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Is this the last rhythm game to anything that wasn't le dancing animu girl?
Post genres that don't do anything interesting anymore.
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>>320795162
>Is this the last rhythm game to anything that wasn't le dancing animu girl?
kill yourself
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>>320795162
its not even the latest rhythm heaven game, also no

but there arent enough, that i can agree on
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>>320795162
>proper rhythm games are too hard so I like baby minigame ones instead
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>>320795590
Yeah because the Rhythm Heaven series is actually fun and not weeaboo garbage
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Why is OP such a cosmic faggot?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGYP5B0N2oo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjZX8MvH3c8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAr5ajkQd0c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wHbNXR9rHM
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>>320795713
Rhythm Heaven is also piss easy, and it's got its fair share of weeb too. Christ, I can't imagine you lasting two seconds in any other rhythm game that isn't "okay friends tap once every few seconds in time with the rhythm!". If you think that is challenging, fun, or even decent, you're a fucking idiot. And yeah, you probably are.
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>>320795872
Don't bother arguing with a shitter who uses "weeaboo garbage" to shoot down fucking rhythm games of all things.
I'd like to see the fag attempt Taiko or IIDX.
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>>320795872
The thread is about "creativity," not difficulty. Matching coloured circles in time with a line isn't too fun either.
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>>320796051
>Matching coloured circles in time with a line
Too bad that's what rhythm fucking means, it doesn't matter what kind of coating you give it. Does Rhythm Heaven even have its own peripherals?
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>>320796051
Yep, you've never actually played a rhythm game.
One of these requires skill and is fun and rewarding to execute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzhcBSjhoCI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdZLAbQAesk
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>>320795715
That's from Inazuma Eleven, right...?
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>>320796191
Rhythm Heaven gets kinda fast at the end though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul-yXb7M3lw
Still not too hard unless you're going for perfects.
Also somebody post some cuhrayzee Taiko.
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>>320796169
lol does a wii remote count as a peripheral
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Do all rhythm fags eventually become closed minded cunts? Maybe this is why moderate difficulty creative rhythm games are dead
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>>320795872
Look at you all defensive and shit let up man its just video games :^)
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>>320796374
I actually do enjoy rhythm heaven, but it's probably the furtherest thing from a rhythm game. It's basically wario ware but with a music focus. It's a shame the remixes are the best parts of the game, and they're are only 8-10 in the games.
OP is a fucking idiot though if they think Rhythm Heaven is actually the pinnacle of rhythm games.
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Don't kid yourself, Rhythm Heaven is anime as fuck.

Miku is popular because the game is fun, there's lot of content and it's on various systems.

Rhythm Heaven is fun as well, but there's no content besides the songs.
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>>320796380
>Maybe this is why moderate difficulty creative rhythm games are dead
except superbeat xonic just came out
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>>320795162
There was Theatrhythm.

Too bad that most of it is miku jerkoff material right now, or even worse mobile shit.

I like Rhythm Heaven because its actually much more about rhythm than the games that call themselves rhythm games which are mostly just memorization.
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>>320796380
>moderate difficulty creative
If it isn't high difficulty it can fuck right off. As for "creative" call me when your game have its own unique arcade cabinet and control scheme (hint: all the rhythm games these days still do).
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>>320796682
>I like Rhythm Heaven because its actually much more about rhythm than the games that call themselves rhythm games which are mostly just memorization.
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>>320795162
My favorite thing about Rhythm Heaven has to be that you can play the thing blindfolded.
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>>320796586
>Rhythm Heaven is fun as well, but there's no content besides the songs.
That's like saying there's no content in Mario except the platforming. It's a rhythm game, what do you expect?
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>>320796682
>I can't read them therefore they're memorization ;')
Every time.
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>come into thread expecting lukewarm discussion about rhythm games

jesus why is it so elitist in here
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3D platformers are pretty dead, but at least they're getting a bit of a future for now.
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>>320796837
Its about rhythm after all.
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>>320796682
>games that call themselves rhythm games which are mostly just memorization
jesus fucking christ you must have the shittiest reflexes on the planet
It'll probably be ten minutes before you realize you've got this reply
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>>320796968
genrefaggotry is a hell of a drug
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>>320796191
>Go for a Perfect!
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I never did get perfect on everything, shit just gets on your nerves seeing that
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>>320797058
It sure is isn't it :)
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where are the piano arcade games, I know I've seen more than this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-PK9Z3pbow
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>>320796837
>rhythm heaven is literally so easy you don't even need to look at the screen and just tap to the beat
wow so hard
must be fun being challenged like that
hate it when a game is too easy
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There's a browser game being developed that's similar to Rhythm Heaven but IDK if it'll ever get finished, haven't heard an update in a long time. What's there already is cool at least. Definitely scratches the same itch.

