing in a bottle somewhere behind me the whole fight.
>>320843730
>The entire movie is fanfic garbage
And this is what make it great.
>>320844418
That was the point
>>320844260
Swap I and II and I agree 100%
>>320844418
>They make all this remarks about how he wants to be the new and better Vader, but he just comes off like prequel Anakin.
That's literally the entire point. He wants to be the new and better Vader but he's failing at it super hard.
>>320844418
>thatsthefuckingpoint.tiff
Literally he WANTS to be the Anakin. But he can't. Because he's a fuckup.
>>320844260
Agreed
Since when did /tv/ get so infested with Disney shills?
>>320843774
Ren certainly is. I don't like to bandy around terms like "psychopathic manchild" but Ren, at least at this point, is literally that.
He's like if you stuck Wez or Johnny the Boy in a spiffy "Sith Lord" outfit and handed them a lightsaber. I mean, the guy is fucking lunatic. Look at his "punching his wound to psych himself up" antics, and throwing insane temper tantrums where he cuts up rooms with the sword, and how the Storm Troopers are afraid to be near him even though they legit did nothing wrong.
People were afraid to disappoint Vader, people are afraid just to be near him in a bad mood.
But seriously, especially the "punch wound to get stoked/amped up" that struck me as totally "Mad Max Raider" type material.
That's fucking crazy.
>>320839525
she is there to sell toys to little girls, she's cool and shiny to distract you from the fact she doesn't actually do anything cool.
there were action figures of her before the movie even came out so yeah. it's just an extra to grab a certain demographic and also sell toys of her shiny armor.
>>320844578
Disney has deeper pockets than EA
>>320839059
>I DID MAINTENANCE
>>320844260
am i the only one who liked III the most rofl maybe it's just cause it's the last movie or maybe just because i like sad movies and i felt that was the saddest one
>>320844578
Why don't you go back there?
>>320844486
>The writing in Kotor 2 far exceeds the quality of the ot
Fixed.
>>320844553
And it wasn't a good one, it was fucking terrible and the movie just feels like a mash up. The plot is damn near the same as New Hope, and it even has another Death Star in planet form. How is that planet a practical weapon anyway? It absorbed the sun in two uses, and where's it gonna get more sun's.
>>320842824
Kylo got trained by Luke, and also managed to fight and kill all of Luke's other padawans. He should have defeated a non-force user and a day old jedi with fuck all saber training, wounded or otherwise.
Rey has no journey whatsoever, just goes from scavenger to powerful saber fighter overnight.
>>320842392
wasn't that his character?
10/10 bambrhams
>>320844686
obsidianfags pls leave
KOTOR1>KOTOR2
>>320844553
>>320844562
>>320844565
You guys make it sound like it was a good point to make or something.
I really wish that the mind wipe theory is true in 8 so you faggots get BTFO.
I can't even comprehend how retarded you have to be because you can't follow a Hollywood blockbuster. Simply ignoring the rational explanations and crying about mary sues and whatever else buzzwords you can think of reeks of lower than average IQ.
>>320844701
Who said he did that alone?
>>320844447
I enjoyed them all but come on. The space battlea were all garbage and the battle of geonosis being fought like LOTR battle was dumb.
>>320844635
>I checked.
>>320842392
He's the Jedi equivalent of a school shooter.
>>320844772
bullshit
>we better follow exactly what the films made p
vs.
>let's deconstruct the idea of the light and dark sides
i like how different the lightsaber combat is between the other movies and this one, the lack of training showed a lot, they were just trying to hit as hard as possible with the saber
>>320844772
Writing wise though?
>>320844781
This, TFA is better written than the OT in every single way and retards on /v/ are so stupid they need everything explained to them.
>>320844701
>Kylo got trained by the lastJedi, who had no proper Training either beyond very light experience, and probe droid practice where he got zapped by it.
>>320844778
Because it's unique and interesting on a character level as well as a meta level since he is in universe and in real life living in vader's shadow.
>>320844598
>Look at his "punching his wound to psych himself up" antics
I think it was actually a method of coping with the pain.
>>320844778
>star wars isn't allowed to have antagonists unless they're flawless cyborg sith lords
>>320843956
Prequels were 100% garbage, anyone who says the prequels have any redeeming qualities just have pure shit taste.
>>320844913
>Repeating a character is unique and interesting
Fucking kek.
>>320844846
In all honesty that looks good because there's weight to it
Finn was scared shitless anyway so why the fuck not?