http://fizzd.itch.io/rhythm-doctor
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>>320797182
>piano arcade games
Why not just fucking play the real thing
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>>320797250
>Definitely scratches the same itch.
>url has "itch" in it
fuck you this was intentional wasn't it
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>>320797269
wow look the videogame argument
>sports games
>racing games
>puzzle games
>rhythm games
kill thyself
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>>320797250
Now this is something I can get behind, fuck that miku bullshit
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>>320795872
>>320796051

>Rythm Game
>Easy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enhmudogC3A
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>>320796682
What Rhythm Heaven does is focusing on the beat, it isn't immune to muscle memory.

Having multiple lanes like in Theatrhythm isn't so you can memorize, it's for a representation of the melody/notes changing up & down whatever (ideally).

Memorization would be retarded shit like the arbitrary fingerings on a flute unlike the logical scales on a stringed instrument (including piano).
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>>320797445
It's a bit different here, fampai. A sports game would require button presses while the real thing requires you to get your fat ass up. A piano game like that has the same controls as a real piano.
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>>320797250
Indie could be the way to go for games like that.

Definitely cant rely on bigger companies to make anything but cheap waifu cashins.

Makes me wonder why there arent more games like this.
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>>320797269
I didn't realize a piano would grade and give you feedback on how well you played as its happening
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>>320797576
I can't imagine a mouse feeling very appropriate/fluid to a rhythm game.
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>>320797769
OH YEAH WELL you got me there.
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I consider Rhythm Heaven to be a Rhythm game, whereas stuff like Beatmania, Ouendan, DJ Max, etc are all Music games.
Logic being that in Rhythm Heaven, you keep and follow a rhythm, to the point where most games can be played by audio alone.
In DJMax, it's more like you're playing alongside the music, instead of with the music.
It's like comparing apples and oranges. They're trying to do different things. Rhythm heaven didn't even give a score on a given attempt at a song until the last one.
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>>320797817
You just point with the mouse/pen and "click" with a pair of keys, usually Z and X.
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>>320797817
Mouse is actually a really shitty control scheme. You have to worry about aiming/stabilizing it which has fucking nothing to do with rhythm.
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>>320797826
Exactly, I always liked Rhythm Heaven never could get into games such as Osu and all that
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>>320797769
That is actually how I started playing the piano until I moved on to sheet music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM2UX19PeJE

This is just so much more intuitive to start with and less intimidating than sheet music. Allows for someone to get into piano easily until they practice enough to be more adept with the more convenient/compact sheet music.

And unlike guitar tabs, it actually trains you to visualize the notes instead of mindlessly memorizing fingerings.
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>>320797762
>waifu cashins
Don't you have any better genre to take your autism on?
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>>320797826
>In DJMax, it's more like you're playing alongside the music, instead of with the music.
That's why DJ Max is one of my favorites, the song is literally being played by you, the note sounds when you press a key are the tune of the song, and it's just quiet if you don't hit them.
With Miku it tries to mimmick this by muting the vocals if you miss a note, but it's not the same.
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>>320795590
>>320795872
Music is music anon. As someone who's been playing violin for 15 years, a simpler song can sound just as lovely as a highly technical one. The same goes for me with rhythm games. Love Lab and Lockstep are some of my favorite levels in rhythm games.

The higher difficulty shit in both actually playing music and playing music themed video games has much of its value placed in being difficult. Which is good because you can't really improve without a challenge.

But the shit that's simple and still enjoyable is valuable because the music is good by its own merits and it doesn't need some "holy shit this is so hard i have to get better" mentality behind it for someone to appreciate it. It's just good without the gimmick.
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>>320798194
Thats extra hilarious considering how autismal your standard waifu memorization shitfests are.
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>>320797958
holy shit you can use Z and X? I've been using left and right click all this time
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>>320798345
>waifu
You just can't handle the note objects' sex appeal, low test
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rhythm heaven fans are the wii sports crowd of rhythm games and should kill themselves

unless they are sane people who realize that while rhythm heaven is fun it has no place being hailed as the savior of rhythm games and is a far more casual and easy light hearted rhythm game than the majority of other, more well made, and better ones
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>>320795590
>too hard
100% Rhythm Heaven and get back to me. All the way up to final the Battle of the Bands mode getting unlocked.

Do it, I fucking dare you.
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>>320798604
>have to wait up for the RNG perfect challenges to show up
fuck you
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Rhythm Heaven's simple inputs are great because it makes you focus on the music, rather than which button to press. I guess other rhythm games are more akin to playing a real instrument?
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>>320798580
Can we toss the Patapon, Parappa, Rhythm Thief and Necrodancer shitters into that bunch as well?
Bunch of obnoxious shits who think what they played were the absolute limits of what the genre has to offer. They'd probably suffocate and die in a real arcade.
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>>320798723
Nice strawman
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>>320798552
Getting used to it takes a lil' while, but once you start doing it this way you will improve really fast. (I'm still pretty bad tho)
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For those of yall who like DJ Max, I highly recommend trying out beatmaniaIIDX / Lunatic Rave 2.

Here's a solid guide set up LR2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gXnexg7qd7RcTDrHEOOTyS4Ioj5ZLsaU1qJacWIqRsU/

There's also a web-based player that's not half-bad, just make sure to set up your timing first: https://bemuse.ninja/
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>>320798818
That's what I've seen on /v/
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>>320798604
I've 100% both rhythm heaven and rhythm heaven fever, and I've gotta say it mostly comes down to practice. The only ones that are mind-breakingly hard is love lizards, remix 4 (because of the fucking lizards) and the second version of the ping pong game.
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>>320798723
They should make more games like Patapon and not this samey garbage.
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>>320798723
>>320798580
christ
>>320797092
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>>320798708
Actually getting the perfect isn't RNG, yo, and they're constant once you clear all the games normally. Nothing but your own willpower holding you back at that point.
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>>320798604
lol are you fucking kidding me lad? the only thing that makes 100%ing Rhythm Heaven a task is that you have to tediously wait for the game to decide to let you have a go at perfecting the minigame.
the games themselves are fucking easy as shit and if it weren't such a chore waiting for the bullshit game to give you a chance everyone who played it would have 100% if they weren't literally dead in the head.

Now, let me tell you to go and perfect every song and mission in DJ Max Black Square, a game that lets you play a song, and if you fucking perfect it, you get the fucking perfect rather than wait for the game to decide to let you perfect it, then you get back to me fuckface.
Do it, I fucking dare you.
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>rhythm heaven fags unironically believing their game is part of the same genre as other rhythm games
lel
it may be fun, but it's a completely different, and far easier, and less consistent game
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>>320798718

this
>>320797576
is a really bad example since it's just extreme hand-eye coordination and muscle memory at that point, the music isn't barely more than audio cues for your input. The player's enjoyment/suffering is similar to a speed runner now.

Otherwise when done right, the movement should be hinting that the notes are changing to a higher or lower pitch.
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The Rhythm Heaven series is very fun, but you can basically only play each game once if you're not retarded. I'm pretty sure I perfected every minigame in both the DS and Wii versions within two days of them releasing.

beatmania IIDX and pop'n music are still fun, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gf5bMqU3Ng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxr1QUVfPRA
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>>320795162
Good work OP. You started a completely unnecessary fight between Rhythm Heaven fans and everyone else. You stupid fucking obnoxious piece of shit with no idea what you're talking about.
Comparing Rhythm Heaven to any other rhythm game is the stupidest fucking thing you can do. They're not even the same fucking genre.
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Where did OP say that Rhythm Heaven was the pinnacle of rhythm games like all the replies are saying? He just said it was creative.
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>>320799229
>>320799515
so what's this other genre called? so we can just call it that and stop getting bitched at by genre elitist faggots who have no tolerance for experimentation of any kind
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>>320799530
hey op
he didn't just say it was creative
he said it was the only creative rhythm game in recent memory for him
rhythm heaven is not a fucking rhythm game anyway, at least not by the definition of rhythm games
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>>320799658
It's a party game :^)
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>>320799658
Rhythm Heaven is a party minigame compilation with a focus on music. It's not a rhythm game.
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>>320799734
lmao >>320799765
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>>320799229
The only thing hard about it is that you're forced to be precise on almost every beat to progress.