>>320844884
>lets make star wars star wars
vs
>lets make edgy shitretard logic philosophy
no thanks
>>320844910
i don't exactly remember how VI ends, but couldn't Luke keep being trained by yoda/obi wan/qui-gon or even anakin?
>>320843072
>Not wanting a Finn/Poe bromance where they go on wacky space adventures.
I thought they were great together
>>320845080
I don't think you've even watched the movies. Yoda, Obi-Wan, QUi-Gon and Anakin/Vader are all dead by the end of VI.
>>320845051
How is that repeating a character? Kylo Ren is nothing like Darth Vader, which is the point.
>>320845064
>hm yes let me just shovel in more of this exact same shit, delicious
I bet you didn't like the Thrawn novels either
>>320844981
>He didn't develop a midriff fetish because of AotC
fag.
>>320844981
Go off yourself
>>320843528
>superstar_saga.amv
>>320839525
The most disappointing character from the movie happens to be a woman.
Cool.
>>320845163
but they all came back in spirit form, why couldn't they keep teaching him?
>>320845169
>Acts like a tantrum throwing piss-ant like Anakin
>>320845163
Have YOU watched the movies?
Obi-Wan continues to train Luke as a force ghost and most of the other dead people show up multiple times for shits and giggles as well.
>>320845080
this: >>320845163
How the fuck did you even think Qui'gon could train Luke in a movie that came out 30 years before we even knew qui'gon existed? Are you even trying to pay attention?
>>320845064
You aren't very smart.
>>320845324
They're only able to show up as force ghosts for short times in times of need, that shit isn't something they can do at will or for long periods, let alone to train him.
>>320844701
Rey has a past. The visions she got from the saber could mean a lot of things.
Imo, best theory is she was a padawan too, possibly even taking part in fucking up the order.
Luke was looking pretty fucking angry when Rey showed up.
>>320845337
why can't they keep teaching him in force ghost form? haven't there been repeated instances of sith lords getting an apprentice even after they died?
also this >>320845265
and this >>320845324
>>320845297
Anankin is broody and edgy but he doesn't throw tantrums
Closest he gets is a rage-slaughter of the Tuskins, but it's still nothing similar
Is Kylo supposed to be a shitty version of Jacen Solo?
>>320845178
You are a hypocrite.
Because i know you dont like SWTOR. ;^)
SWTOR is better than KOTOR 1-2.
>>320844778
That's the point, Ren was supposed to be the edgy manchild comic relief.
He's not supposed to be threatening at all through the entire movie.
>>320845163
We know from the end though that Luke can still communicate with the dead Jedi. Plus we know from what Yoda says in the prequels that dead Jedi like Qui-Gon can teach techniques to living Jedi.
>>320845324
That didn't happen in the movies, that happened in the books which are no longer canonical.
>>320845297
Yeah, it's almost as if teenagers with parental problems are angsty and make poor choices.
>>320845463
>Anankin is broody and edgy but he doesn't throw tantrum
>totally didn't throw a tantrum all over that entire village of sand people for kidnapping mommy
>>320845463
FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, ANAKIN THROWS TANTRUMS
>>320845415
>They're only able to show up as force ghosts for short times in times of need, that shit isn't something they can do at will or for long periods, let alone to train him.
According to you, but it's never mentioned in the films. It is mentioned, however, that Obi-Wan was still training him. In Empire they sit around and have a chat about whether or not Luke is going to go fight Vader.
>>320842350
>mfw someone asked why he was pumping his chest in the theatre
Are people really this stupid?
>>320839059
>Shitposting on /v/ when you should be practicing to get back on the first squad
for shame
>>320845514
Don't you find that a little disappointing that there's no true villain in the movie to hate or even rally behind? Snoak is literally nothing in the movie, and the General was pretty worthless himself.
>>320845468
>playing MMOs
>>320845163
not him, but the "force ghost" was also a technique that allows death Jedi to communicate.
At the end of Ep3, Yoda learns that Qui Gon Jinn understand this technique and tells Obi Wan he will learn from him. And its supposed they also communicate with anakin/vader.
This justify why they all appears like ghost at the end of Ep6.
>>320845467
I kinda tripped out when they said his name was Ben. I get Luke naming his kid that in EU, but Han and Leia have pretty much no reason for naming their kid after Obi.
>>320845539
I'm not even close to my mother but if I were a space-wizard with a plasma-sword and found the people who tortured her to death I would probably also slaughter them. Particularly if I knew I could get away with it.