I like the simplified gameplay since it ends up as a more focused lesson on rhythm, and it probably helped me a lot more on playing music compared to other games more focused on motor skills.
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>>320799734
>>320799765
>A fucking serious reply calling it a party game
Jesus fucking Christ. It's a fucking rhythm game.
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>Donkey Konga will never come back
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>>320799871
>It's a fucking rhythm game.
lmao
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>>320799667
Then what is it then?
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>>320799765
>Rhythm Heaven is a party minigame compilation with a focus on music.
How is that different from any other rhythm game?
Thats exactly how I would describe the whole genre.
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>>320797250
Man, this is wonderful. Thanks for linking it, I'm having a bunch of fun.
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>>320799910
Wario Ware with a musical skin on it.
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>Rhythm Heaven not a rhythm game
>Smash not a fighting game
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>>320800093
Both correct
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>>320800009
you're trying so hard to avoid the word rhythm it's hilarious
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>>320799765
Is >>320797250 not a rhythm game?
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>>320800140
kill yourself please
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>>320800131
i just think that these people think
"Nintendo? It's not a genre!"
is the wii u a video game console
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why did this turn into a Rhythm Heaven hate thread? I mean jeez guys I expected more but this is /v/ after all...
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>>320800234
It's weird though. Rhythm Heaven has no scoring system, its "levels" are not songs like other rhythm games, they're minigames. It is a game about rhythm, but "Rhythm Game" is an established genre, and has been for a while, and Rhythm Heaven doesn't really fit into that genre. It's great and all, but it's not really by definition a "Rhythm Game", because that's a term that already exists.

Smash is a fighting game though, come on.
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>>320800394
It's not really Rhythm Heaven I hate, it's the fans. They're obnoxious as fuck because their game did something different to other rhythm games, and they think that automatically makes all the other games bad, even though they're not even worth comparing because of just how different they are, to the point that like many have already said, they're pretty much different genres.
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>>320800394
People feel this need of showing everyone how much of a fucking hardcore gamer they are, shitting on simpler and easier games so they can look like badasses in front on everyone.
At the end of the day, they just end up looking like pathetic retards that hate seeing people having fun.
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>>320797250
This guy ever going to update this? I've known about it for awhile and crave for more. I don't know how they'll make another BOSS stage though. That shit was cool.
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>>320800394
genrefaggots will not tolerate hybrid games or games that don't neatly fit into a handful of highly specific frameworks
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>>320800453
>Rhythm Heaven has no scoring system
It kinda does, albeit unspecific. The 3DS game definitely does.
>its "levels" are not songs like other rhythm games, they're minigames
Just think of them as songs with different controls.
>It's a game about rhythm but not a rhythm game
C'mon. Can we just leave it as a "unique and casual rhythm game"?
>Smash is a fighting game
Sakurai called it a "competetive action game" in the last direct.
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>>320800675
OP started as a fan of an easier and simpler game trying to shit on harder games, and it sort of spiralled from there.
It's pointless to argue over this, it's like comparing an RPG to an FPS.
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>>320800453
>game doesn't fit perfectly with the norm but shares enough to be considered in the genre
>nope not an X game lol

Video game genres are stupid.
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Uchiha Madara. I'm not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I'm not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I'm not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu. I'm NOT Talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after Alucard, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu and having eaten Popeye's spinach. I'm talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Legendary Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with his Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, with Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after having absorbed Alucard as well as a God Hand, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit, with Kryptonian DNA implanted in him and having eaten Popeye's spinach while possessing quantum powers like Dr. Manhattan and having mastered Hokuto Shinken.
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>>320800742
I feel like after they released that and got lots of positive feedback they got their rush from it and sort of lost the will the continue. I hope I'm wrong and they're just saving everything for the final release though... There's also another level here though: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34944147/RhythmDoctorWIP/index.html
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Was Rhythm Thief & the Emperor's Treasure a good one?
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>>320800819
>It kinda does, albeit unspecific.
Yeah, but by Rhythm Game standards, it has none. It doesn't tell you anything other than an overall grade, and even that is cut down to "Try Again" "OK" and "Great".
>The 3DS game definitely does.
Still not on the level other rhythm games do. It does the same three grade thing, but now there's a bar showing you how close you were to the next grade. It's still really inconsistent.
>C'mon. Can we just leave it as a "unique and casual rhythm game"?
Yeah, I wasn't really trying to say "IT'S NOT A RHYTHM GAME", my wording was just shit. It's like JRPGs and WRPGs. They share some things, but take vastly different approaches, and aren't worth comparing.
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>>320801038
I had high expectations as a fan of Layton and Rhythm Heaven but I was pretty meh on it. Once it started having motion control games it started turning to shit IMO but the violin levels are very fun
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>>320800894
dumb weebposter
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>>320801038
Terrible music, okay games.
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>>320800453
>Smash is a fighting game though, come on.
And you expect people to take you seriously here.
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>>320800394
Its different so its bad of course.
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>>320801481
nice
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>>320795590
Rhythm Heaven is one of the only Rhythm games that are actually based on Rhythm and not onscreen indicators.
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>>320801628
nigger those onscreen indicators might be like in time with the music or something eh
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>>320800675
>Is this the last rhythm game to anything that wasn't le dancing animu girl?

Faggot OP was a faggot in the first place and most likely you too for playing babby trash.
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>>320795715
I wish there were more of these rhythm games on consoles and pc.
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anyone playing this atm?
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>>320801818
>forced touchscreen
nope
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>>320801882
>forced touchscreen

where dose it force you to use touchscreen?
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>tfw like rhythm heaven
>like anime rhythm games
>like other rhythm games
>don't fight over which is better and just have fun playing them
I just love em all and it feels good.

>>320801818
Yep. Good shit. Not quite as hard as DJ Max got, but I love it.
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>>320801682
Not in Rhythm Heaven. Generally speaking using the visuals in Rhythm Heaven is counter productive and you'll actually do worse looking at the screen then better.

You can't play a song in DDR or Rock Band or DJ Max without using the screen unless you've somehow memorized every single button in that song which once again doesn't have much to do with Rhythm
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>>320797817
As you can see in the vid, they are using a graphics tablet. It's a ton better.
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>>320801818
it's a shit ton of fun. I went from using the buttons to the touch screen and im not going back. Are there any other good rhythm games on vita outside of miku and this?
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>>320801960
I can sightread shit in those games easily, stop pulling the memorization card just because you have the reflexes of a plant.
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>thread derailed into rhythm general
>everyone is really mad so it's not even a good rhythm thread
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>>320801960
To be fair, the inputs in rhythm heaven are also far less complex, and it's less challenging as a result. Granted that doesn't make it not fun, but I just can't play a game that easy for a long amount of time. It's good for the occasional fun though. I've also noticed Nintendo themselves seems to be running out of things to do with it. There is only so much you can do with a game like this before it becomes repetitive. The new 3DS one reuses a tonne of past minigames from the other games (and actually makes them easier for god knows what reason) but most of the new minigames are really lackluster, and feel like reskins of past games.
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>>320801953
>tfw have vita, ps3/4 and shitty laptop

the only rythm game i know is superbeat, miku and ia/vt

do you have any recommendations where i can play some other ones and which one are good? for my platforms?

>>320802072
man i have had so much fun in it, I just figured out aztec song and feels so good mastering it.
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>>320802072
>>320802174
DJMax Technika Tune for both of you.
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>>320802120
chill he's saying you can't play blind without memorization
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>>320797576
wow so k00l clicking simulator so awesome
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>>320801812
Impossible. Each of these games come with their own "controllers" (for those who call these "samey" please kindly go put a cactus up your ass). If these were for consoles and PC, you'd need to buy a controller for each game (technically you can, right now, unofficially, but otherwise you can't trust the average person to do this making it unprofitable).
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>>320802123
lmao this is as good of a rhythm thread as those STG threads where a bunch of underaged shit comes in and say "you can't beat these games without memorization"
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>>320802360
Taiko has its own first party controllers on console.
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>>320802353
Nice strawman.