Ren on the other hand literally throws tantrums and breaks shit like a child.
>>320845625
Told you that you are a hypocrite.
also
>playing shit obsidian games
topkek
>>320845539
>>320845540
>Mother is kidnapped and killed by a race of people who you have known to be shitstains your entire life
>"Stop throwing a tantrum!".
>>320845675
Because Obi-Wan is the only Ben in the universe, right?
>>320845608
That's why TFA is well written, it doesn't need a villain that isn't defeated by the end of the movie, it has the grand leader that stays a huge threat throughout the trilogy.
>>320845529
It absolutely did happen in the films you dingus. Force ghosts are in every other fucking scene in Empire and Return.
>>320839049
He's become Iron Man
>>320845463
Anakin was a trained Jedi who was trying not to turn to the dark side.
Kylo Ren on the other hand is a sith in training who is trying not to turn to the light. He was intentionally trying to put himself into a rage to cultivate his power.
>tfw my gf says I look like Kylo Ren
I don't want to be an angry kid.
>>320845761
so Jayjay just copied the prequels then?
>>320845440
>mfw episode 8 begins with Luke force choking Rey lifting her in the air
>>320845675
Obiwan trained luke and saved Leia, why else would they not name him ben?
>>320845737
I get your point, but I just think it's too close to be a complete coincidence.
>>320845297
That was when Anakin was actually trying to be good. When he became Vader he was stoic, and menacing and in control. Kylo Ren is actively trying to be evil. He has no control over his anger, is unfocused, and insecure about being so shit compared to Vader.
>>320845812
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say your gf looks like Lena Dunham
>>320839049
the joke is that he constantly gets disablembled and reasembled in the films
also >>320842567
>>320844783
Even with the rest of the Knights of Ren, he must have been somewhat proficient in saber fighting. Rey had no training whatsoever, other than that shitty spear.
Imagine how fucked you'd be showing up to some fencing club with zero experience and fighting someone who'd had a few years of training. Should have ended a draw, Kylo doesn't seem a threat anymore.
>>320845440
But it shows her getting dumped on Jakku as a little kid.
>>320839525
Wasn't that a droid?
>>320845675
>>320845843
>Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope.
But nah, Leia had nothing to do with him.
>>320845529
>That didn't happen in the movies, that happened in the books which are no longer canonical.
Shit, it happened along the whole half of Ep4 after he dies and constantly tells Luke about use the force. He also do the same in Ep5, when he appears as a fucking ghost and tell him to go to Dagoba. Its Obious he keeps guiding him in the same way we didnt see how Obi Wan learned the spirit technique from Qui-Gon Jinn, but is implied by Yoda that he will learn it from his ghost.
Does VII have lightsaber fights where they're actually aiming at each other?
>>320845927
No matter how ugly I find Adam Driver, he is still way out of her league.
>>320845764
Obi-Wan is never shown to train Luke in the movies as a ghost.
>>320845812
Sorry about having a kyke nose, bro. Atleast your hair is luxurious as fuck.
>>320845415
qui-gon teached yoda though
>>320845986
I wouldn't exactly call that training.
>>320840307
Which is dumb as fuck imo.
Who wears armor that won't actually protect you? Just give them a god damn uniform like the officers.
>>320839267
Non Jedi can use them but its incredibly dangerous due to the blade being weightless. It takes ages to be able to properly wield it and it requires the force to be able to sense where the blade is.
>>320842350
>finn is related to mace windu.
>>320843986
its kinda hinted at tho 2bh familia
>>320846016
its like two drunk people swinging bats at each other
>>320846017
he isn't really even ugly, just looks weird
i mean not in a good way weird but definitely not conventionally ugly
>>320846028
But he and others frequently show up as ghosts, and it is mentioned that Luke has continued to learn from Obi-Wan since his 'death'. Which is exactly what I said initially you backpedaling illiterate.
why do people get upset about the trained storm trooper holding his own in a fight and not the starved scavenger mary sue?
>>320846131
>it requires the force to be able to sense where the blade is
Niggawhat
It's a big glowing cackling beam.
That's where the fucking blade is don't touch that. Am I the chosen one now?
>there will never be a Star Wars movie featuring one of the best characters of its universe, Kyle Katarn
why live
i bet wookie feet did this
>>320846116
Why do soldiers in the Middle East wear kevlar when they can still easily get fucked up by one Aloha Snackbar and his AK?