I can do that too. XCOM 2? Nah Man game is shit, its a look and click sim.
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>>320802120
I think you've missed the point. The point is that I can close my eyes and play a song in Rhythm Heaven just using the sound.

I can't do that in DDR unless I've played the song atleast once because you literally won't know what the first button you have to press is unless you see it on the screen.
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>>320802353
If you looked at his hands he's not even using a mouse you dipshit.
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>>320801960
>You can't play a song in DDR or Rock Band or DJ Max without using the screen
You could if there were only one button to press instead of several.
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>>320802598
You are still pressing the buttons in time with the music. It's rhythm with a visual component. Just because a pianist is reading a sheet while playing doesn't mean they're not playing in a rhythm.
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>>320802598
That's a nice gimmick sure, but it's thanks to just how simple the game is, and it's also really restrictive, and the game suffers because of it.
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>>320802353
You know what is also a clicking and keyboard mashing sim? SC Broodwar
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>>320802690
wow not even a mouse? that must be so hard brah so cool
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>>320802920
Oh? You think you can play at this level? You hardcore gamer you?
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>>320802920
>wow someone put effort into doing well in something they enjoy to accomplish something
>better shitpost
god you can't even put effort into your shitposts
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>>320802746
>>You are still pressing the buttons in time with the music.
You just have to press the button when it aligns with the screen.
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>>320803359
And the notes align with the judge bar in time with the music, no fucking way right?
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>>320803359
You don't think they just scatter the buttons all over the chart do you? They're in time with the music too.
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>>320803359
There are people that play the games visually, but there are ancient modifiers like "hidden" in DDR where the arrows fade out and disappear halfway up the screen, long before they hit the markers at the top of the screen.

I regularly AAA songs this way.
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>>320802229
does it play just like the arcade machine but on a smaller screen?
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>>320803428
>>320803432
Point is that you could play the games with no music at all.
You just need to be able to sight read.
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>>320803037
wow yeah he is certainly on a different level I will never be able to click a mouse as fast as he can to anime music incredible very nice
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>>320803613
It's the same concept. In Rhythm Heaven and in other games you press buttons in time with the music. The difference is in Rhythm Heaven it's just one button (or a stupid flicking gesture), so you can play it without looking at the screen.
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>>320803613
It'd sound terrible and off. And once again, piano example, you can still be deaf and play something with just the sheet.
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>>320803613
Maybe on an easy chart. Not on anything above average difficulty. You'd need the music to get the timing right, just trust me.
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>>320803541
Random video on YouTube as an example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjYAbqqG4wA

Another thing to notice is that the arrow colors describe which part of the beat they sit on (quarter notes, eighths, etc.), which is how it's easily possible to sightread a song that you've never heard or seen before. The visuals enhance the rhythm aspect. They don't replace it.

In the end, there are only so many ways to give an audio cue instead of exploiting other senses, especially one as complex and information-dense as sight. I can perfect all the Rhythm Heaven games incredibly easily, and it loses all of its replayability for me.
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>>320803656
Do we have to go back to this again? He isn't holding a mouse you faggot.

Also, if you're gonna straw-man this hard you might as well throw in every video game with that description. The song isn't even anime either.
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>>320803592
Yes.
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>>320797576
>he's using the keyboard to click and the draw pad thing to move

Oh shit why didnt i think of that, i tried playing on the cintiqs at my school but the clicks dont register fast enough with just the pen.
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>>320803613
Good luck with that. Heck, playing DDR in a noisy arcade is difficult sometimes. You still need the music.
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>>320803749
Actually in the first Rhythm Heaven the D-Pad was also used in some games and in Fever the B button was also utilized not sure about the 3DS one though
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>>320803749
The difference in Rhythm Heaven is that its sound cues.
Thats why you can play it without a screen.
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>>320802746
But the Pianist doesn't need to look at the sheet especially if the song is already playing.
>>320802759
I don't really see how it's restrictive. There's still a variety of songs and many different genres.
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>The only mention of Necrodancer is a shitpost
Ok.
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>>320799882
I have a bad experience with Donkey Konga

I tried to play Donkey Konga 3 on my wii,but i didn't realize that if you tried to save it to your gamecube memory card, it would format everything on it.