You wear it just in case it saves your life, glancing blows and low velocity shots.
3>2=7>1
debate me
>>320846176
which makes sense because the only person trained to use a lightsaber in the entire movie is kylo ren
>>320845843
>>320845974
But why name him Ben instead of Obi-Wan then?
Nevermind, fuck it. I'm reading into it too much I guess.
>>320846248
>>320845842
Naw, though I'm pretty sure he'll finally stop staring at her in disbelief and then tell her to basically fuck off and be all angsty "it's my fault he turned blah blah" just like he was in the books after Kyp Durron turned and blew up planets.
Plus, he knowsthat she's his Daughter. Who do you think she was waiting on on Jakkur? Why do you think she hung out by the crashed X-Wing and wore the helmet? It wasn't just because she "wanted to be a pilot and see the galaxy", because she wanted to go -back- to Jakkur when she finally did get off the planet, remember.
>>320842392
Kylo is literally an edgelord faggot going through a Nazi worship phase
>>320846131
Anyone can use a lightsaber, it's just a goddamn blade how hard can it be?
>>320846072
I do have a bad nose. But my hair is really nice. Thanks bro.
>>320846201
How am I backpedaling? I fully stand behind what I said. There is no visual representation of a ghost training someone in the movies. There have been plenty of examples in the books, but we're not talking about the books.
>>320846271
He was only cool cause he was an obscure character that was also a Jedi when we thought there were no others around.
>>320846248
Yeah now go swing it around while you're in a fight and concentrating on a million other things. Good luck.
>>320845945
Pretty sure I could land a few hits to a fencer who has killed his father, gotten slashed and shot by something close to a grenade. Besides the fight didn't even finish. There was no "winner".
>>320846298
Didn't mean to quote >>320846248
>>320846248
Yes.
Here is your complimentary keychain lightsaber and a cupcake
May the force be ever in your favor
>>320846016
yep
>>320846201
Show me, show me where it is mentioned
I literally just marathoned the OT yesterday to prep for TFA last night, and this is not mentioned anywhere.
Ben just shows up and says stupid shit like "Use the force" and "From a certain perspective I wasn't a lying butthole...". No training.
How badly do you think this movie was chopped up by Disney though? There's no way this would've been Abrams' final cut. The pacing is janky and cluttered, this should have been 3 hours long to give all the characters proper screentime
but kids can't sit through a 3hr sci fi epic i guess.
things that were probably filmed but chopped by Disney to lower running time;
>phasma doing anything cool at all
>explanation of C3PO's arm
>a better ending? (seriously what the hell was that silent awkward ending shot? Why not end with Luke taking it and turning it on to stare at the blade, wipe to credits?)
>more scenes that aren't just people fleeing from explosions or shooting lasers (there is character building but it had too much to say and no breathing room to say it all)
>>320846131
Blade isn't weightless, EU is no longer canon. George told the actors to act like they are holding a heavy blade.
>>320846290
No, kill yourself
>>320846348
Because I never said there was visual representation. I said outright that ghosts show up and training is inferred. You told me that what I said only happened in the books, which is wrong; everything I said happened in the films absolutely did.
>>320846348
didn't qui-gon teach yoda how to ghost form, while in ghost form?
>>320846464
George also said Jar Jar is a must.
>>320846480
good argument you really swayed me with those hot opinions faggot
>>320846290
moot pls go
So who the fuck was that Emperor 2.0 in the giant hologram they kept talking to?
>>320846116
They had to make their own uniforms since they are essentially Space ISIS now
>>320846515
George's favorite char in the whole series is Jar Jar, I'm so glad Disney took this shit from him before he made it any worse
>>320846296
Maybe his name is Obi-Wan but Han just called him Ben
Kind of like how Obi-Wan was called Ben throughout most of the OT
Durka-durr.
>>320843380
>Blues and grey
10/10 taste nigga, best Bats every year.
Black and grey works too but I need DAT contrast.
>>320846564
Yoda 2.0
>>320846367
he was a good character because he didn't give a shit about being a jedi or a sith and just used the force in whatever way he needed it
it's too bad the actor is a faggot. I really wanted to know what happened to this fuck after OT.
>>320844005
It basically has the same plot as A New Hope, not even joking.
>>320846763
On a related note, I'm definitely thinking Luke has gone full grey Jedi at this point. After Kylo Ren going full Sandy Hook on the new Jedi academy, Luke runs off to seclusion and realizes that there is both Light and Dark in the Skywalkers. I got this vibe from his robe, it's obviously not grey-grey but it's a very far cry from Jedi tan.
>>320839059
He got his ass handed to him though
>>320844578
When Disney finally gave me a waifu to care about.
>>320846462
I actually liked the ending and had no problem with it. I like the look on Luke's face like "who the hell are you and how the fuck did you find me?"
Also hoping for some more of mai waifu
>>320841548
We were told that Luke trained really hard in the 5 years or so between ANH and ROTJ. Rey learned about the force yesterday and pushed kylo rens shit in
Any rebel troopers in the movie?
>>320844612
Was it told before that she was a woman? I don't remember that.
>>320846564
Darth Plagueis
>>320847026
What do you think Finn is?
>>320846990She's Luke's daughter, he knows this in her face, he knows this in his sensing her through the force.
>>320845702
I'm hypocritical for not having an opinion about TOR because I don't play MMOs?
>>320846990
>I can't into facial emotions
He was on the verge of crying, because his daughter came and found him
>>320846564
Supreme Commander Snoke, the latest member of a order of users of the dark side of the force who set up both the rise of Sheev and his ultimate down fall. Previous members of the group include Jar Jar Binks, and Wicket.
>>320846990
They are stealing ideas from Expanded Universe already so it's totally obvious she's his daughter who was too young to remember him.
>>320847086
Plagueis looks too different from Snoke. He doesn't have the right head shape for Plagueis' race.
>>320844981
>Padme midriff
>Ewan McGregor being handsome and charming
>Caused the clone spinoffs which are near universally great to decent
>Best memes
>>320839059
>How to salvage nutrilogy>Kylo kills Rey>Finn kills KyloYou have a nice moral how it's not who you're born as that makes who you are - it's your choices that do it.
>Kylo had perfect startup and squandered it all
>Finn was a nobody and grew to be Windu 2.0 or whatever despite having no force
>Dark Side accomplishes anything of importance and gets out of "everyone on DS is a mentally ill psycho"
>Single tear shed for Rey who was too mary sue for this galaxy far, far away
jk, Kylo will find out he's good after all and Rey will Reygn supreme with Finn at her side
>>320839525
She didn't think they had any chance anyway so she just went ahead and did it
>>320841524
because people don't care about lore and actual important shit. they just like all the epic collectibles and the brand itself.
>>320847086
>Darth Plagueis
Where are people getting this idea from? They look nothing alike.
>>320847001
She overpowered him because he had a crippling injury he was gritting his teeth about, had just killed his own father, and his big overcompensating super weapon was literally crumbling beneath his feet. He was just swinging wildly, insecure and confused
>>320847137
If she was Luke's daughter I think they would have addressed that in the movie. I doubt that will be it because honestly it seems too obvious. I expect we might learn more about her origin in Rogue One which will be about the theft of the original Death Star plans and which might include another potential father.
>>320844418
Way to miss the point bro, he's meant to be totally pathetic
>>320846116
It protects from minor blows, doesn't stop a laser blast though
>>320847074
You wouldn't know since she never takes off her mask (she is too professional to do that, hence why she tells off Finn for doing so. Troopers have no real identities, or at least they aren't supposed to. Most troopers probably haven't seen each other's faces.
>>320845527
That scene was fucking ridiculous. Any expansion on it, there was not
>>320847530
M8 they adress it numerous times in the movie they just don't tell it straight away. You have to be braindead to not to see it.
>>320847530
>If she was Luke's daughter I think they would have addressed that in the movie
You know there's another two films right? They need a couple little twists, and leaving a few questions unanswered, even if they're obvious, stimulates discussion.
/tv/ is nothing but TFA threads right now
>>320847671
>Most troopers probably haven't seen each other's faces.
So they don't shower? They don't eat? Come on man.
>>320846945
I hadn't heard til now that Lawson turned down the role. That's too bad, but at least we got a new X-wing pilot who's a more prominent character and is pretty likeable outside of the Marvelesque quips.
So was that old dude at the beginning supposed to be someone from the OT? Because I do not remember him.
>>320847916
that was Obi Wan
>>320847671
>most troopers probably haven't seen each other's faces
TR-8R did recognize Finn though
thank you mods for letting this videogame thread up
>>320847476
I hope Kylo will not become a good character. Or more like during his death scene where he will be like Arthas from WoW.
>>320846945
They should have killed him at the start, not that Lars faggot. Would have been closure at least
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