All those half finished rpgs,gone. I was in the middle of a killer 7 playthrough too
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>>320804172
>But the Pianist doesn't need to look at the sheet especially if the song is already playing.
Yes, they do if the "song" consists of other instruments. Ever heard of keysounded games? You let go of the keys, half of the song is muted.
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>>320804040
Yeah, I'm aware. The 3DS one uses the D-Pad a couple of times, but only really in the games that are ported from the GBA one. The B button wasn't used at all though as far as I remember.

>>320804056
Other rhythm games, especially DJ Max have sound cues too. You're just pressing buttons far more frequently, and interchanging between more than one.
I'm not trying to fight or anything, I love both, but they both have sound cues.

>>320804172
Of course the music can be varied, but the games themselves aren't. It's especially noticeable in the 3DS one. 75% of the games are just copied from the other games, and the new ones are pretty bad. They're running out of stuff to do with it. There are really only a few types, there are simon says type ones where you wait for a cue and then tap in response, tap with the beat ones, and then ones where you wait for X number of beats to pass before tapping when the beats aren't audible. I can't think of many minigames that don't just fit into one of those three descriptions, they just change the song and visuals between games.
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>>320804172
>But the Pianist doesn't need to look at the sheet especially if the song is already playing.
not if they're playing ode to joy or some shit but come on man you do need to.
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Anything with 2D animation is cool with me.
Rhythm Heaven has nice music, enjoyable gameplay, funny characters and as others have mentioned it is nice that the game encourages just listening to the music and feeling the rhythm.
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>>320804554
The 3DS game is supposed to be a best of celebration of the games because their music man is dying from cancer.
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>>320803885
anime song actually but whatever enjoy your mouse clicking videogame or whatever
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Extreme sports games
Like skateboarding, longboarding, BMX, and rollerblading.
Fuck, it would be nice for a comeback, hell just skate 4 would suffice a little.
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>>320804750
Well that's depressing. It'll probably disappoint you though, they made most returning games easier than they were originally, and the controls for 9 out of 10 of them are just the A button. Heck, Remix 10 in this one is easier than most regular remixes in the Wii one.
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>>320804826
You aren't even making an effort with your shitposting anymore.
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>>320805072
then why are you still responding xD
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>>320805125
Because I enjoy having someone shitpost to make the game look better.
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>>320804252
Hey this happened to me.
The good thing is it was on a memory card I was using to save only import games.
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>>320804930
I mean I've seen some of the new mini games they look alright, there's no reason why I wouldn't have with it though, just hope Nintendo localizes it in 2016
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>>320805535
>just hope Nintendo localizes it in 2016
lol
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>>320805535
Have a fun time with it*
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>>320805593
Well they're gonna do it eventually if not I'll be surprised
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>>320805717
I thought Fever was only localized to piggyback off the success of the original DS one, and then it completely backfired and nobody bought it.
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>>320805768
Fuck, well if that's the case the Best plus is never coming to the US or EU lol
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>>320804847
the only good ones in the last 5 years are flash games
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Remember, folks, want people to hate a game you love? Just put in on a pedestal and shit on everything that isn't like your game. Also eat a lot of dick like OP for dramatic effect.
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>>320806886
You know, I never thought about it but you are right, damn. Learn something new everyday.
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What do you guys think of Starlight Stage?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjf-bKsN8kk
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Does BIT.TRIP RUNNER count as a rhythm game? I liked that one.
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>>320809456
it's as much of a rhythm game as the music levels in rayman legends are
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>>320809498
>motherfucking black betty
I think I'm going to pick this game up now, Thanks for the recommendation. I hope it kicks my ass as hard as bit trip did.
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But RH has an idol
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>>320795162
Wrestling (literally NO GAMES except WWE, possibly the only genre that has been reduced to a single series)
Pinball (nothing left but DLC versions of old irl tables)
Beat Em Up (when was the last time they even made one of these?)
Text Adventure (nothing left but piss poor indie games)
Text RPG (COMPLETELY dead)
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>>320812047
>Beat Em Up (when was the last time they even made one of these?)
Dragon's Crown, Fighters Club, Closers. Probably a good idea to not let indies rape it like platformers

>Text RPG (COMPLETELY dead)
I think this is in the same sense that GUI "kills" command lines
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Deemo is nice
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